July 23, 2025 • 50 mins
This 61st episode is full of surprises with Deputy Chris Ratliff and Deputy Steve Coyne sharing funny, wild, and true stories about a tiger on the loose, when drugs are body parts, a search warrant producing hard evidence, and MORE!
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Hosted by retired police officer Steve Rutherford and Detective Curtis Hadley with special guest Karen Freeto Rutherford.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, The Light Side of Law Enforcement.
It's part of the Treehouse Podcast network. On today's show,
we'll hear about rookies climbing stairs.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Tigers. We're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Hear about tigers. Okay, yeah, tiger tigers and law enforcements. Hey,
I can't wait. Steve here. Co host for today, the
detective Curtis Hadley.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Great to be here, guys, and.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I guess we should mention we've we've got the lovely
miss Karen on the.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
End co co host today.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah right, co Coke Carrion. All right, we are joined
with two guests today. One guest joining us in studio.
We've got Deputy Chris Ratliffe, thanks for having me and
joining us remotely from an undisclosed location keep in the
heart of Texas. We've got Deputy Steve Coin, So welcome Steve.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
How are you today?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm very well? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What do we What do we have today? Curtis, Lions,
tigers and bears.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, anybody got a bear story, because that really would
that will go that would go well? Uh No, you know,
we mentioned tigers and apparently we're going to hear a
tiger story today, But I did want to mention there
was something on social media, story on social media, and
we we all know it's.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
True because it's on social media. Absolutely, So let me
let me pull up this one real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He was a great story.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I feel like I'm getting set up here. Yeah yeah, bracureself.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Social media normally solves our cases for us. That's where
we go to. We want to solve the case.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
People can't help a tell it truth sometimes or.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Tell us how to do it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
There was an elementary school in Washington. The school was
placed on lockdown after someone reported what they believed was
a mountain lion near the school grounds. That's a good
reason lockdown is.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Absolutely doesn't sound like a bear story.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
No, no, it's it's it's not a not a bear story,
but it is a mountain lion story. So they end
up calling in wildlife officials. Uh school went into full
emergency lockdown procedures to keep the students safe and the
staff safe. And after the wildlife officials got there, they
they found out that the supposed mountain line was actually
(03:01):
a very large domestic cat. It was a tabby, and
in fact, the cat was eating a rat hear at
the back of the building.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, I was gonna offer some milk, but it's gonna
be rat to control. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, So they went on lockdown for the mountain lion
slash domestic tabby see higher in the country with all
the students would just grabbing guns and went out chasing it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's my shot. I saw it first.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
That just tells you how long it's been since they've
seen a mountain lion in that area, an actual one.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's Washington. Don't they have them?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
I would assume so, but maybe they've eradicated in their area,
and then that's what they think a mountain line looks like. Now, huh,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Karen's got a couple of mountain lions here roam in
the house. I believe it a couple.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, the big one's bitten a few times, so that's
a mountain dog. Yeah. We have a love hate relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, now, now, Chris you are you are currently a deputy?
How long have you been in longforcemith since two thousand
and nine, over sixteen years? And what agency you work with?
Wise County Shref's Office.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, wait, what do you do there for Wes's County.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Now, so now my main role there is an investigator,
so crimes against people.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, so you're an investigator crimes against people? So yeah,
so I do.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I work cases when people are assaulted, sexually assaulted, murders,
crimes against children, just everything.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah. Anything.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
If someone's harmed in any way, we go investigator. My
group investigates it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So, Karen, if you harm me in any way, I'm
calling Chris call me just so she works with me.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So I may have to go on her side. Oh yeah, God,
that always backfires.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I would move down to Terran County before you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And Steve, you're a returning guest. We had you back
on episode nineteen. You are currently a deputy at a
agency in North Texas.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
How long have you been in law enforcement? Sir?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Since nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I worked for the Cook County Sheriff's Department in Chicago,
Calium Met Park Police Department, which borders the south side
of Chicago. Then I did almost twenty four years with
Chicago Police Department.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And have since relocated to Texas.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Correct about three years ago, three and a half years.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Ago, and still stayed in the profession. Yes, I have well, good, good.
That was a nice side there, Steve.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
But I did try the private sector for a little
bit in between and that didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And that's a story for another day.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, Well you know what, I'll hold you to that. Also,
now you I know you because you're a you're a bagpiper.
And again you you actually played your pipes on on
that didn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, they could have said you're full of hot air,
but I won't go there either.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So episode nineteen of the show You and You and
James Bad came on and you guys piped for us
in the show. I'll did a little piping. But one
of the big deals with you, Steve's you do a
lot of stare climbs. And for our listeners that don't know,
the stairclimb events actually are event scheduled each year and
(06:25):
they're in multiple cities across the country. But they memorialize
those that we lost in the September the eleventh attacks. Correct,
And I understand that you know you've you've been climbing
for a long time. We've got an event coming up
here in the Dallas area. But Steve, how long have you?
How long have you been doing the stair climbs.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
I started stare climbs in twenty twelve, but the first
nine to eleven climb I did was the one in
Dallas in twenty fourteen. Could most of them only allow firemen,
Apparently they have more time on their hands than we do.
And Dallas was one of the first ones that I
found that allow out police officers to climb too.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now there are other ones around the country that you've done.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Though, correct.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Yeah, it's a tunnel to towers event. I've done those
all over the country and I'm actually doing four climbs
in September.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Wow, So you are you're pretty much a professional stare climber.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
I did that for COVID put event in that for
a little bit. But I'd probably done over.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
One hundred climbs since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That'd make him a StairMaster. I get tired.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Okay, Steve, from now on, we're going to refer to
you as the StairMaster. I like that, Okay, the piping steermaster, Steve.
I'd be honest with you. I mean I had to
come up a flight of stairs just to get to
the studio today, and man stopped twice so yeah, man,
kudos to you. Now, how many how many stairs are
(07:58):
you climbing whenever you do these events?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
How many stories?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's a total of one hundred and ten.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Stories.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah, so most most depending on the buildings, anywhere between
roughly twenty two hundred steps.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, so.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Most of the climbs.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Is that one hundred and ten up and one hundred
and ten down.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Just out of Yeah, you don't climb down, they're.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Going to pay you down. You take the elevator.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You take the elevator down.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is there an option to take the elevator up and
then walk down the stairs.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Unfortunately?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, okay no, but again, you know, and we're joking
about this, but in all seriousness, this is to memorialize
those that we lost in September September the eleventh attacks.
And do you do you have to raise funds in
order to participate in these kind of events?
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Yes, I mean it's uh, there's no set amount. You know,
they try to raise money each climb. I know Dallas.
Every year they their climb represents different charities, please and fire.
I think it's different every year. So you could probably
go on their website or their social media and see
who they're supporting each year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Now, if if somebody wanted to make a donation to
your climb, where would they go to make that donation.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
You can either go to the website for each climb
or my website. I'm a non for profit since I'm
raising money for multiple climbs. You can go to my
website and I can give that to you when you're ready,
or you can post it at the end.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, let us have it.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well, it's Shy Texts Irish Bagpipers dot com. So that's
CHI which is abbreviation for Chicago Texts obviously Texas Irish
Bagpipers dot com. And then you can go to the
about tab and you'll see donation links in there.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, very good. Check it out.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You guys, get out there support Steve and these these
claims that he's doing. And of course you said he was.
You said Shy.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Text Iris Bagpipers.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, Shy being the Chicago part, Texas being where you're
at now. And you know, you told us on episode
nineteen what you referred to Chicago as in the winter time,
and what was that term you used.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
The media came up with Shiberia.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
We had a couple of cold winners where the temperature
got very fire below zero. The wind show was probably
minus twenty or minus thirty. So they started calling it Shiberia.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And hence the reason he moved to Texas, right, because
I'm sorry, that's a.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Little bit cold, one of the many reasons.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then the other one was you used another term
for Chicago when you were on you were talking about
some of the increase in violence, and you recall that
other term you used.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh, yeah, it's Iraq. You have the amount of murders.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I think Chicago has more murders than Iraq did at
one point, and I know they have more than New
York and LA combined.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Now, interestingly enough, you you're also you're also a bagpiper.
