May 14, 2025 • 50 mins
We've been INVADED! From the New South Wales Police Force, Sgt. Tamara Weir and Detective Alex Burdett share hilarious police stories including British spy level driving skills, brothel bathroom observations, and MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome, welcome to Offbeat, the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we're
going to talk about ranks, we're going to talk about
flights man, We've we've got a lot of good stuff
and we're also you know, we're also going to talk
about policing down.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Under saying nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So sit back and relax and get ready to laugh.
I'm your host Steve Rutherford, co host for today's show,
Joe Ann Jackson. Hey, y'all, and we've got two guests
joining us in studio. Our two guests all the way
from down Under. I couldn't really do that that well,
(01:05):
oh it's going to be a rough day today. We've
got two guests joined us in studio. We've got Sergeant
Tomorrow where I got it right, Yeah I did. And
we've also got Detective Alex Burnett. So welcome ladies, and
again we've already let into this. Welcome ladies from down under.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Thank you good to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And you both work for New South Wales Police Force
police force in Australia. Yes, outstanding and tomorrow, okay, tomorrow,
you are a sergeant correct? How long have you? How
long have you worked there twenty one years, Okay, any
(01:51):
special assignment.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So I've done probably half my career in general duties
or patrol, and I've spent probably about five years in
kinato Is intelligence and another five years in criminal investigations.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Very nice counterintelligence stuff. Now, and this is all part
of your law enforcement what career?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yes, And he wants you to say, okay, career yes,
like I asked her to say squirrel earlier, squirrel.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel sound.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Joe, Now she has a little rural in the end.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, Alex, how long have you been in law enforcement?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Ten years?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Ten years? All the same, all their the new South Wales,
all the new South Yes, okay, and any special assignments
while you're there.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Started off in general dutys like everyone else, went up
to the detective's office. Now I sort of done a
lot of drug work, that sort of thing. And yeah,
we cover I mean more of a specialist unit that
covers the whole state.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay. So and again tomorrow, this is gonna this is
going to be the death of me today.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yes, any name, but you've also known tomoraw for what
five years.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now, quite some time more than that.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
We were discussing that, trying to figure out because I
met her in seventeen and I think you and Karen
met her.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
After well, we met in d C, Washington, d C.
During National Police Week and then after COVID you were
held against your will and your country for a couple
of months.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Or a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, you weren't able to make it back to Police
Week for a couple of years. But yes, we did
meet in Police Week and been friends ever since. You
were on actually on episode number four of the show,
almost a year to the day. Yeah, we interviewed you.
You were lounging in a hotel room bed in Hawaii
on your way back from.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I was studio this time.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's cool having you here, Welcome to Texas.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Texas is fun.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now you how long was your flight to get here? Long? Long?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
About fifteen hours?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Fifteen hours direct? When did you leave Australia.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
It's ten thirty on the fourth.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And when did you get to Texas ten thirty on
the fourth.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
Time?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Travel anything well, you know, Alex, you mentioned something earlier flight. Yeah, Alex,
anything exciting and or eventful. I think eventfuls probably are
a better word to use here. Shocking anything shocking happened
on your flight.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
I did have a bit of a jump scare on
the flight, so for a bit of context. On the
drive to the airport, we drove past a billboard for
the White Lotus TV show and I saw that it
was set in Hawaii and it was available on the plane,
and we're going to Hawaii later, so I was like, okay,
I'll just click on this.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
And the first episode, it's not really a spoiler.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
There's a character who's introduced as being very concerned that
he might have testicular cancer, and the introductory shot to
this character is.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
A close up, full screen image of his testicle.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
So I'm just sitting there, maybe like a foot away
from the screen, looking at some check I'm like, oh god,
can anyone who can see my screen? Is anyone looking
at my screen? Are their kids on their kids nearby?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Like?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Now, do you guys have the screen on the back
of the seat or are you using the phone? I
have to use back of the back of the seats.
Oh my gosh, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
All the children throw behind her. I don't know what
this is.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I had to cover the screen. I'm like, child, what are.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
You looking at?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
It?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Looks like, what kind of show is this?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
I didn't really look I didn't really look into too
much what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Just I was like, I don't know what you're in.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I don't know this person.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's weird stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
We don't judge.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
You had to know me because I was getting all
the snacks for us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Wow. And you know, seeing something on your screen, wondering
if anyone else is looking at it, if you haven't
checked out episode fifty two yet, you need to check
it out. We've got a very similar story of an
officer looking at something questionable but he didn't know. He
didn't but hell made for a great story I did.
(06:31):
So again, welcome guys, and I'm glad you're here tomorrow.
It's cool that you actually made it in studio. And
again it is it is police Week and where we
I'll go up to d C. Yes, well it's the
time we get to hang out. It's also time we
remember those those officers here in the United States that
made the ultimate sacrifice in the past year and even
(06:54):
historically once they've done the research on and added to
our national law enforcement. So thank you too. From traveling
from Australia here for our national police Week in DC.
It's a great time and any of our listeners out there,
if you've never attended National Police Week, you need to.
You ought to sometime during your career. It's just it's
(07:16):
completely different up there.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, and you need to go and attend the multiple events.
There's many different events you can attend, the bagpipes, you know,
just the Capital Lawn. There's so many things you can
go and see. And I recommend that if you're going
to go, you go and you do that because that's
what Police Week is about. The other stuff is secondary, secondary,
but you need to check those things out. They're pretty
(07:41):
amazing that they can put on an event this big.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, this will be my eleventh year at Police Week.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
If that doesn't say yeah, it's worth a visit, it's
worth of fifteen what's probably nearly a twenty four hour
flight from Sydney to go, then it's definitely worth going.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, and you attend everything, Yes, you wear address uniform
and you go and you attend everything. So that speaks
volumes of what this event is about.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, So definitely, guys, if you've never never attended National
Police Week in Washington, DC, definitely sometime during your career
you need to experience that. But let's let's talk about this.
You come all the way from Australia to National Police
Week each year and we have so many questions in
regards to being an officer in Australia. You did tell
(08:29):
us on episode four that all of Australia is divided
into is it five or six states?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So we've got seven states and territories.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, I kind of got closed on that.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I think it's like six states in one territory or something, right,
five states, five states to territories.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, and so, and then you've got a federal system, right,
it covers everything. And how many co workers do you
guys have for New South Wales.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
We're currently sitting around twenty thousands.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So twenty thousand, yes, just for your state.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yes, Now you don't want to put out a message,
call me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
For somebody else, a city wide message.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Back to episode again. If you haven't heard it, check
it out. It's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So I have a question for you about area. So
if you were to take your state and compare it
to the United States, how much of the United States
would it take up?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think Land Saws is roughly about the same size
as Texas.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Dang, and that's one of the smallest states in the country.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, okay, land saws land size.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And you do have ocean.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, we're an island.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Two sides or two sides.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Of it.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Well you could be in the center like Nebraska or
Ohio or yes.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
On the east coast of New South Wales.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
He's old coastline.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There's places in Australia that don't have the ocean. There are,
and that's really sad geographically speaking.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, yeah, we're on an island. States, Damn, y'all are
a mess. And I mean policing. Policing in Australia is
a little bit different because when it comes to like
your firearms and stuff like that you got, you guys
leave them at work, right, most of us, most of
(10:27):
us and Alex you're you're a detective, so you you
are on call at points in which time you are
armed when you're on call, correct.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Correct, So we can respond immediately if we get called in.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, that's that. That is so much different than than
here in the States. But now, what is your what
is your gun crime? Like, I mean, do you guys
have a lot of murders related to weapons or firearms.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
In particular, I feel you're more likely to be murdered
by a knife than probably firearms.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
In Australia, there are obviously certain elements of the community
that tend to favor firearms over.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We do have spates of them when certain groups come
into conflict with each other, like rival gangs.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Do you guys have gangs?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Organized crime.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I like, you guys are holding back on us.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think they don't want us to know the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So it's a really great country, Come visit us.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, you tried to recruit me there a couple of
years ago, and I was like, don't you have like
great white sharks, the wild dogs in the dingo been
a snakes, eloys and spiders.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
In the city though, I remember.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They still have spiders in the city.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh yeah, the big ones, not the big ones that
you're scared of.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All right? Was it a bathroom frog?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
The kitchen spider, kitchen spider, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's right. Going back to episode four, you had a
kitchen spider. How is your kitchen spider doing well?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I've since moved, so no longer.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You didn't take him with you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I didn't know well established spider neglect spider abandonment.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, spider abandonment. Okay, we're going to try not to
hold that against you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I currently have a garden one that that counts.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, garden spider, big, big, huge spider, fangs, all this
kind of stuff, like six foot in diameter.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
White tail.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You just feed him, come out.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Bugs.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Might have been the one that came from my garden
because one the one in my garden had babies.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
They're raising spiders over there.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Oh, my spider had a litter of would you like some.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Up for adoption?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Three baby garden.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I don't do that much gardening, so they tend to
just look out one day, Oh there's a spider. I
look out like a week later, Why are there ten spiders?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not selling it to them?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Bringing spiders with you today? Didja?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm allowed to do that now?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, now I understand Alex. You you see a lot
of pranks at work, a few. You've seen a few,
and you had one in particular you were talking about
in regards to changing someone's auto correct in warrants.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Oh, so this is when I when I worked with Tomorrow,
We're working in the same office and we had a
guy in the office. It was a bit of a prankster,
and one day he someone left their computer unlocked, and
he went in and changed the autocorrect function on Microsoft
word so that every time the word police was typed,
it would automatically change to penis. So, unbeknownst to the
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officer whose actual computer it was he was put on.
