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September 10, 2025 53 mins
Wise County Sheriff's Deputies Chris Ratliff and Carter Savage share their wild and hilarious stories about proper taser probe placement, SWAT extractions, and why fences are not your friend. Plus more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
On today's show, we'll hear about being banned.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
From schools okay, that's always good for an officer, absolutely
collapsing in hallways, how not to pay for drugs, toys
good to know, how not to pay for drugs, and
who knows what else we'll get into. Steve here co
host for today, Detective Curtis Hadley.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Great to be here, guys, and we're joined with two
guests today. We've got Deputy Chris Ratliffe, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And we've also got Deputy Carter Savage. Great to be here,
sob Deputy Savage. Yes, that's a wrestler's name, the Garter
Savage to the ring. I was gonna ask him if
you had a brother named Fred.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh yeah that too. Yeah. Well, Curtis, good to have
you back from co pilot chair over here. I love
you here.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Now let's let's start with with Chris. Chris, you are
a returning guest. You've been on our show before, and
let's remind our listeners you are a deputy with the
Wise County Sheriff's Office. Correct, yes, sir, how long have
you How long you been there at the Sheriff's office?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
About eleven twelve years? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And you actually you had previous work experience with another agency, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes, allo, over five years in Avinesota.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, so you got in sixteen years total if I
did the math right, and I don't always do math.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
On count nine or nine right.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, let's remind our listeners. We established you have half
of the thumb.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I do well, right, quarter of a thumb, all right,
so one thumb I have the full time on the
other side.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, size does matter, so we count that quarter I
did you have? You got to give me that wait linked? Yeah,
I don't have to give you nothing. Oh yeah, give
that link?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know what being when you since you've been on
the show before. Now you're a repeat offender, so yes,
uh And Carter, how long have you been in law enforcement?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Just under three years their okay? All with the wise
County Chef's office. Yes, very good. Any any special assignments
near your time so far? I'm a swat officer, very good,
swat officer or swat operator officer okay, to the fireman
of a police foreman, you know, sit around all day
to work out when they want to drink coffee.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Drink coffee. Then never so often they do something.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
That'd be greater for a full time Yeah, oh it
is really really part time or.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Got Well, it's good having both you gentlemen in here today.
And you know that said you guys sprout a a
hell of a lot of stories with you, So let's
let's jump into the really savage, I want to start
with you because your last name savage. All right, that
implies several things, right you you are in fact, I mean, well,

(03:10):
I'm savage.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yes, sir, we look at him.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, which might explain why you have a story about
being banned from schools Yes, sir, uh, it's an unwritten
rule at the at the Sheriff's office. Prior to the
new sheriff getting here, I got as a patrol defie.
I got asked to go to the school to cover
an sro And I got there and I was just

(03:35):
I went in, introduced myself to the principal and I said, hey,
I'm gonna be in my car. I got reports to do.
She's like, okay, I'll call you if I need you.
I'm like, okay, cool. I went to the bus route
where they come and pick up kids, and I'm just
sitting there jamming out reports and all I see is
four teachers sprinting through the school out to me and
knocking on my window. Hey, we have a kid here.

(03:56):
He's he's wanting to hurt everybody in the school. And man, okay,
so yeah, I gotta work. Literally, I was five or
six report Steve like I needed to. I need to
cram out some paper. So uh, we sprint through the
school and I get there and uh, he has like

(04:17):
five or six teachers in there, and I basically get
him up out of the out of the chair, and
I was like, look, all these teachers are paid to
be nice to you. I'm gonna mess you up if
you kind of heard everybody in here, and uh, this
is this is down playing. What I actually said to
him basically made him cry, but actually it was actually
a very good conversation. But where it turned into I

(04:38):
was no longer allowed at the school was after his
mother came to pick him up, called the Sheriff's office
and started to complain on me for for talking bed
to her.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Son, and uh, hell, dare you yes?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yes, And yeah it was I was coming into I
was coming into the dispatch and you know, my dispatchers
are behind the computers typing away, and they're like, yeah, hey, savage.
Mom called and she said that, uh, it's okay, her
son's autistic. And I was like, oh, okay, he didn't
look autistic, and you just all the typing just stops

(05:15):
and then you just see like the head pop up
of the lead of the lead uh dispatches. She's like,
what do you mean he didn't look autistic? And I
was like, you know the odds and and they're like,
that's down syndrome. And I'm like, uh oh, I'm so,
I like legitly didn't know. I like, uh it was.