You've been piping for quite some time. You play with
a lot of a lot of different guys down here
in Texas from different agencies. And one thing we got
into on that previous episode, you've you kind of have
a movie star past.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Briefly, I did. Yeah, about twenty years ago.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
I was in the pipes and drums of the Chicago
Police Department and they were filming The Dark Knight in Chicago,
the one with Heath Ledger and they hired our band
to be part of that movie.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Very nice. So you you started in a Batman movie.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's still living off the royalties.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I still got a check every year.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Sometimes sometimes it's a few hundred bucks, sometimes it's less
than a hundred, but it's still something.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I'll my struggle to Blockbuster and ren it next week.
So Blockbuster, hiet, you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Can write it on Beta.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'm just screaming on TV.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
What is beta?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, no, And that was interesting again, guys, Steve, I
had played that on episode nineteen, the little excerpt.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Of you being actually on that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So, guys, if you want to see see that part
of Steve in the movie, we've We've got it back
on episode nineteen or better yet, just watch watch the
whole movie and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
The Hardest Steve.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Do we get to see his feet? What part of
Steve do you want to see with Steve?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Steve, that's a different movie.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
We won't talk about it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, that's the one where he plays his full pipe.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
In order to play the bagpipes, you got to do
three things. You have to blow, squeeze, and finger at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Professional that's a lot of coordination. Yes, twelve times.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now. Now, Chris, going back to you, you you brought
some stories with you today and one of those you
talked about was a rookie story, and not just any
rookie story.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You said it was the first day rookie story. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
So when I first got in law enforcement, I moved
down to Avinesota over by College Station area. And uh,
normally when you go to FTO, you start off in
dispatch and kind of get to feel of what dispatches,
dispatches go through and how it all works. Well, I
was in there for about two hours. My lieutenant came
in said, I'm bored, let's go teach you how to
be a cop. So I grew up in this area,
(13:42):
a bunch of country kids. We don't use a lot
of slang, term or anything like that. So we're driving.
He's like, hey, let's talk about you know how people
talk around here, and so he's gonna teach me what
he called the ghetto talk. So he was teaching me,
you know what, it's been a minute, you're a blasted me,
putting me on blast. And the funny part is I'm
(14:04):
driving first day and I'm in the Crown VIC and
he wants me to say I'm one hundred, so country me.
I'm like, okay, I'm one hundred. He goes, no, not
like you're one hundred, like the number you're you're one hundred.
And we go back and forth several times and he's like,
I want you to lean sideways in your car like
you're doing a ghetto ride and say I'm one hundred.
(14:25):
So I was like, all right, I'm one hundred. It's like, no,
you're too white for this, Sit back up and drive.
So that's kind of my first learn how to talk,
learn how to talk. My first learning skill in law
enforcement was learning how to talk. And I didn't pass.
I didn't do real well on the slang talk. I
did pick it up a little bit. I had a
(14:45):
kid ask me one day and goes, man, you're putting
me on blast. I'm like, or your blasted me? I'm like,
my gun's holstered. He goes, no, Officer rattl Liff, You're
an idiot. It's like you're making fun of you in
front of all these people. I'm like, oh my bad, sorry, yeah,
I mean I can't now we get it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Communications that the number one the number one skill you
got to have out there and yeah, okay, you match
someone's personality, how they're talking and all that. That's how
you talk to people into you know, handing their dope
over to you and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's just a matter of how you talk to them.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But well, the other personality side of that, it was
I was went to my first domestic on that or
a few weeks later, and we we had hair extensions
here for like prom That's kind of it that we
ever saw.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I never saw.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Anything else on the department. No, yeah, sorry the department. Okay, wait,
this is going to be our first hair extension. I
was like, I didn't know that was put like no
up here in you know, Springtown area, you know, that's
the only thing I ever saw was hair extensions. And
went to my first domestic. Woman called in said that
her baby daddy was chasing her with a knife. So
(15:52):
I show up and she's running at me and it's
I see hair And then the hair is up in
there like debate to be okay, it's up and there, down,
up and down, and I'm like, oh, I'm freaking out
because I just think she was scalped. She's like, yeah, wow,
I like your hair. She goes, oh, that's just my
weave and start tapping her head. My ft O was
(16:12):
my corporal at the time, just started laughing at me.
He realized I had no clue what that was, what's
going on? And ultimately her baby daddy is like three
foot shorter than she is and she beats him up
and so on. But I had to learn what you know,
weaves were and different styles of hair and yeah, it's
just a big culture shot going down there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, you definitely get the lingo down because you're you're
talking baby daddy and stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Now, I can also tell you during my rookie years,
if you got to the scene and no one was there,
if you saw a weave or a bunch of hair
in the in the in the middle of the road.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You were. You were where it happened. Originally, that was
the original crime scene.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
That was the point of impact. Yes, they but impact,
I'm sorry. Well, they were on scene, it was there.
Everybody was in the bathroom. Couldn't imagine there's two bathrooms
and there's twenty people in one bathroom.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Why were they all in the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, they got to go there.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
They saw this, didn't want to talk about it, right,
So I was in a bathroom.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, Now you said why were they in the bathroom?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And I'm you know, we've got a deputy between us here,
so I think I can I can say this. Don't
most ladies go to the bathroom in groups as well?
Oh yeah, like a whole tribe.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, but that's for protection. Protection. Yeah, somebody's got a
hold your purse.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Purse, hair makeup has for protection.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I I'm just I'm sitting there.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Safety in numbers, Steve. We just don't get that as
men because we're Have.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You ever been attacked by a toilet?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I'll just say, you know, shotguns story, But I mean,
have you ever seen Jaws? There's water dinner somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Attacked by a toilet?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Oh yeah, No, one might be hiding in the bathroom
to get us.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Okay, or that tool that you talked about another episode
they got shot with a shotgun or something.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, we can't get away from Stan Davies on
every episode. So yeah, he did you know he took
care of that toilet the shotgun. I remember, guys, safety safety, Uh,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Safety.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Little token for today, don't put your finger on trigger
until you're ready to shoot.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yep. Yep, don't forget that. Stand for listening now, Steve.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
We were talking about you, you playing your pipes earlier
on in it In. I saw on social media where
you just posted this. You just recently played with the
ACDC cover band back in Black.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I'm supposed to play with them tonight, but I'm unfortunately
recovering from a minor surgery, so I had to bail
on that. And I played with them a couple of
weeks ago at Grandscape, their outdoor stage by Nebraska Furniture
and Shields over there.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And also not only not only the ac DC that
you're playing a CDC music. I actually saw that you've
got one Copperhead Road that you played as well.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I did. I did Copperhead Road and Country.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Roads, Oh country Roads.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
If you go to that, well, if you go to
my website and look at the social media, you'll find
it on the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, and what's that site again, shy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Text iris bagpipers dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All right, you know we're gonna say that in so
many times, I'm gonna my sleep. I'm on textbagpipers dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
You messed it up already.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Wow, I take a beating on here now let me
see the Chris. You mentioned.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
A tiger call to us, and you know, I worked
for a municipality in a you know, in a concrete jungle,
if you will. But we didn't have any concrete tigers
in our concrete jungle. But I'm just curious. No deputies.
You're out in the country, you see other things like that.
(20:00):
Perhaps maybe that's where we're going with the tiger story.
But should the tiger story with us? I'm anxious to
hear this one.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, so I have two of them.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
One's actually in Wise County, so and there was actually
tigers in Wise County. Tiger's in Weis County. So when
I came here to Wise County work, I was an FTO.
We got dispatched to a tiger over on one fourteen
that was loose and I looked at my FTO. I
was like, what do we do with a tiger? How
are we going to handle this? He's like, well, where
(20:28):
there's shotguns, and they are and we have guns. I'm like,
so there's no play and he goes never had one before,
Let's go figure it out. Luckily, there wasn't one when
we got there. But our very first tiger call in
the city where there shouldn't be any tigers. We just
sat down to eat. It was late at night, and
got dispatched to a tiger in front of a house.
(20:49):
Went over there, showed up, saw the tiger, put the
spotlight on it, thinking oh crap, what am I going
to do with this tiger? Jump out on it, you know,
like good cops do. We go after the danger. And
it was a huge stuffed animal. So we actually made
Paul because I decided, you know, to go and fight
this tiger. So I'm putting a choke hold. My partner
(21:12):
takes a picture of it, all fun and games like,
I'm fighting it. And then while I'm up there talking
to the residents saying, hey, can you put this tiger up?
And so no, we don't need any more calls. It's
on social media already. I'm getting call from the chief saying, hey,
get that down off social media. You're making people look stupid.
