Are We Really Alone in the Universe? The Search for Earth 2.0

Air Date - 23 October 2024

Looking up at the night sky, one can’t help but wonder if we are alone in the universe. Join Inspired Living Host Marc Lainhart – The Intuitive Prospector™ this “Wisdom Wednesday” as Marc goes “Prospecting” deeper into our universe to discuss and share the perspectives, theories, science, physics, philosophy, beliefs, and technology through the topics of the famous Drake Equation, Dyson Spheres, Exoplanets our current search for Earth 2.0. Are humans unique and alone in the vast universe? This question summed up in the famous Drake equation, has been one of the most intractable and uncertain in science for a half-century, but that may soon change during our “Roaring 20s of Transformation!”


“Rather than asking how many civilizations may exist now, we ask, are we the only technological species that has ever arisen?” -Woodruff Sullivan, University of Washington


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome to Inspired Living with Mark Lainhart, the Intuitive Prospector.
Every Wednesday, Mark, along with his special guests, will explore
thought provoking topics and ideas that promote creativity, self help, healing,
happiness and well being to inspire you on your spiritual journey.
Each week, Mark will discuss different paths to achieving a

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more spiritual, balanced, happy, and healthy lifestyle. Topics will elevate
consciousness and range from metaphysics, to the human and social
experience and all things spiritual. Welcome to an inspired community
that offers support, encouragement, and new ways of thinking. Mark
is a tested, certified and professional spiritual medium, metaphysical teacher, healer,

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and spiritual advisor with a spiritual practice based in Seattle, Washington.
You are the inspired and the inspiration, and.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening wherever you may
be in this magical, magnanimous, magnificent, majestic, marvelous, metaphysical, miraculous,
mind awakening, mind blogging, mind blowing planet of ours. This
is Inspired Living Radio. I am your host, Mark Leaineheart,
the Intuitive Prospector, and today we are going to go

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beyond our planet and have a very deep conversation based
on technology, based on science, based on philosophy, based on conspiracy,
to understand if we truly are alone in the universe,
or as if you are a fan of the Star
Trek TV series and many movies that have come out
to boldly go where no one has gone before. So

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welcome to the show another episode. I love doing these
episodes because it gives us a chance to go prospecting.
As the intuitive prospect. I'm always asking, you know, questions
of everything. You know, life is short, so question everything.
And the first question I'm going to post to you
as we open this show is it's kind of mind boggling,
somewhat unbelievable, but we really only have three ways this

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universe came into our existence or awareness, and the universe
either created itself, or something created it or it's always been.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Out of those three options, they're all unbelievable and mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
So we're gonna explore in this episode if we're alone
in the universe, and we're going to talk about a
few different scientific concepts, a few philosophy concepts, some history,
including the famous Drake equation based off mathematics, the Dyson spheres,
which we'll talk about from what we're currently going through

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in the James Web Telescope and of course our search
for Earth two point zero. So I'm happy to be
joining you for yet another soul adventure and inspiring episode
to explore, discuss, and discover the many diamonds within each
and every one of us and the many giant gems
that are in our world that.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Have yet today be revealed.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So get comfortable, grab your favorite drink, kick back, sit back,
or lie back, take in a nice, deep, healing, peaceful
and cleansing breath, and let us prospect and learn together
as we explore this topic on today's show, and the
journey and the many pathways of life to dream, discover, explore,
and experience through all of our elements of the buying,

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the body, and the spirit for another inspiring, uplifting and
educational episode.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
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Speaker 2 (03:43):
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Speaker 4 (04:51):
So, as I.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Always like to say, a new day, a new opportunity,
a day we have not seen before, to use our
intuition to prospect this wonderful world around. Are we ready
to go prospecting? I know that I am.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
So we've got a lot to get through.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
And I first want to talk about a gentleman who's
local here from the University of Washington in the Astrology department.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
His name is Woodruf Sullivan, And.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
As I've putting this show together, I've been doing a
lot of research on these topics and his quote came
up and I found it very very inspiring, very interesting.
He said, he said this quote, Rather than asking how
many civilizations may exist, now we ask are we the
only technological species that has ever arisen?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
End quote?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And that's from the professor Woodruff Sullivan from the University
of Washington Astrology Department.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
So I'm here in Seattle, so that's my alumni. I'm always, you.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Know, research in universities and peer review topics on science
and technology, and I just found that quote to be
very very interesting. Are we really the only technological species
that has ever arisen? And when you start to break
down how large the universe is, it's a very big

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place up there, and it seems like a very big
waste of real estate if we are the only species
in a mathematical formula that's almost uncomprehensible. So what I'm
gonna do is I'm going to break this down into
a few sections so you can put it into Layman's terms.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Stuff that I've studied to try.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
To understand myself and I can share that with you
so you can have a better perspective of our universe
and if we are truly alone.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
In the universe, which if you followed my work.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
If you follow this show, I've been saying before our
Roaring twenties, before we kicked into our Roaring twenties, I
said that we would learn during the decade of our
Roaring twenties of transformation, that we are not alone in
the universe, that there is other intelligent life out there. Now,
that doesn't mean we're going to be able to get
to them, and they're not going to be.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Able to get to us.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
But as soon as the James Webb Telescope went out
a million miles into orbit to start searching the universe,
that means we're going to start seeing stuff. You can
just that to just our modern technology down here on
this planet. The telescope the microscope all debatable before those
two tools came into our reality. And we know that
the telescope, for those that were looking up at the

