Episode 05 Trouble at Twin Bells

There's trouble at the new Stuffed Animal Shop in town. Is the owner running the worst scam in history, or is something else going on here? Join us for a strange episode of Cardcaptors this week on Keepers of the Clow! Today, we cover the fifth episode of Cardcaptors - the English adaptation of Card Captor Sakura created by Nelvana in the early 2000's - titled Trouble at Twin Bells.

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Episode Information
Nelvana Title: Trouble at Twin Bells
Original Title: Sakura, Panda, and a Cute Shop
United States Airdate: UNAIRED
Canadian Airdate: March 25th, 2001
Original Airdate: May 5th, 1998

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Episode Transcript

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We are not affiliated with Nelvana,Pioneer Entertainment, Madhouse, Clamp, or
any other relevant license holders. Anystatements and views express are our own and
not endorsed by any license holder.Uh not really, I've had all day
off, I cleaned my apartment.I've been playing Pokemon Emeralds because I have

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a mental illness that manifests itself asplaying Pokemon games. Hey, I can
really, I'm such a Pokemon fantoo, and I go back to the
old ones all the time. I'vedone nos locks and all that stuff.
So yeah, I kept telling myselfI don't want to play these old games
anymore. But like with Nintendo comingout and being like, hey, so
next year, we're shutting down allthe online service like services, and you

(01:10):
know, Pokemon Bank isn't going awaywhen we do that. But also,
you should probably transfer all your pokemonssoon. Okay, so either Pokemon Bank's
going away before or it's gonna havelike a few more months after. So
I figure, if I want toplay any of these old games and be
able to keep any of these PokemonI should like, might as well start
now. Yeah, this might bea fun question for people who also like

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it. What is the farthest backPokemon that you still have access to from?
Like? How far back in yearscan you go? And what game
is it on? Okay, Sothat's an interesting question actually if I delve
into it, because basically I neverreally transferred a lot of my main story
Pokemon off their games. I've justbeen sitting there. But last year I

(01:53):
went ahead and scraped all my oldgames, so that included all of my
Pokemon games going all the way backto Leaf So I currently have a venosaur
named Momig who is waiting for hertime to be in in the Scarlet and
Violet DLC. That thing's all theway back from like two thousand uh whenever

(02:14):
Leaf Green was two thousand and fourfrom which game from Green from Leaf Green?
Leaf Green? So it goes backfor you to the Game Boy Advance.
Yeah, as far back as itpossibly can go. So I have
one that I don't think I couldbring into present day, but I do
still technically have access to it.And it's the first shiny I ever caught,

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which was a yellow audish in PokemonSilver, and then I transferred it
to Pokemon Stadium and it exists onmy Pokemon Stadium cartridge. So I have
a shiny vile plume named Yellish becauseI was creative that still exists and that's
like my thing that because I remembercatching it. It was so freaking exciting,

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you know when that it was brandShinese were brand new and Gen two,
So I don't know, I loveall that. Speaking of Pokemon,
though, there's a trading card gamefor it, Are you into that?
I don't actively play it. SometimesI'll still go buy a card pack,
but no, I don't. Idon't actively play the TCG Are you a
ugi? Are you into any ofthose kinds of things like you guys imagine

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I used to play Yu gi oha lot. I've still also collect cards,
but and I have played Masterduol whenit first came out, but I've
I don't like the competitive scene ofYo. It's just like the game is.
I don't want to sound like augi boomer, but like the game's
unplayable in its current state. Imean, I have to relate because I've

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tried to play it too new andit's sort of like the stuff that we
grew up on that kind of wasmore straightforward, made sense and match with
the show is gone, and nowit's like I'm thinking if if we were
up to date on the show orsomething, maybe no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no no, the show is
completely different from the actual card game. Well they kind of branched away.
Oh yeah, totally like the show. Actually, like the show understands that

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it's a card game between two peopleand there has to be back and forth,
unlike how the game is played inreal life, where it's basically you
flip a coin and one person getsto play Solitaire for five minutes. Like
right, that wouldn't make a goodepisode. So no, they actually play
the game back and forth in theshow, whereas I love how you described
it. Yeah, Modern New Giois just Modern Newgo is just garbage.

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Well, I ask because I don'tknow if I've shown you or mentioned it,
but I am working on a continuationof the Sailor Moon game that was
made in the early two thousands withan arst yeah named Daniel, and we're
continuing it because it was like thecore, bare bones of it. There
was so much heart there. Itwas so it had such a good start

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and it just needed to be arefined and then be continued because they only
did like spots from the first twoseasons. And I've been having so much
fun with that that I realized,I think I like creating card games and
Strategyeez, that's an interesting yes,And so I decided I just sat down
and started writing it out, andI'm designing a Card Captor Sakura one,

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with the idea being that you wouldhave a main deck and then a cloud
card deck. And the sort ofdescriptor of the game is that in this
card game world, the cloud cardshave escaped again and pretty much anyone can
become a card captor, and cardcaptors will sometimes battle like spa like do
magical sparring, and the lore isthat they play for like a victory card,

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so one of like the loser,passes a card onto the winner.
You don't actually have to do that, but you have to fill your star
meter to win the game, andthe way you do that is at the
start of each game, you choosea certain number of your cloud cards from
your cloud deck that escape and theyend up in the wild zone, and

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your job is to then capture otherplayers cards in their wild zone to like,
and you get star meter points andall that. So I've kind of
been building it like that just tosort of see where I land with it,
and I think if I keep goingand refine it, it could be
something pretty fun. Do you haveany interest in working on projects like that.

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I've honestly never built a game likea card game before, so I
don't know how useful I would bein that, but I'm i'd be interested.
I would probably be looking to youfor things like if you're just hearing
lore to the game mechanics, doesthat make sense if you needed lore and
like brain storming, if you neededlore to like apply to the mechanics or

(06:33):
something, Yeah, could totally dothat. Flavor text, got it,
like actual mechanics of the game.Yeah, it'd be all you correct lang.
Well that's fine. I don't wantto control that anyway, but I
need like collect correct language to us, Like if like, for example,
I went with something like a starmeter because it seemed to fit the theme.
You know what I'm saying. Ialso need to decide, like there's

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flipping coins they do gen kN pondor brought paper scissors in the same moon
one. Sure, I need tochoose a mechanic like that and all that.
But anyway, I just thought thatmight be interesting for people to hear
about, and we'll see what comesof it. Yeah, but I'm glad
that we're still rolling ahead because itwas so funny to me that this was

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the next episode after the one wejust had, because I thought the last
one was so good and well,let's let's talk about this one. This
is the first one where we seea market drop in quality of in general.
Yeah, which, but I haveto say I like the name Trouble
at Twin Bells, okay, carYeah, yeah, Okay. Maybe I

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must have missed that other part becauselike, because I only wrote the title
down as Twin Bells, I waslike, Okay, that's that's a weird
title. But yeah, okay,Trouble at Twin Bells makes more sense.
That's what it was listed on thewiki. Anyway, Now, that's that's
probably It's like I've been going bythe file names. The file names are
probably abbreviated. Maybe I did that. Maybe the place I got them from
did that. I don't remember.What is the Japanese or original title.

