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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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above and beyond service. My really quick coaching knowledge nugget
of the week is kind of going in line with
when I bring my guests in. But you know, I
was thinking about this the other day. However, whether we
realize it or not, we're hanging something new on the
wall of our life's gallery. Every action, everywhere, every choice,
it's a brushstroke. Some are bold and confident, others may
be a little messy or unfinished, but it's all part
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of the piece we're creating. Most people spend their lives
walking through someone else's gallery, admiring what others have built, comparing, criticizing,
scrolling through their highlight reels, but champions the people who
level up. They're too busy creating their own. Here's the thing.
You can't hang excuses and expect applause. You can't paint
half hearted effort and expect masterpiece results. The world doesn't
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celebrate almost finished. It celebrates those who show up with discipline, presence,
and purpose every single day and keep adding to the
canvas even when no one's watching. Your life is the gallery.
The question is when people walk through it, what do
they feel. Do they see courage, consistency and growth or
chaos and convenience? Every sunrise is a blank wall. What
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you hang there today, that's your legacy. So stop standing
in the museum of your past, pick up the brush,
get intentional, and start painting something worth remembering, And talk
about painting something they can worth remembering.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Our guest here, and I want to welcome you. Know
we're bringing you.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
A conversational, next level visionary whose roots run deep in
the world of performance culture and creative evolution. I'm going
to introduce you here to Miss Cassandra Voyages, the force
steering two of America's most ambitious contemporary art platforms, the
La Art Show and also locally hear the Art Palm Beach.
After sixteen years of anchoring ELA's art world, she stepped
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into the producer director role in twenty twenty one has
since pushed the fare into new territory. By twenty twenty two,
she broaden the scope, acquiring and reinventing Art Palm Beach
into a bold, bicoastal undertaking that unites artists, collectors, and
galleries from around the globe. She's all about immersive territorial narratives,
bold experiences and open dialogue and art. But artistry isn't
just in her role, It's in her blood. Her father
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is the celebrated Greek actor Jorgo Viajas, fame for her
roles and Jesus of Nazareth, Frantic Swept Away and Little
Drummer Girl with the late Great Diane Keaton growing up
with a legacy of storytelling, drama, and emotional connection. Cassandra
brings that same intensity to the visual realm, building art
spaces that I don't just display works but tell stories,
spark reactions and reshape future. So get ready and I'm
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going to bring on my new good friend here. And
thank you, miss Kirsten Miller from introducing us, but thank
you so much for coming on, miss Cassandra.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well thank you for having me. Yes, what an impressive introduction.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah. I did a little vetting out on you. Just
sure we're good to go, and we impress you from
the jump right.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yes, totally, totally, And I actually really liked what you
said about don't stand still, you know, keep creating, finish
what you start. It's so important, absolutely, and that's what
art is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, everybody. A lot of people do that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Unfortunately, like clients that they won't take action. They'll think
analysi's paralysis and they don't take action. Right, So I
see that a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, you have to take action, and actually it's okay
if you screw up along the way, right, it's not
a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I love that, and just do it, yes, fail forward,
just do it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Have to say right, So you know, as is there
kind of any creative habit you have, like kind of
every morning that helps you get into that orradar mold,
that kind of artsy mold, because again I was joking
off Mike that I can't draw stick finger, but I
will love artwork, like I will go through and I
will be there all day you immersed in it, which
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I know you do immersive experiences, So like, is there
any kind of habit that you do? Not?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Really? Not really, I am the one of those people
like you said that I'll get up and I'll be
right on it, Like I'll be thinking what do I
want to do? Where do I want to go? I
do love to travel and and and that inspires me.
And they travel all the time all over and when
I go to these places, I'm like my eyes pop
up and I'm like, whooh, this would be amazing. How
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can we bring this? How can we show this? What
could we create?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What kind of experience? Even somebody like you said, like yourself,
you don't you know, you're not how to you don't
know how to draw? Right, Yeah, But that's not the point.
