May 30, 2025 • 53 mins
Tonight’s guest, Norm Sollie, grew up in Washington State and due in large part to that, he developed a strong fascination with Sasquatch at an early age. Growing up, he spent a lot of time outdoors, but it wasn’t until 1980 that he went out for the sole purpose of looking for Sasquatch. On that outing, he experienced what was quite likely Sasquatch activity, but he didn’t see one. Fast forward to 2010, he had signed up for a spiritual retreat, just 40 miles outside of Chicago. Sasquatch wasn’t on his mind, due to how close he was from Chicago, but that didn’t stop him from having a sighting while he was there. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to Norm share the details of that sighting as well as several other experiences he’s had.
To view that stick structure presentation Norm mentioned sending me, please visit…
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1fRg4cdAdBJAiJuHTj_plaIz1I5KLs12dxrOCDJNvydI/edit
If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest, on the show, please go to https://MyBigfootSighting.com and let us know. We’d love to hear from you.
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Show's theme song, "Banjo Music," courtesy Nathan Brumley
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To view that stick structure presentation Norm mentioned sending me, please visit…
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1fRg4cdAdBJAiJuHTj_plaIz1I5KLs12dxrOCDJNvydI/edit
If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest, on the show, please go to https://MyBigfootSighting.com and let us know. We’d love to hear from you.
Premium memberships are now available! If you’d like to be able to listen to the show without ads and have full access to premium content, please go to https://MyBigfootSighting.com to find out how to become a premium member.
If you’d like to help support the show by buying your own My Bigfoot Sighting T-shirt, sweatshirt, or tank top, please visit the My Bigfoot Sighting Show Store Page, by going to... https://dogman-encounters.myshopify.com/collections/mens-my-bigfoot-sighting-collection
Show's theme song, "Banjo Music," courtesy Nathan Brumley
I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App...
Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio https://www.spreaker.com/show/bigfoot-eyewitness-radio_1
Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2
Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134
My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
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the church at the backbone, laws and the bow and
the fasting melodies cove in with the bomb man rose
with the roofs run deep beyond the nose of the
busy streets with the songs.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of the South of su Then.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
When I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
Food siding happened in Illinois. My name is Norman Solely.
I'm sixty five years old. I'm working as a farm
hand right now in western Massachusetts. But I grew up
in Washington State and I had an early interest in sasquatch.
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I can remember going and seeing the Patterson Gimlin film
as a first run in a movie theater with my father,
and that led eventually to me getting books by John
Green and Renee Dahinden and Grover Krantz reading what I
could in library is the same old story here from
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a lot of people. I was very interested as a
young teen mid teen. I even wrote an article about
sasquatch from my high school newspaper. And this is all
from Seattle. But we were an outdoorsy family and we
went up into the mountains square a bit. We did
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a lot of camping, et cetera. So I spent a
lot of time in the outdoors and sasquatch was on
my mind, but it wasn't a huge concern.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
But the people around.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Me gradually got to know that I was interested in sasquatch.
People started sending me newspaper articles. I had the file going,
et cetera. And eventually, at about nineteen eighty, the year
nineteen eighty, I decided I was going to go out
and look for sasquatch. And I did this as an
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overnight backpack. We had a cabin in the Washington State
Cascades and I used that as a base camp. I
looked at the top all maps and I kind of
sasquatch dowsed. I found an area that felt right to me,
high Mountain Lake, no trails into it, trails, getting kind
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of close but not into it.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
So this is the Washington State cast Gates.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
A lot of conifers, Douglas hempher, western red cedar, a
little bit very dense woods. Some of the area had
been logged off, but some of the areas I was
approaching this high mountain lake seemed to be essentially old growth,
at least it had been a very long time. There's
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a lot of trees down in the woods, so it
was kind of slow going, clambering over these huge logs
and going out of my way going on a zigzag
essentially what I did on this trip where I was
going to be the Sasquatch investigator. I found a spur
ridge to take me up to this high mountain lake.
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The spur ridge idea was because they tend to be
more free of fallen logs, et cetera. And there's often
game trails on a spur ridge, so it made a
pretty good route for me, and it actually was a
good route. Once I climbed out of the low Valley
about two miles into my hike, I had about two
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miles going up the spur ridge to get to the lake,
or total of about four miles through really thick woods.
The only place that you could really see much of
the sky was at the creek and the spur ridge,
of course, was climbing up above the creek, and it
was bright enough under the trees.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
But a little gloomy.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
But eventually I got up to this lake and it's
a very large lake, and I did find an old
campground fire ring, and I found fish heads in the
water there. That excited me because I had also brought
a fishing pole and I was determined to do some
fishing as long as I climbed into this lake.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
But I set up camp. It's now.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Dinner time, six seven pm. Set up camp, made myself
some dinner, and it it starts raining, and that was
a bummer because I really wanted to explore around the lake.
I was really determined to do that. I wanted to
look for tracks. I wanted to find this elusive mountain ape,
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which is what I believed in at that time. It
was just a dumb, elusive mountain ape that somehow I
was managing to stay away from us all but I
was going to help settle that. But it starts raining
and I retreated to my tent and I did my
usual go to sleep rather than worry about being a
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tent out in the woods. And I actually did that
just fine. Except in the night, while it's still raining,
I woke to the sound of a funny cry. It
was a distant, whiling sound, and since I had been
woken by it, you know, I wasn't quite sure what
did I hear, but I was pretty confident I really
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had heard it.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
But it was definitely at a distance.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It was fairly high pitched too, and long and trailing off.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Go back to sleep.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I wake up in the morning, unzip the rain fly,
and in front of my tent, about four feet away
is a large footprint squished down into the mud in
front of my tent. I could not remember having made
this large footprint in front of my tent. I was
wearing hiking boots. They leave pretty big tracks. The track
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was indistinguishable, but it was right in front of my tent,
so that seemed odd to me. And I'm going to
finish up this story before I take you to Illinois. Eventually,
and my one big foot siding, I start to get
the feeling that I need to leave. And this was
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despite the fact I intended to fish that lake, despite
the fact that the weather cleared up and was very pleasant.
Despite the fact that I was going to look for
Sasquatch evidence. I just had this thing in me saying
it's time to go, and a lot of you listeners
will find that very familiar. I was not conscious about it.
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I did not question it. I did not wonder, hey,
why am I abandoning all my plans and thinking I've
got to leave?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
But that's what I did.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I packed up and I started hiking out, and I
wasn't feeling really the dread or anything. It was just
a sense of time to go and me responding by thinking, Okay,
I'll get going. But I was going fairly fast, and
I was going so fast I didn't want to take
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the time to go down the slightly meandering, slightly longer
spur ridge to get down to the creek bottom. I
just went straight down the mountainside. And this was kind
of messy, lots of down trees, lots of undergrowth, small trees.
I was moving pretty fast. I wasn't running, but I
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was moving pretty fast. But I actually jured my knee
on the way down. And part of what was a
little odd is I kept hearing noises when I entered
my knee on the way down because I had a
bad knee already. I had an acepandage with me and
the last advantage to wrap my knee with and give
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it more support. So I stopped, took off the heavy pack.
I'm doing all that, and I'm hearing twigs breaking uphill
behind me, and I literally think to myself, boy, the
deer and elk sure are clumsy around here.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I laugh about it now.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Because that sound of twigs breaking, et cetera behind people
as they're leaving an area is it is something we
all look for a report. But at the time I
had no clue dealing with a dumb mountainee, and I'm
just thinking, there's deer that, for some reason are behind me.
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You are startling and running away even though they're behind
me instead of being in front of me. We're you
usually surprised the deer or an elk. I continue on
in my rushed way, and I get down to the
creek bottom where I've got a little sky, and that
feeling of needing to leave just completely vanishes.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I feel fine.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I am now taking my time, but I don't want
to leave the open air with the blue sky above me,
of the creek. Instead of following the creek in the woods,
I just walk down the creek in the water. I'm
feel in fine, well I'm doing but that's how I'm
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getting back to the trail i'd come in on. I
had three quarters of a mile or so of just
walking in the creek, and I even at one point
I stopped and took off my pack. I saw a
fish in this little creek. It's only like ten feet wide,
lots of shallows, and I saw like a six inch
long brook trout. I caught it with my bare hands,
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and I thought to myself, Hey, sasquatch could do this,
and I'm sure they could. So that's really the end
of that one. I got out no further excitement. But
as years go by, I think back on that trip
and I think about those clumsy deer and elk, and
I think about that track right in front of my
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tent and the long wailing sound that woke me in
the middle of the night, and I suspect I had
a little bit different of an experience than what I
was thinking about at the time. So moving right along,
about nineteen eighty four or so, I had a little
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crisis in my interest in Sasquatch. An article came out
in the Seattle Times about how people had found bigfoot
tracks under their bedroom window on the outskirts of Bellevue, Washington.