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It's Sokra, a Panda and adarling little store. They said soccer,
a panda and a cute shop.I don't know what which translation is.
They've probably made smaller, you knowwhat, I didn't write down the Japanese
name. I did think it wasweird that they used the word darling because
that's not the Japanese word that theyuse. Yeah, I thought it was
just an interesting little I thought itwas an interesting translation. Yeah. So

(08:30):
even it's a lot of confusion aboutthe title already. Yeah, this episode
to me is have you ever hearda song that has like a really good
build up and then when it hitsthe climax or that drops the bass or
whatever, it's like terrible and you'relike, great build up? What do
you know? What I mean?I think I know what you made.

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I just want to That's that's thelike map of this episode how it hits
me. I'm curious to see ifpeople will agree by the time, you
know, did you feel that way? I mean, i'd like, I
don't know, I don't I'm sofamiliar with the series at this point that
I don't necessarily have that kind ofemotional roller coaster anymore. But I totally
get how after the first four episodes, this is where this is kind of

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where the show felt like they wereskimping on their budget a little bit to
like roll it forward to a laterepisode because like, yeah, because like
some bigger ones are gonna show upto it. I think it's, you
know, how like a show comesout the gate like with better quality they
have, Like they got a lotof money up front, They had a
lot of time and effort in thosefirst few episodes, and then like they

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kind of they kind of slow downa little bit. It's like running a
marathon where you start going too fast, you we always gotta kind of like
roll back a little bit. That'syeah, that's what this episode feels like.
Yeah, And I think the cardthat they chose to do that with
was a good choice though, becauseif you were gonna go kind of low
budge on a certain card, Ithink this is the one. Yeah,
which is a shame because this isalso one of her like high utility cards.

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But in terms of the actual likecloud Spirit itself, when we see
it, it's like, yeah,what were you supposed to do with this
one? Yeah, let's get intoit. So we start the episode by

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seeing a little girl, who wefind out later is named Chelsea, surrounded
by a bunch of stuffed animals,which, again, I just thought that
was interesting because we've been talking aboutthem a lot. So yeah, so
I don't think that that's not Idon't think that's Chelsea. I think that's
just a girl. I'm pretty surethat's because Yeah, because like the plot

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of this episode is that the girlsgo to a new shop into Amoida in
Readington, which is the actual namein the dub and Chelsea is the one
who buys the panda who is thecatalyst for the events. So that's the
first time she's ever seen it,so it can't be her panda, So
it can't be It can't be herin this first one. She's just generic

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girl, see, And that kindof is one of my issues with it
already, because the pacing on thiswas extremely quick in a lot of ways
to where I felt it was jumpingback and forth a lot and I was
like, wait, who is that? Wait what? Yeah, well it
might have interest you to know theydid make a big cut early. Uh,
So all right, so let's let'slet's go through the early part.

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So we started in the in thegirl's room, uh, and then the
stuffed animals go all crazy dancing around, which I made a point of pointing

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out that, like, there weresome weird sound effects in this scene.
So after that, Soccer is goingto school on a roller blades great sequence,
shows off for shows off for skating, and she comes by a new
store that is opening in town.It's called Twin Bells, and the owner
of it is Maggie. Her nameis dubbed from the Japanese name for maki

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so which as far as name changesgo, that's like one of the least
extreme ones. She then goes toschool and lets Maggie let her set up
the shop. And here's where thecut is, because we then get we
then get like two minutes at theschool of Soccer's life. They do her
cheer practice and then she uh goesdown the hallway and uh sits in on

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Tomoyo going through a music class.So we get the first instance of Tomoyo
singing to show off that you know, she's a she's a good singer.
It's like her her big personality thing, not at all in this episode obviously,
No, I had no idea ifshe was a singer. Yeah,
so that that entire scene. UHis xcized from this, as well as

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basically all the cheering scenes as aresult. Uh. The big plot change,
though it's not a huge plot change, is that in Car Captors,
Uh Sakora is the one who hasto invite the girls to go to Twin
Bells, whereas Uh in the Inthe Japanese version, Chelsea or Chihru is
the one who approaches Soccer and asksher if she's seen the new store and

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wants to go after school. Guys, there was tons of really great stuff.
Wow, I can't wait to checkit out. Hey, do you

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think she'll have any of those newcamera bags in her store? That part
doesn't really change the plot at all. It's just you removed two minutes of
the episode, so you had to. You had to put the impetus on
Soccer to get everyone to Twin Bells. Yeah. I didn't notice that they
had made any cuts there act though, so they did it in a way
that was I guess it flowed wellenough. Also, during her rollerblading scene,

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it's that just around the corner song. Again. I think we've heard
that before already. Yeah, Ithink they use that every time she's skating
outside, now, okay, sothat might just be the skating song.
Yeah. I also, again,I thought it was interesting that even though

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this is where the episode drops downin quality, the whole thing we've been
pointing out where the massive amount ofwork they put in on details like things
like the stuffed animals in her bedroom, and then we have a whole episode
that's about them, and they theydid have to put in work in a
certain way, like with the shopand everything, but I feel like the

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rest of the episode felt a littleplain. You know, Yeah, I
can totally see that. Like,you're you're right. The store Twin Bells
has a lot of individual like assetsto create, you know, if this
was a video game, but samedeal, Like, you know, it's
got a lot of individual things thathad to be drawn to go in the
store. Yeah, but you're you'reright. Uh, this, Yeah,

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this episode is a little it's alittle low energy. It's one of those
kind of more subdued ones where youknow, no animals are dying. Uh,
there's no mortal danger. Really posethere's just kind of like this very
low key mystery of like, isMaggie selling a cursed panda that like,
you know, when you buy itit, it sneaks its way back to

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her shop. Like that's yeah,that's the mystery. And I think it
hits fine if you're like binging orgo even watching three or four in a
row, because it can kind ofbe like that one wasn't the best,
but whatever, on to the nextone. But when we're doing it in
the format of like it almost feelslike it was when it was on TV.
Right, if we were able towatch it in order, it would
have been this last episode and thenwe wait and then this one and then

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we wait. And when it's likefocused like that, it kind of makes
it stand out a little more.I think about how the issues with it.
One thing I did a little detail. I liked, what was Madison
wanting to find in the store thatwas not a stuffed animal? Oh?
Do you remember? I think shewanted something for her camera, right,
she wanted like batteries, a newcamera bag. I thought that okay,

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new camera, new camera bag.That I said batteries because either that's like
that's what she wanted in the subor yeah, I just got the wrong
B word batteries bag like bag atleast makes sense. Although they do cut
it, they do cut it outof that montage, you know where they're
where they're setting up Maggie shop.Uh, they cut this. They cut
the frames where Tomoyo is holding atoy that was made by the Die Dog

(17:15):
Toy Company, so they like,it's a it's a frame where Tomoyo is
holding a box and it zooms inin the box Didog Toy company, and
she smiles. It was it's justa little nod to her family, and
they cut that. That's bummer.I wish they would have kept that because
I noticed some of the other details, like the penguin Sakura was putting away,
reminded me of the slide, andI just thought the whole montage was

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cute. Also, I noticed apainting on the wall that I thought was
really adorable. Do you have anyidea what the painting was of? No,
I free cats out in the sun. It's so cute, Like see
if you can clock it. Ifyou if you go in and look back
at the frames, keep us ofthe trough will be right back. Keepers

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of the Cloud continues, Now,I mean, I'll have to go back
just to get footage, but yeah, okay, I'll make a note to
like look for the three cat painting. Yeah, I love that stuff.
I love looking at all the weirddetails they put in the background because I
feel like when you're an animator workingon a show like this, those are
the things where you get to bekind of the most creative because it's the