He was on night shift one night and had to
apply to for a search warrant with some degree of urgency.
And just as he's about to send it off to
the court to get you know, the court, to get
signed off on, he realizes every time he's typed police
it now reads penis.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Ain't god he cut or we walked in.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Just as he'd realized it. He was just like in
a bit of a oh god, what have I nearly done?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What's on your mind, dude?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Something that we need to know about, brod.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
We have a field day with you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We don't judge here.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
No judgment.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Except people how they are. No judgment. Ah. And he
had to get the warrants signed off on, So you guys,
is it a magistrate that you guys have to have
signed the warrants or that's what we have here in Texas.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
We have registrars which I sort of how do you
explain what they are?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Are they like a judge.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's slightly less than a magistrate, but they've still got
the power too.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
They basically work in chambers.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
They don't actually appear in court, but they've got the
similar powers to what a magistrate does to sign off.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Think a JP higher than JP.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Someone they could say, officer arrest that man if they
were in their presence, none of them.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
No, no, we don't have to get approval from the
courts to go and arrest someone. If we believe we
have the grounds to arrest them, then we just do it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, if you got I mean, is a probable cause
you got? We use probable cause system in the US.
So if you have problem cause, believe in offense has
been committed.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Reasonable suspicion.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Wow, yeah, reasonable suspicion. See, we got probable cause. Reasonable
suspicion for US is down.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, I think we've got reasonable suspicion and reasonable belief. Yeah, sorry,
so it's belief you did belief.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We'll see in our magistrates are judges. They can actually
I mean sure, they sign off on warrants, search warrants,
arrest warrants, stuff like that, and there there's many, many
circumstances you can arrest someone without without a warrant, but
they also had the power in their courtroom to order
their to somebody just hey, officer, arrest him.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, stop acting up, or you're going to give you
twenty days and they'll just be like, yeah, I've never
seen that. Yeah, So if you go to a US court,
don't act like a fool because you.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Don't want to. Just don't get into trouble.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, well, maybe they're going to go and watch a
case cause you know, Diddy's trials started today. Apparently Jean
Puffy Combs he had rejected a plea deal.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
So yeah, I did not know that, probably because I've
been in a coma since.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I understandable, I mean a whole day.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Now. You guys have you've, like you said a moment ago,
you guys have worked together, and you guys have investigated
crimes together, interviewed suspects together. You mentioned the story to
me earlier, and I want you to I want you
to share this one. Tell me about the time you
guys did a joint interview on a on a suspect.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Okay, so I had an investigation from an incident that
happened quite a long time prior, and we were interviewing.
We were interviewing this guy in relation to it, and
during this interview he's answering quite detailed questions about things
he remembered around that period of time, but whenever he
(17:18):
was asked about the offense, he suddenly couldn't remember.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And convenient, yeah, of course, right, but also for context, yes,
suspect was quite elderly. He was in his eighties and
was quite hard of hearing. Allegedly, no, I believe he was.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
And at the time as well, there were some bushfires
going on, so there were helicopters overhead, and the room
was very, very echoe, So every time we'd ask him
a question, we would have to yell it at him
and then he would yell it back to confirm that
he understood the question before answering the question, are you
guys outside? No, inside, it was just a very echoe
(17:57):
interview room, and a lot of stuff was going on
outside too.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Didn't really help him trying to the bushfires.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
So then tomorrow comes out with this absolute gem.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Which was I asked this gentleman if he remembered having
sex with his wife and fair question, fair question. He
just kept yelling what back at me? So I had
to yell at him.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Do you remember having sex with your wife?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Which say Alex pulled back from the screen that records
and just bursting to burst out laughing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I had to try and remain professional.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Shaking and hoping I'm outside of them.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But he yelled it back at he did yell it
back at me.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Yes, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
How long did he go on?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just just a couple of minutes, A.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Couple of minutes of you asking if he remembered having
sex with his wife and him repeating that to you
and variations.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Of that good question.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Did he remember?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, surprise, I might be eighty years old.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
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Speaker 10 (19:30):
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Speaker 1 (19:36):
Today I wanted to bring up home insurance. We have
talked about this topic before, but I believe it's extremely
important information for homeowners. What advice would you give someone
in regards to home insurance.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Unfortunately, home insurances is necessary for all of us, and
I think a lot of times people shot by price
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in some bad situations if you unfortunately have to use
your home insurance. All insurances are changing, the level of
deductibles are changing, the amount of coverage is changing, the
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There's so many things in a policy that you need
to be educated about and what your coverage limitations are.
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hopefully somebody local. I know a lot of people use
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But try to find somebody local that you can call
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Well, and you you mentioned a deductible. That's kind of
a shocker. You said sometimes three and four percent, that
that's crazy.