Bell v was a place I was very familiar with.
It's a town.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
It's like.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's a big town now, it's huge. Back then, it
was pretty big, a lot of office buildings, it's got
a downtown area. And I'm reading this article about how
a bigfoot was looking through a bedroom window or big feet.
It even implied there was different size tracks, and I thought,
what the heck bigfoot is looking through a bedroom window
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in Bellevue, Washington.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It made no sense.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
And frankly, that was my crisis point. The years of
being told that this was an elusive mountain ape hit
up against them looking through a bedroom window in the suburbs,
and I thought, this makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
And I went.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Into a long period where I did not go out
of my way to look into Sasquatch, quite a long period.
But that didn't stop me from having a couple of
interesting events before I got to that Illinois siding. In
August of nineteen ninety nine, I got involved with a
service work trip to the Pine Ridge Lakota Indian Reservation
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in South Dakota, and that was great. Had wonderful experiences there.
And one of the experiences there was I went to
a place called Kisa Park outside of Manderson, South Dakota.
This is the place that Woody Harrelson is associated with,
where they tried hard to grow a medicinal herb, only
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to have the dea sweep in right before harvest time
two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
But what was great there.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Was I made a connection with the young Lakota teenagers
there and they would come into our camp. All these
little class white people camping in their big grassy field
with trees all around, pinto horses grazing through it.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It was idyllic.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
But one thing was going on there that I found
odd that I was noticing. Nobody seemed to pay much
attention to it. We were sitting around the campfire talking
to our Lakota friends and there would be a funny
noise and this happened several times coming from the woods
around us.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And I'll try here.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
To imitate that noise, because I hate it when people
talk about noises and don't even give it a shot.
But it was a little like a crow or a raven.
It was a boh kind of like that. But this
is darkness, and I stopped and I recall one time
I asked one of the young Lakota men, is that
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some of your friends out there? And all I got
was just a blank look in return, no answer, no response,
no nothing. I don't know what that was, but I
found that kind of interesting. So moving right along here
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we get to my big foot siding. Two thousand and
nine or twenty ten, I signed up for a spiritual
retreat at that was hosted at a Catholic retreat center
just forty miles outside of Chicago. Sasquatch was not on
my mind. This was so close to Chicago, it was
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very rural. It was wood lots interspersed with cornfields, pretty
upscale houses, and it was only about two miles away
from Woodstock, Illinois, where a Groundhog Day was filmed. But
that has little to do with this story. So I'm
at the spiritual retreat. It's about five days. We're all
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living inside the retreat center and we're attending breakout sessions.
We've got a cafeteria there. We have really no reason
to leave, but a lot of us would take walks
on the grounds. They had forty acres of wooded grounds.
There's a pond, there was a swamp.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
It was nice.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
There was some trails, and I'd being kind of outdoorsy.
Whenever I would get a break, I would tend to
head outside. So after we had a couple hours of lectures,
one day, we had like a fifteen to twenty minute
break and I made a bee line for the outdoors
along with a few other people. But I had remembered
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I had seen an odd trail opening off of the
mon Lawn area into the woods. It was around a corner.
You couldn't even see the start of this trail from
the building, which was a huge Catholic retreat center and
including a church within the.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Center.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
This opening was off to the side. You couldn't see
the retreat center, and it just seemed odd.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
But it was big.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was like four feet wide and really tall, no
branches up very high, and I thought, I'm going to
take this trail, so I did. I took this trail,
But what it did is it took me in a
big loop back around to the main trail system, but
up a slight hill, slight sloping ground, So I was
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looking down on this main trail. Now, these were deep
deciduous woods primarily, but they were fully leafed out old
old trees, chestnuts, maples, ash beaches, that sort of thing.
Very little undergrowth because the overstory was so thick. But
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it was gloomy in there, so much overgrowth. It was
gloomy even though it was the middle of the day.
So i come around on this trail and I'm in
the spiritual retreat mode. I'm thinking peace, love and happiness,
groovy thoughts in my head, not really thinking about much
else except maybe to try to get ahead of the
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rest of the walkers. And I could hear them coming
below me, still behind me, but along this main trail.
So I'm walking along and I'm really deep in my head,
and I only vaguely noticed that I can see a
figure below me that doesn't seem to be one of
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my co retreat members. It seems to be somebody watching
my retreat members. And I'm still not really paying attention,
but it's stuck in my head.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
The movements this thing was making.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
So there's lots of undergrowth, not lots of undergrowth, there's
minimal undergrowth, but there's lots of deadfall, fallen logs, et cetera.
What I'm seeing is really just only about five foot six,
And what I found immediately odd about it was the
outline of this figure at about one hundred and fifty
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feet away is fuzzy. It's not a distinct edge. It's fuzzy,
and it's black. And there's no like change in coloration
between cuffs of sleeves and hand or shirt and pants,
pants and shoes. It's just uniformly black, fuzzy, five foot six,
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light framed, slim, normal human proportions from what I was noticing,
had a neck, had a round head like human shaped head.
But what it is doing it's high stepping carefully through
the debris on the ground, and its head is moving
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back and forth on its shoulders as if it's trying
to see around tree trunks, etc. It is spying on
the other people walking towards it. I could tell it
was literally spying on them. It was trying to get
a better view. It was very interested in those people.
At this point, I'm starting to pay a little bit
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more attention and my mind is starting to think, oh
wait a second, this doesn't quite make sense. And I'm
watching it and it kind of walks perpendicular to the
path of the oncoming people, pass the trail that they're
coming on, and it passes from my point of view
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behind the trunk of one of these large trees, like
a thirty inch in diameter trunk. It appears to pass
behind that trunk and it never comes out again.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And at that point I'm kind of wondering, wait a second,
what did I just see and why did it walk
behind this tree and never come out from behind it?
And look, I literally this is where my head was.
I literally talked that up to a spiritual experience, which
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maybe it was, but I talked it up to some
form that was maybe out of body, some sort of
spiritual manifestation that was interested in the energy of the retreat,
watching the people on the retreat. And that's where my
head was at for years about that sighting for years.
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If I tell it these days to people who are
in the Sasquatch world, they're like, well, duh. I was
a young Sasquatch at the time. I had no idea
what I saw. I was not thinking Sasquatch forty miles
from Illinois.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
It was.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Several years later before I started hearing about people seeing
sasquatch even closer to Chicago than I was, But at
that time I hadn't. So you might want to know
what turned me around, what made me reframe that event. Well,
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this is where some of the weird stuff comes in,
and for me, there is frankly a fair amount of
weird stuff. The pairanormal. In twenty eleven or twenty twelve,
I had moved to Alaska Interior, Alaska, close to Denali
National Park and Preserve, the park that has Mount McKinley
in it, the tallest mountain of North America.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
And I was living.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
By myself in a one room cabin. I was reinventing myself.
I had actually lived in Alaska in the old days,
and I was so happy to be back. But one
night I had a dream. And I know, hearing about
dreams is about the most boring thing ever, So I'm
just going to quickly tell you the sasquatch part of
the dream. Somebody had another man had taken me to
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the top of a canyon. We're looking down in the canyon.
There is like a rock shelter, a horizontal opening into
the canyon wall, much like places in the Southwest. In fact,
It even had that Southwest feel to it, but it
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was almost like a more of a cave opening rather
than just an overhang, and that there are literally ten
Sasquatch pairs lined up in front of this rock shelter,
this cave opening. And the man I'm with tells me.
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He explains to me that these are pairs that mate
for life.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
And I stay.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Back to him in this dream, and keep in mind,
I haven't been thinking about Sasquatch much at all for years,
I say back to him in my dream. If what
you say is true, then everything we thought we knew
about Sasquatch.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Is wrong.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
And then I woke up that warning and I thought, huh,
everything we thought we knew about Sasquatch is wrong. And
I thought, well, I'm going to see what's out there
now and brand new world of internet, at least for
me as far as Sasquatch is concerned. I got online
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and I started hearing things, and the things I was
hearing was not pointing at elusive mountain ape. It was
pointing at something else a bit more complicated. But I'm
in Alaska, right, I was literally living somewhere where it
gets minus forty.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
In the winter.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
So of course sasquatch does not make sense at minus
forty in interior Alaska, we're talking an area where twenty
foot tall black spruce, maybe thirty forty foot tall white spruce,
a little bit taller down in some of the creek bottoms,
a lot of aspen, some cottonwood, willows, birch. I was
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living on the margin between tiger and tundra, which is
that type of low forest, and tundra is open muskeg,
labrador te sphagnum moss, berries, lots of berries, pretty harsh climate,
a huge growth of green in the summer, which is
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about five months of green time, seven months of winter.