I have no clue what's going on. So that Monday,
we had a social media policy about posting work related
(21:35):
stuff on Facebook.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Yeah, poor poor Christopher Robin. Just figure, remember, guys, no
fun on duty.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
This is offbeat the like side of law enforcement. Check
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Speaker 1 (21:55):
Let's welcome Daniel Cook from Cook THEFW Roofing and Restoration
to the studio. Their number is eight three three Cook
DFW the website cookdfw dot com. Anything new in your world, Daniel, Steve.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
We've just been busy, man, and it's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, as you know, we do roofs.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
We do a lot of roofs. We you know, we
do over two hundred and fiftyree hundred US a year.
But we really have been expanding our other services and
as clients find out, we've been getting more and more referrals.
And so, you know a lot of our services people
don't know we do. And you know that includes, you know,
painting your home, fixing sheet rock floors, remodeling kitchens, remodeling bathrooms,
(22:40):
exterior painting, adding on patios.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
We just did a big patio add.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
On for a client, stamped concrete.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
So we have a great crew, We have great people
that really do phenomenal work. It's this amazing some of
the projects that we have. And now we're really building
out even on commercial. We just built out a State
Farm insurance office up here in the North section of town.
And you know, we're building onto a car dealership here
(23:11):
in Collin County, and so we do a lot and
it's amazing how much we've grown and how much we've
expanded our services. But we just want to give to
the people what they're asking and luckily we're able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Man, we've said it before on the show. You were
like an A to Z one stop shop when it
comes to working on a house. And you know, do
you need a roof, do you need gutters, do you
need new drywall?
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And we're back back to more off Beat the Light
Side of Law Enforcement. Steve here co host today Detective
Curtis Hadley. Great to be here, guys and our We've
got co Coke Karen joining us today. I'm here, yes,
and we've joined with two guests today, one guest in studio.
(25:33):
We've got Deputy Chris Ratliffe. Thanks for having good to
be here and again joining us from a un disclosed
location slash hideout somewhere in the Yeahs.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Batman joining us from the batcave like Bruce Manor of
Bruce Wayne's manor the city.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We got Deputy Steve Coin.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
How you doing everyone now?
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FM dot com. Again, that's alex FM dot com. Curtis
is the dot com guy, Karen.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I want you to try to roast a little bit
more because when I roast Steve, it reflects poorly on
my paycheck. He can't do any Okay. If you think
he's gonna, you know, do anything later, just blink twice.
But I'm saying you roast as much as you want
over there.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'll try.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Hence the reason I've got one of the local deputies
between in between y'alls. Yeah, although he's already said his
allegiances to his coworker.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, if it happened to Terran County, he can't help her, Kenny.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Now he's got Curtis on your side.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, just end to the table versus that in I
know the investigator of Arran County. Uh, I'm one of them. Okay, uh,
let's get into you.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Uh, let's get into a few more of these stories, guys,
some of them a little bit leary about.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But Steve, let's let's start with you. You.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You mentioned, you know, Chicago. There's some terminology used up
there that is different than terms that we use here
in Texas. Expand on that a little bit.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Well, I mean, obviously in Texas they say y'all. You know,
we say you guys like, hey, what are you guys
doing Texas? What are you all doing?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I call it pop. You guys call it coke. I
call it gym shoes.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
I think it's tennis shoes or sneakers if you're talking
about somebody you really don't like or uh. The term
jag off is very popular up there.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I've used that.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
I've used that term down here and people look at
me puzzles like they don't know what it means. And
like I mentioned earlier, we recently were selling our house
in Chicago, and I mentioned that our house does not
have a gangway.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
A gang a gangway, so you can't walk the plank.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, we'll be going here.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, if you if you can, if you want if
you don't have.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
A gang, Yeah, Cruci.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
The gangway in Chicago is just the the sidewalk that
goes between the houses that leads to your.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Side door, your backyard, or to the alley.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
And it's usually about ya white, you know, maybe a
person and a half wide, and.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So so question here.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So it's a sidewalk between houses that that can lead
to your side door, the back alley. But it's called
a gangway. So do gangs frequently walk on this thing
between your house?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Not my house, but they do.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
There's a you're in I'll sink that like those little
parties you had that you had in the back that
they had to have a secrecy going to.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You couldn't go to the front door. Okay, it's a
it's a party entrance. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now okay, so a gangway we call those sidewalks here, Steve.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean the house is that close though I don't
know some.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of them are.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Yeah, you can pretty much reach out and touch your
house next door out of your window.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, So you mentioned you in regards to you, in
regards to gangways and stuff, you had a narcotics arrest.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, many years ago. We were.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
I don't remember all the circumstances, but it was a
a guy on a bike selling drugs and we jumped
out of the car and he took off on the
bike down the gangway and we were in foot pursuit
behind him. But the handlebars on the bike were wider
than a gangway, and he didn't know that until he
(30:02):
went over the bike. You know, he went over his handlebars.
So obviously somebody takes off on you on a bicycle,
you're most likely not going to cut them unless he
goes down.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
The gangway with a handlebars are too white.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
So was.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
One of the first times we were like laughing our
asses off while we were actually coughing the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh bit.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, maybe he was from Texas. He had a Texas
bike and his handlebars were bigger in.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Texas the long way the Longhorn.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But you know so and Curtis, I guess that answers
your question about how much room there was between houses.
You can't even ride a bike down the gangway, so
some of these gangways you had to like walk sideways, sidestep.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You are we we call those curbs. Oh okay uh.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Now, Also in the first segment, we Chris shared a
story about a lady who had been scalped kind of
and you said that you had a term for, you know,
in regards to hear like that also, Steve, Wait, what
was that?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You used?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Tumble weaves?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
So that's the next morning.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
That's the next morning where you could tell there was
a uh an altercation there and the weaves were left
on the ground and the wind just kind of blows
them along.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's like the good, the good, bad, and the ugly
tumble weaves. Clint eas wooden tumble weaves.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Wait a minute, Oh, that's like okay, you talk about
some of the Leslie Nielsen stuff like that. Yeah, you
got some of the top Gun knockoffs and some of
the other stuff they've done.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Do that intro one more time.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Which one the tumbleweaves? Oh? Clint Eastwood in the tumble weaves?
I like it. I like it. Now we just need
to reach out to him see if he wants to
start in the show.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Seem likes the sound of your voice.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Well, thanks Curtis for encourage and herd of roast me
there anything for you, buddy, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Now, Chris, you uh, you've been involved with. Now I'm
trying to read my notes and getting choked up. You've
been involved in some strange searches I have. So we
go back to, you know, learning the different.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Styles of people when you get law enforcement from where
I came from and then when I moved down to
the Anesota and uh, you know here in this area
we wear pants up around our or you know.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Waste area. Yeah, where where you should be.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So yeah, doing a search on a traffic stop and
guy gets you know, we get them out when you
search them. We have reasons to do a full search.
I'm doing a pat down on him and he's a
law long shirt on them, and so I'm reaching around
and narcotics, right, so it's already laughing. Yeah, you read
(33:09):
give him a reach around, wrote No, I give him
actual reach around. So I'm behind him, patting him down.
I reach around to his waist or where his waist
should be, because where his shirt is at. And uh,
I'm feeling like, oh, I just got narcotics. I feel
a bag. I'm like here, I'm like, what is it?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Tell me what this is? And he's like, man, leave
it alone. Was like, no, this is drugs. Let me know.
And I'm feeling I'm grabbing it, and he goes, dude,
that's my penis. Stop.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
So I lift up his shirt and his pants are
really far down you know where they shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
He said, surely are let me see it.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, let me let me see that bag, right. I mean,
we find arcotics and weird places, and I, you know,
being a rookie, I had no clue what I was
grabbing until I grabbed. And uh yeah, you know I've
seen videos that in the academy where people were doing
that and like Fort Worth cop shows and you think
you think I would have learned, but uh yeah, I
got me a full hand of uh.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So uh yeah, he's armed.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
He's armed.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Boys, It's like, uh no, no, we're good.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I don't think he allowed he enjoyed me, uh just
grabbing and squeezing. But did he put it? Do you
give you a dollar when you're done? You know, he
should have gave me. I gave him a full show.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
So oh.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
No, that's you know, not the first story we've heard
about that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And I also understand that there was a search that
you guys did on the residence and you guys found
found some I don't necessarily think it's a contraband depending
on how many you've got.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean if you can only actually hold or
possessed so many of these before, it's against law, which
I learned actually this day.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Why do you know this, Curtis okay, still just have five? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So we did a we're doing a search work on
the residents, and our CSI is there. He takes his
pictures and they're the ones that had to collect off
of our evidence and UH process it normally.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
So go in.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I'm searching the house. I'm looking for one particular item
that was described during an interview. And going through the
house master bedroom, I find this big bag of items
and the item I'm looking for is in there. So great,
But since that one item was in there along amongst
the other ones, I had to take them all. So
(35:43):
I grabbed the big bag. I let him take pictures,
but he doesn't know what's in it. I walk outside
and then I opened it up for him, handed to
him and it's a huge bag.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Of Dildove's adult toys toys right.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Which my suspect was not on scene, but his the
other half was, and I asked her because there was
a two headed one.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's like who, uh, who uses this double dragon? Okay?
