Preserving The Heartbeat of Grenada | Ft. Ian Charles

This week, we are talking di tings with the CEO and Co-founder of Jambalasee Grenada, Ian Charles.

Jambalasee Grenada is a platform dedicated to preserving the traditions, sounds, and stories of Jab Jab culture. More than a celebration of heritage, Ian’s work with Jambalasee Grenada is a bold reclamation of identity; one that invites us to reflect on the deeper meanings of resistance, visibility, and cultural continuity. Through storytelling, community engagement, and historical documentation, Jambalasee Grenada is giving voice to one of the most powerful yet misunderstood cultural expressions in the Caribbean.

In this episode we discuss the importance of discernment and being a good person, the beautiful connection between Jamaica and Grenada, the history of Jab Jab, "The Jab House Project", and so much more! As usual there are several introspective moments and a lot of laughs! So grab your tea, coffee, or a glass of wine, and let’s talk di tings!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This week, we are diving into the heart of Grenada's
rich cultural landscape with Ian Charles, a cultural strategist, storyteller,
and the CEO and co founder of Jambalassi Grenada. His
work is rooted in a powerful mission to ensure that

(00:23):
jab jab, one of Grenada's oldest and most profound traditions,
is not only remembered but revered in a world that
moves fast and often forgets its origins. Ian and Jambalaci
Grenada are building something that slows us down and brings
us home. This conversation is about legacy, resistance and the

(00:48):
unshakable truth that when we understand our roots, we walk
through the world with greater power. So grab your tea, coffee,
or a glass of wine and let's talk the Tings.
If you're listening to the podcast on Apple Podcast, please

(01:10):
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grab your tea, coffee or a glass of wine and
Let's Talk the Tings. Hello everyone, Welcome back to another

(01:30):
episode of Let's Talk the Things, where we discuss personal growth, travel, music,
beauty and wellness while encouraging you to live fearlessly and fabulously.
I'm your host, Ash, and this week we are talking
to tings with the CEO of Jambalasi, Grenada Ian Charles

(01:52):
hi Ian. How are you, hi Ash?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm doing fine.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
That's great. Great, glad to hear, Glad to hear. So
for you and those listening for the first time, we
begin each episode with our listener's favorite segment, and it's
called that no sounds safe, So I don't be scared,

(02:18):
don't be afraid. So what I'm what's going to happen
is I'm going to read messages or social media posts
that listeners sent in. And if you think it sounds
crazy or a little bit concerning, you don't agree, you
just say that sounds safe and explain why. And if
you agree, you can just say you agree and explain
why it sounds good? All right, perfect, all right, all right.

(02:42):
So the first person said, when self respect is intact,
you don't argue, you elevate and nothing is louder than
a person who chooses calm when chaos is expected.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Agree with that, and I think, yeah, if the human
is abide by that, we're going to have more tranquil universe.
We're going to have more unity, and it wouldn't be
walking yes so much feelings that ego and selfishness A
hundred Yes, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yes, I one hundred percent agree as well, Like that
sounds very safe. You know, I think that a lot
of times we can come from a place where we
feel if we just you know, show this person our
point of view or just show this person that we're
good enough that they'll see our value. And most of
the time that doesn't work because sometimes people just can't

(03:35):
meet you where you are. And if if more people
like you said, just accepted that and kind of left
persons where they are, like you said, we wouldn't have,
you know, that back and forth that we tend to have,
sometimes you.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Wouldn't because you would have once we have respect for
each other, respect for each other perspective, it's going to
be a cool, tranquil world. And I think most of
the times people get tired of in just trying to
have the life say or have your point proven. It's
not about understanding. We may have different perspectives to school.
That's what helps the world be the world. You know,

(04:10):
that's so so adamant of getting the point that I'm
wrong and I'm wrong and you're right. Yes, ecosystem of
different personality, yes.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, And speaking of beautiful ecosystem, you guys can hear
the birds chirping in the background. I love that. I
love it, perfect, perfect timing. The birds are paid actors.
But no, you're so right. It's so true, and you
know we say it all the time on this podcast.
Respect is really at the foundation and the helm of

(04:46):
any relationship that you have. You know, and if you're
speaking to somebody or you're communicating with somebody that is
listening to respond and to get their point of view
across rather than listening to risk to understand what you're saying,
then yes, those problems definitely a right. So yeah, this
one is very very safe. We see that sounds safe, yes, yes,

(05:11):
all right. So the next one, someone said, when Caribbean
people are on time, it means they are not staying long.
They're in our business. It's true.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
That might have that might have.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean it does sounds safe because it's not
very nice, but it's sound safe because it's it probably
is the truth.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's probably because if you're going to go to a
place that maybe stay the entire the entire duration. You might.
I'm not I'm not going to relate, but you might
come there within a time that is that is comfortable
to you, versus coming exactly. Because if you're coming early,
my signal might keyword is mighty fasting.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Right, that's very much a part of our culture. Making
sure I say night. You know, I don't want to
put everybody in the same category, but it's true.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
True no wants some kind of.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, so we'll say safe ish. I like that. I'm
gonna have to add that as a category. Safeish. I
like that. Okay, three more so. The next person said,
don't ever ignore the signs you asked God to show you.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's it, That's it. Yeah, remember more guided by whoever, whoever,
you know, whatever perspective, whatever spiritual believe you know, vibe
you believe it, you know. But right, you know, the
Well is full of signs, and some signs you may
not once, some signs you might, but signs are and

(07:05):
I think if you're guided by the Creator, I don't
think any sign will be a negative sign. We may
not exactly, but I think the holy thing overall, vibe
is going to be a past. Yes, that one is safe.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
One absolutely, one hundred percent safe. And it's really important
what you said. You know, we may we may not
see it in the moment, right, it might seem like
it's not safe in the moment, but you look back
and you say, man, God really prevented me from getting
in some foolishness, you know, or really prevented me from
making a decision or being in a certain place where