(05:39):
It was not a good Everybody busted out laughing. I
was like, I'm sorry, it was an honest mistake.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I can't dig out of that one.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, I'm a law enforcement professional. I'm not a medical
professional here too diagnose.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
And subsequently from that, I they were basically like, hey,
uh no, patrol deputies go to her places.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
We got to learn how to talk to kids. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh I'm telling now. I could not make it as
an s R. O. And when one kid won't want
to talk back to me, I will treat him like
my marine father taught me yep, to not to talk
back to kids or not to talk to me.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So I don't envy that job a bit. I don't
see an issue whatsoever. And when he said down syndrome,
and I thought they were talking about.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
You, Yeah, I know, I know I do have it.
I do have it partially in the right eye, you know. Yeah,
you never you never know what we're gonna hear on
on here though.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
But I do understand Chris that Savage likes to work out.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Savage does like to work out.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
He likes to be hardcore with it during SWAT trainings
when we get ready to do any type of training,
but mostly PT, when we're gearing up or gearing down
whatever PT we're about to do with training, you look
over and he's always putting his gas mask on.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's like, all right, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
And you know, if we're going to work out, we
should do it in gas masks because that's how men
do it, and so on, and always wants to do
gas mask mask.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's true. Wait, what's the what's the affection towards gas mask?
So having been on the SWAT team a while.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Now, ninety percent of our calls are all using gas okay,
And I'm like, okay, well, we got to train the
way we fought boys.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Everybody a kid up. It's true. We're about to put
in some.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Work, pull a pin and throw a little I haven't
gotten that far yet, but I've wanted to. They just
don't let me get the gas because I honestly, if
they did, I'm like game changer boys.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Start with the flash bang and then we're gonna end
up with a little CS and yeah, go ahead and
give me two hundred push ups.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Everybody's gonna be feeling it's a Saturday night of my house.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
The lock on the gas box is not because of
any type of federal regulations as far Savage.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Keep him out of the box. Yeah yeah, well yeah,
because I want you to deploy that stuff. Then you're
like thirty seconds into your workout, okay, everybody remove your mask.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh yeah, always those to toes. So I'm his workouts
are pretty okay. He loves to make sure we can't breathe.
So that's a great time.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Now, Chris, you watch so you know, stick on you
here and training. You mentioned you mentioned a story about taser.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Training, so well, prior to this, I've already went through
taser training, so I didn't think I had to do
it again.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But when my annually buddy, my old.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Agency, we finally got tasers and like, hey, we're all
going through it. I'm like, I'm certified. I don't need
to do this, and he's like, nope, we're doing it.
So since I was certified, they were showing different targets
on the body and they're trying to get lower and
upper on my body.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, yeah, I mean
it used to be you had to get in order
to get certified, you had to get hit with the taser,
and then they changed that you don't. I didn't have
to get hit with It's up to the agency whether
or not they do it. But you're talking re taser recertification.
You got to get hit again.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Right, and this is twenty twelve. Did everybody else get
hit again or did you just fall?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, there was only two of us there that had
been certified prior, so they wanted everybody to go through it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh of course, you know, and then I've already done it.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
But so my first one, they actually stuck clips clamps
to me and crips. This one actually shot me, but
again they wanted to show different positioning and they shot
me like I said, lowering upper and when they fired,
I hit the ground. And then they told me where
it was and they weren't going to remove it, and
I had to do it myself because.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It went in between the cheeks on my bottom. Yeah,
we call that the plumber shot. Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
So they cut the wire and the only bathroom was
a public bathroom in this community center. So I went
in there, I got my trousers, was in the mirror.
I had a bandage up and it I don't know
if you know, but your bottom bleeds a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So I'm bleeding everywhere and this I wasn't aware of that. Noah,
it does, well, it does.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I pulled out and I'm getting ready to bange myself
up and some guys walk in and I'm just but
out blood everywhere.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
They look at me like, what the hell just happened?
So did you lose something? It was bloody.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
So that was my funny taser training situation I went through.
And I will never get tasted again on purpose. Now,
you you need like a lifetime exemption certificate.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Or I would rather get pepper spray all day, you know,
any day, if I had to choose to to Yes,
even gas, I did not do well with gas either.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
But I I don't know though, Rather rather get tasted
in the pepper sprayed, I agree with you, but rather
get taste in the butt.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Crack pursues pepper sprayed. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like I said, you get hitting the crack dis route
that injured career has been a plumber never again, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
But yes, therapy was probably needed, but you know it
was over and done with once I got embarrassed and
so on.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Ohc still sticks with you for ever. Yeah, that that's
the gift that keeps on giving.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You think you got it all washed off, and then
next day or whatever, it relights itself.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
I'm just glad they warned us to not just give
the water in our face in the shower, you know it.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Make sure you lean over. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
We did have a guy in the academy that was
in a showers that just had on his face and
he starts screaming because it went down and.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Red hot twigs and berries. Yeah, everything flows downhill anyways, now, savage,
I want to call you savage. Savage is coul that's cool?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Now savage you you said that you have an affection
towards fences.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh, they are the bane of my existence.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Really, I can't tell you the foot mint of foot
chases I've been in where the fence has got its
lick on me. Uh scars even I'm I am not
a precision instrument. I make blunt object. Yes, So if
I see a fence, I want to run through the

