February 3, 2025 • 51 mins
This week we are continuing our conversation with media powerhouse, Kemba Jo!
In this episode we are talkng di tings about the vibrant world of Carnival and what it represents—joy, freedom, and unapologetic self-expression. We explore how this incredible celebration of life mirrors the ways we should all approach our own journeys, embracing who we truly are without fear or restraint. We also discuss incredible Caribbean women who are revolutionizing the beauty industry, from Rihanna’s beauty industry-altering "Fenty Beauty" to Ayesha Curry’s "Sweet July Skin". These women are not just changing beauty standards—they’re creating a cultural shift that celebrates authenticity, diversity, and inclusion.
So grab your tea, coffee, or a glass of wine, and let's talk di tings!
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In this episode we are talkng di tings about the vibrant world of Carnival and what it represents—joy, freedom, and unapologetic self-expression. We explore how this incredible celebration of life mirrors the ways we should all approach our own journeys, embracing who we truly are without fear or restraint. We also discuss incredible Caribbean women who are revolutionizing the beauty industry, from Rihanna’s beauty industry-altering "Fenty Beauty" to Ayesha Curry’s "Sweet July Skin". These women are not just changing beauty standards—they’re creating a cultural shift that celebrates authenticity, diversity, and inclusion.
So grab your tea, coffee, or a glass of wine, and let's talk di tings!
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If you enjoyed the episode, leave us a 5 star rating, share this episode, and follow Let’s Talk Di Tings on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Listen to LTDT on:
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I fit in the night. Then go out under road
winnos stop, I'm going all day. I've fit in the night.
Then jump up under road windows stoping, I'm going all day.
(00:20):
Know everybody watch me? Yeah, eyes aback Connalis, eyes up back, Canalis.
I want you to watch me. Yeah, e is aback, Connalist,
e is up back, Canalist.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I love plenty. Whether you know it as Baccanal or Carnival,
celebrate in Trinidad, Grenada, Jamaica, Miami or Toronto. If you've
experienced Carnival, you know that it is a beautiful, unfiltered
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celebration of life that's all about the freedom of letting
go and embracing who you are. In addition to Carnival,
we are also going to be shining a spotlight on
the incredible impact Caribbean women are having in the beauty industry.
From Rihanna, who's revolutionized the makeup world with Fenty Beauty,
(01:25):
to Aisha Curry, who's bringing wellness, confidence and beauty to
the forefront, these women are making waves in ways that
are changing the game. This episode is sure to make
you laugh as usual and inspire you to lean in
to your unapologetic selves. If you're listening to the podcast
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comment below. Also, don't forget to follow us on Instagram
at Let's Talk the Things. Now, grab your tea, coffee,
or a glass of wine and let's talk the Things. Hi, everyone,
(02:10):
Welcome back to the Let's Talk to Things podcast, where
we discuss personal growth, travel, music and wellness while encouraging
you to live fearlessly and fabulously.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I am your.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Host, Ash and this week we are continuing last week's
conversation that you loved so much with the Media Powerhouse
and Bacanal Queen Kemba Joe. Okay, so let's switch gears
a bit and talk about beauty and how Caribbean women
(02:46):
are making significant strides in the beauty community. So I
love the fact that as Caribbean women we age like
wine and not milk. Let's just stay on men, you know,
it's it's something that God has blessed us with and
we are very appreciative and humble to have been bestowed
(03:06):
upon this youthful glow.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But there's companies like, for example, fenty Beauty of course
launched in Barbados last year.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Trinidad Yes and they're launching in Jamaica this year, which
is so exciting because I wanted, as you bring it up,
them launching in Trinidad as well, what do you think
about that and what do you think Rihanna's success in
the industry means to Caribbean women.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think that she did one of the smartest things
ever ever making sure that Caribbean women have access to
her products at home. And who knows what it took
to have to get everything in motion to have Fandy available,
you know, at first at home in Barbados and then
(03:56):
Trinidad and then now soon to come in Jamaica. I
think in the gap on accessibility and availability for us
was a power move, but really no about making them
power moves right. And I also think that when it
comes to what it means for beauty for Caribbean women,
I think it's inspiring to the folks that have their
(04:19):
own dreams and those lines to just keep at it.
So heir. In Triniad there are a couple of local
products that I absolutely love, and I say beauty, but
it's going to encompass all things that me and beauty.
Beauty I'm going to call a couple of brands because
the quality of their product is so amazing that yes
it's local, but because it's local, it's even more prior
(04:43):
to own them. And I'm on this journey of just
like gathering local brands like Infinity Stones, regardless of the costs,
as long as it's not going to break my pocket,
because I think it's important to lend support, especially when
their women owned. So Immortel Beauty she is the first
person whose line I completely fell in love with. She
(05:07):
does body creams, body shower gels, body oils, different things
like that. I mean, and I'd love to sit with
her one day and find out, you know, what her
inspiration was, knowing and understanding that Rihanna would have, you know,
also been working on her own beauty line, perhaps before
(05:27):
at the same time of and Immortel has grown. The
website is amazing. You get your deals, you have your
body butter and their shade button everything. So it caters
to dare I say, the skin of a Caribbean woman, right, Yes,
other people are gonna want to love it and it
may work for them too. But you know, there's something
very special about the things that we call our own
(05:50):
Razakh skin body cream, right, you know, I know you
know about razak that you must. There's a distinct smell
that comes with it that you know is Caribbean. I
wouldn't even say Jamaican, I will say Caribbean and Serbian. Yeah. Sure.
Immotel Beauty does that. And she has a huge line
different types of sense. It's not just one. You can
(06:13):
do so many different things. And she has vidillavists and
dragon fruits, citrus that and another one and another one,
and so Immotel Beauty, I think the real is inspiring
more people to keep shining their light in that way.
There's another product that I really love. It's aviary a
v I A R E with an accent at the end,
and she has oils, so it's vitamin E coconut oil
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and then like a scent of something else. I love
all things to trus and flower like flowers, and so
that's that sounds like something I would love to try. Girls.
It's wonderful stuff, all local, one hundred Percentidadian, and of
course run by women. Right, so I think you know
we can talk about I'll exchange all of these pages
with you. You could check it out yourself and see
(06:57):
what that Caribbean love is like and it's when I
say distinctly that I feel like, although Rihanna has you know,
launched fancy beauty with a general beauty line, it's not
so much you know, the name of it is not
too Caribbean. The names of her products aren't you know,
with specific Caribbean women in mind. And it's not a
(07:21):
bad thing. It's just she has a global market, right,
But I think that her impact on the region is
just the inspiration for people to show up and show
out with this thing, whatever that thing is. And as
you know, you were talking beauty products, those are the
things that you know came up to me.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, no, definitely, I couldn't agree with you more. And
the thing with Rihanna with FENTI that I love is
that although she obviously has to and that's like one
of her big things, cater to like all skin shades
and you know, just make it more inclusive. But I
love is that her products like she has I think
it's like Barbadian cherry or like different things where she
(08:02):
highlights highlights Barbados Because as we all know, Rihanna has
always been unapologetic about her Caribbean roots. Ever changed her
accent never changed. You know, she's just one hundred child,
remind you quickly that she is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Beijan, but her when she drugs quick or not, and
I feel almost like, oh my gosh, how can I
not think of her own loyalty and not loyalty but
dedication to her roots in the work and the things
that she does. Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And in alignment with that, it also makes me think
of Ayisha Curry. She has a line called Sweet July,
and she's Jamaican, so again, her line highlights like papaya
and different like different assortments of Jamaican esque and I
mean these are Caribbean things, but you know, things that
(08:54):
make her feel or remind her of her culture. And
I think that for her it's also different because she
might not have the limelight that Rihanna has, but she
is focused on you know, wellness and beauty, but also
like self care, which I think is really important. And
(09:15):
I love the way that she's tapping into the wellness
space because I think it's so needed, you know what
I mean, like especially just taking care of your skin.
And I just feel like the brand is really about
not only looking good, but feeling good and living well.