It's a harsh climate. So I'm not thinking sasquatch really
except looking into sasquatch. Obsessed with sasquatch, learning everything I can.
So where I'm living, a couple of funny things did happen.
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One is, there was a few local dog teams, and
I was near one dog team, and occasionally a dog
team would just go nuts, barking and carrying on for
a significant amount of time. And I once found one
of the metal dog bowls, like one hundred and fifty
feet away from this dog team and I thought, well,
that's a lot how.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
To get out here.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Also, there was a couple incidents of very persistent owl
calling when it was light out, but this is Alaska.
It can be pretty darn light out at eleven at night.
But I just remember a I think barn owl is
what it was, just going on and on.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
It seemed odd.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I had moved up there for a woman and the
old story, and fairly quickly at the start of the
next summer I moved in with her. And as I
moved in, she warned me that the house makes noises.
And I asked her, what do you mean it makes noises?
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And she says, well, it just makes noises like popping
noises and stuff at night. Apparently it doesn't make the
noises during the day. It just makes the noises at night. Okay,
well that's interesting, and I say I thank her for
the warning. I got to tell you a little bit
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more about this house. I moved in before she had
any running water. This is rural Alaska. There was an
outhouse there and hauled water and five gallon jugs to
start with. We eventually did get a pressurized system with
a bathroom with shower, et cetera. But when I moved in,
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my partner was still taking showers outdoors. And kids don't
listen to this part. But my partner was an attractive woman,
and she had a place back behind the cabin on
this five acre lot in a subdivision of five and
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ten acre lots. But she had a very private place
where she would put up the old sun shower hoisted
up in the trees above her and take an outdoor shower.
And that's cool. That's what I started doing when I
was there too. That was the way to take a
shower for a few months there. Not too far from
this outdoor shower location, behind a grove of trees inside
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of both the many picture windows of the living room
and the shower was this beaten down area, kind of
shielded by some spruce trees, but with a view of
both of those locations. And I go to my partner
and I say, why is the ground all traveled over here?
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And she said, I don't know. People used to camp
around here and stuff. I don't know why the grounds traveled.
At that point, I was starting to have my suspicions.
But how do you tell your partner that you think
maybe she's had an audience I never told her my suspicion.
I just helped get the indoor shower set up quickly
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one night, leading more credence to my theory. Here we
are sitting on the futon watching a movie. We are
facing a window at the other end of the great room,
which wasn't that great. It's maybe twenty feet away from us,
and there was suddenly a terrific boom against the exterior
wall right there. It seemed to be right under that
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window that was facing us.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Me, being an.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Alpha male at the time, in charge of my woman,
I rush outdoors, and I wasn't immediately thinking sasquatch. I
rush outdoors and there is nothing. I can't find a
sound as sign of anything, nothing disappearing in the woods.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
But I was left with an impression when I heard
that banging, I felt that something was not happy to
find me there. And I think also my reaction maybe
was a surprise.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Instead of.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Drawing drapes or something like that, me rushing outside, that
was pretty aggressive. We didn't have any more problems. In fact,
the house stopped making noises, no more noises.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I have my suspicions, but I couldn't find any marks
on the side of the house. Couldn't find any tracks.
One thing that was there, there was a place where
trees apparently had been pulled over to make kind of
a blind. Living trees had been pulled over and had made.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
A wall.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
With a large spruce at the back about three feet
a room to stand or sit in, and then the
road right out in front about fifty feet away or so.
I suspect that was made when they were putting in
the road. They had to do a cut in a
bank there, and there would have been bulldozers going back
and forth, back and forth. I suspect something made that
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blind just to watch the entertainment of the heavy equipment.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I don't know though.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Another thing in that subdivision, that same rural Alaska subdivision,
and I will say this is just north of the
Alaska Range near Heally, Alaska. One day I'm walking along
the road and I can hear the most feeble rooster.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
It was pathetic.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Once again, I'll try this, Downd. It was like cock,
I do it, I'll.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Do it was really bad. It was pathetic.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
It was coming down a long driveway and I'm thinking, oh,
they must have chickens down there, and you know. I
even stop and I'm looking down the driveways trying to
spot the chickens. And it's rural Alaska. There's a few
people with chickens, but it's kind of rare because you're
looking at twelve dollars a dozen eggs with the heating
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you have to do, and the Fort Knox you have
to build around them because the bears literally we get
grizzly bears in that subdivision. But there's got to be
if there's a rooster, there's chickens. I ran across somebody
who was friends with the person down that long driveway
and I asked them about it, and he looked at
me funny, and he said, they don't have chickens. So ironically,
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where this happened was right across the road from where
a small town Monsters film crew was to come and
stay in two or three years from that time. It
was right across the road, and I was about able
to tell them about that incident. In the woods there,
I began finding peculiar log arrangements. One was a giant
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asterisk of logs laying on the ground, and I was
hiking with my skeptical partner at the time and She
looked at it and said, it looks like somebody made that,
and it really did. It was very precisely spaced, et cetera.
And it was at the mouth of really a minor drainage,
which I came to call Ape Canyon in my head.
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And I'm a little embarrassed about that. It's kind of
rude to use the word ape, but I did. I
called it that. It was a place that made me uneasy.
I didn't really like to go in there, but where
this was was. I eventually bought some land off the
road system, and I began I'm building a cabin, and
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I went down into that a canyon drainage more than once,
and it just it felt weird. So eventually I tried
to find a way to not go into that and
still get to my property in the cabin I was building. Unfortunately,
when I switched to the other side of the creek,
I found what I called the no trespassing sign. I
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found two broken spruces laying directly across the moose trail.
That was the logical way for me to start the
trip up to my property in cabin, and for I
still call that the no trespassing sign. I never moved
it because I'm superstitious. I just step over it and
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I literally asked for permission to walk through, and I
asked for a safe passage. And I have been doing
that for years. Right now, I'm not living in Alaska,
but that was my routine. I'd step over that and
I'd say, please allow me, say passage on mind my manners,
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et cetera.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
That's a short version also in that area.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I one time did get a little into that Ape
Canyon area on the way down before I established my trail,
and I found half a dog. And I don't know
if thats sasquatch or not. This was a small dog,
maybe a twenty pound dog, curly gray hair. It was
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just the back end of the dog. It was like
the dog from below the ripped cage on. What was
odd was that was a pretty clean cut. It wasn't ripped,
it wasn't torn. It seemed more cut. There wasn't like
vertebrae hanging out. There was a little bit of blood
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under it as I flipped it over, not a lot.
I don't think it died there. But this is a dog.
About a mile and a half as the hiker hikes
from the nearest highway or building homes of any kind.
I did call the nearest landowner. He said, no missing dog.
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I called that half dog ridge from then on, can't
explain it. Don't know what that half dog was about.
Somebody said maybe it was dropped by an eagle. I
think that would have been probably too much weight for
an eagle.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Also had tongue clacking sounds. One time leaving the cabin,
I had a dog that was great for being my.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Ears and nose.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
This dog was a puller, so I would do what
we call walk during with this dog. I would put
a harness on the dog and attach the dog to
a line around my waist. And the dog would actually
helped me quite a bit, pulling me up the hills,
down the hills, sometimes down the hills way too fast.
But this dog was also my early warning system. And
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as we stepped out of the cabin this time, immediately
there was what I call a tongue clock and I'll
try to make that sound now like that. But Louder
and the dog and I our heads both swiveled to
the exact same place, about eighty feet away from us,
the top of the very low ridge right in front
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of us, well actually off to our left. We both
knew exactly where that sound was coming from. I could
not see anything. It could have been a raven sound, possibly,
I don't know. What was a little uncomfortable for me
is me and the dog had to move closer to
where that sound came from in order to head down
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the trail and head back to the highway way where
my truck was parked. About two point six mile walk
by the way.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
So we walked that two.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Point six miles deep trees, creek bottom, A little bit
more life and lush along that creek bottom.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Berries are the berries, blueberries, raspberries a few, so.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
A little bit more life down in there. Some big
trees too, big timber. We get out of the alders
that are along the highway and step out on the highway,
and there's one more sound as we step out on
the highway. It completely booked bookended that hike, and I
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did not feel any sense of being followed, of being observed.
But when I heard that second tongue clack, it felt
like I'd had an escort. And I don't know what
the tongue clock was about, but I felt like I
had an escort. So there's a couple of paranormal type
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things that happened to me at that cabin, and I
like to talk about those now. So going up to
that cabin, the more I was hearing about sasquatch, the
more sign I was finding along the way, and I
did find a little bit more. I'd be again to
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become conscious of walking alone on that two point six
mile trail and what I might be sharing the woods with.