Is that what they call it?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
The only answer she gave me was she was faithful
with her husband, so kind of gave me that answer.
But yeah, so we called that the bag of these?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
So are you wearing? Were you wearing gloves?
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I was wearing gloves. We have many stories about those.
Uh you know what we think is a two pressholder
searching cars?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah? When it starts vibrating, why is it vibrating? Why's
it vibrating? Steve?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You brought up something important here? Were you wearing gloves?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Christ? If we could go back to your previous story,
I was not wearing car.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
But a rookie mistake, you learn I was still somewhat
of rookie that I was less than five years but
I had a long shirt and some boxers in between.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
All right, so I'm somewhat safe. No, I don't think
so okay. I mean, it's good you didn't have gloves.
He might have a late takes allergy so out. And
that's why I don't use gloves, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I don't want to gamebody's sick and have them fall
out on me and they won't go to jail.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
No, are you still friend with them?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
You know?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Funny enough, he never talked to me again after that.
I don't know why. I hope we got along just fie.
We're very personal with each other. Everything was going well
and he never called back, like most of my dates.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Now, Steve had any strange searches in your time in
law enforcement?
Speaker 7 (37:41):
One we did a search warrant many years ago, and
when we do the search warrant, everybody gets coughed and
put on the couch. And after their search was conducted,
a couple of guys on my team found from VHS
tapes and they put the tapes in just to see
what was on them. I don't think they were part
of the there's a little search warrant, but I think
(38:01):
they were doing it just to be nosy. And the
film they the movie they put in happened to be
a homemade adult film And after it played for a
few minutes, we looked at the girl on the film.
Then we looked at the girl on the couch and
we realized it was the same person.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
So how did you realize it was the same person?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Her voice.
Speaker 10 (38:24):
A mole.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's always the mole.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
When you know, going back to the nickname meat Ball
in episode sixty, if you haven't check it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Out, that was the only adult film star I've ever
met in person.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
So where you at least to be kind of rewind
when you were done with this?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I think it was I think it was confiscated, but
I don't know if it was inventory.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
So they're all being detained. You got multiple people sitting
on a couch. I can just see them air and
hit this TV and these guys go through this film
in and they're playing it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
They played it for everybody on the couch.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, and all the offices.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, everyone, the suspects cuffed up. Hey can I get
some popcorn?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, there was some popcorn left on the stair. So
that we just finished.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
What was her reaction when she's sitting there with all
her all her buddies on the couch, watching herself on
this video.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Right in front of everybody, not a not a caro
in a whirl. Okay, well you're still friends with her.
Everybody saw her, So.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Still friends with her?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Just on just on Facebook?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, Facebook, and only fans are different. Promise any more
home videos made with a double dragon.
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Agents and we're back back to more Offbeat the light
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today in studio. We've got Deputy Chris Ratliff, thanks for
(41:25):
having me and joining us remotely.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
We've got Deputy Steve Coin.
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How you doing everyone now?
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Speaker 2 (42:27):
I think that's up. If one thumb up, one one
thumb up.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Something we learned during the break is that Chris, Yes,
Chris in fact has one thumb.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Bum in a quarter.
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Speaker 2 (43:28):
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Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well, the Guys over at the Treehouse. They on one
of their episodes this week. They they actually re released
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get this to see if we can't get to.
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Play Thailand, who was recently discovered living.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Among wild dogs as a boy.
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Okay, he only communicates by barking. After he was abandoned
and left with dogs by his drug addicted mother. Social
workers have intervened by the way to place the boy
in the children's home. Hopefully a no kill one.
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Was his name.
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It's the Baar necessity, a simple.
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Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I sent Danna message and I'm like, okay, that's you know, that.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Was a good one.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Hopefully it's a no kill home. Okay, let's get into this, Chris.
I understand that you've got a a story about about
a fight.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Lots of stories about fights, this one in particular. We
had a gentleman that loved to uh use PCP and
get naked and run around in public who doesn't every
Saturday at least, but uh, you know, we would encounter him,
encounter him several times, but he liked to fight.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
The issue is is when you're high on PCP, you
have no feeling. Basically you're super yeah, feeling no pain,
super strong. And then he was missing most of his arm,
right arm. So trying to fight him and get him handcuffs,
he kind of lean left, lean left yep, hit a
mad right hook though.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Uh so try to fight him and get on the handcuffs.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Let's say it's a task and I say he was
super strong, strong, but super strong and uh, back in
this time, we didn't have body cams. So we were
fighting them in front of my patrol car and we're
in the front yard driveway area and we get him
to the ground.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
We both fall. I'm on his back.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
We fall to the ground, and it looks like his
arm on the video we actually froze. It looked like
his right arm was punching through the ground as he's
holding me up on his back. So like super strength
is punching through And the only way you can get
him in the handcuffs is you handcuffed one hand. Then
you took leg straps and put it around the the
nub on the right arm and tied it to his
(46:35):
belt loop. That was kind of the way we had
to do it. But and it was a every time
we fought him. It was one of the hard hardest
fights I had. I mean, basically, it's one handed and
one handt behind your back basically, and it kind of sucked.
But he was always neckd and sweaty. So that was
the other part of it. You got to watch out
for Genitalia. Yeah, they call it the rat lift and
(46:57):
Stumpy show. Yeah, yeah, we yeah, we got along just fine.
You know, he had a stump.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I had one, so brothers, brothers.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
I tried to play that off foot them. He didn't
like it too much. He hated when you talked about
his nub. You don't talk about He was an ob sensitive.
You know, I don't know what to deal with.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You will never talk about another man's numb, especially when
you're searching them. Well, is this your nub?
Speaker 6 (47:25):
When you when you say it's kind of small and
you talking about the army matters in the world. I
promise you does. I had a quarter left. I mean,
christ is quick to point that out.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I have a quarter put that out there, but really
that we had that picture blown up and it's really
hard back in Daco's bechs and so on, but we
we blew it up and it was just him arm
in the ground, looking pungent to the ground, throwing me up.
I was on, you know, right for my life with
a one armed man.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So yeah, now I got to ask because obviously you
are you take this in stride about your injury to
your thumb, and in fact you okay, you said get
born in a quarter, so that means three quarters.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
If we're doing Mathew doing this right here. I'm not
good at math, so uh so let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
If you hitchhike, can you only go one direction?
Speaker 4 (48:16):
So yeah, I've had that question. So technically you should
be walking backwards because you know the side of the
road you're on. So I'm good, right, the cards will
be coming at me.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Now if you the law was the other way, we
can walk with uh, because you got to see the
cars coming at you. So anthumb's up.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
Well he uses this one for hitchhiking, the other one
for short cuts. Now, yeah, now what makes a haller?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Dude was doing swat call out swat signs, right, you
can't really do a swat sign.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
On me? On me? What what do you say? You
didn't see it? I didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
I didn't see it, or you know the Hawaiian thing,
you know, hang nine baby, you're kind of like hang
pinky loose, you know you can't or in the old
fill we uh to tilt the bucket.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
You had to do your pinky and thumb out.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Yeah, I'm very good at drinking proper right, Yeah, no
thumbs up, man, I just you got you got a
joke about it, so absolutely, that's why.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
No, that's why.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
I mean, that's that's why I think it's cool you
you take it to stride, and that's exactly what you
have to do. I mean, what doesn't kill you makes stronger.
And then when you win that fight and law enforced
me like I only had one thumb and you lost.
So I beat you with one thumb, not just tied
behind my back, I'm just gone, all right some more
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so I get to use.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
A handicapital Oh right, I can throw this index finger
up there, you know, do not know that?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Handicap against me? All right, guys, that's what we got
for today's show. Uh, Chris Steve, thanks, thanks for joining
us today, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
For having us, thank you for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's a pleasure of having bought you guys on the show. Guys,
until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay safe,
and watch each other six
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, The Light Side of Law Enforcement.