(18:33):
lowest requirements put on you. Probablyyou know what I mean. Like,
it's the sort of thing that noone will ever pay attention to, right
except me, and I've pointed outto everyone. But yeah, so I
thought that was cute. I liketwin bells. By the way. In
general, I think we can agreeit's a pretty well done location. It's
a nice little store. It's thesort of thing that I can't imagine exists

(18:56):
or could exist now. But likeit's it's a little I don't know if
the proper term is curio shop atthis point, where it's like it's just
a little toy and other like knickknackshop that you would call a pawn shop
if it weren't for the fact thatit's apparently just purely catering to like stuffed
animals and other like cute crap girlythings. Well, it reminds me of

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the Hello or Not the Hello KiddyStore, the San Rio Store almost in
a way where it's it is justthat kind of thing, and it would
almost be like the shopping experience aspart of why you go there, rather
than the merchandise. Sure, butno, I don't see it doing well
in especially especially not in nineteen ninetyeight, where this is like well past

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the economic collapse in Japan. Imean, it would be a cute little
setup at like a farmer's market.It's like it's clamp. Let's just pretend
that, you know, the economywasn't in a downward spiral at this point.
What a great world to imagine though, that we were, Like,
what if that was something someone couldaspire to. I want to be the
shop owner of a cute stuffed animaland other things store and that and I

(20:08):
can and I can support my lifeLike that would be great. I want
to think that I actually I shouldprobably you should probab talk about it when
we get to that point. ButI have a theory on how that store
runs. I think it's a drugfront. But anyway, not quite but
almost. She's got She's like agrowhouse in the back. It's you've ever

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seen the Show's like she's she's animeNancy Botwin anyway. Uh So, Also,
speaking of quality, I think thisepisode was probably dubbed pretty early in
the process, since we don't knowthe order when how they Yeah, because
I thought a lot of Sakura's lineswere very stiff in a way that they
are not usually so to me,it came off as she was a little

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more green in this one. Idon't know if you picked up on that.
I don't. I didn't make anote of it. I didn't feel
like she was particularly stiff or badin this one. But yeah, you
know, this is only episode five, and going by the theory that these
were dubbed in order and then justnot aired because this episode wasn't aired,
at least it wasn't aired in NorthAmerica, I don't know what it is.

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I don't know if the other onesbefore it were dubbed earlier or not
than this one. But she soundedI think, more confident in them with
her acting. They could have justbeen an off day too, You never
know, cannot always be that orthe director of that day was different,
which could make a big deal,a huge difference. So we just left
off episode wise after they help withthe store, right, Yeah, and

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that's where Chelsea buys the panda thatyou already know there's something wrong with it
because a we the viewers saw itbeing weird. But then Maggie's also like,
you know, showing an expression thatlike that panda's bad news, but
can't stop Chelsea from buying a panda. What a weird thing to have to
think about. Like, I,as an adult, pretty sure that that

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is a cursed toy and I haveto sell it to this little girl because
I will be labeled insane if Itell her that. What an unfortunate position.
It's an unfortunate thing. But Ifeel like you could have controlled it
because it's like, so the loreis that she's allegedly sold that panda multiple
times and it's come back. Uh, stop selling it, yeah exactly,

(22:22):
just like throw it in a fireif you think it's actually cursed, or
just make it the store panda,like it doesn't go. It's like,
yeah, just make it the mascotsomething. I guess. Then we wouldn't
have had an episode. Yeah,exactly. Sometimes you just gotta make Sometimes
you just gotta let the plot.Yeah, just you gotta let the plot
be a plot. Yeah. Soafter she gets the panda, though,
we get to see everyone back inChelsea's room, which I guess you're right.

(22:45):
This room has a lot more stuffedanimals than the the beginning. It's
like a safari in here, don'tyou think so? Sakara? Uh yeah,
hey, Chelsea, where's that?I guess take teddy bill you got
for your birthday? Yep. Andthey're they're all chatting in there, and
then they leave and we hear Ithink it's similar to the sound effects in

(23:07):
the beginning. I noted they werekind of funny here. Yeah, they
hear. They just hear sound andrun back to the room. They say
it's been ransacked and the panda's gone, which they think or well, I
mean they have multiple theories. Ithink maybe you know your standard breaking and
entering, but they don't really havean idea this scene, is it.
The compositing of the scene though,is interesting, like the way the way

(23:30):
the scene is cut where they're walkingthrough the hallway is I don't know exactly
how to describe how different it is, but it's the same way that we
didn't talk about it, but likeduring the montage scene where they're kind of
like it's just like little squares witha little bit of animation and the rest
is black screen. Like, Imade a point of writing down the episode

(23:51):
director's name of this It's Mama ruKanbe, and the animation director was Mako
do Koga, So I'm wondering who'swho's creative insights it was that led to
this unique setup of scenes. Becausethis this episode just visually looks very different
compared to other episodes. It wouldbe nice to find out. The main

(24:14):
thing I took away from that wasthe name Mamoru though, because that's Texedo
masks human. Yeah. Yeah,so I'm gonna go ahead and blame him
just based on that alone. Butno, I get what you're saying.
There were there were a lot ofcreative choices made in this that I would
like to know. They're very differentfrom the, like you said, the
first four episodes, right, Yeah, And I mean there's a lot of
there's a lot of directors throughout theseries so like that that all leave their

(24:40):
their interesting marks, especially also injust how the characters aredraw on Like I
have just note that I have thisgreat graphic that's been passed around for years
of like what Soccer looks like perepisode depending on who the animation director was.
Uh, you know, they're allsubtly different and identifiable if you know
what to look for. Yeah,it's it's the sort of thing where it's
like one of these two people broughtan interesting creative energy to this episode.

(25:07):
Well, what we can do issee who, like if any other ones
land on an episode that feels similarand an aesthetic, and if it matches
or not. I think that Ithink this was the only time Mamaru Kambe
was on an episode I was doingthis. I have an entire I have
an entire Excel sheet of the episodesand directors. I think I already checked

(25:27):
that. It's like this is theonly one that he did, so it
might be him there or she.I actually don't know offhand. Well,
mam Mamaru's yeah, Well we havethis moment between Sakura and Madison after the
panda disappears during what I thought lookedlike pe Class. It is pe Class,
and it is the one it isthe site of our Julian cutt for

(25:52):
this episode. See he's He's inthe episode for exactly two seconds, but
he's there, and I'm counting it. I forgot he exists. You might
as well in this episode because he'snot there at all. He again,

(26:17):
he and Tori are in this episodefor two seconds, and it's basically just
a cameo in the In the subversion, they cut it out of card captors.
So put it up on the board. That's our like sixth Julian cat
Poor Julian. Yeah, I mean, honestly, if it's not easy to
cut it though and have it notfeel like it's missing, I'm just saying,

(26:41):
yes, I'm just saying, poorpoor boy. Our poor boys just
got removed. I know I dolove them though, but it is a
little bit. I think it kindof proves our point though for people that
focus overly too much on that aspectof this show, is that it is
really a small percentage of it.Just object speaking, it was just like
it's it's two seconds of a scenethat you otherwise left in completely after you