But keep in mind, this is an area with black bear,
with grizzly bear, with wolves, kyotes lengths, so a person
hiking alone, they're on alert. Anyhow, I'm making noise every
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fifty feet or so, calling out. I don't want to
sneak up on anything. It's really easy for the while
life to avoid me. I've got my dog, he's my
early warning system. I can tell where something is, although
half the time the things concerned about is a squirrel,
so it's a lot of false alarms. But one of
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the times I get to the cabin, I walk into
the cabin and as usual, I head for the thermometer
to see what the temperature is inside. I'm also thinking
the thoughts I had while I was walking up there,
and I had to sudden epiphany as I'm stepping into
the cabin, and I realized, Hey, if Sasquatch wanted to
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drive people like me out of the woods back to
population centers.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
It would be very easy.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Throw a few rocks at the roof, bang on windows. Man,
We're out of there. The terror would just be so complete.
We would just leave the cabins and we'd head back.
I'm thinking that literally, as I lean over slightly to
read the temperature on the thermometer. I read the temperatures,
I'm having this thought about how Sasquatch could drive us
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out of the back country.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Turned my head.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
The thermometer pops off the wall. It falls off the wall,
lands at my feet. As I'm having that thought, I think, well,
that is very interesting that thermometer never before fell off
the wall, and never after fell off the wall. Seismically
active area. Earthquakes don't get it off the wall, winds
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don't get it off the wall. But something right there
right then had to pop off the wall. I put
it back on its nail on the wall. Never happened again.
Another thing that happened there was right at that same
location in the cabin, and this is silly. I had
the solar system. There had a way to charge batteries.
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I had a four double A battery charger that I
was trying to empty, and I boggled it and I
managed to knock the batteries out of it, and they
go flying all over the place, four double A batteries.
And I spent twenty minutes trying to find those four batteries.
I found three of them. One of them. It was
like it had just gone into a different dimension.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
I could not.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Find that battery. To save my life, I finally gave up.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
I was literally.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Checking my socks, I'm checking my boots, I'm checking in
my pant pockets, I'm emptying things, I'm moving furniture. Could
not find the missing battery. Two weeks later, I come
back to the cabin. There is a double A battery
laying on the ground outside my cabin, which is fifteen
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horizontal feet away from where I dropped the batteries through
a door that had been closed. But it is laying
out there in the dirt, very obvious. I spotted it
very quickly. I don't know what that's about. There seems
to me to be somewhat of a playful aspect of
this phenomenon, and I enjoy it. I am literally laughing
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out loud. Sometimes there might be a nervous, slightly hysterical
edge to it. Another odd thing that happened to me
in that cabin I had a loft there. I would
sleep in the loft and a sleeping bag, very comfortable.
I would sleep very well. I like being a bit
off the ground. I wake up one morning adding a
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very nice sleep, and I, do you know a stretch
and a uh like that kind of thing, And it
is immediately followed by the same sound from directly below me.
It sounds like me, but I'm done stretching. It's like
an echo of me. It's a great imitation. Doesn't even
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really sound like an imitation. It sounds like me underneath
me making the same sound. And here's an odd thing.
I'm not alarmed. I'm not freaking out. I get dressed
kind of at my normal pace. I start heading down
the very steep ladder stairs, and as I'm going down
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the stairs, I am like craning to look into the
kitchen under that loft area. There's nothing there. Of course,
the door is still latch closed. It was latched from
the inside. I literally got on my hands and knees
looking on that rug that's under the loft on the
first floor, seeing if there was any hears or anything
that I honestly did, could not find a thing. I
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cannot explain that, just some of the funny things that
happens to people. To me, this phenomenon seems to be
aware of you being a of the phenomenon, and you
come under a little greater scrutiny when you're looking into it.
So be careful of those of you listening. If you're
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getting into this, you're starting to go out looking for
sign looking for track, looking for stick structures.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
It may lead to more. It may indeed.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
So July of twenty twenty three, my son sends me
a video. He lives in Colorado. He lives in Boulder County.
He likes the mountain bike. He saw some funny things
in the woods. He sends me a video. They look
like teepees in the woods along this trail, lodgepole pine
logs like teepees. Well, my son has a wife and
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a daughter, which means I've got a granddaughter.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
So of course I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Visiting soon and I beg him to take me up
there where he took that video. I ended up finding
thirteen stick structures in those woods along that trail and
off the trail. Some of them were up to like
one hundred and fifty feet off the trail. A couple
of them seem to have been former tps that have
been pushed over. You could see the log distribution. It
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looked like a TP without the canvas pushed over. I
made a presentation based upon those stick structures. One of
them was a triple TP. The easy thing to say is, well,
hikers are making these that triple TP arrangement. I remember
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in my presentation, I type in like the Denver Airport.
I don't know if any of you have been to
the Denver Airport, but it looked like tps blended together,
and I thought that is just really remarkable for somebody
goofing around in the woods. I think for that one
I counted eighty different logs, none of them huge, up
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to like twenty feet long, logical light logs. Humans definitely
could have made it.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
But would they would they take.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
The time along a trail. There's no views or anything.
There's no lake right there, It's just along a wooded trail.
I could see them adding to it like somebody putting
a couple more sticks in once they see it could
have happened naturally. But I found thirteen things along the
woods along that trail in the woods, And if Vick
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wants to, I'll send him a link to that stick
structure presentation and he may include it at the bottom
of this video for you to take a look at.
In August of twenty twenty three, a friend of mine
who had a daylight siding in Ganali National Park of
a sasquatch moving quadripeatedly along the park road within side
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of the park road, he took me to a stick
structure within sight of the center. To me, this is hilarious.
It should be part of their natural history presentations, something
that a ranger takes you out. It is a stick
structure outside of the visitor center in the woods there
and what it looks like to me is an old,
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broken down playpen. I call it the playpen. It was
bigger than a human playpen, but it was teardrop shaped.
It has no entrance. It's a thick innerweaving of like
up to one inch tree branches, trunks, et cetera. And
my explanation, frankly, is way back when it was a
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place to put an infant and be able to come
back a few hours later and grab your baby again.
This has been very interesting telling you about this stuff.
I'm going to wrap it up just by saying I
live in western Massachusetts now. When I first came to
visit here, I just was very skeptical that my hobby
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of sasquatch would have any output or any focus here.
I asked the people I was coming to perhaps work
with if I could explore their many acres of woods,
and wouldn't you know it, I found a lean to
structure in their woods that they did not know about.
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And since then, I've found a whole lot of twig breaks,
tree breaks, etc. I've had a gifting side vandalized by
something very big. I've had bark stripped off of trees
right next to where I take breaks. It just goes
on and on, Folks, It never ends. This doesn't make
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sense as an elusive mountain ape.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
It just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I ask you all to open your minds to other possibilities.
I cannot tell you what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
I have my suspicions but I think the best rule
of thumb for me and perhaps for you two is
to treat whatever we're dealing with as an uncontacted tribe,
a tribe that generally does not want to be contacted.
They're staying out of the way deliberately. In fact, I
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think they get kind of irritated by us chasen after them.
So be respectful, ask for permission, apologize where you've overstepped.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
So thank you very much for listening everybody.
Speaker 7 (50:34):
Well, that's it for tonight's show. If you've had a
big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, Have a great night.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Seen a bunch of run down now host towns with
the Church is the Backbone, lows and the Bow and
the pasting melodies, coove in with the bomb man Rose
with a ruse Rundee on the nose of.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
The busy streets, with the songs.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Of the South of Su.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Then I mean I hear the prompboat picking down home rhythm,
bringing out had a run from Banjung music. Yeah, the
sound of a memory brings me back to the bluegrass
playing them maerdaddy Jack.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
It's become many been through.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
It, getting through the day on scrubs and Skaggs, booking
name bales through this Tennessee jams.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
There's no the way that I do it.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
And I hear the plump poach picking.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
Down home rhythm bringing nut had over run from ben
Jong music.
Speaker 8 (51:50):
Yeah, so backwards backwoods and double time looking to the
sword in.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
The struggle look and tup stuff, don't they hit the
strumming out cut your born.
Speaker 8 (52:02):
Living and I hear the bum boat picking rhythm bringing
naso from from.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Ben the city lad draws me wild on the tune.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
Needs the cars.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Rushing by.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
With the pastes on the stereos to man.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
When I hear the brown bust picking.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Down on them bringing nuts how run from bench of music.
Speaker 8 (52:42):
Yeah, something going backwards backwards and double time picking in
the sword and the strumbling looking tuki starting the strumming.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Out cuts your born living warm.
