Redefining Public Speaking with Dr. Kristen Guillory

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author in speaking coach, Doctor Kristen Guillory, who has spent

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nearly twenty years inspiring audiences. The Doctor Kristen Gillery Signature
Speaking Coaching Certification program say that three Times Fast is
rooted in authenticity, healing, freedom, and in financial empowerment and who.

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Doesn't want that in their life?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
The program equips coaches to help speakers unmute powerful voices,
reject code switching, and craft talks that truly transform. Doctor
Gillery is deeply committed to creating legacy, amplifying diverse voices,
and fostering a new generation of speakers who lead with
authenticity and impact. She's been featured on NBC, Fox, CBS Affiliates,

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and Forbes, and is an international speaker, two time author,
mental health professional, and transformational speaking coach. For over twenty
ver years, she has inspired nearly one million people through
her keynotes, her books, her coaching and signature events. In
twenty eighteen, she expanded her impact as a speaking coach,
equipping thousands of voices worldwide through bootcamp retreats and her

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signature programs. Like I said, she is the creator of
the Doctor Christen Gillery's Signature Speaking Coaching Certification program. But
what's great is she is making history as the first
black woman to launch a licensed speaker coaching certificate program
of its kind, So congratulations on that. Known for her
engaging style blending storytelling, humor, music, and vulnerability, Doctor Gillery

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has spoken more than fifteen hundred times at leading organizations
including Walmart, AT and T, Harvard, Ford, TCU, the Urban League,
and numerous schools, churches, and nonprofits, with eighty five percent
of her engagements coming through referrals and a ninety percent
rebooking rate. She believes authentic storytelling is the key to

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creating impact and opportunity beyond her professional achievements. Doctor Gillery
is a proud aunt, a believer in rest and self care,
and a lover of the ocean and dance. She continues
to break barriers normal joy and champion freedom, reminding us,
especially the inspired listening audience today, reminding audiences everywhere that

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authenticity is power.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
And doctor Gilly, I.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Just want to open up with your quote that you
had on your website that says, quote, keep shining. If
your light is too bright, tell them to put their
shades on. Welcome to the show, my friend.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Thank you so much. Absolutely, and if you need some shades,
I have some for you.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Kay.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I love it, Yeah, I love it. I just came back.
This is the first show back. It was out of
country in a beautiful country called Portugal. You may have
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great wine, great food, great beaches. Just what a wonderful experience.
So I'm refreshed and ready to go with this episode.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Tell us a little bit about yourself and how you
got started with all this.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Absolutely, thank you for having me and congratulations on three
thousand followers on Instagram. That is a because you and
I'll be in Portugal myself as well in November, so
I vid here that you had an amazing time. How
did I get started in this very long story short

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I was defending my dissertation twenty years ago and included
in my dissertation the topic was full completion and drop
out factors among African American males, and all I did
I included a couple of pictures of young men that
I had supported, and really that was it. At the
end of my defense, one of my committee members said

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you need to do this, and I said, do what.
I'd like to pass my defense today. Do what? And
she said you need to take this and speak because
this was amazing. And I remember thinking I didn't really
do anything except present research and include one or two
personal stories. And fast forward. I was invited to speak

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to about three hundred students at a high school in Dallas, Texas.
As I was tutoring the teacher and she just learned
about me. She said, wait, how old are you again?
And at that time I was maybe twenty five and
she said, wait, you're working on your doctorate. I said yes,
and she said, our students need to meet you. You're
a young black woman and they need to meet you.
And opportunities just continued like that. I never sought out

(08:26):
to be a speaker, okay never. This is never a
dream or a goal or to be a speaker coach.
I just continued to get invitations and people continue to
reach out and thank me for my vulnerability or thank
me for my energy. Even if the story I shared
was not exactly the person's story, they always were grateful

(08:47):
for that authenticity. What I learned was my vulnerability allowed
other people to be vulnerable, and we don't even have
to have the same story to have a heart connection impact.
And that is how it started.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I love that, and again, thank you for what you're doing.
It's very in line with what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
If you would ask me, you know what two decades
ago that I'd be doing a show and doing the
work that I do and the spiritual pathways of the
work that I do, I would have said I would
have never imagined myself doing that. But again, many times,
from our background and our past and our learned behaviors,
many times, when the student is ready, the teacher appears
and allows us to move into those opportunities because you

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always have free will and choice. Right, you could have
said no to speaking in front of that high school,
but something inside you drove you to say, I want
to share my story. And I love your bio in
the fact that you're all about storytelling, which I think
is a big part of what we need more in
today's society. And being authentic, showing up to your authentic self,
and that's what this show.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Is also about. Now, what did you get your doctorate in?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
If I could ask, absolutely, and social work and statistics.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Social work and statistics great, so you've got data to
help tell the story social work, which I always say
we need more teachers, social workers, nurse and doctors, especially
with our society. And so again, thank you for what
you do and thank you for this program and inspired
to create this new speaking program. So you're the first
to create this coaching certificate. I tried to say it,

(10:15):
hopefully said it correct. I'm not going to say it
three times fast because it's a long but congratulations on
being the first first to create it, especially as a
black woman. So I just want to commend you for
that and talk about public speaking, because you want to
redefine public speaking, and that's really what we put today's
topic as because people hear about public speaking and they
get nervous. I can't stand up in front stage fright.