(07:42):
I shouldn't have been. And you may not understand it
at the time because you may want it to happen
at the time exactly, but you know He knows best,
or whatever higher power you believe in is guiding you.
Like you said, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Correct, correct, that's very very yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah. And also another fact is we asked for signs sometimes.
And I was laughing with a friend about this. You
ask for a sign and then God will give you
a sign. You say, no, man, no, man, not that
signed you man, not a sign.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
You are able to know how you want. But if
exactly you're just saying that man plans, sorry, man appoint
God disappointed and in the sense okay, but your plans
not happen, And you'm like, yo, this didn't happen. I'm
so bummed out. I'm so I'm sad, I'm disappointed. But

(08:35):
when you really come back over life like your cank, God,
this happened, because if this didn't happen, yes, you may
not have happened. So life is one big role than
people have to a movie in general. I just have
to be able to have faith, you.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Know, absolutely absolutely I agree that one is one hundred
percent safe. Yes, okay, two more. The next person said,
I'm trying to get in shape for the summer, but
I always feel for something nice.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, just join the line.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
That is definite reality struggle, and.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
We all struggle with wonderful foods and the temptation of yeah,
I want to just touch on. They want to get
in shape for the summer, but hopefully that that should
be just getting in shape overall because healthy as well
summer time.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
That nand yeah, yeah, well we.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Need to be in shape as human beings to give
ourself longevity.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
So that's so true. That's so true. And also it
reminds me of like cleaning your house. Right, if your
house my mom always used to say, if the horse
is always clean, you don't have to worry about Oh
my gosh, someone's coming by last minute, or you know
how Caribbean parents are. What if something happens to you
and the ambulance has to bring you, your room has

(10:02):
to be tidy.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like Oh.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I used to hate when my mom would say that
because I'd be like what, like why would that even have?
Like why is your mind going there? But the point being,
if you keep your place tidy, you don't have to
worry about when the unexpected happens because it's always tidy. Now, granted,
obviously you're going to have a little mess here and there,
but you shouldn't have to be doing like crazy crazy

(10:24):
Sunday cleaning every single day, hence the term Sunday cleaning, right, exactly,
all right, And the last one, the person said, your
boundaries aren't pushing away friends and family, they're clearing out
the gas lighters, emotional manipulators and toxic energy. Keep standing
up for yourself. You're doing exactly what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's safe, undred persafe. Yeah, the undred person say it
because again that's something that I am, well, I should
say doing right. No, not just just in everyday life,
because you might have a nice heart appeal heard everybody's
love kumbaya. But the truth is that is not the reality.

(11:08):
Some people are definitely gas like as some people are
definitely yes, because some people don't have your best interests
that had and they might disguise themselves as you know,
wonderful souls when underneedated doll something negative. So that's one
hundred percents I'm safe, And if more persons could be
conscious of that, I think we're going to have a

(11:31):
more balanced, less draining life energy dream in life. So
one hundred percent yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
For sure, No, for sure. I think you know, discernment
is so important. But the thing about discernment that I think, hm,
we don't often talk a lot about is when, as
you said, you have a good heart. So what people
don't understand is when you live a certain way and
you view people in a certain way, sometimes you can
project that onto people. Yes, because you would do something,

(12:01):
you would project that's onto the person because maybe you
like them or you care for them. But like you said,
they could be looking at you as hmmm, this is
someone I could use, you know, this is someone I
could be befriend and then maybe get something out of.
And you're so clueless because your mind is not even
thinking that, you're thinking, of course they want to be
my friend. Of course they want to be my partner

(12:22):
or business partner, whatever the case may be. And all
the while they're you know, manipulating gas slighting, doing whatever
they need to do because they have an end goal.
But I always like to say, for the people that
do have a good heart and going things with pure intentions,
you can never win. Those people can never trick you,
because God doesn't sleep, and they will be revealed eventually.

(12:46):
You know, That's what I think those people don't quite understand.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Thank you, Thank you very exactly. Yeah, whatever yield something negative,
if you're a good person, you way, your good vibes
could a negative.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Something exactly, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Keep doing good. I know sometimes you get down on
oh and oh my god, you're disappointed, But like you
say a while ago, you know, it's sometimes what we
view as disappointment is actually victory lapsed that we would
recognize later on in life.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. And you know, lastly,
just to close a loop on this, I think it's
important because we live in an age of you know,
social media and people having like an outward personality versus
an inward personality. Make sure you're a good person on
the inside, Like, make sure you're a good person when
nobody's looking, because you might think that you only have

(13:45):
to be a good person in public or in front
of persons, thinking like, oh, well, as long as other
people think I'm good, then that's fine. But your energy
and who you are on the inside will always reveal itself.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Like I always say, you can't speak realness, No you can.
You can't fil you're a good personal whatnot? And And
the thing is, when you do bad, you you you're knowing.
You know. Some people people have notion that judgment days
when you die and heaven and hell. I don't believe that.
I think judgment is bed in you when you do

(14:19):
something bad. When you do something good, you know you
have in it feeling and you that wasn't nice, that
was wonderful, of course, the judgment in you. So you
could pick for the social media, you could pick, you
can pick for the gram and all and all them thing,
but you've done in your soul. You know the type
of person you are.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, and you come to tart the things today you
know and I like it, Yes, I love that. Thank
you again for being here, And I want to begin
where I think stories always do, right the beginning. So
what are some of your earliest memory of job job

(15:01):
and can you explain what that is for our audience,
people that may not be familiar, and how did those
experience shaped experiences shape you.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Okay, well first I'll explain job job and you're not
going to get into my experience. Sure, Yeah, the job
job is a resistance and a revolt. I'm going to
go all deeper before I go, because we get to
that path. Our job job is a forced emancipation masquered

(15:32):
massquered in the sensor, portraying a character in which you're
not so keep that in mine. Emancipation masquered which is
shrouded in resistance and revolt against a system which was
deliberately designed to mentally, physically, spiritually, culturally, socially, economically, nutritionally