And I think that's a lot of times when we
see like advertisements for certain beauty products, it's about what
(09:38):
you're putting on your body. But if you're putting all
these creams and things on your body, but you're our
own people that don't like you, like we talked about earlier,
or you're being a ride or die, or you're not
drinking enough water or your out like no fenty beauty
or Sweet July or Deal or whatever you use is
(09:58):
going to mask it's you know what I mean? So
I do love how like, for example, just the slight
difference with Sweet July, let's say, is that they talk
about just like a holistic wellness, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Mean, is not just about like beauty products.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I love that these are just two Caribbean women
that are kind of bigging up their culture, yeah, but
doing it in their own way.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, you taught me something. I didn't know that Missus Curry,
missus Steph Curkry was of Jamaican discern I genuinely did
not know. And then two I also did not know
that she has come out with oh gosh, does look
the anti behavior is coming out antinous? And what is
(10:44):
the Rock one two three Rock Way is where my
address is under the Rock Way. So now I've made
a note. Yes, I'm gonna go check it out because
I also think it's so important for women, especially Caribbean women,
to have their own identity. Yes, she may have started
as Steph Curry's wife or I know her, let me
(11:06):
not be like that. Just because we don't know, not
sense doesn't mean that she didn't have oh a lot
going for her before.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh my gosh, she has so many other things. I
was talking about this, soa me knowing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Of her as Steph Curry's wife, it is only a
part of who she is. And I think that that
is something that I'll say, Black women and especially Caribbean women,
have been always unapologetic about. You're gonna know that I
am my hoole person man or Norman. You are going
(11:40):
to know the audacity to live and have my own
identity is something that I think Caribbean women, especially or
Black women of Caribbean descent, we make our own lane
or we stay in that lane regardless of what it
looks and sounds like to anybody else, and that is very.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Special, definitely, definitely, And I mean that's part of the
reason when I'm talking about, even just in normal conversations,
anything to do with her, the millions of things that
she's doing. I really mentioned like Steph Curry's wife, because
I feel like that's just something that people say so
regularly that really has nothing to do with like who
(12:19):
she is as a person, and like we were talking
about earlier, like with our moms for example, like having
their own identity. And I think that for her, she
could have decided that she just wanted to be a wife,
you know, and a mother and not really go any.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Further from there.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But she's made her life so that she can do
all of that, and I'm sure that's not an easy
thing to do, especially she just had a brand new baby,
so you know, it's like she's such a good example
of the type of women that we've seen in our
life and what we were talking about with Caribbean woman
just kind of making a way, but making sure you
don't lose yourself and you know, still doing things that.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You love, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think so, like I said, I love the fact
that her line combines wellness and beauty, but she still
has that Caribbean touch, you know. I think It's a
great example of how culture can influence success in really
unexpected ways.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think so, I think so too, And it then
just makes you known for that thing. It's distinct to you,
so like it doesn't even have to be beauty and wellness.
No one else that I know has a space or
uses the phrase the one thing that we know. And
it happened at the beginning of this podcast episode, right
(13:34):
that no song safe. Now, that might be a saying
that is, you know, tried and true in these spaces
that you're in, but your identity a big piece of
your dedication to your roots. Right, you could have called
it anything else. You could have had that phrase be
anything else, but you chose for it to be that
the song safe.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
As you mentioned, this is not something like that I
planned out. It's just something I decided to do. So
Initially I just thought, Okay, I'll just talk to people
of Caribbean descent.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But then I opened it up because that's not the
world I live in.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I have friends and family from all different backgrounds and
all different cultures. However, what I promised myself is I'm
always going to bring it back to or acknowledge my
Caribbean roots, or my Jamaican roots, or you know, being
a Caribbean woman in some way.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yes, for sure. And it's so funny. It's not funny her,
it's just ironic. And I love the way that we're
all connected because even before I fully grasped what this
segment was about, I just knew what it meant. I
didn't know what it meant, but I knew that in
the sound same it just I knew what it. Don't
ask me to translate it, I can't. I'll have to
(14:45):
think about, well it really means that this hold on,
wait what? And I feel like like we just know
what it means. We just know, and I feel like again,
so coming back into you know really and fenty Aisha
Curry and Sweet July, I'll bring it home to me,
(15:07):
you know, ay A Styler especially, you just see it
and you just know that there is this Caribbean influence.
And I think that's the beauty of what we get
to do and the people that we get to see.
And I'm inspired by them all being courageous enough and
audacious and bold face enough to really just put themselves
(15:30):
out there. Yes, yeah, one day I won't be so
scared such a chicken but scaredy cat. But but it
it really is special. It really really is special. So
lots lots that we have within our culture to to
appreciate and and and to look forward to. I think
(15:52):
as we continue blazing betrayal of our Caribbean's for sure
ha ha.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So you know we can't leave here without talking about
Carnival well as the season as this season girl, So
I love Carnival and you know, for me, carnival represents freedom,
like in its purest form right And to me, Carnival
is just I don't know, It's where you can just
(16:22):
fully let go of everything, work, stress, weight and aspectations,
you know, and just celebrate life. And I really think
it's an expression of joy, culture, pride, all of those
great things, and every Carnival, no matter where it's celebrated,
I just feel it's a reminder of just being grateful,
(16:46):
the importance of joy and how we should live fearlessly,
you know, if you will, because we've been talking about
that this whole time.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And as you would know, I have.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Never been to Trinidad Carnival, although it is high on
my list.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Before money, you get out of fucking and I can't,
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Have what's the song the greatest ben No, hey, listen,
young brother is doing I don't know what to the
air waves with that song and the best way possible.
I love that song.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
To But let's first of all, let's let's let's just
take a pause. Let me just pause, pause this for
a second so we can discuss this song. First of all,
I love Destiny's Child and Beyonce, and I don't mean
in like the beehive crazed way. I'm like I had
their first album. I like, genuinely enjoy their music and
(17:51):
things like that.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Let me preface that first.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, you see what the man said, let me get
it to you. Oh my gosh. First of all, nostalgia,
right right, Okay, I just really appreciated that. You know,
he talks about all the work that we have to
put in in the dance as women to deliver the
(18:15):
greatest bendovers. And I feel like, you know, the acknowledgment
is just it's it's it should be appreciated because it's
a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes, it's a lot of work. Well oil, how to
make sure you waste do the proper rotation, all of.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
These things and listen, you can't give the greatest bendover
to just anybody fucking fast. That's that's a lesson in
there that I feel like people aren't catching.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
No, it's the Philosophical Review for me, and I love it.
I did not think of it that way because I
am just.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's the Harvard Business Review.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I appreciate you did, and you know what, I really
love hbr's stuff. So ten points, I just the analysis. Ye,
so young brother, he's okay, I need to see this
real quick. When he first started, we didn't know that
he could sing the way that he sun. So that
song for us, as Trainey's knowing where he what are
(19:15):
you doing and blowing up in the pandemic with a
different style, this is this is crazy good for us.
Like he is, just I can't wait to see when
where he's going to go next and what else he's
going to do. So that's that. But bring it back
to me, press play. Let's talk about Carnival and you've
not yet been Yes, the plan, yes, oh my gosh,
(19:38):
and the freedom, the joy and the culture that it represents.
Where were you going? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So can you tell us a little bit about Trinidad carnival,
and in your opinion how it because you know, like
you said, we don't want to start Caribbean island wars,
but in your opinion how it compares to other carnivals,
to include Miami Carnival too, because that's a pretty big one.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
They're gonna come for me. Okay, So I am going
to mind the time because we could this could be
our whole episode by itself.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Okay, okay, yes, give the summary and then maybe we'll
do another episode.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
So for me, carnival is all that you shared, freedom,
joy culture. Carnival, for me and for many people who
love our culture, is deeply spiritual. It is an expression
of who we are as a people that cannot be
replicated anywhere else. Let me pause, because they're gonna come
(20:41):
for me. Because while I appreciate the carnivals that exist
everywhere else. So we have Cropple well, I won't say carnival,
but certain celebrations are people put on costumes, right, because
cropov is a little bit different. Bahamas Carnival, there's Jamaica's Carnival.
You have of notting Hill, you have New York and
(21:02):
Labor Day, you have Miami Carnival. I found out there's
something in Houston and Texas. I think something there right,
So all of these communities appreciating that which is something
on the road and affects somewhere. Those things matter, and
I love that there's a representation there's Japan Carnival. I
(21:23):
love it. But I think what makes what makes Carnival
the thing for me at home that you can't get
anywhere else is because of how deeply rooted to who
we are as a people that it is. And so
for anyone coming to Carnival or thinking of coming to
(21:45):
Trinidad for Carnival for the first time, toss out of
your mind that is just jump on wine and ragan,
misbehave and all of these things. It is really and
truly the two weeks leading up to Carnival and maybe
even in a month, depending on how many different things
you want to do, because there's so many cultural aspects
(22:05):
of it. Our panorama which Saint Lucia Carnival is also
in there with their own panorama as well. There is
Carnival in a Aruba around the same time too, and
they all have similar things. I feel like in some
of our regions, some of our locations in the region,
we share Callipso competitions in common. We share Panorama competitions
(22:30):
in common. And that's the real for me, it's the
authentic thing. Just yesterday I was chatting with someone about
Carnival plants and this is my time of the year.
Christmas could come on go, and I know you love
your Christmas. For me, it's Carnival that time of year
that I can't miss it. I can't miss it. Doesn't
(22:51):
help that I was born right, don't you, in morning,
many many years ago. I can't help it. And it
took me long to get to this level of articulation
because I just knew that Carnival was everything. And the
first year that I could not participate because of work
and my commitments and literally not being able to be
(23:12):
on your road, I felt an ache and a pain
that that was callossed over time. And when the pandemic
hits twenty twenty was our last time on the road,
I made the stupidest decision to not play Masks. I said,
next year, I'll play. It's okay. Now I'll be an
(23:33):
adult and i'll function an adult. I'll do things. And
it had no Carnival for two years. Yeah, and the
sadness that I felt. I was like, never again can I?