(12:06):
fence because I know the fence will win if I
try to try to go over it. And one of
the one of the last times, it was about a
forty forty yard section of fence and this dude runs
from us out of the house and we take off
after him. One of my one of my deputies, skinny
petite dude, clears the fence and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh yeah, it made it look easy. Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
I was like, oh man, it and it's it's it's
sagging down like the bob wire has sagging.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So I was like, okay, dude, this is the day
I'm going to do it.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
And I go, my foot catches the fence, I twirl,
I hit the ground and all forty yards of the
fence just collapse down. Yes, And the farmer just looks
at me and I look at him. I'm like, I'm
sorry about your fence, man. Yeah, metal fence it was.
It was a mixture of wooden metal and pipe, all

(12:59):
ball wired bob wired together. It was the most rinky
dinky fence. But I still feel bad about it because
this this old time farmer, he's probably seventy years old. Yeah,
and he's just sitting there looking at me, and I
was like, in one fell motion, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
This poor guy's like, you know what, the horses can't
even knock this thing down. This guy hits it just right, juggernaut.
Now how bad you feel? Did you go back and fix.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
It for him? Oh? Oh no, no no, I mean
it's not that bad. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
But in the County not you are talking about some
other episodes about you know, concrete cowboys. In the county,
it's mostly barbed wire. So if you don't it's not
like a wooden fence where if you hit it you
don't make it, you get a second try, and so on.
If you tried jumping that fence, if you don't make it.
You're getting cut up English me. Oh, I had.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
I had to go home one day on patrol because
it ripped my pants straight down the middle. And I
didn't know. I had no idea. And I got back
to my car and I sat down and I just
looked down. Yeah, and my patrol sergeant, I just got
off FtM my patrol s was like, go home, get
some new fants.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, only have one left. That sucks. Yeah. Fences were
never my friend, Curtis you ever clear fence? Oh?

Speaker 6 (14:22):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, remember Brad, he was on the show while back
for Me and Polly and him. Me and him, we
were invised together and we were collections one day. All
we did was sitting there collections. They bring the people
to us, right, And all of a sudden I hear
him screaming the radio that one of them took off running.
So me and him hop in the van and we
drive around the river real quick, and I jump out
and I'm looking at this dude and I see him
pop his head up, So I mean to come up

(14:44):
with my gun. I'm ear screwing him with his gun.
And Brad's on the other side of the fence. And
you think it's poetic. He had been bragging about these
brand new wranglers stretches. Man, they fit great. And he
comes up and he's like, help me cut this dude.
I look down and he has ripped one leg from
from ankle all the way to the crotch and he
looking at me.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I was like, what happened? He goes you started screaming.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I didn't know what to do, so I just ran
to the fence and I was like, I owt am
a pair of pants.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
After that. Oh yeah, that's that's a good partner out
there for you man. Yeah, he's well, absolutely sacrifice some
good pants there you go. Yeah, fence fences are just
they've they've never been my friend. No, they make good neighbors,
not partners. Fair point.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Now, last time we had we had you on Chris.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Shortly thereafter the Wise County.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
The guys at the Sheriff's office, you guys actually have
a a.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Nonprofit called Gift to the Badge.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
We do, and that's you guys fundraise and then once
you've got the funds, you guys help out underprivileged families
in the county, in particular around Christmas time. As I understand, yes, sir,
uh but after you were on last time, you guys
had a fundraiser and it's in why Is County and
the de Caater. There's this an event very popular around

