In the Arena - Show 57

In the Arena - Show 57. Brought to you by LifeVac. Hosted by Rick Fatscher. With special guests. Be sure to catch Mr. 3000, Ray Priebe, with news on the latest lives saved. The Man in the Arena airs live @ 6:30pm EST every Thursday night from Paradise Studios NY via the STRONGISLAND.COM Entertainment Network.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's no joke.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
When you choke togad life back and without breath, they'll
be death Cigad Life back, and gad life back and
life Lie Back, Life Back.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome everyone to in the arena where we hon our courage,
resilience and the fight for life. This week's episodes we
reflect for just a few moments on the anniversary of
nine to eleven, which the day we're taping, a reminder
of the sacrifice and the price of freedom and the
recent tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, underscoring the ongoing battles
for truth and security in our time. Will also turn

(00:45):
to a critical health concern, the increased risk of choking
face by those living with Parkinson's disease and what can
be done to protect them. And my name is Rick
Facheram joined by Arthur Lee CEO inventor of Life BAC
and Patrick o' work over there stage right, guys, welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
On the nine to eleven and Charlie, we just need
to pray and hope, you know, I think obviously everyone
should take a moment and say a prayer for those
lost at nine to eleven, both the families and the
first responders and Charlie's family, you know. But the connection
is life can change in a minute, in an instant,

(01:25):
and that's choking, you know, and it really kind of
connected to me how quickly things change. Yeah, we'll just
make sure we'll say a prayer for everybody, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thoughts and prayers is a word that's thrown out a lot.
It might be overused, but in this case, just a yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Take a second.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Any reflections on you know, the twenty four years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
I worked at the World Trade Center from eighty seven
to ninety six. Yeah, full World Trade traded commodities, and
I was after the ninety three bombing, and that morning
I was I went to work with well close eight
is in the middle of the two within the middle
of two high rises that was destroyed two on nine
to eleven. But I was driving to work and I
heard a plane hit the World Trade Center and I

(02:11):
turned around and went back home, like I got to
see this. And when I got home, the second plane
in had like a one year old son. But I
remember thinking when when they started collapsing, I was like,
twenty thousand people just died. I was amazed how many
people they got out of there. It was basically if
you were below there, they got.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Everyone out of it.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Were you supposed to be there? Like, no, you were
on your way to work.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
I was on my way to work, different job I left.
I left the Commodity Exchange in ninety six. But I
was like, hit you know, and I'm like, that can't
be like a jet airliner. Right away, I was.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like, this can't be like a mistake a guy. Just
you can't. That's impossible to hit that.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
It was daylight today, beautiful perfectly. Yeah, yeah, so clear
blue sky.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
And then the other part was, you know, then I panicked,
you know, when the buildings collapsed, and it was like,
you know, reports at first like I have at least
thirty or forty firefighter friends, and I did lose two
of them.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
But I thought like, oh my god, George can yep Georgie.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
And the guy guy named Amon Macanini was he worked
for Cana Fitzgerald and one other fellow that we knew
when we worked at the Commodity Exchange to terrible day.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, they when they were workers, not first responder. Yeah,
it was a horrible day. And we have to remember
and pray and look to the future.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
And if there was any doubt that evil doesn't exist.
I think yesterday approved that it does. You know, more
prayers than more porers than ever.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
So, but we have to keep going to make a difference.
Every day we've saved lives. Today, Ray's coming on earlier
and we're gonna We're gonna talk to us. I posted
yesterday after we saved the life, and I said, celebrating
lives saved is more important than ever today. Right, so
we pray, we remember we save lives to prevent all
that horrible feelings that the families experience right now. And

(03:55):
a lot of people have to remember today the paint.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And I remember early today I was taping up promo
for our show this weekend in the Hall of Saves
out in Wisconsin, New York, and I was reminded of
the comparisons that some folks first responders who have been
to the Hall of Saves out at Life back and
what a different type of feeling you get being surrounded by.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Well, I just got a chill because I remember the
first time said to me, someone said to me that
this wall in four minutes would be like the nine
to eleven Memorial, like the Vietnam War Memorial. You know
it would be remembrance instead of the celebration. Instead you
walk in there and go, wow, that feels good.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
And that's only the ones that are reported. Yeah, I
still think it's twice.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
He's got the numbers. He knows. But you're absolutely right
and that God will and good. Yeah, exactly. That's the
important thing is I gotta tell you one of the
best things is when someone walks up to me and
says they saved my kid's life. I say, you reported,
They're like, no, I mean road show. Ryan's probably got
to wan.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Road Ryan Warner at Costcos across the country coming to
near you soon if he hasn't been there already. And yes,
I spent out here in the single.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Look, is this an ad for road ride? Of course,
flood he's worthy.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well he gets married. I don't think to be on
the road anymore. Maybe we should.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Road ride is no longer available.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
With a bago live with the driver around the country.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Oh yeah, dig that.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, let's tonight we talk about UH. As we talked
about the Hall of Saves UH and the and the
amount of people five thousand people each year. Unfortunately, dive
accidental choking h needs to go down to zero with
life back on the scene and a lot of those
predominance or young children and also older you know, older
folks and everyone in between, but more percentages from the elderly,

(05:52):
and a lot of it's due to park neurologic conditions
like Parkinson.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And parkins is number one as far as he in
the neurological world. You know, we say people with Parkinson's
and MS and so palsy and more of the MS,
muscle distric feed neurologic. Parkinson number one.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Unbelievable. And you know, I just read a little snippet
today that says turning a simple meal into a potential emergency,
you know, And we're going to talk to you know
you you use the term before hero and you don't
throw that around a lot, but for someone to come
on and share their story. Becky Gupta, who's joining us
in a second, is a hero. You're gonna tell a

