I REFUSE to watch the Donkey Kong BANANZA Nintendo Direct | Nontendo Podcast #141

Nintendo just had their DONKEY KONG BANANAZA Nintendo Direct, but we REFUSE to watch it... here's why.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And take three. Take three to go live with the
Non Tendo podcast. Baby, let's go one hundred and forty one.
It is a beautiful day outside. We have Bengal with
us here in the studio. Nice to have you here, Bingle.
It's great to be What a pleasant, fun experience we've
been having trying to go live with the show over
the last twenty four hours. What didn't you say? It's

(00:23):
been a fantastic experience. Did you expect to have to
spend the night when you got here yesterday? No? Did
you even bring a spare change of clothes? No?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
No, But he.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Stayed anyway because he's an absolute chat. We have a
heck of a story to tell you about the night
we just had to spend together, huddle together for warmth
because we had no power for twelve hours. I mean,
all we could do was stripped down shirtless. No, I'm
not flying, that's lying, that's kidding. I'm getting too funny
with it, guys. We have a lot of stories to
tell you about why this episode was so painful to

(00:57):
get live. We even just tried to go live a
second ago and we had no audio. So this is
the third attempt.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, I'm losing my mind. Also, that has no audio either.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, I'm hearing music. I just kept the actual music
going the whole time. Really, yeah, I kept the show
music going. I'll bring it out now. We'll stop yelling
as well. Sorry that Why did that have no audio?
That was supposed to have audio? How many times Bingal
did I test that that was working with audio before

(01:43):
we went live? Roughly, I don't I have like six,
five times, seven, so many times, an insane amount of times.
All right, it's just me and Bingal. Bengal doesn't usually
run all of the bells and whistles, so I wanted
to take full control today. Which when I decided to
do that too, I also had a co host with me.

(02:05):
I had Kimberly with me. I think I'm coming through
on your microphone as well. Here we go now I
think I fixed it. Yeah, it was a little bit
of an hennach o. Oh dude, god damn it. We
love that go. Yeah, Kimberly was supposed to help, but
that was because you know, Thursdays, as we talked about
six pm, Kim's mom comes look after the baby. She's
not here right now, and she's not coming today. She

(02:26):
doesn't come on Fridays, so it's just me and Bingle.
Last night, we were all set up ready to go,
literally five point thirty locked in Kim was getting ready
to come downstairs and then out of nowhere. So from
from Bingle's window there we looked behind us and we saw,
like crazy, it looked like there was like a tornado outside. Well,

(02:47):
here's the thing apparently there what so I random It
was over in half an hour, but a tornado hit county,
tore down a ton of power line, trees fell down,
cars were crushed like it was. We went and because
the power was out for twelve hours essentially, and we
had to go out and get dinner, we drove out,

(03:09):
Me and Bingle went to go get some food and
it was like the streets were just littered with trees
that had fallen over. Power lines were down. We were
charging our switches. We were charging our switches, our switch
to s and our phones in the car because they
were all dying by that point. We were running low.
We were running low, which we can talk about that too,
and all roads were blocked off, sirens and fire engines

(03:30):
were blair. Every direct felt felt post apocalyptic. It was
very bizarre. Yeah, And I was telling both these people
that like Bingal and Kim, that I've never been in
a blackout for more than an hour. Like I've lost
power before, but like for an hour, I've never lost
it for half a day.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
It was out from six pm till four a m.
Till four am.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
We were literally sat in the candle light because we
had no I had one little battery light that died
after a couple hours. We were sat by candlelight, playing switches,
playing Smash Bros. Playing small So okay, so here's what
we did. So I gotta do more camera cutting. I
gotta get my finger on the trigger more. Sorry, Bingle.
So here's what we did. We uh at like six

(04:11):
to thirty seven, when we realized the power probably wasn't
coming back on to do the episode. We sat down
upstairs with Kim because Kim's mum was still here, and
we just started playing on our three switches local Mario
Kart World, and you know, we were having a blast.
It was fun. Our switches were all at a half
percent to begin with. Yeah, man, we felt that battery

(04:31):
quick though, because we had maybe we did three or
four knockout tours and suddenly we were all on like
forty fifty percent batters. It was gone dream depleting so quickly,
and it does not charge fast, no, no, and we
had no way of charging it. No. So once we
all hit about thirty thirty five percent, we got scared
and stopped playing because we were like, is this all

(04:51):
we're going to get for the whole night? What if
I want to play ten minutes of cyberpunk later, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was like before bed, I played a little bit
of Mario Cot Yes, thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, that's it was. It was crazy. So we went
for a drive. We just drove around for a while,
charging our switches in the car, deciding on a meal,
which deciding on a meal, and we managed to get
like thirty forty percent on our switches. Yeah, I got
it got up to like sixty seventy. And then we
came back and we played some Fantasy Life Eye together
local multiplayer for like forty minutes forty five and then

(05:26):
it was like almost it was almost dead again. So
I got to say, in a real world situation where
we couldn't charge our switches, the switch to does not
last long. And like we literally did not get far
into the night last night before we had to stop playing.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Fantasy life is not like super graphically intense, No, not
at all.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
And also we dimmed our switches to the lowest setting.
We turned off one hundred and twenty, we turned off HDR,
we were turned off everything. We ran, yeah, to try
and squeeze battery out of it, and it was still
it was rain ray.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
I mean the wireless communication could have been draining it too, obviously,
but that's true.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, but it's fantasy life. It's fantasy life. We ended
up getting saved by the switch one. Ironically, Yeah, the
switch one came in clutch yesterday because at some point
we realized, you know, we have no power, our phones
are dying, our switched too is are dead and this
that you can't see it. You can see the corner
of it behind me. But I have a switch one

(06:21):
switch one Kiosk that I bought, and I've been in
the background of my videos recently. I've had my switch
one docked playing YouTube on the screen, so.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I have some b roll behind the me. Is that way
I see you on YouTube? Sometimes? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay, yeah, So my switch one was fully charged because
it's been sat in my kiosk. So we ended up
playing Smash Brothers for like an hour or two. Yeah,
tabletop mode with with our controllers and what was it
at the end, after one hundred percent we got down
to what seventy eighty eighty Yeah after an hour, that's

(06:55):
pretty good. The switch one is clutch, Yeah, the switch
one came in clutch switch one battery oh led back.
We could have had another four hours, I think. So
that was our night. And yeah, people in Chad are saying,
thank goodness, your guys are safe. Yeah really actually honestly
like yeah, people as I said, had their cars damage.
Just thankful that we were all at home. Also thankful
Kim's mum made it home well also she had just

(07:17):
got here to take care of the baby. Oh yeah,
and then the storm hit so she was almost driving
in it. Well.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Also for people in Chat the storm hit like there
was a torneaighto old couple counties down and then to
top it off, there was seventy.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Mile per hour winds. Yeah, gust of seventy. Like we
had bins out last night because it was Bin's day.
Bin was down the street, like I had to go
and fetch it. And everyone's bins blew away. Yeah, it
was crazy, Like when we looked out that window and
then went upstairs and looked. Yeah, you couldn't see outside
because the rain was pelting the window. It was just
it was like a greenish gray, like just mess outside. Damn,

(07:57):
you couldn't see anything. Shout out to the work that
got the power back.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, like within twenty four hours, because I was not
expecting it to come back on.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I was was expecting it to be off today as well. Yeah,
And shout out to Bengal, who the plan was for
him to go home yesterday obviously, but once we realized
it wasn't happening, he was like, f at our stay. Yeah,
hopefully we can do it in the morning. Yeah. Yeah,
I had faith. I had some faith, which is good
because if you didn't, I'd be doing it on my
own right now, or I would have to have just
waited till the weekend. But you don't want to come

(08:26):
down for nothing? Me, Yeah, I like to come down.
It's just no, I said, you didn't want to come
down for nothing? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean not nothing.
We you know, we played like half an hour I
switch to before the batteries died. Yeah, I mean we
also had this storm bonding moment. Okay, yeah, we had
to you know, as I said, get naked and huddle
together for one Yeah. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
It was really cold in the summer of June. It
actually was. The temperature, thankfully.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Was nice. It was nice. Although today and the whole
weekend it's like ninety five degrees and we got a
heat warning this morning. Really imagine if the power wasn't on,
well do with a little baby, little stinky Joe, you
would have to throw ice. We would have had to
have gone just driving all day with the eck on them.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
All right.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Anyway, Sorry, that was a crazy night. So to be
on a little bit of topic here because we have
a lot of things to talk about. Also, I didn't
do this. I didn't do this for me. Look at that.
You see this? Oh you see what that says down there? Yeah,
what does it say? It says wood Hawker. Yeah it does.
That's really cool. Now, now, fry biscuits, I want you

(09:28):
to look at this and tell me what this says. Oh,
it says you made it, buddy. Hell yeah. I even
changed out the X to Twitch because I know you
don't use Twitter. At all. Yeah, which is good. I
stay off for Twitter. I wish I wish I did.
I stay off at this point. I literally only use

(09:48):
it for work, as I say, but I wish I
didn't have to. I mean to be fair.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I turn it on on my PC to share links,
and but I don't look what the hell's going on it.
I just post a link and then exit out.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm out. We got to get into all of it.
People know how I feel about that. All right, here
we go, Donkey Kong Bonanza direct coming right at you.
Seventeen minutes of Donkey Kong Bonanza. That's all I'm willing
to watch. That's enough for me. That's enough. That's enough.
That's enough. I think we got enough out of that

(10:21):
without getting too many spoilers. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
a perfect amount. That's a perfect amount. So I don't
know what does everybody think of what we just saw
of the Donkey Kong director. The title of this episode
is something about me refusing to watch it. I don't
know how many people are on the same boat. Actually,
I'd love to know in chat. In fact, I'm going
to do a poll in chat if I can of

(10:42):
how many people are avoiding watching this direct I legitimately
have not seen it. Bengal, have you seen it? No?
Tell me why. I don't want to get spoiled by anything. Okay,
there's like there's not as many first party games on
the Switch right now. Then I'm really and I'm really
really excited for Donkey Kong and I don't want to
be spoiled. That's it. They usually show too much. Yeah, actually,

(11:04):
the consensus that I heard from people online was that
they did show too much and they ruined it. I'm
so happy that I didn't watch it. So here's the thing,
and I'm being dead serious. I don't want to watch it.
I refuse to watch it because it's twenty minutes of
a game that I know that I want to play,
that I'm excited to play that at right now. I've

(11:26):
played the first twenty minutes of the game at the
Nintendo New York event, But other than that, I have
no idea what the game has installed it. It didn't
spoil any story, beeat or anything like that for you.
And this is like probably the most exciting game of
the year right now, at least for Switch that I'm
looking forward to that in Metroid that Metri. Yeah, I
don't really want to do a deep dive. Here's the
thing that people don't know, Bingle, These youngins don't know

(11:49):
all right. I grew up in a time where I
discovered okerin or a time by my mom going into
Blockbuster and asking the guy working there, what's a good game,
and the guy was like, your son might like Okarina blessed.
I'd never played this guy, blessed. I'd never played a
Zouda before I discovered Smash Brothers at the same Blockbuster,

(12:11):
just by going in seeing that link. The guy that
I liked now was in this game called Smash Brothers.
I had no idea what it was. I took it home.
I'm like, oh, oh, it's a fighting game. At the
time too, I didn't know who Samus was. I I
think i'd seen Kirby well, to be fair, I think
Smash Bros. Opened a lot of characters for me too. Yeah,
that I would have never hear a lot of people. Yeah,

(12:33):
obviously I knew Mario and Luigi and Donkey Kong and
stuff like that. But uh, that was me walking into
a game store and picking a game off the shelf
and then falling in love with it. And I feel
like these days with video games and movies were over
exposed to like the trailer, Like it's a bunch of
movie trailer these days. Yeah, and they'll show you the
whole movie. They'll show you every beat of the movie,

(12:53):
all the exciting beats. Yeah, and I watched it. I'm like,
I don't have to watch that movie anymore. I got
I got the synaps right, and I'm not excited to
watch the movie anyway. And that's how I feel about
the directs, Like the Mario Kart direct. I think I
watched it because it's Mario Kart.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's like, yeah, well, plus, you only really experienced America
when you're playing it. Even if you see someone playing it,
you don't actually experience it.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You're playing it. You kind of already knew what to expect.
But also, like I was watching the direct to see
if they were going to justify the eighty dollars was
another reason I was watching. Actually, yeah, that's a good point,
and they didn't this one. I'm just I'm so in.
I played the first twenty minutes at Nintendo. It was awesome.
I can't wait. And you know, I made a conscious
choice not to watch it. But every time I open TikTok,

(13:38):
or I open Instagram reels, or I open Twitter, I
keep seeing screenshots and little snippets and videos and information
about it, and I've legitimately gotten spoilers. I know some
things about the game. I wish I didn't know me too.
I think the obvious one that we can talk about
because like there's an absolutely no way of avoiding it.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
True is that while initially the market I should have
brought it up, but I might actually try and bring
it up quickly. Initially the marketing had a little rock guy. Yeah,
that was alongside Donkey Kong. Well apparently I know, you know,
you can't get away from it. It was Pauline. Yeah,
it's like kid thirteen, fourteen year old Pauline. I might

(14:20):
I scrolled through reels, TikTok whatever it is, Boom spoiled
in I know, and like, you know, how cool it
would have been, and like I know, there's no way
of avoiding it. And to some extent, like you know,
they wanted to put her on the cover, so like you,
you were always going to get spoiled. But to some extent,
imagine if they had really just committed to this right

(14:43):
this cover art, and then you play the game and
then you f find out it's Pauline in the game.
It's like a twist. I kind of like that cover
art more. I don't because I actually always looked at
this rock thing and I'm like, what is that? Why
do I care about that little rock thing? Okay, that's great,
it was kind of it's it is kind of a
cool thing that they did. It's kind of like, uh,

(15:07):
I don't let me try. I'm trying to cut cameras here.
It's kind of like what they did with Thunderbolts. How
you know, the movie thunder Oh at least it came
out first, but the movie was cool Thunderbolts, and then
the movie came out, and then they changed the title
to New Avengers because of a twist that happens in
the movie, which you know isn't a spoiler and it
is obviously ruined at this point. But the new cover

(15:29):
art for the box art is I can't find the
game case, but this you get. The point is this
now with Poline hanging on, which is way it's way better.
There's so much personality in it, so that's the biggest
thing and then there was one other thing when I
was scrolling through uh TikTok that I had ruined for me.

