In the Arena - Show 52

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's no joke.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
When you choke, togat life back and without breath, they'll
be death. Cigat life back and gad life back, and
live back, life back, and.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Get life back and live. Hey. Welcome to The Man
in the Arena, brought to you by Life Fact, the
show where we dive deep into stories of grit, perseverance,
and the courage to step forward when the world says
you can't. Today, we're honored to have a very special guest,
Eric Sunstead, joining us for a conversation that goes straight
to the heart of possibility and purpose. Together, we'll explore

(00:45):
two powerful chapters from Arthur Lee's inspiring book Sorry Can't
is a Lie. First, we'll tackle chapter one, Can't a
word Arthur believes should be erased from our vocabulary, replaced
with action, creativity, and relentless determination. Then, only then, we'll
reflect on the Serenity Prayer, a timeless reminder about the

(01:06):
wisdom to know what we can change, the piece to
accept what we cannot, and the courage to act when
it matters. Most. So, sit back, listen, and strap in.
Strap in, and prepare.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
For a bumpy ride.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Because the Man in the Arena there's no room for
a can't. My name is Rick Thatcher. Welcome to the
man in the arena, Joined as always Patrick O'Rourke, Pat welcome,
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Who the us here?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Anual claws to the guests, not necessarily myself. It's it's
totally okay.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
And that's called popcorn in the business, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Is that what it's called mattering of a plaus Now,
of course we have to talk about the elephant in
the room, and that is we're missed Arthur Lee.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Again. No, you're doing the work.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
You're doing the work. How's how's it going?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's going good. Down twenty two pounds in five weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
And whose who are these fine folks?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
PhD Weight Lass Center in North Carolina. And Heather is
Mice counselor. She's from Maryland and she's she's a very positive.
Everything I do is positive. But actually I did go
on vacation and didn't gain weight, which is pretty impressive
for me. Home run, yes, home run.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
That was up in Cape Cod.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
My son got engaged and then we went to Lake
George for a couple of days. Nice and it was the.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Canadian wildfires, so it's nice. But it was a cloudy, smoky.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
But smoky, and the most important part, well not the
most important part, but a good result was no weight
game correct neutral Yes, wait, neutral as they call it
in the trade.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So again we miss Arthur Lee. We he's always here
in spirit, especially his book. So I want to say,
before we get too far into the show, that you
should go. We don't always talk about live back, we
talk about people in the arena, but we do want
to point out that folks should go and prepare, protect
your family, protect those you love, and get a copy

(02:59):
of the book. But go to life fact dot com
or life fact dot net. I think you can go
to dot com now and be okay, but use code
m I T A M I T a man in
the arena to get a nice discount on protecting those
you love, get a copy of the book. Sorry, can't
is a lie. And I'm really excited to speak to
our first guest. Yes, Eric Sunstead is a man that

(03:23):
I met as Eric Miller, and we're going to get
more into that. But Eric, are you with us?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I will you you? Yes? Well, gentlemen with the CEO
of course, Rick haven't seen it in a while. How you doing?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's been a while. It's been a while, and it
almost came to fruition a couple of weeks ago. We
won't get into the details of my horrid travel experience,
but got stuck in Boston, not anywhere close to Syracuse,
but we we were gonna convene for a nice golf
outing with the SU alumni crew, and it just it
wasn't meant to be for me. Was did you guys

(03:57):
have a good time?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
I did not go. No, I did. I couldn't go either.
So I heard about your travels and the whole nightmare.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Through and you didn't even you weren't. You hadn't even attempted,
not under solidarity, but you had.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I didn't even bother. I figured, you know what, it's
not having worth it. No, it was actually the first
year I haven't gone in a while.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
But yeah, didn't go, Yeah, I said, you along with
Scott Damon, I have to say, are part part of
the uh, the people that get people out that don't
necessarily think they want to go or have other things
that they could, you know, certainly make an excuse and
they may say can't they can't, I can't make it, yes, right,

(04:36):
could not perfectly?

Speaker 4 (04:37):
It didn't author could not be here tonight because can'ts.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Just can't don't want to use that word can't.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Exactly No, when you use it, you get smacked, especially
if the author's here to smack us. Now, I think
of you, and I think of this chapter because we
like to, you know, number one, find a great guest,
line them up. But then think about what aspects of
the book and your professional career has really defined. Can't
now talk Let's go back to the soccer experience, because

(05:04):
we could certainly rely on the game's due count and
that falls into play. But can't You came from Ohio Wesleyan,
first of all, when I want to give a shout
out to the hometown of Pittsford, Right.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Pittsford, New York.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
You got it, Yeah, pitts gets horns. No, it's up
near Rochester, correct.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Suburb of Rochester, New York, at Pittsford Mendon High Schools
where I went.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, Now, you went to Ohio Wesleyan with their
freshman year, yes, playing ball. Now, how did it come
to fruition that you found yourself in Syracuse as sophomore year?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, you know all I knew, I knew of Alden,
our coach all In Shattock. I wasn't really thinking about
Syracuse at the time. Coming out of high school. I
was recruited by a number number of other schools. Ohio
Wilson kind of put the full proNT full court press
on me a little bit.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I went there that I looked all I needed.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I like it, but it was the school. I realized
the school was too small and the soccer was great.
I mean, we're, you know, one of the top schools
in the country soccer wise. But I started thinking about Syracuse.
My parents went there. I've always loved the school. I
connected with Alden. Ironically, my coach at Ohio Wesley and
j Martin, who was one of the all time best

(06:21):
coaches throughout the country. He was I think roommates with
Alden at Springfield College. Each other. One thing led to another.
I wanted to transfer and made it work, and I'm
glad I did.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Was that I mean, because back then, let's school, let's
not date ourselves too much. But it was Uh, it
wasn't even email, it was phone calls and letters.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Was it a year off two like.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Some people, Well that's a good question. Ironically, it's it's
interesting because it was going from Division three to Division one.
When you go to Division one division three back in
the day, you had to sit out a year. Three
to one, you didn't. So I went there and actually
had to get this release letter from the school. It
actually took longer than we thought it would be. I