(06:35):
story about how life act impacted her family. And Becky
Gupta joins us from Cincinnati, Ohio. Hello there, Becky, Hello.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Well we once again.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
I know I was able to talk to you a
little bit before the show started about the impact we're
having and today's discussion on you know, the two aspects
that we tackle Parkinson's. And you know, I'm very grateful,
and you know you said such a beautiful comment. I
know your dad has passed. I'm sorry, but you I've

(07:08):
had this before that the light back allowed them to
pass more on their terms when they're composed to. And
I remember I got a really sincere note once that said,
you know, our dad passed like a week later, but
he didn't pass when he wasn't supposed to. And we
were all there and in the manner in which he

(07:30):
was designing the destined to go and I.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Just thank you, yeah, and it was thank you. It
wasn't a save report.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
It was just a car note and I was like, wow,
that's that's some beautiful gratitude to realize that. So you
hit on it and I appreciate that. And once again,
I'm sorry about your dad.

Speaker 8 (07:49):
So thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah. How long ago did that pass?

Speaker 8 (07:52):
Becky?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
So I'm sorry, so sorry. If you're lost, going back
to where you first, I believe you bought the Life
Act for a completely different reason.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
I did.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
I did.

Speaker 8 (08:06):
I bought it for my when my youngest son was born,
thinking when he starts table foods, I don't want to panic.
And I know I'm a nurse, but there's gonna be
babysitters my husband who's not medically trained, and I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I don't trust any.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
You know it just and it never came out of
the cabinet, luckily, until my father started advancing in his
Parkinson's and started having a lot of issues swallowing. And
he lived with my mom, obviously, and she kept telling me,
I'm just really scared what's going to happen? And I
thought I've got a great solution. And I took it

(08:44):
over there and I gave her, not thinking she'd ever
use it, about a twenty cinc second intro on how
to use it, and didn't think much else about it until.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Answer something When you first bought it? Where did you
see it? Facebook? TikTok Facebook?

Speaker 6 (08:59):
Okay book?

Speaker 8 (08:59):
It was during the pandemic actually, and the P word.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (09:05):
I was bored at home and I thought that's and
I was sitting there feeding my son still, you know,
not eating solids, and I thought, this is a great
peace of mind. So I went ahead and got it,
not thinking that it would.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Be something good.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
Good and media too in general. But the other thing
quick going on.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
This is the piece of mindport way back are the
first woman who got that mom had MS, and she
mentioned that both her and her mother kind of had
one of the weights slipped it off them, right, they
had something.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
You know, there's enough emotional, physical pain and effort and thought.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
So I appreciate one of those little edge off right.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
A little even even speaking of that, I have one
of my house. I gave one to my son. He
just put a house and I'm like, I got to
get one for my car, just for a peace of mind. Yeah,
we have and save today.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Ye, so it's my next bend.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
I ran across the street and saved the old man.
They bought it for their kids and ran across and
said the old guy across the street.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
That's why it's so great that each comes with an
adult ani pediatric mask. And again you mentioned it before.
It doesn't wear out. It's a good time to recall.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Becky, how old was yours when you used it?

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Five years old?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Five years dad? Thank you? That's my dad. Man cool,
Our dad's both have armies today. Nice, So tell us
tell us what happened.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
So my dad was my dad was pretty much chair bound,
so he was upright at all times, and he was
just eating a pretzel talking to my mom, and before
you knew it, it was a complete occlusion of his airway.
My mom panicked and ran and thankfully got the life
back and tried to get his chair down so he
was reclining and she couldn't and she thought, there's no

(10:52):
way I'm going to be able to do this. I mean,
she's eighty four. Oh wow, she was able to whip
that thing out, and with the very few instructions I
gave her. She said, it came out pretty quickly after that,
and she called nine to one one and by the
time they got there, he was finishing his dinner, laughing,

(11:12):
but he was not breathing, and no heir was passing
at all. My mom is heime look maneuver trained. She's
a nurse as well, but there was no possible way
she had the strength to use the Heimelok maneuver or
get him in the position to do it. So if
it was not for the life back, we would have
lost him that day.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
And you.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Know, the typical you know male from that generator. I'm good.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
He's a retired surgeon, so he had more of a
don't mess with me kind of out aude.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Your family.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
To lose.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
So one of the more important aspects of I mean,
it's all like amazing information on the life Save report,
but you being a nurse and your mom being a
a nurse, other methods were tried, correct.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
I mean, they were known that they were affected, but
they couldn't be tried unfortunately, because of the position he
was in, and because of my mom is not strong
and she's you know, elderly herself, but she was able
to use it successfully in the position he was in
and with her little strength. So it's just incredible.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
This is such a gobwing because I try to raise
awareness on all those aspects. There's actually an organization called
Equal First Aid, and one of the reasons it's been
required in the State of Texas school system is because
of people wheelchairs, medical braces, they have no option exactly recently,
the Red Cross makes the recommendation and actually acknowledges that

(12:48):
they say if protocol fails or is not feasible, And
that's such.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
A huge statement for our school.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Systems, our eldercare systems, because you don't realize there's nothing
until that time happens exactly way back, way back, early on,
I went into a disability facility and you know, I said,
this thing and no one knew about it. And I
don't think I got to save, but I said, you know,
and she was telling me why she couldn't have it,