(15:55):
early alleys reew off your African identity and slavement. In
my opinion, enslavement is the biggest atrocity known to mankind.
You literally read an entire race of their roots. We
have a four hundred years plus generation, yeah, en which

(16:17):
our history normally starts in enslavement which is crazy because
we were kings and queens and rulers of the world.
Then you have this four hundred plus years of enslavement
in which no context, no history, The only history was
written through the lens of your colonizer. You have to
understand that we have a massive generation. Yeah, at least

(16:40):
in the Caribbean. Massive generation. Yeah, if you have no knowledge.
But thanks to the Pan African movement, that is massive
right now and still the same. Social media is actually
a major engine with that. But the masculade of the
jab jab is black. You dub yourself in black. Now

(17:02):
what you used to get black changes by time, by errors.
By that time frame, originally you would have used more lasses.
Then you would have gone to suit a charcoal burns
the burnt wood. Then when pigments, Then when cars and
roads started to come into green and they start using

(17:23):
all engineral entire, which may not be the best in
terms of healthwise, but they the look of the job.
Job is a signature black and greasy, toting cattle horns,
blowing shells, beating drums and pulling chains. Now the change

(17:44):
is critical. The change symbolizes which I really love is
stirrectly ironic, but the slaves the chains symbolizes freedom from enslavement. Remember,
we was chained and shackles to come on the trans
at land exlatery to chattel slavery. No one went on
these ships willy daily and having fun. We were captured

(18:07):
right and our neck and foot and hand and sings
chained up. Every morning when we play jab, these chains
that we drag is a symbol of breaking through, breaking
free from that.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
The chains are dragged. Okay, got you.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Dragged, You could drag, you could work it, could put them.
Some people put them to put it around the necks,
depend them, went to the gym where itself signifies them.
But a lot of it is being dragged. Then you
have a look. Remember black people were seen as the devil.
The devil is black. God is the white God, Jesus,

(18:41):
the angels. When we were able to go back into
the church, all that was white. Who is black the devil?
You have to understand how deep this enslavement goes. Right now,
we may be free from physical slavery, but mental slavery
is still a massive thing that we need to debound.

(19:02):
Most people wanted to Most people want to talk about reparation,
and talk about monetary but there is no amount of
money that could suffice for the atrocities of chattel slavery.
But one of the main points of the plan is
psychological reversal. Okay, massive, we need to reverse psychology and

(19:24):
what was done through religion, through white supremacy. As you
as it relates to how you look. The long hair,
the straeten hair, your nose, your eyes, your lips, your skins,
all that was demonized. You have to understand that. So
the character of the jab Dab is serious powerfulness. We
were not seen as humans, we were seen as subhuman.

(19:47):
So we got even blacker, we got even blacker forced emancipatient,
maspirit the kind of people like all the world sees
jabas the cannibal thing. The job is emancipatient kind of values.
That European culture thing where they will have the pretty
dress and their costumes and the spreaders and the high colors.
That is not Africans, that is European. However, the Africans

(20:11):
want to have their own thing. The jew early morning
just before done with. Obviously we were not welcome to
the party, so we had we had to probably under distress,
so we get. We got our black tool. We enforced
the color of our blackness. We are product for a blackness.

(20:31):
Normally you're going to see jabs with hands, tattle hands,
gold hands. All that goes with the aesthetics of fear,
the aesthetics of the devil. They say, we were the
devil raised to come on the earth. Wead everything wrong,
So we use mockery. We use mockery, ridicule and satire
to bring across and showcase not aur alls, but the

(20:53):
characterization of somebody else's ills. So get in that dung pak.
How how affro centric it is my my some of
my earliest memories that job is watching job in my
mom's lap, because you could you could hear it. The
jamas a wat. Yeah, three drums. You have two different drums,

(21:17):
the base, which gives you a constant doom doom, doom,
doom doom. Then you have the koope. The koope is
a gem is normally a gem by drum. Okay, pattern
it is the patern it is the is that. And
then you have the cutter or the main range. These

(21:38):
three drums playing in one but however gives you sorry
they're playing the three different patterns but they give you
an overall rhythm. That is the job. You're going to
have cong shell. A cong shell is is the accompaniment's instrument.
Is normally what you call the call. So before the

(21:59):
Germans instead beaten in any Grenadian parish or village, especially
within the parish of Saint Andrew and the parish of
the Mark, now you go here, you go have job
all throughout GRENADEA yes, but Saint Andrew and Saint Mark, Sorry,
Saint Andrew and Patrick. Sorry, they have a very very

(22:21):
high concentration of villages of job players. So what is
going to hear normally for us is a shell. The
shell is the call. The shell communicates with the people,
let them know, hey, this is about your hat and
come this sort of stuff. Communication devices, which also the drum,
was a major communication device during enslavement as well, and

(22:42):
it was also banned. It was also banned and plantations. So,
like I said, the job is rooted in resistance and
revolt against the overall holistic system which was designed to
kill you up your African tradition, literally wipe you out.
You have to understand that. Yeah, because right now we
speak English, our first language is not English. My name

(23:04):
is Ian Charles. But Ian Charles is I mean, it's
very British name, very.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
English married African.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so I actually denongs my name. My my African
name is Drumo. I was given by I was given
that by an African that I met. You know, remember
we remember we were taken from West Africa and brought
to the Caribbean. So then, besides besides the obvious issues
with slavery, you have massive families that are being displaced.

(23:36):
We could come from the same village, but I'm in Grunida,
my neighbor is in Saint Vincent, my aunt is in
is not week, my my friend is somewhere, So it's displacement.
We all come from West Africa, but it's a displacement
that have us. So all the language, all of our ways,
all that is ripped from us. So the drums were very,

(23:57):
very very imperative and communicating when they're gonna have rebellions,
when they would have whatever. You know, they'll be able
to communicate when you are true exactly. I want the
planters realize that they banned the drums. So when you
see the drum, when you come to Grenada and you
see the drums, beating hard to the morning. You have
to understand everything has the symbolism.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I grew up I'm as an Andrews person. So okay,
I won't hear the drums coming along before I see them.
And the closer the drums get, your heart start beating faster.
At least my hairt start beating fast, because I mean,
it's still scary still as a kid. You know, you're
the black thing coming down, and I really understand it.