Speaker 8 (52:56):
And I hit a bum boat picking down room rhythm
bringing us bat from.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
The bust, something going backwards backwards and double town peking
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and the soul and the trumming looking tuck start because
the thing has strumming now.
Speaker 8 (53:33):
Because you won't leave it, And I hit a bum boats.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Picking double from The Bad Chicken boatsmin Mama's Best swinget
TEA
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Kind of sounds that all around the bed.
Hey, you there, thanks for tuning in. You're ready for
another episode of my big Foot Sighting.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, then let's do this.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Seen a bunch of run down, no horse towns where
the church at the backbone, laws and the bow and
the fasting melodies cove in with the bomb man rose
with the roofs run deep beyond the nose of the
busy streets with the songs.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of the South of su Then.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
When I hear the promp porch picking down home rhythm
bringing out I Don't Run from Banjung music.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, if you've had a Bigfoot sighting and I would
like to be a guest, please go to my Bigfoot
Sighting dot com and let me know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Food siding happened in Illinois. My name is Norman Solely.
I'm sixty five years old. I'm working as a farm
hand right now in western Massachusetts. But I grew up
in Washington State and I had an early interest in sasquatch.
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I can remember going and seeing the Patterson Gimlin film
as a first run in a movie theater with my father,
and that led eventually to me getting books by John
Green and Renee Dahinden and Grover Krantz reading what I
could in library is the same old story here from
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a lot of people. I was very interested as a
young teen mid teen. I even wrote an article about
sasquatch from my high school newspaper. And this is all
from Seattle. But we were an outdoorsy family and we
went up into the mountains square a bit. We did
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a lot of camping, et cetera. So I spent a
lot of time in the outdoors and sasquatch was on
my mind, but it wasn't a huge concern.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
But the people around.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Me gradually got to know that I was interested in sasquatch.
People started sending me newspaper articles. I had the file going,
et cetera. And eventually, at about nineteen eighty, the year
nineteen eighty, I decided I was going to go out
and look for sasquatch. And I did this as an
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overnight backpack. We had a cabin in the Washington State
Cascades and I used that as a base camp. I
looked at the top all maps and I kind of
sasquatch dowsed. I found an area that felt right to me,
high Mountain Lake, no trails into it, trails, getting kind
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of close but not into it.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
So this is the Washington State cast Gates.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
A lot of conifers, Douglas hempher, western red cedar, a
little bit very dense woods. Some of the area had
been logged off, but some of the areas I was
approaching this high mountain lake seemed to be essentially old growth,
at least it had been a very long time. There's
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a lot of trees down in the woods, so it
was kind of slow going, clambering over these huge logs
and going out of my way going on a zigzag
essentially what I did on this trip where I was
going to be the Sasquatch investigator. I found a spur
ridge to take me up to this high mountain lake.
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The spur ridge idea was because they tend to be
more free of fallen logs, et cetera. And there's often
game trails on a spur ridge, so it made a
pretty good route for me, and it actually was a
good route. Once I climbed out of the low Valley
about two miles into my hike, I had about two
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miles going up the spur ridge to get to the lake,
or total of about four miles through really thick woods.
The only place that you could really see much of
the sky was at the creek and the spur ridge,
of course, was climbing up above the creek, and it
was bright enough under the trees.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
But a little gloomy.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
But eventually I got up to this lake and it's
a very large lake, and I did find an old
campground fire ring, and I found fish heads in the
water there. That excited me because I had also brought
a fishing pole and I was determined to do some
fishing as long as I climbed into this lake.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
But I set up camp. It's now.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Dinner time, six seven pm. Set up camp, made myself
some dinner, and it it starts raining, and that was
a bummer because I really wanted to explore around the lake.
I was really determined to do that. I wanted to
look for tracks. I wanted to find this elusive mountain ape,
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which is what I believed in at that time. It
was just a dumb, elusive mountain ape that somehow I
was managing to stay away from us all but I
was going to help settle that. But it starts raining
and I retreated to my tent and I did my
usual go to sleep rather than worry about being a
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tent out in the woods. And I actually did that
just fine. Except in the night, while it's still raining,
I woke to the sound of a funny cry. It
was a distant, whiling sound, and since I had been
woken by it, you know, I wasn't quite sure what
did I hear, but I was pretty confident I really
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had heard it.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
But it was definitely at a distance.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It was fairly high pitched too, and long and trailing off.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Go back to sleep.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I wake up in the morning, unzip the rain fly,
and in front of my tent, about four feet away
is a large footprint squished down into the mud in
front of my tent. I could not remember having made
this large footprint in front of my tent. I was
wearing hiking boots. They leave pretty big tracks. The track
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was indistinguishable, but it was right in front of my tent,
so that seemed odd to me. And I'm going to
finish up this story before I take you to Illinois. Eventually,
and my one big foot siding, I start to get
the feeling that I need to leave. And this was
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despite the fact I intended to fish that lake, despite
the fact that the weather cleared up and was very pleasant.
Despite the fact that I was going to look for
Sasquatch evidence. I just had this thing in me saying
it's time to go, and a lot of you listeners
will find that very familiar. I was not conscious about it.
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I did not question it. I did not wonder, hey,
why am I abandoning all my plans and thinking I've
got to leave?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
But that's what I did.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I packed up and I started hiking out, and I
wasn't feeling really the dread or anything. It was just
a sense of time to go and me responding by thinking, Okay,
I'll get going. But I was going fairly fast, and
I was going so fast I didn't want to take
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the time to go down the slightly meandering, slightly longer
spur ridge to get down to the creek bottom. I
just went straight down the mountainside. And this was kind
of messy, lots of down trees, lots of undergrowth, small trees.
I was moving pretty fast. I wasn't running, but I
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was moving pretty fast. But I actually jured my knee
on the way down. And part of what was a
little odd is I kept hearing noises when I entered
my knee on the way down because I had a
bad knee already. I had an acepandage with me and
the last advantage to wrap my knee with and give
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it more support. So I stopped, took off the heavy pack.
I'm doing all that, and I'm hearing twigs breaking uphill
behind me, and I literally think to myself, boy, the
deer and elk sure are clumsy around here.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I laugh about it now.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Because that sound of twigs breaking, et cetera behind people
as they're leaving an area is it is something we
all look for a report. But at the time I
had no clue dealing with a dumb mountainee, and I'm
just thinking, there's deer that, for some reason are behind me.
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You are startling and running away even though they're behind
me instead of being in front of me. We're you
usually surprised the deer or an elk. I continue on
in my rushed way, and I get down to the
creek bottom where I've got a little sky, and that
feeling of needing to leave just completely vanishes.
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I feel fine.
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I am now taking my time, but I don't want
to leave the open air with the blue sky above me,
of the creek. Instead of following the creek in the woods,
I just walk down the creek in the water. I'm
feel in fine, well I'm doing but that's how I'm
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getting back to the trail i'd come in on. I
had three quarters of a mile or so of just
walking in the creek, and I even at one point
I stopped and took off my pack. I saw a
fish in this little creek. It's only like ten feet wide,
lots of shallows, and I saw like a six inch
long brook trout. I caught it with my bare hands,
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and I thought to myself, Hey, sasquatch could do this,
and I'm sure they could. So that's really the end
of that one. I got out no further excitement. But
as years go by, I think back on that trip
and I think about those clumsy deer and elk, and
I think about that track right in front of my
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tent and the long wailing sound that woke me in
the middle of the night, and I suspect I had
a little bit different of an experience than what I
was thinking about at the time. So moving right along,
about nineteen eighty four or so, I had a little
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crisis in my interest in Sasquatch. An article came out
in the Seattle Times about how people had found bigfoot
tracks under their bedroom window on the outskirts of Bellevue, Washington.
Bell v was a place I was very familiar with.
It's a town.
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It's like.
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It's a big town now, it's huge. Back then, it
was pretty big, a lot of office buildings, it's got
a downtown area. And I'm reading this article about how
a bigfoot was looking through a bedroom window or big feet.
It even implied there was different size tracks, and I thought,
what the heck bigfoot is looking through a bedroom window
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in Bellevue, Washington.
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It made no sense.
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And frankly, that was my crisis point. The years of
being told that this was an elusive mountain ape hit
up against them looking through a bedroom window in the suburbs,
and I thought, this makes no sense.
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And I went.
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Into a long period where I did not go out
of my way to look into Sasquatch, quite a long period.
But that didn't stop me from having a couple of
interesting events before I got to that Illinois siding. In
August of nineteen ninety nine, I got involved with a
service work trip to the Pine Ridge Lakota Indian Reservation
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in South Dakota, and that was great. Had wonderful experiences there.