(10:36):
The list goes on and on, myself included. When you
know I'm getting ready to speak, even before a podcasts,
I sometimes get nervous, but I'm always reminded to get
my butterflies flying, information right, get those butterflies active, because
that's the energy to tell the story or to inspire
others or to teach others. So tell us about public
speaking and redefining public speaking and your viewpoint and your

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program and what you're trying to accomplish.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Absolutely, and thank you. Thank you for the congratulations on
the speaker certification program. I really appreciate that. And I too,
I listen. Yes, I've spoken fifteen hundred times or more.
I still get nervous. I still get nervous, and I
tell my clients and tell people I know. And similar
to what you just said about seeing butterflies, for me,
getting nervous is indication that what I'm doing is important

(11:22):
to me and for me, if I ever go into
a space and I don't have a little bit of nervousness.
That's indication that either I'm walking in a little too
cocky or I didn't pray. And I mean, I know
I call it. I think I'm smelling myself a little bit.
And so we need to come down, dial it down,
and humble yourself if I don't have a little bit

(11:44):
of nervousness in there. And I think one of the reasons,
because public speaking is still the number one fear that
people have, and part of my theory, part of my
theory with it is I think one of the reasons
people are so nervous about public speaking iscom I think
people think that they have to become somebody else on

(12:04):
stage that's not authentically them. So it's maybe offline, you're
talking to a friend, what's up, Stephen, what's up friend?
You know, kind of like that, but you think that
when you get on stage you have to change what
you speak like and good morning, every want that is
not how you talk. So why did you just change
who you are when you got on stage? Because when
people are having one on one conversations, I know it's different.

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I know it's not everybody. You know, one hundred people
in front of you. But I think that's one of
the reasons, is we think that we have to change
who we are. The other part of it is subconsciously
a lot of people. And I have a book that
I titled Look, Stop Hiding, How to Find Your Voice
and Never Didn't You Light Again? And that was dedicated
to my clients because ninety five percent of my amazing

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speaker coaching clients did not realize how amazing and valuable
and gifted they were. I was like, wait a minute,
what is going on? And that continued to happen. So
in terms of story, in terms of authenticity, that on
this journey literally is telling people you are enough. Your

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story is so valuable. I do not worry about the
technical aspect of speaking as much as others. Yes, we
need to make sure content makes sense and flow and
all that stuff. I don't care about killer words, I
don't care about ams and all that stuff, because when
people are comfortable with their story or comfortable enough, those

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go away. And so we spend time ensuring that is
this authentically you is your heart in this There is
a quote that is data changes minds, stories change hearts,
and so much time we spend on doesn't sound perfect.
Is the statistic perfect? And we need that, But it's
like who you are is enough. And the final thing

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I'll say on this piece is I'm sure like you
like me. The gifts that make people continue to book
me over and over and over. This is a secret.
As I say, have a concer ession like Usher the
singer would say, it has nothing to do with my degrees.
Like literally, the gifts that I've been blessed with have
nothing to do with my degrees. I've always been someone

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who's had a voice for people since I was in
the fourth grade. I've always just had this heart to
genuinely see and want to help people. And sometimes I
wish I could turn it off, because sometimes I wish
I could turn off the care, but I can't. And
when I work with these amazing people, it's literally, Hey,
that gift that's always been in you, let's highlight that.

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Or you are a spoken word artist, why are you
putting that to the side. You don't have to separate
that as a speaker, include all of you on stage,
because you're curating an experience for your audience and starts
with you.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Thank you for sharing so many diamonds and all of
those words that you just shared with the listening audience,
and I agree with you. I think that I feel
like we're very like minded. My sister from another mystery,
if you will, and you know, it's it's being about
being in service and showing up to that your authentic self.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
And you're right. In today's age, you know, there's a
lot of fear of failure, right.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I always remind my students my listening audience that failures
first attempt in learning to use that acronym. And you're right,
if you get that, if that nervousness before you speak,
whether it's here on a podcast or in front of
a listening audience of three thousand, embrace that energy. And
like I said, I always put a get your Butterflies
Flying information because there's something energetically energetically powerful about that.

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And once that nervousness goes away, then maybe and I
have the same mindset, maybe I shouldn't do this anymore
if I'm not inspired, if I'm not nervous. If you know,
I love how you talked about being humble. That's actually
one of my mantras because I've learned it time and
time again. Of my fifty plus years on this planet
of be humbled or get humbled, And so I approach

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the same thing and everything I do is trying to
be humble, knowing that yeah, I'm going to fail.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
But again that's a first attempt in learning.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And I think this is a good time for the
listening audience if you want, if you want to learn
more about doctor Christin Guillory, you can go to her website.
It's Christin Gilory dot com. You can also go to
our social media platforms where we have her bio and
her website and her story listed out. If you want
to click through the website or through the social media platform,
stiel free to do that. And for you, my friend,