(07:05):
don't know if you remember, Rick, but I missed like
the first two games because I wasn't officially cleared. So
my first game back, my first game for Syracuse was
the Yukon game, and we beat him in the Dome.
Oh boy or that that was great because they were
you know, they had been won the national championship a
couple of years before, and you know, we were on
the underdog whatever. So that was my first game in
a Syracuse uniform. And so I had to miss a

(07:26):
couple of games in the beginning, but it wasn't a
big deal.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah. So it's interesting when you talk about we spoke
earlier about Alden Shaddock coach. Would they cut, you know,
being roommates, would they cut from the same cloth? Were
they similar coaches?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
They were complete opposites? Well, I really thought that they were.
It was interesting because Alden was kind of reserved, really
knew the game. Jay knew the game really well too.
But Jay was one of those guys that was always
joking around and just very outgoing. Alden was just a
little bit more reserved. But once you got to know Alden,
as we all know, Alden was such a great guy
and he knew knew soccer like no one else.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, so right after your I mean it was one
year when we went. That was a very successful year
where you went to the first round of the n
C Double A's and then not long thereafter we lost
to Hartwick, but we were trust So this was eighty five.
I was a junior, You were a sophomore. That was
your first year there where Alden came in and announced

(08:22):
to us a complete shock that he was going to
your school, Maryland the Terps.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeap went to the Terps. And it was a shock.
So disappointed, you know, I was like, oh my god,
you kidding me. I'm settling in here. This is going
to be great. Loved all of them. Is my favorite
coach of all time, and uh, you know, he was disappointed.
He was a shock.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
As you remember, more son, Yeah, I mean indoor all winter,
there were certain there were certain meetings where you just
kind of go and get blindsided, and that was definitely
one of them where he's leaving and you know, for
me junior, you sophomore and you just transferred in.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
So it was one full year and probably the most
most successful season, and then all of a sudden, we're
starting again. So talk about the difference in coaching styles
or maybe the quick departure from Alden's style to Tim
and how that affected you, because we're going to get
to in a second your coaching career.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean, basically in my college career, I had
three different coaches. You know, that doesn't happen very often,
except in that nowadays when guys are transferring grad students
in the whole, you know, a college atmosphere is completely
different now, but.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Back then, it was rare.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
For three different coaches in my career, so it was
definitely a challenge. You know, Tim was one of those
guys who wanted to come in and make a name
for himself right away. What he didn't realize is that
we had such a core, unbelievable group. We had one
senior that was graduating. I mean, we were definitely one
of the better teams in the country. I mean, we
were top twenty the whole year, both those years off

(10:00):
and on. And I think it put it this way.
I'm not saying it was easy for him. It was
difficult to coming in there with only you know, having
no recruits. You know, maybe maybe a couple of recruits
that he brought in at the last minute, but he
basically inherited a full squad that was one of the
best in the country. So that's difficult. The styles different,

(10:22):
you know.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Definitely different styles, definitely different styles. Make a name for himself.
I point to the example of our friend, a guy
on the team, Kevin Ward Smith, who couldn't have been
less of a discipline problem but got in quickly got
into trouble as I did, and and other seniors. Was
just it was just looking back, Tim Hagintson, God Rest,

(10:46):
you know, May rest in peace, really was just trying to,
you know, shake things up and put his stamp on
the team.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
He was and and I think, you know, in my opinion,
I think that was a mistake because what you do
is you inherit a good team. You work with that
the chemistry is there. You don't want to disrupt that.
Maybe you have your input maybe you put your stamp
on a few things, but to disrupt it. As much
as I think it was disrupted, I didn't agree with it.
Having said that, we got through it and we did well,

(11:15):
you know, and and you know again it wasn't easy
for him, but we had a core chemistry that made
it work. And you know, a few guys here and
there weren't happy, but we made it work. I think
we could have had a better record and done it
actually better than we did, even though we won the
biggest championship. I think we could have gone further. But ironically,
if you remember, they stopped the automatic bids if you

(11:37):
went to a conference championship that one year. So we
did give an automatic bid, which is ridiculous, and they
changed it back.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Which is it too late to file an appeal on that.
Let's go on back on.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
But that was so frustrating because you cut you cunn fans.
Remember you guys were going to the tournament. You're not
like what that doesn't make sense. We just beat you,
you know. So anyways, that's water on the bridge.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
But so I bring up, you know, bring up the
chapter of the book Sorry Cancer Is Alive by Arthur
Lee and can't. And I realized that shortly after you
got into your adult life. You didn't you like people
would have told you, not only from the broadcasting, which
we'll get to, but from coaching. You can't just jump
into Babson College and become a coach. How did you

(12:23):
pull that off?

Speaker 7 (12:25):
So?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, I mean briefly. You know, I think I told
you I blew out my knee playing in eight and
I knew I had, you know, nine months to recover.
I still wanted to keep playing, but I knew I
couldn't play right away. So I reached out to the
head coach there who's been there forever, John Anderson. He's
a legend, he's you know, he's he's still there now.
I reached out to him. It took a while to

(12:47):
connect with him, and maybe the winter of nine.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Wait wait wait Eric, So yeah, eight in two thousand
and nine, I'm sorry, two thousand and eight and two
thousand and nine, correct, yes, hold year.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
At this point, I was in my forties, my early forties.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you are a yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, I'm a what lover? Oh?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I know, I know, blowing your knees out in intramural games?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, Pat just so you know where Pat is learning
to a pre and he's coming a long way since
high school because we went to high school together. Yeah, football, lacrosse,
wrestling certainly wasn't always the easiest of times with like
this wouldn't have happened as much even though we were
lifelong friends.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
I actually bought season tickets to a soccer tea team
this year. Amazing. Anyway, keep going, okay, so you're.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Murder you yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean I was.
I was playing in an over forty league, and you know,
you can't get out of your blood. You want to
keep playing. You know, I was like, still fit, I
can still try to play, and I blew out my knee.
But anyways, I never had knee problems. But you know
age will do that to you. So long story short.
You know, I connected with coach Anderson and he said, yeah,
you know, I could use a volunteer as system. I'm like,

(13:56):
all right, great. So he's like, he's like, well, would
you be open to being the goalie coach, And I'm like,
I was never a goalie. I I don't know if
I could do that. I don't know if that's going
to help you. But then I started thinking about it.
I'm like, you know what, I've been a forward my
whole life. I've always wanted to score goals. Maybe that's
a different perspective from a goalie, you know, looking at
it from that perspective, I'm gonna I'm gonna show you how.