(16:02):
here called the Old Settlers Reunion. And one of your fundraisers,
you guys go out there and you do traffic traffic
jobs and stuff like that. And my wife Karen's actually
involved with that as well. And I found myself shortly
after you were on the show out there volunteering helping
park cars and it's like, here's your traffic vest and

(16:24):
here's your flashlight. And I said, you know, I'm retired,
this is what the hell's going on here? And yeah,
really really felt like I was being Yes, maybe took
you for a settler.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, maybe so maybe so It's like, I guys, old enough,
we're doing it's yeah, give it a vest.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Give to the Badge as a great UH foundation and
you know and helps out lots of family and kids,
and we, you know, officely, we give them presents, We
buy them clothes and food and yeah, we you know,
every year or the weekend before we go deliver all
the gifts to them. And it didn't have to be
you don't have to give it to him. They can
always come up to us. But the event you're talking

(17:06):
about and collecting the you know, parking and so on,
it's it's a it's a funny event. It's hard, it's
hot and dusty. Hin the reason why I always try
to get on the full wheeler. If you saw me that,
you saw me on it.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
That's all. I'm on the four whelder all the time.
I had my time in that's right, Chris.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
As a matter of fact, when I was wearing my
traffic vest and using my flashlight directing people where to park,
I did see you pass by a couple of times
on a four wheeler.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
So yeah, so much for brotherhood, Curtish, Well, you know
how it goes. It's yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I was doing.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
The HILM I was driving by. Did you see me
driving a forwarder though I can't drive up my thumb.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, I was talking about that.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, it's yeah. The index finger is what I'm using.
But I can do some crazy stuff in that full wheler.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I don't worry. He can only go a quarter of
the speed.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I can't even read to them with dumb It's like
have my wrist underneath the throttle to touch it.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh, all right.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Savage, you brought lots of stories today, and let's go
back to the You know, Chris shared that you like
to work out in gas masks.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
You've got to you brought a story about a gas
mask guy. Gas mask guy.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Oh yes, so so this actually you brought it. Yeah,
this actually leads into that the hallway falling uh, falling
down went to a call. This lady was barricaded herself
inside the house. We didn't know she had barricaded her
side herself inside the house, and she had she had

(18:42):
screwed in barn barn locks, so like two by fours
across her her her door, and we're trying to get in, thinking,
you know that she's she needs us. So we're banging
down the door and one of my partners, uh, Corporal
Worsen uh uh, it's sitting there. I was like, all right, hey, uh,
I found a hammer. Let's uh, let's knock this. Let's

(19:04):
knock the lock off, Like okay, uh so I'm I'm
sitting there, you know, I'm ready to go in. I'm
right behind him and goes to knock the knock the
door handle off, hammer releases from his hand, goes right
between my legs. And this is caught on like four
different angles of our body cams.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Wow, and like I'm like, I now I'm scared.

Speaker 5 (19:26):
I'm not. I'm not going behind you now the smell,
You're dangerous man. Yes, he was on the ball. Yeah
with that, with that hammer. Oh yeah, with that hammer
he was deadly so. But what he has not said
in the body cam is that it was a repulsive smell.
And I was like, you know what, it'screw it. I'm
going to get my gas mask.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Like I said, anytime I have the opportunity to use it,
I grab it. So I grab it, I stick it on.
I'm the only one out of all the patrol deputies
that has their gas mask on. And uh, Corporal worsing.
Uh again he's like okay, hey, I'm gonna get through
this door.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Like okay. So he has that ball peen hammer again,
he has that, he has a screwdriver.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
You're not standing behind him this time, though, No, No,
I'm I'm a little offset from him.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Uh. And uh, I go up.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
I find a pick axe, broken down pick axe on
the don't give that to him?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, no, no, this is it. I found it.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I was like a barn. Hell, we all at yeah,
this is a horror movie. This is just out in
the county, man, this is And then they got the chainsaw. Hey,
believe it or not, we were looking for a chainsaw.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
So I get up, I find the pick axe, and
I'm I'm standing like offset from him on the on
the walkway of this house, and he's like, okay, I'm
from the love of God. I don't know why he
had a screwdriver, but he hits the screwdriver on the
door and the entire walkway just collapses and caves in,
and I'm like, uh, you know the butthole puckering moment,