It's part of the Treehouse Podcast network. On today's show,
we'll hear about rookies climbing stairs.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Tigers. We're gonna we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Hear about tigers. Okay, yeah, tiger tigers and law enforcements. Hey,
I can't wait. Steve here. Co host for today, the
detective Curtis Hadley.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Great to be here, guys, and.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I guess we should mention we've we've got the lovely
miss Karen on the.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
End co co host today.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah right, co Coke Carrion. All right, we are joined
with two guests today. One guest joining us in studio.
We've got Deputy Chris Ratliffe, thanks for having me and
joining us remotely from an undisclosed location keep in the
heart of Texas. We've got Deputy Steve Coin, So welcome Steve.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
How are you today?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm very well? Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What do we What do we have today? Curtis, Lions,
tigers and bears.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, anybody got a bear story, because that really would
that will go that would go well? Uh No, you know,
we mentioned tigers and apparently we're going to hear a
tiger story today, But I did want to mention there
was something on social media, story on social media, and
we we all know it's.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
True because it's on social media. Absolutely, So let me
let me pull up this one real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He was a great story.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I feel like I'm getting set up here. Yeah yeah, bracureself.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Social media normally solves our cases for us. That's where
we go to. We want to solve the case.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
People can't help a tell it truth sometimes or.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Tell us how to do it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
There was an elementary school in Washington. The school was
placed on lockdown after someone reported what they believed was
a mountain lion near the school grounds. That's a good
reason lockdown is.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Absolutely doesn't sound like a bear story.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
No, no, it's it's it's not a not a bear story,
but it is a mountain lion story. So they end
up calling in wildlife officials. Uh school went into full
emergency lockdown procedures to keep the students safe and the
staff safe. And after the wildlife officials got there, they
they found out that the supposed mountain line was actually
(03:01):
a very large domestic cat. It was a tabby, and
in fact, the cat was eating a rat hear at
the back of the building.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, I was gonna offer some milk, but it's gonna
be rat to control. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, So they went on lockdown for the mountain lion
slash domestic tabby see higher in the country with all
the students would just grabbing guns and went out chasing it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's my shot. I saw it first.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
That just tells you how long it's been since they've
seen a mountain lion in that area, an actual one.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's Washington. Don't they have them?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
I would assume so, but maybe they've eradicated in their area,
and then that's what they think a mountain line looks like. Now, huh,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Karen's got a couple of mountain lions here roam in
the house. I believe it a couple.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, the big one's bitten a few times, so that's
a mountain dog. Yeah. We have a love hate relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, now, now, Chris you are you are currently a deputy?
How long have you been in longforcemith since two thousand
and nine, over sixteen years? And what agency you work with?
Wise County Shref's Office.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, wait, what do you do there for Wes's County.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Now, so now my main role there is an investigator,
so crimes against people.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, so you're an investigator crimes against people? So yeah,
so I do.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I work cases when people are assaulted, sexually assaulted, murders,
crimes against children, just everything.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah. Anything.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
If someone's harmed in any way, we go investigator. My
group investigates it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So, Karen, if you harm me in any way, I'm
calling Chris call me just so she works with me.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So I may have to go on her side. Oh yeah, God,
that always backfires.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I would move down to Terran County before you do that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And Steve, you're a returning guest. We had you back
on episode nineteen. You are currently a deputy at a
agency in North Texas.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
How long have you been in law enforcement? Sir?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Since nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
I worked for the Cook County Sheriff's Department in Chicago,
Calium Met Park Police Department, which borders the south side
of Chicago. Then I did almost twenty four years with
Chicago Police Department.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And have since relocated to Texas.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Correct about three years ago, three and a half years.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Ago, and still stayed in the profession. Yes, I have well, good, good.
That was a nice side there, Steve.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
But I did try the private sector for a little
bit in between and that didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And that's a story for another day.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, Well you know what, I'll hold you to that. Also,
now you I know you because you're a you're a bagpiper.
And again you you actually played your pipes on on
that didn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, they could have said you're full of hot air,
but I won't go there either.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So episode nineteen of the show You and You and
James Bad came on and you guys piped for us
in the show. I'll did a little piping. But one
of the big deals with you, Steve's you do a
lot of stare climbs. And for our listeners that don't know,
the stairclimb events actually are event scheduled each year and
(06:25):
they're in multiple cities across the country. But they memorialize
those that we lost in the September the eleventh attacks. Correct,
And I understand that you know you've you've been climbing
for a long time. We've got an event coming up
here in the Dallas area. But Steve, how long have you?
How long have you been doing the stair climbs.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
I started stare climbs in twenty twelve, but the first
nine to eleven climb I did was the one in
Dallas in twenty fourteen. Could most of them only allow firemen,
Apparently they have more time on their hands than we do.
And Dallas was one of the first ones that I
found that allow out police officers to climb too.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now there are other ones around the country that you've done.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Though, correct.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Yeah, it's a tunnel to towers event. I've done those
all over the country and I'm actually doing four climbs
in September.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Wow, So you are you're pretty much a professional stare climber.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
I did that for COVID put event in that for
a little bit. But I'd probably done over.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
One hundred climbs since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That'd make him a StairMaster. I get tired.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Okay, Steve, from now on, we're going to refer to
you as the StairMaster. I like that, Okay, the piping steermaster, Steve.
I'd be honest with you. I mean I had to
come up a flight of stairs just to get to
the studio today, and man stopped twice so yeah, man,
kudos to you. Now, how many how many stairs are
(07:58):
you climbing whenever you do these events?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
How many stories?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's a total of one hundred and ten.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Stories.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah, so most most depending on the buildings, anywhere between
roughly twenty two hundred steps.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, so.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Most of the climbs.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Is that one hundred and ten up and one hundred
and ten down.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Just out of Yeah, you don't climb down, they're.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Going to pay you down. You take the elevator.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
You take the elevator down.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is there an option to take the elevator up and
then walk down the stairs.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Unfortunately?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, okay no, but again, you know, and we're joking
about this, but in all seriousness, this is to memorialize
those that we lost in September September the eleventh attacks.
And do you do you have to raise funds in
order to participate in these kind of events?
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Yes, I mean it's uh, there's no set amount. You know,
they try to raise money each climb. I know Dallas.
Every year they their climb represents different charities, please and fire.
I think it's different every year. So you could probably
go on their website or their social media and see
who they're supporting each year.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Now, if if somebody wanted to make a donation to
your climb, where would they go to make that donation.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
You can either go to the website for each climb
or my website. I'm a non for profit since I'm
raising money for multiple climbs. You can go to my
website and I can give that to you when you're ready,
or you can post it at the end.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, let us have it.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Well, it's Shy Texts Irish Bagpipers dot com. So that's
CHI which is abbreviation for Chicago Texts obviously Texas Irish
Bagpipers dot com. And then you can go to the
about tab and you'll see donation links in there.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, very good. Check it out.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You guys, get out there support Steve and these these
claims that he's doing. And of course you said he was.
You said Shy.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Text Iris Bagpipers.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, Shy being the Chicago part, Texas being where you're
at now. And you know, you told us on episode
nineteen what you referred to Chicago as in the winter time,
and what was that term you used.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
The media came up with Shiberia.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
We had a couple of cold winners where the temperature
got very fire below zero. The wind show was probably
minus twenty or minus thirty. So they started calling it Shiberia.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And hence the reason he moved to Texas, right, because
I'm sorry, that's a.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Little bit cold, one of the many reasons.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And then the other one was you used another term
for Chicago when you were on you were talking about
some of the increase in violence, and you recall that
other term you used.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh, yeah, it's Iraq. You have the amount of murders.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I think Chicago has more murders than Iraq did at
one point, and I know they have more than New
York and LA combined.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Now, interestingly enough, you you're also you're also a bagpiper.
You've been piping for quite some time. You play with
a lot of a lot of different guys down here
in Texas from different agencies. And one thing we got
into on that previous episode, you've you kind of have
a movie star past.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Briefly, I did. Yeah, about twenty years ago.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
I was in the pipes and drums of the Chicago
Police Department and they were filming The Dark Knight in Chicago,
the one with Heath Ledger and they hired our band
to be part of that movie.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Very nice. So you you started in a Batman movie.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's still living off the royalties.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I still got a check every year.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Sometimes sometimes it's a few hundred bucks, sometimes it's less
than a hundred, but it's still something.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I'll my struggle to Blockbuster and ren it next week.
