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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Thank you, Hey, Welcome back in the arena. My name
is Rick Facher. Been joined of course by Patrick O'Rourke
as always, and this night a little bit of a
little bit of a has a special occasion, Ryan Roadshow
Warner in studio and Ryan had things out there on
the road.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right now, I'm off the road, but they've been good
off the road again.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And remind folks, why do we call you road show?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Road Show?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So I've been doing the Costco road shows for quite
some time. Now, I set up a table and all
the different costcos around the country and demonstrate how the
life Fact works and sell it through the Costco.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And you have an assist. Yeah, it's a couple of
weeks from now, a little bit of a tease, we're
going to have road show Ryan in studio with Angel
who saved a life and in doing large part to
the coaching that you gave him at a Costco training
here on Long Island.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Training not coaching training.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
We got to use all words.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So if you see me in a costco, come up
to me and I'll show you how the life Fact
works and you can try it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah. Not if he's just shopping though.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
If he's just shopping, yeah, if he's out of uniform, folks,
let him, let him big. It will still help on
a mission he doesn't know how not to.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Help eight beans for forty dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You know, at this portion of the show, one of
my favorites is and I know it's one of yours.
So when we talked to mister three thousand, Cape Coral, Florida,
he's coming again live from his son's high school football game.
Mister three thousand.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Right here, I am beautiful South Florida weather, getting ready
for another exciting football game. Hopefully we do a little
better on this one. I got a good feeling about it.
But uh, speaking of good feelings, let's go over some
of these numbers, because I was, I had my guests.
For those who don't know me, I'm number three, mister
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three thousand. I was the three thousands reported save. I
use the device on my daughter while driving, and that
is coming up on October, twenty days away, eleven days
away from the one year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You might make two thousand in a one year.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, we're We're gonna pick five years for that, right,
We're going.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
To be right there. I mean, it's absolutely amazing. I
was shooting. My number for the anniversary was four thousand,
eight hundred and twenty. That's what my ballpark guest was,
and I'm happy to say we're gonna beat that number
by the anniversary. So I'm really happy about that. Bobby,
do we have a we have a number? I want
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to throw that up.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
There, and as always, I'll read the number like that,
four Lives Save four thousand, eight hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Dogs, let me go two nd.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Oh, yeah, so four thousand, eight hundred and sixteen reported saves.
Let's throw that in there, because some of these saves
aren't reported. These are reported saves as of right now,
two thousand, nine hundred and thirty eight children. Uh so again,
I think we're gonna we're gonna beat my number of
four and twenty because I still have eleven more days
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and we're saving in between three, five, sometimes seven people
a day with a life back. So it's just uh,
it's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, Joe, it is. It just concerning for you at all,
mister three thousands that you didn't see us for a
little while. Now you're no, not at all, Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
We're just gonna keep rolling with it. We don't let
two bump slow us down.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The show must go on. Someone once said that show.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Must go on.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Speaking of the show must go on, let's go over
the highlight of the week, because.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It is it is like life back Save of the Week.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
On October second, a five year old boy who uses
a wheelchair at a Philadelphia school choked on a bite
of sandwich. Staff performed choking rescue procedures. Life back was
used three times and successfully dislodged the food. School staff
reported the Life Back definitely supported. The school staff is
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removing the blockage and returning airflow to the student who
was choking. Based on some previous concerns choking. Based on
some h on observational notes, we started sending to life
back to lunch with the students. So apparently they didn't
always keep it with the students during lunch. They started
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doing that for good reasons. This really assisted and made
our response time faster. Thank you, Life Back. I'll say
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It will save a life.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
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it and not have it. The life you save could
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t a man in the arena.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
And it's so worth it to have it because you know,
as a parent, we were I was put in a
situation that could have been detrimental, could have been life changing.
And uh again, life back saved my daughter's life. So
to any and every parent listening, get a life back.
It's worth it. It's worth it, It's worth the peace
of mind.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, he brought brought Ray Preby and Maya and the
rest of the family, the rest of the Previews into
our lives, and we were forever so grateful that you
join us each week and give us the updates. Can
I go back to the details of that Save of
the Week?
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And the school did not have it prior to this.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
It was set Aparently the school didn't always carry it
with the children in need, so obviously they had it available,
but they weren't carrying it with them, say, to the
lunch room. This particular day, they took it with them
to the lunch room, so they had it on hand
when the emergency happens, which obviously decreased the time the
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child went without oxygen.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah. So you know, we say, on average across the country,
it's about twenty percent of schools, which is far too.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Low, far too low.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I've had to be and we fight that every day,
and we fight it nationwide. And Arthur Lee, God bless him, he,
you know, testified before the bored in Wisconsin and offered
a Free Life Act to any school that would just
go through the trouble of contacting us and saying I
want a free life back. And now, of course we
see the great state work that Texas is doing making
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it mandatory.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
And I think Florida if Florida and every other state
needs to follow Texas in their mission, you know, keep
our children. Say wait, wait, who's that a surprise.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Visitor, Princess Maya?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Oh Isy, Hi everyone, Hey Maya, they get a life back?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, so Maya, what does Austin's team have to do
tonight to turn things around.