And Marshall has a song I will never miss our
next kind of all get there's just something in the
(23:56):
experience hair that you can't you read, can't get anywhere else.
And I just think it's because of the soil that
it is on. And people laugh at me and I say,
just about the two weeks before Carnival or three weeks
before Carnival, I call it the Carnival Spirit. I feel
like she comes down and she sushes across the Queen's
(24:20):
Park Savanna, which is where a lot of the main
parades and competitions and things take place, and she's the
image of Carnival. Do you know what Mocho Jumbi is, right?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Okay, So the Mocho Jumbie is one of our Carnival
characters and it's a character that is tall on stilts,
super tall. Yeah, so it's like a Stills walker. But
Mocho Jumbi is actually call them And for me, I
always describe the Carnival Spirit as she's a woman of course,
because she is Carnival and she is like a Mocho Jumbi,
(24:53):
tall but graceful, and her gown is this white thing
goosebumps that just flows behind her, and she just quietly
glides herself across the Queen's Parksavannah, and ever so often
I just a breeze would blow and I'm like, oh, Carnival,
let's here. It's thet thing. Ever, I don't know how
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many other people relate. And then you go to the events.
You know, anyone coming, I would invite you to step
outside effects a little bit and go to the events.
Go to the panorama, go to the paniards, go to
the Collopster competitions, come out for the marsh gra There's
so much more than just the two days on the
street that we love. Don't get me wrong. I love
(25:37):
that we go right down till we lied on son
up seven am. I am there with the band. I
am leaving Port of Spain at ten o'clock an the
night because there's not ever enough time for me to
enjoy it. But it's just such a big piece of
the intangible, the thing that cannot be explained, the essence
(25:59):
of what it really means to enjoy freedom. And the
real joy is in being there. The kids. You see
the children out there, Kidi's Carnival junior Panorama where it's
all children like they just the culture is well alive.
And I think that that is one of the things
a lot of folks don't realize also exists. And as
(26:22):
much as I know, Miami Carnival has Panorama and different
places have it too. It's the continuation of what started
in Trinidad as the genesis of it all. So, I mean,
I don't know what else you need apart from the
fights and the accommodations. You know that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, that was a good history lesson for those of
us that have never been.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, it might still have time, you know, kind of
all is they said on fourth of March. We are
still you know, early enough.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And yeah, no, it's definitely on my list, definitely. I've
heard nothing but great things about it. So yeah, it's
definitely high on my list.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And we can't leave out the role that music plays
in Carnival, right, So, whether it's Michelle or Nyla or
Patrice or Young Brothers, we're talking about. You know, what
do you think so far, in your opinion, has been
(27:30):
the best year of Soca music. And before you answer,
I'll tell you my answer first. For me, it's hands
down twenty fifteen Q's DJ Private Ryan only the best
SOCA in the mix.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Legendary, versatile DJ world.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Type, so pleas because that is how else do you hello?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Hello? Hello, Hello, Hello?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
When I heare that, that's something to my entire soul,
like I can't you know? And oh last thing, I
think it's so interesting because twenty fifteen is it for me?
But so far, I know we just got here, we've
just arrived to twenty twenty five. But honestly, I think
twenty twenty five SOCA so far is giving a close second,
(28:21):
going to.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Give you an honorary Carnival training pass. Ok, So yeah,
I love that. I wish I wish you could have
seen my face when when you first asked the question,
howly hell am I supposed to choose one? Are you what?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
My face went from shock and awe to confusion because
we're gonna buy past years that big truck and footsteps
and then trembleets and then it's carnival and then come on,
how are we going to do that? But then you
redeemed yourself when you talk about twenty fifteen, and then
(29:01):
you redeemed yourself again that's what the triny pass because
this year I'm not gonna lie twenty twenty five. We've
been waiting. It's been too long. That's a Nylas song too.
We've been waiting post pandemic, or at least coming out
of the whole lockdown and not having Carnival. The very
first Carnival that we had, I don't feel was it.
(29:25):
They talked about it being the mac of Carnival and
the mother of all carnivals. I should say that, let
me correct myself, the mother of all carnivals, and it
was underwhelming. It was I was underwhelmed. I mean, still
had some nice hits. But this year, twenty twenty five,
I feel like people had time to shake off the
dregs and get back into the creativity. Hit after hit
(29:47):
after hit after artists, and it has a feel more
than just the hits. There's a feel of the twenty
fifteen that Private Ryan has solidified himself new Hall of
Fame with and I'm not sure why as yet, but
there's something about the sweetness of the music for this year.
(30:10):
Last year was a nice one too, but nowhere near
what we have. From what it looks like we're gonna
have for twenty twenty five, and then definitely twenty twenty seven.
I think if I have twenty I mean twenty fifteen,
I think if I have to go back in time
the next year, Oh gosh, I can't remember the year exactly,
(30:31):
but it would have been when Marshall and Ecstatic were
at their prime. They gave us these songs like big Truck, Footsteps,
Toro Toro with Shaggy and being a Man. Yeah, that
those years. I feel like it's somewhere nine somewhere between
ninety seven and two thousand that that window or maybe
(30:54):
extended to like two thousand and two. I don't know.
Maybe it's because it was just around the time that
I was also old enough to appreciate carnival parades and
then want to play like as a big woman and
going on your road for carnival and thing.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But meanwhile I was not old enough yet takes really
acceptable anywhere about myself.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So you know, you have in school, we have our
carnival jump up in school, and I remember the years
that those songs came out. Now, to be fair, late nineties,
I was still in primary school right, but being able
to enjoy like one of my first memories jumping up
in the school, jump up, charge to a road, to
a road, charge to a road, to the coming from me,
(31:39):
Spanish main road. Well you're your your like there's there's
something in that era of songs. And then I'll say
into like two thousands, early two thousands to mid two
thousands was when I would have been old enough to
again pretend like I was a bigger one, big up
my parents. You know, because I was on the road,
I would cut with rules and making sure that you
(32:02):
had strategic points because you know, I may not have
been old enough and definitely was not able to put
my body in a two piece would be done better.
But being able to be on the road as a spectator,
there's always someone that you know. I have an older cousin.
He comes every year. He plays a carnival and all
that kind of plays mass participates in carnival and he
(32:23):
you know, we know he's in this band. So we're
looking off for this person. I have an aunt relentlessly.
She is the most organized, well put together professional woman.
But she would play cards, she would play masks. She's
in carnival every year. My cousin used to come down
to our house. They lived a ways away, and so
(32:44):
I just knew when I was younger that I'm getting
to spend Carnival with my cousin who was like my sister,
and we are in Kiddy's Carnival, and then her mom
is on the road for Monday and Tuesday. So when
I was old enough to figure out how everything sort
of played a role and came together, I was like, WHOA, Okay,
this this is what this is. And I think the sentimentality,
(33:08):
sentiment Yeah, the sentimentality, I feel like that's not a word,
but I'm gonna make it sentimental feeling. Let's just keep
it safe. Sentimental feeling with those songs made it some
of the best years for me. Plenty woods to say,
the experience of whatever Carnival was, from primary school or
(33:29):
secondary school or you know, a put on my first
reil short pump pump shots and my sneakers with my
bandan in my back pocket to walk on the road
in the teens, those things stand out to me. And
who knows, maybe the music was trash, I don't know,
but it was so much part of the lived experience
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that it just made it the best.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I love that and to just highlight what you were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
As far as what it is with the music so far,
I don't know, but I get the same feeling you get,
like it's just the feeling of the music is very
reminiscent of twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And it is.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He said, it's just so sweet. It coming like contents Malek,
very sweet.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Oh gosh, I'm gonna cry. It's gonna be so good.
I am very very excited to just be able to
be in this space, you know again. And yes, I
love being on the road. But songs like you know,
(34:40):
I mean another artist up and coming, not female, but
Michale Tajer write songwriter for so many years. He's just
the sweetest, humblest you know, lover of his craft and
practitioner of his craft, profector of his craft. And you
know we're in this season. And another reason to come
(35:01):
is on a random Wednesday afternoon, you you finish, imagine
this or I picture this close eyes, long hart day
at work, right, long heart day at work, report over
trying to get ahead of another report. Some of the
deadline co worker employee bought somebody just you know, adding
(35:23):
to the stress of the day. And it is peak
time of the afternoon, so four thirty five o'clock, and
yet somewhere in the distance, you're hearing the sweet sound
of pan because somebody is practicing somewhere, because panorama is
coming up. Whether it's a single pan, whether it's a
(35:46):
whole band, whoever, it is like, and I've had that
walking down the road, put off the work or whatever,
trying to just you know, end by day, and you
slow down because you've heard pan, And then all of
a sudden, did they not so bad anymore? Like it
wasn't so bad they you know, don't matter a cry
(36:08):
or what every case was. You know, it's high stress
high I mean, and again corporate. It's just that in
a lot of ways, you just walked on the road
and it has pan. You just walked on the road
and you know traffic you're sitting on in a line
of traffic trying to head home. But then you pause
because wait where I'm coming from? Pan? Oh my goodness,
(36:30):
it is. It is something that I feel. Now that
I'm telling you about it, I realize, Oh my god,
I'm really lucky. I'm really lucky in this life to
experience what I get to experience every year. This is
this is normal. This is every It's not sometime your
every day in life. This is every carnival, every John
(36:50):
or feb you know, December. Sometimes the carnival is really early.