So Blockbuster, hiet, you.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Can write it on Beta.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'm just screaming on TV.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
What is beta?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, no, And that was interesting again, guys, Steve, I
had played that on episode nineteen, the little excerpt.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Of you being actually on that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So, guys, if you want to see see that part
of Steve in the movie, we've We've got it back
on episode nineteen or better yet, just watch watch the
whole movie and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
The Hardest Steve.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Do we get to see his feet? What part of
Steve do you want to see with Steve?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Steve, that's a different movie.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
We won't talk about it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, that's the one where he plays his full pipe.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
In order to play the bagpipes, you got to do
three things. You have to blow, squeeze, and finger at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Professional that's a lot of coordination. Yes, twelve times.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Now. Now, Chris, going back to you, you you brought
some stories with you today and one of those you
talked about was a rookie story, and not just any
rookie story.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You said it was the first day rookie story. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
So when I first got in law enforcement, I moved
down to Avinesota over by College Station area. And uh,
normally when you go to FTO, you start off in
dispatch and kind of get to feel of what dispatches,
dispatches go through and how it all works. Well, I
was in there for about two hours. My lieutenant came
in said, I'm bored, let's go teach you how to
be a cop. So I grew up in this area,
(13:42):
a bunch of country kids. We don't use a lot
of slang, term or anything like that. So we're driving.
He's like, hey, let's talk about you know how people
talk around here, and so he's gonna teach me what
he called the ghetto talk. So he was teaching me,
you know what, it's been a minute, you're a blasted me,
putting me on blast. And the funny part is I'm
(14:04):
driving first day and I'm in the Crown VIC and
he wants me to say I'm one hundred, so country me.
I'm like, okay, I'm one hundred. He goes, no, not
like you're one hundred, like the number you're you're one hundred.
And we go back and forth several times and he's like,
I want you to lean sideways in your car like
you're doing a ghetto ride and say I'm one hundred.
(14:25):
So I was like, all right, I'm one hundred. It's like, no,
you're too white for this, Sit back up and drive.
So that's kind of my first learn how to talk,
learn how to talk. My first learning skill in law
enforcement was learning how to talk. And I didn't pass.
I didn't do real well on the slang talk. I
did pick it up a little bit. I had a
(14:45):
kid ask me one day and goes, man, you're putting
me on blast. I'm like, or your blasted me? I'm like,
my gun's holstered. He goes, no, Officer rattl Liff, You're
an idiot. It's like you're making fun of you in
front of all these people. I'm like, oh my bad, sorry, yeah,
I mean I can't now we get it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Communications that the number one the number one skill you
got to have out there and yeah, okay, you match
someone's personality, how they're talking and all that. That's how
you talk to people into you know, handing their dope
over to you and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's just a matter of how you talk to them.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
But well, the other personality side of that, it was
I was went to my first domestic on that or
a few weeks later, and we we had hair extensions
here for like prom That's kind of it that we
ever saw.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I never saw.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Anything else on the department. No, yeah, sorry the department. Okay, wait,
this is going to be our first hair extension. I
was like, I didn't know that was put like no
up here in you know, Springtown area, you know, that's
the only thing I ever saw was hair extensions. And
went to my first domestic. Woman called in said that
her baby daddy was chasing her with a knife. So
(15:52):
I show up and she's running at me and it's
I see hair And then the hair is up in
there like debate to be okay, it's up and there, down,
up and down, and I'm like, oh, I'm freaking out
because I just think she was scalped. She's like, yeah, wow,
I like your hair. She goes, oh, that's just my
weave and start tapping her head. My ft O was
(16:12):
my corporal at the time, just started laughing at me.
He realized I had no clue what that was, what's
going on? And ultimately her baby daddy is like three
foot shorter than she is and she beats him up
and so on. But I had to learn what you know,
weaves were and different styles of hair and yeah, it's
just a big culture shot going down there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Well, you definitely get the lingo down because you're you're
talking baby daddy and stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Now, I can also tell you during my rookie years,
if you got to the scene and no one was there,
if you saw a weave or a bunch of hair
in the in the in the middle of the road.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You were. You were where it happened. Originally, that was
the original crime scene.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
That was the point of impact. Yes, they but impact,
I'm sorry. Well, they were on scene, it was there.
Everybody was in the bathroom. Couldn't imagine there's two bathrooms
and there's twenty people in one bathroom.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Why were they all in the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, they got to go there.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
They saw this, didn't want to talk about it, right,
So I was in a bathroom.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, Now you said why were they in the bathroom?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And I'm you know, we've got a deputy between us here,
so I think I can I can say this. Don't
most ladies go to the bathroom in groups as well?
Oh yeah, like a whole tribe.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, but that's for protection. Protection. Yeah, somebody's got a
hold your purse.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Purse, hair makeup has for protection.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I I'm just I'm sitting there.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Safety in numbers, Steve. We just don't get that as
men because we're Have.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You ever been attacked by a toilet?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I'll just say, you know, shotguns story, But I mean,
have you ever seen Jaws? There's water dinner somewhere.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Attacked by a toilet?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Oh yeah, No, one might be hiding in the bathroom
to get us.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Okay, or that tool that you talked about another episode
they got shot with a shotgun or something.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know, we can't get away from Stan Davies on
every episode. So yeah, he did you know he took
care of that toilet the shotgun. I remember, guys, safety safety, Uh,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Safety.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Little token for today, don't put your finger on trigger
until you're ready to shoot.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yep. Yep, don't forget that. Stand for listening now, Steve.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
We were talking about you, you playing your pipes earlier
on in it In. I saw on social media where
you just posted this. You just recently played with the
ACDC cover band back in Black.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I'm supposed to play with them tonight, but I'm unfortunately
recovering from a minor surgery, so I had to bail
on that. And I played with them a couple of
weeks ago at Grandscape, their outdoor stage by Nebraska Furniture
and Shields over there.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And also not only not only the ac DC that
you're playing a CDC music. I actually saw that you've
got one Copperhead Road that you played as well.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I did. I did Copperhead Road and Country.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Roads, Oh country Roads.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
If you go to that, well, if you go to
my website and look at the social media, you'll find
it on the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, and what's that site again, shy.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Text iris bagpipers dot com.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All right, you know we're gonna say that in so
many times, I'm gonna my sleep. I'm on textbagpipers dot com.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
You messed it up already.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Wow, I take a beating on here now let me
see the Chris. You mentioned.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
A tiger call to us, and you know, I worked
for a municipality in a you know, in a concrete jungle,
if you will. But we didn't have any concrete tigers
in our concrete jungle. But I'm just curious. No deputies.
You're out in the country, you see other things like that.
(20:00):
Perhaps maybe that's where we're going with the tiger story.
But should the tiger story with us? I'm anxious to
hear this one.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, so I have two of them.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
One's actually in Wise County, so and there was actually
tigers in Wise County. Tiger's in Weis County. So when
I came here to Wise County work, I was an FTO.
We got dispatched to a tiger over on one fourteen
that was loose and I looked at my FTO. I
was like, what do we do with a tiger? How
are we going to handle this? He's like, well, where
(20:28):
there's shotguns, and they are and we have guns. I'm like,
so there's no play and he goes never had one before,
Let's go figure it out. Luckily, there wasn't one when
we got there. But our very first tiger call in
the city where there shouldn't be any tigers. We just
sat down to eat. It was late at night, and
got dispatched to a tiger in front of a house.
(20:49):
Went over there, showed up, saw the tiger, put the
spotlight on it, thinking oh crap, what am I going
to do with this tiger? Jump out on it, you know,
like good cops do. We go after the danger. And
it was a huge stuffed animal. So we actually made
Paul because I decided, you know, to go and fight
this tiger. So I'm putting a choke hold. My partner
(21:12):
takes a picture of it, all fun and games like,
I'm fighting it. And then while I'm up there talking
to the residents saying, hey, can you put this tiger up?
And so no, we don't need any more calls. It's
on social media already. I'm getting call from the chief saying, hey,
get that down off social media. You're making people look stupid.
I have no clue what's going on. So that Monday,
we had a social media policy about posting work related
(21:35):
stuff on Facebook.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Yeah, poor poor Christopher Robin. Just figure, remember, guys, no
fun on duty.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
This is offbeat the like side of law enforcement. Check
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Speaker 1 (21:55):
Let's welcome Daniel Cook from Cook THEFW Roofing and Restoration
to the studio. Their number is eight three three Cook
DFW the website cookdfw dot com. Anything new in your world, Daniel, Steve.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
We've just been busy, man, and it's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You know, as you know, we do roofs.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
We do a lot of roofs. We you know, we
do over two hundred and fiftyree hundred US a year.