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Speaker 1 (22:36):
And we're back back to more Offbeat, the light side
of law Enforcements. I'm your host Steve Rutherford, co host
for today's show, Joanne Jackson. Hey, y'all, and we're joined
with two guests in studio today. We've got Sergeant Tomorrow
where Hey, I said it right again, didn't I thank
(22:57):
you too. We've got Detective Alex Burdett. Hi, Alex, you
all right down there?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Okay, he's still awake.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
I'm struggling.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
It's actually tomorrow for.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Them, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh lord. All right. This this segment of Offbeat sponsored
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(23:41):
and then Joyne tries to throw me off by saying tomorrow, and.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm it's really today.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Wait a minute, what tomorrow is today?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
And today is tomorrow for them.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
For them, for them, but for me, today is today
a right and tomorrow's tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
There's a six, but it's actually the fair and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Tomorrow's Tomara tomorrow. Oh all right, And yes, our two
guests are here from Australia today, and thank you guys
for being here. It's awesome having you, having you in
the studio with us. And on the break we discussed
a few stories and tomorrow. I understand that you've ridden
(24:28):
in a vehicle with Alex before, and that Alex is
almost a professional driver. Yes, why don't you, Why don't
you elaborate tell us about her driving abilities?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So I didn't know this at the time.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's probably fairly early on we started working together and
I unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Let her drive.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
I'm no longer allowed to drive.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We had to go out and serve a brief of
evidence on a on an offender.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
In and I'm sorry you had to serve a way
a brief of evidence, like what is the.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
File?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It contains all the evidence you have against them.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Against them? You have to show it to them.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, we have to say it.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Well, so they have to be served a minimum two
weeks before a hearing date, so they've got time to
review all the evidence before them and then experience ice cream.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Sorry for Alex, all right, for the rest of the world,
ice cream.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Ice cream means get closer to your micro Ah, it's
more appropriate than others. Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So anyway, you have to show them everything that we've got,
so all the evidence that we have in a matter
against them.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you're not showing it to their attorney. You're showing
it to the suspect.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So I think in this case he was he was unrepresented,
so he was self represented, so we had to serve
it on him rather than a legal represent that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And so this offender lived in a.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
The world's narrowest.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
In an area with very narrow streets, and there were
vehicles parked on both sides of the street, so it
was really only one one lane. So Alex manages to
park the car relatively without issue. We went across the
road and we did what we had to do and
(26:35):
serve serve the brief on the bad guy. He continued
to remain standing out the front of his house as
he watched this walk back to our vehicle, given you
the eyeball, and then I mean I assumed Alex would
just pull out into the lane way and then reverse
back up the street, because I feel like that's what
(26:56):
all normal people, that's what I would do. But instead
she can She proceeded to do an Austin Powers style
thousand point turn in this teeny tiny little street, with
our offender standing right nearby watching it.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Didn't dinner.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I have never slunk down in a chair so much
trying to avoid being seen.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It is Alex hasn't driven since.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, no right down red, no left, un right red
less it's a sign.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is that true story, Alex?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Yes, But now I don't have to drive, so.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Extra strategic because she's not driving over here either.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Everything is on the wrong side.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I think she was from France once and I was
actually driving down the road and the lady's coming straight
at me. I'm like, whoa, And anyways, so I turned
around behind her. She makes it through an intersection driving
on the wrong side the intersection too, makes the right
hand turn, horrible, finding her finding get her stopped and
get up there, and yeah, she's speaking a different language.
(28:12):
And I was like gotcha. That's like, oh my god,
it's two o'clock in the afternoon. This lady's already in paired. No,
she she wasn't from around here playing gft W went
to the rental car place and jumped on the wrong
side the road.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Oops, like I'm left on right.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
We've had a couple of moments where we were going
to turn left and we like, wait, which one do
we need that one?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
That's one we need to be in.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Wait, let me see if somebody else is turning, so
I know where I need to go exactly exactly, Greg.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
To slow down so someone passes us and we can
follow them.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Very grateful for the people going in the same direction.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
If you do see one car going the wrong way,
don't follow that game.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't know which way is the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
State with the majority, and y'all have a rental.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Car right, Yes, Oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Is Alex driving ors are you No, It's definitely not Alex.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
She's doing great.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I drove us here.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
We've only nearly died twice with tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
One of them was not my fault.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
It was also about five hundred meters out of the airport.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I think it was another tourist driving that punched through
a red light and was turning right in front of
us as we were driving.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, greenlight, that'd be so sad. If you guys land
at the airport, you only make it, yeah, less than
a mile outside the gates.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
And yeah, passenger gave us this little wave like sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Now, Alex, you mentioned several pranks that you've seen at work,
and one of them involved emails.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Ah, the emails.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
This is I'm going to have to try this.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
So this is going quite a ways back and again
was due to somebody leaving their computer unlocked.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
See okay, let's public service announcement. Do you lock your computer,
lock your cell phones, lock your car, trusted hide the
children like any vehicle.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, okay, So anyway, this girl walked away good, went
to the bathroom or something, and in the meantime, someone's
gone on her emails.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
It's changed her email signature.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
And I don't know about you, but no one really
reads email signatures, right, They're kind of just a block
at the bottom, and you don't really think.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Too hard about it.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
And she sent emails to the bosses, she sent emails
to coworkers, she sent emails to absolutely everyone including to the.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Local hospital to get some medical records.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
And that's when she gets an email back from one
of the staff saying, hey, I think someone's playing a
prank on you. Check your email signature and it says
her name, her rank. I like feet, And then the
station she worked at it's easy to overlook.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Everybody's got there.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's a judgment free zone.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Judgment judgment free.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Then she's like scrolling through her emails being like, oh God,
how long has this been here?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
How many bosses have I emailed? Have any of them noticed.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I like feet? Any bosses walking around with no shoes on?
She likes feet?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
So I think we need to go to uh I
D and have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah feet, I don't get it, but yes, check your email.
That's another good morning. Check your email, make sure nobody's
tampered with it, and then by all means lock your computer. Yeah,
there's there's nothing better in law enforcement than do you
find a coworkers computer that is not locked, because we
refer to that as fair game. Cell phones, you guys
(31:51):
have also had pranks in regards to phones, right, the
phone system.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Oh yes, so there was there was one girl who
was I think she was away for a bit, and
when she came back, someone had changed their changed every
single phone in the office to rewrap to her phone.
So she was essentially the office receptionist for the whole
day and couldn't figure.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Out why everybody else is playing games on this.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
And this office is like long and thin, and essentially
if you wanted to talk to someone from one end
and you're on the other, then you'd pick up the
phone rather than walk down. So she's got her steps
up that day's doing laps's.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Just watching her like she's busy.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Why isn't anyone else's phone ringing?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's just good clean fun.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
No one's getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And as I understand, I don't know which one of
you wants to talk tell this story, but you've arrested
a suspect in the hospital before.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
H So when we were working together, you know, detective office,
we had a very old school detective sergeant that probably
hit his prime back in the eighties and never really
progressed past to that point.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So in this particular matter, the.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
News and our media unit were working together to publicize
an arrest for a murder suspect that was in the hospital,
and this detective sergeant decided, even though we had no
part in the investigation whatsoever, he wanted to be one
of the faces as the person going in to be
known for this arrest. We all know that guy.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Something's don't change between cotton.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yes, And so.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
He, along with two of our detectives from the office
who actually did the work, were filmed walking towards the hospital.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
So you got like media outlet out there. Everybody knows
what's going down.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yes, And on this particular day, he decided that he
wasn't going to wear his suit jacket, he wasn't going
to put his firearm on, and he actually walked into
the hospital wearing AirPods. So it really looked like these
two young detectives were taken dad out.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Rather than a high profile rest.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, we're checking our dad in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
He was released on day release. We're just returning him.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, we thought we could take care of him. We can't. Yes,
we've all we've all come across that officer. So well,
it's a little bit different here because nobody wants to
get caught on anybody else's body cam here, because you
you're got on the body cam here type up testimony
and now you're going to get Peanut the court because
now you've become a part of it around here by
(34:47):
just scatters see nothing now, any any crazy tourist stories tomorrow?
You you you've mentioned one in episode four you talked
crazy tourist that you had to remind her that she
was no longer in her country because she was kind
of acting a fool if you will. Yes, but added
(35:09):
any to the collection of crazy tourist stories since we
last spoke.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Not for me, but I think Alex might have a story.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Oh, I don't know about crazy. It was just a
bit of a misunderstanding. So we get a call for
suspected domestic violence incident. Someone's heard some yellings and slappings
and noises that makes them go, oh, you know, I
should probably call the cops.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Some kind of disturbance going.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
So we go there and it was actually just a
couple of tourists and they it was the last night
in Sydney and they just had decided to celebrate by
having very very loud sex.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
They were still sightseeing.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah, going out with a bank Yeah, okay, nothing, you
guys are fine.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I always wondered what happened. It goes on in Sydney and.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It usually stays there, but not on this occasion.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Sometimes sometimes it gets brought over again, you know. Well
and you guys, you guys are ahead of us, and
uh well from did you bring the winning load of
numbers with you? Yeah? You know, you always wish everybody
a happy New Year. Like I'm like, is she drunk
(36:22):
and she's on the wrong day, you know?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Or now was early?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
She's posted fireworks and stuff going on over there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, and we were we'd actually talked once last year.