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To win tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
They go Baker, Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Ray absolutely, God bless you guys.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Say bye. Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's always a it's always a shot in the arm
to see Maya who who came up and watched her
father hang her picture up on the HAULI says, which
we're so blessed to be sitting in front of each
and every week. What do you guys say?
Speaker 8 (08:52):
I mean, eighteen hundred and sixteen in less than a
year or so far unbelievable, right, and which key five
or six years to get the rethousand.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It always stuck to me that in twenty sixteen was
the first year that a life was saved, and in
the entire year, the entire year, can you imagine four
that was the first year.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
I saw, I think on Facebook the other day it
was a pictures already like through the years, where eight pictures,
twenty two pictures, thirty pictures, yep, and now it's this
it's amazing right now, and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Heidi talk and that's the reported ones exactly. No one
knows better than road show, right.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I don't have my notes, Ami, but I believe the
number is up to thirty nine people that came up
to me in costcos that have used the device and
saved either themselves or one of their loved ones and
didn't report it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
So we got to keep the stats on that.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Then that number is way under.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Like googling your own name. You hate to admit it.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But come on, it's hard to you know, get to
the point where you've received this incredible information from someone
that used the life. I saved the life, and if
they didn't report it, then it's hard to get them
to do it. Now get a free life BacT. But
it actually helps save other lives, right, the information that's collected,
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whether it's the obstruction that standard protocols don't.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I'll get the word out there.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You learn it, yep, absolutely, And.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
If you don't report it, we catch you. We will
yell at you. We will. No, we won't. I'm joking,
we will never yell at you.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oh my goodness, I was looking for my outro because
we're running out of time. Listen, this has been a
great show. I thank Road Show Ryan for being here,
Powder work as always, and we were talking with Stacy
Brown and the ladies at S two C access S TWOC.
We're gonna get that right, and it's just been an
incredible show talking about raising awareness about spelling to communicate
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and no other thing than to ask micro to take
us out. Take us out.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's no joke.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
When you choke togat life back without breath, they'll be
death life backt Live.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Back and.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Life Live Back, Life Back, and.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Hey everyone, welcome back to in the Arena. I'm really
excited about tonight's episode. We've got a fantastic group joining us.
We're talking with Stacy Brown Bo's mom, Chris Elsing, who's
parent to Marissa, along with the co founders of Access
S two C Leanne Di Tomaso and Samantha poros Paris
will be joining us. They're doing incredible work helping people
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with autism and other sensorymoter differences communicate through something called
spelling to communicate. For S two C, we'll dig into
how this approach is changing lives, what inspired them to
get involved, and the powerful stories behind their mission. It's
going to be a really inspiring show and eye opening conversation.
So let's get right into it. Why not, uh, actually
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introducing you for the first time today Road Show Ryan Warner, Roadshow,
Ryan Warner is here and Pat check not on the
road right now? How how surreal is it because you
usually join us periodically from the road where you're probably
most comfortable with lifec right and now you're in the studio.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It's great to be here.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's always nice to be in studio, you know, instead
of inside of a costco where it's very noisy and
lights are bright.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
I almost don't recognize you without the ceiling of a
Costco in the background of you, you know, zooming in
on your own.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Sophie and Pat. So good to see you as always, Richard,
do you want to give us an update on your
journey my diet?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Thirty eight and a half pounds with a bullet. That's awesome. No,
I'm slowing down too much. That's awesome. Yeah, that's like
throwing a deck chair off the Queen Mary.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
You know what I'm saying, folks, But I'm getting there.
Heather says, you're not losing weight, You're dropping weight.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You're dropping Losing is a bad term.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Yes, it's a bad connotation.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Speaking of losing. I'm sorry about your both your Yankees.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
They didn't lose. They dropped the series and now they
go home for the year. They didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So listen, let's get to our first guest. Stacy Brown
is the visionary founder and Chief Belief Officer. I love
that CBO, Chief Belief Officer of Nested Hope, a nonprofit
organization dedicated to providing support for caregivers of children with
special needs. As a devoted mother herself, Stacy understands the
unique challenges and joys that come with raising a child
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with special needs. Her personal experiences have fueled her passion
for creating a community where caregivers can find resources, encouragement,
and camaraderie. Stacy Brown, are you with us?
Speaker 10 (13:32):
I'm here?
Speaker 11 (13:33):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh, thanks for being here. We appreciate you so much.
And you know, I was telling someone even though I
speak with Donnie Eisley earlier, and I said, Donna, while
I don't, you know, spend a lot of time talking
to Stacy directly. You really held my hand through my
early appearances on Shop HQ, where your testimony would be
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in every segment, and as I was nervous, Stacey, would
you would him on and talk about Bo and talk
about how life fact you know, saved him. And I
always felt like you were there kind of with me virtually.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
Oh well, thank you. I feel like we're here too much.