(15:50):
And I don't know if I even want to tell
you what it is or if you can just go
for it. You want to come along for this ride.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
It'll it'll happen. I'll get spoiled, you know, it might
as well just tell me.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
So apparently there's a skill tree for Donkey Kong. Okay, yeah,
I know, I know, Wait, I know, I wish I
didn't know. I have so many questions now I know.
And you know what's good though, You have those questions
and you're going to experience it firsthand when you play
the game. Because you and I were boycotting the direct

(16:22):
let's go hell yeah, brother, Hell yeah, No, I'm that serious.
It's not like, you know, it's not like I wanted
some fun clickbaity title or anything. If anything, people would
probably prefer that I watch it and like react to it.
It's just I'm taking the Arlo route because I bet
Alo hasn't watched this either, because Alo considers anything a spoiler. Yeah,
he doesn't like commercials at all. If you tell Alo

(16:44):
there's a pick Man in Pickman five, he'll lose his mind.
He's like, why did you tell me that you robbed
me of the joy? Alo is intense with it and
rightfully so. I mean if that's how he enjoys things,
and I'm the same, Like I just I don't want
anything of this game ruined.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Now what I was gonna say. Also, when it comes
to first party Nintendo games, rarely are they ever missed.
They're always usually good. The only time I ever want
to see something in a Nintendo Direct and I want
to know more about is a Pokemon game, because I
know there's a good chance something's gonna be bad in that,
or like something's gonna be messed up.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is that a hot take? Maybe I kinda. I don't
care about Pokemon as much, so I know I'll probably
watch a Pokemon. Yeah, I watched Pokemon. I'm so excited
for this. Allo streamed it. Oh oh damn. That surprises
me because Alu refused to watch the Mario cott Treehouse
event because he didn't want spoilers. It's Mario Kart, but

(17:42):
he watched Did he watch Tiers of the Kingdom too?
Like I didn't want to watch it.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
I don't know, Like, oh, I'm going to watch the
Tiers of the Kingdom direct, but not Marrika.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I don't know he watched them. He didn't want I
don't know that surprises me. He has multiple videos better it? Okay,
all right, well maybe I'm Maybe I'm worse than Allo
with spoilers. I don't think so. Maybe I'm the new Hollo.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
You've watched good chunks of directs, but this is a
whole seventeen twenty minutes about a game that's not out
yet and you don't want any spoiler beats.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
So I asked the chat are you watching the Dunkown direct?
And eighty percent said yes, and twenty percent said no.
Damn wow. I just can't. I can't do it. I
don't want to do it. I refuse to do it.
I just want the moment. I want to play it,
and I want to discover it. It's such a you know,
it's Nintendo games and these open like Mario type adventure

(18:36):
three D platform is. It's the sense of discovery, it's
learning all the new mechanics for the first time. I
just can't imagine getting it ruined for me in a
twenty minute breakdown.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
I think you know what might have ruined certain things
for me and getting ruined it. Like remember when Tears
of the Kingdom rumors were coming around and then actual
stuff were coming out about it. Yeah, and when I
went to go play Tiers of the Kingdom, a lot
of this this stuff that they've shown was kind of
spoiled for me.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, and I would rather have been pleasant. Imagine. I
mean I think I did watch them, but I think
there was a couple of trailers I intentionally ignored now
that I think about it. But imagine if they had
done a direct and they'd gone over the depths, I
would have been I wouldn't have been so surprised.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, what if they did a big, in depth pun
not intended like direct on the depths and what's down there,
it would have ruined the Depths. I would have ruined
the Depths. Whereas the game came out and they didn't
say one thing about the Depths. No, And you know
what the coolest part of that game was for a
lot of people and me was realizing there's a whole underground.

(19:40):
That's the size of high game is very layered. There's
there's pancakes to that game, so literally anything anything that
can pancake me when it comes to Donkey Kong is
what I'm looking for here. I want pure joy. I
want pure, unabashed, unruined joy, you know what.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
I'm curious. So, so Nintendo is known for not showing everything?
Are they at this point? Are they kind of I
mean like, look like you just mentioned Tears the Kingdom?
We got, like, what how big of a Tears of the
Kingdom directed?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
We they showed everything of Mariokott though they did show
but it's Mario kartt it is Mariokott. But okay, what
if there's some hidden thing we're not they're not showing
like and there's so much more to Donkey Kong that
we don't know about. I'm not because I haven't watched
the direct I have no idea. Well, there'll be even
more that we don't know. Someone said, uh in Chat

(20:35):
uh Galactus. So you're gonna stop watching Tener directs. It's
your job, dude, It's actually not. My job is whatever
I want it to be. My job is a content
creative fin and tender. Right now I'm doing a whole
podcast about not watching it. Hell yeah, and this is
my job right now to make this video and this
podcast about not watching it.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Listen, in less than a month, we'll find out what
the hell's going on and Donkey k Hung and will
be pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I am so excited for them too. I'm so excited.
I also liked I don't know if it's a heartache,
but I like the new design. I like Donkey Kong.
I like it too. I don't know everyone's problem is.
I also like the way Pauline looks now, she's adorable. Yeah,
but yeah, if obviously most people have seen it, so
I'm not judging you if you've seen it.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
No, No, I think maybe that's what maybe some chatters
might get it, like confused or annoying.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, here's the thing, it's not buying it no matter what. Yeah,
but in this economy with a game that's seventy dollars,
if you need something like a direct to push you
over the edge or convince you that this is the
game that you should be spending your hard earned money
on at a time where there's like so many games,
or even if like you you know, the switch to
isn't out, Oh, the switch to is out, but if

(21:49):
you haven't bought a switch to yet, and yeah, and
you're trying to weigh up, like do I drop five
hundred dollars? Like is this? Is it going to be
worth it? Do I really want to play Donkey Kong?
It's not worth the risk? Like I already have this switch,
I'm already buying done. Yeah, yeah, So I totally get
it if you're watching the direct to convince yourself to
either buy it or to go fully commit to a
switch to There's absolutely no shame or judgment coming here.

(22:12):
I'm just letting you know why I'm not watching it
and that it's going to heighten my end Bingle's experience
playing the game for the first time. And Bengal, we
didn't even talk about you not watching it. It just you.
You came here and it turned out you hadn't seen it. No,
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, Like when I seen my friends reacting to it
and stuff, I'm like, nah.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And that was independent of this episode and I didn't
want to watch it. So yeah, I respect you guys
and your decision. Hey, respect mine. You know what I mean.
But we have a lot of stuff we can talk
about today. While I'm refusing to talk about that, I
have a whole dock fall of things that I would
love to talk to you guys about. There's been a
lot of things happening. There's so many things. We were
going crazy.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
We were trying to talk to each other about things
we were excited about, but we're like, oh, we'll see
for the podcast, and then power gone.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
I can't even remember what it was now. It was
like right before we went on. I know, Oh. I
did want to say though, like the sentiment online. You know,
if you're watching this episode back later and you want
to know what the sentiment was like leading up to
Donkey Kong. As far as I could tell from what
everyone was saying online, while the direct was spoiler heavy,

(23:17):
everything they showed was awesome. Like people are saying that
it looks incredible. People are saying it should have been
a launch the launch game, which I still disagree with wholeheartedly.
I think Mario Kart is the absolute winner here, and
again it's just highlighted even more by the fact that
the switch sold. You know, at this point it's got
to be four million, you know what I mean. I
think for families Marria Curry, it made the most sense.

(23:39):
It's accessible. It sold me on that because I didn't
agree with you. Oh, we talked about it in the bonus. Actually, yeah,
we had a whole conversation about it. I did not
agree with you. You convinced me otherwise. Yeah, I was
like no, because like it's maricro bro. We talked about
it in the bonus of last week. So I don't
want to rehash it for the patreons. But my whole
thing was I said in my video last or my
one week later video, that Mario kartt is the best

(24:01):
launch game I think that there's ever been. And a
lot of people didn't understand what I meant by that.
They thought I was trying to say that Mario cut
World is the best quality game. It's better than Breath
of the Wild, It's better than Mario Mario sixty four.
You know, That's not what you're saying. That's not what
I'm saying. I'm saying it's the best possible launch game
for a console. And the reason for that is because

(24:23):
and again obviously I prefer Breath of the Wild as
a game. And you know, but the Switch one didn't
sell three point five million, and a big reason why
the Switch two did is because of Mario Kart and
because if you look at the top five selling games
of all time, Mario cut eight Deluxe and Mario cutt
eight is number five at seventy million. Yeah, a lot
of people will merrick the four above. It is for

(24:45):
some reason Arc Survival evolved. I I have no idea. Why,
no idea. There's a GTA five understandable Minecraft and WE Sports.
I think might have been the other one. I can't
remember what the other one was. I think it might
have been WE Sports. Wait more than Minecraft? No, no, no,
it wasn't. That's not in that order. And so my

(25:06):
point was, you know, you unless Nintendo were locking down,
GTA six is an exclusive, no shot, or we're getting
Minecraft two as a weird exclusive, which doesn't even make sense,
like what is Minecraft two PC two? It's coming out
for PC two, Get ready? And then uh what is
Arc and then WE Sports. So there's an argument that

(25:27):
people could try and have and be like, what about
a WE Sports or whatever. We We've done that already.
Nintendo switch Sports. No one cared. You think you think
if if the Nintendo switched to sports was day one,
that's gonna be a system seller three point five million. No,
we already had Nintendo switch Sports. No one cared. No,
it had six games. You couldn't even play it online.

(25:48):
I don't know if they'll ever recapture the magic of
what We Sports was. You can't recapture the magic. And again,
I'm not saying that Mayacutt World is a better game
than We Sports or you know, I'm saying right now,
for nintend releasing a game with a new switch to console,
what was the best launch game they could possibly have done?
It is a Mario cut game.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
It's also like, just like for example, we were we
were no Internet powers going out. Yeah, but we're all
sitting together play Mario Card. Oh three of us, all three.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Of us, which you know what that means, But it
means that three copies were sold to make that happen.
Three switches were sold to make that happen. And that's
exactly why it's the best launch game and why they
sold so Also.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
It also highlights like, oh, I can detach my Like
like I with Max when I was coming here last week,
we detacher joy Conn. We're playing on the train. I
was showing him the game. He's like, oh, can you
do that with Donkey Kong?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
No, No, Donkey Kong sick Donkey Kong will be a
better game, I think so. It'll be a more quality game.
It'll be the ten out of ten game to the
Mario Cutt World being the nine out of ten game,
or whatever you want to rate it. It will be
a better game. But would it have been a better
launch game? No? No, there's no way Donkey Kong Bonanza
at launch would have helped the three point five million.

(27:05):
Maybe like two million, million and a half. I don't know.
I don't want to get down that avenue because I
don't know the answer. I don't know the answer either.
And some people said that I'm giving Mario Cutt World
too much credit, that it wasn't the reason why they
Switch to sold three point five million if the Switch
two didn't have Mario Ctt at launch. Let's say it
didn't have that game and it had the same lineup.
Do you think it's selling three point five without Mario Cutt?

(27:26):
What are people buying it for? Welcome to it? No? No,
I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I think pissed. I actually wouldn't have bought it yet,
No one would. I wouldn't have bought it, viewers would
that's it? What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I would have waited for Donkey Kot. It was absolutely
Mario CTT World that pushed at three point five million.
And you know why because there's a seventy million player
in store base for Mario Card eight and all Nintendo
needed was a fraction of that seventy million to really
want to play the next one I have, and that
fraction was three point five million at launch. Damn yeah,

(28:00):
I have Wait, I have a question for you. Hit me.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Okay, I don't know if I'm jumping topics here, okay,
but you know how certain third party titles didn't sell
a lot? Yeah, well, I wonder if Married Kart Worlds
is a big reason for that, and not only just
because the cards, and.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
We can talk about that. Actually, yeah, my dog.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
So so if you if you don't know, third party
titles did not sell that great on this switch. The
only one that did sell well was Cyberpunk. But I
was thinking, not only well, a lot of these third
party games didn't have the full game on it, but
what if an eighty dollars price tag also influenced people's
decisions on getting other games.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I think you know, we can get in this conversation too,
but I think you're absolutely right, it's definitely part of it. Yeah,
because people just bought a five hundred dollar console. Yeah,
or they bought They wouldn't buy it separately, though, would
they what most people probably bought the bundle, although the
bundle wasn't widely available. I didn't get the bundle. Yeah,

(29:01):
that's true. Actually, at my game Stop, it was like
fifty to fifty bundles and non bundles. Yeah, and the
bundles went up quick. Yeah, the bundles are gone. So
I would say half the people, probably just judging by
my Game Stop, but half the people buying a switch,
I mean half people in this room, yeah, buying a
switch couldn't get the bundle, which means they had to
spend eighty for Mario Cut. Yeah, and that influenced what

(29:23):
games I was like.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
If I if I got the bundle, for sure, I
wouldn't have got I would have got Yukuza zero.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I would have gotten that. So half the people buying
a switch had to spend an extra eighty, and then
half the people that didn't. They're already dropping five hundred.
So let's say they even maybe they pick up another game.
It's probably Cyberpunk. That's the other big one. That's another seven.
They don't have to install anything. That's another seven. And
then yeah, they're looking at the rest of the library

(29:50):
and they're like, well, I'm broke now. And also all
of these are gamekey carts. Yeah, so I'm good. Yeah,
I think you have a very good point. So we
can come over here and look at this. This is
what bingals referring to. Most third party Switch two games
posted very low numbers. I saw the quote was a tier. Actually,
one third party publisher characterized the numbers as below are

(30:13):
lowest estimates despite strong hardware sales. So this is actually
pretty crazy. So despite the Switch to having a insane
record breaking never seen before three point five million, yeah
that quickly, and despite the third party companies putting games
out not knowing it was going to break records and
just kind of basing it on previous console releases and

(30:34):
maybe even the Switch one release and kind of assessing
where their sales might be. Even on the lower estimate,
they were beyond the lowest of lows. Sixty two percent
physical sales were first party in the US, not including
Mario cut World bundle. Sixty physical sales worth first party. Okay,
so that means Mario Kart not in the bundle, and

(30:55):
then the two Zelders. That's the first party, so those
those may up for sixty two, which makes sense because
of course Cyberpunk toy SEV seven was the best third
party selling game. I feel like that's also and of
course because it's the biggest release, it's also a technical Marvel,
technical Marvel. It looks fantastic. It actually does look I

(31:17):
had a lot of promotion and it's all on the cutch.
Be honest, it was very skeptical.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
You kept saying it looks really good, showing you and
you show an I'm like, okay, this is sick because
it does not look that good on a Steam deck.
I don't know if you played this game on it's awful.
This is horrible as far as a portable.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Even if you go into the rock ally and then
like the high powered PC territory, this game looks better
than all of that.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
I'm a PC fanboy all the way. I'm there spending
I would spend four grand on a PC because I'm dumb,
But that looks good.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
This is the conversation I keep trying to have with people,
like yes, can you buy the Legion? Go s or
whatever I just reviewed that's technically more powerful than the
Switch and is running things incredible and have it brute
force cyberpunk in a way. That's very good. Yeah, yes,
but it's a thousand bucks. But it's a thousand bucks
and also like it's inconsistent, whereas this is optimized for

(32:11):
the console, so even though you're locking it at thirty
or forty, you know, it's it's optimized. It's it's optimized
with HDR. Yeah, it's good. It looks phenomenal, it looks
really good, all right, going back to this, hopefully Saga
was the third best selling publisher on the Switch too,
So that makes sense purely because Sega put out a
ton of games at launch. I can't remember them all

(32:31):
off hand, but Kuza Youkuza, Potetris and Sonic. I think
that was another one too, so out of I mean
they're all on your desk. Actually, I don't know why.
I can't just look over it. Uh uh, maybe that
was it. So they had three at launch, unless there
was any more. I think they had three, yeah, so

(32:53):
I mean it makes sense they had they put out three,
so of course, uh yeah, I can see the spines too,
I can see three spine into there, so yeah, they
had the most chance of scat of spray. Are that
eighty percent of switch to sales came from physical retailers
software sales, which is actually insane that eighty percent of

(33:13):
software sales came from physical and they were still underperforming,
so twenty percent was digital. I mean, I feel like
on Nintendo consoles, people still like they want physical. Yeah,
they want to go in it's tangible.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
It's not so the problem. The problem is the Nintendo
this console. What's the internal storage on this thing? Two
hundred and fifty fifty Yeah, okay, I don't want to
download a lot of games on this. At most, I'll
download very small games.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Mind filled up quick. I had to get that SD
cut in there pretty quick.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
So you want your you want physical games because it's
they're still the only console that you just plug it
in and it plays. It's not like even even in
PS five when you get a Final Fantasy seven Rebirth,
the whole game is on a disc. You still have
to install that thing. This you just plucking it in
and it plays with Irapunk or Harricot.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah, here's the issue, and it's not the developer's fault
at all. I know you were talking about this. I
want to make a video about this because I want
to signal boost it more on my main channel, but
I want to have the conversation here, so let please
let me know in the chat and also in the
comments when this is posted, anything that I've anything I'm
missing to add to my video when I make it.