The point is like what can I bring that you're
going to walk through and be like, ooh right, this
is kind of cool and this puts me in a
different place even for that split bab that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's it, your father exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That which, by the way, I need to bring up
Miss Nadia Cassini, your late mother that you lost six
months again.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I'm sorry, beautiful lady, rubbed off on you.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Speaking of that growing up, you know, was there a
moment like watching your parents kind of perform, kind of
telling stories that made you think, you know, I want
to build art worlds. I kind of because I know
you have some acting credits as well too, and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So, but was there any of their kind of influence
on you.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
It's it's interesting when both your parents are in that world.
You grew up very differently. So I was always on
a set. I was always on a concert floor, sleeping
here or there. So, and everybody in our house was
a writer, director, photographer or something, you know, something in
the entertainment or creative world. So I was just I mean,
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I didn't really search for something different. I was born
in it. And that's where the acting started with my parents.
I mean, I was acting as a kid, and it's
really interesting about the art world. It started in my
position and actually getting so involved. I mean, I loved
art because I'm half great cap Italian, so I grew
up with the classics, and all I did was, you know,
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look at beautiful things in the art world. But I
actually was invited to the opening night of the La
Art Show, okay, and that's how my passion started. I
went to the opening night. This was in like two
thousand and four, okay, so a week ago, yeah, a
long time ago. Yeah, And I walked through the you know,
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I did the opening night, and then I walked and
saw the galleries and saw the art and talked to
people and spoke to the director at the time, and
I was like, oh my god, this is so interesting.
And I think I bring something different to the table
because I look at it and like like a movie
as well. So you get to create, You get to
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bring some together, so the way you would see a movie,
and you bring the actors and the directors and and
you put it all together and then somebody like yourself
sits in and enjoys it. I get to put all
that together in the art world. So I get to
bring the galleries, the museums, the immersive experiences, everything that
you're gonna experience as an attendee at the show. I
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get to put together and create and I absolutely love that.
Like I'll go in and the convention center will be
completely empty, and after six months of like thinking and
traveling and doing all of what I said, it all
comes to life for four or five days and then
it all just then it goes Like two.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Shows you're working.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Do you start with kind of like a whiteboard, kind
of like just throwing this, like maybe move a magnet here,
you know what I'm saying to say, this this immersive
experience to move into this and it flows.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That kind of flows.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, so you have like the like the convention center,
it's just empty space. So usually in other situations in
trade shows or whatever, things are kind of static and
they're always the same. My idea is, like you start
from scratch every year, So what else can I bring
to the table? How can your experience be when you
walk in? Like what would you want to see? What
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do you want to see over here? How do you
feel here? Where do you sit? What gallery is there?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
So?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, so I start blank and I start plopping all
the galleries which I've met around the world, and what
different ideas they can bring to the table. And then
diverse art. Palm Beach, which is my museum and nonprofit
component of the show, with my curator, will sit down
and we'll say so you never bring the same museums
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or the same exhibits again, so it's an opportunity to
see something you haven't seen else right before, so you're
going to see it for the first time. So that's
the creative process. So what can we bring this coming
January to Palm Beach that you didn't see last year?
Last January you didn't see in Miami, that you didn't
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see New York, you didn't see in London. You're only
going to see it in Palm Beach. How cool is that?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
And a lot of it we've talked about a little
bit off Mike was the diversive or immersive experience, right,
And so is there people that kind of come to
you and pitch you on this is my artwork and
that will it fit within your story? Like how does
that like how does that kind of play out?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
So the galleries obviously apply for the show and they
put together their proposal of artists or what they would
like to bring, and you know, we have a committee,
we look through it all of that. When it comes
to the museums though, in those installations and immersive experiences,
those my curator thinks of a subject that is important
in that particular time of year. Oh and so we've
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done climate change, we've done water components, we've done cleaning
up cities, you know, whatever is important in that.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So you might add that theme into the correct Okay,
so also geographically as well, yeah, California.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Completely, okay, completely, okay. So those are the components that
you integrate that make them different.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So for example, we have a museum, it's a textile
museum from Miami that's going to come this year.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
They basically do textiles, They do all kinds of textiles
in the museum. How does the curatorial component comes in
is Okay, we want something that has to do with climate,
with the forests, with something like that. So the textile
museum puts together a proposal. So the textiles are going
to be hanging, They're going to represent trees. They're very
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detailedly made as trees. Sure, you have lighting that goes
through the textiles. So when you're The immersive component is
you're walking through these textiles that are trees, and then
you have projectors on the walls showing the forests. So
that's the creative process.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Okay, it's not just putting so many different artists working
together to make this correct. It's not just saying hey,
there's like a van Go guy or.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, okay, that's what the galleries bring. The galleries bring
the fine art, the modern art, the Picasso. The experience,
the immersive experiences is where you're creating a story. Another
component is you have an artist coming from South America.