You and I were sending messages back and forth trying
to figure out what time it was, and we finally
got to the point listen to her message. Just tell
me what time it is for you're at it's one o'clock.
What time is it there? Oh, it's this, you know,
So we get actually tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
See, I just message her whenever and she always replies.
So I just assumed that she doesn't sleep, she doesn't well,
and she just you know, she's always up and I
usually get a reply within a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Will be catching me on a night shift.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
You know, it's been a long night shift. When I've
sent you a lot of memes, you wake up and
you're like.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Videos, Now, how long a shift do you guys work?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I work twelve?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, do nine? Nine nine? That's odd number.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's unusual even for us. Most detectives
are on tens.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
So how does your kid?
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Does that mean you have to work like a half
a day?
Speaker 6 (37:36):
So it's a nine day fortnight, so it'll be for example,
Monday to Friday and then Monday to Thursday the next week.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Okay, So during the pay period you just get your
total hours in yep.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
The crowlence is across the six week, So stupid question.
Forty hours a week, right.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I think it's roughly eight, yeah, thirty eight hours, So
we do two hundred and twenty eight hours in a
six week period. So that can be a blend of
different shifts, shift lengths and that sort of thing. So
the shift times can vary, the amount of days that
you work can vary, but.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
They don't make you go back and forth between day
and night though.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I do, yes all the time, coming off a night shift.
After they turn around and backwork again.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
So it's nightly here. Where you're assigned to a certain shift,
it depends.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So patrols probably a little bit more structured than what
Alex is in. She's in a specialist squad, so it's
what the job requires as to when she's cold out.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But I got more set roster than what she does.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Quite frustratingly, bad guys don't keep their rosters, know right,
rid of them.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
But you guys are basing how many hours you get
in in a six week period.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Please tell me you don't get paid every six weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, we get paid fortnightly.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Okay, I'm trying to figure out what this word is
fortnite nightly.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I think didn't we discuss this last time? Every two weeks?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Every two weeks, that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Every two weeks right now, it's two weeks. It's not
just a game, it's a movie.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
It is a movie. A movie is a movie. Yeah,
it's got Jack Black, and it's got Aquaman. I can't
think of his name, Jason Momoa, Jason Momoa.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
As long as it didn't have some guys checking his testic.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's a kid's movie fully now, now, Alex, you you
mentioned that sometimes the kids, the the younger generation, the teens,
the kids in their twenties, sometimes they're God, how do
we even get to here. Sometimes they use their vehicles
to to engage in certain conduct.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Lookout point a lot of times with their parents and
don't really have anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Okay, well any stories going down that road, no pun intended.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
So in an area that I used to work, there
was a spot that was quite notorious for couples to
get quite amorous in cars. And one night we're just
driving along, we do a lap, we see a car,
the windows are all steamed up.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
We kind of tap tap tap, come on, guys.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
And the guy was working with had a quite jovial temperament,
like he's very very boisterous, very sort of friendly, and
as you know, these flustered eighteen to twenty one year
olds are sort of trying to frantically scramble to get
their close together. He's going like, all right, guys, what
are we what are we doing here tonight? As if
he has no idea, and this poor guy is just like, m.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
No, no, speak up. What were you doing? We we're
being intimate, being intimate? Whoa wait, well, we can't be
doing that here.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
And this area is also a popular fishing spot, so
there's all these fishermen just turning around and going what
is going on here? And sweaty teenagers trying to like
frantically throw themselves together and trying to scramble out of there,
and I'm just like, all right, Well, we drove off,
and about an hour hour or two later we do
another lap down that area. It's actually quite a nice
(40:57):
spot to look out over the water and we see
the costal there and with the hood pulped. So what's
happened is while they've been in the car, the battery's
gone flat and they've had to call one of their
parents to drive down jumps.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Not that car, mom, Dad. We were here to fish.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
This is not what it looks like. We're just friends, just.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
A couple of besties.
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We've got Sergeant Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Where is that a question?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That was like, uh, did I say your name right?
I'm doing great. And we've also got Detective Alex Burdett.
He said that right, Alex. Thanks for having a normal name.
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this this next topic here.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Oh me too. I had no idea like population or
visits are going to go up Australia.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yes, we're now working for the Australian Tourist District. Uh
we we learned that brothels are actually legal.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
How did I never not know that?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Obviously? Haven't come visit, have you.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Someday I'm
just going to show up and be like banging on
a door. Hey, do you know so and so some
police station go to.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I was going.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Some police station.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
There, and I can only imagine that those establishments can
bring forth some uh some interesting calls. Few ay. I
see Alex on the end smiling Alex, what's your best
call to brothel?
Speaker 5 (46:23):
So we don't get a.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Huge number of calls at brothels, but there was one
particular madam that was we were investigating for dealing drugs
and we wound up ultimately doing search warrant on the
apartment she was using as a brothel and the three
girls that were working there. As our specialist tactical resources
have gone in, there's one of the girls run towards
(46:43):
the bathroom. We've been like, all right, what's in the bathroom? Like,
what are we what are we dealing with? Yeah, anyway,
it turns out she'd actually do herself. That was why
she wanted to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
That's a good reason to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
You scared her so much she pooped herself.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, literally scared it.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
And the second girl, And I'll just add here that
I'm unfortunate enough to be the only female at this warrant,
so I'm with the task of searching everyone they've asked
me to strips the second girl. The second girl was
naked when they came in. She was actively with a
client at the time they came in. I was like,
where do you want me to search.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Wait, she was actively with a client whenever you guys
came in. But she's but she's no longer actively with
a client.
Speaker 7 (47:34):
Correct, Yes, they were. They were separated.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
They were doing a transaction upon initial contact d couples.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
They broke, they separated. Okay, they're separated.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
The connection and you got to do a strip search
on her.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
You didn't just like look at that guy and say, hey,
does she have anything?
Speaker 7 (47:59):
I think he searched you're pretty thoroughly.
Speaker 6 (48:05):
Then the third girl also needed to go to the bathroom,
so I've escorted her to the bathroom, and she was
having the opposite problem as the first girl.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Okay, now, so.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
She's sitting on the toilet screaming like.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Ah and then pop like tiny little rabbit pellets, and
then she'd repeat this scream tiny little rabbit pellet and
like she was screaming so much. I even asked her
if she wanted an ambulance.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
I was just not right.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
And then as well, like she wasn't really she was
not really listening to what I was trying to tell.
And none of these girls spoke a single bit of English.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
She was trying to concentrate.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
She was, but I've got some very very very limited Mandarin.
So I'm yelling at her and basic mandarin, and she's
yelling at me to stop yelling at her and Mandarin.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
And it was just a bit of a comedy of errors.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
Which is like, how did I what life decisions did
I make to wind up in this situation?
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Join the police.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
They said it'll be fun, said you'll meet no interesting people.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
So Brothels are legal in Australia.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Apparently.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Okay, we we learned something new every time, you know tomorrow.
We learned so much the first time you were on
about Australia, and I feel like we've just added to
our knowledge.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Now I agree.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Okay, one of these days we're we're actually going to
go the other way and we're going to go visit you.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Yes, now that you know Brothels legal, Steve has six
chicks in the barn, so oh.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Don't let them get out of that does not sound right.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
Well the other one who said you had.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Six chicks, okay, chickens again. It's uh, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's been pleasure having you on the show. It's been
a pleasure having you in our country.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
So and we'll see you in Please week. We'll see
you in Please week.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Absolutely so all right, guys, until next time, keep it real,
keep it funny, stay safe and watch each other six
Welcome, welcome to Offbeat, the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we're
going to talk about ranks, we're going to talk about
flights man, We've we've got a lot of good stuff
and we're also you know, we're also going to talk
about policing down.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Under saying nothing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So sit back and relax and get ready to laugh.