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stars were persecuted very, very heavily for their beliefs. And
you know, saying that the Earth goes around the Sun,
not that the Sun goes around the earth, right, And
you know the microscope, people for hundreds of years debated
if you couldn't see it with the physical eye, then
it did not exist. We know that not to be true,
We know that to be disproven by science, by the

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microscope itself. But again a lot of people debated, a
lot of people persecuted and even kilt for you know,
these beliefs that you if you can't see it. Well,
we know that there is a whole world there based
on energy frequency, vibration that is not seen or heard
by the human eye and or ear. So what I

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want to do is I want to go through these
concepts that will help us realize that you, through technology,
through our search through the universe and the tools that
we have as a species that is advancing in the
roaring twenties, we will learn that we're not alone.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I always like to say, wait, watch, and witness.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Anytime I do a podcast, a forecast, a prediction, you
just have to wait for that timeline to kick in.
And so I guess I've got a few more years
here for us to have what we call full disclosure.
And I've always said, if you follow my work, I
said that it would not come from our government, It
would not come through the media cycle.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It will come through crowdsourceing.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It will come through you as a people, with the
technology that's in your hand, your smartphone. It will be
to the point where you can't deny that we are
not alone based on what is being found and what
is being seen.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
So the first one, we want to apply mathematics.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
To this conversations, because mathematics is the universal language, not English,
not Spanish, not French. I know a lot of you
out there, am I thinking that's how we're going to
communicate with the extra dimensional beings or a species that's
much superior and farther advanced than us. And again, we
are not the alpha spec In fact, I was just
reading one of the professors from either Harvard or Stanford,

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and I can't recall I didn't write that note down,
but he was talking that he is convinced that aliens
are I don't even know if I like to use
the word aliens right in today's context, extra dimensional beings
or visitors, that they're already here on our planet. And
if you think about that for a second, before I
get into the Drake's equation based on mathematics. The planet

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is covered in seventy percent water. We know that from
just scientific journals and studies and explorations. We've only discovered
at most fifteen percent of our entire ocean.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, when we look at the planet, we always
see the front side.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Of the planet, which is all most of most of
the continents and land masks. But when you go to
the backside of the planet, it's mostly water. There's millions
and man's of square miles that are just miles to hide, miles.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
To evolve, just you know, water galore that.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, something could if it wanted to exist, could
And if you go back even further sixty five million
years ago, how do we know that when the dinosaurs
were extinct from what we now know is a asteroid
that hit the planet sixty five million years ago and
wiped out the dinosaurs, we don't know if some sort
of species was able to survive and go deep within
the planet and evolve over time. There's been a lot

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of theories, and I said I would talk about theories
and conspiracies that there is a scientists are talking.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
About it inter realm and inner Earth.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And with that, you have to wonder if a species
could evolve and become intelligence within that environment. There's a
cave in Vietnam that has its own weathering system that
you can actually go explore today that was just discovered
maybe fifty years ago even less. That tells us that
there is two scenarios of both water and deep within
our Earth that we have yet to learn or discover.

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So that's just our planet, right, that's just the possibilities
of life can evolve. Antarctica. We've done a podcast on Antarctica.
The secrets Amountartica will start to be revealed as the
ice starts to melt, and you know this Antarctica conspiracy
or history going all the way back to World War
Two with Hitler's fascination for sending his troops down to

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Antarctica and for us to explore this continent. So there's
a whole continent waiting to be explored and reveal its secrets.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Hopefully good, maybe not so good.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
If there's you know, new viruses that have been laid
dormant and nice that could open up, you know, new
diseases and viruses just like we saw from COVID. So
there's a lot of secrets that will be revealed. So
you have to go listen to that podcast we did
a couple of years ago on the Secrets of Antarctica.
But what I'm saying is, for this episode, there's just
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Our planet we don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
And that's why I talk as the intuitive prospector to
find just not only the diamond within and what you're
searching for, but to look at your world with maybe
a broader perspective and to learn that there's just a
lot we don't know. And Plato always, you know, said
those that claim to know it all know nothing and
know nothing at all. And so that's why I wanted
to do this episode on our alone in the universe

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and if are we even alone on this planet?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
We know that there are other intelligent species on this planet.
The octopus, dolphins, whales, you know, show signs of empathy,
show signs of communication, so show signs of logic, and
you know that in itself tells me that there's just
a lot we don't understand. But if we were to
talk about the Drake equation, the Drake equation, what the
purpose of it is is the Drake equation is a

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formula that helps us to estimate the number of active,
communicative extraterrestrial civilizations in our galaxy.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
It was created and developed by astrophysicist Frank Drake back
in nineteen sixty one as a way to frame the
search using scientific method us in mathematics, and to set
up this frame to search for what we would call
alien life or extra dimensional advanced species.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
A couple of the key factors is the equation breaks
down the search into several factors that influence the likelihood
of finding alien civilizations. First, the number of stars. One
of the first factors is the rate of the star
formation in the galaxy, which tells us how many stars
are born each year. We also know that there are