(16:21):
I love that you worked hard to get your education
because I do think that education is important too, right
And I know you said your education has nothing to
do with and I resonate because I have two degrees myself,
you know, an undergrad, a graduate and study at Stanford.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
But what I do today.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Has nothing to do with my education, which I find fascinating.
But I still think that higher education for the listening audience,
helps shift your perspective and makes you a more well
rounded person.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
It gives you that higher, broader way of.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thinking, critical thinking, and I know you specialize in mental
health as well, which is very important today's society. But
we need more people like you to be in service
to champion, you know, people to be themselves and define themselves. Right,
there's a big spiritual concept that we talk about all
the time.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
To know thyself.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And I think what you're doing is brilliant and beautiful
and keep it up. And I'm just honored to have
you on today's show. So thank you, oh thank you again.
If you want to learn if you want to learn
more about doctor Christin Gillery, go to Christin Guillery dot com.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And now I want to get into some questions for you.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
So we talked about redefining public speaking, and you've mentioned
that most speaking systems weren't created for black women or
people speaking from lived experience. Dive into that a little
bit more for my listening audience, expounding.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
That absolutely absolutely, and so the majority of my clients
are black women. I've supported everyone, and it's not so
much not created for the lived experience, it's most of
the frameworks from my experience were created to highlight a
heart connection. Most frameworks and ways whether the speech class
or whether other systems people are taking. It's very technical,

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but it dismisses people's essence. It dismisses, as I like
to say, dismisses my thought, It dismisses my flavor, It
dismisses parts of my culture. It just dismisses me when
I have to come on and present a watered down
version of myself. And I didn't recognize this until I
began working with all these amazingly brilliant people. And I'll

(18:22):
give you an example. I was working with a woman
and she works in Corporate America, in corporate real estate,
and she had an opportunity to be a part of
a panel. And she was telling me what she was
going to do, and she was nervous because it was
on diversity and she was going to be the only
black woman. And I said, okay, well what are you
going to talk about? And she said, I want to
talk about this and this. And I said, okay, well

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take me back to high school. Tell me about that.
She said, well, high school, you know I was. I
didn't have a lot of friends. I was peeping the
scene trying to find out who my friends are. I said, pause,
I need you to say that when you're on stage.
She said, say what, I said, peep in the scene.
She said, oh, doctor Hillary, WHOA, that's not professional corporate talk.
I said, but is it you? Is that linguerge that

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you used and she said yes. I said, say that
people will understand context clues. Then I said, what did
you find? She said, I found a group that I
loved and it was a step routine. And I started
stepping and there was this hip hop artist I loved.
I said, great, I need you to incorporate lyrics from
a favorite song and I need you to give people
a little taste of a step routine. She began to

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cry and I said what Wait a minute, I said,
what's going on? She said, I never knew that I
could incorporate all of me in a professional setting. I'm overwhelmed.
And that's all it was. To multiply that by at
least a thousand conversations I've had with people. Whether a
client is a vocalist as well, or they have a

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lot of knowledge on nervous system works, incorporate that and
so it just time after time I would see my
clients on stage and say, who in the world was that?
Add one client in the beginning of my journey as
a speak coach, and I said, tell me who you are.
Tell me and she said, okay, well I'm listing this.
I said, no, ma'am, no, ma'am, that is not who
you are. Tell me who you are. And she said,

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doctor Hillary, I think I've been cod switching so much.
I have forgotten who I am. I need you to
help me and those types of things, and not just
black women in truth, but those types of things continue
to come up time after time after time. And I
was like, ooh, wait a minute, how can we allow

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you to share your amazing information, your amazing story while
showing up as you and showing up as you is
actually healing and freedom and liberation. Listen, I didn't know
all these benefits were a part of speaker coaching. And
I'm grateful, right, and you're right.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
There's coaching and then there's over coaching, and that can
be applied to many different sectors, from public speaking to sports.
That your overcoach, that you get to the point where
you don't know how to be or how to perform
or what you're supposed to do because there's so much
confused on, you know, and so I like that approach
of what you're trying to do for your clients. And
given this day and age, you know a lot of

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things that we can be said have been you know,
can always get twisted or you know perspective. How do
you deal with that as a public speaker in your
coaching ability? How do you help people because I'm finding
that there's more and more people that don't want to
speak because they're worried about the trolls or the backlash
of what people are going to say or you know,

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do on social media platforms. You know, how do you
bring that in today's reality of what we're seeing with
communications in today's society.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Great question. The first part of it is that thought
or that fear is real, that is a real feeling.
And a question would be do you believe that you
are in a place a place of being healed enough
to take if someone does not agree, because some may
not and that's the truth. Some may say, ooh, I
actually so, I'll tell you one of my clients who

(21:59):
just graduated from the certification program. She is a fitness
expert and meal prep extraordinary and used to train and
higher ed. Her main topic right now is she was
Christian for her entire life. About nine years ago she
decided pursuing other beliefs and other faith and just saying,

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this is what happened to me, and that's God has
to be bigger than sixty six books in the Bible.
And she was so nervous about leading that publicly and
the group that she was in the majority of the
clients in my coaching from our Christian everybody in the
group said, do that talk. Do that talk? Oh my gosh,
it's needed. And I am so proud of her because

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she didn't. She was so nervous, what are people going
to say? People going to judge me? And on after
graduation they all got three minutes to share whatever they
wanted to share. She chose to use those three minutes
to share that talk, and while she was nervous, she
did it and had so many people who came up
to her and said, thank you for what you said,
thank you for your courage. Even if I don't agree

(23:04):
with you, it's okay. So it's one of those are
you in the place where you believe you're healed enough
to share and do you believe in the message enough
where if people disagree with you that's okay, because here's
the truth. People are disagreeing with us all the time.
We just don't know. The difference now will be the
social media platform, and you know they're talking about you anyway.