This is life, this is my every day. I'm really
we are triny people. We are really blessed that we
get to experience it. And for some people carval is
not their thing for a lot of different reasons, and
that's okay too. But the spirituality of it, literally, like
(37:13):
my shoulders just will move from by under my ears,
just relax all the way, you know what I mean.
That's that's what it means to have Carnival and all
of that to say Tasha. So anyway, Mikaele Tasha who
when to Ronnie Bushes to come back his contribution to
twenty twenty five and the sweetness of it. I always say,
(37:34):
if you could play the song on our pan, that's
where it was going. If you could play the song
on pan, then you know it's sweet, bad bad bad
bade and Tasuas or one of his songs with this
sir energy. There's a there's a junior pan rama band
that is at least one of them is playing it.
I think other people are playing it too, and you
(37:56):
hear it and it's amazing. Coco tea, beautiful, beautiful Cocoa
Tea is another one that a couple of man's are
doing as well, and it's just it's really special and
it's really magical, and I how to not love being
a true boy that we really keep it. It's amazing.
(38:19):
I love it's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. So that is
that is home. That is home for me.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Thank you, Thank you Ash for asking such a question
that has taken me and us all on this crazy
journey of now.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I feel like I need to go on and find
pan to listen to as soon as we wrap up
a bit, because right, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
That's a perfect end to that segment. For our final segment. Yes,
I'm going to ask you hmm, let's see my questions?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Should I ask you?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I am going to ask you eight rapid fire questions.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Okay, let me bread somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
You have to answer with the first thing that comes
to your minds. Oh no, there's no wrong answer. It's okay,
first thing, I have an.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Important question, okay, PG unjurated, right.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Of course, Hell, you know it's nothing fast PGNNG on
this show.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Okay, all right, yes, have to make sure that my
mind is doing.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yes, okay, yes, nothing salicious or inappropriate, and I will Yes,
I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
You've made it this far without any of that. It's
true me.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I trust myself all right, ready, yes, all right? First question,
what is the most important lesson you've learned from your
mother or a grandmother that you still reference.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
As an adult? Be your full self, love and say
away out of sea. I love that doubles are bacon shark,
Jesus Christ, doubles, doubles double double drunk chicken or ox stale.
(40:19):
Mm hmmm. I thought that because you mentioned it earlier
when when I talked again, What are you most proud
of my authenticity? Oh? I love that?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Okay, I already know you're gonna bad me up for least.
What I'm gonna ask anyway, And I said, the first
thing that comes to your minds Okay, don't start with
that up, just answer. I'll try favorite Soca song I know,
just answered savanahrass Okay, okay, okay, fa the favorite thing
(41:01):
about being.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
From Trinidad Soka unconnival.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Oh love that if you could talk to your eighteen
year old self from the future, So from today, what
would you.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Say you are so worthy of everything that you will accomplish? Hmm,
that's so beautiful. Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, And the final question, what is one thing that
you would tell anyone who feels stuck, unsure, or afraid
to go after their dreams?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Do the work. Sit with yourself and do the work.
Find out why you're so scared. Make friends with that
fair and hold its hand as you take the step
towards that dream. I love that. I love that. That's
(41:59):
so beautifully said. Thank you your make up for that
terrible question about.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I'm like, I know she's got a bad news because
she already told me when I talked about the Private
Rye twenty fifteen, So I know she's going to be
looking like, is she really asking me to.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Pick like my favorite of all times? Like? What is
wrong with you? See? I was like my favorite, my
favorite today? My favorite? Like what what kind of ohs?
Is the first one?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That?
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Really? I was awful? But you made a friend you mad? Right?
Oh my gosh again. I wish you could see my face.
Trust me, I could feel it. I could see the
wrath coming through I could feel it you didn't see
(43:00):
how I froze, like everything froze, my brain, my thoughts,
my body. I just, oh my gosh. You were trying
to figure out like how did I even get here?
What kind of question? But I know I knew it
was coming. I knew you were going to make it
(43:22):
hot and then bacon shock with doubles. It depends what
time of day is it. Where am I? Oh gosh, hilarious.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
That concludes the episode that was so much fun it
was and see you made it. I did?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I did? I. This was absolutely wonderful, Ash. Thank you
for having me, thank you for this community that you
have built and continue building. And I am just in
awe of let's talk the things. So until we get
to talk to things again, this was an absolute pleasure.
(44:03):
Thank you again, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Oh, thank you so much. And before we go, I
forgot one thing. Sure, So I usually or I shouldn't
say usually, I would say since maybe the end towards
the end of last season, I allow guests to ask
me one question that they want to ask me since
typically like guests don't usually get to ask questions.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
So you have a question that you wanted to ask me.
You don't have to, but you can. Yes, I do.
Where do you think, let's talk the things could go
in the next three years.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I would love for it to be or continue to be,
I should say, a safe space for persons of Caribbean
descent to come and hear, you know, the stories of
whether it's celebrities or just normal people like you and
you know, or whether it's persons within the luxury hotel
(45:05):
industry or just the merit of guests that we've had,
and just be open to learning about other cultures or
hearing stories that they can resonate with. You know, I
find that being a person of Caribbean descent, when I'm
online or looking at people's videos or you know, just
dialogue that they have, those are the things that I
(45:27):
can most relate to when people that look like me,
are from the same background as me are having certain
types of conversations, because then it feels like it's attainable.
It's somewhere that you can go to feel like, oh,
you know me too, were oh wow, she tried this
or he tried this.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I never tried that.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
And I think today is a great example. You know,
you even explaining just the depth of Trinidad Carnival. I
think somebody listening that's really going to open their eyes
because it opened my eyes. You know, I know that
there was history there, yeah, you know obviously with my
dad being a musician and things like that, but I
didn't know to the level of history. Like you said, obviously,
(46:10):
there's so much more people can look up. But it
will likely make someone say, wow, you know, let me
look that person up or that thing that you know
was talked about that I never knew before, or amazing.
It might make a person say, wow, you know, I
never even knew about Trinidad Carnival. Now I want to
go to Trinidad. So I think it's important just to
have those conversations, and so I would hope that it
(46:33):
just continues to grow, continues to resonate with people. Perhaps
one day I'll bring it on camera, but like I've
had my offline and I'll stay it here. You know,
I like it audio only only because I just feel
like persons are more comfortable speaking and they're not concentrated
on their parents. Yes, but I've had so many people,
(46:56):
guests or otherwise, you know, ask me to bring it on,
which I'm really humbled about that or I shouldn't stay
online to bring it with video.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yes, yes, and the opportunity is endless creating this safe
space and then you know, Caribbean people, it's amazing the
way that we all are from the same place, but
we could look so different. The diversity just in how
we present, and I think the exactly having people see
that too is important. So my name might be and
(47:28):
we see it here in not only time. You know
your name might be of one it sounds like it's
of one ethnic background and then you show up and
it's like whoa hold on And that's the beauty of
us being Caribbean people. So anyway, absolutely, I'm so glad
that I that I got the answer to ask the question,
because you know, maybe maybe there's okay all right, my brain,
(47:51):
no brain started thinking.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
It's definitely something I want to do, like you know,
a live show, things where I can interact with the audience,
things like that. Yeah, but yeah, that's definitely on my radar. Well,
before we go, is there anything you'd like to share
with our listeners, like if you want them to follow
you or you know, just any you want to share.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Absolutely, So as of right now, I can be found
on Instagram, Camba Joe underscored talks and pretty soon through
the rest of twenty twenty five, the courage to continue
growing and stepping out and be even more present is
going to be there. So that's where you can connect
with me. And just big thanks to each person that
(48:37):
sat down and hoo does cacklin And you know, just
if there's one thing we know it's going to happen,
there's plenty laughter, but just just whatever you may be,
whether it is in the Caribbean outside of the Caribbean,
I hope that this is a little bit of home
in some way, maybe not triny home, but just knowing
(48:59):
that as Caribbean people, we all want people for shure.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
I love that. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Thank yoush, thank you so much again. And yeah, until that,
I say, I feel like, Eah, that was we talk
about things.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I feel like we've just experienced the spirit of Carnival
in full force. I mean talking about the joy, the
freedom and the unapologetic expression that it brings is just
so refreshing to me. You know, there's something so powerful
about how it connects us to our roots, to culture
(49:41):
and to a sense of liberation, isn't there. I mean,
it's not just about the costumes or the music, as
we said, or even given the greatest bendover. It's about
embracing who we truly are. If there's one thing that
I hope you took away from from this week's episode
(50:02):
and the episode prior, it's that freedom and joy don't
need to be earned. They're yours to claim, no matter
where you come from. Carnival shows us that in the
purest form, there is no shame in dancing, laughing, and
in just living your life to the fullest. We should
(50:24):
all be embracing that type of freedom every single day.