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stars with planets. It's considered the fraction. Again, we're taking
mathematics to try to measure this galaxy, this universe that
has more stars and planets than all the grains of
sand on the beaches.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Think about that for a second.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
More planets in stars than all of the grains of
sand on all of the beaches around planet Earth.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
It's just it's almost hard to get your mind around that.
That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
And so what this does is the Drake equation starts
to look at the universe in a way from mathematics
that tells us the length, width, the heights, which is
still not going to be accurate. Just like we thought
the universe was nine billion years old. By looking back
from our current technology James Webb telesc went into space
was developed over ten years from our technologists that we

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were billions of years off. We're about thirteen billions thirteen
billion years as far as expansion of the universe looking
back at the you know, what some would call the
Big Bang, But again it goes back to how I
opened the show, and the question is did the universe
create itself?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Or did something create it?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Some may you know, some may call that God, you know,
based on written scriptures from around the world.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Or has it always been?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And if it's always been, then that you know, again,
it's just hard to get your mind around that.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
I just know that I sometimes struggle, you know, the just.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
The the the just asking that bigger questions, like you
ask that question and we may not get the answer,
but we can start to explore based on the Drake
equation and try to put this into like I said,
some sort of framework to understand at least the scope
of the universe now stars with planets. It's also considered

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the fraction of those stars that have planets that are
acknowledging that all stars have planetary systems, so we fall
into some sort of planetary system alignment orbits, you know,
not just what we see here within our own galaxy
now habitable planets. The equation starts to look at how
many of those planets could potentially support life, focusing on

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their distance from the star and other environmental factors.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Some would call that the Goldilocks.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
For life to exist, it has to be not too hot,
not too cold, but just right. And so we call that,
you know, planets that would be in the Goldilocks equation
for not being too cold and not too hot. Now
is life developing? There is a factor of the likelihood
of life developing on these habital planets, considering the complexity

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and the conditions necessary for life, because all life requires certain,
you know, conditions for life to expand.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
So that's what astrologers and astra.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Physicists and sciences are are looking and they try to
apply the Drake equation to this model, to this framework
to help us understand as you know, stars with planets,
the number of stars.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
How many of those planets could be habitable.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
It could be you know, not necessarily humans, it could
be life that looks, you know, somewhat. I always have
said that the octopus, you know, we know it's not
from this planet because there's no other DNA. There's no
cousin to the octopus on this planet. So it means
it did not come from this planet, because otherwise, with
its DNA, it would be relatable to you know, something
else on the planet, and it's not, so it comes
from somewhere else. And if you look at an octopus

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based on how many brains it has, based on its
ability to problem solve and logic and even empathy, you
know there is you know, it looks different than us,
And that would make sense because the environment we become
what our environment dictates to us. We have gravity, therefore,
we have arms that are long enough for us to
reach our mouths so we can feed ourselves. So it's

(16:55):
no wonder that the octopus looks extraterrestrial because one it is.
And too, they're never going to look like us exactly
because of the conditions in which they thrive. So you
start to look at you know, the life development and
the complexity and conditions necessary necessarily for life, now, intelligent
life based on the Drake equation. It also estimates estimates

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the chances that intelligent life evolves from the simple orgasms
of those planets. So you know, there's always the debate,
you know, based on darmalism and evolution. Uh did we
just one day walk out of the ocean where we
some sort of amba, But it is, you know, the
starting you know, it estimates the chances that life can

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evolve if those conditions are met. Now, the equation also
includes the duration that civilizations are capable of communicating, meaning
how long.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
They can send signals into space. And we're going to
be a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
On the conspiracy side here, just for the fact there
has been radio signals over time since we started.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
To move into the revolution.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Into our technology, and we're about to move into AI,
which is going to be very similar to the Industrial Revolution,
except that it's going to be based more on our
consciousness and the expansion of our knowledge of information. And
so you know, the communication we're sending communications and we
have been for fifty plus years saying hey, we're here
in the universe, this is Earth, this is where, this

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is who we are. You know, voyager now has a
gold record out there, you know, both voyagers that are
out there, you know, seventy plus years broadcasting signals. So
the Drake equation also looks at not just the intelligent
life and life development, but also the communication that a
civilization is capable of evolution, communicating their technology growth and

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meaning that they can actually send signals out into space.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Just like we are doing now. But you know, as
far as all of.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
The final estimates of the Drake equation, and you can
just go do some research and do a little prospecting
yourself to try to understand this like I have of
it's by multiplying all these factors together, the Drake equanimated
number of civilizations that might be trying to communicate with
us in our galaxy. And I have you know, I'm

(19:12):
a firm believer as an experiencer. You know, if if
you followed the show, if you have listened to former
you know.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Past podcasts I've talked about. I didn't. I wasn't always
a believer.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
That we you know, I always thought maybe we were alone.
And then in my Coast Guard days off the coast
of Puerto Rico, which is also known as the Tip
of the Bermuda Triangle, which has a lot of a
lot of what we once called UFOs unidentified flying objects,
which was changed to UAPs, which is was called unidentified