(23:24):
So even for me, I have been hesitant on posting
things at times. I will say them at speaking engagements
and coaching sessions, but publicly I sometimes think about, oh
my gosh, what if people disagree with me. And there
is a colleague of mine by the name Well, he's
a colleague of mine, fairly well known, and I always
think about him. I think about him because he gets
comments that are just ridiculous and kind of crazy and rude,

(23:48):
and I think, and he keeps showing up authentically as
him because what he knows he's doing is necessary. And
so I actually am inspired by somebody I know where
I'm like, you know what, this message is more powerful
and more needed than the people who may not disagree,
who may disagree, And that's okay too.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, and again, thank you for sharing that that coaching tip,
just for the fact that I've experienced it myself being
a public figure being in the social media worlds. I
think we're as a as a human species we're working
and evolving through our social media technology platforms.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, I was.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I always say that I'm BC before computers, so I
know the world before computers technology, and now I see
the world with the technology. But you're right, you know,
even before social media, everybody has an opinion, right, I
always say, they're like eyebrows and elbows, and almost everybody
has an opinion. I can't remember if it was Plato
or Aristotle that they talked about the only way you're
not going to get judged in life is by not.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Doing anything, saying anything, or being anything.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So for you listeners out there, show up to life,
be your authentic self. Go out and I always say,
be kind, carrying and compassionate. And get in this public
speaking program with our guest today because I think you
can lean a lot from her teaching and her education
and her life experience. We're going to go to our
one and only break of the show, and when we

(25:09):
come back, doctor Gillery, I have some more questions about
the program, and you know, beyond speaking the impact and
some you know, I know that you have more advice
and diamonds to share with all of us. So we're
going to go to our break, and then when we return,
we're going to pick up the conversation with our special
guest today, doctor Kristin Gillery in her coaching program.

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Welcome back to Inspired Living. Our special guest today, doctor
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and has spent the last twenty years of her journey
in soul a venture inspired audiences.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
And I have no doubt.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
She's inspiring you today here on Inspired Living. If you
want to learn more about her, you can go to
our social media platforms and get the link, or you
can go to Christianguillery dot com. Welcome back, my friend,
and let's continue this awesome interview that we're doing with you,
and let's talk about your program. You were before the break,
you were talking about redefining public speaking and how to

(29:08):
expand on the program challenges, you know, those traditional frameworks,
including what you say in today's age and through social media,
but talk about I loved the part of your program
about the authenticity and the freedom and how you emphasize
that authenticity and that healing. And you talked about rejecting
code switching. Break that down from my listening audience.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
What you mean by that, absolutely, So. Code switching is
when we believe we have to change who we are
to assimilate or to adapt to the particular environment. And
a lot of times it is leaning into what we
believe is the most professional sound because oh no, my
voice sounds a certain way, or are you slag from

(29:52):
time to time? Or I do this, so I have
to change toism. For me, it's rejecting code switching. It's
rejecting that you don't have to switch and change who
you are because who you are is absolutely powerful and enough.
And unfortunately a lot of black people, a lot of
maybe even women and people in general have thought, I

(30:14):
have to co switch, I have to be a certain
way at work. I can't be a woman may feel
I can't come across quote unquote too assertive because people
may think this of me. So I need to come
across a little bit more to me. Whatever it is,
it's wait a minute, wait a minute, Ooh, that is exhausting. So,
first of all, code switching is taxing on our mental health. Okay,
so I'm sure everybody probably has cote switched in some way,

(30:37):
whether it's going to visit family and ooh, I need
to change who I am. And so part of the
experience when I get to work with these amazing people
is we start with you don't have to change who
you are. And how we do that is what I'll
give you an example. I'll talk to them about, well,
tell me the story. Tell me the story that connects
to your I recognized statement. The I recognized statement is

(30:59):
my version of an elevator pitch that I teach my
clients to concisely frame the message so it's target audience,
it's problem you want to address, its solutions, and how
you are the one to talk about this. So I'll say, okay,
there's your problem, there's the audience. Tell me your story,
and as they tell it to me, I'll say, okay,
I want you to say it like that, all right,

(31:19):
I want you to do just like that. And what
happens is it feels too easy because they're like, wait
a minute, I can literally just be myself. Yes, that
is it. Like I know it's going to feel crazy.
Because you have been hiding who you are for so
many years and the freedom in it. What I did

(31:39):
not know, my friend. What I did not know is
at the start of this journey that it would be
healing because one of my gifts similar to you. That's
why I was when I was learning more about you,
I was like, oh, we have some commonalities here, okay,
and one of what we do. One of my gifts
that I've had for years is I have an ability
to be a catalysts for healing. I have an ability