Though unfortunately he's a frequent flyer. Frequent flyer, yes he was,
I know he mister pride. There was a thirty thousand save.
Bo was ninety six save at.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
One point wow. Wow.
Speaker 11 (14:25):
Yeah, and then he's had multiple saves since.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So yeah, well he stands out when I go, I
writ you know, among the three thousand and you see
the the walls. I don't know if you were ever
in the hall estates, but the roof was much lower.
There were far few pictures we talked earlier about, you know,
when Heidi started who's such a you know, important part
of life fact family, I think she was looking at
sixty two pictures and to have it now, But I
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always noticed Bo's picture.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
I was there.
Speaker 11 (14:53):
I was there for the five hundred Slaves party. Bo's
pictures back there under the e and save too down.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yep, yep, that's awesome. So you know what tell everyone like,
what's the bow experience?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What's Bo like?
Speaker 11 (15:10):
Well, there's many different facets to Bo. It depends on
who he's gonna present us with. To his core, he
is a genuinely fun kid. He likes to be funny
and make people laugh. He's inquisitive, he's motivated when he
wants to be motivated. He's happy, really happy when he's happy.
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He's really angry when he's angry. He is Yeah, he
has been asking to go to school. So we've been
kind of navigating the ERP and soon to be having
our i EP meeting.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
We're going to have the life no.
Speaker 11 (15:49):
No, he's in homeschooled, yes for eleven years, yep, yep,
and he's he wants to go and have independence for
me and I'm so afraid of it because of his dyspasia.
So we're going to actually write the life back into
his IEP that it will always.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Be with him.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Do you happen to know if the school is life
fact friendly?
Speaker 11 (16:10):
I don't know. I don't know if this one is yet.
It's the mentor public school system. I'm getting there though,
because I really want to pitch that because I mean,
obviously we need it everywhere we go.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So yeah, yeah, So now you're going to turn the
topic to your foundation nested hope and I know that.
And I don't know if mister Elson Chris Elsing is
going to join us or if he's going to be
chiming in.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (16:38):
Oh, I think he should be. I don't know if
he's in the waiting room, but.
Speaker 10 (16:41):
I thought he was.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, you don't mind, let's bring Chris Elsing into
the building.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Hey, Chris, thanks for being here. I don't know. We
just heard about Bo. Tell us about Marissa.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Marissa is eleven years old.
Speaker 12 (17:00):
She's non speaking and we've been doing the spelling to
communicate for it's been about three years now.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
It's been a little over three years now.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And you see a huge difference. You know, later we're
gonna be talking to Leanne and Samantha Paris, co founders
of Access S two C. It's a lot of acronyms,
but I'll get it.
Speaker 12 (17:25):
Yeah, but hopefully I can do them justice and lead
into what they're going to tell you. But it has
been life changing for us for sure, in my entire family.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's awesome. Now I know that there's a topic and
the founding of Nested Hope was surrounding this beautiful spirit, Morgan.
If you could tell us or tell the folks about Morgan.
Speaker 12 (17:47):
So, Marisa and Morgan were like best friends and they
were actually once you once we break down what S
two C is, you'll understand. But they were communicating with
one another through emails and then we would get them
together for playdates whenever they possibly could. And then they
were both homeschooled so we did a lot of the
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same events and just we're together whenever we could. There
were two eleven year old girls that were both using
the same method to communicate.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And Bo too ye too.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (18:23):
So now you have we have like events with all
the spellers where they all all the kids get together.
It's great because it's like a relief for all of
us parents because everybody kind of understands each other and
there's no judgment. It's like a judgment free zone. So
Bo Morgan Martin, all the kids are there. It's just
it's it's the best when we can get them all together.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You know, we had Alisia Malone on and I'm sorry
to cut you off, Stacey, but we had Alisia Malone
on a couple weeks ago and we talked about this
accidental rudeness where what would you hope people in the
community would realize when you talk about, you know, being
in a judgment free zone, it doesn't have all the time.
What do you have as a message to the folks
that don't get it, don't understand, like out in public
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about what it takes for me.
Speaker 12 (19:13):
The biggest thing is that they understand everything you're saying.
They know and even if it seems like they're not
paying attention or that they don't like it, appears like
they're in their own little world or whatnot, because we
thought that for years. But that's where we were wrong.
They're not in their own little world. They're fully aware
of everything that's happening to them. So if you ignore
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them or don't say hi or say hi to other
kids around them, and like, don't, it's just it's rude.
And so that would be the thing is just freedom,
just like you would any other typical kid. And it's
a little different because you might not get the same response,
but I don't know, just put yourself out there and.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Deal with it. They got enough stuff to deal with.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Chris, it's interesting you started the conversation by say Maris
was noncommunicative.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Yeah, right, non speaking, non speaking.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'm speaking. But this, this technology or this company as
the spelling to communicate, has changed things. Right, Is this
the first time there's been better communication.