(24:41):
And so I mean head on to Saint Andrew's head,
onto the juve and then you're all. You got in
golf in it. You got in golf in the culture now.
So my uncles, who are the four members and founders,
are most international. They are accredited with the musical formation
of JAB music, which is the nineteen ninety one release

(25:03):
of Jambalassi Rule. Hence our company jam Balassi Yeah, m
Balassi is critical to the isolature of grenade at the music.
My uncles had their vision to structuralize the song of
the Jab and that was the first time he was
ever put on record, and the first time that the
kun shell ever made it on a record. And know
the council is a major major identity along with the

(25:26):
drums of Grenadian music. So the foundation of the subgenre
of soka jab jab music was formed in Glander nineteen
ninety one with the release of jam Balassi Rule by
Mark International. We did a documentary on that nineteen yeah,
so to show the history of it. So because we realized, Yo,

(25:47):
this is something that the world, the world is yearning
for and we need to structuralize our music any jan
society exactly. So we are right now in that stage
of it, and is a beautiful thing to be that
embedded on that close to the culture. So as a
young person, I would be in my uncle's studio overy

(26:08):
morning when they go to play on the roads. I
will be on the Chuck. That same year in nineteen
ninety one, I was on the Chuck and looking at
that song. That song came out one week before Green
That's Cannibal and won the road match. I'm not sure
if you know what do you know what road match?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I'm a little bit familiar, but I know it's different
on different islands. I had Ebony tell Us Ford, who's
the CEO of Lavish on here a few weeks ago,
and she explained to me oh you do okay, she
explained to me. Yeah, she's very sweet. She explained to
me a little bit about it, but we didn't get
like deeply rooted into what it is.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, road match. Road match is the title given to
the most played song on the streets during Canival. Okay,
So having a song come over one week before Canival
and when the road match shows you the impact it
had on the island you got before you met, before
heard job job structured on a record as a song.

(27:05):
And still at that time nineteen ninety one, which is
two thousand and two, twenty five now over thirty yeah,
thirty four years ago, right, right at that time, job
job was not as accepted as it is right now
because it was just bridges. It's just just revolutionary. Just
people who want to stand up for.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
A callay job, right.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Arm man jack playing jab, people trying to play job shot.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
That's funny, It's very funny. It's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
It's it's great because people want to understand and and like,
still we have a major issue right now, people still
understanding the background job. They still see that punanthrolic hypersexuality,
romanticized enough alcohol and again you can't blame them because
these are some of the images that get posted on

(28:01):
Instagram and on the socials, and even in the music sometimes,
you know, the music videos and things showcase that, even
the lyrics showcase that. But when you actually get to
the traditional aspect of it, the cultural aspect of it,
which is the heart and soul of Jambalassi Grenada, Jambalassi
Grenader's mission, well, Jambalaski Grenada Jambaassi Grader is an entity

(28:24):
which documents and preserved Grenader's traditional job job with antipasis
on the song for obvious reasons with the song, because
you want to make sure that one my uncle's legacy
and to the legacy of Grenader and the job job
is correctly showcased. So it's a lot going on Grenader's Cannibal,

(28:46):
Grenader's culture, Grenader's job job is spreading originally and internationally.
It is world renowned. The spice mass is getting bigger
and bigger every year, so it is imperative we as
a nation right now make sure or we have verified
reference points so when persons come to enjoy our culture.

(29:07):
When other producers in other islands, other countries want to
produce a jab beat you have reference points. Just like
you want to buil a reggae, you want to build
a hip hop, you want to buil a Calypso your
specific baselines and drum patterns you could reference to get
it at supposed sound. You know.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
So it's very critical for us to get across. And
jab Jab is we, jab Job is all of us.
You know, jab Jab is not the devil. It's about
jab jabing the devil them. Thing is Eurocentric ideas.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
You see you see jab job, raster fire eye and
spiritual Baptists. I think these are some of the key elements,
the significant parts of the Africanism that still survives in
today's society, but still survive, not in the manner I
think it should be, but at least it's still a

(30:00):
wrong that the fighting spirit of the Maroons and the
part was this enfranchise the job of the spiritual Baptist.
They all cast negative connotations on them until you emancipate
yourself like a humancipate yourself a mental slavery. That's the

(30:20):
last thing I said that in a speech, and you
just don't understand these words are still true.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I think that's really important. Your explanation of what job
is when people don't understand something, I think they can
create a perception in their mind. And it's like ignorance,
right when you don't really understand something or understand the culture,
you can just create a thought about it based off

(30:48):
of the optics. And like you said, even though it's
a part of your culture as a kid, just looking
at you know what, the black paint and everything that
kind of frightened you a little bit, you know, like
the drums and everything. However, because it's your culture obviously,
and you know your uncles are involved in all that,
you got to know more about it. So that's why
I think these conversations are so important, because somebody could

(31:11):
see that and have had a thought about what jab
really is and now have a greater understanding. So you
mentioned Jambaalassie and kind of like where that started, So
let's talk about that. What did you feel was missing
in how Grenadian culture was being represented and how did
this platform emerge as your response to that?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Authenticity The authenticity was not the focal point.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Ah Okay, that was.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
A major Because Grenada has a niche market in the
overall kind of all industry market. You have your big
you have obviously the Barbados with a club over you
have all the rest of Grenada has that niche to it.
Grenada has in my own and the most christine of
the jus before a lot of the traditions from we

(32:06):
still beat the drums with the gold skins, the shells,
still the chains, verses versus what I like to call
it a dirty mass, a dirty party which people have
the idea that a Juvia party means wildness, hypersexuality, nakedness,
a matter alcohol, drinking and paints and power. And you