(20:55):
like when you know you're on a dilapidated structure and
you're just like, oh god, we're going yeah the other
baby hold together, yes.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
And I was like, get off, it's my turn.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
And so I just start smacking this door with this
pickaxe like like.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
A murder film. I'm just coming through the door. Here's Johnny. Yeah,
here's Johnny. Right. Finally ripped the door off and we
get in there.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
But the whole it became me being the gas mask
guy is because like no one else had a gas mask,
and I was like, huh, I'm gonna put one on.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
I can't stand the smell. So uh it was another
day in West County.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
So the smell you're talking about, I have a different
gas or a different mask for that, So that's what
I would put on.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Oh yeah, oh, I don't have one of them. I know,
I know. I'm fancy. It's like the COVID ninety and
I know the whole factor. Yeah, thing very well.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Well do you also know the the taser but factor also,
That's what I was getting at.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
This is offbeat the like side of law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Checked us out on line at offbeatcopshow dot com.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Let's talk to Daniel Cook now from Cook DFW Roofing
and Restoration. Eight three three Cook DFW is the phone number.
The website is COOKDFW dot com. How are you today, Daniel?

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Doing fantastic, sir? Thank you well, Daniel. We've got winter
coming up here. Winter's a lot different from summer when
it comes to how it affects your your home and
there's there's a lot of things you know, you need
to make sure our operating on your home that are
in good shape. But what kind of what kind of
advice can you give give folks right now in regards

(22:37):
to making sure their home is ready for the winner.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
Yeah, Steve some great topics right there. So you know,
we always come out of summertime it's it's it's been
stressful in your home. It's been stressful in your yard.
The heats really takes a beating. Now this year, we've
been very fortunate. This has been a very mild summertime
that we've had, and plus we've had more precipitation than normal.
But even with those items like that, you know your

(23:01):
roof is still taking a beating. We've had some early
spring storms like we always did. We actually had storms
all the way until June this year, and then you know,
we've had a couple of months of hot weather, so
you don't know what your roof actually probably has wrong
with it unless you get it looked at. And now
we're fixing to go into fall and winter, and you
know we're gonna have heavier rains, we get some heavy

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it going? And Deputy Chris Savage. Good to be back.

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Speaker 2 (26:17):
So you have a voice for radio. I do have
a phase for two. Let's jump back into some of
these stories. Guys.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Uh now, savage, you you had mentioned something about a
swat operation.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And being stuck in the car.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yes, sir, yeah, uh so, DPS had come with us
with a really high profile warrant and we went into
this compound about forty cars deep.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
It was awesome, uh, wild to see. You know.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
I am in the process of replacing our breacher, so
I have the breaching tools on my back.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And wait, wait, I got a question.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yes, sir, are you replaced your breaching tools with a
pick axe?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, believe or not. I have it in my
patrol car. Okay, next to the gas preacher. Yeah. I'm
not the preacher anymore.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Uh, but I was learning from the breacher who's a
just a stacked dude, and I saw I have his toolkit.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
On the back on my back, and I'm jammed inside
of a tahoe. And generally you'd think that tahoe wide
space you can get out now. Not not the case.
We're in full kit uh no gas mask this time,
mind you. But I have the halligan and the bolt
cutters like almost above my head because of I'm sitting

(27:40):
in the seat. Well, we get up there, we're thirty
seconds from objective, and I'm starting to, you know, get
ready to get my head right. And we pull up
not twenty feet from the door, and all the doors
fly open. Everybody starts running out of the cars, going
to their positions, and I open my door and I
just go to get out, and I'm stuck, and like

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I want you to just picture this, like I'm half
my whole body is hanging out of the side of
the door and I'm like flailing my arms with a
rifle on my chest trying to get out. That's like
right at six flags, yo, man, Like I was fighting
for my life and I don't think anybody understands. And

