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December 13, 2024 56 mins
Air Date - 11 December 2026

Join Inspired Living Host Marc Lainhart – The Intuitive Prospector™ this “Wisdom Wednesday” as we welcome back to the show former health lawyer, litigator, and best-selling author of several popular spiritual books, including ‘Answers From The Afterlife,’ Ms. Nanci Danison, to discuss her new book, ’33 Souls Who Met God – Accounts of Atheists, Buddhists, and Christians Who Died and Met the Same God.’

“I returned from death to share new truths I learned in the afterlife.” -Nanci Danison

Nanci’s new book differs from the traditional near-death experience model of our expanded afterlife experiences. 33 Souls provides quotes written in the words of the experiencers themselves that consistently confirm that God is nothing like a human, we do not continue to be human in the afterlife, the purpose of Creation is for Source to experience physical world life through us, we do not have to earn our way to heaven by following church-established rules, death only applies to the bodies we inhabit, we are eternally safe and loved, and so much more. I think it will bring you incredible comfort and joy.

“What happens when a near-death experiencer is not stopped by a barrier or being from progressing further into the afterlife? 33 Souls who found out have returned to reveal the mind-blowing wonders and surprises of what we call God and the afterlife.” -Nanci Danison

JOIN US for another inspiring, educational, healing, and transformative show! Let us go “PROSPECTING!”

About Nanci Danison
I have published five books, 20 CDs and DVDs, a monthly free electronic newsletter article answering my readers’ questions, and twenty-some YouTube videos. The Workshops tab details some of my workshops and upcoming radio show interviews. I went into the Light as a semi-practicing Catholic and returned with all my beliefs turned upside down and backward. 

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to Inspired living with Mark Lainhart, the Intuitive Prospector.
Every Wednesday, Mark, along with his special guests, will explore
thought provoking topics and ideas that promote creativity, self help, healing,
happiness and well being to inspire you on your spiritual journey.
Each week, Mark will discuss different paths to achieving a

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more spiritual, balanced, happy, and healthy lifestyle. Topics will elevate
consciousness and range from metaphysics, to the human and social
experience and all things spiritual. Welcome to an inspired community
that offers support, encouragement, and new ways of thinking. Mark
is a tested, certified and professional spiritual medium, metaphysical teacher, healer,

(00:58):
and spiritual advisor with a spiritual practice based in Seattle, Washington.
You are the inspired and the inspiration.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Death is not an ending, but a symbol of movement
along the path upon which we are all traveling. As
it may be painful to lose contact with the physical
aspect of one we love, the spirit can never be lost.
We have been and always will be a part of
each other. And that's the quote from the late Great
John Denver, who tragically passed away at the age of

(01:30):
fifty three in an airplane crash and want to just
open up our show because we're gonna have an amazing
show here on Inspired Living. So good morning, good afternoon,
and good evening wherever you may be in this magical, magnanimous, magnificent, majestic, marvelous, metaphysical, miraculous,
mind awakening, mind boggling and mind blowing planet of ours.

(01:51):
This is Inspired Living Radio, where we like to say
where you are the inspired and the inspiration. So let's
be inspired, let's inspire others's inspired before we expire. I
am your host, Mark Lainhart, the Intuitive Prospector, here with
you yet again for another soul adventure and an inspiring
episode to explore, discuss, and discover the many diamonds within

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each and every one of us, and the many gems
in our world that have yet to be revealed. So
get comfortable, grab your favorite drink, kick back, sit back,
or lie back, take in a nice, deep, healing, peaceful
and cleansing breath, and let us prospect and learn together
as we're going to discuss today's show topic, which is
a new book from a guest who has been on

(02:34):
the show. It's been about four years, Nancy Danison, and
she's written a new book called thirty Three Souls Who
Met God, accounts of Atheists, Buddhists, and Christians who died
and met the same God. We had Nancy on about
four years ago, right as the pandemic was I think unraveling.
In twenty twenty, if I remember correctly, I think that's
what my team told me, and we did an episode

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on her best selling book, Answers from the Afterlife, and
it was one of our more popular or episodes that
we've done here in the nine seasons of Inspired Living.
So we wanted to bring her back and not only
promote her new book, but dig deeper into this this
this title of thirty three Souls Who Met God, especially
with accounts from atheist, Buddhists and Christians who died and

(03:16):
met the same God. So we're going to have that
as our show topic today and journey on the many
pathways of life to dream, discover, explore, and experience what
I like to say through body, mind and spirit for
another inspiring, uplifting and educational episode. We do always want
to give a big shout out and thank you to
all of our Inspired listeners from around the globe, the

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universe and beyond. My team and I here in Inspired
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new day, a new opportunity, a day we've not seen before,

(05:01):
to use our intuition to prospect this wonderful world around us.
Are we ready to go prospecting? I think that we
are so. Like I said today, our guest is coming back.
It's been a few years and we had her on
with one of our more popular podcasts called the Books.
She wrote Answers from the Afterlife. But now on this episode,
we're going to dig deeper and go prospecting for thirty