(34:23):
This is one hundred percent on Nintendo, and I don't know.
This is probably my biggest actual complaint with Nintendo this generation.
I don't know why this is a thing, but let's
talk about it. So the reason why these game key
carts exist is because Nintendo have not given developers and
publishers a choice. There are two kinds of cuts that

(34:45):
publishers and developers can can purchase right now to put
their games in physically, the obvious game key cuts, which
don't fit any data on them whatsoever. They literally just
have like I don't even know, I don't want to
speak out of turn, but I think like one megabyte
of data and it's literally empty, and all it does
is trigger a download from the e Shop or whatever

(35:07):
digitally on your console. Those are cheap. Those carts are
probably dollars to donuts or whatever the expression is. I
highly doubt those costs more than a couple of cents,
right because they're empty carts. The only other option that
developers and publishers have is a sixty four gigabyte cart true,
which as far as we can tell right now, there's

(35:29):
a Reddit thread here, is that they cost about sixteen
dollars to manufacture, sixteen, which is a sixteen dollar fee
essentially that the developers and publishers have to pay if
they want to buy one of these cartridges. So when
you look at a game like and if you want
to hold it up for me, being a Poyo Poyo
Tetris for example, it's like second to the bottom down

(35:51):
there from Sega Poyer Poyo Tetris for example. If you
actually read it the little fine print the white fire,
I believe it says four gigabytes. That it's only four gigs.
That game is four gigabytes, And I don't know. I
can't rememb how it's like much that game cost. I
can look it up. I doubt it's more than forty
bucks or some Actually, let me look up how much

(36:12):
that game costs, so I can better make a point here.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Well, if this is a forty dollars game and it's
four gigabytes, they would have to sell this for fifty
to get their money.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Would worth price it is forty dollars? Yeah, so, uh,
forty dollars for a four gigabyte. So if they say, oh,
all right, let's buy the sixty four gig over over
Kill card for our game, now they're chipping into their
forty dollars of profit and it's now they're getting what

(36:41):
I can't do math twenty five dollars. Yeah, they're almost
having their profit. Yeah, literally almost having their profit. So
why in God's name honestly would Sega and whoever is
working on this physical and trying to get money for
this release not buy the gamekeycart when it's their only option.
But imagine if there was a ten gigabyte card and

(37:01):
that costs five dollars. Now they could look at their
options and be like, okay, you can get physical. Yeah
we can do physical. We can do the five dollars card.
It will chip into our profits. We'll do to forty dollars,
but we're gonna sell more. Yeah. You know. The other
risk here is even if Poyo Tetris developers were like,
all right, are only option is sixty four gigs. Let's

(37:21):
just spend the fifteen dollars. Let's say they decide we'll
just throw out a random number. Obviously we're talking about
tens and of not if not hundreds of thousands of
copies are going to make. Let's just make it simple
and say a thousand. They're like, let's make a thousand
of these fifteen dollars a cart. That's fifteen thousand dollars
we got to spend on overhead. And then they only
sell five hundred. They lose money, they don't even make

(37:43):
money on it now. But and that's on a thousand,
which obviously the number is in the tens of thousands,
if not more. They're taking a risk buying all of those.
And the other issue here that you run there's a
lot of issues is we haven't even seen an indie
game come to the system yet, and I'm not surprised.
But on the switch one, for example, a really cool thing.

(38:05):
You go to GameStop, you would see dead Sales. Yeah,
you'd see Stardoo Valley, you would see Celeste. These physical
indies on the shelf at GameStop for twenty dollars. Sometimes
I'd go on sale for fourteen ninety nine, it would
be like thirty forty bucks. Well, what if they want
to make a physical now, yeah, it's going to be
too expensive. Either it's not an option and they have

(38:25):
to get a gamekey cart because literally all of their
profits will be on a sixty four gig car. Or
they just don't do a physical, or they make them
forty dollars. Now dead sales or hollow Night or whatever
would have to be forty dollars instead of twenty, which
is affecting us the consumer. So there should be more
options for this.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I don't know who we were just talking about the
That was my next point, the right the Rido game,
I might ask. I'm like, you know, what, should I
just get to switch one copy and upgrade it? Like
is there an upgrade path? Because like I want the
whole I don't want to have to download the game.
So I tweeted this and it.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Got traction fortunately positive this time, and not like my
switch one switch to Debackle that we love to hear it.
So I said, wait, so the switch to version of
this game, I can't read it because it's trying to
promote the switch To. I'm not even on the right screen.
The switch To version of this game is a game
key cut, but the switch one version isn't. They're the
same price, but only the switch To version as the

(39:19):
enhanced features. So I'm legitimately in this position right now
in real life where I'm trying to decide what I'm
supposed to do because I'm trying to buy switch To.
I want the enhanced because it's ten EIGHTP instead of
seven to twenty and I want it for the collection,
but it's a game key cut. Or I could buy
the switch one version, which is backwards compatible. The game
is on the thing. It's the same price, but it's

(39:41):
seven to twenty P and it will look like the
switch one version running on my switch To. No, no,
it's worse. So why did I spend five hundred dollars
on a switch To at that point if I'm playing
a seven to twenty P game, So I'm I'm caught
in the middle.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
What do I just I just realized that there's they're
the same freaking price. So there is the same price,
there is no enhance upgrade path. No, oh, that's terrible.
That's the and even if there was an upgrade path.
Let's say best case scenario with upgrades for free, which
as far as anybody knows, it doesn't. I've still got
to buy the Switch one version, and I can't buy

(40:15):
the switch to version for the collection.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I got to buy the Switch one version, which is cool.
I guess there's at least an option for ry Do
because it's a cross release. But pretty soon we're going
to start getting into games that aren't cross releasing and
they're just gaming and they gain keycuts. But this is
a situation right now that obviously sucks because what is
the option?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
There is no option. I feel like I feel like
for the longest time, like Nintendo, we didn't have this
issue with Nintendo, but now we're starting to get there.
Like PlayStation it's like this with PlayStation disc games and no.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Well it's worth saying too that the reason why if
you didn't know, I mean, it's obvious, but if you
didn't know, it's not obvious. I don't make you feel bad.
The reason why the Switch one it has the data
on the disc is because the way the Switch one
generation worked was there was multiple sizes of cartridges developers
could buy. I'm not sure the exact sizes, but let's
just say five gigs, ten gigs, twenty gigs, thirty thirty
two gigs, and sixty four gigs. They could pick a size, right,

(41:10):
So Rydero is probably for switch one, I would guess,
using a twenty thirty gig cut maybe at most, which
is probably five ten dollars or something like that. Maybe
not even that much actually, because it's older now, probably
cheaper at this point. Switch two cuts are like way
more expensive as well, because they're like super fast, right, Yeah,
they're running the games way faster than before. I mean,

(41:32):
people have done tests running Mario Cut World straight off
the cartridge and off the SSD, and the cartridge is
actually a little bit slower by like half a second
or a second or something, but it's essentially the same speed,
which means those cartridges are fast, right, and they have
to be to keep up. So I don't so the

(41:54):
only I don't know why Nintendo has done this. The
only thing I can assume is maybe because of like
tariff situations and making these things now is a little
bit more expensive. Maybe they're waiting or holding off of
making other sizes. Maybe the cartridges are just more expensive
in general, so they didn't figure it was worth it

(42:16):
just offering this one size and the one. They were like,
we can only offer one size for some reason, So
I guess it's got to be the biggest size.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I'm curious, like what you said, it may not be
worth it. What if that speed thing it just makes
it expensive no matter what. That's what I'm thinking. So
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
One megabyte. They don't have to worry about the speeda
so even if it's like a ten gigobyte cart, maybe
it still cost ten dollars anyway, because the speeds the speeds.
But I don't know what the reason is. But if
they have any plans of fixing it later, I mean,
obviously that's great, fix it, fix it. The answer is
fix it. But even if they have plans to fix
it later, that doesn't help launch. No, that doesn't help

(42:54):
the developers that are supporting the Consolate launch. And also,
by the way, I want to add a big problem
that we you had taint and ruined the WIU. The
same problem the Switch had for the first year or
two before more developers joined was lack of third party support.
Yeah no, yeah, Nintendo have gone out of their way
to fix third party support issues on over the Switch
one live span to the point where Switch to developers

(43:16):
were like, we want to be their day one. We
want to support this console day one. And look at
all the games that got released. We got a street
Fighter six port, we got this is more than switch
We got, we a Hitman support, we got all this
Sega support, we got Capcom support. And the and the payment,
the pay, the payment that Nintendo has given them here
or the return or whatever of actually being here day

(43:37):
one is they forced them to do gamekey cuts, which
people are refusing to buy in their boycotting, their boycutting
the hard work these developers have done putting the games
on the console. Because the developers didn't have a choice.
And even though you can say something, I'm on a
tangent right now, I'm sorry, I haven't even looked at
chat even though you can say some of them did
have a choice, right Like you could look at maybe
Yakuza because it's a it's a fifty gig game, so

(44:00):
it's like, well, what you were always gonna have to
get a sixty four gig cut no matter what, but
it's fifteen dollars and you got to think of it
on a company standpoint that like.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Uza normally, I gotta look it up. It's like it's
like a sixty dollar game.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Whatever it is, it's cutting into their profits fifteen dollars
a pop. They should have charged seventy then, I mean,
that's that's the alternative is to raise the price to seventy.
I mean that Cyberpunk is seventy.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
The whole I feel like the whole point for a
digital store that everybody was kind of like on somewhat
on board was I could be wrong, there's gonna be
a hot take, but like digital is supposed to be cheaper,
always supposed to be cheaper than physical.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
You know, that would be a decent I think maybe
in my last chat, I think that would be maybe
a decent option. Is just Nintendo give the developers a
choice of buying these cartridges. Yeah, I think that would
be a great but their ten dollars more for physical.
It's funny because this is what pissed people off about

(45:03):
the eighty and ninety Mario card debacle when people thought
it was but at least it's physical for the collection.
Let me let me, let me think this out, and
then we'll see what people think at least give them
the option, right, so the physical could be sixty and
then the digital could be fifty, but at least it's
on the cartridge rather than the game cut. I don't

(45:24):
know what. Actually, that sounds horrible, but I don't know
what the alternative is here. So Yakuza is fifty. So
your Cuza. By the way, and I did a sponsor
for Yakuza, and I think the port they did was fantastic.
It looks really good. It's really good. It looks better
than the PlayStation five version. Somehow, it's running incredible. But
they also added in thirty minutes of extra content from

(45:46):
story missions to cut scenes, and they're added in a
whole extra mode. Like they did a ton of work
to actually make this a unique, justifiable repurchase, and technically
because of that stuff, and it was already the director's cut.
It's the best, it's the most complete, it's the most
full version of the game. It looks really good that
you can get anywhere. Yeah, and they kept the price

(46:06):
at fifty. I mean that's pretty good. Yeah, But I guess,
I guess if they did a physical with the sixty
four gig cut, they probably would have had to have
raised the price to at least sixty. I personally, with
that information in mind, would probably rather pay sixty for
the physical than buy fifty digital because at least I
get something. But I think to the general consumer, they're

(46:28):
going to see sixty and fifty and they're not really
going to think that through. They're also not going to care,
and they're going to get pissed off. So I don't
think it's an answer. I don't think that solves that.
I don't I think, yeah, Dan, so I mean, is
the answer at that point, it's just sixty and the
digital is also sixty.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
I you know what I think what's gonna happen is
we're gonna have some growing pains when it comes to
these micro because this is it's essentially just the switch
card is using micro SD express, right, Like it's essentially
that's what it is. Eventually, when this technology becomes cheaper
to manufacture than I think, we're going to see more
different like different types of what's it called, like different

(47:05):
gigabyte sizes and stuff to be sold.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
But it should al ready be fit, it should already
be a thing. I do hope as we move forward
this generation, maybe the technology or like, do you know
how SD cards always get cheaper and cheaper is what
you just said? Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, hopefully
the cartridges gets cheaper and cheaper and then find that
I'm hoping for you, but it doesn't help us. Now, No,
are they going to re release these games on an
actual cartridges. That would suck for people that already bought

(47:29):
them as gamekey cards, and people that keep saying, by
the way, like boycott the game key cuts, don't buy
the game key cuts. What option do I have? I mean,
the other option is buying digital. It's the same price,
and I don't even get a case. I mean some
of these come with a little art book inside, but
I don't even get a case. I don't even get
a physical I don't guess something put on the shelf.
It's it's technically, even though those are game key cards,

(47:51):
which are essentially useless to me. Even though that is
the case, this is technically still something more than just
buying it digital.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Okay, yes, And I'll tell you also for those that
like to buy a game like by maybe two games,
and then when they're don't to bring it back to
game Stop and possibly trade it in for another thing
you can trade in the.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Game cut those still I mean theoretically speaking, those still
hold the same value that could Yeah, because you can
trade them. It's still the same game. The marketplace dictates
the value, right, So if it's if digital it's fifty,
the game key cut is not going to randomly be
ten dollars. People are still it's still it's still the
same price. Yeah, so you can trade those in. Like

