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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So after much deliberation, I decided to start a band
camp profile, and I wish I'd done it years ago.
Now it's so lovely, it's so easy, so uncomplicated. So
I'd had this experience with word Press trying to create
a website, and it was just cats joined us. It
(00:23):
was just so difficult. And it wasn't difficult because I'm stupid,
although that did help. It was difficult because everything was
so clunky and not at the press of a button,
you know how we when I had a Wix account,
a Wix website, press a button and Hay pressed it
(00:45):
was there's one really good thing about Wix, but I
didn't like this whole Israeli Palestine thing, so I closed that.
I just every time I did something on wis, all
I could think about were dying children. I had to
that in my brain, my obsessive brain, you know. So Anyway,
(01:07):
I started this WordPress and I used my AI assistant
to tell me how to do everything, and it was
pretty good. Actually, I got the paid version. It's like
twenty pound a months or something, and it was pretty good,
but very long winded, and I was, you know, a
whole entire days eating up with just tweaking a page.
(01:30):
It's so slow WordPress to get what you want, your
what you envisage, you know, your what your vision is.
So I've just gone back to all my blogs. I
just know why, Why do I need this amount of
complexity in my life? So I've paid for an annual
website like three hundred quid and I'm not using it.
(01:52):
If anyone wants it, drop me a line, I'll hand
it over. I'm sick of it. I don't want it anyway.
And camp was suggested I think by my AI actually
as somewhere I could sell music and show my videos
but not sell them. And I really like that idea
because nobody buys videos any Nobody's going to buy my videos,
(02:14):
my art videos, Nobody's going to touch them. I know that.
So what I really wanted was somewhere that I could
show my videos that would, you know, people could listen
to the music. I thought that'd be really nice and
better than YouTube, because the thing with YouTube is what
the thing with YouTube is you know that their algorithm
(02:38):
is so unpredictable that some videos I'd put up and
I'd get no views, and then another video I'd put up.
It's almost identical and I get a thousand, and I
just thought, I don't like that. I don't like this
algorithmic feeding module. It feeds content to people. So you know,
(02:59):
I've just taken all myself of YouTube. Well I haven't really.
What I've done, guys is I've set up my fan
club then on band camp. So band camp is tailto
club and I seven one fan clubs, so you get
all my doings there. And I'm taking all of my
music off the distributors that I'm currently using, one of
(03:20):
which is YouTube, who pay me a penny or something
for a thousand downloads. I mean, it's just awful. It's
really awful. I just you know, how can you live
on that? And you think the amount of work that
you've put in over the last sort of ten years,
it's almost a decade where I've been trying to, you know,
(03:43):
engage the world in my musicianship. And it's insulting. I think.
I think that's the crux of it. It's insulting. And
you just think to yourself, you know, if I carry
on like this where my worth is pennies, it's going
to you know, I'm going to feel so despondent about stuff.
(04:04):
I know, as an artist, you have to keep going.
You have to keep going even when nobody likes your
material or nobody is interested in your material. I mean,
I think that's probably more to the point, isn't it.
Nobody's interested. It is that the same as like, no,
not really, it's different. Somebody can be really interested in
(04:26):
your work, but they don't want it on your wall.
I think that's an important distinction between the aesthetic arts
and the and fine arts, you know, the principle of
especially conceptual lot and that sort of thing. I mean,
I think it's the same with music. Actually, it's so
much of my music is experimental, so you know, it's
(04:50):
I find that understandable. But when nobody's interested, it feels
like nobody's interested. I think that's quite harsh, and it's
not very good for your mental health, to be honest.
So yeah, I just thought, well, okay, I mean I
did have quite a few visitors on my website, I
must say, the WordPress one while it was up and running.
But I just felt that I couldn't commit these you know,
(05:14):
I mean, I wasn't sleeping right, I had terrible ibs
all of these things. It was just far too difficult,
So I've just gone back to my blogs anyway, and
then this band camp, which is I've transferred so far,
I have transferred i think six tracks between four and
six tracks. It's a bit noisy in the background there, sorry,
(05:36):
And I've got to transfer about two hundred and seventy
five something like that, including ring tones. There's quite a
lot of ring tones as well, so it's not all
full tracks. But the wonderful thing is I can be
really artistic and I can start making films and story books,
which is what I wanted to do all along with
(05:58):
the music. The music is part of the book, the
Book of Immersion, of course, and I just think, yeah,
I mean, I haven't got any fans yet. So if
you're you're at a loose end and you want to
see some of the films that I make and the
music and how they interact, I'm going to put everything
up there pop along to my band camp. But you
(06:21):
can also sign up for the fan club for Immersion,
the Book of Immersion, And what's exciting about that is
it's only three pounds a month and you can have everything.