As for the beauty industry, the beauty industry is no
longer about what's on the outside really. I mean, granted,
we still want to look nice on the outside, but
it's more so about representation, empowerment, and creating space for everyone.
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Remember this, Your joy is a revolution, Your freedom is
your power, and that is something that no one can
take away from you.
I fit in the night. Then go out under road
winnos stop, I'm going all day. I've fit in the night.
Then jump up under road windows stoping, I'm going all day.
(00:20):
Know everybody watch me? Yeah, eyes aback Connalis, eyes up back, Canalis.
I want you to watch me. Yeah, e is aback, Connalist,
e is up back, Canalist.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I love plenty. Whether you know it as Baccanal or Carnival,
celebrate in Trinidad, Grenada, Jamaica, Miami or Toronto. If you've
experienced Carnival, you know that it is a beautiful, unfiltered
(01:03):
celebration of life that's all about the freedom of letting
go and embracing who you are. In addition to Carnival,
we are also going to be shining a spotlight on
the incredible impact Caribbean women are having in the beauty industry.
From Rihanna, who's revolutionized the makeup world with Fenty Beauty,
(01:25):
to Aisha Curry, who's bringing wellness, confidence and beauty to
the forefront, these women are making waves in ways that
are changing the game. This episode is sure to make
you laugh as usual and inspire you to lean in
to your unapologetic selves. If you're listening to the podcast
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at Let's Talk the Things. Now, grab your tea, coffee,
or a glass of wine and let's talk the Things. Hi, everyone,
(02:10):
Welcome back to the Let's Talk to Things podcast, where
we discuss personal growth, travel, music and wellness while encouraging
you to live fearlessly and fabulously.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I am your.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Host, Ash and this week we are continuing last week's
conversation that you loved so much with the Media Powerhouse
and Bacanal Queen Kemba Joe. Okay, so let's switch gears
a bit and talk about beauty and how Caribbean women
(02:46):
are making significant strides in the beauty community. So I
love the fact that as Caribbean women we age like
wine and not milk. Let's just stay on men, you know,
it's it's something that God has blessed us with and
we are very appreciative and humble to have been bestowed
(03:06):
upon this youthful glow.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
But there's companies like, for example, fenty Beauty of course
launched in Barbados last year.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Trinidad Yes and they're launching in Jamaica this year, which
is so exciting because I wanted, as you bring it up,
them launching in Trinidad as well, what do you think
about that and what do you think Rihanna's success in
the industry means to Caribbean women.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think that she did one of the smartest things
ever ever making sure that Caribbean women have access to
her products at home. And who knows what it took
to have to get everything in motion to have Fandy available,
you know, at first at home in Barbados and then
(03:56):
Trinidad and then now soon to come in Jamaica. I
think in the gap on accessibility and availability for us
was a power move, but really no about making them
power moves right. And I also think that when it
comes to what it means for beauty for Caribbean women,
I think it's inspiring to the folks that have their
(04:19):
own dreams and those lines to just keep at it.
So heir. In Triniad there are a couple of local
products that I absolutely love, and I say beauty, but
it's going to encompass all things that me and beauty.
Beauty I'm going to call a couple of brands because
the quality of their product is so amazing that yes
it's local, but because it's local, it's even more prior
(04:43):
to own them. And I'm on this journey of just
like gathering local brands like Infinity Stones, regardless of the costs,
as long as it's not going to break my pocket,
because I think it's important to lend support, especially when
their women owned. So Immortel Beauty she is the first
person whose line I completely fell in love with. She
(05:07):
does body creams, body shower gels, body oils, different things
like that. I mean, and I'd love to sit with
her one day and find out, you know, what her
inspiration was, knowing and understanding that Rihanna would have, you know,
also been working on her own beauty line, perhaps before
(05:27):
at the same time of and Immortel has grown. The
website is amazing. You get your deals, you have your
body butter and their shade button everything. So it caters
to dare I say, the skin of a Caribbean woman, right, Yes,
other people are gonna want to love it and it
may work for them too. But you know, there's something
very special about the things that we call our own
(05:50):
Razakh skin body cream, right, you know, I know you
know about razak that you must. There's a distinct smell
that comes with it that you know is Caribbean. I
wouldn't even say Jamaican, I will say Caribbean and Serbian. Yeah. Sure.
Immotel Beauty does that. And she has a huge line
different types of sense. It's not just one. You can
(06:13):
do so many different things. And she has vidillavists and
dragon fruits, citrus that and another one and another one,
and so Immotel Beauty, I think the real is inspiring
more people to keep shining their light in that way.
There's another product that I really love. It's aviary a
v I A R E with an accent at the end,
and she has oils, so it's vitamin E coconut oil
(06:35):
and then like a scent of something else. I love
all things to trus and flower like flowers, and so
that's that sounds like something I would love to try. Girls.
It's wonderful stuff, all local, one hundred Percentidadian, and of
course run by women. Right, so I think you know
we can talk about I'll exchange all of these pages
with you. You could check it out yourself and see
(06:57):
what that Caribbean love is like and it's when I
say distinctly that I feel like, although Rihanna has you know,
launched fancy beauty with a general beauty line, it's not
so much you know, the name of it is not
too Caribbean. The names of her products aren't you know,
with specific Caribbean women in mind. And it's not a
(07:21):
bad thing. It's just she has a global market, right,
But I think that her impact on the region is
just the inspiration for people to show up and show
out with this thing, whatever that thing is. And as
you know, you were talking beauty products, those are the
things that you know came up to me.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, no, definitely, I couldn't agree with you more. And
the thing with Rihanna with FENTI that I love is
that although she obviously has to and that's like one
of her big things, cater to like all skin shades
and you know, just make it more inclusive. But I
love is that her products like she has I think
it's like Barbadian cherry or like different things where she
(08:02):
highlights highlights Barbados Because as we all know, Rihanna has
always been unapologetic about her Caribbean roots. Ever changed her
accent never changed. You know, she's just one hundred child,
remind you quickly that she is.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Beijan, but her when she drugs quick or not, and
I feel almost like, oh my gosh, how can I
not think of her own loyalty and not loyalty but
dedication to her roots in the work and the things
that she does. Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And in alignment with that, it also makes me think
of Ayisha Curry. She has a line called Sweet July,
and she's Jamaican, so again, her line highlights like papaya
and different like different assortments of Jamaican esque and I
mean these are Caribbean things, but you know, things that
(08:54):
make her feel or remind her of her culture. And
I think that for her it's also different because she
might not have the limelight that Rihanna has, but she
is focused on you know, wellness and beauty, but also
like self care, which I think is really important. And
(09:15):
I love the way that she's tapping into the wellness
space because I think it's so needed, you know what
I mean, like especially just taking care of your skin.
And I just feel like the brand is really about
not only looking good, but feeling good and living well.
And I think that's a lot of times when we
see like advertisements for certain beauty products, it's about what
(09:38):
you're putting on your body. But if you're putting all
these creams and things on your body, but you're our
own people that don't like you, like we talked about earlier,
or you're being a ride or die, or you're not
drinking enough water or your out like no fenty beauty
or Sweet July or Deal or whatever you use is
(09:58):
going to mask it's you know what I mean? So
I do love how like, for example, just the slight
difference with Sweet July, let's say, is that they talk
about just like a holistic wellness, you know what I.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Mean, is not just about like beauty products.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I love that these are just two Caribbean women
that are kind of bigging up their culture, yeah, but
doing it in their own way.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, you taught me something. I didn't know that Missus Curry,
missus Steph Curkry was of Jamaican discern I genuinely did
not know. And then two I also did not know
that she has come out with oh gosh, does look
the anti behavior is coming out antinous? And what is
(10:44):
the Rock one two three Rock Way is where my
address is under the Rock Way. So now I've made
a note. Yes, I'm gonna go check it out because
I also think it's so important for women, especially Caribbean women,
to have their own identity. Yes, she may have started
as Steph Curry's wife or I know her, let me
(11:06):
not be like that. Just because we don't know, not
sense doesn't mean that she didn't have oh a lot
going for her before.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh my gosh, she has so many other things. I
was talking about this, soa me knowing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Of her as Steph Curry's wife, it is only a
part of who she is. And I think that that
is something that I'll say, Black women and especially Caribbean women,
have been always unapologetic about. You're gonna know that I
am my hoole person man or Norman. You are going
(11:40):
to know the audacity to live and have my own
identity is something that I think Caribbean women, especially or
Black women of Caribbean descent, we make our own lane
or we stay in that lane regardless of what it
looks and sounds like to anybody else, and that is very.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Special, definitely, definitely, And I mean that's part of the
reason when I'm talking about, even just in normal conversations,
anything to do with her, the millions of things that
she's doing. I really mentioned like Steph Curry's wife, because
I feel like that's just something that people say so
regularly that really has nothing to do with like who
(12:19):
she is as a person, and like we were talking
about earlier, like with our moms for example, like having
their own identity. And I think that for her, she
could have decided that she just wanted to be a wife,
you know, and a mother and not really go any.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Further from there.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But she's made her life so that she can do
all of that, and I'm sure that's not an easy
thing to do, especially she just had a brand new baby,
so you know, it's like she's such a good example
of the type of women that we've seen in our
life and what we were talking about with Caribbean woman
just kind of making a way, but making sure you
don't lose yourself and you know, still doing things that.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You love, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think so, like I said, I love the fact
that her line combines wellness and beauty, but she still
has that Caribbean touch, you know. I think It's a
great example of how culture can influence success in really
unexpected ways.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think so, I think so too, And it then
just makes you known for that thing. It's distinct to you,
so like it doesn't even have to be beauty and wellness.