(48:31):
I was watching some some thrift store or whatever actually
taking them in there. They were testing it to see
if it would work on their switch. Obviously it does, Yeah,
it does. They act the same way, so they have
the same replay about the resell value. Can you can
still give them to friends, Yeah, to try games and
to borrow games, right, and you can still trade them in,
So I mean, technically that is a better deal than
buying digital. So boycotting those just because of the game

(48:54):
key cuts, the only reason to do it is to
say is to say, hey, I'm never going to buy
this game digital or physical. This has no excuse. I know,
let me finish my thought. The only reason to boycott
these is to make a statement and say I'm not
gonna buy it this way or digital until you make
this physical in a way where the game is on

(49:15):
the cartridge, which means you're punishing yourself because you can't
even play the game or buy it digital. If you
go and buy it digital, you're still giving the company
their money the same way they would have if you
bought it that way. I think they make more. So
to them, they make more because that still costs at
least a penny, right discussing them something. So if you
go and buy it digital, you're not boycotting that. You're

(49:37):
you're buying in a different way. So the only way
is to not buy it at all, and then then
then you're missing out. I'm playing something you want to play, true,
But if you can stick, if you can stick, that
is an actual boycott. And if enough people can stick
to that that it fixes this, then so be it.
But I just don't think that's gonna happen. I think
people are going to buy it digital in the end
of the day.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
I I buy digital sometimes because it's very convenient, but
I'm so I really want to go physical this way.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I mean, I buy digital if there's no other option,
if there's only a digital release out by a digital
if there is even a way of importing the game
from Japan physical. I'll do that before buying a digital
just because I like to feel like I have it
and it can't be taken away from me. True, even
though technically I don't own what's the whole the whole thing, right,
you don't Even though I own those in my house,

(50:22):
I don't technically own the game that's on them or whatever.
That's the whole agreement that you. I still feel like,
I okay, still you own the license to play them.
Some of those maybe not the game key cards, but
maybe cyber Apartment. Maybe some of those can actually increase
in value. Digitals cannot No, they can only go down. Well,
I can only say the same. I don't think this
would ye tell me, Yeah, that one sucks. This there's

(50:44):
no excuse for this one. That literal code that you
have to take time out of your day to plug
in and and and download this stupid game. You know,
and it makes sense that it's Ea, it really does that.
That one and Sieve seven are the only two physical
releases we have right now for Switch two that are
actually code in the boxes. Why why, Like you're saying,

(51:08):
why when the gamekey cuts exist for this very reason. Right,
they're a cheap little bit of plastic. How is there
any different to the piece of paper that's in that box? Mabe.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
I think they're greedy and they don't want people reselling it.
I think that's what it is. That is the only thing,
the only thing I can think of, because like, you
cannot resell this. This is this is you can useless
the moment you open and someone redeems the code.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
That is useless. You're right about that. There is no
way of reselling that. Yeah, well that's EA foy and
that's EA. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
I don't know about Sieve seven, but SIVE seven is
not doing too hot one?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Who made Who publishes SIVE seven? Can you look that up? Uh? Yeah,
he just look up who. I'll be curious to see
who publishes five seven because if it's EA as well,
that would speak volumes. Yeah, that's the only thing I
can think of is you can't resell it, which split
fiction is a weird one to me because it's like
they're in kind of indeed, well that makes me worried

(52:03):
about borderlands. Border Lands might be a code other there's
no other two K games on switch right now? Is
that no I don't think. Yeah, that makes me worried
about Borderlands. They can resal and redownload, uh code in
the boxes straight to jail. I don't think they can
resaial and redownload. No what people saying they the can.

(52:26):
One person in chat said they can. You can? You can't.
You can't resell those I don't believe, sir. You can.
You can resell your your digital the game key cards,
but not the digital down the digital downloads now. But
that's the whole point. That's what a lot of people
like to do. Sell somebody your switch to and not
log out. I'm just saying that's how you could do it.

(52:51):
Tony Hawk is coding the who does Tony Hawk? That sucks?
I was actually vision vision sure as activity. It's all
the usual suspects. Sucks. This actually sucks Chat. This sucks,
this whole situation. The thing that sucks the most though,
is not even like, well, no, it's it's it's it's us.

(53:14):
It's it sucks for us. Yeah. The side effect that
sucks here that we were talking about is like we
were saying that the physical sales are just down. They're
so lowest of low's lowest of lowest estimates. And again
I I you know, I don't feel for these these
million dollar companies, and I feel for them as much

(53:35):
as I can, but I do appreciate after this the
we you, as I said in the Switch one debacle
of just not getting the support from third parties and
being really isolated on those consoles with really Nintendo and
a couple of select partners supporting it to finally be
in a good position with third parties and this be

(53:56):
their experience of a launch. This is this is what
this says other developers is don't bother because you're not
going to sell.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Well, that's also another thing to note. And I'm not
I'm really, I'm not saying that this is going to
be a Sega situation or a Dreamcast situation. But a
reason Dreamcast failed, like astronomically, was they were releasing consoles
every two freaking years, right like, yeah, the Saturn and
Boom Dream like, So developers were working on this system
that's and third parties just pulled out they were done. Yeah,

(54:26):
they did not want to work for the system at all.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
That just makes me, that makes me worried the third
parties won't consider the console. Someone in chat said this
convose reminded me of when TC first started. I mean, yeah,
there's there's like conversations and upsets that happened along the line.
I mean, I remember when cosmetics were a thing and
everyone was an uproar about cosmetics charging for cosmetic items
and video games was like the biggest controversy of like

(54:50):
ten to fifteen years ago. Now it's Fortnite is run
on the back of that, and people love buying skins.
I was on that wave of cosmetic hate. Initially I
thought it was the most ridiculous thing, and then Bob
and I were giddy when we bought our Suprena Carpenter skins,
and thought the other day and I was doing all
the dances, I was reveling.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I was I was saying, we're being guilty of spending
too much money, and Valoriant too.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
And Valerie, yes, yes this. I don't know why this
feels different, and I think part of it it feels
different is like when doc became a thing, and when
and when cosmetics became a thing, companies only really stood
to make money from that. Companies don't stand to make

(55:34):
money from this if sales are below the lowest of lows.
This is kind of a different issue, Like if for
whatever reason, this was making companies money handover fist and
we were here complaining about it, like, oh, this is
so bad for the consumer and so greedy from the corporations.
It's like people are calling the game key Cuts greedy,
but it's almost like a necessity because the situation Nintendo

(55:57):
has put them in and it's costing the money now
to themselves.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
It's too much. I think it's too much to expect,
like for a company just to get a crap tunnel overhead,
spend this much amount of money and then what if
and it doesn't sell.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, someone said watching would play with the knife is
giving me anxiety, so I put it down. Regular people
aren't going to care about key Cuts, I see. I
kind of feel like you're wrong. No, people care, No, No,
I think I think people came more than you realize.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
People care because, like I said, this is not a
terabyte system. Yeah, there's a whole much much more baggage
with the system because people can't.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Okay, people. People also aren't that dumb. I mean some
people are. But when you go to a store and
you read a box and it says, hey, this is
a game key cut. You probably try and figure out
what that means, right, Yeah, And you ask and you ask,
and I feel like a lot of people, obviously people
aren't happy with this because the lowest of lows people

(56:56):
aren't going and buying it and drove.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I think I think people would be more more acceptable
to eat it if the if the system was like
five hundred gigs or more.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Maybe or I still don't think so. Really, people, it's weird.
It's weird because people, I think, will be more happy,
weirdly with buying the digital than supporting a physical that
has nothing on it. Really, I want I wonder if

(57:26):
that's true. Let me ask chat if I don't know
how to word this poll, because then if that's the case,
then people would have been buying this game digital. I
just feel like the there's not enough space on the
system to justify buying a whole list of games right now,
game key card or just by the digital. Okay, So

(57:49):
what I've said is, would you rather buy an empty
physical game key card or just buy the digital? So
I'm gonna say game key digital, And I'm actually really
be honest, I'm actually really curious what you guys would
rather buy, whether it's out of principle, whether it's out
of just how you view the situation. I'm really curious

(58:09):
how this pole goes so well off the rip. I
don't know if this is gonna level out, But I
was right. Seventy percent are already saying digital. They'd rather
just buy digital than buy an empty physical. Yeah. Yeah,
damn Wow, it's just not it's not a practice that works.

(58:31):
And look, I know I'm sat here with all of them,
like they're all over there, right, So that's twofold that
one hand. I'm a YouTuber and I wanted to make
the video, you know, and I write them off on
taxes and they pay for themselves ultimately when I make
the video, right, So, like my case is different, remove
me out of it. There's also a situation for me
where it's like, for some reason, I view this differently.

(58:55):
I already knew you guys if you would view it opposite,
But I would rather just I would rather get something
out of it. If I'm going to spend the money anyway,
I would rather get something out of it. But I
am well aware the public perception is so livid and
so upset by the fact these things exist that they

(59:16):
would rather not support it and by digital and that's
one hundred percent valid and I'm honestly with you with that.
And also if I wasn't a collector like the way
that I clearly am, I would probably be doing the
same thing even as a YouTuber. I know a lot
of it. I know bobb Is, I know a lot
of YouTubers are. It's just part of my like stick
on YouTube for the last eight years, is having this

(59:36):
behind me. And if I can't put something behind me,
it just feels like, how do people know I have it?
I'm curious? What if what if like it's a set
dressing in a way, what if, like you.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Know, these companies they switch to game let's say, but
they they have like like like for the smaller games
like five ten gigabytes, it's just a download only, but
it's on the cart itself and you have to put
the card in and to downloaded. People be more willing
to do that. Say that to me again, Like so
Final Fantasy Rebirth right it's on a disc. You can't
actually play it off the disc if they download everything?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, what if they did stuff like this but would
switch one cart? Is that not the same thing. No,
how is it not the same thing Because you're downloading
off the internet, the game is not there inherently, you're
that's what that is. Yeah, the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
If it's so for a game preservation point of view,
it's definitely not. Because the shop ever goes offline.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, well, the Sony store ever goes offline, you can't
download it rebirth you can. How it's the whole game
is on two discs. Oh, then what are we talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
I'm saying if they were to put like one of
these games, like the four gigabyte versions of these games,
right on a cart and knowing like you can't really
run switch one games off of the the switch to
right because it's like weird what you're saying, get us
switch one cart and just download it. Put the game
on the cart and just download it. So the whole

(01:01:08):
game's on the cart. Yeah, but to play it you
have to download it to your console. Because that's which
one cut can't play it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah, which is what the play which is what Final
Fantasy essentially does because it wants to run off the
hard ware the PlayStation. It can't run off the disc
too slow. You're getting into semantics. But if they I'll
tell you if they didn't. If they did that and
they didn't have to write ganmekey cut on the box,
I think people wouldn't care. I think actually the messaging

(01:01:36):
of gamekey cart is what's ruining the whole thing because
it's it's funny in a way when you think about it,
because they're really just being honest about what it is,
which is nice that they're being honest and transparent about
what a game key cut is. But you think of
examples like on PlayStation five two that come to mind,
because I know it to be a fact, Call of

(01:01:56):
Duties that have PlayStation five releases like the most recent
called and Hogwarts Legacy. Both of those the discs when
you buy them have a one megabyte file on them
that proxy a download. Yeah sure, Hogwarts for example, you
can't actually open and play the game until it does
the update. I think too transparentically technically, Hogwarts and Call

(01:02:23):
of Duty should be labeled in this situation as game
disc game cut discs or game disc keys. Yeah, game
disc games disc keys. Yeah, it's the same thing. And
there has been occasions where people watching this right now
and I have already bought game disc keys and we
didn't know because they don't ride it on the box,

(01:02:43):
they don't write it they if they weren't transparent about this,
probably would have sold a lot better and people wouldn't
care nearly as much in the conversation, wouldn't be nearly
as vocal. But because every single one of those cartridges
other than Nintendo's and Cyberpunk and Room Factory, say game
Key cart and we all know for a fact there's

(01:03:03):
no game on each of those, it makes it feel
way more empty and hollow. So the answer is Nintendo
stopped being so honest. I picked up the blade again,
put the scalpel down. Sorry, I don't know why I
keep doing. It's helping me. It's fidgeting game disc keys

(01:03:24):
is a mouthful, I know, but you know what I mean,
that's fair, right, I mean they've been doing that since
the PS four. Err, yeah, there's been It's not every game,
but it's not to this level like on PlayStation five.
I don't think it was ever to this level where
so many games in succession and in general, we're not
on the disc It's just there have been cases of it,

(01:03:45):
and those are the two that I know of. I'm
sure there's more, but it's not as widespread as now
every single one is gonna be that way. I just
wonder if they weren't, if they wan't ever, I wonder
if legally they had to say something, because I feel like, no,
right legally did they have to. I mean, hopwoarts didn't.
Call of Duty doesn't. People don't even realize so legally,

(01:04:08):
if they didn't have to, I wonder why they committed
to other than just being I haven't bought Called Duty
physical in years because of this reason. I mean, I
think since the who does who does? Yeah, who does?
I'm sure some people do. Combo endpoint, Nintendo stopped telling
U stuff. That was not the takeaway. It's just it's

(01:04:29):
an interesting thought experiment. Right, We're trying to figure out
like and think about it because I'm trying to break
down the public perception of game key carts. Right, we
can move on. I think that's everything that I really
wanted it to say. Anyway, I do want to make
it a video, but the reality is switch to third

(01:04:50):
party games are struggling to sell. We think that's mostly
because ninety percent of them a game key carts. There's
another element to it, as bingle pointed out the switch
one is already switched to was already very expensive. And
if you get that and Mario Kart, and then even
if you fork out and get Cyberpunk, I mean you're
at like six hundred, seven hundred dollars. And then also

(01:05:10):
like maybe you get the microphone, maybe you get a
pro control. They're getting up close to a grand and
you know, on top of that, you're running out of
space now. Yeah, and now you're gonna look at the
rest of what's available at GameStop and you're gonna be like,
go on their own game key cards. Do I want
to drop another fifty on that? It's like no, maybe
maybe maybe later I'll just get it digital. Maybe later

(01:05:31):
I'll get a digital when I have a bigger storage, yeah,
or just maybe when I like, you know, when I
get bored a Myria car or whatever, maybe I'll get digital.
I don't have to get this right now, same difference.
And then without that incentive too, like there's there's an impulse,
right and that was the moment too. There there, this
is the last thing I'll say, unmust I think of
something else. Impulse purchases are a thing and launch day

(01:05:55):
when people are in game Stop. They're in Best by
their in target and they're standing there and they're buying
their car soul right, and they see the games on
the shelf. There's an impulse purchase that goes into it
where they're like, oh, well, God, just grab that while
I'm here. And that's when a lot of these why
these third party companies want to be on launch right,
because they want to be in the store. That impulse
purchase is gone. If somebody thinks, well, it's the same

(01:06:17):
thing as digital, so I'll grab it later if I
decide I want it, or I get bored in Mario Kart. True,
and then they won't buy it. They'll forget or something
else will come out later, or by the time they're
done with Mario Kart, another game will come out, or
something else might peak their interest, or they'll they'll just
buy one of their or play one of their backwards
compatible games. That's another thing too. I told you there

(01:06:37):
might be something else that's that could be a third
leg of this tripod. It's backwards compatible. So a lot
of people might have been like, I'll buy Mario Kart,
I'll buy whatever, and then Scarlett I never finished scarletan
and Violet. I never finished the doc that I bought.
Oh yeah, and it has an update. Now. I literally have.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Seventy games on my Switch one, yeah already, that's on
my switch.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
To now, and I think backwards spatible as always the
way they should have gone. But this is what I
was saying leading up to launch, and it's actually the
one thing that I got wrong when I was predicting
the launch. Until Bob convinced me a year ago that
it was going to be backwards compatible. I always thought
that it wasn't going to be backwards compatible for this
very situation, because what's the incentive of a going and

(01:07:20):
buying the console period if it plays all the same
games other than one, which is right now it does,
or b buying anything extra at launch supporting any of
these third party new games other than the one first
party one. If you have fifteen thousand games, most of
which are on sale or cheap because they came out
eight years ago, that you can check out now instead,

(01:07:41):
are any of these games right here on Switch one?
M No, those ones?