You'll be able to watch everything really in depth, you know,
the the oh dear the bottle bank. That's no. I
(06:42):
think that's somebody just nimpting some bottles. You can, you know,
really see everything down to the first line that I
put down in an illustration, and you get all the
chapters as well, individual chapters. You'll get chapters of the
book before they come out, stuff like that. So I
(07:06):
sort of feel a bit cleaner today because I've just
closed down all my YouTube and closed down you know,
the word press, and I just think I want to
live my life, to live my life, I want it
back again, so that here's where we're at. Here is
where we're at. So if you're interested in alternative storytelling,
(07:30):
and I have to call it that because I can't
think of anything else to call it really, but more
to the point, immersive storytelling. So it's immersive because it
combines music. Everybody's making a noise, aren't they in the background.
It combines music with storytelling and visuals. So this is
sort of three dimensional experience that goes on. You can
(07:55):
really delve into it. So, yeah, a new chapter coming
out tomorrow. Actually, I think we're on started twenty three,
so started twenty four tomorrow, and I figure I'll do
a one every other day because the alternate days I
need to do the Ratgang Crew storybooks. And he's get drawing.
(08:18):
What You're making a noise when I'm trying to podcast?
What's wrong with you? It's he just wants attention constantly.
I know what's happened to him recently is because well
I do, don't I because I've I've just told you
what's happened. I've been so busy that I've neglected my cat.
And now he's become this sort of really needy character
(08:40):
who's constantly he pats my mouth so I talk to him.
I'm looking at him now pretending I'm talking to him,
but obviously I'm not. I'm recording a podcast. God, welcome
to my life anyway. So if I plugged everything, yes,
band camp plugged and the fan clubs, of which there
(09:05):
are actually three. One is for the archives of the
Brighton Arts Club and Goddam Media, which are about ten
years old, actually more than that, more like fifteen years old,
and they go way back. But they're very expensive. They're
twenty pounds a month. And the reason I've put them
at that price is because I don't want I don't
(09:25):
want stuff stolen it's all really good archival material and
it's everything that happened in that six year period at
the Brighton Arts Club, so you know, pretty exciting stuff.
And then goddam Media as well, which was I mean,
it's all visual arts, mostly some films. Actually I did
make quite a few films, lots of footage, lots of
(09:48):
documentary footage, and if anybody wants to license any of
that that you will need to approach me. I'm not
putting anything on these licensings. It's YouTube, these companies that
just give you pennies for really hard work. I'm just
not going down that road anymore. I've had enough fit.
(10:12):
I'd rather, you know, just beaver away for the next
decade until I get a bit of creative recognition. But
did on my terms, and nobody needs to have all
of my detritus that I don't really value available on
some stock company website or YouTube, because what you're doing.
(10:38):
What you're doing is you're diluting it. You're diluting people.
That's what people see that they're not going to see
the really good stuff because you don't put the really
good stuff up on these platforms. Having said that, I've
been making some really good shorts lately, which I did
put on YouTube, but you can watch those in the
fan club anyway. So yeah, bit of a bit of
(10:59):
a sort of turn around. But also, you know, I
needed to catch up because I had the debacle with
the you know, the daughter in law and having to
look after her child because she didn't want to for
so long, and not getting my work done, and I
(11:20):
just wanted to catch up really with all that, and
I have. I have. I've caught out, I feel accomplished.
I feel like there's an awful lot of work that's
been done. And the good thing about band camp actually
is I'm uploading to band camp and I'm looking around
to see what I can upload there, and I think,
oh my god, that was a really good film I made,
(11:41):
Or oh wow, I love this track, do you see what
I mean? It's fantastic, isn't it. And also my lyrics,
I've put all my lyrics up there too, and everything
is registered with the PRS, so it doesn't matter if
I take all my stuff off YouTube. My music is
still registered, so if you download and stream my music,
(12:03):
I'll still get paid. So that's really good, isn't it. Okay,
that's that's it. That's it for now. So there's another website,
there's another podcast which is a Book of Immersion, which
features all most sort of book of immersion eyse stuff.
But I'm not I don't know. I can't say I'm
not going to read chapters. I think probably what I'm
going to do is read a couple of sentences of
(12:26):
each new release. Do you see what I mean? I
think that's probably what sort of sneaky way around. Don't
give too much away, don't give too much away. You can't.
You can't behore yourself out, you know how, your body,
but don't are your work, your creativity. That's that's sacrileged
to do that, I think
So after much deliberation, I decided to start a band
camp profile, and I wish I'd done it years ago.