(32:02):
to heal wounds. I have an ability to as people say,
I have the eyes that can see into your soul.
And people sometimes don't look at me in my eyes
because they're like, nope, because you're gonna read me. I'm like, no,
I'm not so anyway, because I have this gift to
help people heal and I can see people. When I
started speaker coaching just in truth, in one of my

(32:24):
journaling and prayer moments, I was praying and said, Okay, Lord,
You've given me this gift to help people heal, but
it's speaker coaching. This is not healing work. Until I
sat back and said, oh, but yes it is. This
is absolutely healing. When someone is now showing up authentically
as them as themselves, it's healing, it's freeing, it's liberation,

(32:46):
it's joy. I mean, it's so much more than I
would have ever thought, just by helping people know that
who they are is absolutely enough. I've seen I've had
I've had clients say my children have noticed a difference
in me because because of working with you, I'm now
so I believe in celebration. That's why I love when
you celebrated your three thousand followers. I have a client
who said, my chields that are now seeing me celebrate

(33:09):
and they've never seen that happen, and that's changing the
whole dynamic of my house. And I thought, oh, this
is way more than putting a talk together. This is freedom, healing, authenticity.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
And you know, it's interesting because you talked about the
code switching, and you know, when you step outside of
the United States, I actually see a lot of in
different countries that I've been to, I see now that
I've put this together about the code switching and people
of how they act in society or behave in society.
Maybe it's you know, it's it's driven by cultural norms
based on that country that you're in, but then behind

(33:43):
closed doors a little bit different, right, So that made
a lot of sense for the code switching. So thank
you for sharing that with me and the listening audience,
because I just came from out of country and so
I saw a lot of code switching.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I even I would even say I was doing a little.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Code switching being in the beautiful country of Portugal. And
we're op to talk after the show because I can
give you some great tips if you've never been there before.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I was there for three almost over three weeks, and
I and.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I even myself would code switch and say people would say,
well where you're from, and like, oh, we're from Canada.
Were our sister city Vancouver. Were not from the United States. So,
you know, even myself doing a little code switching based
on you know, outside perspectives of being in a different country.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
So that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
And you know, you're right you talk about you know,
to know thyself that we're talking about in this episode,
and you know you use the word you know, crazy,
you know, but I also would say uncomfortable to know
thyself this to get to this path of what you
do today didn't come easy. There was probably times that
you're like, what am I doing? Am I crazy? I'm
very uncomfortable. But for the listening audience out there, embrace

(34:45):
that uncomfortability because that is where you're going to learn,
grow and heal and transform the most. And it took
me years to be even comfortable with doing the show
and the work that I do and talk about it publicly.
So you know, that's to know yourself, and that's showing
up for yourself authentically and a little bit of code
switching along the way too. Right. So, and I love

(35:06):
that you said don't worry about the arms, because I'm
really bad at saying all the time. I've even had
I've done Toastmasters, I've done speaking classes, and you get
rid of the arms, and then sometimes I'm just like,
but I don't know what to say except for oms.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
So I appreciate you saying that.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
So here's a couple arms out there, just throwing some
arms out there in today's interviews.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
So kay, And if you would allow me one one
know on the travel colde switching and I know we've
both seen the same thing. I do want to make
one thing clear when we are visiting other people's homes
or other countries. It's one thing to code switches another
to disrespect someone's tradition. So I do want to make

(35:46):
sure to be clear on that where there are certain
countries where certain traditions might be not looking, I'm not
making eye contact and not doing certain things, and that's
just honoring and respecting where you are compared to the
code switching, and there's a difference there. So I just
wanted to make sure to point that point that out.
Those are kind of two different things as well.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, good, good point.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know, good diamond, because again, you know, for all
your travelers out there, international travelers, and I've traveled around
the world, know where you're going, learn the culture of
where you're going. Learn even just the basic five basic
words of hello, thank you, please. You know that's very
important as far as understanding your place in the world
and where you're going. So thank you for pointing that out.

(36:28):
As far as the impact that you found because you've
you know, you've coached over a thousand speakers and who've
gone on, if I'm reading this right, have gone on
to earn more than thirty million dollars. How does this
certification program that you do and you've established and you're
the founder of it. How does the certification build on

(36:49):
that legacy and how does this create opportunities for others?

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yes, when I started realizing that it was working, I
have a friend we've been for since the fifth grade,
and she commented something on a social media post where
I was just sharing receipts like, boom, y'all, look at
my client's receipts. You know they book these engagements, made
this amount of money. And she commented and said, friend,
it's working. And I don't think i'd sat back to

(37:17):
look at Oh my gosh, this really is working. And
one of my clients said to me, because of working
with you, I'm in a different tax bracket now. And
what does that mean? She said, that means my son
won't have to experience some of the things that I
did growing up because of speaking And I was like,

(37:37):
wait a minute. So we can make impact and make money.
And you know, statistics would say that, you know, black
women make you know, like seventy percent on the seventy
cents on the dollar, and et cetera, et cetera. For money,
it is you deserve to be paid a premium and
so we are not changing our numbers. If that person

(37:57):
your number is fifteen thousand, twenty and I can't pay
that or be paid, yes, you can't. So the speaker coaching.
Speaker coaching literally is the reason, one of the reasons
that I am able to live the way I live.
I'm able to support my family and other people the way.
Speaker coaching is the reason I was able to go

(38:19):
on a five months sabbatical traveling to twenty countries last
year and not work. And so I'm so grateful for that.
And I thought, this can't just be for me. This
can't just be for me, because although I've done fairly well,
I've probably given away more than what I've actually charged for.