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
No, none of them. I mean Zelder's besides Zelda, there's
no Ukuza zero on Switch one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
No, Okay, I don't think so, or Sonic that one yes,
Sonic yes, and Hogwarts Okay, yeah, that's that could be
a third leg of the of the tripod is people
just relying on backwards compatible, which you know, again, the
console should always be backwards compatible. I'm not saying it

(01:08:13):
shouldn't be. That's what makes us console really cool. But
it's definitely less in the sensive for people to go
crazy buying anything because they probably already have a whole
library of games, or they or they'll pick up or
now they're more likely to if they didn't have any
games before, to buy Switch one games because at least
they're not game key cuts.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
True, or if I know some uh, like I was
hearing some people that didn't touch which is crazy to me,
But they didn't touch the first the new Zelda games
that came out because their frame rates were so bad
they didn't want to do it. Now now they're playing
it because it's on switch to and sixty fps.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I'm actually curious. I don't know if you can tell
by looking at it. Probably it's not even in there.
It's in my game case what game cut rune Factory used,
because rune Factory isn't a game key cut. It's physical
and it's actually the switch one game. So that switch
that switch to case that you have there, if you
take it's the third from the bottom. If you take

(01:09:11):
that red game out of there, the red the red
switch to cart, right, give me a yes, so I
know you're listening. It's not in there. I told you.
If you took it, though, and you put it in
a switch one, it would play because it's the switch
one version of the game. If you take it and
put it in a switch to it updates, it updates

(01:09:33):
to the switch to version. So I wonder what cut
Is that a sixty four gig switch to cart or
is it a red colored switch one cart that's cheaper? Well, no,
do switch two cards to work in the switch one? No,
they don't. Well that one does because they don't switch to. Well,

(01:09:54):
that's what I'm That's what I'm asking. So if that's
I don't know, might say on the back. But if
that's true and chat, I don't know if someone can
find this out for me. If that is a switch
a red colored switch one cart that's downloading an update
to run and it does it downloaded a twenty minute update.

(01:10:15):
Even when I was wired in it's a big update.
It might have downloaded the whole game. Actually, it might
have downloaded the whole switch to version of the game
to run locally on the console because it can't run
off that cart because it's a red colored switch one
cust essentially what I just said, Yeah, what I was
talking about before. So why so I wonder why Ryder
didn't do that because Ryder could have been a switch

(01:10:36):
to physical on a switch one cart that works on
a switch one, but then downloads the switch to No,
because they're already making a switch one cut for the
switch one version. I don't know they should have done
that for ry Do because then also you don't have
to do an upgrade path. It just downloads the upgrade

(01:10:57):
when you stick it in. So I think messed up
and Rydo, by the way, because it says game key
cut is gonna hurt its sales when it could have
done what that did. If that did what I think
it did, which is which is a fake switch to cut,
I'm accusing that of being a fake. Hold on, I
gotta I gotta find out we never called hamd I
forgot to call ham Oh yeah, I got carried away

(01:11:20):
HAMN I wonder if that's true. Can anyone look that up?
I feel like I'm Phoenix right in Ace Attorney, and you, sir,
used a fake switch to cut, a switch one colored
in red. The evidence sustained on your hands as I
found you red handed. Good sir. I've never actually played

(01:11:42):
it ACE, so it's roughly six gigabytes, and while on
the switch to version is eighteen gigs, so this would
be cheap to produce. For the Switch one, that's an
eighteen gig game. Eighteen gigs. There's no way they bought
a sixty four gig cut for fifteen dollars. Then, no,
I really feel like it's a switch one cut colored

(01:12:03):
in red. Yeah, I think it's a Switch one card
because the Switch two game isn't on that cart. I'm
telling you now, it's not on that cut.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Well, is it a game key card? Then it doesn't
say it on the box. Maybe the first people lying
to us, so people in chat are confused. I think
someone said switch to version is a dedicated switch to version.
Switch to editions work on Switch one and two because
it has switched one game and the patch. Yeah yeah,
yeah for two on the same cut. Yeah, that's what

(01:12:31):
I what I'm trying to say. I think people are
getting confused. Let me reiterate. I don't know how to
explain this. It's really confusing. So I don't blame it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
That switch to cut. Yes, it's red. Yes, it says
switch to. Yes, it looks like it's a switch to cut.
If you put it in a switch to it only
has the switch one version. It will then proxy a
download to upgrade it and install the switch to version
because it's not actually the switch to version, it's the

(01:13:02):
switch one version. And the reason why they did that
is because if you put it on a switch, if
you take that red caut it works on a switch
one because it's actually I switch one cut with the
switch one version, and the switch one just doesn't download
that extra update. So, yes, it is a switch to
cut by marketing. Our theory, My theory is that it's

(01:13:22):
actually a switch one cut. It's a switch one cartridge
with the switch to edition patch, says gamer Bros. YouTube.
That's what I think. Yeah, that makes sense. That's what
I think. It makes a lot of sense. Someone says, oh,
we should talk about this. If you put Hogwarts legacy
in switch to in a switch one, the switch one
version will play switch to games work in Switch one.
They will just play the switch one version unless there

(01:13:44):
isn't a switch one. If you put the Hogwarts Legacy
switch to in switch one, that can't be true. Can
you look at Hogwarts Legacy? Is that a gamekey cut
or a physical Just look at Hogwarts. It's like fifth down,
you're killing me. The next one it's gamecy cut. Yeah,

(01:14:07):
that doesn't work in a switch one. That can't work
in a switch one. I don't believe you because there's
nothing on there's nothing on it. It would have to
download it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Well, I heard, well, isn't it isn't. Wasn't there a
rumor going around if you put Hogwarts into like your
switch one Hogwarts and put it into a switch to That's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
What I was going That's what I thought they were
going to say. So, But if you don't know this,
you can get You can essentially get Hogwarts Nintendo switch
to edition for your switch to for ten dollars. Like
you can get it for ten dollars without having to
buy the base game. Here's how you do it, little
hack for you borrow from a friend or a blockbuster

(01:14:45):
video you know, or or go to a store, even
though that has refunds, and buy it temporarily. Right. But
let's say you borrow the Switch one version, put it
in your switch to play the game up to the
point where you have to You can save right and
they'll be playing the Switch one version on your switch
to so it will look bad. Then upgrade the game.

(01:15:07):
Spend ten dollars on your account to upgrade the game.
It'll create a game key cut digital of the game.
You can then give back or return the Switch one
version that you borrowed, and you can keep the Switch
to version.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
So you only have to do is get a use
game game Stop. They have a return partly on them. Yeah, exactly,
so you damn. It's kind of a yeah, yeah, yeah,
screw that company. You can get it for ten bars.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Why not? If you didn't know, you can get Hogwarts
Legacy two on switch to for ten bucks. So go
run to your game Stop buy it pre owned, and
then return it or ask a friend if they have it.
I wonder if that works for any other Switch titles.
It just Hogwarts. I think it's just Hogwarts. That's the
only one I've heard said. Listen to Christopher, Christopher saying
the physical switch to version is a red sixty four

(01:15:54):
game cut that will work on either a Switch one
or switch to. The correct version will launch or a
depending on the console. Okay, well, then it's not fake.
I don't know where they're getting that from. I was
gonna trust them. It is a sixty four gig cut,
which means they spent the fifteen dollars. I actually think
that game is seventy, so that makes sense. I think
it is a seventy dollars game, so it's not a faky.

(01:16:16):
But it's a sixty four gig switch to cut that
has the switch one version on it. I mean, yeah, what,
but don't you have to You're not confused by that,
but but why do you have to download it, download
anything for it? Didn't you have to download a big patch?
I'm gonna kick you in the butt. Okay, it's a

(01:16:38):
sixty four gig switch to cut that has only the
switch one version on it. Oh, so you put it
in your switch one. You're a Gucci. You put it
in your switch to. It has to download the rest. Okay. Yeah,
although people are saying it has the patch on it,

(01:17:00):
whatever you want to call it, you still have to
download it from online. Okay, okay, unless I'm wrong and
it downloads it from the cart. But it needed Wi Fi,
so I don't think so. No, if it need Wi Fi,
it's not coming from the cart. Yeah, like Rebirth doesn't
need Wi Fi. We're gonna crash out. Well, to be fair,

(01:17:25):
I've been I've been well. I was accusing it of
something and I wasn't sure. But I've been wrong too,
I was. I kept saying it was a switch one cart,
so then ry Do. That's why Ryo didn't do it.
The game key cut thing is extremely confusing. That's why
Rydo didn't do it, because then they would have had
to have bought the fifteen. But could you could you

(01:17:48):
just do it? Why not just paint a switch one
cart red? Who's gonna know that's true?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Why not? We got to get off this topic. We've
been talking about it too long. There's a lot, we
have so many things. I think we're already over an hour.
No way, I have so many things I wanted to
talk about. All right, guys, hit me out here. I'm

(01:18:20):
gonna tell you something right now. I can't tell you
how I know do with this information? What you will?
All right? There's gonna be a Nintendo Direct next month
in July. How do you know? I can't tell you.
I just said I can't tell you how I know.

(01:18:40):
You know how I know, but I can't tell you
how I know. Okay, here's what we're gonna see. Metaphor.
Oh hell yeah, that's actually perfect for the system. I know.
Although now I'm alreays going to be a gamekey cop
because the writer was Atlas as well.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Well, everything's a gamekey coming. The Metaphor is a huge download,
and I think it's a seventy dollars game.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Then they should do physical. They should do physical Atlas
if you're listening, This one's obvious for a direct. But uh,
the we're gonna get GameCube shadow drops, Oh thank god?
And I heard it was Pokemon Coliseum was one? No,
not gaye l x D. That's coming later. They don't

(01:19:28):
one at a time, this will say. That's really pretty dope.
This one. I don't know about this one. It's just
what I was told. Death Stranding directors cut s. I
can see Death Stranding coming this week. Well, the new
game's coming out too soon. Okay, this one's also obvious,

(01:19:49):
I feel, But which a three Nintendo Switch To edition. Okay, yeah,
they also just added cross save and cross play to
which of three? Are they gonna charge ten bucks for it?
I mean, I don't know specifically, but I haven't been
told specifically. Okay, but they they're known to, but I

(01:20:10):
would guess so they give free updates, even even the
PS four guy, like I think it was a free piece.
The Switch To additions are actual like releases that will
get like a physical m okay. So, I mean, I
don't know if they're going to add anything to it,
or they're going to add like motion controls like they
did for Cyperpunk, but that'll be cool. They already have
the engine obviously, the main reason for this direct is

(01:20:34):
to like refresh everybody. I don't know if it's coming
before Donkey Kong or after Donkey Kong, but to refresh
everybody with like what's coming out for the rest of
the year. Included in that is Metroid's release date All's
which obviously we need. Yeah, we need that. And then,
as far as I'm aware, it's supposed to the one

(01:20:55):
more thing is supposed to be just a teaser card.
I heard Isabelle's gonna show up and it's gonna tease
a card Animal Crossing coming out in twenty twenty six.
People are gonna lose their minds. That's everything I heard. Damn.
So I don't know how much is that is true.

(01:21:17):
That's everything I heard, and I never get information, so
I think you might be right. I'm skeptical. Don't take
my word for it. That's just what I've been told.
I can no, honestly, I can see. I don't know
about the Animal Crossing thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
Why I'm not because because I don't know, I'm not
too you know, but when it comes, we really need
a release date for Metroid.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Like people are saying Final Fans look, that's all I know.
I don't know, but I do think it's the idea
of it is to not only refresh people on what's coming,
but to show and talk more about third party stuff
because they're doing such big third party support. Does elden
Ring have an update or a release date? Well, Final
Fantasy have a release date? I don't know. I don't
know about any of that, but you know, I would

(01:22:02):
assert think. I think they said wasn't elder Ring later
this year or at twenty twenty six? I don't remember,
but if any of that's coming this year, I'm sure
we'll probably get a release date for something, probably some
more surprises on third party stuff. I mean, you got
to remember, like this is the start of a new generation,
so announcements are going to be thick. And I don't

(01:22:22):
know if you remember the start to Switched, well, it
took a little bit to get heated up. But I
think because this is the same ecosystem, we're just going
to be on a roll. This is where directs go crazy.
We're back to directs going crazy. We're back to the
big announcements, and I feel like it's like a one
two punch to release the console and then a month
or so later you do a big direct Like you know,

(01:22:44):
they're also going to want to push it because the
Mario Cup bundle that only lasts through until full Okay,
so they're really going to want to push as much
as they can, like get it now, because here's everything
that's coming. Here's also you know how Animal crossing is
a thing everyone been asking for. Yeah, like you know
how like third party supports a big thing. Here's everything
else that's happening with our third parties. Here's Metroid's release date.

(01:23:07):
Get it now, you got you got two more months
until four.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
You know, so.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Also, I'm pretty sure I feel like this this was
a way stronger launch than the Switch one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
You know we got with Switch one. Yeah, Like I
feel like this is a stronger, way stronger, yeah, crazy strong.
All right, So I am. I am crushing it on
TikTok right now. Yo, you have been crushing it on TikTok. Dude,
I am out of control on TikTok. You guys have
been seeing them everywhere, so here here I am on TikTok.