(19:46):
aero phenomenon, which has yet again been changed by the
Pentagon to be called unidentified anomalist phenomenon, which means it's
not just aerial, it can go from c to air
to space as a trans medium vehicles. I find just
even the naming of the these events very curious by nature.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
But I in my.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Coast Guard days is when I experienced something too. If
you've ever seen close encounters in the third time that
Spielberg did in seventy six, when I saw that as
a small boy, years later in my Coast Guard days,
I saw something very similar with a bunch of dancing
lights off in the middle of nowhere, completely dark. This
would have been at the time that Helbop was up
in the sky full milky way. I can see all

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the stars. You could almost reach out and grab the stars.
Because we were looking for drugs and go fast boats.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
That was our mission.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So we were running what's called dark and ship and
you know, three o'clock in the morning. We had an
experience on the bridge with dancing lights that wasn't a
weather anomaly.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
There was no drone technology at that time.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
In ninety nine, and rewitnessed for eight to ten minutes
something of intelligence that wasn't our technology, and you could
tell was not from here the way they moved, how
graceful they were, how fast they moved, and then just
all came into one big battle of light and shot
down into the water. And every time we try to
you know, navigate towards it pushed out farther. But it
was almost like it knew it was putting on a

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show for us, and it knew that we were watching it.
That's when I became a firm believer as an experiencer
of something bigger than myself. And that's when I really
started to research, you know, through move on, through setting
the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, and.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Really started to be like, what did I see?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
And a lot of times it's going to be your
own experience, because we are the sum of our experiences.
And maybe you've not had that experience like I'm talking about,
so you're really not curious to it. But I'm telling you,
when it happens, you're going to be curious. And you're
going to start to prospect like, what the heck did
I just see? So as the Drake of question is
multiplying all these factors together, it's estimating a number of civilizations,

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and the number is staggering in the trillions, in the trillions,
not billions, tea with the trillions.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
And so we.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Also have to start thinking about multi dimensional constructs. Have
you ever seen the movie Interstellar, I'd say I highly
recommend it. It covers a lot of these concepts that
we're going to be talking about day. From the Drake equation,
the theory of relativity, black holes, time, and it's it's
very the Tasarak if you don't know what the tazaract is.

(22:10):
These are all concepts that we start to get into
quantum mechantics, quantum physics, multi dimensional theory. And one of
the theories is that that our universe, our universe by itself,
may be nestled inside a black hole that is itself
part of a larger universe.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Think about that, like a bubble within a bubble within
a bubble.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
And all, and that all black holes found so far
in our universe may be doorways into alternative or alternate realities.
So that becomes dimensional philosophy, if you will, and you
know the Drake equation. I like the approach of the
Drake equation because it really starts to at least try

(22:54):
to have a conversation, a logical conversation based on the
size of our universe, based on the number of stars,
the stars with planets. Are those planets habitable? Can life
develop within that goldilocks? Can it develop within that complexity
and conditions necessary for life?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
And from that life? Can that life become intelligent? Where
it can?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Actually you start broadcasting and doing very similar to what
we're doing in our rowning twenties, including the International Space Station,
including sending signals out into space. And again some of
the most brilliant minds on our planet from Stanford and
Harvard are already indicating.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
That yes, we're not alone, and that they are already here.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Now there is what I like to call again, if
you follow my work, I always talk about drip, drip, drip,
this slow drip like a faucet to where finally the
faucet just gives up all of the information. And if
you think about it for a second, this conversation that
we're having today, this is the longest running, oldest conspiracy

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known to mankind.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
When we look up to the stars and say, are.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
We alone in the universe, and from my experience and
my sole adventures, we are not. And there's going to
be a lot to be revealed, and that's going to
be for some of you that may be uncomfortable. That
may be a paradigm shift, that might be a tipping point,
if you will, because our history doesn't talk so much,
even from a religious construct. There are references in religions

(24:29):
all around the world, but it's this conversation that we're
having more and more and that might, you know, change
a status quo for certain people. I find that people
are so interested in aliens, but how would they expect
to learn about the cultures from different planets or solar
systems if we as a people came even accept different
cultures on our own damn.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Planet, right of our own damn species. Think about that
for a second.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So that's where we're going to see some key factors
of you know, the awareness that we're not alone and
the full disclosure which again I am forecasting, podcasting predicting,
will be revealed during this decade of running twenties in transformation,
and I do believe that AI will also play a
big part in that. And as our technology continues to

(25:15):
advance every every eighteen months, also known as Moore's law,
it's just going to become to the point that, you know,
how do we realize that we weren't alone years ago?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Because we're not and there's there's going.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
To be a lot to be revealed, just like the
microscope changed society and ways of thinking and consciousness, just
like the telescope has changed ways of thinking and consciousness
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We are going boldly where no one has gone before,
to talk about our universe, to talk about the galaxy,
to talk about our real loan in the universe, I
love doing these shows where we can prospect for an
hour looking at different concepts, looking at history, looking at theories,
looking at hypotheses, looking at conspiracies. And we were just

(30:30):
talking about the Drake equation, which is a mathematical formula
to try to frame or at least try to get
a scope of how large.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Our universe is.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Not just our universe here and the Milky Way, but
again the theory of you know, is within a black
hole a doorway to another alternate universe And that's something
that we have to consider as we explore moving from
a three dimensional construct into both fourth and fifth dimensions constructs.