But we really have been expanding our other services and
as clients find out, we've been getting more and more referrals.
And so, you know a lot of our services people
don't know we do. And you know that includes, you know,
painting your home, fixing sheet rock floors, remodeling kitchens, remodeling bathrooms,
(22:40):
exterior painting, adding on patios.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
We just did a big patio add.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
On for a client, stamped concrete.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
So we have a great crew, We have great people
that really do phenomenal work. It's this amazing some of
the projects that we have. And now we're really building
out even on commercial. We just built out a State
Farm insurance office up here in the North section of town.
And you know, we're building onto a car dealership here
(23:11):
in Collin County, and so we do a lot and
it's amazing how much we've grown and how much we've
expanded our services. But we just want to give to
the people what they're asking and luckily we're able to
do that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Man, we've said it before on the show. You were
like an A to Z one stop shop when it
comes to working on a house. And you know, do
you need a roof, do you need gutters, do you
need new drywall?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Paint? Would work? Whatever it is, you guys can handle it.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
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And we're back back to more off Beat the Light
Side of Law Enforcement. Steve here co host today Detective
Curtis Hadley. Great to be here, guys and our We've
got co Coke Karen joining us today. I'm here, yes,
and we've joined with two guests today, one guest in studio.
(25:33):
We've got Deputy Chris Ratliffe. Thanks for having good to
be here and again joining us from a un disclosed
location slash hideout somewhere in the Yeahs.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Batman joining us from the batcave like Bruce Manor of
Bruce Wayne's manor the city.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We got Deputy Steve Coin.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
How you doing everyone now?
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FM dot com. Again, that's alex FM dot com. Curtis
is the dot com guy, Karen.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I want you to try to roast a little bit
more because when I roast Steve, it reflects poorly on
my paycheck. He can't do any Okay. If you think
he's gonna, you know, do anything later, just blink twice.
But I'm saying you roast as much as you want
over there.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I'll try.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Hence the reason I've got one of the local deputies
between in between y'alls. Yeah, although he's already said his
allegiances to his coworker.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, if it happened to Terran County, he can't help her, Kenny.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Now he's got Curtis on your side.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, just end to the table versus that in I
know the investigator of Arran County. Uh, I'm one of them. Okay, uh,
let's get into you.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Uh, let's get into a few more of these stories, guys,
some of them a little bit leary about.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But Steve, let's let's start with you. You.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You mentioned, you know, Chicago. There's some terminology used up
there that is different than terms that we use here
in Texas. Expand on that a little bit.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Well, I mean, obviously in Texas they say y'all. You know,
we say you guys like, hey, what are you guys
doing Texas? What are you all doing?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Now?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I call it pop. You guys call it coke. I
call it gym shoes.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
I think it's tennis shoes or sneakers if you're talking
about somebody you really don't like or uh. The term
jag off is very popular up there.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I've used that.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
I've used that term down here and people look at
me puzzles like they don't know what it means. And
like I mentioned earlier, we recently were selling our house
in Chicago, and I mentioned that our house does not
have a gangway.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
A gang a gangway, so you can't walk the plank.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, we'll be going here.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Well, if you if you can, if you want if
you don't have.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
A gang, Yeah, Cruci.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
The gangway in Chicago is just the the sidewalk that
goes between the houses that leads to your.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Side door, your backyard, or to the alley.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
And it's usually about ya white, you know, maybe a
person and a half wide, and.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So so question here.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
So it's a sidewalk between houses that that can lead
to your side door, the back alley. But it's called
a gangway. So do gangs frequently walk on this thing
between your house?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Not my house, but they do.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
There's a you're in I'll sink that like those little
parties you had that you had in the back that
they had to have a secrecy going to.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
You couldn't go to the front door. Okay, it's a
it's a party entrance. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now okay, so a gangway we call those sidewalks here, Steve.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean the house is that close though I don't
know some.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of them are.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
Yeah, you can pretty much reach out and touch your
house next door out of your window.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, So you mentioned you in regards to you, in
regards to gangways and stuff, you had a narcotics arrest.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, many years ago. We were.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
I don't remember all the circumstances, but it was a
a guy on a bike selling drugs and we jumped
out of the car and he took off on the
bike down the gangway and we were in foot pursuit
behind him. But the handlebars on the bike were wider
than a gangway, and he didn't know that until he
(30:02):
went over the bike. You know, he went over his handlebars.
So obviously somebody takes off on you on a bicycle,
you're most likely not going to cut them unless he
goes down.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
The gangway with a handlebars are too white.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
So was.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
One of the first times we were like laughing our
asses off while we were actually coughing the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Oh bit.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well, maybe he was from Texas. He had a Texas
bike and his handlebars were bigger in.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Texas the long way the Longhorn.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But you know so and Curtis, I guess that answers
your question about how much room there was between houses.
You can't even ride a bike down the gangway, so
some of these gangways you had to like walk sideways, sidestep.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You are we we call those curbs. Oh okay uh.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Now, Also in the first segment, we Chris shared a
story about a lady who had been scalped kind of
and you said that you had a term for, you know,
in regards to hear like that also, Steve, Wait, what
was that?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You used?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Tumble weaves?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
So that's the next morning.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
That's the next morning where you could tell there was
a uh an altercation there and the weaves were left
on the ground and the wind just kind of blows
them along.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
It's like the good, the good, bad, and the ugly
tumble weaves. Clint eas wooden tumble weaves.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Wait a minute, Oh, that's like okay, you talk about
some of the Leslie Nielsen stuff like that. Yeah, you
got some of the top Gun knockoffs and some of
the other stuff they've done.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Do that intro one more time.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Which one the tumbleweaves? Oh? Clint Eastwood in the tumble weaves?
I like it. I like it. Now we just need
to reach out to him see if he wants to
start in the show.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Seem likes the sound of your voice.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Well, thanks Curtis for encourage and herd of roast me
there anything for you, buddy, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Now, Chris, you uh, you've been involved with. Now I'm
trying to read my notes and getting choked up. You've
been involved in some strange searches I have. So we
go back to, you know, learning the different.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Styles of people when you get law enforcement from where
I came from and then when I moved down to
the Anesota and uh, you know here in this area
we wear pants up around our or you know.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Waste area. Yeah, where where you should be.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So yeah, doing a search on a traffic stop and
guy gets you know, we get them out when you
search them. We have reasons to do a full search.
I'm doing a pat down on him and he's a
law long shirt on them, and so I'm reaching around
and narcotics, right, so it's already laughing. Yeah, you read
(33:09):
give him a reach around, wrote No, I give him
actual reach around. So I'm behind him, patting him down.
I reach around to his waist or where his waist
should be, because where his shirt is at. And uh,
I'm feeling like, oh, I just got narcotics. I feel
a bag. I'm like here, I'm like, what is it?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Tell me what this is? And he's like, man, leave
it alone. Was like, no, this is drugs. Let me know.
And I'm feeling I'm grabbing it, and he goes, dude,
that's my penis. Stop.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
So I lift up his shirt and his pants are
really far down you know where they shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
He said, surely are let me see it.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, let me let me see that bag, right. I mean,
we find arcotics and weird places, and I, you know,
being a rookie, I had no clue what I was
grabbing until I grabbed. And uh yeah, you know I've
seen videos that in the academy where people were doing
that and like Fort Worth cop shows and you think
you think I would have learned, but uh yeah, I
got me a full hand of uh.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So uh yeah, he's armed.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
He's armed.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Boys, It's like, uh no, no, we're good.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I don't think he allowed he enjoyed me, uh just
grabbing and squeezing. But did he put it? Do you
give you a dollar when you're done? You know, he
should have gave me. I gave him a full show.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
So oh.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
No, that's you know, not the first story we've heard
about that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
And I also understand that there was a search that
you guys did on the residence and you guys found
found some I don't necessarily think it's a contraband depending
on how many you've got.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean if you can only actually hold or
possessed so many of these before, it's against law, which
I learned actually this day.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Why do you know this, Curtis okay, still just have five? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
So we did a we're doing a search work on
the residents, and our CSI is there. He takes his
pictures and they're the ones that had to collect off
of our evidence and UH process it normally.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
So go in.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I'm searching the house. I'm looking for one particular item
that was described during an interview. And going through the
house master bedroom, I find this big bag of items
and the item I'm looking for is in there. So great,
But since that one item was in there along amongst
the other ones, I had to take them all. So
(35:43):
I grabbed the big bag. I let him take pictures,
but he doesn't know what's in it. I walk outside
and then I opened it up for him, handed to
him and it's a huge bag.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Of Dildove's adult toys toys right.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Which my suspect was not on scene, but his the
other half was, and I asked her because there was
a two headed one.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's like who, uh, who uses this double dragon? Okay?