(05:22):
three Souls who Met God and Nancy's new book is
It Differs. It differs from the traditional near death experience
model of our expanded afterlife experiences, the thirty three Souls
provides quotes written in words of the experiences themselves that
consistently confirm that God is nothing like human, We do
not continue to be human in the afterlife, and the

(05:43):
purpose of creation is for source to experience the physical
world life through us. We do not have to earn
our way to heaven by following church established rules. Death
only applies to the bodies reinhabit. We are eternally safe
and loved and so much more. And I think you'll
enjoy this book when it comes. And I open on
our page, I have a quote from Nancy and she

(06:03):
says this quote, what happens when a near death experiencer
is not stopped by a barrier or being from progressing
further into the afterlife. Thirty three souls who found out
have returned to reveal the mind blowing wonders and surprises
of what we call God and the afterlife. End quote,
And just a little bit more about Nancy. Before retirement,

(06:23):
she was a practicing health lawyer and former lirligator for
thirty six years, first with the prestigious Midwest two hundred
and seventy Attorney Regional law firm, and then a solo practitioner.
She was listed from nineteen ninety eight to twenty twenty
in the Bar Register of Premier Lawyers, a listing of
the five percent of the US attorneys voted by their
peers to have a quote A level legal skills in

(06:48):
very high ethics end quote. She was also named to
Central Ohio's Top Lawyers for two thousand and nine through
twenty twenty in the practice areas of Medicare, Medicaid law,
and health care by Columbus CEO Magazine. In nineteen ninety eight,
she was a Who's Who in America Law, recognized for
leadership and competency. Now, she devotes a significant amount of

(07:12):
her time disseminating the spiritual information that she gained during
a very extensive afterlife experience which followed her death in
March of nineteen ninety four through anaphylactic shock during an
invasive radiological procedure, and several brief subsequent afterlife visits since then.
To date, Nancy has published five books, twenty CDs and DVDs.

(07:35):
She offers a monthly free electronic newsletter article that answers
reader's questions, and she has some twenty some YouTube videos
that you can check out on her YouTube channel, some
of her workshops and some upcoming radio shows and interviews.
She'll get into more details on her workshops tab later
in the show. And then she went into the light

(07:56):
as a semi practicing Catholic, and returned with all the
beliefs turned upside down and backwards. Nothing I experienced or
learning in the after life confirmed any of my former
parentheses kind of scary religious beliefs, the human origin of
which she witnessed the form of a documentary type review
which is interesting on Earth's history. In its place, she

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was given a much simpler, kinder, more loving, but completely
unlike human thinking explanation of God and Source and its
purpose for creating the universe. At the end of my
life changing sojourn into the light, she voluntarily bless her
returned to human life to share the information that she
had gained a few months after her return, she left

(08:38):
the security of her big law firm and set up
her own firm so that she'd have more freedom to
both practice law and bring forth more spiritual messages. Surviving
death erased her fears of death, and so she started
doing the things fear had always held her back from
doing and joining, including getting a private pilot's license when
she was fifty, and she became a private detective at

(09:01):
fifty five, and her beyond death experiences provided her with
a unique opportunity to view human life from the perspective
of one who has transformed into a being of light,
and like beings of light, other near death experiences encounter.
If you want to learn more about Nancy after the show,
you can go to a few different websites, and we

(09:22):
have all this posted on our Facebook, Instagram and Twitter pages.
If you want to learn more, but Nancy Danison dot com,
or you can go to where her books are at
Backwards Books dot com. And with that, let's jump right
into this episode. Nancy, welcome back to Inspired Living. How
are you.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm great, Thank you so much. Mark, I'm so happy
to be here.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, we're happy to have you back. And like I
said this, I think it was twenty twenty, right before
COVID or as COVID was either hitting or the world
was changing with this global pandemic. And the first book
that you well, maybe not the first book, but one
of the five books that you written, Answers from the Afterlife.
I still have it here in my bookshelf. That was
a very popular show with our listeners. And so when

(10:07):
we came across this new book that you've written and
is coming out, let's explore some of the concepts and
maybe even touch a little bit on what we talked
about last time, answers from the afterlife, or anything I
may have missed in your bile.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Okay, I don't want to talk about me because I'm
not important. The only thing important in my life is
the message is that I have brought back from the afterlife.
And you know, Mark, having heard you pieces and parts
of my afterlife experience the last time, I have spent
the past thirty years searching for others like me, other

(10:46):
souls that had the same or similar afterlife experience and
learn the same things. Well, I finally knuckled down and
did some concentrative research and I found thirty two others.
So we are the thirty three souls who had what

(11:06):
I found I find to be the closest to the
experience that I had. And my book isn't ready to
come out yet. It's still in it's stuck in the
design phase. There should be out in January.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, the editing process is always so slow, and yeah,
you just gotta you gotta have patience for that editing
process to get done. So I'm just curious, Nancy, is
the number thirty three specific or is that just how
many people you found?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's the many people I found. I reviewed about two
thousand near death experience accounts, you know, accounts that were
labeled as near death experiences, either online or in research
books or in the individual author's books. But I found
most of my thirty three souls in the Near Death
Experience Research Sounds database, which is online, and so using