And one of the experiences there was I went to
a place called Kisa Park outside of Manderson, South Dakota.
This is the place that Woody Harrelson is associated with,
where they tried hard to grow a medicinal herb, only
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to have the dea sweep in right before harvest time
two years in a row.
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But what was great there.
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Was I made a connection with the young Lakota teenagers
there and they would come into our camp. All these
little class white people camping in their big grassy field
with trees all around, pinto horses grazing through it.
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It was idyllic.
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But one thing was going on there that I found
odd that I was noticing. Nobody seemed to pay much
attention to it. We were sitting around the campfire talking
to our Lakota friends and there would be a funny
noise and this happened several times coming from the woods
around us.
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And I'll try here.
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To imitate that noise, because I hate it when people
talk about noises and don't even give it a shot.
But it was a little like a crow or a raven.
It was a boh kind of like that. But this
is darkness, and I stopped and I recall one time
I asked one of the young Lakota men, is that
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some of your friends out there? And all I got
was just a blank look in return, no answer, no response,
no nothing. I don't know what that was, but I
found that kind of interesting. So moving right along here
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we get to my big foot siding. Two thousand and
nine or twenty ten, I signed up for a spiritual
retreat at that was hosted at a Catholic retreat center
just forty miles outside of Chicago. Sasquatch was not on
my mind. This was so close to Chicago, it was
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very rural. It was wood lots interspersed with cornfields, pretty
upscale houses, and it was only about two miles away
from Woodstock, Illinois, where a Groundhog Day was filmed. But
that has little to do with this story. So I'm
at the spiritual retreat. It's about five days. We're all
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living inside the retreat center and we're attending breakout sessions.
We've got a cafeteria there. We have really no reason
to leave, but a lot of us would take walks
on the grounds. They had forty acres of wooded grounds.
There's a pond, there was a swamp.
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It was nice.
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There was some trails, and I'd being kind of outdoorsy.
Whenever I would get a break, I would tend to
head outside. So after we had a couple hours of lectures,
one day, we had like a fifteen to twenty minute
break and I made a bee line for the outdoors
along with a few other people. But I had remembered
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I had seen an odd trail opening off of the
mon Lawn area into the woods. It was around a corner.
You couldn't even see the start of this trail from
the building, which was a huge Catholic retreat center and
including a church within the.
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Center.
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This opening was off to the side. You couldn't see
the retreat center, and it just seemed odd.
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But it was big.
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It was like four feet wide and really tall, no
branches up very high, and I thought, I'm going to
take this trail, so I did. I took this trail,
But what it did is it took me in a
big loop back around to the main trail system, but
up a slight hill, slight sloping ground, So I was
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looking down on this main trail. Now, these were deep
deciduous woods primarily, but they were fully leafed out old
old trees, chestnuts, maples, ash beaches, that sort of thing.
Very little undergrowth because the overstory was so thick. But
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it was gloomy in there, so much overgrowth. It was
gloomy even though it was the middle of the day.
So i come around on this trail and I'm in
the spiritual retreat mode. I'm thinking peace, love and happiness,
groovy thoughts in my head, not really thinking about much
else except maybe to try to get ahead of the
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rest of the walkers. And I could hear them coming
below me, still behind me, but along this main trail.
So I'm walking along and I'm really deep in my head,
and I only vaguely noticed that I can see a
figure below me that doesn't seem to be one of
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my co retreat members. It seems to be somebody watching
my retreat members. And I'm still not really paying attention,
but it's stuck in my head.
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The movements this thing was making.
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So there's lots of undergrowth, not lots of undergrowth, there's
minimal undergrowth, but there's lots of deadfall, fallen logs, et cetera.
What I'm seeing is really just only about five foot six,
And what I found immediately odd about it was the
outline of this figure at about one hundred and fifty
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feet away is fuzzy. It's not a distinct edge. It's fuzzy,
and it's black. And there's no like change in coloration
between cuffs of sleeves and hand or shirt and pants,
pants and shoes. It's just uniformly black, fuzzy, five foot six,
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light framed, slim, normal human proportions from what I was noticing,
had a neck, had a round head like human shaped head.
But what it is doing it's high stepping carefully through
the debris on the ground, and its head is moving
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back and forth on its shoulders as if it's trying
to see around tree trunks, etc. It is spying on
the other people walking towards it. I could tell it
was literally spying on them. It was trying to get
a better view. It was very interested in those people.
At this point, I'm starting to pay a little bit
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more attention and my mind is starting to think, oh
wait a second, this doesn't quite make sense. And I'm
watching it and it kind of walks perpendicular to the
path of the oncoming people, pass the trail that they're
coming on, and it passes from my point of view
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behind the trunk of one of these large trees, like
a thirty inch in diameter trunk. It appears to pass
behind that trunk and it never comes out again.
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That's it.
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And at that point I'm kind of wondering, wait a second,
what did I just see and why did it walk
behind this tree and never come out from behind it?
And look, I literally this is where my head was.
I literally talked that up to a spiritual experience, which
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maybe it was, but I talked it up to some
form that was maybe out of body, some sort of
spiritual manifestation that was interested in the energy of the retreat,
watching the people on the retreat. And that's where my
head was at for years about that sighting for years.
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If I tell it these days to people who are
in the Sasquatch world, they're like, well, duh. I was
a young Sasquatch at the time. I had no idea
what I saw. I was not thinking Sasquatch forty miles
from Illinois.
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It was.
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Several years later before I started hearing about people seeing
sasquatch even closer to Chicago than I was, But at
that time I hadn't. So you might want to know
what turned me around, what made me reframe that event. Well,
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this is where some of the weird stuff comes in,
and for me, there is frankly a fair amount of
weird stuff. The pairanormal. In twenty eleven or twenty twelve,
I had moved to Alaska Interior, Alaska, close to Denali
National Park and Preserve, the park that has Mount McKinley
in it, the tallest mountain of North America.
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And I was living.
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By myself in a one room cabin. I was reinventing myself.
I had actually lived in Alaska in the old days,
and I was so happy to be back. But one
night I had a dream. And I know, hearing about
dreams is about the most boring thing ever, So I'm
just going to quickly tell you the sasquatch part of
the dream. Somebody had another man had taken me to
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the top of a canyon. We're looking down in the canyon.
There is like a rock shelter, a horizontal opening into
the canyon wall, much like places in the Southwest. In fact,
It even had that Southwest feel to it, but it
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was almost like a more of a cave opening rather
than just an overhang, and that there are literally ten
Sasquatch pairs lined up in front of this rock shelter,
this cave opening. And the man I'm with tells me.
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He explains to me that these are pairs that mate
for life.
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And I stay.
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Back to him in this dream, and keep in mind,
I haven't been thinking about Sasquatch much at all for years,
I say back to him in my dream. If what
you say is true, then everything we thought we knew
about Sasquatch.
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Is wrong.
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And then I woke up that warning and I thought, huh,
everything we thought we knew about Sasquatch is wrong. And
I thought, well, I'm going to see what's out there
now and brand new world of internet, at least for
me as far as Sasquatch is concerned. I got online
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and I started hearing things, and the things I was
hearing was not pointing at elusive mountain ape. It was
pointing at something else a bit more complicated. But I'm
in Alaska, right, I was literally living somewhere where it
gets minus forty.
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In the winter.
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So of course sasquatch does not make sense at minus
forty in interior Alaska, we're talking an area where twenty
foot tall black spruce, maybe thirty forty foot tall white spruce,
a little bit taller down in some of the creek bottoms,
a lot of aspen, some cottonwood, willows, birch. I was
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living on the margin between tiger and tundra, which is
that type of low forest, and tundra is open muskeg,
labrador te sphagnum moss, berries, lots of berries, pretty harsh climate,
a huge growth of green in the summer, which is
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about five months of green time, seven months of winter.
It's a harsh climate. So I'm not thinking sasquatch really
except looking into sasquatch. Obsessed with sasquatch, learning everything I can.
So where I'm living, a couple of funny things did happen.
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One is, there was a few local dog teams, and
I was near one dog team, and occasionally a dog
team would just go nuts, barking and carrying on for
a significant amount of time. And I once found one
of the metal dog bowls, like one hundred and fifty
feet away from this dog team and I thought, well,
that's a lot how.
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To get out here.
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Also, there was a couple incidents of very persistent owl
calling when it was light out, but this is Alaska.
It can be pretty darn light out at eleven at night.
But I just remember a I think barn owl is
what it was, just going on and on.
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It seemed odd.
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I had moved up there for a woman and the
old story, and fairly quickly at the start of the
next summer I moved in with her. And as I
moved in, she warned me that the house makes noises.
And I asked her, what do you mean it makes noises?