(13:18):
and I said, this person can't be saved. And I
saw her kind of go white, and she was like,
holy cow, I never thought of that. Now she didn't
get it because she was going to get in trouble.
But with the Red Cross recommendation, it not only brings
it to the public not feasible, it says, we are
telling you you could use this thing.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
And how about the tie in with the Americans with
disability acts.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, right, Well that's the whole thing where the bottom
line of the ADA is. This could not be more
clear as to its the usefulness of the ADA. If
you put a curb cut, you open the door, you
have a special desk, and then you know in the
cafeteria they choked to death because the poster doesn't recognize
it's the fact that there is nothing. It's pretty frustrating

(14:04):
and wrong and sad. So you know, all these components
and I think it's a bit of a godewing that
you're willing to come on and share are the things
I'm trying to break the light, right, and even the
fact about your mom not having the strength, right, that
happens all the time time.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
I wouldn't have had the strength. I mean, it's not
just that she's elderly. I mean that's more common than
you would think. It's hard to get someone up and
do the Heimlich maneuver. It's very difficult. It's very difficult.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
And we also, you know, there's a point where people
are in bed, you know, where you're particularly in als, right,
where their condition is going to require they can't even
swallow towards the end. Right, So we have the two
things that are major that could get addressed here. The
fact that he went back to eating right. We didn't

(14:57):
have to We didn't have to say you can't need it?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Is that dad? Yeah, yeah, gotta be hungry, gotta.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
He was laughing about it later.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
And it's a guy over Holy God, that morning we
got to step away for a moment, be able to
stick around.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Sure, all right, we'll see you on the other side.
You're listening to in the arena with Ritt Thatcher, Arthur
Lee paddle Rourke and of course our wonderful guest Becky Gupta,
and we'll be back with more after this.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
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over ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
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lives from choking.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
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Speaker 1 (15:54):
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Speaker 4 (15:58):
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Speaker 7 (16:06):
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Speaker 3 (16:10):
Now and we are back. And where are we guys?
We're in the arena. Yeah, baby, we've been talking with
Becky Gupta, who whose mom saved her dad. Uh quite
a few years ago, three years ago?

Speaker 8 (16:24):
No, this was uh a couple a couple of months ago. Wow,
a couple of months before my dad passed. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
How do you like Donna?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
She's amazing to the company. Where does mom? Does mom
talk more with Donna?

Speaker 8 (16:43):
And my mom has never spoken to her since I
purchased it, and then I reached out to her to
think her and she called me. I mean, I don't
think they've ever actually connected, but.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Very very connected to our call. She's awesome, very passionate.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
We have communications in the company and the small life
BAC family each night, and each story like your dad's
and your story comes through at night, and it's just
such an amazing recap for the day to read the
details of stories like yours, and you know, again, we
don't always get the opportunity to speak, especially as we

(17:20):
approach five thousand lives worldwide and those are just that
are reported. We talk about this a lot. Where go
about their business?

Speaker 6 (17:30):
I do. Did you become a nurse because of dead?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (17:35):
Mostly my dad was a surgeon and just always.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Mom and dad met she was a nurse, he was
a surgeon.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Or yes, yes, what does your husband he's a lawyer?

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Oh god, this man attorney.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I was hoping that aways a.

Speaker 8 (17:51):
Good kind of lawyer though he just helps people cold caller.
He's an estate planner. That's a good kind.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
That's awesome. Hard to find a good guy lawyer.

Speaker 8 (18:04):
I agree, he's a very good one. I promise.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
I spoke about it themselves, for God says now, in
your career as a nurse, did you ever come across choking?

Speaker 8 (18:11):
I have. I've had to use the homework maneuver on
a patient in the hospital.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yes, successful both times.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
Yes, Yes, Luckily she was about eighty pounds, so that's
how I was able to be successful with that patient
in the hospital.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
And how long ago?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Eight nine years ago?

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Let me ask your opinions on this because there's another
area where I felt it could be very critical and useful.
Crash cart in the hospital. What do you think?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
One?

Speaker 8 (18:43):
Amazing if it was available, absolutely, because that was the
amount of patients that are not mobile and you cannot
timli them in the hospital is greater than you're going
to see it, you know, anywhere else in public and portable.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
So in some hospitals have a portable such advice which
is effect you tell us what a crash kid is.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
So in a crash card is an ae D which
is what you see on TV where they you know,
shop patient and then a lot of medications and then
your airways which you know to indicate people and things
like that. But there is nothing that's going to dislodge wells.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Intubation is a pretty complex uhmos traumatic Are you.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Still at that hospital.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
I'm in a different hospital than I was when the
choking incident occurred.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yeah, we should start there. I mean, we have my
thought if the team is here.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
I think you know, obviously awareness and you know the
she said it that in a hospital, think about it.
I know I thought about it when my dad had
open heart surgery and he was hugging the heart pillow
for like two weeks, like he choked you you couldn't
you'd kill him, right, And I didn't connect that do

(19:57):
at the time, because I thought you did, Di I'm
looking at work. I didn't really ever think about it.
But once I came up with I heard about the
kid that died I wanted to save. I said, oh
my god, that would have been great. And my dad
he sume to like Alzheimer's, so we worried about him
with the same problem, the neurological failure of swallowing.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, I bet you. Becky would like to hear about
the inspiration, the inspirational story where you came up with
the idea.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well, you know, it's it's interesting and we've had so
many saves because of our parents' love for their child.
Right the one today they bought it for their kids.
He ran across and saved his elderly neighbor. I did
it because I heard of his seven year old that
choked to death, and I didn't want my hospital or
my child.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
To choke to death. You know, she's fine, she always was,
never had a problem. I've never seen her choke. But
oh she's a problem. But it's a whole nother podcast
too good.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
You could makes me cry like daily today we.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Got a picture she's studying by the pool and she's
got all her anatomy drawn.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
What a tough life.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
I remember studying by the pool, right, remember No, I
don't know so there was no pool.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
I remember studying the truck at JFK Airport.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
But the point was that a lot of people get
it for their children.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
It was inspired by my child and then and.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
The need to not be the only one, right, so
we persevered to bring it out to everyone.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
It's not even neurological like in like a lot of
people are just old and frail. Yeah, way, doing the
hindlely could be broken damaging.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, what's the risk of injury thirty.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
With about thirty three percent on the if you do
abdominal trust and back clothes and we'll talk red frost.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
They break the ribs and puncture.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And save your life always like you can break.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
No, and I'm all for it. I agree, But I
think the fact that much less evasive that I was
just curious.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
By picking Becky's brain because she knows the situation with
their dad was exactly the problem.