(12:05):
my figures, I calculate about one point four percent of
those who die actually have what I call an expanded
afterlife experience and actually meet God. The rest clearly have
in your death experience, but they just didn't progress this far.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Okay, Yeah, And the reason I'm asking for thirty three
is as a numerologist, thirty three is a master number
and it's often referred to as the cosmic parent as
a thirty three. Yeah, it's an octave number of six,
which also refers to compassion. But the thirty three energy
or the number is all about the cosmic parent of

(12:50):
the world that raises the vibration of humanity through service, creativity,
and compassion. So that's why I was curious if thirty
three was intentional or thirty three just ended up being
the Because I always look in this world. I always
look for the signs the symbols, the synergy and the synchronicity.
So that was my first question for you, was was
it based on the master number of thirty three or
as you just said, it was just based off the

(13:12):
two thousand people you went through in thirty three of
them made it into your book.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Well Mark, the funny thing is I had the whole
book written with thirty two souls and then at the
last minute I found another one decided to go back
and revise the whole book to add a thirty third soul.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So yeah, yeah, the things that make you go for sure,
because again, there is no thirty two in numerology. It's eleven,
twenty two, and thirty three that are the master numbers
of the index. So you're doing you're lining, whether you
knew it or not, You're lining to that spiritual consciousness
of evolution and transformation and ascension that we always talk about.

(13:50):
And I think that's fantastic. So tell us a little
bit about you did this research in this database and
you found these people because your book talks about all believers, Atheists, Buddhists,
and Christians and you, yourself, like me, were raised as Catholics.
Uh not. I don't practice Catholicism anymore. I was like
to say, I'm recovering Catholic, but talk a little bit

(14:12):
about those because those are pretty different beliefs from Atheists,
Buddhist Christians in Catholicism.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, and they were actually more there. I think there
was maybe one person who claimed to be agnostic, one
or two atheists. There were a couple of Hindus in there,
all different types of Protestants from you know, moderate to
traditional to people called themselves Christian seekers. You know, everyone

(14:40):
really had a different description of their religious background, except
the Catholics. They also just said there were Catholics, and
there was one Native American who believes in Taoism. And
a lot of the people really had I guess I

(15:04):
would say self tailored belief you know. They they didn't
seem to be very dogmatic, except with this one wonderful
woman who was a Catholic pastoral counselor and you know,
I had a degree and you know, Catholic studies, and

(15:24):
she was pretty traditional in her Catholic beliefs until she
got into the afterlife. Kind of like me, her beliefs
were blown apart.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's like, hello, not not what we were taught Yeah,
it's you know, just my own experience with what I
you know, encountered in a river accident. I didn't have
any of the white tunnel, the you know, the white light,
I just had. I was trapped underwater, and I just
had an experience where I was just at peace and
just could see myself, you know, rising up looking back

(15:53):
at myself. And then for some strange reason, I guess
I had more work to do here. I popped down
into my body and I popped up after being you know,
pinned under a log in the river. And so it's
always kind of stuck with me. And it wasn't you know,
any big grandiose. It was just a piece that I
had a peace and the love that I had never
felt before, and it was it was temporary. But you know,

(16:14):
somebody call that an obe and out of body experience
or an ND based on you know, what we experience,
because we are the son of our experiences, right and
you know, for our listeners out there, they may not
understand what the difference is between an end and an
afterlife experience. Do you want to touch on that?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, I kind of look at it as a continuum
of experiences, you know, the first aspect, or the first
stage of a near death experience is getting out of body.
And of course I'm sure you're listening to No you
can get out of body without being close to death,
but those who are actually close to death or who
have died do get out of body first, which you

(16:57):
know itself is mind blowing because it proves that consciousness
and personality survives death. The next phase is well, ill
a crossing over stage where the soul goes through you know,
maybe they go through a tunnel, but that's not really

(17:17):
a major feature of most and the ease. But they
go through some kind of transition, you know, a portal
or an entrance or something that lets them know they're
leaving human life behind and going into another state of existence.
So I call that the crossing over phase. And so
far you have out of body and the crossing over.
People have what I call the near death experiences. When

(17:41):
you get into the light itself, or you go through
that portal or that entrance or that doorway, then you're
in the afterlife. And that I have divided the afterlife
experiences into two buckets. One or the threshold what I
call threshold after life experiences. Those are the ones who
you know, go into the line or go through the portal,

(18:03):
and they are there long enough to have a life review.
You know many of them. Either they might meet deceased
family members or relatives or friends. They might see earth
like scenery. I find it very rare that an after
life experience doesn't meet a being of light. So most

(18:25):
threshold experiences meet a being of light and then kind
of like the last step in that threshold phase is
having a life review. And the life review is generally
just you know, like what you hear your life lashly
before your eyes. It's the ass of the life review.
If you continue to be in the after life, that