(27:04):
already cut two minutes out of theepisode, Like, did you really like
they were just part of the establishingshot? Well, does that mean doing
anything that this conversation was focused moreon that or was it actually just about
the stuffed animal. No, theirconversation was about, you know, was
it a burglar or was it somethingweird? Like you know, I was

(27:26):
thinking something in this equation just doesn'tadd up. What do you mean by
that? Well, we had justleft the room when we heard the noise.
How did someone get in, stealthe panda, and then get out
again so quickly without being noticed?Yeah? I was wondering the same thing
myself. Was it a clock card? They weren't talking like again, Toya

(27:48):
and Yukito were just part of theestablishing shot and they cut them. That's
all I'm really going by there.Like otherwise, Yeah, it plays out
normally. They discuss, uh,discussed maybe it's a cloud card, and
they decide to bring Kiro over tothe store to have him check it out
because Sakora doesn't have the ability tosense cloud cards yet, so they figure

(28:08):
they'll just bring Kiro the cloud carddetector over there. Uh. And then
yeah, I didn't make a Ididn't make a note of it, so
I'm guessing they didn't. They thensoccer is called to, you know,
go do the vaulting horse jump.Yeah, after that. I think they
just they go to the store again. Yeah, they This is what I
was talking about though, because westart the episode and where we see the

(28:32):
unnamed girls room, and then wehave the Sokura on the roller blades,
and then we have Twin Bells,and then we're have her at school getting
everyone to come to Twin Bells,and then we're back at Twin Bells and
and I'm just like, we're weare not even halfway through, and we've
gone back and forth to different locationslike more than seven times already. So

(28:52):
it does kind of This episode mademy head spin a little bit with how
often they changed the location. Likethe Pe conversation was probably less than a
minute long. R Yeah, yeah, it really was needed just to establish
why uh soccer and Madison I'm notneeded again, I just think it.
But but I think because isn't thatalso the Pe thing. Isn't that where

(29:15):
they cut Julian again? Is thatwhat you're talking about? It? So
that made it feel even shorter,you know, And then that's why when
you jump from that back to thestore, it's like, oh my god,
we're here again already. What speakthough? What was what was Maggie's
big solution to this issue. Whatdid she want to do? Oh okay,

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so like, well, okay,so this cuts the shot her.
Yeah, this cuts back to mytheory of like how the store actually runs.
So so in the in the dubIn Car gapters, they go back
there and they talk to Maggie andshe, you know, she finds the
panda and she's like, oh no, the panda's back, uh, and
she kind of just kind of sadsacks throughout this entire sequel, ends of

(30:00):
thinking that she's just going to closethe store and give up. See,
rumors started that if you bought atoy from my store, someone would steal
it and bring it back, butthe criminal was never found. They even
accused me of doing it. Ohmaybe I should just close the shop.
Whereas in the subversion they actually cutpart of this conversation out where Maggie reveals

(30:26):
that her husband died recently, soshe's been she opened this store because I
guess she and him had wanted toopen a store together. So you know,
she's she's carrying on his legacy withthe store. But the fact that
the panda kept coming back to herand made people start spreading rumors that she

(30:47):
was like selling merchandise that she wouldthen steal back and resell, so you
know, she's a she's a crookedbusiness owner. But yeah, my theory
was just that, like, thereason the store can survive at all is
because it's being fronted by a massivelife insurance checked. Do you know what
it kind of I know what itreminds me of is like the people who
they have, like the homing pigeons, or they'll train an animal to come

(31:10):
back to them after they sell theanimal or something. Dud know what I'm
talking about. Yeah, it feltkind of like that. But also that
theory that people like, I thinkthey portray her like she's worried. People
think she's what you said, stealingthe merchandise back and reselling it. What
a horrible business model to do thatwith like a five dollars doy exactly.

(31:30):
Yeah, Yeah, it sounds itsounds stupid when you say it out loud,
but like, but it's fun tothink about it. Yeah, But
when you're in a situation where you'rea shop owner and you sell this one
unique item that keeps finding its wayback to your store and you can't explain
it Okay, the answer is eitheryou know cursed object or your cursed one

(31:55):
or the other. Yeah. Althoughmy whole point though, was like her
go to as we should just closethe whole store, and I'm like,
why can't this lady get that ifshe just stops selling the specific toy that's
giving her problems, she might beokay, yeah, yeah, that's why
I said she was kind of likesad, sacky about it instead of just

(32:15):
yeah, just through the panda anda fire. That might have been a
horrible decision, though I can't Whatwould happen do you think if a human
accidentally attacked a cloud card like that? Well, we find out later in
the episode that the card can justmove from body to body at will,
So honestly, if it was inthe cloud card, if it was in

(32:37):
that animal right as she was aboutto throw in the fireplace, they would
probably just jump to one of them. That makes sense, uh, And
in terms of the question of whathappens if a person, if a regular
person tried to attack a cloud card, I'm not actually sure that there's ever
been an instance of well, okay, there have been instances of it.
That's uh. That's a couple episodesdown the line with Silent, where her

(32:59):
whole thing was just like, ifyou make noise near her, she'll just
push you out of the room.Presumably, you know, if a cloud
card is capable of defending itself atwill, that makes sense. But it
seems like they won't actually try toharm. Most of them won't anyway try
to have a person unless they haveto, unless you're watering and you want
to drown people. That seems tobe the only one so far that's tried

(33:19):
to hurt anyone. Shadow was moremischievous and destruct Yeah, and Fiery.
I mean, like Fiery just seta place on fire. Can you blame
her? Her? She's literally madea fire, right, It's kind of
just like what do you want herto do? I noted that they discussed
that they're going to come investigated againat night, and most cloud things to
happen at night. I think we'vesaid that before, Yeah, but just

(33:42):
in case. That is a detailthat they chose to do with this series
that was not done in Sailor Mood. That I appreciate a lot because it
does it's like a more realistic approachbecause she has to be in school,
so she can't be school like alot of Cloud cards. I I don't
know if the series ever explicitly saysthat it has to be at night.

(34:04):
Maybe yeah, the Dubs says that, but I don't know if it's necessarily
the case that the cloud card orthe Cloud cards aren't necessarily active at night
or yeah. No, I thinkit's just when she's free exactly. Like
That's why I like it, becauseit does make sense. It would be
weirder if she was constantly just likeby and not at school randomly to do
this, and then then we haveto deal with her explaining that to people

(34:29):
and like, why weren't you inschool? And it creates this whole mess
that is not interesting. So yeah, that's that's very much a showonen thing.
It's not so much. Well,it definitely happens in shojo stuff too,
But yeah, Socco got lucky thatmost of the cards either attack on
weekends or after hours. Keepers ofthe Plow will return after these messages,

(35:14):
and now we returned to Keepers ofthe Cloud. Maggie, and that team
made the other day was so delicious? Do you think you could teach me
how to make it? Of course? Madison? How does what is the

(35:37):
plan and how does how does itgo down when they get back to Twin
Bells later? So, like Isaid, the plan was to bring Hero
the cloud character detector to just justgo around the place and look. And
while they're doing that, they havethey have Madison distracting Maggie in a sequence

(35:57):
that is actually completely unchanged from theJapanese version. Did you know that video
editing is all digitized now? Youcan do everything on your computer. All
you have to do is drag anddrop scenes. You can do dissolves,
render effects, add titles, andmusic all on your desktop. I download
all of my TV footage to theDon't worry up, I'm going to try