Speaker 6 (21:59):
He's in a chair. Yep, you can't get your arms around.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Them, so you know, and that it worked and he
went back to eating with love.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Right, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well, we need to know. Also, do you have any
siblings begging?

Speaker 8 (22:14):
I do?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
How many?

Speaker 8 (22:17):
A lot?

Speaker 9 (22:18):
Five?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Lawyers? Doctors, all of them?

Speaker 8 (22:21):
No, nos, And uh, they're in all sorts of different fields.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Good.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, your mom sounds amazing saving her husband. What type
of you know, what kind of nursing did she pediatric?

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Oh my goodness. Right, this is such a godwings and
it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
And dad was a surgeon, general surgeon.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
You're a logic surgeon.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You're logic.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
What do you want advice?

Speaker 3 (22:52):
No, I'm just trying to get a picture of.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
When they meet in the hospitals.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
I do.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
See he's half a doctor.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
He is one of the it's spent thirty years in
hospital settings as a pharmaceutical rep meant that I remember
working in the eurology department and as a waiting system
urethro Graham. So does it sounds like fun? Of course,
it's a very common question.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It is.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's basically you're you know, you're urinating during this test.
So we go again. So appreciate you joining us.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Any you in best background? Probably so far Jersey, remember.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Around driving around doing Aaron's and we also had a
gentleman in a canoe out of the lake. So this
is the one background golf course. If you could say
anything to folks out there who have heard about Life
Fact and I just don't think it's right for them,
what would you say.

Speaker 8 (23:58):
That it's the best thing that I have ever purchased, obviously,
and the peace of mind alone was so comforting. But
it literally gave my entire family so much more time
with my dad, and he didn't you know, he was
able to pass with all of us by his side,

(24:19):
completely obviously unrelated on his own terms. And it was
I mean, it changed everything, and I am forever grateful
and I will forever beg everyone to have one in
their home because you just don't know when you'll need it,
and I mean it's changed everything for my family, So
just do it.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Save this tape. That's a good commercial.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Well, it is true, and I appreciate the gratitude.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
Even though I appreciate you, you have no idea my
whole family. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
We encourage everyone that's, you know, listening to Becky's story
to go to the website and get the real original
because it's important, and.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
We educate them to make that decision.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
We're not shaying wow, guys, not saying oh, you buy
one that you know. We're saying, these are the circumstances,
and these are the consequences. And by enlightening them on
the things they don't think about in a chair, the
peace of mind, the physics of your big they're small,
saving yourself, these are the places that we can enlighten
people and bring the light to challenges that people with Parkinson's.

(25:27):
Face was swallowing as it's why you should consider it early.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
On standard protocols. Thirty to fifty percent failure rate, even
with nurses and medical professionals.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Well, you don't have Aranian lungs, and it gets worse
in that statistic with the elderly because they're not inhaling
as deeply when they're shallow breathers, and there's not enough
ammo in your lungs to be compressed.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
Right.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
So these are all things that these moments and that
are making us aware of.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
No, I love it knows it's it's time time for
a break. Well, Becky, goot to me, thank you so
much again, and we'll be back before you.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
In the arena, she started to choke on a piece
of candy.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
She wasn't breathing.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
Then Ray reached for the life back in it saved her.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
She could have easily died that day. A life back
saved her life.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
What I would say is, don't need a life back
and not have it. Have a life back and hopefully
never need it.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Recently, the American Red Cross has added anti joking devices
as an option when standard protocol fails or is not feasible.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Go to life back dot net or called eight seven
seven five four three three eight two to.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Two what's that? Or maybe we could do Ray, Hey,

(27:17):
we're back with more. In the arena. We've been talking
to Becky Gupta talking about how her mom saved her dad,
who was suffering from Parkinson's and gave him his final
chapter wasn't written with tragedy.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
How beautiful was that though? Her gratitude for the extra
week or whatever. And it did end with her saying,
you know, the whole family was there, and you think
about it.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That's how he was supposed.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
It was inevitable.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, and they all got to experience the proper way,
not oh my god, you know, and I think, I
don't know, there's a lot of beauty in the appreciation.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Even at his wake they were probably all saying, you know,
thank god he didn't pass away choking.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
And it is a horrible death. It's just terrible, and
I just think that it's Can we take a break
quite a title moment, you know, as we as we.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Give you a behind the scenes look of a major
studio production. We are being joined by Michelle sense del
journo and Michelle are you there? Yes, it's so great
to see you this evening. Thanks so much for joining
us in the arena.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
And you just walk off the mat and put your
phone on your counter.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Fresh from class?

Speaker 5 (28:35):
How did it go?