(14:17):
I'm going to come in and try to beat you.
Maybe that'll help the goalie. So anyways, I inherited a
really good goalie. He was a sophomore at the time started.
I think he started his freshman year as well, even
though I wasn't there that year. But sophomore year on,
we had a great rapport. His name's Pete Crowley, great kid,
big kid. You know. He got to have a big, tall,

(14:37):
strong goalie, and that's what he was. And we went
to the first year, we won our conference championship. Next
year I think we did, and then we went to
the Sweet sixteen the last his last two years, and
he became an All American his senior year. And it
was definitely because of him, not because of me. But
we had such a good rapport and a good relationship.
I think it really helped him and I was willing

(14:58):
to work with him. With him, however, you wanted to
and give him some ideas from a different perspective as
a forward. And you know, I learned the goalie the
goalie tricks and that the drills and all that stuff
that you did many years for many years, and you know,
it's it's a learning experience. But we we kind of
grew together and it really worked.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna be back with more of
Eric Sunstead after this break, be right back with us
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Speaker 4 (16:23):
Erkin did a one of the brothers back to Young Eric.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Frank was sticking with us through the commercial break before
we went out, you were talking about seventeen The question
I have for you seventeen years coaching at Babson. Started
out as a volunteer. At some point, please tell me
they started to pay you.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, after a couple of years, I said, coach, listen,
can you just throw me a bone a little bit?

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
He worked it out. Yeah, and so I did get paid.
It was part time gig. You know, it's a seasonal thing,
but I came back, you know, and got paid for
most of the time. And the great thing about Babson
my daughter just graduated from there, so I'm you know,
I'm a big fan of the school. But it's you know,
it's unique in that the especially the soccer alums and

(17:06):
you and I can relate to this is their outstanding
and these guys are you know, entrepreneurs. This is one
of the this is the top business school in the country.
So these guys are starting their own companies, you know.
I mean, there's so many good connections with the alums
and so like my daughter's looking for a job now
she's getting hooked up with my former players, former coaches,

(17:27):
stuff like that. So it's such a great connection and
I think that's really valuable, especially for a small school.
But it's it's a great business school. So the alums
have been very helpful.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's great because Babson it seems to be the community.
Like I remember other schools in the Northeast. Certainly Syracuse
had a name, but I'm thinking of that. What's that
school in Rhode Island that is like Williams, No, not Williams.
Uh Bryant out of it was a college that it's university,
but it really seemed to like, you know, create its

(17:59):
own high point is another one that had kind of
come on and created an identity.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yes, Brian, you mentioned Brian. That's a great business school too,
and my son went to Bentley. So Bentley, Bryant and
Babson are all fantastic business schools, the three bees in
this New England area. And you know, they're all really
good business schools and the great entrepreneurs come out of
the schools all the time. I mean the Bamba Sock guys.
Those guys are Babs and kids from however many years.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Ago, Brian Bradley and Babson. That's a that's fun to.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Say, Brian Bentley and Babson got three.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, So we'll come back to soccer coaching. But I
want to also talk about you know, you go to
Syracuse University School of Business.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Correct, No, I was actually an arts and scientist. So
I was a.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Psychology sciences psychology, which is great, which is perfect for
dealing with me. But you didn't go to the broadcasting
school so New House. So if you ask people that
went to Syracuse, especially that weren't playing a sport, and
you told them, you know what, one day, I'm going
to broadcast for the ACC and the and the I
guess the Big East n C Double A games and

(19:10):
all over the Northeast. You were involved with may team's.
People again would say you can't do that, Eric, How
did the broadcasting start?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, you know I did. I took a few classes
at New House. Obviously wasn't in the school, but you
know I got a I got a real taste of it,
and you were in it, so you knew more than
anyone how great a school it was, and you get
a flavor of that I always it was always interested
in broadcasting. And then when I came to Boston, I
had been, you know, training with a few teams and
I got in. I was in contact with a USL

(19:40):
team called the Boston Bulldogs, and I was doing some
stuff for them, and you know, I started announcing with them,
and I connected with the Revolution because they were sort
of like the farm team for the Revs. Not officially,
but you know, they move guys up and down all
the time. We we you know, we we played with
them with the Revs and stuff. So just connected with
them and I said, you know, if you ever need
a filling guy, here's my my resume tape and let

(20:05):
me know what you think. And sure enough they called,
and for three or four years, I was the filling
guy for TV and radio, probably you know, four or
five games a year, which that says a lot, but
you know it was it was blast. You know, I
was doing games and what's now Gillette Stadium before I
did the Foxboro Stadium before that before they tore it down,
and then Gillette. You know, I traveled a couple of

(20:25):
times in New York and Kansas City, so you know,
it's really about the resume tape, and you know, if
you have a good education, a good degree, that's gonna
take you, take you places. And if you if you're
okay on air, good enough, so I'm gonna give you
a shot, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
So I'm watching his reels in the last couple of
days and really amazing that there wasn't formal.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
Game.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Obviously didn't go to Connecticut School of Broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
No, no, And I wouldn't I thank you, thank you
for that, Ricky, I wouldn't say that. I mean, there's
always learning going on. I mean there are times that
I'm still doing games for BC and I'm like, what
did I just say? Oh my god, it was, you know,
like just set. What I'm learning is you got to
like talk less sometimes, as you know, some of the
great announcers just let the game speak for itself.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
J P.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Della camera doesn't know that.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I know a lot of American guys, don't you know.
And you watch the you know, the Premier League, and
some of the guys they just sit back and let
the game do the talking. And that's what you have
to do. Sometimes it's hard not to talk about certain
players and what's going on, what you see on the
field because you get really excited about it. We have
to step back a little and kind of chill out,
you know.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
But that's especially in the role of color or or
play by play right to both really need to let
the game right breathe and something we don't always see.
But again, watching the reel is very impressed with your
passion your knowledge of the game, which you know no
one can no one can doubt. But it's not an
easy thing because we've seen former players, former coaches stumble

(21:56):
in that role. I think a two hours.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, no, and I do. Yeah, don't believe me. I
I stumble all the time. And you know it is
it's a learning thing. The more games you do, the
better you get and the more comfortable you get a
lot of a lot of things too. Is the big
thing is is you're play by play guy. I mean,
I've had some really good guys that are just total pros,
you know, so you know that that always helps too.