(01:23:45):
Uh my classic obviously, I use my classic beat them
ups and then my other classic name user A eight
three four eight six one one two zero eight five nine.
Kind of inspired by Boogie two nine eight eight you know,
or one nine eight whatever whatever. That kind of big
inspiration for me. I want to be just like my heroes.
You know, I haven't added a bio yet, just give

(01:24:10):
me time, but I do have eleven thousand followers here,
so I'm growing, you know, you are growing. I've kind
of like, so I've taken this weird attempt over here
on this channel where like I'm kind of doing this
like whole zoomed in cropped line through my content lower resolution.
Now to some people, this might seem weird, might seem like,

(01:24:31):
you know, a weird editing choice for me to do this. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. I just was going for like artistic,
like I wanted to make it look like I had
ripped the files off of my own YouTube that I
didn't actually like have the raw files anymore. It was like,
it's a it's like an artistic piece. And then I
figured by putting a line through it, it would really

(01:24:53):
say something. It says a lot so much. I can
we ban this account please, because I, for the life
of me, cannot figure out how to Oh it's right here.
You can't report on your phone. Oh wait, no, I
could report. I didn't know what option to pick for

(01:25:16):
reporting though report account. There's also they're also real upwarding
your old content too, So what do I report it
as inappropriate pretending to be someone? Oh me, Oh, there
is an option submit. I don't want to block them.
Everyone go do that. Oh my god, please mass report.

(01:25:38):
They're actually kind of crushing it though I'm not gonna lie.
This whole thing is just my content. And they got
five thousand nine one hundred and fifty thousand on this one. Oh,
I'm not going to be able to hear it unless
I fix it really quickly. Damn should I fix it
really quickly? I want to see what this is? Hold
on my uh? For some reason? The uh? What am

(01:26:04):
I trying to say, Bingle, you were talking about the audio? Yeah?
Hold on being being here we go. I just should
fix it. I want to know what. Huh? I still
can't hear it. Did it get muted? Oh? This is

(01:26:24):
talking about the battery, life King. It's making it's making
out like it's making noise, but I can't hear it.
I don't know if they can hear it. I can't
hear it either. Jesus, Well whatever, right?

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
For some reason I can't hear it. Is it talking
about the battery? I think so?

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Yeah, because I'm looking at the comments and there was
like a whole thing about batteries.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Was this the one? I don't even know anymore? Just
just go and repull it this, please, stinky. I've tried
reporting it already and it doesn't do anything. No, it's
just one week later. It's just me talking about the games.
They're literally stealing your content and then making it into parts.
The annoying thing is I don't even do TikTok, so

(01:27:14):
like maybe I should be. I sent this to my editor.
I was like, can you just can you do these
for real so I can post them. I thought about
downloading them and reposting them to my account, but they're
such bad quality and they have a straight line through it. Also,
whoever it is must be a fan because they're pulling,
like from the Midnight launch from my streams and now

(01:27:37):
for some reason they've gone back to a random video
I did years ago when they've pieced it out, stop it,
hey man. Also, by the way, we officially lost Max.
The lost the log into the Nintendo account, the main one,
so now we only have the new one, and the
new one is still dead in the water. It's just

(01:27:57):
not getting any views. I think it's hard to get
traction on TikTok right now. Yeah, the dream is over.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
TikTok is weird. I mean, Reels is cooking, and I
don't know about YouTube shorts. YouTube shorts has always been weird.
King Actually, there's one thing about the Donkey Kong director.
I forgot to show that I'm excited for. Oh is
that the amebo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
You haven't seen that? No, Oh, spoiler a lot. That's sick. Yeah,
I know, it's cool. It's thirty dollars. Are they usually
like twenty? They were fifteen, they were twelve ninety nine
at one point, I think they were fifteen dollars essentially
once upon a time. They're creeping up there. I mean,
to be fair, this is a big one and you
get kind of like two characters. But still, I think

(01:28:41):
I spent what thirty for the for the Zelda one
with the waffling, the eight Bit one, No, the Skywards
Sword one. Oh, the street the New street Fighter one's forty.
I know this is cheap compared to that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
I don't know what's happening to a surprises of things.
I mean probably tariffs, right, yeah, it was probably supposed
to be twenty five, which doesn't seem as bad. But
it's cool. You know what. Here's the thing too, everybody's
like thirty dollars boycott, and then the website broke when
people were buying it, and like you couldn't get one,
and it was like a timer king.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Let me tell you something, I really don't think video
game boycotts work the way people think they do.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
I dude, Well, for one, everyone was like boycott and
then it was the best selling console of all time
because people can't commit because they want it. Yeah. And
the other thing is the amount of YouTubers and influencers
and creators that were like, let's boycott, boycott, boycott the
switch too, and then they all bought it and they're
all making content around it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
The other thing is, too, I really don't think the
average consumer is in tuned with what YouTubers are saying
about boycotting the system and stuff like that. The average
consumers shiny new switch, this looks cool, Marrio Kart, let's play.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Yeah, the average consumer, I definitely agree with you. It
is funny to me though that, like I think about
this sometimes, I'm very very lucky. I love you guys.
I love the audience that I've built, and the and
the the channel especially beat them up so obviously, but
here too that I've built over the years. But you know,
like my first hands on impression on my one week

(01:30:26):
later of a switch to video is coming up on
a million views and I'm thinking about it like it
sold three million. Yeah, so I have on that one
video a third of the total amount of people that
have even bought this console a cost. I'm not no,
I'm saying literally, yeah, like one million as a number.

(01:30:50):
You think about how wide spread the switch to is.
Everybody knows about it? Yeah, worldwide?

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Five million even people when I went to the doctor's office,
So like, how is that thing? I've been hearing everywhere
about it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
So all of that right, this like actual global thing
that's happening in the world that everyone knows about. A
third of the number is how many people have watched
me do my one week later on it? Okay, that's
just to me, doesn't make sense. That to me is
in an insane thing, Like I'm thankful, I'm so privileged,

(01:31:20):
Like I'm overwhelmed by it. Like it doesn't make sense
to me, Like because I'm not worldwide, you ask one
out of a million people, one person might know who
I am, you know what I mean? Like, no one
knows me. Everyone knows the switch, So how have I
managed to get a third of like the attention that

(01:31:43):
the actual release got. We would go to Manhattan and
people will recognize you. It's not what I'm trying to say, though,
And I appreciate you saying that. Thank you I'm very famous. No,
I'm just kidding. I' kidding. I'mkidding. It's baffling to me,
Like there's other things that sometimes when I think about
it too much, I get blown away, and I try

(01:32:04):
not to talk about it because it seems like I'm gloating.
I'm really not. I'm so thankful, I'm so confused by it,
and I'm so appreciated of it. But it's like like
my review of le Xenobla two that everybody hates, which
I appreciate that you hate it. It has as many
views as like that game sold, which that doesn't make
sense to me, damn. And sometimes I think about, like

(01:32:25):
I love aw Right, I watch it most weeks, that
gets like half a million views a week, and it's
got all these wrestlers getting paid. It's a big production.
And then I piss around with a switch for ten minutes.
You know, sometimes things don't make sense to me. I
don't know why I started talking about that other than

(01:32:46):
just thank you so much for all the support you've
given me for the years. It means so much to me,
it really, really really does. It's overwhelming. Yeah, it's overwhelming
to me. How much how much support you guys, give
me thank you got you got a super chat of
fifty bugs. Oh my god, speaking of can I read
that real quick? Oh, it's Satisfy a super awesome Hey,

(01:33:07):
can I talk about it? I talk about it Philip.
By the way, I probably should say this while Philip
is here. I have a satisfied grip on my switch
to Oh. I've been using it. It's very comfortable. It's look. Look,

(01:33:28):
I wanted to make a joke and I don't know
if I want to commit to it. Look, we're taking
a look at some like accessories on the channel already.
We took a look at some grips and stuff like that.
Like I'm not going to mention them, but some companies
were nice enough to support the channel and send some
products over and I took a look at them and
I reviewed them, and I don't want to talk disparagingly
about any of those, but they don't hold a candle.

(01:33:49):
My guy, There is a reason why I chose to
work with Satisfy and I didn't choose to work with
those other companies when it came to making a product.
And it's because this literally, and I've said this so
many times, it makes the switch feel like a PlayStation
five or four controller because it extremely comfortable. It has
those handles, It's got so much meat and so much girth,

(01:34:09):
and like the other things we looked at recently don't
even come close. And they also feel comparative to this
little flimsy this like I don't know if you remember.
I'm not going to give too many details, but how
I was showing you it was like, if I hold
this in one hand, it kind of feels like the
joy gone's going to snap out. That's when I had
it in the other grip. Oh right, this no, this, this, No,

(01:34:32):
it bends. I know it bends. King, try it with this. Okay,
give us me that ain't bended. That's a lock in it.
I gotta cut it to you. Wait, wait, show the
bending one. All right? I switched with nothing on it. Yeah,
I don't even like you doing. Actually nervous. I'm actually scared.

(01:34:54):
That ain't going nowhere. No. So that's actually a prototype.
That's why it's white. It's a I've had it in
my house for a little bit. Actually, actually I should
have been using it. It's actually unfinished. It's not texted.
It's a prototype. But as Satisfied just donated fifty. The
grips are a thing. They have gone into production. We

(01:35:15):
have the first like set of them that we just
looked over for quality. There was like twenty five of
them I think he had made and he's sending them
all to my house, so you'll get one. I'm gonna
divvy them out, probably take them to too many games
and give them to some friends and you know, family
or whatever. But they are finally all going out and
if you want to grab one, you can use code

(01:35:35):
beat them ups fifteen I think to get fifteen percent off.
Let me know if that's true. Satisfy, you can still
get one. The people that have already pre ordered to
getting this first, we're doing it in batches, but they
are officially moving. They are moving, and yeah, it's really cool.
Some other features if you don't know, is you can
take your game cartridge. It's like I can take Cyberpunk

(01:35:57):
here and I can slot it into the back. Whoop's
wrong way slotted into the back, so I can keep
two games here and then also one in my switch,
so you're always carrying around at least three. It's super comfortable.
It's fully dockable that some other docks. People have been
complaining that they don't fit in the dock right, like
it's too tight, Like it's there's a reason why there's
a cutout here. That's really nice, king easy access. You

(01:36:22):
also look a lot nicer than this because this, again
it's just a white prototype. But yeah, actually I've been
meeting to shout that out. And I'll say this as
well for anybody that's like, oh, shameless plug one thing.
This isn't a sponsor. This is a partnership. This is
me and Philip from Satisfied have been working together now
since the original Grip, and we're relaunching these. This is
me creating a product with somebody, an actual tangible like

(01:36:44):
beat them ups, official merch, and it's really the only
merch I ever do. Like, yeah, you won't hear me
ever talk about shirts or anything else. This is what
I care about. This took a lot of work, a
lot of time, a lot of energy, which is why
I'm pushing it so hard. And two here on the
podcast specifically, we have nose sponsors. I still can't get sponsors. Really,
I'm trying, man. So if you want to support, go

(01:37:06):
to Satisfy, get a beat Up's grip, or even if
you don't want mine, you can get the black one,
which obviously looks really nice with the switch because it
all blends in. If you don't want yellow poppin' on
your switch. I like color personally, and my signature is
on it. Oh but if you just want to get
a black one, Cote beat them ups will still get
you fifteen percent off. I'm pretty sure. And yeah, it

(01:37:27):
obviously supports me, and I'd really appreciate it, and I'm
really excited for you guys to get your hands on these.
And it makes I gotta tell you, it makes it
so much better. I've been trying to play the switch
to raw, and it's better than Switch one. It's better
because it's bigger, it's niceer to hold, but it's still
flat like a pancake. Well, we were playing Merry Card

(01:37:48):
upstairs all on our portable. I put it. I put
it down on the table. Yeah, because yeah, because your
hands were hurting. My hands were, you know what, they
wouldn't hurt if I had that. I was hodding it
though I do the same thing on the train too.
I put it down on my lap and I'm like, yeah,
I can't does this super chat mean you'll send me
a grip because I'm a Patreon, I don't know if

(01:38:10):
it means that. It also depends where you live. We
can do giveaways though, for sure I can line up
a giveaway. I was going to give some away at
too many games, so whoever was coming right? Yellow looks
super clean, So this is the last thing I'll say.
But the reason why I went with yellow, I'll show you.

(01:38:30):
Actually there's a reason why I went with yellow even initially,
or yellow and blue in general. I mean, yellow and
blue is my colors. They kind of always have been.
But the reason why I went with yellow as the
main color is because when it's on the switch, it
frames it. And if you go to my channel, my
channel has been updated with a new banner, but the

(01:38:51):
banner before was also predominantly yellow. My banner and my
logo has always had a yellow frame. So even the
beat him Up the lot has a yellow frame a
yellow border. So my thinking was, if I made the
grip yellow, you're kind of bordering your switch yellow the
same way the Beat him Ups logo is bordered by yellow.

(01:39:11):
And then you'll also get a beat m Up's logo
on the back. So when you look at the yellow
the yellow grip with the beat Him Up's white logo
on it, it looks like my channel banner. Essentially. That
was the that was the thinking behind it. I've told
that before, but it's been a long time. Yep, all right, cool,
thank you for that, Thank you, thank you everybody. I'd
say links below, but I don't think I haven't all right?

(01:39:36):
King where like going overtime? I'm kind of vibing. It's
four thirty, though, when did we start two thirty? It's
been a while. Let me see what I have here.
There's a couple of things we're going to touch on,
and then we should probably get out of here because
you've got to get you've been here twenty four hours now. Actually, yeah,
that's true. I've been here forty four hours. Sorry about that.
I hope everyone's had a good time today. And I've

(01:39:56):
done a pretty good job at switching here. I feel
bad about some of it. I feel like i'men doing
a good job. But I want to talk about this,
and bingal you too wanted to talk about this too,
So Nintendo banned my switch to don't try the MiG switch.
This is definitely worth talking about because I made a
whole video on my channel about the MiG switch and
that it was safe to use on your switch as

(01:40:16):
long as you followed specific rules and we'll talk about that.
But apparently which one. Yeah, yeah, but apparently on the
switch to do not do it. This is scatterbrain with
this video that's blowing up right now. And I feel
bad for him that his camera is not focusing on
his face. Um he Wow, his whole video is out
of focus. Can you focus something? This is your big moment,

(01:40:39):
you got quarter of a million. I feel bad for him.
This happens to me all the time. Yeah, he put
a MiG switch into his switch too, and I guess it.
God dud reshoot the video. Yeah, it made it so
he can't go online anymore. So for those that don't
know what a mike switch is, if I you'd never

(01:41:00):
watched my video or you didn't remember, it's a cartridge
that you can buy from a shady company that took
a long time to get here where it also you
can buy a dumper with it, funny word, I know
where you can put your switch cuts into it. You
can dump the files and the RUMs you can dump
them onto the MiG cut, put the MiG cut in
your switch, and run them off of that. The advantages

(01:41:23):
you can dump like every game you want, any game
you want onto it, multiple games onto it, and you
have one cartridge all your games. So here's the video
I made. I mean, I'll talk about it. The way
I did it was every game card that you buy,
every game that you buy has a specific serial number
to your game. So for me and the way that

(01:41:43):
it works technically, how it should work legally and morally,
it's as long as you're dumping your own games, the
license that you've already paid for, and you're putting it
onto something else, and you're just running that same license
off of the same thing. Like, it's just just you're
playing the same license. Yeah, Nintendo, when you go online
or you play that game on your switch one, it
would just read as the license that you won't Yeah,

(01:42:05):
it's not a duplicate licens. It's not a duplicate. So
as long as you don't sell the MiG switch with
the license, or you even sell your old your cartridges,
now you don't need it, right, which would mean two
people have the same license and they're playing online and
Nintendo is gonna flag that pretty quickly, right, as long
as you're all doing it in house, that's morally and
legally okay. Yeah, And Nintendo didn't have a way at

(01:42:29):
least on the switch one of telling whether or not
you were using a MiG switch, but apparently tell the
serial numbers on the switch one. Yeah, well yeah, okay,
but apparently and possibly due to certain YouTuber's signal boosting
it at the time, Sorry about that, Nintendo put in

(01:42:51):
Sorry about that, scatter Brain on YouTube. Apparently Nintendo put
in some better protections in place that literally looked for
Mike switches, Like I wouldn't even be surprised if Nintendo
ordered a mix switch, if they got a MiG switch
in house, they definitely did.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
They're definitely that's in their best interest. Yeah, to do
They probably do that with a game shark back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
They most likely bought one or got their hands on one,
broke it down, went into it, figured out how it boots,
what it does, and then found a way to detect it.
Installed that hardware onto the switch to and they've already
activated the software or whatever to block people as soon
as they boot up the mike switch. That makes sense.
That's my theory. So if you watch my video and
you know up grabbing a mix switch, I would say,

(01:43:35):
use it on your switch one. I would use it
to back. I mean even now, I'd say be careful
because I don't know what they can do post update,
but only use it on switch one. If you're going
to use it, use it the way I said to
use it right back up your games, run your library
off a card. Maybe only use it when you're offline,
you know, use it on trips, on road trips, on

(01:43:56):
a plane. Do not put it in your switch to.
You're gonna end up like scatter brain him. And he's
so scatter brained he didn't even focus his cameras. Damn.
That's mean. Damn, that's mean. It happens all the time.
It happened in my It happened in my unboxing video,
like my top camera wasn't focused for so much of
the video, and I uploaded that. So I'm only kidding.