(36:22):
to have things to talk about.I think my mom's website, because she
asked Maggie to teach her how touh, how to make the tea that
they had earlier in the episode.And then when the tea discussed, like
when the te process is done,she still got a distractor for like several
minutes. So she starts talking aboutthe origin of tea and you know,

(36:42):
editing videos and camera stuff, andthat that conversation is almost like word for
word, the same thing that shewas doing in the Japanese version. Well,
I'm glad they kept it because thatwas one of my favorite micro details
of this episode. I noted specificallyMadis and getting excited to tell her about
the camera and the video editing andall of that, because it was like

(37:05):
it was a cute facet of herpersonality that I also thought was delivered so
well by help me out with MaggieMaggie O'Hara, Maggie O'Hara, because it
was just like this bubbly like yeah, I'm having this conversation and I'm explaining
it. But she did it ina way where she didn't like pause enough
to let Maggie jump in or whatever, and it was just fun and I

(37:27):
liked her going off about the thingsthat were interesting to her. I missed
the tea part of it, Ithink because I was writing a note because
it comes up again later and Iwas like, what tea? But now
I understand that, well, yeah, yeah, that's that's how it goes.
It was like, hey, teachme how to make this tea,
and then that's like, okay,I should go back to my chop.
Actually, did you know that thehistory of tea is that? And then
you know she runs out of teathings talk about, so she does the

(37:51):
proper thing for public speakers to do, which is when you run out of
one topic, you fall back onsomething that you could talk at length about.
And yeah, for Tomo, it'seither video editing or sewing. Yeah,
I know there's something magic around you. Well maybe it left the store
again. Well that's it, that'sthe Choo card. Uh, And we

(38:15):
get oh, well, after wellall this is going on, we find
the cloud carter Sakura does in abox and I note it. I enjoyed
the detail of the blue and yellowband around the box. I have a
thing about different colored bands. Ijust enjoy it. But so that was
there, and then we get thecard named finally, which is what that's

(38:36):
the Choo car the Jump card.Yes, and what does it look like
in its form? Nothing like whatit looks like on the car, that's
for sure. It's probably the mostdifferent of the cards in terms of its
card form, and it's true formquote unquote. It's this it's this pink
rabbit kind of looking thing. Yeah, it's just straight up a rabbit,

(39:00):
I guess with he's sort of pinkfurby combined with Macona from Magic Night Ray
Earth. I hadn't thought of Macona, but you're right. It's like he's
got the same long legs, thesame the same body, Yeah, basically
the same, basically the same bodya lot like thinner ears. And he's
got a tail, uh, comingout of the back. So it's kind

(39:22):
of like it's kind of like ifMacona got struck by lightning. Yeah,
because he's got because it's also gotlike the little frizz of fur around it
too. It's not it's not likequite a it's not quite smooth like Macona
is. This might be my leastfavorite of the all of the Cloud Card's
true forms, and I think someof their true forms are just object Yeah,

(39:43):
he's uh, he's he's a bitrough. It's I don't get why
it had to be so ugly,like why does it look like that?
And then and then also, likeyou said, it's so drastically different from
the design on the card. Ithink that disconnect sort of sticks for me
mentally in a way that's hard toget past. And I think all the

(40:05):
other ones they're not exactly the same, but you see the connection very clearly.
Yeah, there's generally not because likeon the card form, Jump has
wings and looks more like just aa more standard rabbit. It's like a
rabbit kind of yeah, whereas Jumpis just like it's it's hit it.
Yeah, it's this hideous furby thing, and that it looks dirty to me.

(40:29):
Yeah, it's part of it,very unkempt. It's it's weird,
like so fun fact about the manga, the Jump card is technically the first
cloud card we ever see, becausethat's like, that's like page two of
the manga. Uh, you seethis thing? And I wonder if that
was a case of, like,very very early on in the series,
they actually had a you know,very early on they were trying different philosophies

(40:52):
for like what the cards would looklike in their card form and out of
their card form, and maybe theyinitially started out with an idea of having
the cards look more different when they'reout of their cards, and Jump just
happens to be the prototype of that. That's that's just my theory on that.
I don't necessarily know, because Iknow you're saying it looks the same

(41:13):
in the manga. Yeah, inthe manga, it also looks like this,
So either way, it doesn't looklike it does on the card,
and yeah, I totally get howit's kind of like, eh, yeah,
I The funny thing is, though, as far as the utility of
this card, it is one ofmy favorites. It is, and it's
got it like like when you castthis card, because you don't see it

(41:34):
in this episode, but you'll seejump throughout the series, like yeah,
it just manifests a yeah, itjust manifests a pair of wings on her
feet, and it's like, yeah, that's peak design, Like that's great.
I love that, love seeing Ilove seeing this card be used,
hate seeing it on its own.Speaking of when she uses it, it
kind of reminds me of the hoverboots from Zelda Legend of Zelda Ocarina of

(41:55):
Time for anyone, Yeah, samedeal like wing like wing shoes, Like
mm hmm. Either way, itworks, so I at least it has
points for that. But after wepulled the card, it kind of starts
freaking out and jumping around and Sakuramanages to grab onto it and then gets
launched like up into the sky.And this part, for anyone who's scared

(42:32):
of heights, I'm sure they wouldbe like, oh my gosh, because
I would feel that way, AndI'm impressed again with Sakura's ability to think
clearly in moments like this, becauseshe's essentially let's go and it's free falling
down. Yeah, Like she eitherlets go of it or loses grip on
it either way. Yeah, She'slike, she's like a thousand feet in

(42:52):
the air at this point. Itwould be indeed a very unnerving position.
When she looks down, it's basicallylooney Tune style, like you look down,
you realize how high you are,and now you're falling. Yeah.
But yes, she keeps her witsabout her and pulls out the fly card

(43:22):
once again, doing exactly like episodeone where she throws the card and it
conveniently boomerangs back into swinging range.I'm just thinking, like, boy,
you're really lucky that that's how thatworks. Is it seems like the worst
idea to throw your spell away,but yeah, you know, dramatic animated

(43:43):
flare, Like I feel like Iwould not be throwing these cards like this.
Well, it seems that they kindof once they've captured the card.
I think the way I explain itis they still have control over the physical
card itself to a certain degree,and when they're acting being their magical powers.
It's kind of like the card is. Once it's thrown, it's being

(44:04):
activated, and it'll position itself whereit needs to go. That's the way
I always sort of thought about it, Yeah, like the fair enough way
of it's dramatic animated flair. Yeah, that was one of my favorite parts
of the episode was her summoning flywhen she was falling. I thought they
did such a good job. Whenshe turns, there's this little like feather

(44:25):
animation thing that was really well done. And then like I said, this
was a great build up. Thisgave you a lot of like adrenaline.
And then the way that she correctsthe situation I thought was pretty epic.
Even for just using the fly card. We land and it still keeps going
in a positive way here for me. And she uses wood to create sort

(44:50):
of like a forest dome around Jumpand I love that because not only was
the animation great, I thought theapplication wood car more of a cage of
bridge just tramp jump relics or theidea to sort of cage it in something

(45:29):
and to use wood instead of windywood is a little more sturdy, you
know. Yeah, it probably couldhave escaped yeah, and it's just again
a gentle way of doing it.What happens after that, granted, granted,
you know it escapes from Wood too, mostly because well you can get
through the canopy. Well, yeah, because she she captures Wood and then
Madison shows up and says, didyou catch the car yet? No?