(22:23):
You know that you got a good partner and they
they kind of lead the way and let you let
you go with what you got.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
So coming up with the World Cup coming up, is
there any avenue for you to participate in that arena?

Speaker 1 (22:39):
I don't know. I you know, it's kind of I'm
kind of behind the eight ball right now. I haven't
really reached out and done a lot of that. I've
been real busy with a lot of other stuff with
work and family stuff. But it's not out of question,
you know. I I would love to be like a
sideline reporter for for games or you know. I did
the Women's World Cup and to let many many years ago,

(23:00):
just sideline stuff, you know, and I've always been kind
of involved with that. But I I've kind of been
removed from the revs for the last few years because
they're broadcasting changed a bit. Bratt Brad Felman, I know
pretty well, but you know, so things have changed. I
don't know. I'm totally open to it. I want to
do as much as I can and stay in the game.
But I'll be doing a lot of Boston college games.
Is this fall doing some ACC games?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
So is the World Cup? Is it all over the
country again or is it mostly West Coast three.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
US and Mexico.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, But like I remember thirty thirty years ago, probably
ninety four, I think, yeah, ninety four, a lot of
East Coast games.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
The medal lands are gonna happen there again.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
The finals, I think the finals in the Meadlands.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah right, well wow, okay, Broxborough have.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Some yep, it'll it'll be all over. You have the
big cities and ironically this is just a kind of
a footno and baps. And we've always hosted like international
teams because we have a great campus. It's away from
the city so the people, you know, the guys can't
go out whatever. We've we hosted juvent Us a few
years ago. They trained with us for two weeks while
they track different parts of the country to play exhibitions

(24:02):
and stuff. So in ninety four they had Babston hosted Argentina.
There's some good stories about Uhrimana and stuff. So I
wasn't there then, but some good stories because we have
a hotel on campus, which really helps.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
The Boston Marathon, does that run by Babson not far?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, it's it's about a mile away.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I remember that a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
You did it.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
I did a half marathon. We stopped in Wellesley, which
is half way. My brother had a house there.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, Babson's in Wellesley. Yeah, and I'm in Natick, which
is the next town over.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, yeah, And what do you do full time?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Eric?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
We do it. We we know all these other extracurricular things.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Do you do?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
What do you do full time?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
So?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I worked for a federal housing program. I mean, I'm
a director for a federal housing program.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
So is that all across the country.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
God, it was regional.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, we we subsidized vouchers cross national that the federal vouchers.
So I'm I'm the director of the federal program. And
but we're obviously based in Massachusetts, so we have a
state program as well. But most of our you know,
most of the people that we work with are in Massachusetts,
but they can they can move anywhere in the United States.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I was just thinking of our weekend audience, which is
in you know, California, Texas, Orlando, uh, keep dropping down
Allentown dropping those names, and then of course New York.
But I always, you know, sometimes forget when we're talking
about all this extra stuff that you do. I mean,
you do not.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Job a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Well, I know, it's it's believe me, it's it's a grind.
It's been in the fall seasons of grind. That's why
I had to really hang it up this year. It's
really it's going to be really tough, but well for
now anyways.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah, you'll get the bug again in a couple of
I know, I.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Always go back. So another thing that we talked about
earlier when catching up was Team One Impact Teamimpact dot Org. Yeah,
and you know, as you mentioned it and I started
doing a little research. What an amazing organization. Uh fine
for me to make a wish, but different more so
a long standing relationship, you know, with with someone rather

(26:16):
than like an event like you know, I want to
go to Disney World. How did you get involved with
Team Impact.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, I mean it's really through through BAPS and they
they they reach out to colleges throughout the country and
they really try to place, you know, kids with disabilities
with a college team and that's what they did with
with BAPS. And we've had a team in back player
with us for maybe twelve years something like that. Will

(26:46):
mccues his name, great kid. He's I think he's about
thirteen or fourteen years old now, So he started with
us when he's really young and he's been a part
of the team, like you cannot believe. The guys just
embrace him. He embraces the team is. His family is
an unbelievable family. They're so nice. We've really gotten to
know them well, and I can't tell you how much

(27:07):
of a difference it makes in a kid's life and
the family's life really too. That's their only kid, you know,
and he has a disability, but you know, you wouldn't know.
He's just he's the greatest kid. And all the schools
in the New England area are really they're embracing this,
this team impact program. It's it's it's unbelievable, it's it's
it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
You mentioned the Crafts involved.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, I think I think a couple of the Crafts
are on the Board of Directors. I don't know how involved.
I don't know if they helped create it or not.
I only know this through I know a guy that
used to be on the board or maybe still on
the board of directors. He had mentioned he was good
friends with the Crafts from their younger days. And I
know that they're involved somehow, but I need to dig
in a little deeper to find out how. I don't

(27:48):
know if they were part of the creation of it,
maybe one of their colleagues was. But I know they're
on the board at least one of the Jonathan craft
might be one of the crafts is so they embraced
it as well. Obviously.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
So the other thing, the other aspect of the book
that we wanted to, you know, talk about, we don't
have to, you know, delve totally into your private life.
But the serenity prayer or or the guidance that you
come as you as you become a you know, a
grown adult, whether it was from college or or after.