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And she says, well, it just makes noises like popping
noises and stuff at night. Apparently it doesn't make the
noises during the day. It just makes the noises at night. Okay,
well that's interesting, and I say I thank her for
the warning. I got to tell you a little bit
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more about this house. I moved in before she had
any running water. This is rural Alaska. There was an
outhouse there and hauled water and five gallon jugs to
start with. We eventually did get a pressurized system with
a bathroom with shower, et cetera. But when I moved in,
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my partner was still taking showers outdoors. And kids don't
listen to this part. But my partner was an attractive woman,
and she had a place back behind the cabin on
this five acre lot in a subdivision of five and
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ten acre lots. But she had a very private place
where she would put up the old sun shower hoisted
up in the trees above her and take an outdoor shower.
And that's cool. That's what I started doing when I
was there too. That was the way to take a
shower for a few months there. Not too far from
this outdoor shower location, behind a grove of trees inside
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of both the many picture windows of the living room
and the shower was this beaten down area, kind of
shielded by some spruce trees, but with a view of
both of those locations. And I go to my partner
and I say, why is the ground all traveled over here?
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And she said, I don't know. People used to camp
around here and stuff. I don't know why the grounds traveled.
At that point, I was starting to have my suspicions.
But how do you tell your partner that you think
maybe she's had an audience I never told her my suspicion.
I just helped get the indoor shower set up quickly
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one night, leading more credence to my theory. Here we
are sitting on the futon watching a movie. We are
facing a window at the other end of the great room,
which wasn't that great. It's maybe twenty feet away from us,
and there was suddenly a terrific boom against the exterior
wall right there. It seemed to be right under that
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window that was facing us.
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Me, being an.
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Alpha male at the time, in charge of my woman,
I rush outdoors, and I wasn't immediately thinking sasquatch. I
rush outdoors and there is nothing. I can't find a
sound as sign of anything, nothing disappearing in the woods.
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Nothing.
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But I was left with an impression when I heard
that banging, I felt that something was not happy to
find me there. And I think also my reaction maybe
was a surprise.
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Instead of.
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Drawing drapes or something like that, me rushing outside, that
was pretty aggressive. We didn't have any more problems. In fact,
the house stopped making noises, no more noises.
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I don't know.
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I have my suspicions, but I couldn't find any marks
on the side of the house. Couldn't find any tracks.
One thing that was there, there was a place where
trees apparently had been pulled over to make kind of
a blind. Living trees had been pulled over and had made.
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A wall.
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With a large spruce at the back about three feet
a room to stand or sit in, and then the
road right out in front about fifty feet away or so.
I suspect that was made when they were putting in
the road. They had to do a cut in a
bank there, and there would have been bulldozers going back
and forth, back and forth. I suspect something made that
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blind just to watch the entertainment of the heavy equipment.
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I don't know though.
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Another thing in that subdivision, that same rural Alaska subdivision,
and I will say this is just north of the
Alaska Range near Heally, Alaska. One day I'm walking along
the road and I can hear the most feeble rooster.
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It was pathetic.
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Once again, I'll try this, Downd. It was like cock,
I do it, I'll.
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Do it was really bad. It was pathetic.
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It was coming down a long driveway and I'm thinking, oh,
they must have chickens down there, and you know. I
even stop and I'm looking down the driveways trying to
spot the chickens. And it's rural Alaska. There's a few
people with chickens, but it's kind of rare because you're
looking at twelve dollars a dozen eggs with the heating
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you have to do, and the Fort Knox you have
to build around them because the bears literally we get
grizzly bears in that subdivision. But there's got to be
if there's a rooster, there's chickens. I ran across somebody
who was friends with the person down that long driveway
and I asked them about it, and he looked at
me funny, and he said, they don't have chickens. So ironically,
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where this happened was right across the road from where
a small town Monsters film crew was to come and
stay in two or three years from that time. It
was right across the road, and I was about able
to tell them about that incident. In the woods there,
I began finding peculiar log arrangements. One was a giant
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asterisk of logs laying on the ground, and I was
hiking with my skeptical partner at the time and She
looked at it and said, it looks like somebody made that,
and it really did. It was very precisely spaced, et cetera.
And it was at the mouth of really a minor drainage,
which I came to call Ape Canyon in my head.
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And I'm a little embarrassed about that. It's kind of
rude to use the word ape, but I did. I
called it that. It was a place that made me uneasy.
I didn't really like to go in there, but where
this was was. I eventually bought some land off the
road system, and I began I'm building a cabin, and
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I went down into that a canyon drainage more than once,
and it just it felt weird. So eventually I tried
to find a way to not go into that and
still get to my property in the cabin I was building. Unfortunately,
when I switched to the other side of the creek,
I found what I called the no trespassing sign. I
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found two broken spruces laying directly across the moose trail.
That was the logical way for me to start the
trip up to my property in cabin, and for I
still call that the no trespassing sign. I never moved
it because I'm superstitious. I just step over it and
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I literally asked for permission to walk through, and I
asked for a safe passage. And I have been doing
that for years. Right now, I'm not living in Alaska,
but that was my routine. I'd step over that and
I'd say, please allow me, say passage on mind my manners,
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et cetera.
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That's a short version also in that area.
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I one time did get a little into that Ape
Canyon area on the way down before I established my trail,
and I found half a dog. And I don't know
if thats sasquatch or not. This was a small dog,
maybe a twenty pound dog, curly gray hair. It was
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just the back end of the dog. It was like
the dog from below the ripped cage on. What was
odd was that was a pretty clean cut. It wasn't ripped,
it wasn't torn. It seemed more cut. There wasn't like
vertebrae hanging out. There was a little bit of blood
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under it as I flipped it over, not a lot.
I don't think it died there. But this is a dog.
About a mile and a half as the hiker hikes
from the nearest highway or building homes of any kind.
I did call the nearest landowner. He said, no missing dog.
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I called that half dog ridge from then on, can't
explain it. Don't know what that half dog was about.
Somebody said maybe it was dropped by an eagle. I
think that would have been probably too much weight for
an eagle.
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I don't know.
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Also had tongue clacking sounds. One time leaving the cabin,
I had a dog that was great for being my.
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Ears and nose.
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This dog was a puller, so I would do what
we call walk during with this dog. I would put
a harness on the dog and attach the dog to
a line around my waist. And the dog would actually
helped me quite a bit, pulling me up the hills,
down the hills, sometimes down the hills way too fast.
But this dog was also my early warning system. And
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as we stepped out of the cabin this time, immediately
there was what I call a tongue clock and I'll
try to make that sound now like that. But Louder
and the dog and I our heads both swiveled to
the exact same place, about eighty feet away from us,
the top of the very low ridge right in front
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of us, well actually off to our left. We both
knew exactly where that sound was coming from. I could
not see anything. It could have been a raven sound, possibly,
I don't know. What was a little uncomfortable for me
is me and the dog had to move closer to
where that sound came from in order to head down
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the trail and head back to the highway way where
my truck was parked. About two point six mile walk
by the way.
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So we walked that two.
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Point six miles deep trees, creek bottom, A little bit
more life and lush along that creek bottom.
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Berries are the berries, blueberries, raspberries a few, so.
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A little bit more life down in there. Some big
trees too, big timber. We get out of the alders
that are along the highway and step out on the highway,
and there's one more sound as we step out on
the highway. It completely booked bookended that hike, and I
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did not feel any sense of being followed, of being observed.
But when I heard that second tongue clack, it felt
like I'd had an escort. And I don't know what
the tongue clock was about, but I felt like I
had an escort. So there's a couple of paranormal type
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things that happened to me at that cabin, and I
like to talk about those now. So going up to
that cabin, the more I was hearing about sasquatch, the
more sign I was finding along the way, and I
did find a little bit more. I'd be again to
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become conscious of walking alone on that two point six
mile trail and what I might be sharing the woods with.
But keep in mind, this is an area with black bear,
with grizzly bear, with wolves, kyotes lengths, so a person
hiking alone, they're on alert. Anyhow, I'm making noise every
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fifty feet or so, calling out. I don't want to
sneak up on anything. It's really easy for the while
life to avoid me. I've got my dog, he's my
early warning system. I can tell where something is, although
half the time the things concerned about is a squirrel,
so it's a lot of false alarms. But one of
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the times I get to the cabin, I walk into
the cabin and as usual, I head for the thermometer
to see what the temperature is inside. I'm also thinking
the thoughts I had while I was walking up there,
and I had to sudden epiphany as I'm stepping into
the cabin, and I realized, Hey, if Sasquatch wanted to
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drive people like me out of the woods back to
population centers.
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It would be very easy.
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Throw a few rocks at the roof, bang on windows. Man,
We're out of there. The terror would just be so complete.