Speaker 12 (20:18):
It's the first time there's really been any accurate communication.
So for years we use something called an AAC device,
and Marissa was very sporadic on it, and it does
great for millions of kids. It's an awesome device, but
some kids struggle with it because of the motor planning
that's involved, and it's hard for them to accurately point
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to the right button, so they're not always getting what
they want, so it's not always accurate and it causes
frustration for some of these kids.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
So, long story short.
Speaker 12 (20:51):
We came across this spelling to communicate thing, and it's
basically they spell out their thoughts and feelings through a
letter board and it's more accurate because they're spelling out letters.
So long story, we started the therapy, Marissa took off
and then in about a year, through like serious motor
planning and then her practicing and working her butt off,
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we were able to get like statements from her and
find out what her true thoughts and feelings were about
certain things. So it's yeah, it's really like amazing And
just to sum up how crazy it was when we
were when before we found out about spelling to communicate,
we were learning about like barn animals like point to
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the sheep and point to the cow and stuff like that.
And then after one spelling to communicate lesson, we go
down to Florida because that was the only place at
the time where there was like, uh, active practitioners, and
they had her, they read her like a seventh grade lesson,
and she was answering. She was spelling out answers on
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the letter board about like neo R, I'm strong and stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
And we got her back at home pointing the bar
on animals.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You know.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
So it was just it just completely flipped our world
upside out because we realized she could hear everything we
were saying, and she understood and comprehended everything. So we
basically thought she had the cognitive abilities of a toddler,
but it turns out she was basically smarter than all
of us.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Definitely smarter than us, right, yes, and Stacy, how is
it for both?
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Both?
Speaker 11 (22:29):
Kind of is very similar. He's also nonverbal. I like
to call him pre verbal because I'm still hoping someday
it'll be there. But again, the spelling is a way
for him to be verbal, like Chris is explained with Marissa.
He also started therapy at four months old. He has
an AAC device too, and he leaves it behind the couch.
That's how useful it is to him. You know, it's
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very limiting. And we were homeschooling and the table work
he didn't want to do anymore because we were stuck
on three letter site words, and I thought, you know,
listening to all of his evaluations over the years from therapists,
you know, cognitively he was very very young, but so
our first experience with spelling. He was in there spelling
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the names of planets and it just blew my mind
because I mean they're more than three letters. So yeah,
they're in there.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Amazing. It's amazing to hear, you know, these two blossoming
with this new technology now. And I touched on it early.
I know it's painful, but Nested Hope was started after tragedy.
Can you explain what happened to Morgan?
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Yes, Morgan was one of our beloved spellers, and when
her mom had struggled and ended up taking Morgan's life
and then took her own, she left behind, you know,
a beautiful family consisting of grandma, grandpa and an aunt
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that are scrambling to fill find the peace. Collectively, we've
kind of brought this to them and everybody knows about
this here that's going to be on today. They've all
had a hand in planning it. But Nested Hope is
going to offer some supports to the parents so that
they can better support their children. And in trying to
figure this out, like what would Morgan's mom need? What
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did Morgan need?
Speaker 9 (24:21):
What do we need?
Speaker 11 (24:22):
Like, and this is what we're kind of doing. Had
a little bit of a health issue that's been going on,
so we haven't done a lot with it most recently,
but we'll be getting there very soon.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Oh, you're doing more than most Yeah, and how can
people help with those?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
Well, soon we're going to be turning towards the community
because it is a community project. We're looking for the
community to help the community. We're going to be looking
for funds to fuel this because we want parents to
be able to come and enjoy some camaradity just hanging
around with others that get it. We want parents to
come in too, you know, have educational classes that maybe
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they can't always get because of lack of childcare or
like vo he needs twenty four to seven care. I
always have to be with him. But a nested hope,
I'm going to hopefully provide the space where the parents
can come in have a little respite over here. The
kids are over in a gym and they're supervised and
they're safe and they're sensory seeking and going to go home.
(25:23):
I'm going to go home regulated. That's the hope. But yeah,
we're going to be looking for help. We're going to
be looking for sponsorships and fundraising and would love the
support from the community.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well you know Lifeact is in your corner.
Speaker 11 (25:37):
Yes, yes, well I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, anything that. How can folks find the Nested Hope.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Oh, please go to our website. It's Nested Hope dot org.
That's n E S T D h o PE dot org.
We're also on Facebook and Instagram as well.
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Yeah, and as Chris helping out.
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So great of course.
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Now, and we are back in the arena. My name
is Rick Fcher along with Paddle Rourke, road Show, Ryan Warner.
