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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Let's talk midlife Crisis. I'm Ashley and I'm Tracy.
We're your go to hosts for all things midlife, menopause,
and moments of pure Mayhem.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And today we have Terry with us from the House
of Rose Thor.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Welcome, Terry.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
I'm excited to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Tell us a little bit about yourself and your journey
becoming the founder of the House of Rose.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Absolutely so. I'm about to turn forty nine this year.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
I'm forty eight and a half and the journey really
began when I was thirty seven, so about twelve years ago,
I would say. I At that time, I was the
founder of a different company, and that was a marketing
agency and advertising and technology agency.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
And it had grown to have lots of clients, lots of.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Work, eighteen hour days, lots of travel.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I had my first.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Kid at thirty my second kid at thirty five, and
by the time I was thirty seven, I was still
wearing maternity clothes and that was eighty pounds overweight, very overworked,
very overwhelmed, very overstressed, and eventually, you know, being over
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that overweight, I started developing issues right, so some of
the issues were pre diabetes.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I ended up in the hospital.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Twice because I thought I was having heart attacks, but
they were eventually diagnosed as anxiety attacks.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I was a central cardiologists.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I was having very insists, just randomly, like nineteen of
them out of nowhere. I don't even know what caused that,
but all kinds of things were going haywire. And what
I didn't know at the time, and what I did
not expect, is that I was entering perimenopause. And that
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was a real shock to me because I didn't even
realize that.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I think about that.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I did not realize I was in perimenopause until I
was in menopause.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Wow, only right.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
And so my perimenopause from where I can trace it back,
started at thirty seven and it was over by forty two.
So I lost my period completely at the age of
forty two. I've been completely menopausal for the last six years. Yes,
And that's when that's when it dawned on me that
that was a period of being in perimenopause, because it's
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not talked about that it could happen that early, and
as a matter of fact, the more research I do
and the more stories I hear, and the more people
I talk to, the more common it is that it
starts in our mid thirties, really the symptoms, and so
generally that's where it all began. That's the genesis of
my story what ended up happening. After I realized that
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my lifestyle was not conducive to my health, I had
to take a step back from my agency and I
started working out lifting weights. I educated myself on macro nutrition,
how to structure my meals, how much routein to eat,
how many carbs went to eat carbs, how to time meals.
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I learned about sleep recovery. I learned about all kinds
of modalities.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Right.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I went to do cardio, How much cardio, how many steps,
et cetera, et cetera. I hired a coach, and that
coach actually discovered that my problem was not necessarily biological
that I was overweight.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I was suffering from a neating disorder. So imagine that
at the AA each of forties, when.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I hired a coach, Wow, I found out I had
an eating disorder of my entire life.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So that was another very shock.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Right, So, like all these things just piled up, one
on top of the other.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
The perfect storm, right, And so that's when I really
started digging into my mindset, my emotional state, understanding that
my mindset and my emotional.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Kind of capacity was influencing.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
My habits and my lifestyle. So I had to do.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
A whole like retake right, full midlife turnaround, and eventually
I got out of it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
I thankfully got my act together.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
And one day I was setting a girl trip and
we had such a great time. Somebody said you should
do this all the time. And that's how the House
a Rose became a thing where it's a retreats company,
it's also a coaching company that helps women in midlife
to kind of go through the same process that I
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did without.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Without all of the confusion.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
I mean that's a complete lifestyle change. How long did
it take you to finally get to a place where
you felt comfortable with yourself and your health?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
So it's really interesting, right, So a lot of people
assume that the physical part of let's say health takes a.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Really long time. Well that wasn't my experience.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
My body responded instantly, Wow, as soon as as I
put the right process, strategy, and plan together.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And as soon as I started taking care.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Of myself in a way that made sense, my body
instantly responded.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So and I was really in shock that that.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Was happening because I was eating more food than I
had ever eaten in my whole life. I was full
all the time, and I couldn't trust the process initially
that this is gonna work because we're conditioned to starve
ourselves to do endless amounts of cardio and eventually depleted
our entire metallism and all of our systems. Really, so
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it was a complete opposite approach, right, And it instant
happened instantly. It was under a year that I was
able to drop a significant amount of weight. Now the
mindset was a completely different thing, right, So I would
drop the weight, but it would start to sneak back
in because I was not addressing the root cause of
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the problem, which was the emotional state.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Right. Wow, that is crazy, It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so the House of Rose is located actually in Tennessee,
is that correct?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
In the Smoky Mountains.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Yes, it's on top of a mountain on a fifty
acre property.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's in the Cherokee National Forest.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
And What we do here is mostly uh yoga, hiking
in nature, connecting with each other, sharing stories, exchanging experiences.