We would just leave the cabins and we'd head back.
I'm thinking that literally, as I lean over slightly to
read the temperature on the thermometer. I read the temperatures,
I'm having this thought about how Sasquatch could drive us
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out of the back country.
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Turned my head.
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The thermometer pops off the wall. It falls off the wall,
lands at my feet. As I'm having that thought, I think, well,
that is very interesting that thermometer never before fell off
the wall, and never after fell off the wall. Seismically
active area. Earthquakes don't get it off the wall, winds
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don't get it off the wall. But something right there
right then had to pop off the wall. I put
it back on its nail on the wall. Never happened again.
Another thing that happened there was right at that same
location in the cabin, and this is silly. I had
the solar system. There had a way to charge batteries.
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I had a four double A battery charger that I
was trying to empty, and I boggled it and I
managed to knock the batteries out of it, and they
go flying all over the place, four double A batteries.
And I spent twenty minutes trying to find those four batteries.
I found three of them. One of them. It was
like it had just gone into a different dimension.
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I could not.
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Find that battery. To save my life, I finally gave up.
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I was literally.
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Checking my socks, I'm checking my boots, I'm checking in
my pant pockets, I'm emptying things, I'm moving furniture. Could
not find the missing battery. Two weeks later, I come
back to the cabin. There is a double A battery
laying on the ground outside my cabin, which is fifteen
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horizontal feet away from where I dropped the batteries through
a door that had been closed. But it is laying
out there in the dirt, very obvious. I spotted it
very quickly. I don't know what that's about. There seems
to me to be somewhat of a playful aspect of
this phenomenon, and I enjoy it. I am literally laughing
(43:12):
out loud. Sometimes there might be a nervous, slightly hysterical
edge to it. Another odd thing that happened to me
in that cabin I had a loft there. I would
sleep in the loft and a sleeping bag, very comfortable.
I would sleep very well. I like being a bit
off the ground. I wake up one morning adding a
(43:38):
very nice sleep, and I, do you know a stretch
and a uh like that kind of thing, And it
is immediately followed by the same sound from directly below me.
It sounds like me, but I'm done stretching. It's like
an echo of me. It's a great imitation. Doesn't even
(44:00):
really sound like an imitation. It sounds like me underneath
me making the same sound. And here's an odd thing.
I'm not alarmed. I'm not freaking out. I get dressed
kind of at my normal pace. I start heading down
the very steep ladder stairs, and as I'm going down
(44:22):
the stairs, I am like craning to look into the
kitchen under that loft area. There's nothing there. Of course,
the door is still latch closed. It was latched from
the inside. I literally got on my hands and knees
looking on that rug that's under the loft on the
first floor, seeing if there was any hears or anything
that I honestly did, could not find a thing. I
(44:47):
cannot explain that, just some of the funny things that
happens to people. To me, this phenomenon seems to be
aware of you being a of the phenomenon, and you
come under a little greater scrutiny when you're looking into it.
So be careful of those of you listening. If you're
(45:09):
getting into this, you're starting to go out looking for
sign looking for track, looking for stick structures.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
It may lead to more. It may indeed.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
So July of twenty twenty three, my son sends me
a video. He lives in Colorado. He lives in Boulder County.
He likes the mountain bike. He saw some funny things
in the woods. He sends me a video. They look
like teepees in the woods along this trail, lodgepole pine
logs like teepees. Well, my son has a wife and
(45:46):
a daughter, which means I've got a granddaughter.
Speaker 5 (45:48):
So of course I'm.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Visiting soon and I beg him to take me up
there where he took that video. I ended up finding
thirteen stick structures in those woods along that trail and
off the trail. Some of them were up to like
one hundred and fifty feet off the trail. A couple
of them seem to have been former tps that have
been pushed over. You could see the log distribution. It
(46:13):
looked like a TP without the canvas pushed over. I
made a presentation based upon those stick structures. One of
them was a triple TP. The easy thing to say is, well,
hikers are making these that triple TP arrangement. I remember
(46:35):
in my presentation, I type in like the Denver Airport.
I don't know if any of you have been to
the Denver Airport, but it looked like tps blended together,
and I thought that is just really remarkable for somebody
goofing around in the woods. I think for that one
I counted eighty different logs, none of them huge, up
(46:58):
to like twenty feet long, logical light logs. Humans definitely
could have made it.
Speaker 5 (47:04):
But would they would they take.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
The time along a trail. There's no views or anything.
There's no lake right there, It's just along a wooded trail.
I could see them adding to it like somebody putting
a couple more sticks in once they see it could
have happened naturally. But I found thirteen things along the
woods along that trail in the woods, And if Vick
(47:30):
wants to, I'll send him a link to that stick
structure presentation and he may include it at the bottom
of this video for you to take a look at.
In August of twenty twenty three, a friend of mine
who had a daylight siding in Ganali National Park of
a sasquatch moving quadripeatedly along the park road within side
(47:55):
of the park road, he took me to a stick
structure within sight of the center. To me, this is hilarious.
It should be part of their natural history presentations, something
that a ranger takes you out. It is a stick
structure outside of the visitor center in the woods there
and what it looks like to me is an old,
(48:16):
broken down playpen. I call it the playpen. It was
bigger than a human playpen, but it was teardrop shaped.
It has no entrance. It's a thick innerweaving of like
up to one inch tree branches, trunks, et cetera. And
my explanation, frankly, is way back when it was a
(48:39):
place to put an infant and be able to come
back a few hours later and grab your baby again.
This has been very interesting telling you about this stuff.
I'm going to wrap it up just by saying I
live in western Massachusetts now. When I first came to
visit here, I just was very skeptical that my hobby
(49:00):
of sasquatch would have any output or any focus here.
I asked the people I was coming to perhaps work
with if I could explore their many acres of woods,
and wouldn't you know it, I found a lean to
structure in their woods that they did not know about.
(49:21):
And since then, I've found a whole lot of twig breaks,
tree breaks, etc. I've had a gifting side vandalized by
something very big. I've had bark stripped off of trees
right next to where I take breaks. It just goes
on and on, Folks, It never ends. This doesn't make
(49:45):
sense as an elusive mountain ape.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
It just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I ask you all to open your minds to other possibilities.
I cannot tell you what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (49:56):
I have my suspicions but I think the best rule
of thumb for me and perhaps for you two is
to treat whatever we're dealing with as an uncontacted tribe,
a tribe that generally does not want to be contacted.
They're staying out of the way deliberately. In fact, I
(50:18):
think they get kind of irritated by us chasen after them.
So be respectful, ask for permission, apologize where you've overstepped.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
So thank you very much for listening everybody.
Speaker 7 (50:34):
Well, that's it for tonight's show. If you've had a
big Foot siding and would like to be a guest,
please go to my Bigfoot Siding dot com and let
us know. Thanks for listening, Have a great night.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Seen a bunch of run down now host towns with
the Church is the Backbone, lows and the Bow and
the pasting melodies, coove in with the bomb man Rose
with a ruse Rundee on the nose of.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
The busy streets, with the songs.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Of the South of Su.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Then I mean I hear the prompboat picking down home rhythm,
bringing out had a run from Banjung music. Yeah, the
sound of a memory brings me back to the bluegrass
playing them maerdaddy Jack.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
It's become many been through.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
It, getting through the day on scrubs and Skaggs, booking
name bales through this Tennessee jams.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
There's no the way that I do it.
Speaker 5 (51:41):
And I hear the plump poach picking.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
Down home rhythm bringing nut had over run from ben
Jong music.
Speaker 8 (51:50):
Yeah, so backwards backwoods and double time looking to the
sword in.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
The struggle look and tup stuff, don't they hit the
strumming out cut your born.
Speaker 8 (52:02):
Living and I hear the bum boat picking rhythm bringing
naso from from.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Ben the city lad draws me wild on the tune.
Speaker 5 (52:26):
Needs the cars.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Rushing by.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
With the pastes on the stereos to man.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
When I hear the brown bust picking.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Down on them bringing nuts how run from bench of music.
Speaker 8 (52:42):
Yeah, something going backwards backwards and double time picking in
the sword and the strumbling looking tuki starting the strumming.
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Out cuts your born living warm.
Speaker 8 (52:56):
And I hit a bum boat picking down room rhythm
bringing us bat from.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
The bust, something going backwards backwards and double town peking
(53:28):
and the soul and the trumming looking tuck start because
the thing has strumming now.
Speaker 8 (53:33):
Because you won't leave it, And I hit a bum boats.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Picking double from The Bad Chicken boatsmin Mama's Best swinget
TEA
Speaker 1 (53:41):
Kind of sounds that all around the bed.
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