(32:29):
could make the most messed Juve's resistance and rivos. We
have to understand where the things come from. Juve is
the enslaved celebration. Juve is cambolet. Juves is freedom and
Juve morning. Nothing about social lines, nothing about rich, poor, educated, uneducated,

(32:53):
upper class, lower class. No. Once we're playing that job
is one unity, at least for five hours, for four whatever,
everybody barrier. That's a powerfulness of juven So we thought
that the the authenticity of the jab was not being
highlighted than we were and we were part of it,

(33:15):
like yo, this is normal life for us. And also
we thought that you know, this subgenre of soccer which
is called jab Jam music is spreading exponentially throughout the
region and and the international market. Yo, need we need.
It's important that it is a musk, that it has
to be documented correctly. And hey, my uncles are accredited

(33:39):
with structuralizing the musical patterns, like we have a we
have a part of playing this. So my background and
my family's background of music and business, I understood it
because at a younger age I DJ so I traveled
people of Jamaicans. Yeah, I realized Jamaica has this thing

(34:03):
down path. They understand the music business and they have
an identity. But that makes sense because Jamaica was one
of the maybe the biggest maroon grounds for enslaved in
the Caribbean. Jamaica, That's why Jamaicans are very Some people
call it, oh they aggressive, they arrogant. No, it's confidence. Yes,

(34:29):
if the maroons in them, is the maroons spirit in
them that they had a lot of maroons. If you
would have escaped captivity in the other islands, Jamaica and
other islands is one of the ways. Was one of
the places you would have gone to a maroon village.
I remember, you have two types of marionage. You have
pretty maroonage and you have grand marionage. Marionage pretty pretty

(34:53):
marinage was when you would have escaped captivity, but I
mean yours. I mean life after the plantation would have
been more difficult than it was on the plantation. So
remember remember Master would have you know, fed you, you know,
give your shelter, you know what I mean, you know
when you Yeah, it's rough. So some people return to

(35:16):
the plantation. Sometimes sometimes it didn't return to the plantation
because you want to, because you had to yea, or
sometimes you just was recaptured, you know what I mean. Yeah,
take go back. But there is there is a grand marinage.
Grand marinage is one you would have escaped the plantation
and never returned and had the ability to hook up

(35:36):
maroon communities. So Jamaica, how is a lot of grand
marinads and slaves from other islands as well. That's what maker.
So it was one specific time. I remember there was
this artist called Jesse Royal. He came to Grenada. Yeah
with us, Yeah, with us being you know, you know Djane.
We used to cut about the dup plates and then

(35:57):
sing a linked up with Jesse uryl manager I'll belongs
to me that Jesse Royle's manager is the son of
well no, no, no, the late Fattis Burrell, and Fattist
Burrell was black Alange's main producer.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
And then I realized, I like, yo, this reggaeting is
not by chance. This thing is a lineage. So speaking
to Karen Caring, tell me his his best friend. You know,
Jesse Royal and him are very good friends with with Daniel.
Who is Daniel? He said, oh, that is lalis son

(36:38):
And I said, oh, okay, and I start putting two
one two together, and I realized one sentence he told me,
and I realized where his head was at. He said, Yo,
we are regularity. Wow, so you guys actually recognize your

(36:58):
great You recognize the keepers at the feath. You recognize
the cultural barers here in our listeners, like yo, my
uncles and them, you know, the them dudes literally involved
in a subgenre. Structuralize it. So with that idea and
with there was an international kind of SOCCERMNA and mister

(37:23):
Killer from Greneada won okay, and that really pushed Grenada
on a more national sort of international market. And I said, yo,
this year we have to do our path to get
this thing right, So we launched them blastic Grenada, which
is to say and then complements and traditional job jab

(37:43):
with emphasis on the song, because we saw there was
a niche market for authentic job job and there was
about a mix. One one of the major myths that's
still circulating today is that to play a real jab
jab you have to play it all oil, which sometimes could.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Be turned off to it being inclusive.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
To all right because I face it all engine or
if not something not good?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, no, that's not good that because your skin is
your skin is your largest organ I don't know if
a lot of people know that.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
You know, the largest orgum. So we said, hey, but
that that's that was untrue because the truth is, when
you go back to the history of job, people play
jab around before carskame to Grenada. So we actually use
that as well to re introduce the use of chocoal. Gotcha,
like our ancestors play with chacoal and molasses, so well

(38:42):
introducee the chackoal. Obviously the safer for the skin, but
also safer for the environment because after we pleay the job,
we would go in our natural water sources. The beach
is the stream, the rivers, springs and wash up. But
the thing is when you put stuff like all enginel
in those.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh yes, it affects the environment. Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
The environment. Yeah. The idea was to really do our path,
to really showcase Grenada's job in an authentic form and
in a form that want to be inclusive to all
because the world is very, very interested in our I love.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
That, and I love the story of how it came
about and that connection between Jamaica and Grenada. I love that.
That's so fitting and you know, yes, no, but I
love that you said that because I feel like, as
a Jamaican that is a lot of the misconception about

(39:42):
who we are. And obviously, like with every culture, you're
going to have some people that do fit stereotypes and
some people that don't. But I would say for the
most part, it is a confidence right that we're just raised.
We're just brought up to believe we can do anything.
That's why when you go to Jamaica and you're famous,
people aren't really going to push up on you or

(40:02):
you know, beg you for autographs or anything like that,
because they're looking at you and saying, you can sing, man,
but I can sing better than you. That's just how
that's just how like we're brought up and I don't
It doesn't mean that it's always a good thing, you
know what I mean. But I feel that when you
explain it in that way, it makes a lot of sense.
You know, as a woman, we look to you know,