(28:22):
How much does you know faith and the serenity prayer
in particular pay play a part in in uh Eric's.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Life, you know. And it's you know, I think I
touched on it briefly with you before, is it. You know,
the older you get, the more the more faith you have,
and I think a lot of things change and you
look at life a little bit differently. And you know
it you tie in sports and what you've learned as
an athlete growing up and how powerful that can be

(28:50):
and how strong that can make you when you when
you face diversity. I mean we all face stress all
the time. I mean it's like at an all time
high across this country with anxiety and the politics and
just reading the news. Sometimes you just don't want to
read the news because it's like, what the heck's going
on here?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
So I think faith ties in with that, and and
the older you get, the more faith you have, and
the more you want to dive into, you know, whether
it's religion or just a spirituality or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I think I'm totally on board with that now, and
I'm just kind of navigating it now. But again, I
think it's it comes with age, and it comes with
all the challenges you have in life. And I've been
so crazy busy for a number of years. And now
that my kids are, you know, they're adults now, you know,
now it's another phase, another challenge for them and for
all of us. So faith is huge, and I'm trying

(29:38):
to learn about it even more. You know.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure if you were exposed to as
I was. The Athletes in Action back in college was
like Bible Study for athletes. It was a great organization,
a lot like you know, Team Impact dot Org Athletes
in Action. They had a guy, Walt Day, who was
on campus, and I found great comfort, especially dealing with
what we were talking about earlier with a new coach

(30:02):
and some I guess trials and tribulations of dealing with
a new coach, strong personality, maybe throwing people off the
team for periods of time. And it was it was
an incredible source of comfort and strength that that I
got from mister Walda in the shout out to wherever well,

(30:22):
I think he's in the New England area. So if
you ever let's past. Yeah, wal Da was a great guy.
And Klog Greg KALOGI should drop more names and I
would would go we were roommates, but we would go
to uh this Bible study. Most of the more prominent
athletes at Syracuse time, Tim Green, Howard, Trish Gosh, Don

(30:44):
McPherson of course the quarterback from West Hampstead here on
Long Island. But uh, great organization and uh you know faith,
uh faith based you know ministries and and support groups.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Nothing but help.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, And I really, I I really wish I had
become more of a part of that back then because
I you know, I wasn't it was never really a
religious person. But you know, looking back on it now,
that really would have been really helpful on all the
stuff he had to deal with as a college kid
in general and athletics. I mean, we were, we were
going all the time, full force, year round because of

(31:19):
of what we you know, what we're committed to, and
you know, managing that with academics isn't always easy for
a lot of kids, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
So no doubt.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
So coming up in September, what do we got We're
going to see each other in person?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
We got yeah, September twelfth, You got it, man, I
guess they're they're gonna, I guess honor our team from
eighty five again. And they did that fifteen years ago.
So that'll be good to see all you guys again
in person.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Unbelievable for Yeah, that'sy and Eric, it's funny. We talked
about what was it fifteen years ago? Yeah, And then
coach Shed was interviewed on the news or it was
before the game, but he said, oh, I see these
guys out there, and they showed a video of us
standing out in the field and said they're not young
men anymore. And that was I know we're out there.

(32:07):
You know we're out there like you know, Wavnes.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
You should walk out without your pants on or like
a wheelchair.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Well, the worst I was telling. The worst was one
of the one of the players at the time from
that from twenty ten was like, oh yeah, and the
old alums are out there now, you know, so what
are they going to say this time? Really, all the
alums are out there now.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
It's walkers, no walkers allowed, no wheelchair.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Now they just winsker to each other and say, oh
good job. Yeah I could make it to the mid field.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Money was the lever the you off. The rules were different,
that's for sure. But Eric, we uh appreciate you so much,
you know, coming on, thanks for having me. Yeah yeah,
And what's up next? In the terms of broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So, I think my first game is uh September nineteenth,
b C NC State. I think I'm doing that game.
I think I'm doing the Duke game. I gotta look
at this schedule. ACC yup, it'll be ACC Networks. Sometimes
it's on ESPN, uh you. Sometimes it's just on ESPN
Plus or ESPN two. What's the ACC network?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, so unbelievable. So the game that we are going
to like be honored at is Stanford Stanford Yep.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
That's s U Stanford gad yep. That's probably on TV two. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
With all your coaching experience, what will would your advice
be to a senior in high school. What what college
should they what should they look for in a program
and a coach?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Good question. Good question. It's funny because it all depends
on the school too, because you know, like Babson, because
the school's really good and we've had success. I mean,
we finished fifth in the country last year, you know whatever,
we did really well, have only had one loss. Kids
are coming to us, so it's it's almost like you
have to weed them out. And the first question is

(33:52):
how are you academically because Babson is really hard to
get into now, so we don't we can't really spend
a ton of time with guys just aren't going to
get in, and then it's a matter of figuring out
who who's going to fit in, you know. But to
answer your question, you know, kids are sending videos all
the time. I mean, my emails are just swamped, and
it's like you got to get why weed through them.
But you got to have a connection with a coach somehow,

(34:14):
and maybe that that may be at a showcase camp
or something. The key is to reach out and at
least get your name out there to let them know
you're interested. But you have to be you have to
be genuine about it because there are kids that just
send this out to every school on the planet, and
you got to want to know that the kid wants
to come to BAPST. He's got to want business, he's

(34:34):
got to be a good student, he's got to be
a good player. Because you can go to many other
schools with a lot of different options. But if they want,
if they want those three things, BABIST is the place
to go. And you know they have to fit the bill,
if you will. But it's tough for a lot of kids.
You know, they're just sending out these resumes and these
these reels of the of their playing, and you know,

(34:55):
it's kind of craps you sometimes unless you really stand
out at a showcase, it's hard to be seen. You know.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
It's amazing too.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Like, uh, when I when we were kids, there was
a kid on my lacrosse team and his dad would
send films to coaches and coaches like what is this
We send scouts out to watch them, you know, And
he was so ahead of his time, but we were
all like sort of laughing at him. Well, yeah, like
why he send he's sending films to coaches now that's
all they Back then then, you guy would come watch
a game and or come watch someone else you play,