I'm your host Steve Rutherford, co host for today's show,
Joe Ann Jackson. Hey, y'all, and we've got two guests
joining us in studio. Our two guests all the way
from down Under. I couldn't really do that that well,
(01:05):
oh it's going to be a rough day today. We've
got two guests joined us in studio. We've got Sergeant
Tomorrow where I got it right, Yeah I did. And
we've also got Detective Alex Burnett. So welcome ladies, and
again we've already let into this. Welcome ladies from down under.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Thank you good to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And you both work for New South Wales Police Force
police force in Australia. Yes, outstanding and tomorrow, okay, tomorrow,
you are a sergeant correct? How long have you? How
long have you worked there twenty one years, Okay, any
(01:51):
special assignment.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So I've done probably half my career in general duties
or patrol, and I've spent probably about five years in
kinato Is intelligence and another five years in criminal investigations.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Very nice counterintelligence stuff. Now, and this is all part
of your law enforcement what career?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yes, And he wants you to say, okay, career yes,
like I asked her to say squirrel earlier, squirrel.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel sound.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Joe, Now she has a little rural in the end.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, Alex, how long have you been in law enforcement?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Ten years?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Ten years? All the same, all their the new South Wales,
all the new South Yes, okay, and any special assignments
while you're there.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Started off in general dutys like everyone else, went up
to the detective's office. Now I sort of done a
lot of drug work, that sort of thing. And yeah,
we cover I mean more of a specialist unit that
covers the whole state.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay. So and again tomorrow, this is gonna this is
going to be the death of me today.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yes, any name, but you've also known tomoraw for what
five years.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now, quite some time more than that.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
We were discussing that, trying to figure out because I
met her in seventeen and I think you and Karen
met her.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
After well, we met in d C, Washington, d C.
During National Police Week and then after COVID you were
held against your will and your country for a couple
of months.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Or a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, you weren't able to make it back to Police
Week for a couple of years. But yes, we did
meet in Police Week and been friends ever since. You
were on actually on episode number four of the show,
almost a year to the day. Yeah, we interviewed you.
You were lounging in a hotel room bed in Hawaii
on your way back from.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I was studio this time.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's cool having you here, Welcome to Texas.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Texas is fun.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now you how long was your flight to get here? Long? Long?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
About fifteen hours?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Fifteen hours direct? When did you leave Australia.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
It's ten thirty on the fourth.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And when did you get to Texas ten thirty on
the fourth.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
Time?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Travel anything well, you know, Alex, you mentioned something earlier flight. Yeah, Alex,
anything exciting and or eventful. I think eventfuls probably are
a better word to use here. Shocking anything shocking happened
on your flight.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
I did have a bit of a jump scare on
the flight, so for a bit of context. On the
drive to the airport, we drove past a billboard for
the White Lotus TV show and I saw that it
was set in Hawaii and it was available on the plane,
and we're going to Hawaii later, so I was like, okay,
I'll just click on this.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
And the first episode, it's not really a spoiler.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
There's a character who's introduced as being very concerned that
he might have testicular cancer, and the introductory shot to
this character is.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
A close up, full screen image of his testicle.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
So I'm just sitting there, maybe like a foot away
from the screen, looking at some check I'm like, oh god,
can anyone who can see my screen? Is anyone looking
at my screen? Are their kids on their kids nearby?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Like?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Now, do you guys have the screen on the back
of the seat or are you using the phone? I
have to use back of the back of the seats.
Oh my gosh, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
All the children throw behind her. I don't know what
this is.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I had to cover the screen. I'm like, child, what are.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
You looking at?
Speaker 8 (05:50):
It?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Looks like, what kind of show is this?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
I didn't really look I didn't really look into too
much what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Just I was like, I don't know what you're in.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I don't know this person.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's weird stuff.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
We don't judge.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
You had to know me because I was getting all
the snacks for us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Wow. And you know, seeing something on your screen, wondering
if anyone else is looking at it, if you haven't
checked out episode fifty two yet, you need to check
it out. We've got a very similar story of an
officer looking at something questionable but he didn't know. He
didn't but hell made for a great story I did.
(06:31):
So again, welcome guys, and I'm glad you're here tomorrow.
It's cool that you actually made it in studio. And
again it is it is police Week and where we
I'll go up to d C. Yes, well it's the
time we get to hang out. It's also time we
remember those those officers here in the United States that
made the ultimate sacrifice in the past year and even
(06:54):
historically once they've done the research on and added to
our national law enforcement. So thank you too. From traveling
from Australia here for our national police Week in DC.
It's a great time and any of our listeners out there,
if you've never attended National Police Week, you need to.
You ought to sometime during your career. It's just it's
(07:16):
completely different up there.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, and you need to go and attend the multiple events.
There's many different events you can attend, the bagpipes, you know,
just the Capital Lawn. There's so many things you can
go and see. And I recommend that if you're going
to go, you go and you do that because that's
what Police Week is about. The other stuff is secondary, secondary,
but you need to check those things out. They're pretty
(07:41):
amazing that they can put on an event this big.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, this will be my eleventh year at Police Week.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
If that doesn't say yeah, it's worth a visit, it's
worth of fifteen what's probably nearly a twenty four hour
flight from Sydney to go, then it's definitely worth going.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, and you attend everything, Yes, you wear address uniform
and you go and you attend everything. So that speaks
volumes of what this event is about.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, So definitely, guys, if you've never never attended National
Police Week in Washington, DC, definitely sometime during your career
you need to experience that. But let's let's talk about this.
You come all the way from Australia to National Police
Week each year and we have so many questions in
regards to being an officer in Australia. You did tell
(08:29):
us on episode four that all of Australia is divided
into is it five or six states?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So we've got seven states and territories.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, I kind of got closed on that.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I think it's like six states in one territory or something, right,
five states, five states to territories.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, and so, and then you've got a federal system, right,
it covers everything. And how many co workers do you
guys have for New South Wales.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
We're currently sitting around twenty thousands.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So twenty thousand, yes, just for your state.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yes, Now you don't want to put out a message,
call me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
For somebody else, a city wide message.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Back to episode again. If you haven't heard it, check
it out. It's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So I have a question for you about area. So
if you were to take your state and compare it
to the United States, how much of the United States
would it take up?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I think Land Saws is roughly about the same size
as Texas.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Dang, and that's one of the smallest states in the country.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, okay, land saws land size.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And you do have ocean.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yes, we're an island.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Two sides or two sides.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Of it.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Well you could be in the center like Nebraska or
Ohio or yes.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
On the east coast of New South Wales.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
He's old coastline.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
There's places in Australia that don't have the ocean. There are,
and that's really sad geographically speaking.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay, yeah, we're on an island. States, Damn, y'all are
a mess. And I mean policing. Policing in Australia is
a little bit different because when it comes to like
your firearms and stuff like that you got, you guys
leave them at work, right, most of us, most of
(10:27):
us and Alex you're you're a detective, so you you
are on call at points in which time you are
armed when you're on call, correct.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Correct, So we can respond immediately if we get called in.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, that's that. That is so much different than than
here in the States. But now, what is your what
is your gun crime? Like, I mean, do you guys
have a lot of murders related to weapons or firearms.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
In particular, I feel you're more likely to be murdered
by a knife than probably firearms.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
In Australia, there are obviously certain elements of the community
that tend to favor firearms over.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We do have spates of them when certain groups come
into conflict with each other, like rival gangs.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Do you guys have gangs?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Organized crime.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I like, you guys are holding back on us.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think they don't want us to know the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So it's a really great country, Come visit us.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, you tried to recruit me there a couple of
years ago, and I was like, don't you have like
great white sharks, the wild dogs in the dingo been
a snakes, eloys and spiders.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
In the city though, I remember.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They still have spiders in the city.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh yeah, the big ones, not the big ones that
you're scared of.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All right? Was it a bathroom frog?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
The kitchen spider, kitchen spider, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's right. Going back to episode four, you had a
kitchen spider. How is your kitchen spider doing well?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I've since moved, so no longer.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You didn't take him with you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I didn't know well established spider neglect spider abandonment.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, spider abandonment. Okay, we're going to try not to
hold that against you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I currently have a garden one that that counts.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, garden spider, big, big, huge spider, fangs, all this
kind of stuff, like six foot in diameter.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
White tail.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You just feed him, come out.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Bugs.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Might have been the one that came from my garden
because one the one in my garden had babies.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
They're raising spiders over there.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Oh, my spider had a litter of would you like some.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Up for adoption?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Three baby garden.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I don't do that much gardening, so they tend to
just look out one day, Oh there's a spider. I
look out like a week later, Why are there ten spiders?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not selling it to them?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Bringing spiders with you today? Didja?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I'm allowed to do that now?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, now I understand Alex. You you see a lot
of pranks at work, a few. You've seen a few,
and you had one in particular you were talking about
in regards to changing someone's auto correct in warrants.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Oh, so this is when I when I worked with Tomorrow,
We're working in the same office and we had a
guy in the office. It was a bit of a prankster,
and one day he someone left their computer unlocked, and
he went in and changed the autocorrect function on Microsoft
word so that every time the word police was typed,
it would automatically change to penis. So, unbeknownst to the
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officer whose actual computer it was he was put on.