No one else that I know has a space or
uses the phrase the one thing that we know. And
it happened at the beginning of this podcast episode, right
(13:34):
that no song safe. Now, that might be a saying
that is, you know, tried and true in these spaces
that you're in, but your identity a big piece of
your dedication to your roots. Right, you could have called
it anything else. You could have had that phrase be
anything else, but you chose for it to be that
the song safe.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
As you mentioned, this is not something like that I
planned out. It's just something I decided to do. So
Initially I just thought, Okay, I'll just talk to people
of Caribbean descent.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
But then I opened it up because that's not the
world I live in.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I have friends and family from all different backgrounds and
all different cultures. However, what I promised myself is I'm
always going to bring it back to or acknowledge my
Caribbean roots, or my Jamaican roots, or you know, being
a Caribbean woman in some way.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yes, for sure. And it's so funny. It's not funny her,
it's just ironic. And I love the way that we're
all connected because even before I fully grasped what this
segment was about, I just knew what it meant. I
didn't know what it meant, but I knew that in
the sound same it just I knew what it. Don't
ask me to translate it, I can't. I'll have to
(14:45):
think about, well it really means that this hold on,
wait what? And I feel like like we just know
what it means. We just know, and I feel like again,
so coming back into you know really and fenty Aisha
Curry and Sweet July, I'll bring it home to me,
(15:07):
you know, ay A Styler especially, you just see it
and you just know that there is this Caribbean influence.
And I think that's the beauty of what we get
to do and the people that we get to see.
And I'm inspired by them all being courageous enough and
audacious and bold face enough to really just put themselves
(15:30):
out there. Yes, yeah, one day I won't be so
scared such a chicken but scaredy cat. But but it
it really is special. It really really is special. So
lots lots that we have within our culture to to
appreciate and and and to look forward to. I think
(15:52):
as we continue blazing betrayal of our Caribbean's for sure
ha ha.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So you know we can't leave here without talking about
Carnival well as the season as this season girl, So
I love Carnival and you know, for me, carnival represents freedom,
like in its purest form right And to me, Carnival
is just I don't know, It's where you can just
(16:22):
fully let go of everything, work, stress, weight and aspectations,
you know, and just celebrate life. And I really think
it's an expression of joy, culture, pride, all of those
great things, and every Carnival, no matter where it's celebrated,
I just feel it's a reminder of just being grateful,
(16:46):
the importance of joy and how we should live fearlessly,
you know, if you will, because we've been talking about
that this whole time.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And as you would know, I have.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Never been to Trinidad Carnival, although it is high on
my list.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Before money, you get out of fucking and I can't,
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Have what's the song the greatest ben No, hey, listen,
young brother is doing I don't know what to the
air waves with that song and the best way possible.
I love that song.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
To But let's first of all, let's let's let's just
take a pause. Let me just pause, pause this for
a second so we can discuss this song. First of all,
I love Destiny's Child and Beyonce, and I don't mean
in like the beehive crazed way. I'm like I had
their first album. I like, genuinely enjoy their music and
(17:51):
things like that.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Let me preface that first.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, you see what the man said, let me get
it to you. Oh my gosh. First of all, nostalgia,
right right, Okay, I just really appreciated that. You know,
he talks about all the work that we have to
put in in the dance as women to deliver the
(18:15):
greatest bendovers. And I feel like, you know, the acknowledgment
is just it's it's it should be appreciated because it's
a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes, it's a lot of work. Well oil, how to
make sure you waste do the proper rotation, all of.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
These things and listen, you can't give the greatest bendover
to just anybody fucking fast. That's that's a lesson in
there that I feel like people aren't catching.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
No, it's the Philosophical Review for me, and I love it.
I did not think of it that way because I
am just.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It's the Harvard Business Review.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I appreciate you did, and you know what, I really
love hbr's stuff. So ten points, I just the analysis. Ye,
so young brother, he's okay, I need to see this
real quick. When he first started, we didn't know that
he could sing the way that he sun. So that
song for us, as Trainey's knowing where he what are
(19:15):
you doing and blowing up in the pandemic with a
different style, this is this is crazy good for us.
Like he is, just I can't wait to see when
where he's going to go next and what else he's
going to do. So that's that. But bring it back
to me, press play. Let's talk about Carnival and you've
not yet been Yes, the plan, yes, oh my gosh,
(19:38):
and the freedom, the joy and the culture that it represents.
Where were you going? Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So can you tell us a little bit about Trinidad carnival,
and in your opinion how it because you know, like
you said, we don't want to start Caribbean island wars,
but in your opinion how it compares to other carnivals,
to include Miami Carnival too, because that's a pretty big one.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
They're gonna come for me. Okay, So I am going
to mind the time because we could this could be
our whole episode by itself.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Okay, okay, yes, give the summary and then maybe we'll
do another episode.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
So for me, carnival is all that you shared, freedom,
joy culture. Carnival, for me and for many people who
love our culture, is deeply spiritual. It is an expression
of who we are as a people that cannot be
replicated anywhere else. Let me pause, because they're gonna come
(20:41):
for me. Because while I appreciate the carnivals that exist
everywhere else. So we have Cropple well, I won't say carnival,
but certain celebrations are people put on costumes, right, because
cropov is a little bit different. Bahamas Carnival, there's Jamaica's Carnival.
You have of notting Hill, you have New York and
(21:02):
Labor Day, you have Miami Carnival. I found out there's
something in Houston and Texas. I think something there right,
So all of these communities appreciating that which is something
on the road and affects somewhere. Those things matter, and
I love that there's a representation there's Japan Carnival. I
(21:23):
love it. But I think what makes what makes Carnival
the thing for me at home that you can't get
anywhere else is because of how deeply rooted to who
we are as a people that it is. And so
for anyone coming to Carnival or thinking of coming to
(21:45):
Trinidad for Carnival for the first time, toss out of
your mind that is just jump on wine and ragan,
misbehave and all of these things. It is really and
truly the two weeks leading up to Carnival and maybe
even in a month, depending on how many different things
you want to do, because there's so many cultural aspects
(22:05):
of it. Our panorama which Saint Lucia Carnival is also
in there with their own panorama as well. There is
Carnival in a Aruba around the same time too, and
they all have similar things. I feel like in some
of our regions, some of our locations in the region,
we share Callipso competitions in common. We share Panorama competitions
(22:30):
in common. And that's the real for me, it's the
authentic thing. Just yesterday I was chatting with someone about
Carnival plants and this is my time of the year.
Christmas could come on go, and I know you love
your Christmas. For me, it's Carnival that time of year
that I can't miss it. I can't miss it. Doesn't
(22:51):
help that I was born right, don't you, in morning,
many many years ago. I can't help it. And it
took me long to get to this level of articulation
because I just knew that Carnival was everything. And the
first year that I could not participate because of work
and my commitments and literally not being able to be
(23:12):
on your road, I felt an ache and a pain
that that was callossed over time. And when the pandemic
hits twenty twenty was our last time on the road,
I made the stupidest decision to not play Masks. I said,
next year, I'll play. It's okay. Now I'll be an
(23:33):
adult and i'll function an adult. I'll do things. And
it had no Carnival for two years. Yeah, and the
sadness that I felt. I was like, never again can I?
And Marshall has a song I will never miss our
next kind of all get there's just something in the
(23:56):
experience hair that you can't you read, can't get anywhere else.