(18:46):
the what I call an expanded after life experience starts
the threshold. The dividing line between the threshold and the
and the expanded after life experience seems to be a barrier,
like dational mere death experience in research describes some kind
of a barrier or a boundary or a border or

(19:10):
you know, sometimes like the soul will see a bridge
that they can't cross or a stream that they can't cross,
but it's something that stops the soul from going further
into the afterlife, or maybe the light being with them,
says you know, it's not your time. You know, you've
got to go back, or for some reason they're brought back,

(19:32):
you know, maybe they're resuscitated by medical personnel. Sometimes their
souls are actually called back out of the bliss of
the afterlife by their relatives and loved ones begging them
not to go. That I find out to be a
very disturbington because I begged my mother not to go,
and I didn't realize what I was doing, you know.

(19:55):
But then if you if you don't hit that barrier
or that boundary or nobody tells you, you know, you got
to turn around and go back, then you go on
into you know, the deeper recesses of the afterlife and
have all the wild adventures that my thirty three souls did,
one of which is getting to actually meet, recognize, and

(20:18):
meld into what humans call God or Yahweh or Allah
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
And what was that like? That experience? It is to
describe it.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It took me three chapters to describe it in the
words of the thirty three souls. The first you know it,
these thirty three souls, we were trying to describe something
unknown to human life. They're little are no words created

(21:02):
in human language and any any language mhm that really
convey the accuracy and the truth and the and the
the bliss and the sublime in inite majesty of what
we met. So various souls described it in different ways,

(21:23):
all of which seemed to me to be centered around
some kind of an energy pattern. Like some described it
as a river, like a sparkling river, or a galaxy,
or a cosmos full of stars, or a force field

(21:43):
of love. I love that one guy called it, called
it a force field of love. But it's all some
kind of a power or something that wasn't in physical
form but yet had movements and was changing as it went,

(22:03):
as it flowed like a river, or as it spun
around in the cosmos. But each soul that saw what
they're trying to describe as source recognize that that's what
it was. And this what I call the source phenomenon
didn't have any human characteristic sall. And none of the

(22:27):
thirty three souls saw religious figures or you know, icons
from their religion or lack of religion, right right.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
No, that's that's fascinating to me because it just I
always tried to you know, when I'm interviewing people trying
to get them to explain something that it sometimes is unexplainable.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
But I like how you put like the river of life, right.
We always hear about the river life, river of life
in many both religious and spiritual contexts. And then you
said the universe like a gallaxy, see which Carl Sagan
always said that we were stardust and we return, you know,
as stardust, we returned to that source, that that collective energy.
And I was just thinking when you were talking about

(23:10):
trying to describe this, you know, meeting God compared to
what we're taught in in you know, religion. The movie
I don't know if you ever saw the movie Contact
with Jodie Foster when she gets whisked away through through
a portal and she said, you shouldn't have sent a scientist,
you should have sent a poet to describe what she
was trying to explain that she was seeing with her

(23:32):
own experience. And that's kind of where when you were talking,
that's kind of what it reminds me of, like you
you almost need a poet to try to describe, you know,
what it is that you're experiencing and what we call
you know, what we try to understand is God. But
I don't believe that we truly have an understanding of
what God really is. We have a lot of books
and a lot of references, but you know, God is

(23:54):
also made by man. If you did a timeline, I've
got a little bit later in the show. I've got
a timeline of when you know how long the earth
has been around and what religious traditions started creating their
image of God. In christianityes, you know, only about two
thousand years. You know, you can go you know, farther
down into the more older religions, but still about six
thousand years. But the Earth has been around for you know,

(24:16):
the galaxy has been around for thirteen billion years. So
that's just And I was curious in the when you
did die in March of was that eighty four? Did
I read that four ninety four? Thank you when you
came back. I'm just curious because I always talk about
time is not relevant. On the other side, how long
were you gone in the physical incarnate of the where

(24:38):
you were in the hospital. Do you know how long
you were gone by minutes? Just curious?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Well I didn't until recently. And finally the hospital where
I died released my medical records to me. Oh they
would not. Yeah, they would not give them to me.
And when I got them, I noticed that a lot
of them were altered. They said, corrected in some month

(25:01):
in two thousand and eight, which was after my first
book came out.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, So one of them says that putting together the
time that the radiologists and the radiology technician left and
when they came back with a half an hour, and
I was dead shortly after they left, and I came
back into the body after they came back.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Okay, so about thirty minutes maybe give or take.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Interesting. So the reason I'm asking that because here in
this timeline, time is not relevant in the spiritual side, right,
and so thirty minutes here. But how long do you
feel like you were on the other side having your
expanded afterlife experience? Would you say, did it feel like days?
Did it feel like weeks? Did it feel like months
versus thirty minutes of you know, being decarnated on the

(25:52):
other side.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Those feelings don't exist in the afterlife. I lived there,
I mean, I lived as a being of light, live
through several stages of eternal life in but you know
there's no feeling like you know how much time has passed?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Right right? Okay, I love it. Well, we're going to
go to our only break of this show, and when
we come back here in two minutes, we're going to
pick up this conversation and keep diving deeper into the afterlife.
And our special guest today Nancy Danison, talking about her
new book thirty three Souls Who Met God, accounts of Atheists, Buddhists,
and Christians who died and made the same God. We'll

(26:32):
be right back here on Inspired Living.