(35:23):
you know, on your team, and you had a good game.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
And it was high yeah high school. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, that's funny too, because we go to watch some kid.
We'll go to watch a kid and we see another
kid and he's even better. Like, oh, let's go after
that kid, you know. So yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, that's
that's why it's working right now.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's how I got to college.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
I played some lacrosse because a guy on my team
was like the number one recruited player in the country,
Dy Marino, and all the scouts came to watch him.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Three times I had good games and guys like what's
your name?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know, yeah, yeah, we'll take you absolutely. That's part
of being on a good team too. You play with
great players. It makes you better. You know, we all
know that.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, Eric, we appreciate you being in the arena. How
did it feel?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh, it was awesome. This this is a great show.
I love listening to Joe Joe Piscopal the other night.
That was really funny. He sounds like a really good guy.
That was awesome.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
You're following Joe. You're following Joe and we appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah, let's get him, Joe.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Let's get up. Let's get on the same show together,
Me and Joe. We'll chat it up.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Oh all right, Eric, I love you man.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Thanks guys, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Right again, Thank Eric Sunset for being here. Pad Urck.
Rick Thatcher will be back with Ray preby mister three thousand.

Speaker 9 (36:38):
After this message, she started to choke on a piece
of candy.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
She wasn't breathing.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Then Ray reached for the life back and it saved her.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Go have easily died that day. A life back saved
her life.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
What I would say is, don't need a life back
and not have it. Have a life back and hopefully
never need it.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
Recently, the American Red Cross has added anti.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Joking devices as an option when standard protocol fails or
is not feasible.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Go to life back dot Net or called eight seven
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Speaker 3 (37:26):
Hey, welcome back to the man in the arena. My
name is Rick Thatcher. It has been we'll remain throughout
the show.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
My name used to be Rick Thatcher. Now it's Paddlerock.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Thank god you changed it for God six too much confusion,
it would be, and we miss as always, we miss
Arthur Lee's uh.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
He cannot be here tonight. NOAs can't. It's not a word, right.
Maybe he just doesn't like the contraction. He doesn't like apostrophes.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I don't think. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I don't even want to joke about it, because he'll
come in here and he'll give me a good.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Time Barrissel exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
We'll be a life back posterior. You know, it's this
time of the show where we we rely on mister
three thousand, we get mister ray preb getting close to
five thousand, mister ray preby.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
Good evening, like backers everywhere. How's everyone doing thing?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
You're looking dapper for the summertime? Look good?

Speaker 7 (38:22):
Yeah, I'm in the A C.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
That's why.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Okay, yeah, Florida, it doesn't get cool the summer year.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
We got an ac yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
And and did you notice the green screen is back invisible?

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Did notice the green screen?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yep? Nice? How are you?

Speaker 7 (38:38):
Oh? Oh, who's that?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
For those that can't see, it's Princess Maya PREVI.

Speaker 10 (38:46):
Princess Maya, Princess number three thousand. Let me explain why
she's number three thousand. So on October twentieth, twenty twenty four,
that was two hundred and ninety eight days ago. As
a matter of fact, I saved Maya using a fact.
Since then, there's been one thousand, five hundred and twelve
staves in two hundred and ninety eight days.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
I mean, folks, if you don't have a life back
by now, you should get.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
One sham of go to life dot com. What's what
was Maya saying, I love you? The amount of time
that we were able to have yng maaya on. It's
about a thirty second rule rules, yeah, labor.

Speaker 7 (39:29):
Yep, exactly exactly. So we got some pretty good numbers tonight, Bobby,
do you have a screen for me?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Here comes the screen.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Wow, twenty seven hundred fifty field set.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Fives.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I think that's up to eighteen now, isn't it five eighteen?

Speaker 7 (39:55):
It's pretty fantastic right there, And if you really think
about it again, in two hundred and ninety eight days,
one thousand, five hundred and twelve saves, I mean, it's
just absolutely amazing right there. There will come a time
when we hit five thousand saves in one year.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I just know, it five thousand a year, an a year,
an a year, I hope so I already that is true? Ray,
we could you know, And that's Arthur's dream is to
have the five thousand people that die every year of
accenttle choking eliminated.

Speaker 7 (40:29):
It will change statistics, it absolutely will. I I whole
hardly know that this device will change the statistics that
are out every single year.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
A lot more people need to get protected, isn't that right?

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Absolutely? Absolutely? And speaking of protected people, let's go to
the highlight of the week. Yes, because it's going to
give you some goosebumps. It's a good one. The story
comes from the mom My son was choking in the
life back dislodged the food before ems could arrive. He
would eating some goldfish crackers and a clump became lodged

(41:03):
in his airway. He was lying on the floor, and
my hunt's been noticed that he may have been ready
for a nap, but then noticed something was off. When
he approached, he saw that he was salivating and not responding.
My husband immediately did backlows in the baby Heimlich maneuver

(41:25):
without success. He remembered the device that was in the kitchen.
By this point he was the baby was unconscious and
losing color. He was able to get the device position
it correctly and heard a loud pop. At that point,
my son took a huge breath. At this point, nine

(41:47):
to one one had already been called and they arrived
within three to four minutes. We are one hundred percent
certain that the life back saved his life. I simply
cannot express our gratitude. Thank you so much to everyone,
and everyone should get this device one years old.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
That's the life Save report where people you know use
the level, say God forbid, you have to use it. Yep,
definitely report it. And this is unsolicited testimony.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
And again, as a parent, when you use this device,
I mean, and I can speak from experience, it works.
And again, the last thing you want to do is
be in a position where your child, loved one parent,
stranger is choking around you and you and there's no help.

(42:43):
This device will provide that help.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Wow. Can you imagine, even like a one year old,
you're like, oh, he's just sleeping. You walk away?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, is that the color? I didn't here? Was it
the color change or color was changing?