(38:39):
Because one of my affirmations is I Christian served well
and freely give. And if I am ever led to
give a session, ever led to give discounts or give
tickets to my events, I always do it. And people
will say, are you afraid that you give away too much?
I said absolutely not, ever, never, never. If I do
anything with the energy of manipulation, absolutely that's not me.

(39:04):
So if I have a fortunate but if I have
a five step formula, I'm not going to give you
four steps and say, but you got a REGISIP on
my program to get the fish. I think that's manipulation
because I'm going to give this off to you now,
because if I'm a good coach, I cannot give you
all that I have in three hours, because I should
have five hundred hours of content to teach, for example.

(39:25):
So then with speaker coaching, I'm looking at this as
an opportunity not only for these amazing people who are
speakers as well to be trained under me to become
speaker coaches. And I know what it will do for
them to help their clients. And they said that, they
were like, I feel this is ministry, this is healing work.
Oh my gosh. The money is second to this because

(39:46):
I'm seeing the transformation in my clients and they know
that you will be able to make income. So for me,
it is freedom, financial freedom. The heaviness of any of us.
I struggled financially before, that just is a weight that
is heavy. I know that this is an opportunity where
they will be able to make income impact. I have
multiple clients who we've already made their six figure plans

(40:07):
for the next twelve months and I said, that's a
minimum for some of you. Some of you may not
want you know, may say I only have this much
to dedicate. What do you want to make And I'm
so grateful and excited to be able to do that.
And it's just connected to heart and goodness and healing
and kindness and freedom that you'll probably tell that just
makes me so excited because it's not money first. But

(40:28):
as I tell my clients, if you work with me,
it's not money first, but I will help you get
your coins. I say that, like, I will help you,
but it can't be money first.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, And thank you for sharing that perspective because I
have that we share a lot of the same philosophies.
I always remind my listening audience and my students that
you know, we're the only species that pays to live
here on planet Earth, if you think about it, and
at the end of the day, you don't get to
take any of this great stuff that you accumulate along
your pathway.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
You know, whether you're born.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Rich or born poor, and everything you accumulate, you don't
get to take it with you. And I always remind people,
you know that the secret of life is getting paid
to do what you love, and it sounds very much
to me on my end that you love what you
do bringing joy, bringing healing, bringing transformation, bringing confidence, helping
people step into their authentic self, to know themselves. And

(41:19):
that is the journey because at the end of the day,
listening audience out there, inspired listeners, the greatest commodity that
you have while you're here is your time, because at
the end of the day, that's the only account. We
don't know the balance and we don't know when that
time runs out. So I always remind my listening audience
that your greatest commodity is time, not money. And if
you want to get paid money, go do something that
you love and take this coaching program. You might she

(41:42):
might help you get some coint is what I heard
you say, if I heard that correctly.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
So it is.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
So with any great coach, any great program, you've got
to have a couple acronyms. In my journey of being
coached through my whether sports, ortion or medicine, there's always
acronyms that come up because that's a great way for
people to remember things. You know, if they're listening to
this podcast and they're like, what's something that I could
take away from this interview that you were talking about today.

(42:12):
You've got to have some acronyms, or you've got to
have some manchas that you could share.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
With the listening audience today.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
I do. I don't have any acronyms, but I do
have sayings that I that I often say. At the graduation,
my client surprised me and gifted me some things and
shared words of encouragement that they called doctor g isms.
So apparently I have a lot of phrases because there
were fourteen graduates and they all had a different phrase
to tell me that I say. And my nephews were

(42:39):
in the audience and they said, we knew all the phrases.
And so one of my nephews said, so you're the
same with your clients as you are with us. I said, apparently.
I said what do you think about that? He was like,
that's pretty cool. I said, yeah, Jaden, I don't change.
So one of my phrases is surrender the wind and
the house, which is very often, whether it is that

(43:01):
relationship you want to be in, whether it's that speaking
engagement you want, we focus so much on Oh my gosh,
I need it to happen in thirty days or sixty
days or by this time. But surrender the wind and
the how, and sometimes the who and the where, and
trust the what. Trust that you know what it is
you're supposed to be doing, and trust that. So surrender
the wind and the house. Something else that I will

(43:25):
often say is and we honor that. And what I
mean by that is if they say something they know that,
if they ever come and say a speed for a
talk or a training they want to lead and it's
too low, I'm going to give them the doctor g look,
and I'm going to say, and we honor that and
pick another number. Okay. I will say that I very
often say I reject that. That's one of my biggest ones.