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Inspired Livying. When I open up the second half of
the show with a quote from Stephen Christopher who reminds
us quote death is not the end. It's simply walking

(29:43):
out of the physical form and into the spiritual realm,
which is our true home. It's going back home end quote.
So Nancy, welcome back. I want to read one of
your quotes as well, because you said this that we
put out on our Facebook page quote I returned from
death to share new truths I learned in the afterlife

(30:03):
end quote. So tell us a little bit about the afterlife.
We just talked about time not being relevant. You were
living there, you didn't you know? Did you realize that
you had died on the other side? Had that? Had
that crossed your mind while you were having your expanded
afterlife experience? Did you did somebody tell you that? Did
you know that?

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Not for a long time. But don't let me forget.
I want to tell you the other two parts of
the description of God that the Thirty three Souls brought back.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Well. In the direct answer to your question, I did
not realize that I had died until I was looking
down on my body from the afterlife and looking at
us sitting in the chair in the memography room. And
but I knew I wasn't on earth. I knew the
body was, but I knew I wasn't. I knew I

(30:55):
was in the light. So I said to myself, Yeah,
I couldn't have died. Yeah, that's what dawned on me. Okay,
let's go back to the description of God from the
Thirty three Souls. The second part is that each of
us realized that we could perceive separate things within Source.

(31:24):
Some called it golden orbs, one called it spheares of awareness,
some called it stars, lights, individual consciousnesses, and little packages,
all of which collectively made up God. So we all

(31:48):
experienced and God the knowledge that Source is both an
incident singular creator Deity, and it's a collection of all

(32:10):
of these villions of little stars or orbs or lights
or what we call souls. So then the third part
is that we each realize that we are one of
those golden orbs or stars or light or sphere of consciousness,

(32:34):
and that we are God ourselves. That's the mind blowing
part of this book.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, I'm just kind of letting that set in for
our listeners to you know, ponder that visual of you know,
that experience. You know, because as as I was doing
research for this show, as I always do, to learn
more about the whether it's you know, the nd experience
or the afterlife experience, you know, one of the things
that came across has said there's you know, the universe,

(33:08):
which I was saying is about thirteen point eight billion
years old, and that's been rewritten because the James Web
telescope that's been out there for two years. We thought
it was about nine billion. We can look back in
time and say, oh, no, the universe is about thirteen millions.
So nine, ten, eleven, twelve, we're about four billion years
off right. But one of the things that came across is,
you know, the universe created itself, Someone created the universe,

(33:33):
or the universe has always been. And then one of
those three definitions, they're all three mind blowing if you
think about it. And so you what you're explaining is,
you know, more along lines that the universe was created
by a higher source that many of us call God,
or you know, different definitions depending on where you're at
in the world. But as far as you know your

(33:56):
time there and you know the love and the support
that you were feeling, were you sad? Was there any
human emotions to come back to the physical incarnate after
that thirty minutes on this side of the house, Do
you remember any kind of like, I don't know, like
I don't want to leave, because that's how I felt.
I did not want to leave in my indeed, I

(34:18):
was very at peace with what was what was happening,
and then all of a sudden I got shot right
back into my body, and I was kind of upset
about it, and I was like, no, I was enjoying
my experience, and now I'm back underwater. I'm just curious
if you had any thoughts after you came back, or
any kind of you know, depression or sadness or what
was your you know, what was the psychology of this

(34:39):
experience for you?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Well, first, I was, Oh, I was convinced the whole
time I was in the afterlife that I wasn't coming
back to human life, you know, I mean, I was
just certain of that. But you know, once I watched
that history of religious development on Earth and I got
the answers to all my questions about, you know, what
was God out of my what's the purpose of life?

(35:01):
Why am I on Earth's heaven worth hell? What's the
one true religion? And I got those answers, and I
realized they were so completely different than Catholicism. You know,
I kept saying, kind of like under my breath or
in my mind, somebody I would tell those people, and
I met those people down on Earth. You know, somebody
else tell these people. Well, here at the end of
my experience, after I awakened to the fact that I

(35:23):
am God, I am source, always have been, and that
I decided on my own to come into Nancy's body.
I all of a sudden, I start heading back down
into Nancy's body. And the first thought was, I didn't
mean me somebody. I didn't mean me.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Person.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, And so when I when I got back down
near the body, I thought it. I mean, I thought,
like to the mail, not to go into her. I
thought it the whole time. I was like being absorbed
into the body, and I kind of flowed through it,
kind of like blood does. And I kept fighting, you know,
I didn't want to go all the way into it

(36:08):
because it was marked. It was cold, wet, heavy, dank, disgusting,
rotted flesh. But more importantly, I wanted to be free
as air. I wanted to have all the knowledge, you know.
I wanted to be who I was in the afterlife.