(40:24):
Nanny of the Maroons and what she was able to
do and things like that. So yeah, no, I think
that's really important to explain that connection.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yes, because you see, I live on an island, which
that is not the numb Yes we have confidence, Yes
we believe in selves, but not on that level. And
a lot has to do with the effects of colonialism
post emancipation.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Right, understand that, right.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
You have to understand that we need it. It's still
very very heavily uh eurocentric, and a lot of these policies,
a lot of his arms, a lot of I mean,
religion is maybe the major one.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Religion is a major, major, major contributor to control of
being slaves. You have to understand that. Okay, remember that.
So Gnia has a lot I think it's ninety plus catholicsm.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Oh really Catholic?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Okay, yeah, he's very small. So you have to understand
why why I was able to pick up the vibe
in Jamaica. Because I'm a history.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Of both, I can tell you yes.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah. And there was this one teacher who is now
actruly the head of the reparation's boarding green, which is
obviously taken for him. But he had opened up my
eyes to my Africanists and I never ever looked back.
I grew up and glad I see the letter is
is celebrating thirty years in the business. And I had

(42:05):
believed in me to my secondary school years. Only sis
and the black Africanist that.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
At eleven years old. Let me give us at eleven
years old, eleven ten years old, my uncle, the best
player from US International. He gave me about my limited
vision box sets at ten years old. Yeah, yeah, I
always wondered right ahead of this man, right.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
And all my other cousins was getting some ladders, puzzles.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
He gave me. I'm heus.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
He gave me songs of freedom, b third dis sets
with a whole it's like anything.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yes, he had a mission though there's a method to
his madness.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, I ask him, Okay, honestly, I said this year,
I say Yo, why did you do that? He looked
at me and he laughed. He said, that is where
the brainwashing began.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Really hilarious.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So I'm saying that type of music I listened to
so all the where, all the rasta far eye, the
jab jab and spiritual Baptist, they come from one energy.
Resistance against spirituality is not religion. Religion is not spirituality
and Christian thinking comedy religion with control, the com with Colorism,

(43:45):
the comerad anti Africanism. So you have to learn in
this time, and one of the main important things to
me to be able to be functional in dis society,
you have to be able to on loan a lot
of what was downloaded into you.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yes, that's so true. That's so true.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
That's why I was able to link and understand Carieman
the Man. Also, I also had Jamaican friends when I
went to college.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Okay, the.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Just a way of right, how they how they over
how they see things, how the englisient things.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
They had a confidence and this confidence came from just
believing themselves.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, I love that. I love that beautiful, beautiful story
and hilarious story by the way, So keeping in that
same realm of you know music and job. Your recent initiative,
the Jab House Project brings together artists like Lyrical Till Pre,

(44:54):
Skinny Banton, Jab King and others. And this isn't just
a musical compilation. It feels like a cultural manifesto. So
what was the intention behind this project and how does
it fit into the larger vision of preserving and elevating
even Jab culture.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Were you're solid right, you know manifesto? What we realize
that what I realized on the seeming Jamber last, he
realized that job is not Grenadian. Job is Afro Caribbean.
You will find fastest job job in any territory which
one's host and slave. Africans know how deep the character

(45:38):
of job job would have lasted has a lot to
do with these steps of colonialism after umancipation. Grenada's niche
market is the song. That's why it's critical for the
Grenadian song, the song that the Grenadian job job is.
Grenadas want to own. That's our vibe called all Arabian

(45:59):
and things. We have Jab music, we have a PM
and we have the Trinity drums. The project Travels project
started very simple. Zoke. You're going to find zuke in
a lot of the French speaking Caribbean islands, Wiki, Pizza Baseline,

(46:26):
Miguel some bigger Joseph, some Vibes production link. I said, yo,
I say, boy, let's let's merge the zooke and the job.
Let me give me them basedline. I'll give you some
backcom challenging problem and then we start to talk. Obviously

(46:47):
and listen, it is imperative that the Caribbean understand we
have one song. Yes, each island has a particular song,
but the song stems from one. So it was critical
for us know to line up with a fellow Caribbean
island and the half, the half of the half of
the rialom is is beautiful. You have the Grenadian jab

(47:11):
Jab Kings, Guinea Bans and Lava Mantle three the King
and you're putting them now, you're putting them together. No,
with lyrical Auto Trinidad Sidel Kim Ranadi out of Saint Lucia.
You have a representation at Caribbean Unity after Caribbean Vibes
on a project led by the Grenadian contingency with that

(47:33):
job with the same luc baselines for the entity like
jam Balassi Grenada and our next publishing house, I mean
production house like Vibes production, which gave your hits like
Navia bats in fact all them bad caustion riedom and
you read the two together. The overall energy was to
celebrate Caribbean vibes, Caribbean music, and show are united front.

(47:58):
So you were he was right? You say a cultural
manifesto and what.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Role would you say that storytelling plays in how you
carry this work forward, especially with younger generations.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Why you need the storytelling, You need to have people
can relate to. Yeah, And so the storytelling is critical
in the delivery. And the storytelling is just real life
that will invent the real I mean reinvent the wheel
when the wheel is already there, just to be promoted
and showcased in its right authentic form. And I think

(48:34):
we would have met our goal of showcasing indigenous traditional,
authentic culture to the world.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
So before our last segment this season, I've been allowing
my guests to ask me one question since you guys
don't get to ask me anything. So is there anything
that you'd like to ask me?