Speaker 9 (28:37):
Oh fantastic? I just finished up karate classes. Hello to
my one one seven padres.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Former massive Pequin in the house, in the house field
and now and now out in sag Harvard, New York.
That's right, and soon to be in Indianapolis. So about that,
let's find out.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
The public needs. Now, Michelle, you weren't listening, but we're
kind of.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
We just got off with Becky Coop that she saved her,
her mom saved her father had Parkinson's, he choked, she
saved them. He eventually passed away. The beauty of the
moment was they were grateful that he was able to
pass the way he was supposed to, that his family
was there, and they were grateful. And her message was
kind of the dangers of swallowing with people of Parkinson's,

(29:25):
as you're familiar with, but also you know some of
the nuances, meaning he was in a chair and his
mom's eighty or six. She couldn't have behindlooked him anyway,
couldn't get him up, a lot of the things we
talk about for the advantages of being prepared with life back.
So she you know, she shared that with us and

(29:46):
her remarkable family of geniuses.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Was interest.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
But this component is the more of the fight against
parkinson the psychological, the physical. What you do and I
know you were just in the city teaching a class.
But here's something I think is important to know about her.
Did you look at her resume?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
She's a tough cookie.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Yeah. Well, tell us a little bit about your career.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Your career and what you accomplished as a Hall of
Fame member of the Karate Hall of thing.

Speaker 9 (30:23):
Oh yeah, Women's Karate Hall of Fame, Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Well, I've been training in karate since I was an
older teenager and actually right there in Massapequa is where
I started, and then I went out on my own,
and you know, I've been a black belt for almost
thirty five years.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
So I had a long career. I competed a lot
in sport karate and some continuous contact type of almost
like kickboxing, so it was pretty like full contact. And
I want a lot of national titles and uh gold
medal in the world Championships. And that's just been what

(31:07):
I've been doing. And I've been teaching.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Class. So it's epic martial arts, right, epic martial arts.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
And one time they played the national anthem after I won.
You know it's called the Olympics.

Speaker 9 (31:22):
I don't know, Yeah, the tan Am Games. That was fun.
We won the team gold medal there. That was a
lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Where was where was the games?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (31:33):
That was I think it was in Brazil maybe.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Yeah, this was a team thing.

Speaker 9 (31:41):
Yeah, that was a team me and two other women.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
So when you were competing, when did you realize yourself
that this is going to be my also my my life.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (31:53):
Immediately when I was a white belt, I went to
a tournament and I won, and that was it.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I was hooked in.

Speaker 9 (31:59):
I was like, this is this is for me?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So why did you start?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Were you afraid of Arthur and Elementary school? Is that true?
Not true? You can't believe we have other Fairfield alumni
in the building, like Corroborate.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Sorry, I started.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
I started karate.

Speaker 9 (32:25):
I started karate because my boyfriend at the time was
a boxer and he was going to this karate school
to box with these guys. He was a Golden Gloves boxer,
so he'd go there for sparring. So it's like, come
on down and check it out. And you guys know
him too, we do, yes, And so I followed you

(32:47):
and that was it.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
I was like, I got to join this.

Speaker 9 (32:49):
I gotta do this.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
I want to fight, but quick, wait, you got to
back up a second. You said you have a black belt.
I get a numerous black belts.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
How many degrees?

Speaker 9 (33:01):
Sixth degree?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Now?

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Yeah, six sixth degree black belt?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I have numerous Are your hands registered with the law
enforcement as lethal weapons?

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Is that no?

Speaker 9 (33:11):
But I do have to be careful, yeah, for sure.
So I can't get any street fights.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
You know.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
Yeah, So now I teach I'd like to teach women's
self defense and young girls empowering self defense classes. I
do some of those out here locally. But then just
uh about eight years eight years. Actually, tomorrow is our
eighth anniversary of rock Steady Boxing.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Rock Steady Boxing.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
We're going to be at the National Convention and at
your eighth anniversary.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Yes, we're going to Coach con It's the eighth anniversary
that I've been doing rock Steady Boxing. It has been
going for eighteen years, and it is a worldwide program
with over eight hundred affiliates around the world.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
You can get that graphic up on it. Just toil it.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
I would like her to to explain a little bit
about it.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Absolutely, you know, like I said a couple of times,
I've had the honor and pleasure of being a one
of my helper or something.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Coach, No, not blocking, dummy, not a coach, I thought,
Michelle said, coach, that'd be more like it.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
There it is.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Join us at Coach Con twenty twenty five, September twelfth
to fourteenth. I don't know if this will air, but
certainly the folks that are listening on YouTube and Facebook
live have a chance to just be aware of them.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
They could stop by, but I think the key to
this show is men and women in the arena, making
people aware of day to day the situations and how
we can make them better.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
That the lady that we had on begging check about
no boxing.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So Michelle, talk us, so tell us a little bit
about when you started and the impact that had.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
So a martial arts colleague of mine from the West Coast,
he told me about rock Steady Boxing. There was an
episode on The Today Show with Leslie Stahl where she
was in the famous world famous Gleason's Gym in New
York City of boxing gym, and her husband was participating
in rock Steady Boxing for Parkinson's and so she aired
this episode. And this is going back probably about twelve

(35:18):
or thirteen years ago. It took me a while to
get it going. But but so that really blew up
rock steady boxing. It put them on the map, if
you will. I like, their websites literally blew up, and
they became very popular with that training modality to fight

(35:39):
back against Parkinson's. Right, So boxing is about fighting, right,
the boxer goes in the ring to do what what
is he going in to win?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
To win?

Speaker 9 (35:52):
Right, He's going in to win. So it's the winner mentality,
the boxing mentality, the fighting. That's the hook. Okay, boxing
is the hook and you know, pun intended boxing is
the hook, and that's what keeps us our boxers. We
don't call them patients. This isn't physical therapy. So they

(36:12):
didn't call it rock steady physical therapy, right, they called
it rock steady boxing, and it's just taken off. We
do focus a lot on Parkinson's specific you know, things
that they have like freezing of gait, and actually when
they're moving and very active they can see less symptoms.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
But here's where the sociological park comes in, right, And
if you think about it, when she explains it that way,
you kind of see how technical that part is. It's
not therapy, it's fighting. You're a boxer, you know, you're
just happen to have parkins and what that changes is
your mental mindset going in one you get to fight it.