And I just think it's because of the soil that
it is on. And people laugh at me and I say,
just about the two weeks before Carnival or three weeks
before Carnival, I call it the Carnival Spirit. I feel
like she comes down and she sushes across the Queen's
(24:20):
Park Savanna, which is where a lot of the main
parades and competitions and things take place, and she's the
image of Carnival. Do you know what Mocho Jumbi is, right?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Okay, So the Mocho Jumbie is one of our Carnival
characters and it's a character that is tall on stilts,
super tall. Yeah, so it's like a Stills walker. But
Mocho Jumbi is actually call them And for me, I
always describe the Carnival Spirit as she's a woman of course,
because she is Carnival and she is like a Mocho Jumbi,
(24:53):
tall but graceful, and her gown is this white thing
goosebumps that just flows behind her, and she just quietly
glides herself across the Queen's Parksavannah, and ever so often
I just a breeze would blow and I'm like, oh, Carnival,
let's here. It's thet thing. Ever, I don't know how
(25:15):
many other people relate. And then you go to the events.
You know, anyone coming, I would invite you to step
outside effects a little bit and go to the events.
Go to the panorama, go to the paniards, go to
the Collopster competitions, come out for the marsh gra There's
so much more than just the two days on the
street that we love. Don't get me wrong. I love
(25:37):
that we go right down till we lied on son
up seven am. I am there with the band. I
am leaving Port of Spain at ten o'clock an the
night because there's not ever enough time for me to
enjoy it. But it's just such a big piece of
the intangible, the thing that cannot be explained, the essence
(25:59):
of what it really means to enjoy freedom. And the
real joy is in being there. The kids. You see
the children out there, Kidi's Carnival junior Panorama where it's
all children like they just the culture is well alive.
And I think that that is one of the things
a lot of folks don't realize also exists. And as
(26:22):
much as I know, Miami Carnival has Panorama and different
places have it too. It's the continuation of what started
in Trinidad as the genesis of it all. So, I mean,
I don't know what else you need apart from the
fights and the accommodations. You know that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, that was a good history lesson for those of
us that have never been.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, it might still have time, you know, kind of
all is they said on fourth of March. We are
still you know, early enough.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And yeah, no, it's definitely on my list, definitely. I've
heard nothing but great things about it. So yeah, it's
definitely high on my list.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And we can't leave out the role that music plays
in Carnival, right, So, whether it's Michelle or Nyla or
Patrice or Young Brothers, we're talking about. You know, what
do you think so far, in your opinion, has been
(27:30):
the best year of Soca music. And before you answer,
I'll tell you my answer first. For me, it's hands
down twenty fifteen Q's DJ Private Ryan only the best
SOCA in the mix.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Legendary, versatile DJ world.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Type, so pleas because that is how else do you hello?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Hello? Hello, Hello, Hello?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
When I heare that, that's something to my entire soul,
like I can't you know? And oh last thing, I
think it's so interesting because twenty fifteen is it for me?
But so far, I know we just got here, we've
just arrived to twenty twenty five. But honestly, I think
twenty twenty five SOCA so far is giving a close second,
(28:21):
going to.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Give you an honorary Carnival training pass. Ok, So yeah,
I love that. I wish I wish you could have
seen my face when when you first asked the question,
howly hell am I supposed to choose one? Are you what?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
My face went from shock and awe to confusion because
we're gonna buy past years that big truck and footsteps
and then trembleets and then it's carnival and then come on,
how are we going to do that? But then you
redeemed yourself when you talk about twenty fifteen, and then
(29:01):
you redeemed yourself again that's what the triny pass because
this year I'm not gonna lie twenty twenty five. We've
been waiting. It's been too long. That's a Nylas song too.
We've been waiting post pandemic, or at least coming out
of the whole lockdown and not having Carnival. The very
first Carnival that we had, I don't feel was it.
(29:25):
They talked about it being the mac of Carnival and
the mother of all carnivals. I should say that, let
me correct myself, the mother of all carnivals, and it
was underwhelming. It was I was underwhelmed. I mean, still
had some nice hits. But this year, twenty twenty five,
I feel like people had time to shake off the
dregs and get back into the creativity. Hit after hit
(29:47):
after hit after artists, and it has a feel more
than just the hits. There's a feel of the twenty
fifteen that Private Ryan has solidified himself new Hall of
Fame with and I'm not sure why as yet, but
there's something about the sweetness of the music for this year.
(30:10):
Last year was a nice one too, but nowhere near
what we have. From what it looks like we're gonna
have for twenty twenty five, and then definitely twenty twenty seven.
I think if I have twenty I mean twenty fifteen,
I think if I have to go back in time
the next year, Oh gosh, I can't remember the year exactly,
(30:31):
but it would have been when Marshall and Ecstatic were
at their prime. They gave us these songs like big Truck, Footsteps,
Toro Toro with Shaggy and being a Man. Yeah, that
those years. I feel like it's somewhere nine somewhere between
ninety seven and two thousand that that window or maybe
(30:54):
extended to like two thousand and two. I don't know.
Maybe it's because it was just around the time that
I was also old enough to appreciate carnival parades and
then want to play like as a big woman and
going on your road for carnival and thing.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
But meanwhile I was not old enough yet takes really
acceptable anywhere about myself.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So you know, you have in school, we have our
carnival jump up in school, and I remember the years
that those songs came out. Now, to be fair, late nineties,
I was still in primary school right, but being able
to enjoy like one of my first memories jumping up
in the school, jump up, charge to a road, to
a road, charge to a road, to the coming from me,
(31:39):
Spanish main road. Well you're your your like there's there's
something in that era of songs. And then I'll say
into like two thousands, early two thousands to mid two
thousands was when I would have been old enough to
again pretend like I was a bigger one, big up
my parents. You know, because I was on the road,
I would cut with rules and making sure that you
(32:02):
had strategic points because you know, I may not have
been old enough and definitely was not able to put
my body in a two piece would be done better.
But being able to be on the road as a spectator,
there's always someone that you know. I have an older cousin.
He comes every year. He plays a carnival and all
that kind of plays mass participates in carnival and he
(32:23):
you know, we know he's in this band. So we're
looking off for this person. I have an aunt relentlessly.
She is the most organized, well put together professional woman.
But she would play cards, she would play masks. She's
in carnival every year. My cousin used to come down
to our house. They lived a ways away, and so
(32:44):
I just knew when I was younger that I'm getting
to spend Carnival with my cousin who was like my sister,
and we are in Kiddy's Carnival, and then her mom
is on the road for Monday and Tuesday. So when
I was old enough to figure out how everything sort
of played a role and came together, I was like, WHOA, Okay,
this this is what this is. And I think the sentimentality,
(33:08):
sentiment Yeah, the sentimentality, I feel like that's not a word,
but I'm gonna make it sentimental feeling. Let's just keep
it safe. Sentimental feeling with those songs made it some
of the best years for me. Plenty woods to say,
the experience of whatever Carnival was, from primary school or
(33:29):
secondary school or you know, a put on my first
reil short pump pump shots and my sneakers with my
bandan in my back pocket to walk on the road
in the teens, those things stand out to me. And
who knows, maybe the music was trash, I don't know,
but it was so much part of the lived experience
(33:52):
that it just made it the best.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I love that and to just highlight what you were
talking about.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
As far as what it is with the music so far,
I don't know, but I get the same feeling you get,
like it's just the feeling of the music is very
reminiscent of twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And it is.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He said, it's just so sweet. It coming like contents Malek,
very sweet.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Oh gosh, I'm gonna cry. It's gonna be so good.
I am very very excited to just be able to
be in this space, you know again. And yes, I
love being on the road. But songs like you know,
(34:40):
I mean another artist up and coming, not female, but
Michale Tajer write songwriter for so many years. He's just
the sweetest, humblest you know, lover of his craft and
practitioner of his craft, profector of his craft. And you
know we're in this season. And another reason to come
(35:01):
is on a random Wednesday afternoon, you you finish, imagine
this or I picture this close eyes, long hart day
at work, right, long heart day at work, report over
trying to get ahead of another report. Some of the
deadline co worker employee bought somebody just you know, adding
(35:23):
to the stress of the day. And it is peak
time of the afternoon, so four thirty five o'clock, and
yet somewhere in the distance, you're hearing the sweet sound
of pan because somebody is practicing somewhere, because panorama is
coming up. Whether it's a single pan, whether it's a
(35:46):
whole band, whoever, it is like, and I've had that
walking down the road, put off the work or whatever,
trying to just you know, end by day, and you
slow down because you've heard pan, And then all of
a sudden, did they not so bad anymore? Like it
wasn't so bad they you know, don't matter a cry
(36:08):
or what every case was. You know, it's high stress
high I mean, and again corporate. It's just that in
a lot of ways, you just walked on the road
and it has pan. You just walked on the road
and you know traffic you're sitting on in a line
of traffic trying to head home. But then you pause
because wait where I'm coming from? Pan? Oh my goodness,
(36:30):
it is. It is something that I feel. Now that
I'm telling you about it, I realize, Oh my god,
I'm really lucky. I'm really lucky in this life to
experience what I get to experience every year. This is
this is normal. This is every It's not sometime your
every day in life. This is every carnival, every John
(36:50):
or feb you know, December. Sometimes the carnival is really early.
This is life, this is my every day. I'm really
we are triny people. We are really blessed that we
get to experience it. And for some people carval is
not their thing for a lot of different reasons, and
that's okay too. But the spirituality of it, literally, like
(37:13):
my shoulders just will move from by under my ears,
just relax all the way, you know what I mean.