He was on night shift one night and had to
apply to for a search warrant with some degree of urgency.
And just as he's about to send it off to
the court to get you know, the court, to get
signed off on, he realizes every time he's typed police
it now reads penis.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Ain't god he cut or we walked in.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Just as he'd realized it. He was just like in
a bit of a oh god, what have I nearly done?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
What's on your mind, dude?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Something that we need to know about, brod.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
We have a field day with you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We don't judge here.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
No judgment.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Except people how they are. No judgment. Ah. And he
had to get the warrants signed off on, So you guys,
is it a magistrate that you guys have to have
signed the warrants or that's what we have here in Texas.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
We have registrars which I sort of how do you
explain what they are?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Are they like a judge.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's slightly less than a magistrate, but they've still got
the power too.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
They basically work in chambers.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
They don't actually appear in court, but they've got the
similar powers to what a magistrate does to sign off.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Think a JP higher than JP.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Someone they could say, officer arrest that man if they
were in their presence, none of them.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
No, no, we don't have to get approval from the
courts to go and arrest someone. If we believe we
have the grounds to arrest them, then we just do it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, if you got I mean, is a probable cause
you got? We use probable cause system in the US.
So if you have problem cause, believe in offense has
been committed.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Reasonable suspicion.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Wow, yeah, reasonable suspicion. See, we got probable cause. Reasonable
suspicion for US is down.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, I think we've got reasonable suspicion and reasonable belief. Yeah, sorry,
so it's belief you did belief.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We'll see in our magistrates are judges. They can actually
I mean sure, they sign off on warrants, search warrants,
arrest warrants, stuff like that, and there there's many, many
circumstances you can arrest someone without without a warrant, but
they also had the power in their courtroom to order
their to somebody just hey, officer, arrest him.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, stop acting up, or you're going to give you
twenty days and they'll just be like, yeah, I've never
seen that. Yeah, So if you go to a US court,
don't act like a fool because you.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Don't want to. Just don't get into trouble.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, well, maybe they're going to go and watch a
case cause you know, Diddy's trials started today. Apparently Jean
Puffy Combs he had rejected a plea deal.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
So yeah, I did not know that, probably because I've
been in a coma since.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I understandable, I mean a whole day.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Now. You guys have you've, like you said a moment ago,
you guys have worked together, and you guys have investigated
crimes together, interviewed suspects together. You mentioned the story to
me earlier, and I want you to I want you
to share this one. Tell me about the time you
guys did a joint interview on a on a suspect.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Okay, so I had an investigation from an incident that
happened quite a long time prior, and we were interviewing.
We were interviewing this guy in relation to it, and
during this interview he's answering quite detailed questions about things
he remembered around that period of time, but whenever he
(17:18):
was asked about the offense, he suddenly couldn't remember.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
And convenient, yeah, of course, right, but also for context, yes,
suspect was quite elderly. He was in his eighties and
was quite hard of hearing. Allegedly, no, I believe he was.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
And at the time as well, there were some bushfires
going on, so there were helicopters overhead, and the room
was very, very echoe, So every time we'd ask him
a question, we would have to yell it at him
and then he would yell it back to confirm that
he understood the question before answering the question, are you
guys outside? No, inside, it was just a very echoe
(17:57):
interview room, and a lot of stuff was going on
outside too.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Didn't really help him trying to the bushfires.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Yes, yeah, okay.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
So then tomorrow comes out with this absolute gem.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Which was I asked this gentleman if he remembered having
sex with his wife and fair question, fair question. He
just kept yelling what back at me? So I had
to yell at him.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Do you remember having sex with your wife?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Which say Alex pulled back from the screen that records
and just bursting to burst out laughing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I had to try and remain professional.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
Shaking and hoping I'm outside of them.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
But he yelled it back at he did yell it
back at me.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Yes, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
How long did he go on?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just just a couple of minutes, A.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Couple of minutes of you asking if he remembered having
sex with his wife and him repeating that to you
and variations.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Of that good question.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Did he remember?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, surprise, I might be eighty years old.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
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in regards to home insurance.
Speaker 10 (19:50):
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Well, and you you mentioned a deductible. That's kind of
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Speaker 1 (22:36):
And we're back back to more Offbeat, the light side
of law Enforcements. I'm your host Steve Rutherford, co host
for today's show, Joanne Jackson. Hey, y'all, and we're joined
with two guests in studio today. We've got Sergeant Tomorrow
where Hey, I said it right again, didn't I thank
(22:57):
you too. We've got Detective Alex Burdett. Hi, Alex, you
all right down there?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Okay, he's still awake.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
I'm struggling.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
It's actually tomorrow for.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Them, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow.
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and then Joyne tries to throw me off by saying tomorrow, and.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm it's really today.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Wait a minute, what tomorrow is today?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
And today is tomorrow for them.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
For them, for them, but for me, today is today
a right and tomorrow's tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
There's a six, but it's actually the fair and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Tomorrow's Tomara tomorrow. Oh all right, And yes, our two
guests are here from Australia today, and thank you guys
for being here. It's awesome having you, having you in
the studio with us. And on the break we discussed
a few stories and tomorrow. I understand that you've ridden
(24:28):
in a vehicle with Alex before, and that Alex is
almost a professional driver. Yes, why don't you, Why don't
you elaborate tell us about her driving abilities?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So I didn't know this at the time.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's probably fairly early on we started working together and
I unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Let her drive.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
I'm no longer allowed to drive.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
We had to go out and serve a brief of
evidence on a on an offender.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
In and I'm sorry you had to serve a way
a brief of evidence, like what is the.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
File?