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And one of the things that we you know, we're
talking from the Drake's equation was another concept that science
has been looking out called the Dyson spheres, and the
concept of the Dyson fear was proposed by physicist Freeman Dyson. Again,

(31:22):
it was interesting because the Drake equation came out in
sixty one. These Dyson spheres came out in nineteen sixty
as a theoretical theoretical structure that can capture energy from
a star. So the concept is that as a species,
if it meets the Drake equation, the complexity of the goldilocks,

(31:46):
and it can evolve from a single cell and have
you know, not too hot, not too cold. Then we
know that as we remove as a species, and we're
seeing it in real time with our own technology and
our own own advancement from what we've done from the
early days of the Apollo missions to the Moon, to
the International Space Station to where we just had four

(32:06):
astronauts go out to the farthest point in space sets
the Apollo missions and of course to James Webb, that
is out there a million million miles out in orbit
looking at all aspects of the universe. And one of
the things that is interesting about these Dyson spheres, again
proposed by Freeman Dyson, a physicist back in nineteen sixty,

(32:27):
was that a civilization, an advancing civilization, would take its
ability to harness the energy from its own planet. Now,
think about what we're doing, whether it's solar technology, nuclear technology,
wind technology, petrol technology, where does all that come from?
They all come at some point from the planet or

(32:49):
from outside of our planet. Right, so we as a species,
us as a civilization, are learning to harness power, which
is part of our industrial revolution, right to bring in
energy to bring in the light bulb, to bring in
the things that we enjoy today based on having electricity
and energy to all of our different technology needs. So
we are in the process of moving outside of our

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planet to harness the energy of our planet. So what
Freeman Dyson proposed from a physicist standpoint was a Dyson
sphere would actually be designed to harness the star's energy output,
potentially providing vast amounts of energy for advancing civilizations. Now,

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I personally believe, again this is just a personal based
on my prospecting and research in history.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Past, is that the pyramids, and there's pyramids all over
the planet, y'all.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's not just in Gezus, not just in Egypt. There
are pyramids all around the planet. I've always long thought
that those are remnants of ancient civilizations using a technology
we don't understand to harness power based on the structure
of a three dimensional pyramid, right, a three sided peerm.
And if you know, if you look at the pyramids today,

(34:04):
if you were to go back and have an actual
accurate picture of what they look like, they were actually
all covered in white. They weren't the color they are today,
and they actually had a gold tip at the very
top of the especially the pyramids in Giza in Egypt, and.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
They don't look like what they look like today, right,
They look.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Worn down, ancient and old, And so for me, those
have always been some sort of Dyson's fear a species
at that time that could harness to create you know,
think of it like an international gas station.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I guess that these ships could land. If you ever
saw the.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Movie Starget, I thought that was a fascinating rendition and
imagination of these pyramids that could land on these like
charging units here on Earth and go back and forth
to harness. Which one of the you know, theories is
that the anachy harvested gold from our planet, and you know,
so I've always just found that interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Is that true? I don't know, but I can.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I know that the pyramids are true because I've seen them,
and I've been to pyramids in different parts of the world,
so I know the technology and the construction of them
are real. But as far as how far back they
go and how they were built, still kind of scratching
our head on that one.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
But I would.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Classify that as a Dyson sphere because I believe it
was used to harness some sort of metaphysical energetical technology
that we just don't yet understand. And as a spiritualist,
we always say the spirituality is what physics and modern
science hasn't yet come up to, because we're kind of
ahead of the curve, if you will.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
But we have to go by today's standards of what.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Science tells us, because you know, science is never truthful
to one hundred percent because it's only telling us what
we know at that time. And science is always but
it's real, it's measurable, and it's always subject to change.
And so these Dyson spheres is a way to harness
output energy output. And so what Freeman was theorizing based
on looking and using the Drake equation that would came

(35:57):
out a year later, based on the side of the
universe and the amount of planets and stars and what
we now call exoplanets, these spheres would include a solid shell,
a swarm of satellites. Think he would refer to those
as a dice and swarm or a cloud of solar collectors.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Also known as a dice in bubble.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Now, this was written in nineteen sixty and so the
first satellites were just starting to come into our reality, right,
we think Sputnik, we think, you know, we started to
move into our exploration of space in the nineteen sixties
and even Star Trek was written in the late fifties
and we started to just you know, just science fiction
starts to become science factor where if you look at
the planet today, there's over twenty seven thousand pieces of

(36:42):
both satellites and jump floating in our orbit right now.
Twenty seven thousands estimated that's going around the planet right now.
So that's a lot from nineteen sixty, right, So we
would call that a swarm of satellites also known as
a dice and swarm, or a cloud of solar collectors,
which you know what is on the International Space Station clicktors,
also known as a dice and bubble. So the engineering

(37:03):
challenges building a dice and sphere presents immense engineering challenges.
Think about how they built the pyramids back then, just
immense engineering challenges. They can't fully actually put a pyramid together.
We're using today's technology, right and some of the way
these stones were cut with hand tools. Just it doesn't match,
it doesn't measure up, it doesn't match up, including of