You guys joined the show so far.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Yes, it's interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, we're gonna be speaking coming up with the co
founders of Access S two C. Leanne Di Tomaso and
Samantha Paros will be joining us and just for your information,
if you can hear us, Chris and Stacy hang out
if you can in the waiting room and we'll bring
you on if we if you want to chime in,
(27:31):
all right, Leanne and Samantha, Hey, ladies, so great to
see you guys. I spoke to you yesterday. You're separate
now together at Access S two C.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
Thank you, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So how did you start this? How did you start
Access S two C.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Well, we'll tell a little bit of our story. I
had a friend who's was a non speaker, and I
had no idea that they were doing this, and I
knew they were going down to Florida for something. But
after almost a year, she said, I have to show
you something and brought me to her house and her
(28:17):
son was communicating.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
With me, and that hadn't happened.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
No, it was.
Speaker 9 (28:25):
Never and I knew him his whole life. He was
about I think fifteen at this time, and it was
very emotional and then he spelled out, you should do this,
and that next week I sent in my application to
be in the course.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And here right, it's an international organization. Is that true?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yes, So you get certified to teach or share spelling,
to communicate correct and.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
Yes, I am also on nurse, although I don't work
as a nurse now because we are important, extremely busy.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Here your kid whispers, you can get through the.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Kids, it's yeah, it's the best job.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Now what kind of training is involved when you get certified?
Speaker 9 (29:19):
So you have classes every other week it's online, their
live classes. A lot of we're not homework assignments that
are due every week.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You wouldn't like to hear homework that's negative, yes.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Right, assignments right, funny to find your own spellers to
work with, you send videos in. It is actually it's
a hard course, but somehow I managed while I was
no different. It was a lot though.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
It was a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, Samantha, what was your background?
Speaker 14 (30:02):
So I actually graduated high school.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
In twenty nineteen.
Speaker 14 (30:06):
Oh my god, I did not know what I wanted
to do at the time.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
I was no.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
One knows, pat you don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I still don't.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure One.
Speaker 14 (30:17):
Of my mom's best friends as a son with autism.
He actually does speak. And when I got my driver's
license I was sixteen, I would hang out with him
just as a friend. We'd go bowling, go out to dinner,
and I just loved it. It was so fulfilling being
with him, like he just made my whole month when
whenever I would see him. So I actually got certified
(30:39):
through the county so that the county can fund like
their services, and the county paid me directly. And I
met another family who was using those services who had
a boy who was fifteen. His name is Max, and
he is a noner.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
He's a non what speaker.
Speaker 14 (30:58):
Speaker, and so Max did not communicate at all. He
used minimal speech, which means like he could say words
like ask for water or if you need to go
to the bathroom, that kind of thing, but you couldn't
have a conversation with him. So his mom found out
about spelling to communicate, and there was no practitioners in
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Ohio at the time, so she invited me to go
to Chicago with them. That was the closest practitioner, and
I went not even knowing what I was walking into.
And when I saw him spelling out words that I
couldn't even spell out, I was like, I have to
do this. My mind is completely blown. So you went
(31:41):
to the training and met Leanne along the way.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
So now the two of you have this Cleveland, Ohio. Correct, Yeah,
and so nationwide? What are we talking about? Definitely a
market for it, a need for it to be growing,
Oh for sure.
Speaker 14 (31:58):
I mean there are so many kid adults that could
benefit from this. I mean we've worked with over one
hundred non speaking individuals and the results that we've seen
are just crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So we're talking Cleveland, Ohio, I think our nearest market
that this show airs in.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Of course, it's.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Available always on YouTube and Facebook on the Life bac Usa,
but we also go out nationwide San Diego, Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York here and then Allentown, PA. I guess is
probably the most we're going.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
To get in the Midwest.
Speaker 10 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yes, How can folks that that you know want to
reach out to you? How do they get in touch?
Speaker 10 (32:40):
So for us, we have a website.
Speaker 14 (32:42):
It's www dot Access.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
So I'll spell it out.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I love the fact. I love the fact that you,
as a young person, says www as I do. I
feel silly when I do it, but you make me
feel so much better. You know what, do you know
what w w W stands for? No Web Worldwide Web.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
That's because I'm old, but.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I interrupted, I apologize.
Speaker 14 (33:12):
So it's www dot I'm gonna spell it out A C, C,
E S S S, the number two and the letter
C dot com. We're also on Facebook and social media
as access S T C.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
And do your communities know about your appearance here tonight
in the arena?
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Not ye?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So yeah, we're gonna ask when it goes out. So
we're live on Facebook, live on YouTube, and you'll be
able to you know, see that and share it with
your audiences. But also again out on the radio nationwide. Uh,
I think next weekend, so cool.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
Yeah, our goal is to spread the word about spelling
to communicate. There are other practitioners in other states, not
just Ohio. But you're more than welcome to reach out
to us and we can help you find somebody that's
closer to you as well.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah. Now you know Bow and Marissa. Yeah, big smiles
for those listening, big two big smiles coming. Let me
mention and Stacy's you know, we were on with Stacy
and Chris Elsing, Stacy Brown and Chris Elsing, and you
know they've seen, you know, near miraculous improvements in the communication.
(34:26):
Do you see that? Is it almost across the board
with the people that you come in contact with.