(45:51):
I have it? Great? Letme film that part. Huh, Sokara,
have you filed the card yet?I'm just about to good miss it.
Unfortunately, that amount of delay isenough to give to give Jump the
ability to break out of the outof the dome. Otherwise, like Soccer
probably could have captured Jump right thereif she hadn't stopped and given like Jump

(46:16):
the opportunity to leave. Yeah,but that's when that's when Jump uh gets
its way out and picks up theWe kind of glossed over it, but
like Jump ran out of the storewith honestly, way more stuffed animals than
we're in that store, Let's beentirely honest. But yeah, he gets
all of those and forms this giantAcura like uh colossus version of itself out

(46:42):
of stuffed animals, and where itlost me a little. Yeah, So
this this one also kind of lostme a little bit in the sense that
so they changed the sound that jumpmakes because so in the in Car Captors
they of him kind of like agodzilla roar sort of thing. You know,

(47:09):
it's turned to a giant rabbit andthe reference clearly. Yeah, it
roars like a like a giant monsterwould, whereas in carcaptri sokra in keeping
with the series, Uh, theseries trend of like being serious but not
too serious. It makes this boyingsound. Yeah, when it roars,

(47:37):
it's like, you know, thesound of like when a door stopper gets
kicked the boss. Yeah, itmakes that sound as a giant rabbit.
So it's kind of weird change.Like I feel like, I feel like
they could have left it. Yeah, they could have left it as the
boying. But this is again,this is Car Captors. You mean,
this is car Captor's effort to uhtoughen up the show's image a little bit.

(48:01):
So they took it at the expenseof taking out some of the comedy.
Oh you mean wait, so youmean it made the boying sound in
the original version. Yeah, itmakes the boying sound. Okay, it
makes it, whereas in Car Captors, because they want the show to be
more serious. They take out theytook out the boying, and they gave
it a Godzilla rar. I thinkthe boying would have made it a little

(48:22):
more fun. I the reason thislost me is because it's so far.
All of the other cards have sortof the influence they have over the world,
and the way they function has somethingto do with what they are,
right, and there absolutely was nothingto do with Jump that would say this
thing can absorb a ton of stuffedanimals and become a bigger version of itself

(48:44):
which then can no longer jump andhas to walk so freaking slut like it
made itself not what it was.Does that make sense? No, I
totally get you, Like I've Iagree, I've never understood why Jump controls
stuffed animals other than just like theysay, off handed, and it was
like, well, it kind oflooks like a stuffed animal. Maybe it
wanted friends. It feels like lazy, lazy storytelling to me. It feels

(49:07):
like this is one of those cardswhere it's like they couldn't think of anything
better too. Well, No,okay, so I do have I do
feel like there are some cards thatwere like were created because they felt like
there was a good scenario to write, but the card itself is fairly useless.
This is kind of like the oppositewhere like the jump card is one

(49:29):
of the most useful cards in thedeck, but they had no idea how
to make jump, like how tomake jumping a challenge potato sack race,
So they just gave it a differentThey just gave it an unrelated power.
I think there were so many waysthat they could have had this be more
interesting. They could have done somethingwhen it comes to gymnastics and had it

(49:51):
be like interfering with that in someway, like trampolines. We had the
minute where they were in physic likethe pe class. There's all kind of
sports that has jump in in it. Like, there were so many things
they could have done that it justfelt like, like you said, they
didn't know what to do, andfor some reason they didn't try to figure
it out. They like went withan idea that maybe they knew wasn't that

(50:14):
good. Also, the way itgets defeated, it just exhausts itself and
falls over it just which I burstkind I think it's hilarious because yeah,

(50:51):
that's but it is. Yeah,it is very anti climatic that it's just
like it gets into this giant formand then it trips over its own feet
falls apart. So yeah, it'syou're right. I think this card could
have had more going for it,Like it could have just been a chase
through the city kind of card,just because of how mobile it is.
But yeah, do you know howthough, the way that the card capture

(51:14):
ends, it's like it has There'sthe whole mystery in the beginning, which
is I would say, is fine. Then the actual once you get into
the mystery at night and you startgoing after the card, it really ramps
up in a really great way.And then you get to the end of
it and nothing happened. Yeah,and you're just like what, Yeah,
you're you're right. The pacing ofthis episode is kind of all over the

(51:37):
place. That's horrible. I don'tthink like, I don't really feel like
I don't feel like the cuts madeto it by car captors are really at
all faults in that it's no purelyoriginal sin of just this episode was just
poorly paced. I think the cutsmaybe made the pacing stand out like ten
percent more, but I think Iwould have noticed it either way. Yeah,

(51:57):
because they still did have to cut, like, yeah, yeah,
you have to cut like four minutesout of every episode. Did you notice
though, when she captured it thatthe card looked like gigantic when it landed
in her hand. I didn't reallymake a note of it, but yeah,
that's that's sort of a thing wherelike, well, I think maybe
it's because it was huge when shecaptured it. No, that's that's just
straight up it's just straight up animationera. Go look at that frame.

(52:21):
You'll be like, why is thecard like the size of her Maybe?
Yeah, because there's there are thereare sheets that I have that show like
they were very meticulous and showing likehow large things should be in relation to
Sakra. But sometimes things just kindof fall through the cracks and that doesn't
happen. What is the real challengeof this episode that Madison reveals at the

(52:45):
end though, But they have toget all of the stuffed animals back.
Yeah, to the store. There'slike hundreds of them. Keep us of
the trow We'll be right back.Keepers of the Cloud continues. Now,

(53:14):
it was a great job, butthat was easy. Kiro Shell cards a
real butter, But it's not thesmartest card in the book. Now,
for the hard part. What doyou mean, Well, just that the
three of us have to take allthese toys back to Maggie's shock. We

(53:40):
end up back at Twin Bells andwe see Chelsea buying another toy and it's
a stuffed lion this time, andMadison says, it seems like Chelsea doesn't
know about the jump card. Ithink they must have just been like trying
to emphasize that it's still a secret, right, Yeah, it's a thing
that no one ever figured out whathappened. And Maggie like passed out when

(54:02):
the jump card did all the shenanigansin her house, so you know,
she she completely forgot and apparently shemust have just paid for a new window
or insurance did to cash another massiveinsurance check for her. Yeah, it's
like it's returning to the status quo. Is very common in all card capitor
soccer episodes, where there really isn'tany kind of there really isn't any kind

(54:25):
of like long term damage. Well, and I thought that was a I
think throughout the series it's probably aparallel to real life in the sense that
unfortunately, even sometimes the worst newsit's like after two or three weeks.
Most people do forget and not everyoneLike I'm I guess unfortunate enough to be

(54:45):
someone who remembers almost everything. Butwhen you talk like the older you get,
you realize a lot of people reallydon't, like they really forget after
a week or two, and you'relike, oh, okay, so yeah.
It is kind of a thing whereif you've ever dealt with someone who
yuh like, when they're younger,they're dealing with something maybe messed up that
happened to them, you do haveto remind them. Like most people won't

(55:07):
even remember this in a couple ofweeks. You probably won't even care.
No, probably not. It's likedepending on what it is. No,
it's it's subverted in this this memeI have where it's like, you know,
try to think of like I know, you feel bad, but you
know, think of the cringiest thingthat someone else has ever done. You
can't think of one, right,that's because only you are cringey. You