(36:30):
I wanted to be a light being, and all that
was stripped away from me as I was being stuffed
back into this body. And so for about two years,
all I wanted to do was go home, back to
the afterlife. I wasn't suicidal or anything like that, and
I wasn't really depressed. I was homesick, and then after

(36:50):
two years I realized, well, I did go back once.
Within a few months after my first after life experience,
I did go back once, and you know, the I
got the message. You know, you're supposed to be doing
a mission there to girly get with a program. But
after that, you know, I realized I wasn't going to
go back to the afterlife. I was going to be

(37:11):
in Nancy's life for a while. I I was just
stupefied and how different the afterlife is from what I've
been taught as a Catholic, and I was hurt and upset.
I just couldn't reconcile, you know, what I had learned

(37:32):
as a Catholic and what the truth was in the afterlife.
And so I spent a lot of years just kind
of flailing. And that's why I left my law firm
do well on my own, was because I didn't want
to flail and hurt anybody but me. You know, I
didn't want to hurt my partners, and bless their little

(37:53):
heartsh all my clients came with me. But I was
just lost mark for about seven years. And then I
finally got my stuff together. While I was writing the
book backwards to belief and that kind of helped me,
you know, reconcile that, you know, what I learned as
a Catholic was kind of a baseline. It was. It

(38:14):
makes a lot of sense if all you've got to
work with is human knowledge and human observation of human life.
And you know, all the religious beliefs of the world
are thousands of years old. They were all thought up
by people who had no education. There was no reading

(38:36):
or writing, there were no telescopes, there was no knowledge
about I mean, lots of people thought that the stars
and the plants were gods. I mean, there was just
nothing but ignorance to work with. So, you know, I realized, what,
you know, you can't hold it against people that did
their best to understand you know, spiritual life and God,

(38:58):
and you know how they got to be here when
they didn't have any tools to work with. But now,
of course, we've got all these near enough experiences that
we can read and understand and absorb and can give
us a lot more information from firsthand experiences, and so
I just kind of saw it as a continuum of learning.

(39:21):
You know, I learned what the ancients believed in that
I learned what's actually the truth directly from source and
I just kind of put that into a spectrum a continuum.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah. I love that, and here we are talking about
it today for millions of people to listen to, even
now and even after we're gone. Right, So that's the
beauty of podcasting. You know, a couple of things that
you said that was interesting to me because you said
it was about seven years, which again, if we applying numerology,
seven is all about true right, So coming to the
truth of what you witnessed, what you experienced. And you know,

(39:59):
it's interesting because, like I said, I did some research
because you know, i've know when I started to have
my spiritual awakening. And for our listeners out there, just
a reminder you have to really kind of unlearn everything
that you've been taught or learned to believe up in
you know, regardless of what your age is, including religion.
And that's the thing that I found the hardest for
me was to unlearn some of the things I've been

(40:22):
taught to believe. Like, you know, we die and we
go to this big cloud up in the sky and
it's like, well, you know, if you break down logically
and scientifically, you can't go up or down because we're
on a round planet. Right, It's metaphysically impossible to go
up or down in the grand scheme of things. But
we assume that heaven is up because we ascend out
of our bodies, you know, I'm sure in your book

(40:42):
a lot of people talked about the ascension of moving
out of the body, looking back, you know, et cetera,
et cetera. So I always remind people that, you know,
whatever your belief system is, whether it's heaven, the afterlife,
summer land, it's not a location. It's a vibration. And
when you realize that, like you were describing, coming back
into the body is cold, and you know, just you know,

(41:03):
it's that heavy vibrational of matter and you know, materialized
in the human body, if you will. But what I did, Nancy,
and just to give from some perspective about what you
were saying about, you know, education and ignorance and at
the times, and of course we have technology today, right,
we're in the roaring twenties of transformation. So, like I said,
the universe was created thirteen point eight two billion years ago.

(41:25):
Earth is about four point five billion years. Mankind is
about two hundred thousand years, and then the age of
concept with God is only about ten thousand years. Age
of Mother God because we have the God concept and
then we have Mother God, which is about eight thousand years,
and then we start breaking down into our religion. Hinduism
is one of the oldest religions at six thousand years zero,

(41:48):
Triennism is about four thousand years, Judaism is four thousand years,
Janeism is about twenty six hundred years, Buddhism is twenty
six hundred years, Confucism is twenty five hundred years, Taoism
is twenty four hundred years, Christianity is two thousand years,
Islam is twelve hundred years, and the age of I

(42:10):
don't know if Seikhism is about four hundred years. So
we have various gods that have been created by man
at various periods of our time, right in that four
point five billion years that we've been here on this planet.
So in a sense, God is really man's creation based
off the time what they're learning. But what you are describing,
Nancy is something far superior. Far How do you put