Speaker 9 (34:31):
Yes, we haven't found anybody that it does not work
with the time. The time that it takes to get
to what we call open communication, which means having conversations
can differ from everybody. Chris had mentioned Marissa in about
(34:54):
a year was able to do that, but some take longer.
It could be two years, it can be four years.
It takes a lot of practice, and a lot of
practice at home as well.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah. Now is it funded the visits. Is it something
that insurance will pay for?
Speaker 9 (35:10):
No, unfortunately they won't. There are some scholarships available. Actually,
Chris's wife and another mom set up a foundation and
we help them raise money for that and they give
out scholarships.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So that I would imagine a barrier in some cases.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
For sure for some family. Yeah, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, but both your hearts are certainly in the right place.
And at what point along though, you mentioned along the
way you two came in contact during the training or afterwards?
It was obviously you're also close together.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Yes, I think was I done?
Speaker 10 (35:56):
I don't think you were done.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I think I was almost done with the training.
Speaker 14 (36:00):
We met, we met through mutual people and now we're
best friends.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And how large is the staff? Is it just the
two of you in Cleveland?
Speaker 14 (36:13):
No, we have a pretty big staff now. So we're
coming on three years. It's us two and then we
have two. We have a practitioner now we have one
in training. We have a lady who actually does adaptive
personal training to work on like gross motor skills, like
bigger skills for these kids, which is very helpful.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
For noncommunicative Yes.
Speaker 14 (36:39):
Yes, and we actually just announced that we're opening up
our second location in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
And when does that? When when do you break around?
Speaker 9 (36:52):
We have a practitioner in training there right now. She
will be finished in March. So that's when she.
Speaker 8 (37:03):
Had a non speaking child, right he does. Yes, I
was reading about her on Facebook. Oh nice, I sent
the lamb in the side shots the rest you.
Speaker 14 (37:13):
Yeah, she's a photographer, so she already had her pictures.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Got to get the angles. Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Now you may have mentioned it, ladies, uh in the beginning.
But how long is the training and if folks are
interested in, you know, getting involved, getting training, getting an
access well access s S two C would be yours.
But they're spelling to communicate opportunities. Again, I don't know
what the numbers are across the country, but it sounds
(37:41):
like there's not a lot of people doing what you're doing.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
No, there's not. They can go to it's i dash
a sc dot org, it's i ask we call it,
and that's where you can find how you can apply
for the training, and a whole lot of other information
about spelling to communicate.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
I want to say it's around eight months.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Eight months, and is there a significant costs associated with
the training.
Speaker 10 (38:16):
I'm not sure what it is now.
Speaker 14 (38:18):
It could have gone up from when we did it
a couple of years ago, but I'd say it's definitely
probably under like actually.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
It's yeah, I think it's thirty five hundred.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Now, okay, yeah, very reasonable.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
There out of than college.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
I hate.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
You know, I'm going to put you on the spot
land more rewarding than I don't know what type of
nurse you were or where you were nursing, but.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Well I was a laborer delivery.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I was a.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Labor and delivery.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
For twenty five years.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
It's a lot of screaming.
Speaker 9 (38:58):
It was. It was very rewarding. But I mean, I'm
sure a lot of nurses say there's some burnout there
and this this is just I love coming here every day.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Love your job. You'll never work a day in your life.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Do you have any relatives on Long Island.
Speaker 9 (39:17):
Leanne where long ago? I don't.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
I don't know a family named d Tomaso from from
former you know what.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
There might be. I mean, I'm married, so it's my
husband's less but maybe actually.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You know, I thought of the same young man that
went to it, played at Hopkins right.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
La and played the USA team, but he had two
brothers too, all really good players.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Tomasos. I didn't like them, played against them.
Speaker 9 (39:43):
I'll have to ask.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, we were rivals. Do you have anything coming up? Oh,
we have a groundbreaking in Columbus coming on.
Speaker 14 (39:55):
We try to host community events for our families. That
was our biggest goal when start this is to build
a community here. So it's like one big family when
you're here.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Speaking of family, I don't know if it's technically possible,
but Bobby, can we bring if Stacey's still there and
Chris Elsing is still there, can we have them all
in Bobby, there's Chris Elsing and Stacy Brown joining the
ladies and Samantha Paris obviously, just a reminder for the
(40:29):
folks that are listening. We spoke to Stacy Brown and
Chris Elsing earlier. They are big fans of Lean de
Tomaso and Samantha Paris's work. Access s two C spelling
to communicate, so they mentioned family and go ahead.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
I just want to say that we have had years
of therapy bo Is eleven. I'm sure Chris and Jessica
did that with Ris as well. But what these two
ladies do outside of the office is what makes them
so special.
Speaker 10 (41:01):
I just have to say it.
Speaker 11 (41:01):
They don't often, you know, They're just like, this is
just what I do. I just love it. No, it
makes our worlds better. Just we're taking that extra time
and bringing us all together. It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, Chris, I know you concurring, nodding in agreement.