We go through some of the nutritional components of you know,
how to space your meals, how much of what to eat,
especially in midlife. We go through strength training for beginners
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so that when women go home, they're more comfortable and
have more confidence going to the gym or even doing
their own workout program at home.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Right, because a lot of.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Us, you know, in this stage of life are could
be potentially intimidated to lift heavy weights right, and heavy
as a relative term once again, heavy for you, not
or some random person you're seeing at the gym, but
challenging enough for you personally. So a lot of us
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have grown up thinking that lifting weights is gonna make
me bulky, I'm gonna look like a man, you know,
I'm gonna hurt myself for all of these stories that
we tell ourselves. And I hear this all the time,
but yeah, we spend some time diffusing those things.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, yeah, it looks amazing. I was checking out the
website and you actually have a full spa there as well.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Correct, Yeah, it's not really a full spot. It's a
massage therapist comes maybe one day or two days out
of the retreat.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
And she has a dedicated space for that. But we
do mostly.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Body massages and facial massages. They're not esthetician type facial
so they're just facial massages.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Got it, I got it, but very relaxing. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Facial massages are so amazing. Yes, I have chronic allergies.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
I often have inflamed sinuses, and I clenched my jaw
in my sleep, so my jaw is always really tight.
And I had a facial massage for the first time.
It's life changing. It is so amazing. Just as good
as a body.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Massage, if not better.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Right, Oh, absolutely, And the head massage, scaled massage, all.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Of these things. Yes, yeah, I love them too.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And you know the sense of connection that you're building
amongst women. What are the typical size of groups that
you do?
Speaker 6 (09:36):
So currently the maximum amount of women that we can
do we can have as guests at any retreat is
ten okay, oh wow, as it's not in Boo myself.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yes, and so they're very small groups.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
What that does is it bosters deeper connections.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
People get to know each other a lot better.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
We have group and shared experiences. So what ends up
happening for almost the majority of all of the retreats
is women continue to keep in touch with each other
through our group chats and continue to share their lives
beyond the retreat right still go what kind of food
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they're eating, what kind of recipes they're making, what kind
of workouts. You know, they pose pictures of themselves in
the gym, so it's kind of like a kickstart or
maybe a point of inspiration to go home and bring.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That back to your family, to.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Your partners, to your parents, your children. And you know,
the more educated and the more familiar we are with
some of these concepts, the better our entire families lives
are going to be because we bring that home and
we show what the benefits are, and we know a
lot more because we have an example, right, and we
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see that it is possible.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
We have a belief that hey, if.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
This check over here can do it right now, eighty
pounds overweight, I can drop twenty pounds, like come on,
you know, and so its fosters that type of inspiration.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So I personally love it.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah, and I would imagine that some of the connections
made on these retreats end up being long term or
lifelong connections. You know, You're it's nice to Tracy and
I often talk about how lucky we are to have
a group of friends that are we're all in different
stages of the.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Menopause, right, life.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah, and it's really nice to have that we can
all talk about it. It's relatable, and I imagine that
those connections that these women are making are also very.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Helpful and like you said, motivating, it's life changing.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
So I'll share something with you, guys.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
So when I started my journey, it was in twenty
nineteen when I started weightlifting and I hired a coach
and I joined a group just like what I'm offering
right now, and it.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Was the most life changing thing ever. We call ourselves
the Girl Gang.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So if girls, if you are listening to this podcast,
shout out to the Girl Gang because.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It is life changing, right.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And So we go through life now since that time,
hand in hand. We've known each other all these years.
We go on trips together, we have group chats together.