(28:23):
I was like one of one of the breachers. I
yelled his name three or four times, and you just
see his big old moose head turn around and he's like, oh,
he comes running back to me.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I was like, I'm stuck.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
I'm stuck, and he just like he has huge arms,
so he just comes up and just rips me out,
like knocks off the paneling inside the tahoe and and
I'm this is this is on objective to this is
twenty feet away from the door that we're about to hit.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Like somebody helped mom go out of the car place.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, And I was given I was given one rule like, hey,
when we get to that door, you better be there.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And I'm sitting here like I'm not there. You're the
one guy we needed here. I'm not the one job.
One job failed. The guy with all the tools to
reach the door.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
We are.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
We're just standing at attention like we'll we're missing here.
Guys were the tools that guy he's still out there
screaming help.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
I was.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I was literally screaming help. So if you listen to
the terminology to military over here, just so you know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Military, Yes, we're branch. I was in the Army. Stir outstanding.
Thank you for your service, sir. I think if you'd
had a fireman in the car, you've been okay.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, well, they would have had a bigger truck. I
would have had a lot more space. You know, maybe
he would have lived and let me dress up to
Every cop wants to be a fireman, right, that's why
you're just.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
There that's got their job of being in a lounger
all day, just waxing your mustache.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, and savage, you did mention.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
You did mention to me, so something about you know,
and this might I don't know, you wouldn't have to
worry about this if you're a fireman. But you mentioned
something about leaving your pistol in the jail.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely did do that.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
And this is not this is not just specific to you.
We hear a lot of these. Well, let's hear yours.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Well, you know this is coming from the military background, right,
And I was in I was in the infantry. So
if you if you left your weapon anywhere you were,
your soul was crushed, your team leader. Yeah, and so
this is the first time ever, really that I had
left my weapon anywhere other than with me, and uh, I.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Stuck it inside the box, locked it up.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Well, as like our radios can't really pick up a
strong signal inside the jail at that time. And so
as I'm leaving the sally Port, I get a it's
a call man with a gun threatening his neighbors, and
so I'm like, oh hell yeah. So like I shoot
out of there, jumping my car and we're hauling. I

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don't even know that I don't have my gun until
I get there. And when we get there, we end
up having to clear three houses because dispatch got the
got the uh the address wrong? Uh your hand that
point so so and here and this is the once again.
Everybody just close your eyes and picture this. Right, I
get out of my car, right, I'm I'm first one unseen.

(31:25):
I get out of my car. And then he didn't
get stuck, did he?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Yeah, no, not not that time. So I reached down
and go to draw my weapon and my hand goes
inside my whole of.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Your heart drops. Oh oh man, you got a little
key on a ring. Yeah, you got a right whistle?
Yeah yeah? And then help yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
And then my uh, my patrols supervisor gets there second
from me and automatically realizes that, hey, you left your
pistol in jil and it just very subtly says that
to me. Now and once again my heart is not
even in my body anymore. Uh. And I was like,
you know what, I got a little bit bit of
motivation because in the infantry you're a rifleman.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
And I was like, I got my riffle boys.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well they are ironic part as you were heading to
a person leaven you're a man with a gun and
you were the man without a gun.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yes, yes, I was.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yes, it's a new age. We're trying to bring things down.
Kinder Gitler, I'm unarmed. I'm unarmed, man. Put your gun down.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Put your gun.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
See how far that one goes for you? New de
escalation technique. You don't take your to the fight. It's like, look,
my holster is empty. I'm not even wearing pants. Man,
I did this for you. Five example why I stopped
putting my gun.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, always put mind the trunk.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
So the last time I forgot mine was in a
trunk and I made it all it to a shots
fired call and I jumped out, freaking out.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
But I had it in a trunk.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
But keep on his old crown vict So when I
got there, it was nowhere where I put it, So
I search for it.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
To my I was like, I.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Wouldn't put my gun baton on the flare box, so
the first time I took a corner, it would roll
off and you hear you stop, get out just real quick.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Yeah, I leave mine in my in my seat and
my driver's seat. So when I go to get in
my car, I'm gonna sit on it if I don't
know it's there.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Obviously, So he's a car pop. He's not gonna get
shot in the ass with the taser.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
I can order for this. I got hitting the buttks.
I just reached out a bit.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
They said it was a making daughter wound. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Anyone who tells you they have not left their gun
in a lock box somewhere is.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Probably lying to you. Academy never made it. Arrest went
straight to admin. Oh wow, out a passage. Yeah, don't
tell my boss said that. Oh, I'm sure they won't
hear this. No, we won't send it to him.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
All my admin have all been They worked from the
patrol up, so we're good that.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm aware of that. You're aware of all, right, Savage.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
You also talked about trash under a laptop, and I'm
assuming you're referring to the laptop in your car.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yes, sir, Yeah, I don't know. I honestly don't know
where this story got started. But like my car is
is pretty pretty good. I don't keep trashing it. I
keep it nice. We have take on cars.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Okay, so this is just decided to you.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
You're not no, I'm not sharing it with anybody. Well,
my first car was a refurbished I say that word
because the engine blew up and they gave us a
new engine. Not by me, but a prior deputy that
worked here. I got her car, and it was a
nice car. I treated it well well, unbeknownst to me.