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah? Definitely, What did you hear about jab was your
first experience?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Honestly, my first introduction was ebony like her explaining it
to me, because I'm going to tell you something. I yes,
I thought it was I honestly just thought it was
a genre of music. I didn't know all the history
behind it and the you know, the oil or the
charcoal and the whole I didn't know any of that.
I just have seen it and heard it and seen

(49:24):
it referred to as a subset of like soca. And
like I said, she kind of briefly explained it to me,
because I was a little shamed. I was calling it
like basically music the whole time, and you've explained to
you know, job is, but I was thinking, like job
jab is the same thing. So I just really wasn't familiar.
And her just explaining that little bit of information really

(49:46):
intrigued me, and so I just started to look into
it more and then I found you guys, did she.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Tell you that her dad is one of the kings
of the genre.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
She did, She did, Yes, she did, So she's ingrained
in that.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, he was very influential in bridging the commercial gap
in ninety ninety nine Grenade and two thousand Traidad. Yeah,
with the release of All Woman Alone and that rhythm
and again that that Rhythm. The Woman Rhythm was built
by non de Federate normally Fedric now is the producer

(50:25):
of Rydom Mix. Who is R the Mix Rhyderm Mix
is the band which took the mantle from my uncle's
Mars International ran with the job jab subgenre from mid
nineties all of the way to like two thousands, and
then not Lead totally became a street producer and he
had all those job job hits. So the producer on

(50:49):
that Ridom found from her dad is a job job.
It's our like besides my uncle, let's just say my
uncle and them is the head, not is like the sons.
Not Lead a serious producer of a job what's the
world with? And the rest is history?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
WHOA I love that. I love that, And I think
you can always tell when somebody is just so authentically
a part of their culture. And I really got that
from speaking to her. You know, like you it's it's difficult, Yes,
it's difficult when you have a parent or a family
member that's so influential in a culture because people may

(51:34):
expect you to maybe do the same thing, or you know,
they might greet you under the guise of like that person.
But I love how she's created her own path, but
she still makes sure to talk about the culture and
enlighten people like me you know that don't know. So
it's kind of like she's carrying her dad's legacy but
in her own way, which I love and.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Exactly again, and you could just chase back to you
guys in Jamaica. That's why. That's why I was able
to say, oh, I understand this. It's better carrying the sun.
And you know, look at the Mali's marriages, sons and grandsons.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yes, and we had asked Junior on here as.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Well, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
So the levels of the culture and even in tas
with like with what's her name again, the sexy girl Trinidad, Trinidad.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Oh gosh, that does that doesn't really capture it.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Black man. Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
So you see the lineage today again, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, So it's all about the lineage and
legacy in the music. We're all connected, we are all.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
One from Yes, we are all connected. I love that
we're all one family. Yes, that just sounds like a
big warmhog.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Okay. So for our last segment, I'm going to ask
you six very quick, rapid fire questions, and I want
you to answer with the first thing that comes to mind,
So it could be one word or one sentence. You ready, right?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
All right?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
So the first question, what is a Grenadian dish that
you could eat every day? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I'm a shepherd, so my palate full out your full
of talent. I'm my carreer, my carreer, I am an
I am an agregative chef, whoa My My palate for
food is serious. So I don't want to give you
one jasper giving you how long the shoot is?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
No, Yes, if I have what you're going to say, okay.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
If I have something local and the Caribbean, the Caribbean.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Has a lot of similar foods, Yes, we do, for sure.
So what I would eat something that we eat normally
down here? If I contunities every.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Day, I would say curry, chicken and rice.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yo that. But I understand that's that's still greed as well.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Exactly Yeah. We all make curry differently too.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah, exactly true.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
I love curry.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
I love.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
People, right, yes, and it has to be white rice.
I know people have this habit with rice and peas,
but no, no.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
No, no, no, no, right right right right, and something
last slavery like some kind of truck me or something
or some kind of planting, you know, or something.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
But yeah, I love that, love that. Okay. Next question,
what is a book or maybe even a thinker who's
shaped how you've see in the world or how you
currently see the world.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
A thinker?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, like a philosopher or I don't know, somebody that
you just deem a thinker.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Okay, Ali, Gail, Oh who's that? You don't know? Who is?
Remember I told you in secondary school there was this
teacher that opened up my eyes to Africanism.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yes, is that him?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Okay, that's him? Okay, he's right now maybe the leading
force for history and Africanism throughout maybe not only Grenada,
but it's very significant in the in the Afro Caribbean asport.
He's the head of the Reparations Reparations Committee and he
also leads a lot of history delegations and very very

(55:38):
very very significant to the carry com Tent Step plan
for reparations.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Oh, very nice, Okay, full circle. I love that. Okay,
I think I know the answer to this question, but
I'm going to ask you anyway, what is a sound that.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Reminds you of home drums.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah, I figured you were going to say that just
because you talked about, you know, your childhood and hearing
the drums and stuff like that. So yeah, okay, makes sense,
all right. Next question for those planning their first trip
to Grenada or even persons that are returning, what are
a few places or experiences you'd recommend that they do

(56:21):
when they're there.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Socermnach or Superma in Grenada. If you could be Ingrenda
from the friday. I know it's expensive to fly a
new accommodation is not the cheapest. I get that people
love lives, but if you could be in Grenada from
the Friday, so socer Monach, I think, is where you're
going to get a lot of the divide the energy

(56:46):
going into the carnival Monday and Tuesday from the song.
But Carmonach is the place where you're going to listen
to about the ten top power socas, also a group
of socas and Crowner and someone will be come waking.
But just the whole energy within the within the venue
is it's I think, gets you ready for any electric cannival.

(57:09):
So so come on at one second of all, I
would say, Juve Morning, give the money to play authentic job.
I don't mean, you know, behind a truck drinking. I
mean come behind the drums. I guess behind the shelves.
Chance really have fun. Yeah you could. You could definitely
have drinks and have fun loosly have no problem. But
I mean the traditional aspect of its Juve Morning. I

(57:33):
would say these two things. And also we have if
you're more like a kind of you know, revel and whatnot,
you have the Monday night Mass, which I think is
also an awesome aspect of Greeny Spice Mask, which happens
on the Monday nights of of Kinni or from like
six seven in the evening in the prum Out. Different
bands have like it's more of a kind of it

(57:54):
was startled as a as a T shirt mass with
lights and whatnot. I mean, right now it's kind evolve
this obviously have the teachers, you have the lights and whatnot,
but you might get some extra you know, extra vibes
with it. These two things are definitely if you're into
the pretty Mass, which which I'm not into, I will like,
do you like I said, I'm very I'm very apple