(42:36):
into words? How do you put into words? Returning to source,
you know the laws of physics says energy always has
to return to source, and the energy in our heart
has to return somewhere, right, The energy and our heart
that makes us live has to go somewhere. But sometimes
you can't explain the unexplainable, right. So that's what I
came across when I was doing research for the show,
is about the length of time based on different religions,

(42:58):
with tend Toism being about the oldest at six thousand years,
which isn't if you think about it, that's not a
lot of people long period of time compared to four
point five billion years.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Right, right. But you know you're making another point that
comes out of the thirty three soul stories, and that
is regardless of what they believed before they died, regardless
of what kind of religious figure they might have expected
to see, you know, whether they expected to be Lord
Vishnu or Jesus Christ or you know something else, we

(43:29):
all saw the same kind of a thing, an energetic
thing that is composed of all of us, and it
radiates and in fact is composed of and created of love.
And that's something else I find mind blowing about being
in as life and you felt that love too. What

(43:51):
the thirty three souls describe is that source, what we
call source, the energy that it gives off, it's what
we call love. So anytime you feel love, even when
you're inside these bodies, you are feeling sources energy. And

(44:14):
when you give love, you're giving somebody else's life an input,
a bullus of source energy.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, and I always say grief is proof that you
love someone. Right when you're grieving, when you've lost a family,
a friend, or a fur baby. I always remind people
that that grief, that loss that you feel, is also
that love that means that you loved somebody, you were
connected with them. And you know, as a professional medium,
I know this real because I've done thousands of readings
with people all around the world, and I talk to

(44:48):
dead people that really aren't dead, that are more live
than you and I are now. And the one thing
they always talk about, the consistency, is the love that
goes back and forth over that which you described as
a barrier or a thresh no different than the threshold
going into your house. Right, We all enter a threshold.
In fact, all modern homes today are created with what
we call a threshold. When you enter that doorway, a

(45:09):
threshold you're in your home, and you talked about it
as that barrier or threshold. But what was also interesting
to me is when you said Nancy and third you
were talking about third person, that free will and choice
still applied even on the other side to go, Okay, well,
she just said Nancy, let's send her back because we
need to be her and have her be an ambassador

(45:30):
for the afterlife. Right, So that's kind of interesting to
me that that free will and choice is still there
on the other side, because it sounded like you didn't
really want to come back.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Well, free will and choice is source. Humans do not
have free will and choice. Humans are earth animals that
are driven by instinct and drives keep among them being
the survival instinct survival, yeah, and they drive for you know, eating, drinking, sleep,

(46:01):
recreating and having sex, you know, pro creating, so that
it sources the one with free will. And even though
I and some of the other of the thirty three
souls did not want to come back, you know, market
it just it wasn't laid out real clearly. You know

(46:21):
that somebody was making a decision, and because we are sourced,
there's no us making the decision, and source making the decisions.
There's no you know line there, there's no demarcation. So
it wasn't that, you know, I was sent back. It
wasn't that I chose to come back. I just did
you know. There wasn't any decisions to it. And that's

(46:43):
the way some of the others felt. Now, some of
the others were called back by family or being resuscitated
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Right, brought back with a you know, ad ad shock
to the heart and like brought back ba and again
think about that. That's interesting because you use an energy
to shock the heart, to bring the energy back to
the heart and bring that person back from the other side.
So it is really, like you said, energy source. And
as far as the book, I'd love to get a
copy when it comes out, So please send a book

(47:13):
copy to me digital or hardback as fine, because I'd
love to read it. How big of a book is it?
And let's talk a little bit for our listeners, Let's
talk about the book or anything that you want to
expand upon in the last part of the show. Here
about this book thirty three you know people that met
God and had the same same perspective.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
I guess, Yeah, how big of a book. Is it
what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, like pages? Like is it is it easy read?
Is it a long read?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
It?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Is it Warren Peace kind of book? Or is it,
you know, big thick book or is it a small,
you know, a couple hundred pages book.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, it's two hundred and twenty four pages, and then
another I think that includes ten pages of footnotes. I
have like hundreds of footnotes because I have hundreds of quotes. Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. I didn't want to, you know, put
words into the mouths of these other souls, so I
use their own, okay. And in terms of the I

(48:13):
think it's easy to read because I write, you know,
pretty simply and clearly. But it's so mind blowing that
I don't think anybody can just like sit down and
read it straight through. It's something you have to go
back to over and over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
That's uh. I got a few of those books. I'm
looking at hear in my bookshew. If one of one
of them is The Untethered Soul. I don't know if
you ever read that by mister Singer. That's one of
the one of the books that I have to constantly
come back to, or any books by Paul Seeley. He
does a lot of Book of Truth. You know, he's
he's We've had him on the show, and you know,
it's just so depth of you know, content is so

(48:54):
spiritually deep. It's you almost have to read it a
couple of times to understand, you know, in Layman's terms,
you're trying to say, right. And so I look forward
to getting that book and reading about it because it
sounds exciting, and especially when you have thirty three different people, right,
you tell it's like telephone. You get thirty three people
in a room and you try to tell the same
thing and you end up with, you know, thirty three