We use this app called Marco Polo, and we send
messages back and forth to each other, and it's really
really I cannot recommend it enough for anybody that's listening
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to start something, even if it's scary and it's risky,
even if you feel all out of sorts or you
have imposters syndrome or whatever it is, but try to
get connected to other people are going through the same
thing or maybe have the same hobby or activity, and
really push yourself out there, try to make friends because
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it's so worth it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It is.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
I mean, I think community is crucial for anybody in
any time in their life, and a lot of people
don't realize that until they actually experience.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It, right.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, and midlife can be the perfect time to start,
you know something, building something.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
New and beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So I think it's just about having the courage to
get out there and do it right.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It's a lot different than when you're you know, in
your twenties.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
And out socializing.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
Yeah, it's definitely more of a you know, put yourself
out there like, Okay, I can do this, and you
can anybody can?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
You just gonna try it?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, And I know that your retreats often sell out
in advance, because you have several now that are already
sold out.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Correct, there's only one that's still open for this year.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
It's August sixth. I think it has two spots open.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
All the other ones are completely completely booked out. And
they're small, right, so they're not really large amounts of
numbers of people. They're very small. They're very intimate. We
share a lot of things, and so I kind of
like it that way. I don't really personally think I
could do more than fifteen. I think that might be
my max because I feel like I wouldn't be able
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to get to know the women as well as I do.
I wouldn't be able to have as many meaningful conversations
with everyone if the groups were too large.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And you know, I get so much out of these.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Retreats personally, and people ask me all the time, you know,
how can you do this so many times? Like how
can you have so many retreats and do this all
the time?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Aren't you tired? Aren't you drained?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
And it's it's very interesting because when the retreat is over,
I have withdrawal.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I feel sad, and then I feel elated. I feel
so high on.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
What we were able to do and the connections that
I formed and the possibilities that are now open. And
you know, we start making plans for other trips that
are completely different from the retreats adventuremers that we're planning.
Like we're talking about visiting the Havasupe Waterfalls, which is
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you need apartment.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Together that's in our bay.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
And so it's it's amazing, right because you have so
many things to look forward to, and I think that
that makes us happy, right.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Is there a process in putting these groups together or
is it just first come, first serve? Do you try
to group women together that might have similar interests or backgrounds.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
No, it's just first comfort serve.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Wow. Verb.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
And the interesting part is it's so interesting. It's magical. Okay,
every group is so unique, but they all have something
really interesting and common. Like there was one group where
they had everyone had read the same books, multiple books,
everyone had them. I'm like, how does that happen? And
like things like that where it just happens naturally.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
It's it's just the way the universe.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
It's the universe bringing people together that that should be together.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And you also offer a lot of products on your
website as well. That's the House of Rose dot com
and that link will be in our show notes for
all of our listeners out there. But do you want
to tell us a little bit about some of the
products that you offer and you also offer meal packages.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Is that outside of the retreat.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, so the products are there for my existing clients generally, right,
So somebody is looking for clients that I coach on
a regular basis, right, So if somebody is looking for
a really good protein powder, collagen or creating, those are
the three supplements I recommend to most women because we
don't really need any other supplements unless our blood work
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shows that we do. And that's a healthcare provider type
of conversation. But generally, collagen creating and protein powder are
the things that I have on there that are made
by a very reputable neutraceutical grade company. And then the
other products are things that we use at the retreats.
And still, the lymphatic brushes are really great. I love those,
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and we've done workshops at the retreats. So a lot
of times women want to find a place to purchase
them as a gift, but I actually they are part
of sometimes the welcome packages, but sometimes we don't want
to get extras, so that's what that is. And you know,
lymphatic brushing is great, especially for your face, and we
had one of the retreats.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
We were working.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
On one side of our face and then we looked
at each other and we're like, read a minute, one
side of your face looks so different than the other side.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, it's that noticeable.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yes, okay, I need to try that.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing. And so where what is
your dream for the House of Rose for the next
five years? Where would you like to see it in
five years from now? Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Wow, and you know that's a great question. I haven't
thought about that.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Oh, you're on the thought.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I would love for the House of Rose to continue
to inspire, to bring.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
A place or to provide a place of peace for
women where they feel loved, they feel they can care of,
they feel like they can be themselves, they can go
to make friends and go home and take things.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Back to their families.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
I would love to be able to provide more information
on whatever new modalities come out there. Right, So recently
we added red light therapy, We're going to add infrared sana,
We're going to add possibly a cold clungch and.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Some other types of modalities.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
So yeah, I mean that that's generally I don't have
a big ambition about it. I kind of like it
really intimate and private and small.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right, right, And what does it mean to create a
soulful home to you?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Just the energy? Yeah, just the energy.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You know, a place where you don't feel drained?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Is I feel very important because nowadays, right, there's no
way we can go where our attention is non demanded.
You know, news, politics, social media, nonsense, all these things
we have to do all the time. So for me,
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a soulful home is somewhere you can truly relax and.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Restore and get your energy back.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Sanctuary.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, it's a sanctuary. Ah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah. Do you have any favorite rituals or routines that
bring balance to your day to day.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Working out? Right?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
So, strength training that is a ritual to me, hands down.