(37:24):
course material strength, including energy collection efficiency, and the management
of heat right, because when you have energy, you have
to think about the laws of science, and it is
going to generate heat. So the engineering challenges for building
a dice and fear all have to come into play.
Now as far as the scalability of it, the concept
can be scaled to suit the engine needs of the civilization,

(37:45):
but from smaller constructs from around individual stars to massive
constructs around the galaxy. So the theory is that if
a species can advance and it can become an intelligent species,
and it can move through the evolution of its technology,
we'll start to do exactly what we're doing satellites, International
Space Station. If you watch the recent history with what

(38:05):
SpaceX just did you know, launching starship up which again
this thing is twenty three stories high and then having
the return rocket be caught on chopsticks and reusable technology,
and that's the key to our space expiration is reusable
lowering cost to where we will be going to the

(38:26):
Moon in the next two years, I believe the Artemis mission.
There's also a going to be the first space hotel
if you will, for tourists twenty twenty seven, and of
course moving to Mars.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Which is a big concept.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Get to the Moon, get to Mars, and we're seeing
that we're actually seeing these engineering challenges and the scalability
come into our reality. And so Freeman Dyson theorized that
if we have the ability at some point in the
future to look out at the universe and see these
Dyson spheres, that would tell us that there is an

(39:03):
advanced technology and advanced species that has harnessed the power
of their planet. And I'll let you in on a
little secret. That's what that drip drip drip I was
talking about. I believe NASA already is aware. I believe
our government is already ware the Pentagon, the powers that
be that they have seen a Dyson sphere with the
James Web telescope. Now, NASA did come out and say

(39:23):
that they could find evidence of advanced technology. That doesn't
mean we can get to them based on our current technology,
but wouldn't that be a game changer to actually look
out of the universe and the James Web, which I
think has already taken place, and it will come to
light eventually that we, yes, we have seen a planet
that is advanced. It's built this technology or this Dyson

(39:46):
sphere so that tells us that one we're not alone
in the universe and that there is other intelligence out there,
and that changes everything down here, hopefully on our planet,
because our planet definitely needs a change in where we're
going as far as how we live together on this place,
how we treat our planet.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
And I've always called this the great coming together, that
there would be some.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Sort of catalyst or trigger within society, within consciousness.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
That brings us kind of to that Star Trek moment,
Star Wars moment, that the.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Universe and Rhea as of people are much bigger and
better together, more united to explore, you know, why we're here,
because again the three aspects of the universe. Was it
created by someone? Has it always been here?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Don't? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I don't know the answer to that, but it's still
it's just it's mind blowing, right It just.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
You know, or did something created?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Did another species far superior and advance on us create this?
I guess we'll just have to find out and wait
and watch and witness.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
But as the Drake.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Equation, you know, tells us, it baffles me that if
it was created by a omnipotent creator that would create
this entire galaxy and then his you know, quote unquote
chosen children wouldn't have it. You know, I'm going to
break this code just kind of give you the mathematics
of this zero point zero zero zero zero zero.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
One five percent that was twenty zeros by the way
of its area for only zero point zero zero zero
zero four percent of its history. Right, That just it
just baffles me. Right, And you know, I think we're
going to have some mindfulness and evolution through AI of

(41:37):
our consciousness.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
That, yeah, that just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
So, you know, food for not.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
That's why we do these episodes to get you thinking
outside the box and think, you know, a better broader perspective.
It doesn't mean I'm right, doesn't mean I'm wrong. But
what I love to do with my shows is bring
it together like a s'morty sport, a buffet of information
of diamonds and gems, and you pick and choose what
you resonate with. Maybe you haven't had an experience like
I have, and that's fine, but I can lay it out.

(42:02):
You can pick and choose just like a buffet. You know,
do you want the mashed potatoes. You want the cream corn,
you want the bread pudding? Do you want the chocolate cake?
You know, you can pick and choose. And that's why
I think it's important to have these conversations of consciousness,
of transparency, and even conspiracy, because I do think, you know,
back in the day when I had my experience, we
talked about wearing this tin foiled hat. And as we
move into you know, this drip drip grip of revealing,

(42:26):
maybe the tinfoil hat won't be needed in the years
ahead because it'll be like, why were you wearing a
tinfoil hat. So I have to continue with the Dyson spheres.
We're going to get into our search for Earth two
point zero. Now, again, there's some astrobiological implications with a
Dyson sphere because the existence of a Dyson sphere around
the star might be detectable by observing unusual energy patterns,

(42:49):
leading to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. And that's what
I believe is what that drip, drip drip of what
our government and what the NASA agency and even SpaceX
already know they've detected some sort of dice in sphere
way out. But we necessarily won't be able to get
to it within you within my lifetime. Perhaps perhaps you will.