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It contains all the evidence you have against them.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Against them? You have to show it to them.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, we have to say it.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Well, so they have to be served a minimum two
weeks before a hearing date, so they've got time to
review all the evidence before them and then experience ice cream.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Sorry for Alex, all right, for the rest of the world,
ice cream.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Ice cream means get closer to your micro Ah, it's
more appropriate than others. Okay.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
So anyway, you have to show them everything that we've got,
so all the evidence that we have in a matter
against them.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And you're not showing it to their attorney. You're showing
it to the suspect.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
So I think in this case he was he was unrepresented,
so he was self represented, so we had to serve
it on him rather than a legal represent that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And so this offender lived in a.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
The world's narrowest.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
In an area with very narrow streets, and there were
vehicles parked on both sides of the street, so it
was really only one one lane. So Alex manages to
park the car relatively without issue. We went across the
road and we did what we had to do and
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serve serve the brief on the bad guy. He continued
to remain standing out the front of his house as
he watched this walk back to our vehicle, given you
the eyeball, and then I mean I assumed Alex would
just pull out into the lane way and then reverse
back up the street, because I feel like that's what
(26:56):
all normal people, that's what I would do. But instead
she can She proceeded to do an Austin Powers style
thousand point turn in this teeny tiny little street, with
our offender standing right nearby watching it.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Didn't dinner.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I have never slunk down in a chair so much
trying to avoid being seen.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It is Alex hasn't driven since.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, no right down red, no left, un right red
less it's a sign.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is that true story, Alex?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Yes, But now I don't have to drive, so.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Extra strategic because she's not driving over here either.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Everything is on the wrong side.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I think she was from France once and I was
actually driving down the road and the lady's coming straight
at me. I'm like, whoa, And anyways, so I turned
around behind her. She makes it through an intersection driving
on the wrong side the intersection too, makes the right
hand turn, horrible, finding her finding get her stopped and
get up there, and yeah, she's speaking a different language.
(28:12):
And I was like gotcha. That's like, oh my god,
it's two o'clock in the afternoon. This lady's already in paired. No,
she she wasn't from around here playing gft W went
to the rental car place and jumped on the wrong
side the road.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Oops, like I'm left on right.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
We've had a couple of moments where we were going
to turn left and we like, wait, which one do
we need that one?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
That's one we need to be in.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Wait, let me see if somebody else is turning, so
I know where I need to go exactly exactly, Greg.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
To slow down so someone passes us and we can
follow them.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Very grateful for the people going in the same direction.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
If you do see one car going the wrong way,
don't follow that game.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I don't know which way is the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
State with the majority, and y'all have a rental.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Car right, Yes, Oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Is Alex driving ors are you No, It's definitely not Alex.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
She's doing great.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I drove us here.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
We've only nearly died twice with tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
One of them was not my fault.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
It was also about five hundred meters out of the airport.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I think it was another tourist driving that punched through
a red light and was turning right in front of
us as we were driving.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, greenlight, that'd be so sad. If you guys land
at the airport, you only make it, yeah, less than
a mile outside the gates.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
And yeah, passenger gave us this little wave like sorry.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Now, Alex, you mentioned several pranks that you've seen at work,
and one of them involved emails.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Ah, the emails.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
This is I'm going to have to try this.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
So this is going quite a ways back and again
was due to somebody leaving their computer unlocked.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
See okay, let's public service announcement. Do you lock your computer,
lock your cell phones, lock your car, trusted hide the
children like any vehicle.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, okay, So anyway, this girl walked away good, went
to the bathroom or something, and in the meantime, someone's
gone on her emails.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
It's changed her email signature.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
And I don't know about you, but no one really
reads email signatures, right, They're kind of just a block
at the bottom, and you don't really think.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Too hard about it.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
And she sent emails to the bosses, she sent emails
to coworkers, she sent emails to absolutely everyone including to the.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Local hospital to get some medical records.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
And that's when she gets an email back from one
of the staff saying, hey, I think someone's playing a
prank on you. Check your email signature and it says
her name, her rank. I like feet, And then the
station she worked at it's easy to overlook.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Everybody's got there.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's a judgment free zone.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Judgment judgment free.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Then she's like scrolling through her emails being like, oh God,
how long has this been here?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
How many bosses have I emailed? Have any of them noticed.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I like feet? Any bosses walking around with no shoes on?
She likes feet?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
So I think we need to go to uh I
D and have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah feet, I don't get it, but yes, check your email.
That's another good morning. Check your email, make sure nobody's
tampered with it, and then by all means lock your computer. Yeah,
there's there's nothing better in law enforcement than do you
find a coworkers computer that is not locked, because we
refer to that as fair game. Cell phones, you guys
(31:51):
have also had pranks in regards to phones, right, the
phone system.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Oh yes, so there was there was one girl who
was I think she was away for a bit, and
when she came back, someone had changed their changed every
single phone in the office to rewrap to her phone.
So she was essentially the office receptionist for the whole
day and couldn't figure.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Out why everybody else is playing games on this.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
And this office is like long and thin, and essentially
if you wanted to talk to someone from one end
and you're on the other, then you'd pick up the
phone rather than walk down. So she's got her steps
up that day's doing laps's.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Just watching her like she's busy.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Why isn't anyone else's phone ringing?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's just good clean fun.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
No one's getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And as I understand, I don't know which one of
you wants to talk tell this story, but you've arrested
a suspect in the hospital before.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
H So when we were working together, you know, detective office,
we had a very old school detective sergeant that probably
hit his prime back in the eighties and never really
progressed past to that point.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
So in this particular matter, the.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
News and our media unit were working together to publicize
an arrest for a murder suspect that was in the hospital,
and this detective sergeant decided, even though we had no
part in the investigation whatsoever, he wanted to be one
of the faces as the person going in to be
known for this arrest. We all know that guy.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Something's don't change between cotton.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yes, And so.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
He, along with two of our detectives from the office
who actually did the work, were filmed walking towards the hospital.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
So you got like media outlet out there. Everybody knows
what's going down.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yes, And on this particular day, he decided that he
wasn't going to wear his suit jacket, he wasn't going
to put his firearm on, and he actually walked into
the hospital wearing AirPods. So it really looked like these
two young detectives were taken dad out.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Rather than a high profile rest.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, we're checking our dad in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
He was released on day release. We're just returning him.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, we thought we could take care of him. We can't. Yes,
we've all we've all come across that officer. So well,
it's a little bit different here because nobody wants to
get caught on anybody else's body cam here, because you
you're got on the body cam here type up testimony
and now you're going to get Peanut the court because
now you've become a part of it around here by
(34:47):
just scatters see nothing now, any any crazy tourist stories tomorrow?
You you you've mentioned one in episode four you talked
crazy tourist that you had to remind her that she
was no longer in her country because she was kind
of acting a fool if you will. Yes, but added
(35:09):
any to the collection of crazy tourist stories since we
last spoke.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Not for me, but I think Alex might have a story.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Oh, I don't know about crazy. It was just a
bit of a misunderstanding. So we get a call for
suspected domestic violence incident. Someone's heard some yellings and slappings
and noises that makes them go, oh, you know, I
should probably call the cops.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Some kind of disturbance going.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
So we go there and it was actually just a
couple of tourists and they it was the last night
in Sydney and they just had decided to celebrate by
having very very loud sex.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
They were still sightseeing.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Yeah, going out with a bank Yeah, okay, nothing, you
guys are fine.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I always wondered what happened. It goes on in Sydney and.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It usually stays there, but not on this occasion.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Sometimes sometimes it gets brought over again, you know. Well
and you guys, you guys are ahead of us, and
uh well from did you bring the winning load of
numbers with you? Yeah? You know, you always wish everybody
a happy New Year. Like I'm like, is she drunk
(36:22):
and she's on the wrong day, you know?
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Or now was early?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
She's posted fireworks and stuff going on over there.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, and we were we'd actually talked once last year.
You and I were sending messages back and forth trying
to figure out what time it was, and we finally
got to the point listen to her message. Just tell
me what time it is for you're at it's one o'clock.
What time is it there? Oh, it's this, you know,
So we get actually tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
See, I just message her whenever and she always replies.