(36:56):
I'm not a patient right now, right, And the second
part is your your mind and mentality and camaraderie.

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
So I know Michelle could tell us much better as
she gets robbed that no one's robbing.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
That's the wrong the head.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
If you have to get up and take care of
business and you let us help.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Yeah, we just film it.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yes, so.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Talk about that. You see, and I saw it just
being there. How sometimes they come in and go out.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
Yeah, so look, it's a it's a gift for me
to be here and help them. I come to class
and I think, you know, sometimes I struggle a little
in the morning. I didn't sleep well this that, and
I think, wow, these people. I have fifteen people here
with Parkinson's ten o'clock in the morning. They get up,
they get out the door. I have like, no, I

(37:51):
can't complain about anything. I get in here and I
fire them up. It's a tough love. I'm in their faces,
I'm shouting at them, I'm pushing them. There has been here,
he's seen. Excuse me.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
The classes classy is you have me doing this one.
I was dying, I was sweating my shirt, I was dredged.
I'm like, I thought I was gonna stand here.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Look he likes the shouting next time.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So see the immediate impact just in one, you know,
one session, one session starting out, you see the difference
in the in the participants.

Speaker 9 (38:24):
Yeah. Absolutely, It's just it's very uplifting. It's not like
them sitting around in a support group. Okay, so they're
in here, they're sweating together, they're you know, we've had tears,
We've had a lot of different challenges here.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know.

Speaker 9 (38:38):
Sometimes I push them to things that they, you know,
really don't think they can do, and in the end
they can. They can do the best that they can
add it, and they really feel like they've accomplished something.
But if you come down the hallway here in the morning,
I have a boxing class park it you know, rock
steady boxing here.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
Fifteen people on the mat.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Wow, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 9 (38:58):
Doing nine classes a week. If you come down the hallway,
just walk wandering down and seeing, oh what's going on
in there? You look in the door and you think
it's a boxing class. So people come up to the
door and they're like, oh, is this a boxing class?
So could you give me some information? And then I'm like,
this is rock steady boxing for Parkinson's. Like you wouldn't
know watching them that it's actually a class for people

(39:22):
with Parkinson's because they're running all over the place.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
But you know, they said something that they really hit
me because of the couple times I was there that
you know, sometimes you're dragging you get in they are too,
and I noticed that, you know, there'd be ten of them,
three of them wouldn't look like they barely wanted to
be there, you know, and they were.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
They were fighting their battle, but you know that day
they were losing.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
But by the time they left, they were pumped up,
and you know it was there's no bad meaning, right,
They always walk out better and mentally better. And I
think that's what's so important about the combination of boxing
and yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
How long does that high last for the you know,
for for the participants. Do they go home and there
on cloud nine and the family can see a difference?

Speaker 9 (40:14):
Oh yeah, I mean absolutely there. Well, first of all,
their their grandchildren can't believe that they're boxing. Grandma's a boxer.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
They're a little bit more, Grandma, we give is it more?
Is it equally divided between men?

Speaker 9 (40:31):
And I'd say there's a little bit more men. Then
we are seeing more women being We're seeing more people
actually being diagnosed with Parkinson's in general, but more and
more women. However, I think the boxing just still We're
still trying to get through to you know, women that
you can do it. So I help because obviously I'm
a woman, so I can, you know, get the men

(40:53):
women involved in that more. And we do a lot
in the community here and everybody. It's a small town,
I mean it's sag Harbor is a small town. We
cover all of the East End. My program is very
unique because it's sponsored by Stoneybrooks Southampton Hospital and it's
a free program for people living on the East End
with Parkinson's. So there's no excuse, there's no excuse.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Get in touch with you out there.

Speaker 9 (41:20):
Yeah, Well, they can call me at Epic Martial Arts
in sag Harbor. You can just google that. You can
google rock Steady Boxing sag Harbor and you'll find my
number and give us a call. We go through a
little evaluation, make sure they get in the right class.
Some people's Parkinson's a little more advanced than others. Some

(41:41):
people have never really exercised, and their neurologist tells them
when they get the diagnosis, hey, you got to work out,
you got to exercise, you got to be active, And
they never did anything but walking, you know, so it's
harder for them to get into that mindset.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Of the awareness is that this exists and you could
do it and get.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
In and fight and have fun and have fun and
have me screaming at you.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Cheeseya cheer. But tell there's a couple more things. Do
you want to take a break or do you want
to keep I've been dying here about it. How was
your barbecue?

Speaker 9 (42:19):
I have an annual barbecue at my home for my
rock Steady boxers. We have locations we have We're in
sag Harbor and Hampton Bays, and I also teach virtually.
I'm still teaching on zoom. I've taught over one thousand
classes for Parkinson's on Zoom since COVID and we're still going.
So that's really great for the people who can't really

(42:40):
get out of the house right so they but then
I have my boxers who come here in person, and
then I see them the next day virtually, so they
just they really appreciate this exercise. I mean it's really
really helping them. I have them moving in many different ways.
We do strength training to sometimes I'll get them doing
some dumb bells besides the punching and and exercises coordination.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
What was the atmosphere at your barbie?