She's very known. She does various pionales. She's been in
the Venice, Pianalee. Her whole passion is how you know,
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to clean up a city, to help with the water,
to help with and she creates immersive experiences around that.
So in this case, this artist is going to come
to Palm Beach earlier. I'm going to find a place
a water element will involve the community to take pictures.
Sure as the cleanup is happening or whatever they decide
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to do there, you take pictures. Then those pictures are
turned around, they're created and put in the show with
lightingsed in and you're walking through all the pictures. So
those are the cool things that I really enjoy. And
it's hard to bring to markets that are not so
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big in the art worlds like you know, we know Chicago, Miami,
New York, London, Paris. My focus, and this is going
to be our fourth year, is how can we bring
the cutting edge or the immersive components, or the museums
or the galleries that have never been here to bring
that to Palm Beach Because Palm Beach is beautiful. You
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actually have the opportunity to have a conversation. The convention
center is very nice. It's not like in l A
like downtown. You know, it's it's a it's a it's
a really.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Exactly a lot of money, yes.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yes, yes, that is a very important factor. That is
true because you do what I also sell the art.
So you need some people with a lot of body
to come through. But let's not just do that. Let's
bring in some educational components like we also have a
nonprofit called Athletes for Life and in LA for several years.
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You know, Greg Bell used to be a football player.
So Greg came to me and brought this to LA
because he wanted to support the kids from Compton, you know,
to come enjoy an art show, see something.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
They've never seen, the youth involved.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Get the youth involved. He provides them lunch and food
and I talked to them. So we wanted to bring
that here in pump Beach and we did that last
year and he's coming back again this year with I
think a couple of schools, maybe from Miami or around
I'm not sure, but yeah. So I always want to
balance Our shows can be for profit and galleries and selling,
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which is important for the galleries absolutely, but as a
producer director in this world, how can I balance that
out when it's not just profit but it's also a
gift back.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I love that and squat that.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What I'm not here is just balance, but the harmony
that she puts together around these shows. And when we
get back from break, we want to kind of dig
into a little bit about Cassandra herself, how she puts
this harmonic hustle together and Steve, what take it away?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Thanks Scott.
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Speaker 3 (16:14):
Hey, Steve, thank you so much for the update, and
blessed that you are my sponsor, my friend. We're back
with my good friend here, Cassandra Voyages. And so you
know some galleries and artists that you know. I did
do some background checks on you and they told me
that you appreciate that you look for underrepresented voices. So
what drives you This all kind of falls under that
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harmonic thing which you say balance. I think it's more
harmony to be honest with you, because balance is ten
pounds ten pounds at zero, like this has got to
be harmonic, right, which goes along with my book that's
coming out Harmonic Kustle coming.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Out in February. Squad out there. But anyways, no, we'll
get back to you.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
That was smart. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
But what drives you to kind of keep pushing for
inclusion even when it's easier to kind of repeat what's safe.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I find repeating and being safe is boring, I really do.
That's that's what gets me going. That's what makes me
go for like twelve hours fifteen hours a day. It
excites me, and I always look at it also through
my eyes, and because I do travel a lot, like
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we said, and I do go to many shows, and
I go to many galleries, and when something is repetitive
and it's the same, you kind of glaze. You'll like
walk in and oh you're excited, and then you're glazed
and you're like, okay, I'm doing this, Okay about.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Seeing the same movie, yeah, but just a different movie.