Now it's so lovely, it's so easy, so uncomplicated. So
I'd had this experience with word Press trying to create
a website, and it was just cats joined us. It
(00:23):
was just so difficult. And it wasn't difficult because I'm stupid,
although that did help. It was difficult because everything was
so clunky and not at the press of a button,
you know how we when I had a Wix account,
a Wix website, press a button and Hay pressed it
(00:45):
was there's one really good thing about Wix, but I
didn't like this whole Israeli Palestine thing, so I closed that.
I just every time I did something on wis, all
I could think about were dying children. I had to
that in my brain, my obsessive brain, you know. So Anyway,
(01:07):
I started this WordPress and I used my AI assistant
to tell me how to do everything, and it was
pretty good. Actually, I got the paid version. It's like
twenty pound a months or something, and it was pretty good,
but very long winded, and I was, you know, a
whole entire days eating up with just tweaking a page.
(01:30):
It's so slow WordPress to get what you want, your
what you envisage, you know, your what your vision is.
So I've just gone back to all my blogs. I
just know why, Why do I need this amount of
complexity in my life? So I've paid for an annual
website like three hundred quid and I'm not using it.
(01:52):
If anyone wants it, drop me a line, I'll hand
it over. I'm sick of it. I don't want it anyway.
And camp was suggested I think by my AI actually
as somewhere I could sell music and show my videos
but not sell them. And I really like that idea
because nobody buys videos any Nobody's going to buy my videos,
(02:14):
my art videos, Nobody's going to touch them. I know that.
So what I really wanted was somewhere that I could
show my videos that would, you know, people could listen
to the music. I thought that'd be really nice and
better than YouTube, because the thing with YouTube is what
the thing with YouTube is you know that their algorithm
(02:38):
is so unpredictable that some videos I'd put up and
I'd get no views, and then another video I'd put up.
It's almost identical and I get a thousand, and I
just thought, I don't like that. I don't like this
algorithmic feeding module. It feeds content to people. So you know,
(02:59):
I've just taken all myself of YouTube. Well I haven't really.
What I've done, guys is I've set up my fan
club then on band camp. So band camp is tailto
club and I seven one fan clubs, so you get
all my doings there. And I'm taking all of my
music off the distributors that I'm currently using, one of
(03:20):
which is YouTube, who pay me a penny or something
for a thousand downloads. I mean, it's just awful. It's
really awful. I just you know, how can you live
on that? And you think the amount of work that
you've put in over the last sort of ten years,
it's almost a decade where I've been trying to, you know,
(03:43):
engage the world in my musicianship. And it's insulting. I think.
I think that's the crux of it. It's insulting. And
you just think to yourself, you know, if I carry
on like this where my worth is pennies, it's going
to you know, I'm going to feel so despondent about stuff.
(04:04):
I know, as an artist, you have to keep going.
You have to keep going even when nobody likes your
material or nobody is interested in your material. I mean,
I think that's probably more to the point, isn't it.
Nobody's interested. It is that the same as like, no,
not really, it's different. Somebody can be really interested in
(04:26):
your work, but they don't want it on your wall.
I think that's an important distinction between the aesthetic arts
and the and fine arts, you know, the principle of
especially conceptual lot and that sort of thing. I mean,
I think it's the same with music. Actually, it's so
much of my music is experimental, so you know, it's
(04:50):
I find that understandable. But when nobody's interested, it feels
like nobody's interested. I think that's quite harsh, and it's
not very good for your mental health, to be honest.
So yeah, I just thought, well, okay, I mean I
did have quite a few visitors on my website, I
must say, the WordPress one while it was up and running.
But I just felt that I couldn't commit these you know,
(05:14):
I mean, I wasn't sleeping right, I had terrible ibs
all of these things. It was just far too difficult,
So I've just gone back to my blogs anyway, and
then this band camp, which is I've transferred so far,
I have transferred i think six tracks between four and
six tracks. It's a bit noisy in the background there, sorry,
(05:36):
And I've got to transfer about two hundred and seventy
five something like that, including ring tones. There's quite a
lot of ring tones as well, so it's not all
full tracks. But the wonderful thing is I can be
really artistic and I can start making films and story books,
which is what I wanted to do all along with
(05:58):
the music. The music is part of the book, the
Book of Immersion, of course, and I just think, yeah,
I mean, I haven't got any fans yet. So if
you're you're at a loose end and you want to
see some of the films that I make and the
music and how they interact, I'm going to put everything
up there pop along to my band camp. But you
(06:21):
can also sign up for the fan club for Immersion,
the Book of Immersion, And what's exciting about that is
it's only three pounds a month and you can have everything.