(49:15):
different stories. Right, you pass the story on to the
next person. So I think it's it's fabulous that you
put this together to have these perspectives, but all seeing
the same thing is what we call God, or what
we define as God. So what's besides the website that
I gave, is there other places that the book is

(49:37):
going to be published out too that you want to
share with the listeners.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
It will eventually be on Amazon and Barnes and Noble
and bookstores all around the world. Okay, I've noticed more
and more bookstores picking it up it.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Was so funny.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Mark. I was looking online Black Friday and I got
in alerk that one of my books was a back
Friday special at Target. I love it, and I thought,
you know, well, you know, Kmart might have Shoot now

(50:12):
the name's escaping me, the number one singer Flippy. Kmart
might have Taylor Swift, but Tarja has Wah. But anyway,
so the book will be out in paperback hopefully next month,
and it'll be available everywhere Amazon, Jusulie, the one that

(50:35):
carries the most copies, also have copies available on my websites.
And then something else I would like for your listeners
to know is I do monthly webinars. I've done them
for I started in January twenty two and each one
is like an hour an hour and a half on

(50:57):
a very limited topic, something you know that I brought
back from the afterlife, and I go into it in detail,
and then we discussed that, you know at the end.
And I have been a little by little weaving my
thirty three Souls material into those webinars over the past
probably year. So and I do slides. They're PowerPoint slides,

(51:20):
so you know, most of the webinars looking at PowerPoint
slides with me talking about them. But that's so I
can put the quotes up there and you can actually
read them yourself. And I have. I have found those
webinars to be wonderful for me and I've gotten a
lot of great feedback from them. And then I turned
the webinar into a video, and so the videos of

(51:42):
all the past webinars are on my website, Nancy Danison
dot com. And then I've also been doing you know,
one of the big topics of information that I got
in the afterlife was about manifesting and it was explained
to me and shown to me and demonstrated to me
three times, and it's one of the things I remember

(52:06):
the most about. So I have been doing coaching you
for years. I've been coaching people one on one on
the telephone on how to create a manifesting plan. Well,
I started doing workshops that are like coaching. You know.
It's a three hour workshop where only eight people can
come and each one gets their own manifesting plans that

(52:27):
we create together, so you get not only your own
manifesting plan, but to get to hear other people's plans
and that kind of gives you a better idea of
you know, examples of how to do, how to do
a plan, and how to manifest something. Well, starting in January,
I'm going to be delving into harmful belief that people

(52:48):
have picked up, usually in early childhood, and how they
have life long, devastating effects. So in January, the first
one is going to be the harmful effects of prejudices,
and we're going to have a group discussion about, you know,
how people learn to be prejudiced, you know, against different races,

(53:11):
against different religions, against sexual orientation, you know, all the
various prejudices that exist out there, and then how the
victims learn to continue to be victims and you know,
what can you do to break out of that victimhood.
So it should be hopefully a very lively discussion. And

(53:31):
then in February we're going to talk about the harmful
uh effects of some religious beliefs. I've been having a
lot of my one on one coaching clients ask me
or they'll tell me they're recovering Catholics. I've heard that
phrase many times, Yeah, I'm recovering Catholic. And so that's

(53:51):
what gave me the idea of because it is, you know,
some religions are so vastly different from from what you know.
The expanded afterlife experiencers have learned that it really, like
you said, it takes a lot of work to turn
their mind around and start looking at things more objectively.

(54:15):
And so that February workshop, yeah Sebally Worship, we'll be
talking about, you know, how we have been hurt by
some of these religious beliefs, and the chief among them,
I think is the idea that we're sinners. I mean,
you know, now, you know, it seemed normal to me
when I was growing up, but now looking back, telling

(54:38):
a little tiny children that they're sinners and if they're
going to go to hell unless they have baptism, I mean,
what kind of cruelty is that?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, yeah, burn in the fire of Hell. Yeah, it's
from a psychology standpoint, a lot of people would argue that's,
you know, a form of abuse. So yeah, I think
what you're doing is great work, Nancy, and I appreciate
you coming back to share your new book and congratulations
on your new book and share your insight as an

(55:10):
ambassador of the afterlife. If you want to check out
Nancy's work, her new book Thirty three Souls, who met God,
accounts of Atheists, Buddhist and Christians who died and met
the same God. You can get all the information at
our Inspired Living social media pages, or you can go
to Nancy Danison dot com or Backward Books dot com.
It's been a pleasure having you back as our guest,

(55:30):
and I just wish you many blessings, happy holidays and
can continue in the work that you are doing.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Thank you so much, Mark, and happy holidays to you
and all your listeners. Bless you all.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Right, Thank you, Nancy, all right. Until our next soul
adventure together, be kind, caring and compassionate. Most importantly, dare
to dream, dare to explore, dare to live and discover
that diamond with Then we'll be back for another episode
of Inspired Living. Happy holidays to everybody until next time,
Take care, stay weird. Widely enlightened the individuals Craty Dreams
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