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
So yeah, So I'm just so I don't like that.
So it is more work. But you're allowing for voices
that haven't been heard before. You're bringing components that you
wouldn't even expect to see, so you you could be surprised.
And that's the whole thing. I mean, the whole thing
is your take a couple of hours off your day
or whatever it is. You're coming to an art show.
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You want to click out. You want to be walking
through and be like, ooh, you know I haven't seen
this or what am I this? Or who's this? Or
why they come here? Where'd they come from? And that's everything.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Do you market it as kind of like an experience
like you've never seen because you have got to be
really empathetic looking through Like even my eyes, it's not artsy,
but what I would be turned on to going and seeing?
Do you market it as being really unique?
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I try to. I tell people, you know, even if
you don't have like that art world experience, even if
you've never been to an art show or you think, no,
I can't go and I don't know this stuff, you know,
what am I going to look at? What am I
going to say?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Pick up? Go even if you don't know anything about it, right,
and just just go open hearted and experience it and
you might not like something that I might like, right,
And that's the goal. So I think that's important for me.
And when I put my director cap. There's a lot
of directors out there in the art world that want
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to put their stamp on what they're shown.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You almost want to put the public stamp.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I don't want to put my staff right, my stamp, Yes,
my stamp is to create something that's engaging and different
and you haven't seen and I love that. And the
international component, like I really, I really want that inclusion.
Like this year, I have gallery from South Africa, I
have a gallery from Poland, from Germany, from swift like
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all over the place. That's the inclusion and the inclusion
of the community and the museums. But when it comes
to the art, it's subjective. It really is like I
might like something, you might not like it. So if
I'm putting my stamp on it, that's me that's born.
So that's the inclusion. You bring everybody in and you
let people decide what they.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Like before you go live with the show, you know,
like I've been I've been blessed to go to some
screenings before movies come up and like vote on it
and stuff like that. Right, So you have something like
that where you kind of bring a diverse group of
people through the immersions.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I would love to do that. Unfortunately though, the production
side of things and the the element of putting this together, No,
it's huge because we do build all the walls and
we create everything differently, so it's not cookie cutter. So
you do need to come in and create all that
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and usually we're we're running to the last second. So
I guess opening night and VIP is you know, your
first look before the public. But I would have loved
to have more time to be able to do that
and allow for like a pre pre where people can
actually experience and have a conversation. But we are doing
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that on Sunday though, with that artist next to the river,
with the cleanup and creating that component. So that's before
the show.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
We have to ask you, La in Florida, way different worlds, Okay,
I'm sorry, there's way different Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like I love there, but I don't want to live there,
if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Right, So it's like I love it, but so how
do you kind of see it through two different lenses? Yes,
to make sure that the people that are showing up
at this and I you know, Brian knows, everyone knows.
I don't talk political on here ever, you know, just
but left coast, right coast, it's like it goes there.
But like, how do you like have that vision to
make sure Okay, this is like you do like a
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bunch of research for like demographics and what people are
looking for in that area, and then put it together
with your mind, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Absolutely okay, like very different.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, So this is our fourth year, right.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So the first couple of years I was kind of
figuring it out also because they are different and and no,
you can't bring the same experiences are the same things
that you would bring in LA, because honestly, you would
offend a lot of people in Florida and you would
get a lot of person you would get a lot
of people very very very upset, right, And that's not
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like And also that's the idea that every market and
every place is different. And that's a conversation you also
have with the artists, the galleries and everybody. I have
galleries that do both my shows, but they will bring
very different things to LA that they will bring to Palm.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You have, and that's okay, You're not not to offend anybody. No,
some people that you said before, an artist or an
arc director or something. They're just gonna put their stamp
on it.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Oh no, no, no, what I'm saying. No, that's silly. And
why am I coming into your town to offend you?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
No, I'm coming into your town to bring something different
that you might have not seen. Bring experience and experience
and be completely respectful of your views, your ideas, your everything.