Speaker 12 (41:19):
You love these two and yes, well, and that's what
kind of a piggyback on what stage?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
He did?
Speaker 9 (41:28):
You know?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
One second, Chris, we had who was the Joe Piscopo
was on the show recently and his famous comedian in
his car driving You're the second guest that we've had
actually driving the car.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
I'm not driving, I'm in the passenger. I got stuck
at work. I'm sorry. Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Okay, we can hear your fine, and it's totally okay. Yeah,
we did have a in a canoe.
Speaker 12 (42:00):
But the piggyback on what Stacey was saying over there
is uh mean and Samantha go above and beyond with
the events, and then they go to like the baseball
games when Marissa plays in America League and they show
up and they're just uh, they're there, and it make
sure that the community and that goes all.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
They Wow, listen, can you if you guys can stick
around and we're gonna take a quick break, be back
with more. Stacy Brown, Chris Elsing and the co founders
of Access s to c Leandy Tomasso and Samantha Paris
spelling getter.
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Speaker 2 (43:15):
It is amazing and we're back in the arena. My
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Speaker 11 (43:23):
By I don't know if you can hear what's going on. Yeah,
that's both autism speaks like so I'm gonna say thanks
for having me and I'll let them.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Oh, Stacey, awesome, So thank you so much for joining
us in best of luck with Nested, hope anything we
can do from the life back family to yours.
Speaker 10 (43:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (43:44):
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Speaker 2 (43:45):
All right, So Chris says, maybe not joining us, so
we have Lean de Tomaso still in Samantha join us. Paros?
Is that how you pronounce paros? Paros?
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Can you roll it like paros?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I heard so many stories about this young man's Spanish
class in high school.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
All you have to say spell the word socks and
it sounds like you're speaking Spanish.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
So.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
You can do with anything. Rocks r c K S.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Was that the class that you were asked to move
your chair?
Speaker 4 (44:22):
It was? We're getting off track.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, but ladies, amazing work you're doing. And we had,
you know, two testimonials. Couldn't speak greater things about both
of you and and how you're helping their kids communicate.
Is it again? I asked you before? But it's across
the board. You haven't had like life act. We don't
deal with failure, you know, right, pushing it going, You.
Speaker 9 (44:47):
Just keep, you keep practicing, you keep The whole thing
was spelling is it is a motor skill. So instead
of using your fine motor of speech or writing, your
using a gross motor skill. So your arm is moving
forward to point at letters. The more you work at that,
you're teaching the brain and it becomes an automatic. So
(45:11):
it's just a matter of a lot of practice, a
lot of In.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
The beginning is it is it like just the letters
and this is a B and then how does it
Actually it's not, it's worse.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Well.
Speaker 9 (45:24):
So one thing that is really big and spelling to
communicate is presuming competence. Meaning when someone walks in our doors,
we presume whatever age they are, they know they know
information that is appropriate for their age. So we don't
teach people the letters. They already know the letters. So
(45:47):
we will read a lesson and we will start asking questions,
and I mean, it's it's definitely deeper than that. In
the beginning, there's some prompting because there's a lot of
motor difficulties. You know, their eyes sometimes they have vision
issues and so but we always zoom that they understand
(46:10):
and know age appropriate material.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Well that's what Christmas talking about.
Speaker 8 (46:14):
He assumed that his child was stuck at a certain
level and then is realized, Oh my, he so far advanced.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
They know much more than we thought.
Speaker 8 (46:22):
Oh yeah, that must be a great moment you figure
that out, right, I mean, oh for sure.
Speaker 9 (46:26):
I mean we there's many tears, happy tears in our office.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Yeah, there's a lot of fan teers in our office.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
But it's a whole you mean, the whole Christmas party thing,
you mean, the sell thing.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
Yes, but you girls look like I mean, don't they
look like the nicest people?
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Let up, they're doing God's work. Keep going.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
How funny is it Leanne to see someone in Samantha
that is at the beginning and didn't know what she was,
you know, talks about not knowing what she wants to
do and found something so rewarding so young.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
I mean that it's amazing. By the way, Oh thanks,
I could be her mother, but we won't.
Speaker 10 (47:09):
Will pretend.
Speaker 9 (47:12):
It's like, it's really amazing that she found it, because
it's hard, you know, when you have a job for
so long and then you're like, I'm just going to
switch careers. It wasn't I mean, it kind of was
an easy step for me. I felt like it was time.
But it's it's great.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's just enough time in the nursing was that the
direct job you went right from the delivery room to
spelling to communicate and access is to C and is
it is it necessary for you to start a franchise
or a business like access S two C H to
do this work or can it be incorporated into a
(47:51):
larger healthcare organization?
Speaker 9 (47:54):
You know right now it's not in anything like that.
So anybody that goes through training either starts their own
practice or tries to find a practice to work for.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, remind us remind our listeners again how to if
there's an interest in a getting spelling to communicate lessons
for their child, or someone wants to become uh is
it an instructor.