(01:44:19):
I'm only kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
So it is his account now banned on the switch
one too, So I actually haven't watched the video. All
I know is his switch to can't go online, which
it's I mean, that's what the title says too, is
my switch to that's like a that's like a a
soft brick.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I'll call it a soft brick. Now, can you fix that? No,
even if you completely reformat, you would have to reformat it.
But would that work because the console itself would still
have a serial number attached to it, and that serial
number was so pain when you went online.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
So I mean, I'm not sure, but you could technically
reformat it. The problem that arises is to reset it
factory reset it and do a format. You need to
connect to the internet anyway, and the console won't leave you. Yeah,
that's true, So it's a soft break. The only way
to get over this is to literally call Nintendo and
beg them to do.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
It for you. So here's my thoughts on this. While
there is a way to do how it, to do
how I did it, to do it technically morally legal,
I do think, especially in Japan, I think their laws

(01:45:37):
are different. It's illegal in Japan, and I think even
just dumping your ROM and modifying your RUM in the
way where you're moving it somewhere else illegal in Japan.
I think even I think in Japan even that is
technically illegal. So they're in their right to do it.
But even I will say of saying Nintendo's defense, even
though people hate when I come to Nintendo's defense, and

(01:45:58):
remember I'm the guy that made a whole video you're
on the mix switch and how to do it legally,
and that it was okay and that I was doing
it right. I'm on your side. But to play Devil's advocate.
Doing it my way is probably not the way most
people do it. I think most people probably buy the
meg switch because they want to get RUMs from online,

(01:46:21):
or they want to dump a bunch of files and
then sell their cards, or they want to pirate games. Okay, yeah,
you know, I would say most people. There might be
a large use case of people doing it my way,
especially after my video, and that are too scared to
do it any other way. But I mean, like you
can use this for piracy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And Nintendo's

(01:46:44):
whole thing right now is anti piracy, and that whole
thing has always been Every company is antipiracy. It's just
whether or not they can actually keep a handle on it.
And by the way, they found a way to fix
the MiG switch, which is really in their best interest
to do. They don't owe it to you to help
you find a way of dumping roums and download you know,
it's in their best in so it makes sense. But

(01:47:06):
they've only blocked the mid switch. I mean like people
will find another way. Oh yeah, there's always another way.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
Well, there's people who hack the switch twenty in for
in the first twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
It's only a matter of this happens every time. It
happens all the time. Happens every time there's a new console.
The newest console iteration fixes all of the hacks that
are in place right now. They find a way of
addressing all of it. And then the smart, brilliant people
that I don't even understand how your brain works, within
twenty four hours, you'll find a new way of doing it.
And it's a challenge to you. It's almost like a

(01:47:36):
plash sic pleasure that you take in hacking the breaking software.
The switch one was hacked with a paper clip, true,
which is nuts. I don't even know how you come
up with that. Then Sender were just giving you challenges, right,
It's like every eight years you build the most elaborate
Lego set, you build the Avengers tower, like the six

(01:47:57):
foot tool one, and then every eight years and send
it comes along, they pick it up, they smash it
against the wall and they go do it again. And
you're like, well, I like legos. I'm a big Spider
Man fan, so yeah, I guess brick by brick. Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
That actually sucks to get the account banned because that
does Like can you imagine having like like I have
what one hundred games on my switch?

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
Yeah, I'd be pissed to be fat his videos blowing up.
It has a quarter of a million views. If it
keeps getting videos views like that, he'd probably just buy
another switch with the ad revenue. Eventually, that's true, Keep
helping them out, keep watching the video or or.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
I don't know, if you put it in the dog
or you can possibly get the switches that were stolen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Oh, we should talk about that. There are so many things.
Millions of dollars with the switches were stolen. Let's just
do a three hour episode. Oh my god, when do
you want to leave?

Speaker 5 (01:48:54):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
I mean I can leave in whenever. Hold on, let
me see here. What did I put it? Donkey Kong?
Stellar Blade rumor apparently Stellar Blades getting a switch version.
Oh sick must have a rumor. I don't know if
it's true, Well, is it even on the PS four Celeblade?

(01:49:17):
It doesn't matter the switch to it's more powerful than
PlayStation four, of course. People. You know. Also, you optimize
a game for the console. Now it works, it works. Yeah,
you could put Stellar Blade on PlayStation four if you
really wanted. That's true. You just wouldn't look good, you
wouldn't run good. Switch to verse, switch one battery. Thousands

(01:49:40):
of switch to stolen. It's a TikTok. Well I sent
it to you. Yeah, why is it a tich took
It's by NBC News. Give me an article. That's fine.
I don't think the audio will play. I want it
known that I fixed the audio for today. We didn't.
We didn't call him. We didn't call him. You want
to call him after this, okay, remind me to do

(01:50:00):
it though. Okay. Thousands of switch to consoles stolen from
a truck. So uh, to give you a long story short,
it was a game stop truck. Yeah, game stop, a
truck on the way to game stop. They're not catching
a break this one pictured here. When deputies arrived, they
determined that two thousand, eight hundred and ten Nintendo switches

(01:50:23):
had been stolen at the back of the trailer at
some point. These devices each have a serial number the
police and Nintendo can track, and it does have the
capability of bricking the device. Imagine they brick three thousand
switch twos. That that sucks. What a waste of hardware.

(01:50:44):
And wait, three thousand switch tos. That's five hundred of pop,
four hundred and fifty of pop. But was around there
five one point five million dollars I think it said? Damn, yeah,
I think that's what I read. I might be wrong.
It's because it's five hundred dollars times three thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
Does anything like the old days where you can just
steal a bunch of of consoles and sell them and
say this fell off the back of the truck boys,
just take it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
I know there's things in place now. Nintando says, if
you're on the hunt for a switch, stick to the
shops you trust. Yeah that makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,
someone in chat might correct me, but I'm pretty sure
the article was one point five million. Someone said one
point two million. You can probably rind up round up
plus tax at one point one point five million, that's

(01:51:28):
a lot. That's CREDI money I mean you could do
hard time for that. Yeah, I'm gonna call hand quickly
because I want to talk to him. And it's also
it was his birthday yesterday and we were going to
call him yesterday and I spent so long figuring out
how to connect my phone. Are you going to switch
the scene? It's just been on me? Hello? How long
was it on you for a while? Sorry? Let me

(01:51:48):
see if this still works? Yep, I was testing that
before we call ham. Listen to this?

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Did you?

Speaker 6 (01:52:07):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
That's super Mario Cott. I started interesting TikTok the other day.
That was it said that the Super Mario Cutt theme
song has been the melody or whatever the word is
has been reused in every Mario cut and like redone.
And I didn't notice it's in the news. I was like, well,
they didn't do it for Mario cott World. They did.

(01:52:27):
It's in here. It's the Oh oh yeah, you told
Let me see if I can find it. Hold on,
it's not this part. It's after this. I think, dam
then and then and then Nana and then oh shit, Okay,

(01:52:54):
yeah I hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
I hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
How cool is that? I didn't I didn't put it
two and two together because I know that original theme.
Let me go back so you can hear it again.
That's not letting me boait the tempo. The tempo seems
different though. Yeah, well they I don't know what the
word is, not melody they did. They twist it. They

(01:53:17):
twisted it, he mixed it. I wish I had these closer,
back to back. I'm taking forever to find it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
I've heard this in a lot of Maria cards. So
double Dash and Delaxe the last few that I played before.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
I'll hear it again. Okay, I see what they did.
Oh wait, no, here it is. Maybe maybe it's all
the same. It's after that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:56):
Introm There it is there, it is there, it is
there you go, there it is Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
The Marrio carr Also, this soundtrack goes incredibly hard. That
this is an amazing you know, that's where the eighty
bucks came from. From all that composing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
There was another TikTok I saw about how they mashed
another song into it. It was cool. Sorry, sorry about that.
I feel embarrassed. I got the wrong part. I was like, listen,
I was saying, I hear it, so I was like,
I know, it's there. So I'm just gonna play along
because I heard it on the TikTok, but I'm having
trouble hearing it now and I just kept acting like
I could hear it. All right, I'm gonna try calling

(01:54:44):
him real quick. I just want to talk to him
about why he left, because we never talked about it
on the show. See if he answers, because I told
him I would call him in fifteen minutes and that
was two hours ago. Hopefully he does. Let's see. Oh,
you'll be so proud of me right now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
I I dude, if the stream can hear me right now,
I'm so proud of you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
You know what I've done?

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
What have you?

Speaker 6 (01:55:13):
How did you do an audio routing situation that's made
this possible.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
We're bluetoothed in to the to the to the roadcaster. Yeah,
I can even. I can even control your audio now
like you're a Oh, there's a channel for it. Although
the one thing I'll say, wait, can you does it
sound like can you hear bingo? Bingle? Whisper hemn whisper?

Speaker 6 (01:55:36):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
Yeah, I can hear him.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Yeah, I heard him whisper yeamn? Do you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
Do you hear that seah, I heard it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Yeah, so we're coming through the shore mics as well.
You can hear us through the shores.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
I know. Happy birthday, buddy, Oh thank you yesterday. Yesterday
cool yesterday for your birthday. And then we got a
blackout the ten hours. Yeah that did happen, all right,
So tell the people what you're doing right now.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Right now, I'm a cases general thor when somewhere in
the middle of Illinois.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Yeah, because you're you're currently doing.

Speaker 6 (01:56:15):
What I am currently driving a U haul for U
Haul from New York City and Diego, California, with my
entire life packed up in the back of it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Yes. So for everybody that was thinking that I fired
Ham again, I didn't fire Ham. He is moving to California.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
Wait what, Well, I was just gonna say this because
I made the decision to move California after you fired me,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Because what's going on right now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
He's brutally from the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Hands moving to Calgy. We forgot to talk about it
last week, but he uh, you mind if I say
you want to say you say.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
You could say about it before already about what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
Yeah, okay, with my.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
Friend right now. I am.

Speaker 6 (01:57:06):
I'm moving to uh San Diego because I am going
to be the production manager for pay Money Will Be.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Yeah, I thought you want to sit here.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Yeah. So if you guys don't know whyb it's one
of Ham's long longest friends. I don't know how long
You've been friends, way longer than I've known him, and
he uh maybe. Wabbi is one of the largest Twitch
streamers on the platform and a very large creator. He
often goes life to like fifteen thousand people. Yeah, and
uh yeah, he's been friends with him for a long time,

(01:57:38):
and he wanted him to come out and manage essentially
do what Ham was doing for me, but fan because well,
well not really we we them and then a lot more. Yeah,
not really. You and I had a very like symbiotic
just kind of like you came and helped me put
on a podcast. You're yo, you're going to be You're

(01:58:00):
going to be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
We had a light arrangement. My my arrangement for Webbie
will be very heavy, very heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:06):
You're like organizing whole streams and events and like an
actual production for sure. Yeah, full time things. So very
proud of him, very excited for him also him.

Speaker 6 (01:58:18):
Despite despite the fact, I have to say, despite the
fact that that Webbie is one of the biggest platforms,
biggest streamers on the platform, et cetera, et cetera. Right, yeah, like,
and a lot of my audience on Twitch especially comes
from like him or just like being tangent.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
Like a lot of like there's a lot of crossover there. Right.

Speaker 6 (01:58:40):
It's interesting because lately, just as I leave the Nintendo podcast,
there's been like an influx of.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
People on like my Instagram, dms and people who like
have been following me on Twitch saying that found me
on Nintendo.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
Yeah. I mean, well, you've been on the show every
week and popping up on my main channel, and.

Speaker 6 (01:58:57):
I'm appreciative of the opportunity, is all I'm trying to say.
It's very nice, and you've been saying it's been very nice,
and I appreciate it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Like it was a very special time you and I
shed together, and I definitely wish we had more of it.
And again you you saved the show and you kept
it going, and I I appreciate.

Speaker 6 (01:59:19):
You, but I just all I did was push you
in the right direction. At the end of the day,
you saved your own show.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
You know, I you will be solely missed.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
All I did was make you not quit you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
You will be slowly missed. I miss uh. You know,
we were really were We were getting somewhere with the friendship.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
You know that's true. Yeah, well it can still go places,
you know. It's just gonna have to be long distance now,
which is hard, but we can make it work. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Yeah, I'm proud of you, and what you're doing is
bigger and better and more exciting. And you so many
of your friends are out there in California too, and
I'm proud of you, and I wish you the best
and we love you. And anytime you want to call
into the show, especially once you get settled, you're more
than welcome to.

Speaker 5 (02:00:05):
Hell.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
Yeah, of course I will. I miss you guys a lot.
You and Bengal and Kim, Sticky Joe, everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
As you to him. I was seeing you. I was
seeing you every week. It feels as uh as sad
as it does when Bub left, and because you know,
I was seeing him every week. And it's like you
see someone, you walk with them, you're chatting with them,
you're getting lunch, and then it's gone. You know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Yeah, it's a said, it's a say, it's a happy said.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
It's a happy sad because I'm I'm very happy for
you and it's what you had to do.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
It's to come, for sure.