(43:46):
I reject that. And what I mean by that is,
if there's ever a statement or phrase or belief that
is not an alignment with who I am, my purpose
and destiny, I reject that. And I say that all
the time. Nope, I reject that, nopeject. I was actually
in Delaware, the East coast of the United States, this
past weekend. I have a movement called Candid Conversations for Men,

(44:09):
which is a safe space for men to be seen, heard, affirmed,
and celebrated, and I host these all around the country
and someone came up to me and he was making
a joke about something, but it wasn't funny to me,
and so I said, I reject what you just said.
He said what I said, I absolutely reject everything you
just said. I know you're trying to be funny, but
I do not play about this gift. I do not
play about the gifts up and given to help these

(44:30):
men walking freedom. So I reject that. He said, well,
can I shake your hand? I do not want to
shake your hand right now because you just made a joke.
That is not fine. So I'm just giving you an
example about people as I am when I reject that,
and you already said. The first one is if your
light is too bright, they can put on sunglasses. And
the final thing that I often talk about is rest.

(44:51):
And you deserve rest. You deserve soul level rest, because
when you're not rested enough, you you are unintentionally disrespecting
your gift, you're unintentionally disrespecting your audience. And the final
one I'll give you, which is one of my main
speaker coaching statements, is no winging it. That's my number
one speaker coaching rule after authenticity and all that stuff

(45:14):
is do not get on stage and wing it because
that is disrespectful to the audience. Gift, invitation and craft.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I love that and I and I just I knew
that you had some some isms to share with us,
whether they were acronyms or isms.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
You know, it's funny because my students, I have a
weekly development group, and I get that all the time,
the markisms.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Oh, Mark would say this.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
And you don't really when you're passionate and you love
what you do, you don't really think about you know,
because words matter, right, Thoughts become words, words become actions,
actions as energy and become habits and destiny and all
that connection. But there's things when you're just so inspired
and you're in the flow that you're not thinking of
it as a mantra or as a Marxism.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
And then I'll hear I'll hear it back or you know.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
With me being on the country the last few weeks,
I went back and watched the videos and I here, oh,
this is a this is a Markeism. And so I say,
I'm just laughing as you're saying that, because it makes
so much sense. And I love I love that you
promote taking because one of my mantras that I one
of my markeisms is take the time to disconnect so
you can make that time to reconnect. Reconnect to you
and the human journey you you know, reconnect to your soul,

(46:20):
your spirituality, your religion, whatever it is for your journey.
But connect also to your higher self and give yourself
rest because that's also part of that mental health that
we're learning more and more about, you know, technology and medicine.
We're learning a lot about mental health and we're you know,
how much we're exposed to on a daily basis, and
that's why we see dementia and Alzheimer's on the rise

(46:40):
at younger ages. And you know, it's just too much
over stimulation. So I always promote for the listening audience,
you know, use doctor Guillory's website, her mantras, her her isms,
you know, to take that time to disconnect, to make
that time to reconnect and get that rest.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
So thank you for sharing that because I.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Think that's very important in today's society, especially for the
younger generation, because they just go, go, go, and they
don't unplug. You know, they're even out of country, everybody
was plugged into their phones.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I was on the bus.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I'm looking at you know, beautiful countryside and castles from
you know, two thousand years ago, and I look around
and there's just people on their phone, just connected. Break
that habit and stop connecting all the time. In fact,
I just read an article that more of the you
you remember this before the smartphone was just the regular
phones that you used to call into text. They didn't

(47:29):
have any of the social media stuff. They're actually seeing
a rise in people going back to the old cellular
phones without the social media and without all the smartphone technology.
It's kind of interesting that we're kind of going back
to simplicity to kind of get away from that constant
twenty four hour digital connection that we all seem to
be going through. So thank you for sharing that. Thank

(47:49):
you for sharing your isn't with us today.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
For what you do and encouraging rests and unplugging, and
just to add along with the conversation with rest real
quick rest as we know, it's not just taking a nap.
I love that you said I'm plugging rest is I'm
taking a moment to breathe. I'm taking a moment just
to go have fun. I'm going for a walk. That's
actually when people ask me what's the most important thing

(48:16):
people need to do who want to be a speaker,
And I'll give a couple of things, but I'll say
I'll believe it or not. The most important thing to
do is to ensure that you have some type of
guilt free rest regime. And if you are feel guilty,
that's okay too in the beginning. But your rest is
what allows you to deliver the information in a way

(48:37):
that is embodiment and not just I'll give you christ example.
I have a lot of clients who lead on self care.
They talk about self care for their trainings and my
question to them is, do you embody what you're talking about,
because the greatest billboard for your message is you. So
if you are talking about rest and self care and
you yourself don't do that, it's going to come across.

(48:58):
And that happens with me. When I leave trainings on
self care compassion fatigue, people come up to me and say, oh,
this is amazing, thank you so much, And I'll say,
thank you, what was your favorite part? And they always
say you. I say, okay, well what about me? And
they'll say it was you say, okay, thank you so much.
Y'all didn't see my thirty slides on the spray almost

(49:19):
on the screen. No, And what they say is, you're
so tranquil. We know that you rest. You were our
favorite part. And I thought, well, alrighty, then thank you
very much. So thank you for encouraging Rent take that.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, and it's important, and that you're on in your
gift too.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I always tell people to step away and get that,
you know, get that, you know, five months of traveling abroad,
get that three weeks in Portugal, get away from it
all and find you know, the connection, and get away
from just all of the you know. I stand in
the Atlantic Ocean and Portugal and let the ocean take
my stuff out and allow it to bring my sparkle back,
you know, and and make that time for rest and

(49:57):
to honor your gift as well.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
That's a big part of that.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
So, you know, because I can talk to you for hours,
but were always again, we're back to that time. Time
is our greatest commodity. So I want to keep going
because I want you to talk about the impact. Beyond speaking,
I want you to tell us about you know, I
know you've you've coached over a thousand speakers, have made
more than thirty million, But what do you want this

(50:20):
impact to go beyond speaking?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
And advice for aspiring speakers.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
People that may be listening to the show and have
never spoken in front of anybody, or I've never been
a podcast or been interviewed on a podcast. What advice
and what coaching with the time we have left would
you give to the listening audience?