I don't have any other rituals other than my coffee, movement, movement, meditation,
and that movement can be anything, right, So it could
be training, weightlifting, specifically resistance training with progressive overload. It
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could be yoga, It could be ploates. It could be
a rotation of these three modalities. I highly recommend a
really good rotation. It could be steps, It could be cardio.
It could be walking with your dog, playing with your dog.
Just getting a nervous system rebalanced on a daily basis
is where I would.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Kind of be a track. That's what attracts me.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Essentially, right, right. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I love the whole concept and the retreats. And I've
actually never been to the Smoky Mountains. I would love
to go. What would the temperature be like in August
in the Smoky Mountains? Is it wonderful seventy degrees and
breezy or it most likely in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Is right?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
It's warm? Okay. I wasn't expecting that. I don't know why.
I thought it would be a little bit cooler.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
I think it's great that you do such small groups
because a lot of retreats, you know, there's a lot
of different kinds for different reasons, and I would say
most of them are pretty decent sized groups.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You know, they have them all over the world, and
like I said, for different reasons.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
It could be you know, for a yoga retreat or
you know, mental health or anything, and I do it
seems like a lot of more pretty big groups.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
So the fact that you're doing such small groups to me.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Is just amazing because, like you said, you get to
work a little more one on one with everybody than
you would if you have so many people, and you
don't see that very often either.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I think that's really cool. I love what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Right, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
So I've been to really large retreats, and my personal
feeling is that if you go with a really large groups,
sometimes you end up feeling more alone and.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
In such a large group because you just don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
How to kind of connect with everyone on a deeper level.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
And you're too because there's so many people to distract everyone,
you know, right exactly?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, Yes, And you do one on one coaching? Would
that be something that you do online? So our listeners,
no matter where they live throughout the country or even internationally,
would be able to take advantage of your coaching opportunities.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Yes. So I do one on one coaching. It's on
a monthly basis.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
It includes nutritional consulting, nutritional coaching. Actually, I call myself
a helicopter coach because I like to see everything that
you're eating. There's a strength training component to that, right,
So there's daily communication back and forth between myself and
each of the ladies that I'm working with, and it
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is online. There's an app for both of these things.
So the food tracking and the weightlifting, we have calls
twice a week, sorry, twice a month. As a group,
we have one on one calls, and so the results
are incredible for really what women are able to achieve
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naturally right, so organically, without using any other assistance from
any other places, meaning pharmaceuticals or anything like that. And
it is possible, and I see it every day. I'm
a witness to what we are capable of doing when
we are guided in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
If you wanted to do an individual session with you,
that's an opportunity, or if you wanted to become a
part of a group because maybe you feel more comfortable
being a part of a group, both of those options
are available correct.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Exactly, exactly, And I also do just one on one nutrition.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That's great nutrition.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, that's so important. That's so important, especially in mid life.
I think that's when you really start focusing on it,
not only because of the changes that your body's going through,
but maybe because you realize that you had to always
put that as a priority when you were younger, but
it's something that you can change now.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Well, yeah, I mean, you're our priorities change so much
by the time we hit midlife, and I think nutrition
and health is huge, especially I don't for me personally,
and we've talked about this. You start to kind of
look at the future differently, and you know, it's like,
I want to be here.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I want to see my grand.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Babies yea, and watch them grow and be a part
of their lives. And so you start thinking, Okay, if
I keep doing these things I've been doing since my twenties,
it's going to catch up to me at some point.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Plus, I think you feel better when you eat better, right,
because it is all about you are what you eat.
I think that there's sometimes there's old sayings for a reason, right,
So you are what you eat. And I think if
you focus on less processed foods, which is something that
I've been trying to focus on lately overall, and it
just makes you feel better at the end of the day.
(26:15):
So yeah, absolutely, Well, we really appreciate you being with
us today, Terry. Again, the House off Ros dot com
and the link to that website will be in our
show notes and we'll go ahead and link to all
of our social media as well. But we really appreciate
you being with us today.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Thank you, ladies for having me. I really appreciate your time.
You guys are doing great work. Keep spreading the word
that midlife is just the starting point.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Thank you, thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Terry Well, that wraps it up for today. Thanks for
joining us on Let's Talk Midlife Crisis. We hope you
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Speaker 2 (26:58):
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