Speaker 9 (43:05):
Oh so the barbecue?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Oh my God, give me holfully a life ackus nearby.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
Of course it was at my home, of course, and
we had ninety people in my yard for the barbecue.
Ninety people. Yeah, it was wonderful. They really look forward
to it every year. I mean, as soon as it's
like May, they're asking, are we having the barbecue again?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
You know?

Speaker 9 (43:30):
So we do that and then the hospital sponsors a
party around the holidays. We do a holiday party. April
is Parkinson's Awareness month, so we always have an activity
or two plans for that. We've taken them bowling, you're not.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I was lucky enough to go to one of the
Christmas parties, and yeah, that was a little while. But
one of the most beautiful things I saw or heard
was one of her parties, as she affectionately refers to them,
as said you know, Michelle, I want to thank you.
I would not be here without your class, I would
not be what I could do.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
And it was one hun.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Right that this between the exercise and the motivation and
the adrenaline to fight this freaking disease. He was so
accurate and sincere and grateful. And you know she's a
special First, you don't win gold medals and pretending you
didn't do anything, so that creeps into them.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
You know how much she cares and how much she knows.
And I want to hear about n YU. But now
we can take a break.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
First.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
No, you're doing fine. You're doing fine. You know what
I like to hear you mentioned before neurology, so that
you know you're definitely part of the team UH to
the patient's well being and their healthcare. How much do
the neurologists play in terms of referrals? How much do
they appreciate it? Do they see the difference that you
see every day in the studio?

Speaker 9 (45:05):
Oh? Absolutely, I have my boxers. They can't wait to
tell me when they have had a a. I think
they see them like every six months, they see their neurologists,
And boy do I start getting text messages I had
a great, uh check up. My doctor said I haven't
progressed at all, and to keep doing everything that I'm

(45:26):
doing and keep boxing. So we get I get a
lot of that.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I know when I got to save today about the
person who ran across border for their kids, ran across
the street, I always get a bump in.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
My mental.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Absolutely, it makes you feel good.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Now, he would let at n YU what this week? Right?

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (45:51):
So Rock Study Boxing also certifies clinicians physical therapists, Rick,
I think we talked about this a little bit before
your some physical therapists. Yes, that's true, and so these
are at NYU students second and third year. The physical
therapist that we trained the rock Steady Boxing trained them

(46:12):
in the rock Steady Boxing method so that they can
become certified coaches for three years and that way they
can integrate the rock Steady Boxing method in their program
in their clinical one on one. Let's say a boxer
is working at rock Steady Boxing and then maybe has
an injury or something and needs to go get PT.

(46:34):
That PT person can know the is familiar with the
boxing and rock Steady so they can work them back
up and do rock steady with them so that they
can get them back into the class or the other
way around. So this was a really my third year
teaching there. It was it's a lot of fun. They're

(46:55):
all listen, they're like twenty year olds, right, So then
I have to kick their butts, right.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Question you do, that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Keep them in lind, keep them in life.

Speaker 9 (47:04):
So I was like, really pushing them.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Can you stay with us while we take a quick
break and we'll be back with more with Michelle del
Journo after this message.

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Speaker 3 (49:08):
And we are back in the arena. My name is
Rick Thatcher. Along with Arthur Lee and Paddle Rourke, we've
been talking to Michelle Sense del giorno and part of me,
you know, kind of kidding, I feel a lot safer
because she's been in the studio. She's intimidating.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Well, she's very humble too, But I think when I
was discussing the aura is that she's credible and you
know she does you know that she can't push these people.
They need to be pushed, obviously not past any form
of danger, but you know she does get on them.
And the cheesey cheer. Tell us about the cheesy cheer,

(49:44):
the cheeseya cheer. What was today's cheese Each year?

Speaker 9 (49:48):
I scream, you scream nice series, we all scream for dopamine.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I'm going to bring that up before. That's the missing component.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
That's the formal end of every session.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
She brings them all together, and this is the mental
component and her ability to.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
All right.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
The idea for that is that we're activating the voice, right,
so we know that it's the leading one of the
leading causes of death is the respiratory, right, the aspirations.
So we're trying to get them to project their voices.
So we have them counting, we have them yelling at
the end with this cheesy cheer, and we start them
in the beginning with they get to know you question,

(50:30):
where we after we do a little warm up, we
circle up and we ask a question of the day.
Today's question was what random active kindness could you do
today for someone else? That was today's question.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
You know, I know when I was there, I didn't
know that that was like part of their.

Speaker 9 (50:48):
Now that's why we're yelling and shouting and trying to
get those of course, yeah, voice activation.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
Yeah, jeesy cheer.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I don't know why it make go home and keep
yelling spouse.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Well, Michelle with rock Steady Boxing, I know you're gonna
go to Indianapolis. Did you have any closing thoughts?

Speaker 6 (51:13):
I do.

Speaker 9 (51:13):
I want to say thank you to Arthur Lee of
course and light Back for once again sponsoring being an
official sponsor for rock Steady Boxing's Coach convention. So thank
you so much, and I'm looking forward to the weekend.
I'll be teaching other coaches my boxing drills.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
A lot of them take that session.