Just bring another component that you might not see elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You're so well lived in life, right, So I have
this is a can question I asked all of my guests,
but I have to know it with you, with your
your upbringing, in what you've lived, Like, how do you
want your dash? Remember that little line in between your
incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and
death ding?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's difficult.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
How do you want your dasham? Because you're you know,
your father's carrying a legacy, your mom carried a legacy.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You're building it and killing it.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But how do you in the end, because I know
you're a great mother, you know and whatnot, But like,
how do you really want to be like kind of
remembered if someone's to stand up and like remember you straightforward?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, I can see that a little Greek Italian going up.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Straightforward, honest and I you know, I'm very like friends
and family and you know, if you're if you're okay,
I'm okay that you know. I like that. I don't
like games.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
That's why I love her authenticity that. This is one
thing I'm picking up from her right now is that
she lives life on her terms, but she also wants
to serve and leave the world a better place. Maybe
bumped and bruised throughout the time. But you know, but
like if you were to get in that doloreum with
Marty McFly from Back to the Future, like and you
went back to say the double duce the twenty two
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year old Cassandra, what not to change anything because you've
lived a pretty awesomely But what kind of stuff you
might you do to shorten a learning curve on something
like to maybe blast through a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Quicker twenty two year old?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Okay, it's crazy age, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
It is. How was actually in Japan at the time.
I think I would probably be a little bit more flexible.
When you're in your early twenties, you're very stuck in your.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Ways without a doubt, very.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Stuck in your way. So I think I would have
been a little bit more flexible, and I would have
been a little bit more open to taking in criticism,
ideas and whatever, because that would have helped me get
where I'm at today much quicker. But on the other hand,
that difficulty is also what got me here because I
was stubborn and so you.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That was a tough one, No I did it. I
look back.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That one thing that I would do is like, because
I was twenty two, I was in the military. It's
some crazy stuff, and you know, but I thought I
knew everything, and then if I didn't know anything, I
wouldn't ask. So I would say, now, like the kids
that I'm blessed to coach, like get your asking here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Ask.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
There's people out there that want to tell you right
and do that. So what is kind of like the
if you if you kind of had the like this
one you have to answer a little bit quickly for me.
But if you like had unlimited resources for that one
moon shot like project right that you could put out
for the world, right, what might that it might not
(25:28):
commercially be feasible, right, But like what would it be.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It would be those immersive and those educational and nonprofit
components on steroids, like huge installations like that. You would
just go through and live another reality. Yeah, if I
had unlimited sources, I would go crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I can just see like the I'd love to buy
the World of Coke kind of thing opening it.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
The song from when we were kids and stuff, you
remember that, and then just kind of like to immerse
the whole world. I can see you designing that.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I would love that. Yeah, that would be crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I love it. So how can we find you?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Our palmbach dot com.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Okay, and do the dates is January twenty eighth of
twenty twenty six to the first Eebruary first. Okay, I
got so everything can be bought there, like tickets.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Tickets are already live, they're out there. Everything is on there.
The programming, the immersive and the diverse is slowly, slowly
being announced as we're putting it all together. Okay, but
everything is on the website.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, okay, against squad it is art Palmbeach dot com.
That's art Palmbeach dot com. And also you can call
them at three one zero eight two two nine one
four five is there like any room for something that's
kind of coming up in January if anybody won the
last minute, or are you pretty much set with your
whiteboard and kind of getting ready.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
To push it through again?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Always room for interest, always, okay, I'm always pivot is
always the best way.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Then quickly on this, can someone kind of get a
hold of like to be to get through to you?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
So on the contact page of our Palm Beach there's
my email and they can reach out to me that way.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Info at Art Palmbeachshow dot com. Again, it's info at
Art Palmbeachshow dot com. You know, so thank you so
much for coming on. I wish I had an hour
with you like this would be on forever and ever
and ever. Thank you to my awesome producer, uh Brian
Mud to the pr rep here Stan Miller, who is
filling my calendar this month, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And to w J and O everybody get out there,
bumble up.