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Absolutely great question, Thank you, and yes we could talk
much longer. I know, to the person who you kind
of want to speak, maybe it's not a huge desire
of yours, or maybe a podcast is the number one
Have some clarity on what you want to talk about.

(50:57):
Have some clarity. The number one question I am posed
from figure clients is how do I don't ask me?
How do I get opportunities? How do I get gigs?
And my question to them is what's your topic? And
very often well, I can talk about anything, and I said,
I bet you can, Absolutely, I bet you can. And
what is your main topic? What is it? And so

(51:19):
for the person who is unsure, the first thing is
what do you want to talk about? Is it your story?
The next thing I would offer them is if you
want to share your story, what part of your story?
Because you can't share it all in a short amount
of time. And then third thing is are you healed
enough to share it unintentionally? There are a lot of
people who are There's a phrase that I heard from

(51:39):
at an event is there's a lot of people uninterested
who are bleeding on stages. They are sharing about their
trauma and they're not healed enough yet. There's an idea
that what you go through is for other people. Sometimes
it's not for other people. Sometimes it's for you to
heal and process through it, and to remember that if
you're not healed enough yet, that's okay. There is something

(52:01):
else that you can talk about too. And then the
thing that you can practically try is call a friend
and say, hey, I think I'm interested in speaking about
my story. Can I just share my story with you?
And just get started, like literally, just get started, and
remember your story is enough, like it's literally you just
get started. And yes, there are things that you can
join along the way to help you put it together,

(52:22):
like working with someone like me, but it's you, and
so I say, go for it, do it, and sure
you are healed enough, and yes, beyond the money for
my clients, the legacy for this is I have to
go back to the word freedom. It really is. It's
knowing that I don't have to show up as anybody

(52:43):
else but myself. I don't have to be a mini
feeling a blank favorite speaker you can feel in that
right and felling a blank. I don't have to be
a mini blah blah blah whoever motivational speaker. You can
show up authentically and exactly as who you are and
that is enough. And so on the financial end, I
do hope that this creates financial legacy for my clients

(53:03):
and other people who get to work, So financial legacy,
financial freedom as well as emotional freedom in the space.
So I'm excited for it to continue going. So this
is going to go on and on and on where
the people who just graduated from my first cohorts are
going to be coming on board to be some of
the coaches in my certification program. So it's going to

(53:23):
grow and grow and grow. And the desire is to
make a significant impact in the public speaking world by
adding in elements of heart and authenticity and a healing
of freedom. A little bit more than it currently.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, I love that. And you know, hold on and
get dragged or let go and be free. The choices
always ours to make in this journey that we call life,
or as you like to say, surrender the win and
the how and trust the what. So thank you so
much for sharing your wisdom today with us, your journey,
any thing that you'd like to share, anything or anyone
that inspires you before we close.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Thank you for asking. I would like to give a shadow. Yes,
my grandmother, Billy Dove Washington, inspired me to have the
voice that I have. My grandmother earned a master's degree
in the early seventies when that was difficult for women
and women of color. My grandmother was a part of
so many different movements. My grandmother would use her voice

(54:25):
and did not care if people disagreed with her. She
started schools in the Dallas Fort Worth area in Texas,
and my grandmother knew what was right was right, you
know for her and I appreciate her voice. And the
final thing that I do want to share for anyone
who may be listening to this. And you may have
a desire to help an audience that you don't think

(54:46):
you can connect to, so you are a man and
you want to speak to women. You're a woman and
to seek to man you are whatever it is. I'm
a woman and I have a movement called Candid Conversations
for Men. I am a single woman who will be
hosting a marriage conference next and what I've learned is
sometimes seemingly the most unlikely person will be the person

(55:06):
who was selected to make the significant impact. And so
no need to have to identify and relate to every
element of your particular audience. If there is something on
your heart and you know you have this calling and
pull to move in that direction, go and do it.
Get up or move or send that email, go and
do it.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Let's do it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Doctor Christin Guillory, thank you so much for being on
with us today. You can go to recite Kristin Gilory
dot com again. All of our social media platforms are
I have her information and I'm just going to close
with your quote, keep shining. If your light is too bright,
tell them to put their shades on. Thank you, my friend,
for being a guest today on Inspired Living.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Keep up the.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Great work, keep inspiring, and I hope to talk with
you again on another episode here of Inspired living. Thank
you so much, Thank you so listen, answer until our
next whole adventure together. Be kind, be caring, be compassionate, and,
most importantly, wherever you out in this world, dare to.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Live and discover the time with it, and we'll see
you next time. Here I'm inspired to figure

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