Is that what they call it?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
The only answer she gave me was she was faithful
with her husband, so kind of gave me that answer.
But yeah, so we called that the bag of these?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
So are you wearing? Were you wearing gloves?
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I was wearing gloves. We have many stories about those.
Uh you know what we think is a two pressholder
searching cars?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah? When it starts vibrating, why is it vibrating? Why's
it vibrating? Steve?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You brought up something important here? Were you wearing gloves?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Christ? If we could go back to your previous story,
I was not wearing car.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
But a rookie mistake, you learn I was still somewhat
of rookie that I was less than five years but
I had a long shirt and some boxers in between.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
All right, so I'm somewhat safe. No, I don't think
so okay. I mean, it's good you didn't have gloves.
He might have a late takes allergy so out. And
that's why I don't use gloves, you know.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I don't want to gamebody's sick and have them fall
out on me and they won't go to jail.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
No, are you still friend with them?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
You know?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Funny enough, he never talked to me again after that.
I don't know why. I hope we got along just fie.
We're very personal with each other. Everything was going well
and he never called back, like most of my dates.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Now, Steve had any strange searches in your time in
law enforcement?
Speaker 7 (37:41):
One we did a search warrant many years ago, and
when we do the search warrant, everybody gets coughed and
put on the couch. And after their search was conducted,
a couple of guys on my team found from VHS
tapes and they put the tapes in just to see
what was on them. I don't think they were part
of the there's a little search warrant, but I think
(38:01):
they were doing it just to be nosy. And the
film they the movie they put in happened to be
a homemade adult film And after it played for a
few minutes, we looked at the girl on the film.
Then we looked at the girl on the couch and
we realized it was the same person.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
So how did you realize it was the same person?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Her voice.
Speaker 10 (38:24):
A mole.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's always the mole.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
When you know, going back to the nickname meat Ball
in episode sixty, if you haven't check it.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Out, that was the only adult film star I've ever
met in person.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
So where you at least to be kind of rewind
when you were done with this?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I think it was I think it was confiscated, but
I don't know if it was inventory.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
So they're all being detained. You got multiple people sitting
on a couch. I can just see them air and
hit this TV and these guys go through this film
in and they're playing it.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
They played it for everybody on the couch.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, and all the offices.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, everyone, the suspects cuffed up. Hey can I get
some popcorn?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, there was some popcorn left on the stair. So
that we just finished.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
What was her reaction when she's sitting there with all
her all her buddies on the couch, watching herself on
this video.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Right in front of everybody, not a not a caro
in a whirl. Okay, well you're still friends with her.
Everybody saw her, So.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Still friends with her?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Just on just on Facebook?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, Facebook, and only fans are different. Promise any more
home videos made with a double dragon.
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Agents and we're back back to more Offbeat the light
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today in studio. We've got Deputy Chris Ratliff, thanks for
(41:25):
having me and joining us remotely.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
We've got Deputy Steve Coin.
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How you doing everyone now?
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Speaker 2 (42:27):
I think that's up. If one thumb up, one one
thumb up.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Something we learned during the break is that Chris, Yes,
Chris in fact has one thumb.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Bum in a quarter.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
What a thumb in a quarter? That's about a quarter thumb. Now, Also, guys,
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Speaker 2 (43:28):
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Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well, the Guys over at the Treehouse. They on one
of their episodes this week. They they actually re released
a new story, Dan did Dan O'Malley there at the
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get this to see if we can't get to.
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Play Thailand, who was recently discovered living.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Among wild dogs as a boy.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
Okay, he only communicates by barking. After he was abandoned
and left with dogs by his drug addicted mother. Social
workers have intervened by the way to place the boy
in the children's home. Hopefully a no kill one.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Was his name.
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It's the Baar necessity, a simple.
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Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
I sent Danna message and I'm like, okay, that's you know, that.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Was a good one.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Hopefully it's a no kill home. Okay, let's get into this, Chris.
I understand that you've got a a story about about
a fight.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Lots of stories about fights, this one in particular. We
had a gentleman that loved to uh use PCP and
get naked and run around in public who doesn't every
Saturday at least, but uh, you know, we would encounter him,
encounter him several times, but he liked to fight.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
The issue is is when you're high on PCP, you
have no feeling. Basically you're super yeah, feeling no pain,
super strong. And then he was missing most of his arm,
right arm. So trying to fight him and get him handcuffs,
he kind of lean left, lean left yep, hit a
mad right hook though.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Uh so try to fight him and get on the handcuffs.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Let's say it's a task and I say he was
super strong, strong, but super strong and uh, back in
this time, we didn't have body cams. So we were
fighting them in front of my patrol car and we're
in the front yard driveway area and we get him
to the ground.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
We both fall. I'm on his back.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
We fall to the ground, and it looks like his
arm on the video we actually froze. It looked like
his right arm was punching through the ground as he's
holding me up on his back. So like super strength
is punching through And the only way you can get
him in the handcuffs is you handcuffed one hand. Then
you took leg straps and put it around the the
nub on the right arm and tied it to his
(46:35):
belt loop. That was kind of the way we had
to do it. But and it was a every time
we fought him. It was one of the hard hardest
fights I had. I mean, basically, it's one handed and
one handt behind your back basically, and it kind of sucked.
But he was always neckd and sweaty. So that was
the other part of it. You got to watch out
for Genitalia. Yeah, they call it the rat lift and
(46:57):
Stumpy show. Yeah, yeah, we yeah, we got along just fine.
You know, he had a stump.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I had one, so brothers, brothers.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
I tried to play that off foot them. He didn't
like it too much. He hated when you talked about
his nub. You don't talk about He was an ob sensitive.
You know, I don't know what to deal with.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
You will never talk about another man's numb, especially when
you're searching them. Well, is this your nub?
Speaker 6 (47:25):
When you when you say it's kind of small and
you talking about the army matters in the world. I
promise you does. I had a quarter left. I mean,
christ is quick to point that out.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I have a quarter put that out there, but really
that we had that picture blown up and it's really
hard back in Daco's bechs and so on, but we
we blew it up and it was just him arm
in the ground, looking pungent to the ground, throwing me up.
I was on, you know, right for my life with
a one armed man.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So yeah, now I got to ask because obviously you
are you take this in stride about your injury to
your thumb, and in fact you okay, you said get
born in a quarter, so that means three quarters.
Speaker 4 (48:05):
If we're doing Mathew doing this right here. I'm not
good at math, so uh so let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
If you hitchhike, can you only go one direction?
Speaker 4 (48:16):
So yeah, I've had that question. So technically you should
be walking backwards because you know the side of the
road you're on. So I'm good, right, the cards will
be coming at me.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I'm good.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Now if you the law was the other way, we
can walk with uh, because you got to see the
cars coming at you. So anthumb's up.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (48:33):
Well he uses this one for hitchhiking, the other one
for short cuts. Now, yeah, now what makes a haller?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Dude was doing swat call out swat signs, right, you
can't really do a swat sign.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
On me? On me? What what do you say? You
didn't see it? I didn't see it.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
I didn't see it, or you know the Hawaiian thing,
you know, hang nine baby, you're kind of like hang
pinky loose, you know you can't or in the old
fill we uh to tilt the bucket.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
You had to do your pinky and thumb out.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Yeah, I'm very good at drinking proper right, Yeah, no
thumbs up, man, I just you got you got a
joke about it, so absolutely, that's why.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
No, that's why.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
I mean, that's that's why I think it's cool you
you take it to stride, and that's exactly what you
have to do. I mean, what doesn't kill you makes stronger.
And then when you win that fight and law enforced
me like I only had one thumb and you lost.
So I beat you with one thumb, not just tied
behind my back, I'm just gone, all right some more
(49:42):
so I get to use.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
A handicapital Oh right, I can throw this index finger
up there, you know, do not know that?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Handicap against me? All right, guys, that's what we got
for today's show. Uh, Chris Steve, thanks, thanks for joining
us today, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
For having us, thank you for having me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
It's a pleasure of having bought you guys on the show. Guys,
until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay safe,
and watch each other six
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