(43:09):
Maybe there'll be a reveal of you know, wormholes were
I've been talking about Einstein Rosenbridge wormholes and the theory
of relativity and black holes and bending space and time.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
That's a whole nether mind blowing conversation.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
But I want to keep up with the Dyson spheres,
breaking it down into these sections as we move into
Earth two point zero because the technology advancements.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
The creation of a dice in fear would.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Require advanced technologies far beyond our current capacities, including breakthroughs
and materials in science, in energy and management of that
energy again, harnessing that energy. And again there's going to
be some technology advancements that will allow us to understand
our universe, especially with the assistance of artificial intelligence.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
That is here and that is current rolling out now.
There are some limitations with the Dyson sphere.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
It could face limitations such as the availability of materials.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
You think about the International Space Station.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
We couldn't have the space station as it is now
without the materials that we've created over time through the
Industrial revolution, right, and so you know these advanced technologies
create limitations based on the availability of materials, the science,
the lifespan of the star, the life span of the materials,
and the challenges of maintaining a structure over time.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
So those are some of the limitations for a Dyson sphere.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Now, Dyson sphere over in my research have become very
popular topic in both science fiction and influence in various
works and inspiring discussions about the future of energy and
civilizations by harnessing the power of the planet, which we
are having conversations right now, and I imagine, you know,
two hundred years in the future will probably have some

(44:55):
sort of big ring around the planet for not just
you know, the gateway to space, but also to harness
that energy and the advancements of you know, quantum physics,
quantum mechanics, quantum computing, if you will.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But as far as you know, you know, while intriguing,
the dice in fear.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Does remain a speculative concept, serving as a thought of
an experiment for the potential of future or energy consumption
and the technology advancements of a species. But I just
something in my you know, and I've been doing this
for a while, but something in my my Spidy Senses
is telling me that James Webb has picked up something

(45:33):
and it just hasn't been revealed yet.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
And I'm just I'm seeing a lot through crowdsourcing.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Again, not so much through the government or the national
media news cycles, but more with people that are actually
following this.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
You know, they call them Internet.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Sleuths that are following different channels through social media, YouTube, TikTok,
all of those that are following and sharing this information,
which we call crowdsourcing.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
So that leads me to my final concept for today.
I know, if you're enjoying the episode.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Again, I love doing these shows because it's just fascinating,
you know, when it comes to life, and I always
set life's an acronym.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Learn it from experience.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So as we move into the search for Earth two
point zero, there is a planet out there right now
that has already been it's already been coded K two
one eight B.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
That B isn't buoyant k's and kilo K two one
eight B.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
It's three times the size of the Earth and it
has been seen and it is theorized that it does
hold life. Now again, getting there, it's not too it's
not as far as I thought would be, but you know,
getting there right now for.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Us would be a challenge.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
It just right now, it currently takes us, you know,
six months with the timing of trajectory, just to get
to Mars within itself, right, that's six months. So this planet,
this two point zero, is really expanding our search using
the Drake equation, using the Dyson spheres for extra planet,
for these what we call exoplanets, and the search for

(46:59):
Earth what we would call two point zero. So what
an exoplanet is. It's the term used for any planet
outside of our Solar system. And the first of them
was discovered right after I got out of high school
nineteen ninety two. I actually graduated nineteen ninety one. And
so this is where the science started changing, because our
technology was changing and our idea.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Of the universe was changing.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
And it was actually not just one planet, but it
was two called Fauxbaer and Poultergeist were the two exoplanets,
and these siblings spheres rocked the world of astronomy when
they found that they were orbiting a pulsar in the
constellation Virgo some twenty some two thy three hundred light years.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Away from our blue Marble. This blue spot.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
You know, Carl Sagan always talked about the blue dot,
right if you've ever followed that. And so what has
happened is astronomers have now confirmed since then, since nineteen
ninety two, the existence of thousands of exoplanets. As of
June eighteenth, the count is up to six one hundred
and forty. Now, if we apply that Drake's equation to that,
we know that that number is going to change drastically

(48:03):
as we expand our technology out, as we explore the universe.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
That is going to completely change those numbers.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
But again, from nineteen ninety two, we've gone from two
far Better and Poltergeist to now sixty one hundred exoplanets
that we have now discovered and have confirmed with our
technology and our science. Now, many of the exoplanets confirmed
so far are comparable to worlds within our own Solar system,
not terribly unlike Neptune or Jupiter or Venus.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
But some are a little weird too. Some of them are,
you know, straight out of a Star Trek or Star
Wars episode.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
You know, they've looked at some of these exoplanets using
the Hubble Space Telescope before before James Webb and Kepler,
there was the Hubble space telescope, and you know, there
is created a situation where reality is actually a little
bit more strange than the actual fictional predictions that we've
talked about.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Right, They've discovered.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Planets that are completely full of oceans, where deep waters
cover every inch of the land. If you again, if
you ever saw the movie Interstellar, they land, they go
through a dimensional wormhole if you are, a black hole,
which takes them into a different dimension, and they set
down on this planet called Miller's Planet, and the planet
is completely water, but you can walk around in about

(49:21):
four to five feet it's only about fourty five feet deep.
But then there's this huge hundred foot wave that comes
towards them and they have to get off the planet.
But for every minute they're down on the planet, I'm sorry,
for every hour they're on the planet, ten years passes
on Earth time, right, the theory of relativity, So it's
this you have this moral conversation and this this conundrum