(34:53):
She and I say she because I think she was
the only person who had this car before me. Uh
would go get fast food, water, Burger, McDonald's, the such
and the base plate of the electronic board in the
center console was screwed off. Well, I mean I didn't
think anything of it. This is the way I got
the car. Well, what she would do was she would

(35:16):
stick all her trash inside the center console, inside the
electronic being underneath the underneath the laptop. I had no
idea about this. Well, it comes to me where I
get to now change cars and get a better car.
I give mine up and the head of the fleet
was like basically just passed all this information around.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
It was like, hey, Savage has a whole bunch of
trash in his car. That's the reason nothing works in there.
Like my radio would never work.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
My my laptop would die all the time, I couldn't
get partial, most of the lights wouldn't work on my car.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
And I'm and.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
I'm sitting there like I never knew why nothing would
ever work in that car. But as the story is told,
and this used to make me very mad, believe it
or not, but it just got passed around the Sheriff's
office that I just stuck all my trash inside the
center console and I broke all my electronical equipment. Uh,

(36:14):
I was very upset.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
To be honest with you, it's probably the cholesterol, I
wouldn't you.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, yeah, so I've heard that story.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Until now, I didn't know it was that certain ex deputy. Yes, yes,
the story I've always heard. Well, I mean that's exactly
what i'd say too, if you wouldn't work or her.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, well, if you knew who it was, you would
got you would know well and and and everybody knew
this story, and I didn't for I think I think
it got told to me a year or in some
change after the Sheriff's office me working at the sheriff's office.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
It was just a hidden joke story, like I guess
behind my back and I didn't know, and I got
cornered one time by my patrol shift.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Dude, why do you have so much trash in your car? Line?

Speaker 5 (36:57):
What are you talking about? Like, I don't have any
trash in my car? And then the halts fell.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
More than likely the story started off with, don't tell savage,
but listen to this.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, Carlos clean, because it's all in the middle car.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, it's all hidden.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Maybe don't we have like a pre checklist or something
about checking it.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
I just put it on the trash shoot. I don't
talking about. Yeah, I never did.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Somebody not just shot out underneath the car. Yeah, I
didn't know. That's what it was for. That's why I
have an admin package. I can't hide my trash anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Well, and you know it's your coworker's responsibility to talk
about you behind your back.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Isn't that a requirement of the job? Worse than the
high school? Yeah, it really is. Yeah, And I mean
I'm sure if you were barefoot shoes around, people probably
talk about that too. Yep, they definitely talk about that
a lot. Uh.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
I am the only patrol deputy I think in Wise
County history that we're barefoot shoes on patrol. There is
a story behind that which is not necessarily funny. But
I got into barefoot shoes after a pretty catastrophic foot injury.
And when the new sheriff and new chief came in,

(38:15):
we all had our meetings with the with the sheriff
and the chief, and he asked me.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
It was like, hey, should I do a mandatory boot policy?