Speaker 10 (48:22):
Or practitioner practitioner?
Speaker 2 (48:26):
How does someone become a practitioner? And how does someone also?
Speaker 14 (48:29):
I asked, Yes, it's ida ASC dot org. And then
they're always welcome to contact us too. We've had people
from all over the world contact us looking for practitioners.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
And has any of it done? Can any of it
be done virtually or is it all in person?
Speaker 9 (48:50):
Do you want me it can be? I feel like
what we have found is you really need to get
several sessions under your belt before where we go virtually,
even our practitioner and training in Columbus, they would drive
to us and I would see their son and it
was probably not until eight months in that. Now I'll
(49:12):
do zoom sessions with them because they know how to
do it, so we have to be able to teach
the parent. It's it's not impossible to just do it virtually,
but it's much easier if you can find someone in person.
Speaker 10 (49:25):
That's why when.
Speaker 9 (49:26):
People reach out to us, we do the searching and
we find people for them.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
Well, like anything, anything in person better personal obviously, it's better.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
You got to build that.
Speaker 10 (49:39):
Trust then you can do exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, even though we connect very well virtually with our
guests often it's always great.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
When be in at studio.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
It's great to be in the studio, but we realized
being from Cleveland, it's a little prohibitive it.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
I dropped my daughter off at Michigan State this year
and we had to drive from Cleveland middle lot of
a night.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
I didn't really stop in, but otherwise that's all.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
That was a rock and roll Hall of Fame. Yeah, right, yes, yes,
I have.
Speaker 14 (50:10):
Have you been to any of the costcos in Cleveland?
Unfortunately not Okay, my mom works at one of them.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So I was like, oh, yeah, so Road Show, how
many states have you covered so far? It was preempted momentarily.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Seven states so far? Okay, Texas and mostly East, so
like New York, East Jersey.
Speaker 4 (50:35):
Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
New Jersey, York, Virginia.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
Accent gets worse.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
And did I say Massachusetts?
Speaker 4 (50:46):
Don't say Massachusetts, Boston, Samantha.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
We know the owner and we know the people that
are strategically planning out Ryan's next stop. So where is
the Costco that your mom works at.
Speaker 10 (50:58):
It's in Mayfield Heights. Oh, Hi.
Speaker 8 (51:01):
Fields, There is Cleveland Heights Toold Heights, but there's I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Afraid you'd help make Road Show feel welcome if you
came to Mayfield Heights right, Oh yes, and what capacity
does your mom? Okay?
Speaker 14 (51:23):
But she is one to make friends with everybody, so.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
Yeah, exactly, like everyone's so nice on this show. It's unbelievable.
You would hate us if you came in studio.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
From a from a competitive standpoint, and the fans standpoint,
sports standpoint. We're used to more adversity and people at
each other's throat New York is too mean trouble. That's
why I have I'm starting this new message of one love,
and that's my answer.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
We can't even have a golf tournament. No, we yell
at you.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Did you see ladies? Did you see the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 3 (52:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (52:02):
No, too busy doing God's work. Thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
It was the major tournament that was here, Europeans against
the US, and we embarrassed ourselves as New York fans.
I say we loosely because it was it was really
pathetic some of the behavior and other Let's be honest,
Philadelphia doesn't have the greatest reputation in some football state.
Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (52:24):
But len so like when you had epiphany and you
wanted to do this, like was your family supportive?
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Your husband?
Speaker 9 (52:30):
Would they like, yeah, yeah, my husband said whatever. He
always says, whatever you want to do, honey.
Speaker 4 (52:38):
Men say they don't mean it, but that's what they said.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (52:41):
It's really nice because he does tell me now all
the time. He's like, I'm just so proud of you, Like,
look what you did.
Speaker 5 (52:47):
You know we.
Speaker 9 (52:48):
Started our first well, I was working in my basement.
Then when we opened our first office, we only had
two rooms in it. Then we moved and had three
rooms and then not even a year later we're in
our news space where we have five rooms in a gym.
So all of that in three years.
Speaker 14 (53:09):
Yeah, with no business background.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
Yes, it's fantastic, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Just really really as wow, incredible conversation. A huge thank
you to Stacy Brown, Chris Elsing, and the co founders
of access S two C Leandy Tomaso and Samantha Paros
for joining us today and sharing their insight and passion.
If you want to learn more about their work, check
out access s two C online and see how they're
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helping individuals find their voice through spelling to communicate. And
as always, thank you for listening and being part of
the in the Arena community where we celebrate people who
step up, take action, and make a difference. Until next time,
pat Ryan, keep showing up, keep learning and one love,
great job, keep up. Thank you, Stacy, Do Do Do,
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Do Do Do.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
It's no joke.
Speaker 6 (54:03):
When you choke to get life back and leave without breath,
they'll be death to get life back and leave, get
life back and gets life, lie back life and life
back and live