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (43:01):
And at that point he was unconscious, so you know
you know it was pretty far along yep.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And what part of the country was that? Again, did
not give a location. I'd say that's hip of protected,
I know him protection.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
So we did not get a location on that one.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Now, Ray, you have a catchphrase that's sweeping the country.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
I do I think I do, Yes, Yes, I remember
it now like that. Better to have it and not
need it than need it and not have it. The
life you say could be your own, or your child
or your parents, could be a stranger who knows. Save
a life. Thanks folks, you guys.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Amazing always great. Ray, good stuff, mister three K.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
We'll see you next week, see you next week.

Speaker 7 (43:50):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
You know we're gonna soon announce the contest pat that
where five thousand lives. It's going to be a big celebration.
People at the home off or or feverishly working on
a contest and the rules and laying it out how
you know the most fair way. I think there's gonna
be certain criteria more more so than pick the date,

(44:12):
because you can do the math and narrow it down
to about a week. But more people are gonna pick,
Like if people picked the certain same day, say November ninth,
like that's the that's the day.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Mathematically, can I can I choke myself three times that
day to get three saves?

Speaker 3 (44:28):
No, that's gonna be I'm afraid that's going to be
in the rules. Pat okay, no self affixiation. You can't
guess and then win yourself, especially if the safe is
against yourself. But what number, like you have a date
in mind or a ballparking mind, because you're always out.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
I'm thinking Thanksgiving ish when we have four hundred five
hundred left?

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Right, But it's weird.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
So this it was going like sixty seventy a week,
and I think the last couple it's still keeping that pace.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Keeping that place. I think what happens a lot is
you see the dates and you see the date of
the occurrence, not always like day up. So a lot
of them come in after the fact or around holidays.
It's you know, there's a lull, but I think what
we need to do. And next week we're gonna talk
more about the show. Next week we have road Show

(45:22):
Ryan going to be in studio. Road Show Ryan is
in Chantilly, Virginia. Shantilly, Virginia. I don't even know there
was a Chantilly, Virginia, out there. But this gentleman road
show Ryan is do you think that's where Schantilly lace
comes from?

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Who knows?

Speaker 3 (45:36):
We're going to find out next to that. But I
bring him up because he's doing amazing work for Life
back out on the road in costcos all across the country.
He's been in Texas, He's been definitely covered New York
and Connecticut and upstate New York, Texas. Now he's in Virginia.
But he routinely comes across people that come up to

(45:56):
him and tell them that they use the Life Act.
Did you report it?

Speaker 4 (45:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You know you always say that's got to be probably
double yeah, I would think so.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
So we may even you know, if people would wake
up and report the live save, we may already be
at five thousand, so it could happen any day. But
we're going to be back to close out the man
in the arena after this message.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
H I'm work the league.

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(47:20):
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If someone you love owns this, make sure that make music.
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(48:01):
I ALP you buy a life back if email stud
and I know how I made sharing last forever. But
if you do go with this, please be careful and
love life.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Hey, what a great message from Arthur Lee. Now I
don't know as this show is broadcast throughout the country,
especially on the weekend, because we're live on Facebook and YouTube. Now,
God bless everyone for like and Sharon uh and we
get to your comments. We may not get to them today,

(48:33):
but we will get to them eventually. So we appreciate
you so much for calling. But we don't know the
date of the airing or the commercial messages that are shown.
But we've just listened to a very critical message from
Arthur Lee's CEO in Venor Life Fact concerning.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
The the danger of the knoof.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Knockoffs and counterfeits that you know when people go online. Please,
for God's sake, go to lifeback dot net use code
m I t A. Get the original if you're going
to go through the trouble of protecting not the trouble
going through the steps and protecting your family. Yeah, get

(49:11):
the original, Get the unique.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Would you get your eyes done by a doctor who
had it on sale?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I don't think I would. No, thanks, of course, No.
Go to life, get the real thing. Don't mess around,
because you can, on average get a real life BacT
on Amazon. But why take the chance because there's a
certain percent I don't know exactly what it is, but
if you go on there, you will see counterfeits, you
will see knockoffs. You will see on Facebook, color scheme,

(49:38):
same patterns. Everything's ripped off, including Arthur's likeness, his story,
mostly daughter's likeness. Yeah, it does mostly on average. Come
from overseas a long, long way away. But you get
the original and use code MI I T A so
life act dot Net, use codem I t A. You
can get a copy of while you're there, get a

(49:59):
copy of Arthur's book, and there's the coupon fifteen percent off.
Use code m I T.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
A Man in the arena.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Meta meta so pat. It's been a great show. We've
talked to Eric Sunstead, who it's always great.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Interesting guy, the Babson coach head coach for years, Jeff recently.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Seven seventeen years at BABS and fell into not I
wouldn't say fell into it, but just reached out. No
one's you know.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
A co ed school. That's a great question, I think
because when we were kids. I think it was just
a girls school.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Could be, could be, wasn't even on my uh you know, purview.
And we talked about the amount of schools that through
the advent of the Internet and how recruiting has changed.
Some of these schools I had never heard of are now,
you know, prominent, prominent programs because they embraced the media

(50:53):
and they and they embraced the the way, and they
marketed themselves and marketed their programs in a way that
made them a household name. Like we talked to before
about Brian College and the.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Sports grow your school. It will makes academics better too.
If you have good sports.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Good sports, and then no one knows that better than
you because the terps you are there. During some pretty
prolific time.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Maryland football was real good in basketball too with lent
Bias Lent Bias.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
And Hungry herman Ville and then Boomersias and ye hungry who.
Hungry herman was a big center on our basketball team.
And they named the sandwich after that to this day
is still a sandwich in College Park, Maryland, Hungry herman Vill.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
His last name was real. Do you remember the sandwich?
Do you remember the basketball player from Syracuse. Herm hurried.
They called him the copter, which is just art span
of like a draft. Yeah, that's the first.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Thing Washington he was, but he was a little before
our time.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yeah, no doubt. So we have a show coming up
which we're again we referenced the not knowing exactly when
this is air. I think this is, you know, the
following weekend, so we may not. We may be airing
this show while we're in Dallas for Brian Kilmead's History,
Liberty and Laughs tour Dallas. Do you know the name
of the theater.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
The wind Spears, four levels, a big opera house, and
it's the big to date, it's the biggest show, biggest venue.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
That's twenty four hundred and bigger than bigger than Las Vegas.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
I thought Vegas was, but that's a couple of others. I
was like, wow, this is a lot of people. Yeah, yeah,
whatever he said, I believe.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
But we want to bring up the date that we
can absolutely promote and absolutely you know, tell people about
and get people to and Bobby, if you have that, yep,
there were the September twenty seventh, yep. And can I
see that? Let me just Virginia September twenty seventh, Dominion