(49:41):
that you know, when they set down on this planet,
his daughter, you know, the actor's daughter is back on Earth.
She is aging rapidly for the amount of time he's
on the planet. So it's just it's it's kind of
one of those mind blowing things. But you know, they've
discovered planets full of water. They've also found an extra
planet called Kepler's seventy eight B is and broad that
is completely covered by oceans of lava. Think about that

(50:03):
for a second. Oceans of lava. Oceans are planets of water,
planets of lava.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Then there's a.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
WASP one B that's w a sp dash one to
one B is a bravo where weather conditions literally cause
rubies and sapphires to rain down lavishly from the skies.
You know, it's raining cats and dogs, we always say
here on Earth, So why can't it rain you know,
sapphires and rubies.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Right, So this is just some of the science that
we know right now.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Now they've found tidal locked planets where you know, with
one half is always blistering under the stars and the heat,
and the other half is actually half freezing and in darkness,
so half light, half dark.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
So they found at least two planets that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Are not even spherical, but they're they're actually egg shaped,
you know, since they orbit their host is as a
star so closely that the gravitational pull actually creates not
a spherical.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Shape, but an oval shape.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So not all planets are around now, I haven't found
any evidence that the Earth is flat. That would be
really weird to look out and see reflection of all
of our planets being round and all, you know, Earth
is just a flat planet.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
That would tell me that we're living in some sort of.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Reality that is a virtual reality by you know, because
everything our planet doesn't look like you know, our universe.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
And again as we look out, but we have found
planets that are egg shaped.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
So astronomers estimate that the Milky Way alone holds one
hundred the Milky Way alone, that's just again we're thinking
one dimensional construct here. The Milky Way alone holds one
hundred to two hundred billion exoplanets. Again, bring the Drake
equation in, bring the dyson'spheres in, and if you're talking
about the whole universe, that number grows to a size

(51:51):
we can't even really estimate today. With hundreds of billions
of galaxies, the universe is filled with trillions of stars.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Astronomers are excited as our technology grows.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
And again with the you know, like I said, with
everything being in with the right proximity of a star,
the size, the mass, the elemental composition, the potential atmosphere,
water cycles could all work together to sustain some sort
of life. So Earth two point zero becomes a much
more reality. It's just can we get there? Can we
evolve with our technology to find ways to get to

(52:31):
these other locations.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Right now, there is an Earth like exoplanet called.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Gleasy six sixty seven, Big Sea, Little Sea, seas and Charlie,
and it lies just twenty two light years away from us,
and it has years that last.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
A mere twenty eight earth days. So again, you know,
our time is based.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
On how many you know, the cycles of our rotation
going around the orbit of the Sun, right but this
one is a mere twenty eight days is one year, so.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
But again it falls within that Goldilocks zone that I
was talking about, and it's it's within striking distance of
you know, stars flares, but it can make it far less.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Or not at all life friendly, you know, because of it.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
It doesn't meet all of the Goldilocks concepts to sustain life.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
So you know, it's it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
You know, another potential Earth like exoplanet is called the
Kepler twenty two B and that one is sixty six
hundred and forty light years away, and it's got a
two hundred and day year, and it's not far off
from Earth's three hundred and sixty five as it orbits
a what's called a G.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Class star like star like ours.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
But Kepler Star is considerably cooler and smaller than the
one at the center of our solar system, which may
turn it to a It may turn a cold shoulder
to life, is what we're saying, because it doesn't fall
within that full goldilocks. But we know that life can
exist and grow at very extreme temperatures, both hot and cold,
deep down in the ocean in Antarctica. So again, you know,

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it's it's going to be interesting as remove forward to
understand our place in the universe. So again I come
back to as I opened the show, all we alone
in the universe with the technology and what we're seeing,
the Drake equation, the Dyson spheres, exoplanets, and our current
search for Earth two point zero.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I think you know that.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Us as humans are not unique, and I don't believe
that we are alone in this vast universe. And again,
you know, as the question was summed up by the
famous Drake equation has been one of the most controversially
and uncertain.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
You know, science in a.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Half century may change soon through our warning twenties of transformation.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
And again we have to ask ourselves.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Rather than asking how many civilizations may exist, now we
have to ask ourselves, are we truly the only technological
species that has ever arisen in a galaxy that's unmathematically
uncomprehensible to current understandings. And you know, I guess we're
gonna have to wait, watch and witness, and to boldly

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go where no one has gone before, as Star Trek
always reminds us. But I hope you enjoy today's conversation
again our search for or two point zero Dyson spheres
and the Drake equation, because I believe these are tools
that we can put into our spiritual awakening conscious toolbox
to help us understand our place in the universe, to
understand ourselves as a species and our place on this

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planet as we move forward. I know there's a lot
of things going on on our planet right now, but again,
in order to get to that piece and that enlightenment,
it's usually you know, preceded by great chaos, And so
I hope you enjoyed the show today, and I look
forward to hanging out with you again and prospecting on
these wonderful topics of exploration and discovering the diamond within

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and the many hidden gems all around us. So until
our next sole adventure together, be kind, be caring, be compassionate,
and most importantly.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Dare to dream. Dare to explore, there, to live and
discover that diamond within. We'll see you next time here.
I'm inspired. Let me take care, everybody,