(55:28):
are the only cringey person in theworld. Well, no, it's like
it's bamboozled. But no, yeah, it's it's like literally no one cares,
like well, because everyone's too busybeing worried that they're cringeyah, exactly
like you screwed, like you trippedit. You tripped in front of a
crowd full of people. It's like, great, you're gonna remember that for
the rest of your life. Everyoneelse is gonna forget about it because it

(55:49):
wasn't unless you're wearing a grade applike a standout outfit. Then they might
be like, remember when that guyand the bunny ears fell down? That
was weird? No, but yeah, it's it's one of those things where
it's kind of like this never evenreally got resolved and everyone's already moving on,
like everything's chill. So it's verymuch like real life. Do we
want to rate the episode before orafter Kiro's Corner, we might as well

(56:13):
do it after Hero's Corner. There'sonly one thing I want to say about
Kiro's Corner, uh, and it'sthe uh the apparent lore drop that that
Kiro makes, which is that theythey claim that the house was built right
after Tory was the built this twostory house the year that Tory was born
born, which is, yeah,an interesting bit of lore that's not in

(56:34):
the original series, so cool,like that completely counteracts things that are established
much much, much later. It'skind of a cute thought though. I
just let Matt Hill just like adlib and add whatever he wants to the
series. Well, there was nocostume this week, so there was not
It's just just that nice dress,which I wrote. When I first saw

(56:58):
the dress, I was like,Oh, I kind of like it's like
little House on the Prairie but not. And then when I realized that was
the outfit, I was like,I don't like it so much anymore.
I like that outfit. It mightalso just be biased because I actually own
a cell of that outfit, fairenough, but also that outfit is one
of the only ones in the seriesthat Soccer wears more than once. Yeah,

(57:22):
because she actually wears it in thismight actually be an appropriate callback.
She wears it in the shot Cardepisode where in the shot Card episode she
actually flashes back to this episode,so like it might have just been an
intentional callback. Is why she's wearingthis dress again. Yeah, for a
for a series where Soccer has avery very deep wardrobe, this is one

(57:44):
of the only outfits she wears morethan once. Well, that actually is
kind of interesting. It's just anice blue dress with a sunflower on it.
I think that's a sun No,that's not a sunflower, that's a
it's long sleeves, right, yeah, it's long. I think it's a
cosmo. The thing on her,the thing on dress, I think it's
a cosmo. And what color isit? Teal white? The flower is
white? The I think I thinkthe No, the dress is a dark

(58:08):
blue? Dark blue? Okay?With that it looks I mean it's a
nice looking little outfit. And Inoted it in that way. It just
didn't read as like a capture costumeto me at all, you know,
No, it was just a casualdress. Yeah, which you know is
interesting that they that Toyo did notbring a costume for her to wear when
they were going explicitly to capture acard. But this was this was a

(58:31):
time where Tomoyo was running interference andactually this kind of was a this was
purely a stealth mission. So no, soccer actually couldn't wear like costume or
I was just gonna ask if youthought it was a budget saving thing or
actually related to the story, ButI think you just explained it. I
think that makes sense. Yeah,it just narrative wise, it makes more

(58:53):
sense that she couldn't wear a costumebecause they needed to distract Maggie, And
yeah, it'd be really hard todo that if Soccer showed up wearing some
weird outfit and then Madison tried toget Maggie out of the house or like
get her out of the store.You're right, all right then, So
there you go. There's the costume. Let us know what you guys think

(59:14):
are about not the not costume,about the dress that will return in the
comments. And let's rate the episode. How many stars do you give this
one? So this one is?This one's easily an episode that I don't
feel guilty about giving like a twoon like it. Like in turn,
the only thing that's important about thisepisode is giving her probably her most useful

(59:36):
card afterfly. But beyond that asan episode, as a piece of media,
it's at or below out. Okay, I think that's fair. I
gave it three out of five,just one above you, which I think
the thing that made it go abovea two for me was specifically the scene
when she's falling from the sky upto the point of the thing escaping from

(01:00:00):
would because I thought that that buildup was done so incredibly well that I
gave it kind of like a littlebit of a reprieve for it, but
I had to knock two stars offof it for the pacing and for the
design of jump as it's as itstrue form, and then also for the
way that everything ended. It wasjust so so blah blah ending. I'm

(01:00:22):
actually gonna give that one star back. I'm gonna give it three just because
you might not like the anti climaticway that jump was solved, but I
thought it was good to get.It calls back to it calls back to
Car Captor Soccer's trend of taking itselfseriously but not too seriously. I think
it keeps it. It keeps theseries light hard enough. I think you

(01:00:45):
know what. I think, likeyou were saying, if that boying sound
effect had been kept in, thenit would have made more sense why there
was a comedic ending to it.But because they kept it like so so
serious all the way up until whenit fell over, you never saw that
it was supposed to be funny reallyuntil then, and so when that happens,

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you're like, it's not funny,it's annoying. That's actually stupid.
Yeah, I think you clocked it. They this episode, excuse my French
by getting rid of the boying.But I think that's it. I think
that is where this episode lost itsway. And that edit is a card

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captor edit, so that is absolutelyI blame it on card capters. They
they screwed it up by trying tomake a jump threatening just forgetting the fact
that it's not threatening at all.It's not supposed to be. Uh like
it's it's it's very much a facadecloud card. It looks intimidating, but

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it's a paper tiger or in thiscase, a stuffed animal, right.
Uh And and I think that itshows how important things like subtle sound effects
really are when you are creating thingslike this, because a change as small
as that was enough to throw thewhole tone of everything off to the point
where at least I mean other people. If you guys are able to watch

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it, let me know if younotice this too. But it does.
You can't clock the humor because it'sso aggressively, like the sound effects are
so aggressive, and that makes itnot lay later, you know. So
I'm wondering if our audience agrees onthat point. Yeah, because because the
other thing I wrote it down,but it's not a big deal like way
earlier when they're in the chase orno, I don't think it's in the

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chase, it's where Yeah, itis in the chase where like she's about
to be attacked by a rain ofstuffed animals. They cut heart of that,
like they cut I think they cutthe initial frame of her being hit
in the head by a stuffed animal. It just kind of bunks off her
head and she's just surprised at oh, right, it's a stuffed animal.
It doesn't hurt. They caught thatpart too, so it's like that was

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just genuine comedy that should have beenleft Like that's just like slapstick that should
have been left in, but theycut it. Like the rest of it's
in there, the rest of thestuffed animals following around her, that part's
in, but they cut out thecomedy moment of the first thing hitting her
on the head. Why well,and it again that choice, that micro

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cut actually did make a big differencebecause with the buoying and with that cut,
that is two indicators to the audiencewhat type of tone they want you
getting from this scene, And whenthose two things removed, it doesn't read
at all how it was supposed to. Yeah. So yeah, this is
definitely the first episode I think wecan both agree was actually harmed by the

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edits that they made. Yeah,and it's fun. I think it's fun
that some episodes were because if itwas a perfect thing, this would be
boring. Yeah, I mean Alliesdefinitely had to be rewritten entirely because of
what they cut. That's the episodethree with Watery where they had to cut
out all the Julian parts about thedate. Yeah, they had to do