That's that's what it means to have Carnival and all
of that to say Tasha. So anyway, Mikaele Tasha who
when to Ronnie Bushes to come back his contribution to
twenty twenty five and the sweetness of it. I always say,
(37:34):
if you could play the song on our pan, that's
where it was going. If you could play the song
on pan, then you know it's sweet, bad bad bad
bade and Tasuas or one of his songs with this
sir energy. There's a there's a junior pan rama band
that is at least one of them is playing it.
I think other people are playing it too, and you
(37:56):
hear it and it's amazing. Coco tea, beautiful, beautiful Cocoa
Tea is another one that a couple of man's are
doing as well, and it's just it's really special and
it's really magical, and I how to not love being
a true boy that we really keep it. It's amazing.
(38:19):
I love it's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. So that is
that is home. That is home for me.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Thank you, Thank you Ash for asking such a question
that has taken me and us all on this crazy
journey of now.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I feel like I need to go on and find
pan to listen to as soon as we wrap up
a bit, because right, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
That's a perfect end to that segment. For our final segment. Yes,
I'm going to ask you hmm, let's see my questions?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Should I ask you?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I am going to ask you eight rapid fire questions.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Okay, let me bread somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
You have to answer with the first thing that comes
to your minds. Oh no, there's no wrong answer. It's okay,
first thing, I have an.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Important question, okay, PG unjurated, right.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Of course, Hell, you know it's nothing fast PGNNG on
this show.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Okay, all right, yes, have to make sure that my
mind is doing.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yes, okay, yes, nothing salicious or inappropriate, and I will Yes,
I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
You've made it this far without any of that. It's
true me.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I trust myself all right, ready, yes, all right? First question,
what is the most important lesson you've learned from your
mother or a grandmother that you still reference.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
As an adult? Be your full self, love and say
away out of sea. I love that doubles are bacon shark,
Jesus Christ, doubles, doubles double double drunk chicken or ox stale.
(40:19):
Mm hmmm. I thought that because you mentioned it earlier
when when I talked again, What are you most proud
of my authenticity? Oh? I love that?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Okay, I already know you're gonna bad me up for least.
What I'm gonna ask anyway, And I said, the first
thing that comes to your minds Okay, don't start with
that up, just answer. I'll try favorite Soca song I know,
just answered savanahrass Okay, okay, okay, fa the favorite thing
(41:01):
about being.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
From Trinidad Soka unconnival.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Oh love that if you could talk to your eighteen
year old self from the future, So from today, what
would you.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Say you are so worthy of everything that you will accomplish? Hmm,
that's so beautiful. Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, And the final question, what is one thing that
you would tell anyone who feels stuck, unsure, or afraid
to go after their dreams?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Do the work. Sit with yourself and do the work.
Find out why you're so scared. Make friends with that
fair and hold its hand as you take the step
towards that dream. I love that. I love that. That's
(41:59):
so beautifully said. Thank you your make up for that
terrible question about.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I'm like, I know she's got a bad news because
she already told me when I talked about the Private
Rye twenty fifteen, So I know she's going to be
looking like, is she really asking me to.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Pick like my favorite of all times? Like? What is
wrong with you? See? I was like my favorite, my
favorite today? My favorite? Like what what kind of ohs?
Is the first one?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
That?
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Really? I was awful? But you made a friend you mad? Right?
Oh my gosh again. I wish you could see my face.
Trust me, I could feel it. I could see the
wrath coming through I could feel it you didn't see
(43:00):
how I froze, like everything froze, my brain, my thoughts,
my body. I just, oh my gosh. You were trying
to figure out like how did I even get here?
What kind of question? But I know I knew it
was coming. I knew you were going to make it
(43:22):
hot and then bacon shock with doubles. It depends what
time of day is it. Where am I? Oh gosh, hilarious.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
That concludes the episode that was so much fun it
was and see you made it. I did?
Speaker 3 (43:42):
I did? I. This was absolutely wonderful, Ash. Thank you
for having me, thank you for this community that you
have built and continue building. And I am just in
awe of let's talk the things. So until we get
to talk to things again, this was an absolute pleasure.
(44:03):
Thank you again, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Oh, thank you so much. And before we go, I
forgot one thing. Sure, So I usually or I shouldn't
say usually, I would say since maybe the end towards
the end of last season, I allow guests to ask
me one question that they want to ask me since
typically like guests don't usually get to ask questions.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
So you have a question that you wanted to ask me.
You don't have to, but you can. Yes, I do.
Where do you think, let's talk the things could go
in the next three years.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I would love for it to be or continue to be,
I should say, a safe space for persons of Caribbean
descent to come and hear, you know, the stories of
whether it's celebrities or just normal people like you and
you know, or whether it's persons within the luxury hotel
(45:05):
industry or just the merit of guests that we've had,
and just be open to learning about other cultures or
hearing stories that they can resonate with. You know, I
find that being a person of Caribbean descent, when I'm
online or looking at people's videos or you know, just
dialogue that they have, those are the things that I
(45:27):
can most relate to when people that look like me,
are from the same background as me are having certain
types of conversations, because then it feels like it's attainable.
It's somewhere that you can go to feel like, oh,
you know me too, were oh wow, she tried this
or he tried this.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
I never tried that.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
And I think today is a great example. You know,
you even explaining just the depth of Trinidad Carnival. I
think somebody listening that's really going to open their eyes
because it opened my eyes. You know, I know that
there was history there, yeah, you know obviously with my
dad being a musician and things like that, but I
didn't know to the level of history. Like you said, obviously,
(46:10):
there's so much more people can look up. But it
will likely make someone say, wow, you know, let me
look that person up or that thing that you know
was talked about that I never knew before, or amazing.
It might make a person say, wow, you know, I
never even knew about Trinidad Carnival. Now I want to
go to Trinidad. So I think it's important just to
have those conversations, and so I would hope that it
(46:33):
just continues to grow, continues to resonate with people. Perhaps
one day I'll bring it on camera, but like I've
had my offline and I'll stay it here. You know,
I like it audio only only because I just feel
like persons are more comfortable speaking and they're not concentrated
on their parents. Yes, but I've had so many people,
(46:56):
guests or otherwise, you know, ask me to bring it on,
which I'm really humbled about that or I shouldn't stay
online to bring it with video.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yes, yes, and the opportunity is endless creating this safe
space and then you know, Caribbean people, it's amazing the
way that we all are from the same place, but
we could look so different. The diversity just in how
we present, and I think the exactly having people see
that too is important. So my name might be and
(47:28):
we see it here in not only time. You know
your name might be of one it sounds like it's
of one ethnic background and then you show up and
it's like whoa hold on And that's the beauty of
us being Caribbean people. So anyway, absolutely, I'm so glad
that I that I got the answer to ask the question,
because you know, maybe maybe there's okay all right, my brain,
(47:51):
no brain started thinking.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
It's definitely something I want to do, like you know,
a live show, things where I can interact with the audience,
things like that. Yeah, but yeah, that's definitely on my radar. Well,
before we go, is there anything you'd like to share
with our listeners, like if you want them to follow
you or you know, just any you want to share.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Absolutely, So as of right now, I can be found
on Instagram, Camba Joe underscored talks and pretty soon through
the rest of twenty twenty five, the courage to continue
growing and stepping out and be even more present is
going to be there. So that's where you can connect
with me. And just big thanks to each person that
(48:37):
sat down and hoo does cacklin And you know, just
if there's one thing we know it's going to happen,
there's plenty laughter, but just just whatever you may be,
whether it is in the Caribbean outside of the Caribbean,
I hope that this is a little bit of home
in some way, maybe not triny home, but just knowing
(48:59):
that as Caribbean people, we all want people for shure.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
I love that. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Thank yoush, thank you so much again. And yeah, until that,
I say, I feel like, Eah, that was we talk
about things.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I feel like we've just experienced the spirit of Carnival
in full force. I mean talking about the joy, the
freedom and the unapologetic expression that it brings is just
so refreshing to me. You know, there's something so powerful
about how it connects us to our roots, to culture
(49:41):
and to a sense of liberation, isn't there. I mean,
it's not just about the costumes or the music, as
we said, or even given the greatest bendover. It's about
embracing who we truly are. If there's one thing that
I hope you took away from from this week's episode
(50:02):
and the episode prior, it's that freedom and joy don't
need to be earned. They're yours to claim, no matter
where you come from. Carnival shows us that in the
purest form, there is no shame in dancing, laughing, and
in just living your life to the fullest. We should
(50:24):
all be embracing that type of freedom every single day.
As for the beauty industry, the beauty industry is no
longer about what's on the outside really. I mean, granted,
we still want to look nice on the outside, but
it's more so about representation, empowerment, and creating space for everyone.
(50:47):
Remember this, Your joy is a revolution, Your freedom is
your power, and that is something that no one can
take away from you.
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