(52:50):
Dominion Energy Center.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Yes, we got to reach out to Dan de Lucy.
I believe he'd lose down there.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Pat talk about the amount of fun that you know,
from the beginning, you would go out and do stand up.
I don't know what I was doing there other than
keeping you guys company, come out in the middle sputter
out some sentence fragments and introduce you. But once we
started getting incorporated into the skits, into the show and

(53:16):
to the skits. We started out with three and now
it's grown to where each book that and now he's
writing more books.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
So we get more band costumes. Yes, we're up to
I think I six or seven parts each. And we
just explained a little bit with a little bit of
humor to it, what's happening in his books.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
So we start off with George Washington's Secret six, great
story about.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
The spy ring from the spir Ring from.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Long Island that changed the course of the American Revolution.
And then we move on to Thomas Jefferson, the Tripoli Pirates.
We talked about Andrew Jackson in the Battle of New Orleans,
Sam Houston, the.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
Amalo Avengers that next week done in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
That's gonna be that's gonna be huge, and we expect
a surprise guests from Fox TV. Yes, but by all
means go. You know, there's a certain kinship that exists
between Brian Kilmead and Arthur Lee of Live. Fact that
Arthur is at just about every show is just about

(54:18):
every show that he's able to go.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Turn around and always author right there, which doesn't I
love him, but he's he's right there.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
And he runs and he runs into he gets himself
involved in the show. Yes, he does still usher me
out of Santa Anna, capture me. He's done that a
couple of times and uh.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Shout out shows even Yeah, absolutely, and I think even
one time we put a life back on the table
we're having dinner.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yes, when Teddy Roosevelt was having dinner with book Book Washington,
there was a life fact and I inquired his book
T Washington, I said, what's that? And you said, don't worry,
it's the life. It's going to be real.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
So which which of the let me you know two things,
Which is your favorite of the skids that we do,
and which is the one that offers the most challenge
in costume changes and timing. I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
Well, I think sam Uston and the Almo Avengers, I
think it gets the best reaction every time because there's
a lot of good lines in that skit and it's
a it's such an interesting story about how everything went down,
and we just act that out, but we do it
in a goofy way, and we throw some of our
own lines in.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
And because it's timely in that there's a certain thing
that you know, people aren't.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Spend seven or eight minutes on each book, but sometimes
you know, and and Brian every I've never seen him
do the same show twice, so sometimes I'll just turn
around and go, I'm cutting that section out, and he'll
go right on to the next skit.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
And you're running up the stairs with your bad.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
Wig and you're you know, falling out of your pants
and trying to get back out there, and they get it.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
They put these microphones on you and listen. Listen. Comedy
is the lowest form of showbiz.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
You stay at the worst hotels, You get the if
you promised four hundred bucks, oh no one came, he's
a hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Like you're just treated like terrible. You can attest.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
We fly, you know, first class, get picked up by
you know, these security vans right to the back of
the these beautiful theaters we go to. One time I
was backstayed and I said, I need some ice. The
guy's talent needs some ice. I'm like, no, no, I
need some ice.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
You have the talent.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
I'm like, oh my god, were the talent. So it's
like being a movie starts, I believe. Then you go
back home on Monday and you're like, what what just happened?
And me and you were exhausted till Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Brian's on the air Monday morning, you know sometimes two
three hours later, you know, he drops us off at
like you know, midnight on a Sunday night.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
He's back at work six hours later.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I often want to say something to that effect when
I come out for the first time, like people have
an appreciation, and most people do that are there. But
when we returned from one of these shows, and I
know from talking to you, we're peeling ourselves out of
bed Monday morning, maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, not.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Even You're just exhausted because you just a lot of
these We've done two shows in a weekend where you
fly in here, you're going there, you're doing this, you do,
you get home, You're like, what's just happened? You met
all these people? You know, you went to all these
places or you know, the meet and greet. It's just
so many, so so compacted in But that's his whole life,
all the time.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
And he's, uh, he's been doing it. He continues to
do it and again. I remember about a month ago
telling us that he's going to take a break from
writing for a while, and that lasted.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
And signed two weeks. So he's get He's got three
more books, at least.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
New games do count new history book? Of two new
history books? Well, one history book.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I don't like you.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
I don't know if we're ready to give ideas, but
we had. He gave us an idea of what the
history books to several events.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
But I mentioned the kinship between or the connection between
life acts. Of course, Arthur Lee played for Brian Kilmead's
soccer team back in high school. They you know, remained
not the closest, but certainly u a connected to each
other Brian in a way that Brian was one of
the first media opportunities for the word or the notion

(57:59):
of life fact to get out there to radio and
now the Fox News channel and Brian Commuter responsible for
about I think about thirty lives saves. So it's right
out there on the on the media.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Leader from the radio two.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Well, when people are asked, how did you hear about it?
So they mentioned Brian by name of a Fox News channel,
which all gets credited to Brian because he was the first.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Did they ever say roadshow Ryan?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
And so I think the roadshow Ryan, it's probably coming,
it's probably it's probably there. He was involved. He was
involved a couple of weeks ago with an assist where
someone saved the life and they credited running into Ryan
at Costco and getting trained on us. Yeah, no doubt.
Well this is this has been great. We're out of
time and I think it's time. Pat, thank you so much,

(58:46):
thanks for letting me be here again. Yeah, I've been
Rick Thatcher. This has been the man in the arena
and it's time for Mike Row to take us home.
Good night. Eric Sunstead, thanks, it's no joke.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
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they'll be death to get life back and leave get
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