You'll be able to watch everything really in depth, you know,
the the oh dear the bottle bank. That's no. I
(06:42):
think that's somebody just nimpting some bottles. You can, you know,
really see everything down to the first line that I
put down in an illustration, and you get all the
chapters as well, individual chapters. You'll get chapters of the
book before they come out, stuff like that. So I
(07:06):
sort of feel a bit cleaner today because I've just
closed down all my YouTube and closed down you know,
the word press, and I just think I want to
live my life, to live my life, I want it
back again, so that here's where we're at. Here is
where we're at. So if you're interested in alternative storytelling,
(07:30):
and I have to call it that because I can't
think of anything else to call it really, but more
to the point, immersive storytelling. So it's immersive because it
combines music. Everybody's making a noise, aren't they in the background.
It combines music with storytelling and visuals. So this is
sort of three dimensional experience that goes on. You can
(07:55):
really delve into it. So, yeah, a new chapter coming
out tomorrow. Actually, I think we're on started twenty three,
so started twenty four tomorrow, and I figure I'll do
a one every other day because the alternate days I
need to do the Ratgang Crew storybooks. And he's get drawing.
(08:18):
What You're making a noise when I'm trying to podcast?
What's wrong with you? It's he just wants attention constantly.
I know what's happened to him recently is because well
I do, don't I because I've I've just told you
what's happened. I've been so busy that I've neglected my cat.
And now he's become this sort of really needy character
(08:40):
who's constantly he pats my mouth so I talk to him.
I'm looking at him now pretending I'm talking to him,
but obviously I'm not. I'm recording a podcast. God, welcome
to my life anyway. So if I plugged everything, yes,
band camp plugged and the fan clubs, of which there
(09:05):
are actually three. One is for the archives of the
Brighton Arts Club and Goddam Media, which are about ten
years old, actually more than that, more like fifteen years old,
and they go way back. But they're very expensive. They're
twenty pounds a month. And the reason I've put them
at that price is because I don't want I don't
(09:25):
want stuff stolen it's all really good archival material and
it's everything that happened in that six year period at
the Brighton Arts Club, so you know, pretty exciting stuff.
And then goddam Media as well, which was I mean,
it's all visual arts, mostly some films. Actually I did
make quite a few films, lots of footage, lots of
(09:48):
documentary footage, and if anybody wants to license any of
that that you will need to approach me. I'm not
putting anything on these licensings. It's YouTube, these companies that
just give you pennies for really hard work. I'm just
not going down that road anymore. I've had enough fit.
(10:12):
I'd rather, you know, just beaver away for the next
decade until I get a bit of creative recognition. But
did on my terms, and nobody needs to have all
of my detritus that I don't really value available on
some stock company website or YouTube, because what you're doing.
(10:38):
What you're doing is you're diluting it. You're diluting people.
That's what people see that they're not going to see
the really good stuff because you don't put the really
good stuff up on these platforms. Having said that, I've
been making some really good shorts lately, which I did
put on YouTube, but you can watch those in the
fan club anyway. So yeah, bit of a bit of
(10:59):
a sort of turn around. But also, you know, I
needed to catch up because I had the debacle with
the you know, the daughter in law and having to
look after her child because she didn't want to for
so long, and not getting my work done, and I
(11:20):
just wanted to catch up really with all that, and
I have. I have. I've caught out, I feel accomplished.
I feel like there's an awful lot of work that's
been done. And the good thing about band camp actually
is I'm uploading to band camp and I'm looking around
to see what I can upload there, and I think,
oh my god, that was a really good film I made,
(11:41):
Or oh wow, I love this track, do you see what
I mean? It's fantastic, isn't it. And also my lyrics,
I've put all my lyrics up there too, and everything
is registered with the PRS, so it doesn't matter if
I take all my stuff off YouTube. My music is
still registered, so if you download and stream my music,
(12:03):
I'll still get paid. So that's really good, isn't it. Okay,
that's that's it. That's it for now. So there's another website,
there's another podcast which is a Book of Immersion, which
features all most sort of book of immersion eyse stuff.
But I'm not I don't know. I can't say I'm
not going to read chapters. I think probably what I'm
going to do is read a couple of sentences of
(12:26):
each new release. Do you see what I mean? I
think that's probably what sort of sneaky way around. Don't
give too much away, don't give too much away. You can't.
You can't behore yourself out, you know how, your body,
but don't are your work, your creativity. That's that's sacrileged
to do that, I think
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