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March 20, 2025 17 mins
 Hello Community!  In case you hadn’t noticed, DEI is at a crossroads.   But here’s the hard truth: If we want to move forward, we have to get real about total diversity. That means making room at the table for everyone, including those who have been skeptical or outright opposed to past diversity approaches. If we say we want inclusion, that has to include people we may not agree with. Otherwise, what are we really building?
 
Join me for another Real Conversation from the C-Suite with my guests, Todd Levinson and Andre Thomas, co-hosts of The Healing Race Podcast, as they help us unpack what gets in the way when we talk about race in real ways that increase understanding.
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