(58:14):
centric and I know, I know the Pretty Mass is
more or less a spin off of the of the
European vibes with the colors and the setters and whatnot.
But that's fool. But for me from my aspects, so
premonas to the money and if you want to get
in someone the you know, the fun times with the
more you yeah, the more revelar vibes you can do.
The money night Mass.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Very nice, okay, cool, So you gave the people options.
I like that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Also I also go to our we have some nice
thermal springs as well, so.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I've heard about that. Yeah, No, that's if you're into nature, right,
I think that's definitely yeah. Okay, all right, So two more,
what is a song that you feel capture is the
true spirit of jab Jaz.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Skinny Banton Songs of Freedom that's on the job House Project.
And I'm not just saying this because I'm trying to
promote the rhythm.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
When I heard Skinny Banton's song, I was like Jesus Christ,
I was like, this is chab.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Jab one oh one in a modern day slash. You
have to research certain words because I know you don't
know what that would being and this is some job scruls.
Jimmy Banton Songs of Freedom. Listen to the lyrics of
that song.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
I just call it Skinny jab the Baptist or the
High Priests because he has that sort of vibe.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
The brother is very very very very very knowledgeable of
his roots and very knowledgeable of Africa, and knowledgeable and
understands the importance and the seriousness of building across music.
That song about jab Jab Songs of Freedom and the

(01:00:06):
Jabbo's rhythm. I think Skinny kneeled it on ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Mmm, I'll have to listen to that. That sounds amazing. Sure, nice, nice, okay.
And the last question looking ahead, what legacy do you
hope Jambalassi and you as its steward leave not just
for Grenada but for the wider Caribbean cultural landscape.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Authenticity?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Mmm, that's key.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
They kept it real to the culture. That is massive
for us because because that's how we see it as. Yeah, yeah,
that makes sense to try to put in the soul
in Mmm.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Very true. No, you're right, that's that's really true. And
you know, authenticity, I think is just important in every
aspect of your life, right, showing up as who you
are and understanding who you are. I think a lot
of issues that a lot of people have or develop
are because they don't understand who they are. And like

(01:01:12):
you said, maybe it takes on learning some things. Maybe
it takes you know, conversations like this and learning about
other cultures and then making it want you to look
into your own. I just think understanding who you are
and being authentic really helps you be the best person
you can be while you're here on this earth. So yeah,
I think that's very important.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
It is it is a. Remember, it's especially when it
comes to the africanis that's that's A. And I want
to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Who the world is word that's that's that's that's A.
That's a tougher battle for us because a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
What's done to read off, to read off all the
books and the documentation. We have very limited documentations, so
it's rough to get a really clear picture of yourself. Yeah, yeah,
you really you really need to search.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
You will find, you know, but you will need to
do some searching.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
And then we think about twenty years, it's maybe from
the change you're going to pass it on. So maybe
in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty to thirty years, you're going
to have a whole new bread of African people. But
people have Afro descent like my kids, their kids and whatnot.
We have more sonar.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Using our cells, you know, So we have we are
living in a time right now which is crucial for
the next generation. We have to kind of push it
twelve but have more authenticity, make them understand that, hey,
that you don't have to bow to white supremacy in
terms of long hair, straet nose and them saying, no,

(01:02:45):
we are batish for with our broad noses, our big lips,
our curse here that what they say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
But we are we are competing ourselves to an.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Image that is not us, right right, No, that's ray.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
That's why my stuff like bleaching and extensions and love
and thing is a bullion dollar industry industry.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah, that's very true. That's very true. So yeah, if
you get anything out of this episode, it is to
be your authentic self. I one hundred percent agree with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
That beautiful authentic self.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yes, yes, well, Ian, This concludes the episode, but I
want to thank you again for coming to talk the
things with me, and before we go, I just like
to say that I love how your work honors the
past while making space for a deeper, more intentional future.
And you and Jamblastic Grenada are doing more than preserving tradition.

(01:03:37):
To me, you're reminding us that culture is a living,
breathing force that deserves care, protection and reverence. And through
Jamblastic Grenada, you're illustrating how powerful it is to know
where you come from and to walk into the world
with that knowledge as your compass.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Thank you very much, Thank you very very much, appreciate it.
And again, your platforms are right, you know, paramounts for
not only Jamba Lassie, but also other cultural activists, kind
of lovers, cultural lovers, overall networking. It is imperative to
have more podcasts like yours, so things are key easier rich, yes,

(01:04:23):
and you know have to literally try to script through
the rebels. So please don't stop. Please have more, more
and more interesting people in somebody that I in my pocket.
I went up and I checked out your your podcast
and like lots of interesting topics. So I learned a
lot already just by the few episodes. You know what
I'm saying, Give me your work and whenever you're ready,

(01:04:46):
we're here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate that. And
before we go, is there anything that you'd like to
share with our listeners, anything you guys have coming up
or anything like that. Well, they can follow you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Stuff like that. You can check us out social media.
Instagram is our main platform. It's at Jamblasty Grenada okay
x coming on on Twitter, it's a Jambalass g n B.
Also on YouTube Jambalassi Grenada. Also on Facebook jamb Last Grenada.
And we also launched first websites about three months ago.

(01:05:21):
It could check it out www dot Jambalastigrenada dot com.
You get anything from You could order your helmets, you
could audo your chackal, you could get jerseys, you can
don't hold up playing music, you can learn about the job,
you could see what's coming up, and it's just all
all interactive jab jab site for you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
It's Jambalas g A M B A L s A
E perfect perfect And where can they hear the Jambalass
or the jam jab House project. Yeah, the jab.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Projects including the jab House projects. It's not all social media.
Check it out all dsdh okay from Apple Music to
Spotify to this your Amazon title, the wops which which
have a platform.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Okay, so you guys are everywhere. Love that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Jambala is also a probational so it's critical for us
on a musical level to also have the standard of
music in Grenada standardized internationally. So once an actist one
mbal stops, I reading it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Imagines part of the world you'ring wants you to release.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
We make a worldwide release, to make an island release,
to make a world riding.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Got you okay, very nice. I love that