Speaker 6 (02:00:37):
But at the same time, I will miss being on
the pod as often as I was so mm hmm.
I had a great time there, and it's honestly, the
pod is also part of the reason why I got
the job that I got in the first place, because.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
It helped me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
Honestly, what would you do without?

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
You know, no, I die. Honestly, I'm gonna pay you
half my salary, dude, I hope you do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
I need it, the show needs I will.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:01:02):
Yeah, So you know, Bob, I'm here to help you
in your heart, in your financial your time with financial hardship.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
Definitely having it. I don't. We haven't even really talked
about the fact that I have a hole in my
ceiling and my shower is being torn up right now.
You know, bub Bub left and moved out to Long Island.
Scoot left the show and moved out to California. You've
left to California. How long is it before Bingle moves somewhere?
Do you think I don't want to go in how
long till he's in Cali with you?

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
I mean, what if? What if.

Speaker 6 (02:01:36):
Bingle's way to New York to live in California?

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
That's true? Say no, that's not interesting, say Muzzarella, Mutz
the you go all right, we gotta we gotta get going.
We've we've been live like three hours. I gotta pee.
I I have to go. I gotta pee real bad

(02:01:59):
talk about we've been vising we had on the bonus
yet yeah, this is main episode. I well, don't bring
that up right now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
I love you guys so much.

Speaker 6 (02:02:13):
I love you too because I'm stopped right now.

Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
So well, I hope you enjoy the rest of your
drive across wherever you're going.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
Okay, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
Cool. But if we lose Wood instead, I leave the
show and then it's just KIVI and Bingle and I
moved to California. Damn we take over. We really do
have to get out of here. There's just been so
many things. There's this now I g n oh, oh
too much water. And the tent I switched to is

(02:02:50):
a vital upgrade over the original. It's that the only
way you've been able to play games for the last
eight years, but improvements that are most mostly playing catch
up and a big price jump makes it about as
exciting as a long overdue phone upgrade in the largest
scheme of things seven out of ten. They officially rated
the switch to a seven out of ten. Now some people,

(02:03:11):
including our friend here OJ, who by the way, I
didn't talk about this on the show, but OJ ended
up messaging me and we chatted for a while after
that episode, where I was like, I think he hates me,
and he was like, I don't hate you, and we
talked it out for a while and we're friends. We've
been friends for a long time. I think there was
a miscommunication and a misunderstanding. Um, they gave the PlayStation

(02:03:34):
Portal an etail OJ once again with the dub here
in the one up, though, I gotta say they gave
the Portal an eight for now. It's a great device
that represents the best current solution for PlayStation remote play.
Say for a few baffling caveats, I'd call this a
must own device for every PS five owner who enjoys
playing handhels. Look, I know IGN's weird because it's like

(02:03:56):
different people review different things, but in what realm of
wo who at IGN is still playing the PlayStation portal?
Is this reviewer? Have they even got it charged? Mine
is dead in a drawer right now. I don't touch
the thing, and I you know, I liked it just
fine when it came out, too, But rating that higher

(02:04:17):
than the switch a whole new console capable of so
many things, or a console that streams a console you
already have, Yeah, that's crazy. That's bizarre to me. I
don't know why he linked this one. I mean, it
just says the switch to has to face a problem.
The original didn't handheld gaming pieces. I'm not sure how
that's relevant, because that's just this person's opinion, and they're
not technically wrong. I just feel like they did face

(02:04:40):
They did face it, they faced it on and then
they did a pretty good job. They kept the price
at a good point. This is bizarre. Also, I wasn't
going to go in on this too hard if it
was my boy. It's not, but it's not. It's not
my guy. I wonder what he would have read it.
So I have this. I have a friend at IGN
now Logan. We bonded over the that the terrible score

(02:05:04):
we both gave Mario and Luigi Brothership, if you remember,
if you find out of ten, I want to get
him on the show. Actually, he's their resident Nintendo reviewer
and he's also the head of their Nintendo Nintendo podcast
over at IGN, and this wasn't him. Actually, I want
to talk to him about it. I'll try to try
and call him. I'll try and get him on the
show next week. Okay, he's been meaning to come on.

(02:05:26):
I'll try and get him on the show next week
and we can talk about that. He probably won't be
able to say much because he can't really go against
his own Yeah, but I also don't want to get
him in trouble. I want to know if I can
at least get his score. I'd want to know at
least if he can tell me what he would rate it.
He might do that I get. I say he would
give it a high eight, low nine. What would I
give the switch to? Probably a seven? Now what would

(02:05:54):
I give it? I don't know. If I could give
it it. Can I give it a ten? I don't know.
If I could give it a ten, I wouldn't. I
would give it a ten, just because the last night
last night proved it is not a ten. Okay, two
and a half, two hours of battery life. We were
we were praying this thing wouldn't die on us. Maybe
once they do an upgrade of a battery, I could

(02:06:14):
give it a ten. It's at least an eight, for sure.
I give it a.

Speaker 4 (02:06:21):
I give it a high eight, a very high low nine,
I got a. But also also like as a pure
console thing, this thing's awesome, Like it is awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
Yeah, I don't know, like joy cons are great. This
is like my favorite part about it other than the battery.
I can't think of anything wrong with it. Like the
kickstands pretty good. I know people are really upset about
the O Lead. I really do think that's something that
is blown out of proportion because this time around we
have HDR. It has HDR and it actually makes the

(02:06:53):
colors really pop. Yes, so like sure the blacks on
the O Lead look nicer. They were richer, but the
colors now are better, like the bloom of like the
neon lights and cyberpunk look way nicer, you know. And
it also like the trade off here, like yes, the
switch screen isn't an olead, but now that we have HDR,

(02:07:14):
it means when we dock it on an O lead TV,
we also get HDR in So now DOCT you have
HDR O lead If you have an O lead, if
you care about OLEAD that much, right, you have that possibility.
Whereas handheld, Sure you're losing the OLEAD, but you're still
gaining HDR. So technically when it comes to docking, you're
getting more out of it because you don't have an

(02:07:35):
O lead when you dock, no, and you get the
one twenty frames.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
Not that that's screen related, but it helps. It helps
smoothing up frames though that one twenty hurts. It helps
moving our frames.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
Would I prefer O lead and HDR of course, but
I had this conversation so many times leading up to it.
OLED screen is expensive, already complaining about spending five hundred.
You want to spend five fifty. You want to spend
six hundred. No, I didn't think so, so I think
the trade off made sense. If it wasn't O let
though it's just being honest and the battery didn't suck,

(02:08:09):
I'd go nine. Yeah, I think because it's not those things,
Oh go a high eight yeah, Hyat, I think it's respectable, Hyatt.
So it was a seven? Really that bad. I mean,
it's one off what we're giving it. I think it's
bad because they gave the portal an eight.

Speaker 4 (02:08:24):
That's there is no world where this is worse than
a portal. The portals are five at best. The portal
is a worse version of what you can do on
a PlayStation five.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
You can do that on your phone. You can do
that on your phone. Why do I need a portal
for that? I can literally plug in control. And actually,
even funny you mentioned that because in their review here
it says that it feels like a long overdue phone upgrade. Whereas, yeah,
the portal, which they gave an eight, you can do
it on your phone. True, you care about phone so much? IGN,
Yeah don't. I don't agree with that. To be fair,

(02:08:58):
and I will say this, I will to be fair.
And I had this conversation with Logan as seven at
IGN means good. That's their weird rating. Is A seven
means good, and then I think an eight means like great,
and a nine means like incredible, and a ten means perfect.
Ten should be I think a six is I think
six is mid or average or something. So it's just

(02:09:20):
above average and mid into good. And they think it's good.
Well five ym five is mid. Yeah, five or six
is mid. So they are saying it's good. They're not
saying it's bad. They're just saying it's not. It's not
just annoyed that it's worse than a PlayStation. Also, seven
is just too low in general. Seven is like you
wanted to give it as you're calling it mid, but

(02:09:42):
you're too afraid to do it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:43):
I am, I am, I a weird weird of saying,
like I feel like I feel like someone pays them
for higher reviews sometimes, Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
No, yes, no, I don't think so. You don't think
so because I feel like Intendo it doesn't really need it.
I don't think so only because one, it's illegal and
I highly doubt they're doing anything legal. And two people
accuse me all the time of being paid by Nintendo
when I give something a good score or a bad
score or whatever, like I get paid enough. And it's
like I hear that so much that when someone tells me,

(02:10:16):
do you think Idean's getting bag, I'm like, no, no,
you just think that because you don't agree, which is
what happens with my content all the time. Yeah, true, Okay,
we got to get out of here. I'm sorry we're
going so long. Let me just make sure I hit
everything I care about. We have more for the bonus though.
Fake me is crushing a Nintendo band switches Stellar Blade
rumor Metroid is out, ign switched staple. Are you talking

(02:10:38):
about the thing on in London? Oh, the Metroid is
out now? Yeah, we can show that really quickly. But
I'm not even gonna have a cold conversation about this.
But yeah, that's money. They put up a thing in
the subway in London of Metroid Beyond and it says
out now. So people are now speculating what that means,
although I don't know if we'll find it in the

(02:10:59):
comments here, but someone pointed out, I don't think you
can see it here. You can't. There's a Mario cut
one next to it that has the same out now logo,
And so people think that whoever was putting these up
or whoever made these just copy pasted and got confused
and thought that this one was out. Yeah. Either that

(02:11:19):
or it's about to drop any second. Imagine we get
shadow dropped Metro, like the direct comes out and they
shadow drop it. That would be so I would lose
my next month. That could be possible. Next month, next
month could be possible. It can't shadow drop much sooner
than that because it would have leaked already. If the
games were in the stores, someone would have given that away.

(02:11:39):
There ain't no way.

Speaker 4 (02:11:40):
I also feel like they wouldn't shadow drop this. They'd
make a big stink about it. Right, well, they kind
of are already. Um, they would make a big stink
about it. There's no way they shadow dropped that game.

Speaker 1 (02:11:54):
Yeah, they're gonna make a big stink about it. Okay, Okay,
there's so many things. One last thing I want to say.
I've seen people retweeting this a lot. I got retagged
in this a lot. Remember when this was a controversy
three point five million units later. I don't know how
many times I have to say this one. It wasn't

(02:12:15):
a serious tweet. It was some people might get a
bit confused. That's all they wrote too. I was very
clearly not talking about the three point five million people
that were waiting on Target at midnight online to pre
order this thing, people lining up at game stop to
pick one up. Yes, the employees knew what they were

(02:12:38):
handing out. Yes, people knew they were going to go
get the switch to at launch. I am the guy,
by the way, the same guy that has been saying
for a year that this launch will blow the Switch
one launch out the water. True, like the I predicted
this three point five million, not to this extent. To
be honest, I never knew it was going to be
this crazy, but I knew it was going to be huge, huge.

(02:13:01):
In no way did I think that in a grand
scale that this thing was going to tank because of
the boxes, or even that launch was going to fail.
I thought that come this Christmas, when Grandma goes out
to buy one for Timmy, he might be getting an
O lead until the stores open back up on the
next non public holiday when they get to go back
in and trade it for a switch to. Yeah, that

(02:13:21):
might be. I think that might happen in some houses
across the world.

Speaker 4 (02:13:27):
There might be some sort of trying to get rid
of their switch one stocks too, so they're like selling
it for cheaper and Grandma's like, oh it's unsae.

Speaker 1 (02:13:33):
I actually got tagged in a tweet a lot of
times that had a set that had several thousand likes
some random user on the internet. They had no pictures unfortunately,
but they tweeted. They were like, dead ass, just sent
my aunt to the store to get me a switch
to and she almost came back with a switch one.
Yeah that makes sense, It makes sense.

Speaker 2 (02:13:51):
I was.

Speaker 1 (02:13:52):
I didn't want to engage with it because there was
no proof, there was no pictures. But yeah, I got
tagged in it a lot because it was blowing up
and people were like, people beat him up to an apology.
You don't it doesn't matter. That will happen though. Some aren't.
Some mom, some dad, some kid, someone is gonna get
confused because if you go to the store and they're

(02:14:13):
out of the switch too, and they only have the
switch one, and the switch one looks like the switch to,
someone's going home with a switch one thinking it's the
new thing. It's just gonna happen. I promise you, what's
gonna happen to one person, to at least one person
get it. One kid this Christmas will get the wrong thing.

(02:14:35):
I want to see when they're opening up a box
and it's gonna I want that video to be shed
so bad so I can retweet it's gonna happen. I
have a feeling someone make that happen accidentally so that
I can retweet it. Gankee Carts Ryder Carts are sixteen.
We did it. God damn how long this might be
the longest episode ever. Actually no, it's only been two hours.

(02:14:56):
It's take a little over two. That might be the
longest episode ever. It might be. I have to be
so bad, I have to It is actually insane. We're dying. Guys.
Thank you so much. I'm gonna stop playing the music. Guys.
Thank you so much. Patreon scrowl. I need to update this,

(02:15:17):
but this is the VIP patreons. If you're a Patreon
and you need your name down here, I'm gonna add it.
But thank you so much to all of these patreons
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shouted out the grip, but in general, week to week,
it is the Patreons. And to be real, it's still
the patreons even today that make this show possible, that
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(02:15:39):
get up in the morning and wash and bathe myself,
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me a reason to live. Hell, I appreciate you so much.
And not only did we just do a two and
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take a break if you want. But I'm about to
go to a bonus episode for Patreons where we're gonna

(02:16:00):
talk about so many other things. I'll be there. I
just need to go. We're gonna talk about I gotta
pee as well. We're gonna talk about the switch to
verse switch one battery comparison. I want to talk with
Bingle about whether or not the operator a Time deserves
a remake. That's the main topic for the bonus episode.
Oh I got I got it. We're gonna get into it. Yeah,

(02:16:20):
I got I got this. You'll see you'll see see
on the bonus guys. Thank you so much, and also
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(02:16:41):
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And now is our time. It's the switch to time

(02:17:04):
where shining. We're doing long episodes. Come rain or hurricanes
or tornadoes. Apparently we're here live with you guys. Thank
you to Bengal who joined me today and made this
episode possible because Kim couldn't unfortunately after last night fell through.
You guys are the absolute best and I love you
and I will love you and I'm always gonna love you.

(02:17:25):
Show your camera when you're saying, well, I was waiting
for you. You'll low a third to run out. Oh yeah,
all right, everybody. Oh wait, we can't end now we
ended at the wrong time. Wait, let's do this one. Oh,
this one takes so long to play? What is it?
It's the second. For some reason, Eric made this really
long interlude that's dead quiet, and then I hear and

(02:17:47):
then all of a sudden, it just it just hits.
Hearing drums, you'll hear it when it hits. Bye, everybody.
I hope you'll have a great weekend and uh we'll
see you in the bonus. Bah bah bah bah uh
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