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that. They wrote around it,and the episode as presented still basically worked
without it, whereas this one.The things that they left in but changed
hurt the episode. So it hurtthe tone. Sound off in the comments
and let us know what you wouldrate this episode. Reminder, both of
us ended up giving it a threeout of five stars. And I had

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mentioned before it's like a song thatkind of has a really great build up
and then the drop is horrible.The best example I thought of is a
song called Naughty by Gwen Stefani.Ignore the lyrics when you're listening to it
because it doesn't matter. However,musically, this is exactly what this episode
is. There's this incredible build upand then right when you get to the

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drop, it's just like her makingwill go with vocals sounds over like like
weird bad drum beats, and upto that point, musically the song is
like Impeca done. So whoever wrotethat song, I don't know what happened,
but they have the same issue aswhoever paced this episode because it or

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I guess whoever made the card captor'scuts for this episode, because it's the
same same exact feeling. Do youwant to add anything else about this No?
I think that's it. I thinkwe've said what we can about this
one, Like it's not like theworst episode ever, but it's definitely it's
definitely not one of the better.Yeah. I think it's good that we
It's like one that I wouldn't sayto skip it. You know, if

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I was gonna, like if someonewas like, hey, what episodes do
I do I need to? Like, can I not bother with? I
would still have them probably watch it. I think for certain one reasons.
It's one of those ones like hey, I need to watch Carcacter's Soccer,
but I can only watch thirty episodesof it? Yeah yeah, well yeah,
let me show you the cardcapter's duband this one wasn't in it.

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What's our next one? Uh?The next one is? Uh? I
believe that's episode Yeah, okay,so that's episode six, so that would
be the I don't remember what theEnglish title of it is, but it's
it's the Oh, it's the it'sthe Memories of her Mother episode. Okay,
I don't recall that one at all, so we'll see how it is.
It's the next one where Soccer almostdies. Oh good, Well that

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sounds a little bit better than not. That sounds funny. It sounds like
a more interesting story than what wewere presented with this week. I'm not
excited for her to almost die.I did not want to sound that.
It's the it's the first of severaltimes where someone falls off a cliff.
Oh I'm not I'm not going tolove that. Well, oh well,

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Welcome to Chris's Corner. Next episodewas the Jump Card with the setting of

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twin Balls the Stuffed Animal store.That's what it was called a Nelvana.
What do you feel about this one? It's yeah, it's a it's a
little bit better than for It wassort of boring to me in the first
half, but then once the carshowed itself and what became of that was
way more entertaining. I think it'sinteresting that you have that perspective because we

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just I just recorded that one withMatt like a day or two ago,
and we have an opposite reaction,and we actually kind of blamed Nelvana for
it because they made specific choices thatchanged the tone of it so much that
it didn't hit very good, youknow. Oh yeah, and the thing,

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go ahead and tell me a littlemore of what you feel on it,
and then we'll get more into it. Well, it's kind of fun
in the Japanese that with the Idon't know if it's the same music that
would have been left in, butyeah, yeah, I didn't think so
at all. But the moving stuffedanimals like moving by themselves, and then

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the girls' reactions to that and themusic, I'll you know, they're making
it out to be this paranormal horrorthing in a small degree, which is
fun. And like I said,when once things got going with a jump
card and it showed what it wasthat was really that was a lot more

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entertaining. I just thought it was. I don't know, I like it's
so it's just in the world ofthe series that things can be so outrageous
and destroy property and whatever and justnobody cares, and that it was fun
when when the card absorbed all thestuffed animals and then ended up just defeating

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itself because it made itself too big, Okay, And I liked the scene
art like from an art admiration perspective, of the background scenery of course,
when Sakra is launched way up inthe air holding onto the jump card.
Besides that, like the jump carditself was a little it didn't look like
it fit in with the other cardsthat have been shown so far, Like

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it sort of looked like a crappyPokemon knockoff or something. Yeah, I
was going to ask you to tryand describe it using references, because we'll
probably have I did that already,but we have different reference points. Oh
yeah, I don't know. It'ssort of body and shape wise. It
reminded me of I don't remember thepokemon's name without looking it up, but

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it's the one that transforms into butterFree Venanatt. I think, No,
it's Venoonatt. You're thinking of ninto Venomon. Okay, Yeah, it
does look a lot like a Venonat. Yeah, I said it looks like
a Furby, like deranged Ferbi mixedwith Macona from Magic Nightmay Earth. If

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you know that one. Oh yeah, that that's that's actually way more accurate
of a description. Yeah, Iwasn't sure if you knew the Ferbie reference
or not. Yeah, I hadone. They were fun and also a
little weird. Because the thing whatI just remember, the only thing I
remember about it is like they wouldwant to be fed and then you had
to like push the tongue down.It was like a button to feed up.

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And that's all you could really dobesides talk at it and eventually would
like repeat things. It was weirdme and man's me and more they do

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specifically that. What else do youwant to say about this one? Uh?
The outfit was not a costume thistime again, right. It was
just this dress, which I thoughtwas a nice dress until I realized it
was the capture look and then Iwas like, oh, does that make
sense? I was like, Iliked it as a dress. Yeah,
I kind of wanted a full costume. I'm surprised we got two in a

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row where the costume thing wasn't onpoint, because it's sort of what the
show is known for. Yeah.Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
I mean, it was better thanfour for sure, but it wasn't.
No, it wasn't another amazing episodeor anything like as far as as
far as early episodes in the seriesago. Yeah, the issues we had

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with the Nelvana edit was that theyyou know, the like springy sound it
makes when it turns big and likerollers or whatever. They tried to like
keep it really really aggressive and seriousall the way up until it just falls
over. And because of that,it's like this really epic build up to
absolutely nothing, which is not fun. Like our reason, what we figured

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out was that the comedic audio stingswere so important to tell you the tone
of it earlier in the episode,so you weren't expecting a big epic ending
and then that way you are readyto laugh, right, But the way
that the Nolvona tries to edit itcompletely messes up the tone of it.
Plus, like we were saying,the design of it is not great utility

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wise, it's a fun card,and I like the way that it turns
into the feathers on her boots whenshe uses it. I think that's cute.
So yeah, this is a funone. What would you rate the
jump card roughly somewhere in your deck? Maybe lower only because it doesn't have
that grade of a design in comparisonto nine of the other cards that you

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see in the series. I wouldsay probably at least top thirty for me,
only because of how like good ofa utility card it is and the
fact that. I think the designitself hardly matters, because it seems to
like manifest how it would be bestfor your personality, right, so if
you used it, it would lookdifferent for you than it would for me.

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And I kind of enjoy that aspectof it, but I don't think
it's strong enough to put it anywhereabove that. What about the whole episode,
I'd probably give it, uh,probably the probably the same rating as
the other one. I don't thinkI quite like it enough to go up
to a four, but yeah,just a three and a half. I

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think I gave it a three anda half as well. I can't exactly
remember, but I think also Mattoriginally gave it like a two and then
uped it to a three and ahalf after I gave some reasons why I
still sort of liked it, becausethere were very strong points in it,
you know what I mean, Likewhen she gets pulled up by the job
card like you were saying, andthen also when she throws the card in
the mid I love anytime she doesthat. So there were some really great

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moments en it, and I lovethe use of the wood card. I
thought that was really interesting, andthe whole Canopy Trap was cool, but
yeah, it was just the editingkind of knocked it down a few points.
Yep. All right, so that'sit for these two. Let's talk
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