Speaker 9 (51:33):
Yes, Arthur, bring a T shirt this time.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Yeah, it doesn't look good in a suit.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
It doesn't look up.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
A tie.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Well, Michelle, we thank you so much again.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
All right, keep up the.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Great work, you two guys.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Keep it going there, rock.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Steady boxing and epic martial arts, the great as a
man in the arena, absolutely more.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
People than she did.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
The example today was the woman who saved it, Becky.
It existed right right and her dad, where he would
have been into this.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
Goes back and even this girl she could be teaching,
she'd be making a ton of money teaching classes to
like young kids or you know, anyone won in the
box or karate, and she's doing this great thing for people.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
And not only that, she takes it so personal. And
I could see why they're the old ladies are hysterical.
They're like, you know, but they're in there, man, And
when they're hitting that bag with you know, the force
of a marshmallow, their faces are saying, I'm fighting this freaking.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
That's why once of them go at it, just better
get hurt, wants.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Off the cameras and let's let's do this.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
I kind of like that idea.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
We may have to suggest that Michelle, this is like
that there might be some ethical issues there.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
So great talking to sense a devil and and brings
us to one of one of our favorite parts of the.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Show that sounds like Italian.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Week. We go to Florida Cape Coral, Florida to check
in with mister three thousand.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Men and women of the room, arena and life backers everywhere.
Good evening. Are we doing tonight?

Speaker 6 (53:25):
Man?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
We're doing great. Not as good as you, though not
as well.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I don't know about all that.

Speaker 5 (53:30):
It's it's rainy and miserable here, so hopefully the beautiful.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, one time of the year in Florida complain about
the weather and New York.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
It's muggy, it's sticky, it's rainy.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Sounds like your conclusion. It's hot. You don't have it
get hot and sticky.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
That's right, that's right. So here on nine to eleven,
I'm throw a.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Yeah before right before we sorry, before we get to
at the outside of the show we're taping on nine
to eleven. Of course, we had a tragy yesterday. I
just wanted to give you an opportunity to, you know,
share thoughts on this twenty fourth anniversary of nine to
eleven and of course the tragedy I saw you posted
on Facebook.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Just a horrible day, Yes, yes, absolutely, twenty four years ago.
You know America was an attacked and you know, as
an American we will never forget where we were when
that took place. You know, twenty four years later, I
remember it like it was yesterday, and you know it's

(54:36):
there was a lot of bad that that happened, but
a lot of good came out of it also, which
brings me to one of my favorite quotes that I
that I that I saw shortly after nine to eleven,
that I that I always held onto, which was when
Americans lend a hand to one another, nothing is impossible.

(54:57):
We're not about what happened on nine eleve. We're about
what happened on nine to twelve. That was when true
Americans showed what we're about. We were there helping each other.
We were they're holding hands where they're crying on each

(55:17):
other's shoulders. We were being real Americans.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
True.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Well, that's that's our mission and why we were blessed
that you are missed three thousand because you didn't just
do it and go on your way. You persevere and
come on and help us spread the word. So we
are embracing that right. We are doing something, we are trying,
and we are look to save today. You know, the

(55:44):
guy ran across saved the man's life. That was another
American saving another American. And that's why we're here in
the arena.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
The true definition of Americans, you know, that's what this
country was founded. People helping people, right, and and Charlie Kirk,
you know, unfortunately was taken from us far too early,
far to what what a great American, what a great patriot,
what a faithful person?

Speaker 6 (56:13):
You know.

Speaker 5 (56:14):
It just it's it's a shame that I had to
come down to that. But again, you know, it shows
what he was speaking of was the truth, and millions
of people, millions of people were touched by his words,
by his truth, by his practices.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Yeah, well we keep going.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Can't silence him.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
So absolutely cannot ray.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Each week you give us an update, and Pat's already
put his hat put a prediction in on the Live
sixty two.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Oh gosh, I you know, you're so close, but you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I hope I'm low right, you, as.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
A matter of fact, are low. Yeah, we have more, Bobby, Bobby, run,
do we have Do we have a screen? Bobby? Here?

Speaker 3 (57:05):
It comes.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
Y?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Yeah, eight fifty three, two hundred and fifty three.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Hold the phone, folks reported that number happens to be incorrect.
We have four thousand six hundred and seventy one saves night.
We had a last minute one come in that universe.
I reached out to tell me about four thousand six night.
It's time reported saves, reported saves, folks, that's three hundred.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
And twenty six.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
My daughter might be an update.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
Three hundred and twenty six days since I saved my daughter,
and in three hundred and twenty six days we have
saved one thousand, six hundred and seventy one forwarded saves.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Air horns coming up on. We're coming up on one minute.
So hey to Russia, give it.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
But what do you got? All right? Here we go.
Let me get to the highlight of the week, folks,
because it's a good one. Mom's story, uh, A twenty
month old was eating dinner on Labor Days, sitting in
her high chair. She was eating small pieces of a
case of dia, and towards the end of her meal,

(58:32):
she began to cough and gag. She was crying at
first with a wheezing sound, and then inhaled. She stopped
making sound and her face started to turn red and
then deep purple. She was pulled out of the HiPE
chair and laid on the floor. After five back blows
were given, we used the Life Act twice on her
and the second time it dislodged and she vomited quite

(58:53):
a bit. Firemen and ems arrived shortly after in evalue.
This is actually the second we've had to use life
back on her in the last ten months. She has
been referred to an urgent urgent swallow study. One week.
This device saved her life. Wow, that's it right there,

(59:15):
And now I'm obviously until on blue in the face
life back. It's better to have it and not need
it than need it and not have it. The life
you saved could be your neighbors, like.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Get out the life for your own, a.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
Family member who knows life back. God bless you, God
bless you.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Right for you, mister three thousand, everybody, and what a
great show we've talked all about, you know, the problem
and the solution that's being provided by Michelle de Jorna. Amazing,
amazing work. And we thank Betty Gupta, we thank Michelle
since del Jorna, and of course we thank mister three K.
Pat I thank you, Arthur, thank you and John Boy.

(59:56):
And now I think there is no better person to
hear from than Mike Row and.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Take us out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Take us out, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
It's no joke.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
When you choke to get life back and leave without breath,
they'll be death. To get life back and leave, Get
life back and gats life, live back, Life back, and
life back and live