So I just assumed that she doesn't sleep, she doesn't well,
and she just you know, she's always up and I
usually get a reply within a short period of time.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Will be catching me on a night shift.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
You know, it's been a long night shift. When I've
sent you a lot of memes, you wake up and
you're like.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Videos, Now, how long a shift do you guys work?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I work twelve?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, do nine? Nine nine? That's odd number.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's unusual even for us. Most detectives
are on tens.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
So how does your kid?
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Does that mean you have to work like a half
a day?
Speaker 6 (37:36):
So it's a nine day fortnight, so it'll be for example,
Monday to Friday and then Monday to Thursday the next week.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Okay, So during the pay period you just get your
total hours in yep.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
The crowlence is across the six week, So stupid question.
Forty hours a week, right.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I think it's roughly eight, yeah, thirty eight hours, So
we do two hundred and twenty eight hours in a
six week period. So that can be a blend of
different shifts, shift lengths and that sort of thing. So
the shift times can vary, the amount of days that
you work can vary, but.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
They don't make you go back and forth between day
and night though.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I do, yes all the time, coming off a night shift.
After they turn around and backwork again.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
So it's nightly here. Where you're assigned to a certain shift,
it depends.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So patrols probably a little bit more structured than what
Alex is in. She's in a specialist squad, so it's
what the job requires as to when she's cold out.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
But I got more set roster than what she does.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
Quite frustratingly, bad guys don't keep their rosters, know right,
rid of them.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
But you guys are basing how many hours you get
in in a six week period.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Please tell me you don't get paid every six weeks.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, we get paid fortnightly.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Okay, I'm trying to figure out what this word is
fortnite nightly.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I think didn't we discuss this last time? Every two weeks?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Every two weeks, that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Every two weeks right now, it's two weeks. It's not
just a game, it's a movie.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
It is a movie. A movie is a movie. Yeah,
it's got Jack Black, and it's got Aquaman. I can't
think of his name, Jason Momoa, Jason Momoa.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
As long as it didn't have some guys checking his testic.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
It's a kid's movie fully now, now, Alex, you you
mentioned that sometimes the kids, the the younger generation, the teens,
the kids in their twenties, sometimes they're God, how do
we even get to here. Sometimes they use their vehicles
to to engage in certain conduct.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Lookout point a lot of times with their parents and
don't really have anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Okay, well any stories going down that road, no pun intended.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
So in an area that I used to work, there
was a spot that was quite notorious for couples to
get quite amorous in cars. And one night we're just
driving along, we do a lap, we see a car,
the windows are all steamed up.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
We kind of tap tap tap, come on, guys.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
And the guy was working with had a quite jovial temperament,
like he's very very boisterous, very sort of friendly, and
as you know, these flustered eighteen to twenty one year
olds are sort of trying to frantically scramble to get
their close together. He's going like, all right, guys, what
are we what are we doing here tonight? As if
he has no idea, and this poor guy is just like, m.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
No, no, speak up. What were you doing? We we're
being intimate, being intimate? Whoa wait, well, we can't be
doing that here.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
And this area is also a popular fishing spot, so
there's all these fishermen just turning around and going what
is going on here? And sweaty teenagers trying to like
frantically throw themselves together and trying to scramble out of there,
and I'm just like, all right, Well, we drove off,
and about an hour hour or two later we do
another lap down that area. It's actually quite a nice
(40:57):
spot to look out over the water and we see
the costal there and with the hood pulped. So what's
happened is while they've been in the car, the battery's
gone flat and they've had to call one of their
parents to drive down jumps.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Not that car, mom, Dad. We were here to fish.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
This is not what it looks like. We're just friends, just.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
A couple of besties.
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Speaker 1 (43:18):
And we're back back to more offbeat the light side
of law. Enforcement. We're joined with two guests in studio today.
We've got Sergeant Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Where is that a question?
Speaker 1 (43:36):
That was like, uh, did I say your name right?
I'm doing great. And we've also got Detective Alex Burdett.
He said that right, Alex. Thanks for having a normal name.
Much easier, much easier to say. Now, guys, do you
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I think we got it all all. I'm excited about
this this next topic here.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
Oh me too. I had no idea like population or
visits are going to go up Australia.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yes, we're now working for the Australian Tourist District. Uh
we we learned that brothels are actually legal.
Speaker 5 (45:40):
How did I never not know that?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Obviously? Haven't come visit, have you.
Speaker 5 (45:44):
I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Someday I'm
just going to show up and be like banging on
a door. Hey, do you know so and so some
police station go to.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I was going.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
Some police station.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
There, and I can only imagine that those establishments can
bring forth some uh some interesting calls. Few ay. I
see Alex on the end smiling Alex, what's your best
call to brothel?
Speaker 5 (46:23):
So we don't get a.
Speaker 6 (46:23):
Huge number of calls at brothels, but there was one
particular madam that was we were investigating for dealing drugs
and we wound up ultimately doing search warrant on the
apartment she was using as a brothel and the three
girls that were working there. As our specialist tactical resources
have gone in, there's one of the girls run towards
(46:43):
the bathroom. We've been like, all right, what's in the bathroom? Like,
what are we what are we dealing with? Yeah, anyway,
it turns out she'd actually do herself. That was why
she wanted to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
That's a good reason to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
You scared her so much she pooped herself.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, literally scared it.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
And the second girl, And I'll just add here that
I'm unfortunate enough to be the only female at this warrant,
so I'm with the task of searching everyone they've asked
me to strips the second girl. The second girl was
naked when they came in. She was actively with a
client at the time they came in. I was like,
where do you want me to search.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Wait, she was actively with a client whenever you guys
came in. But she's but she's no longer actively with
a client.
Speaker 7 (47:34):
Correct, Yes, they were. They were separated.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
They were doing a transaction upon initial contact d couples.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
They broke, they separated. Okay, they're separated.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
The connection and you got to do a strip search
on her.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
You didn't just like look at that guy and say, hey,
does she have anything?
Speaker 7 (47:59):
I think he searched you're pretty thoroughly.
Speaker 6 (48:05):
Then the third girl also needed to go to the bathroom,
so I've escorted her to the bathroom, and she was
having the opposite problem as the first girl.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Okay, now, so.
Speaker 7 (48:19):
She's sitting on the toilet screaming like.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Ah and then pop like tiny little rabbit pellets, and
then she'd repeat this scream tiny little rabbit pellet and
like she was screaming so much. I even asked her
if she wanted an ambulance.
Speaker 7 (48:40):
I was just not right.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
And then as well, like she wasn't really she was
not really listening to what I was trying to tell.
And none of these girls spoke a single bit of English.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
She was trying to concentrate.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
She was, but I've got some very very very limited Mandarin.
So I'm yelling at her and basic mandarin, and she's
yelling at me to stop yelling at her and Mandarin.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
And it was just a bit of a comedy of errors.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
Which is like, how did I what life decisions did
I make to wind up in this situation?
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Join the police.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
They said it'll be fun, said you'll meet no interesting people.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
So Brothels are legal in Australia.
Speaker 5 (49:22):
Apparently.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Okay, we we learned something new every time, you know tomorrow.
We learned so much the first time you were on
about Australia, and I feel like we've just added to
our knowledge.
Speaker 5 (49:34):
Now I agree.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Okay, one of these days we're we're actually going to
go the other way and we're going to go visit you.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Yes, now that you know Brothels legal, Steve has six
chicks in the barn, so oh.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Don't let them get out of that does not sound right.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
Well the other one who said you had.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Six chicks, okay, chickens again. It's uh, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's been pleasure having you on the show. It's been
a pleasure having you in our country.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
So and we'll see you in Please week. We'll see
you in Please week.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Absolutely so all right, guys, until next time, keep it real,
keep it funny, stay safe and watch each other six
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