Speaker 5 (38:23):
And I'm like no. I was like, for the love
of God, no, You're like why not? And I took
off my barefoot shoe and I was like this is
what I wear and I crumpled it up into a
little ball.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And he just like like.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Stared into my soul a little bit and You're like,
why do you wear that? I was like, well, sir,
if I walk, if I have a patrol boot, I
will end up walking like an old man after about
a week because of the injury I had to my
foot and now having I still get made fun of

(38:55):
all the time because believe it or not, first time
ever wearing it. Your foot has to get strong. So
if I stepped on a rock, he'd put me down.
Like it's not it's not like a like battling a fence.
It's stepping out of your car hitting a rock.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
And oh so it's kind of like so you kind
of wear like moccasins, right, yeah, I guess you could
say moccasins.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Yes, they're just black. You can't really tell, not the
ones with the soules, the old yeah, the old moccasins.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yet you have no soul. Yeah, no, so that's why
he doesn't have it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
But but but feet got stronger, and uh, yeah, I'm
just that guy.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I'm I. I wear barefoot shoes. He's different. Barefoot shoes
and gas mask. No, I don't do the gas mask,
but I do wear bet for shoes. They're nice.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Yeah, Uh, they're comfey, like get your feet strong. But
and you know what what I found on patrol, it's
a very good conversation.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Start and say it's always good icebreaker.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Man.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Ye, people down, yeah, and they do.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
And I don't know why people look down, but they
look down at your feet and like are those barefoot shoes, like,
yes they are.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Okay, now that that would come in great.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Actually, if you're on the traffic stop, you're waiting for
confirmation on a warrant, you got someone outside the car,
and you're just sitting there twiddle in your thumbs, trying
to kill five minutes a time for dispatch to come back.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh yeah, people look at your like you look you
see them barefoot shoes like, I bet he has a cat.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I try to grow my hair up really long, you know, yeap.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
But oh it'd be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I wish I could do that, you would, now, No,
in patrol, you know, in law enforcement, you come across
You come across a lot of strange things. You find
a lot of stuff out there. Yeah, I mean you're
out there. In my case, I was. Whenever I was
in patrol, we had we're on twelve hour shifts. You
guys work twelve too, Yes, yep, okay, so you got

(40:40):
a lot of time out there. You you stumble across stuff,
You find stuff like LBJ six thirty five. When whenever
we'll be out there, I meantime, you make traffic stop,
you walk back to your car, you find stuff laying
around and I bring all this up because I actually
found a unique item here recently.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yes, I did, and recently you've been been away for
a year now, a as a retiree. I found Okay,
I found i'm.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
As an interesting item. But before we get to that,
I must ask you guys believe in aliens or martians?

Speaker 5 (41:18):
I do, Actually you do. I've seen a lot of
weird stuff in the skies that I cannot explain. Yeah,
and the problem is kind of fine, it's no good,
no good, no probing.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I lost my memory a few times. I don't. I don't,
but that's the only thing I remember, and.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You remember that you lost your memory. Well, and we've
had we've had previous guests on the show before.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
We believe.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
He was an officer in the colony that that wrecked
out one day and he said he saw something in
the sky and called it, you know, unidentified flying object,
and that's why he hit the curb. And that's actually
what he told uh accident investigator that actually had to
They actually brought in an actual accident investigator and had
him do the guy's state form or complete the crash report,

(42:06):
and he actually drew a little he had a little
UFO that he imported into the diagram and had it
on there. And then we've heard a story out of
the Northeast from another officer where a lady had a
martian in her house and she couldn't get rid of him,
and they they went and wrestled with this martian and
threw an upstairs window.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
So I remember that. Yeah, so I'm a believer.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
And and I say all that because as first responders,
and especially the first responder with the last name Savage,
you know, you run towards the danger, you know, you
don't you don't fear anything. So along that kind of lines,
we've got Karen here in the studio today. Karen, there's
there's something. There's something over there in the fridge. Few

(42:46):
you grab that for me.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Her contract says, we had to say the beautiful Karen.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, the beautiful Karen. Karen just means you bitches a lot.
So the beautiful, lovely Karen.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yes. So I want to I want the record to
show that I don't even know what this is. So
I'm kind of scared. Okay, wait for some alien hardware
to show up.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Okay, So what Karen's got here, She's got shot glasses
for everybody, And then we've got the mystery drink.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Are you ready? We've got Martian poop soda? Do this
all right? Show?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
On today's show, we're going to we'll give a rating
on this. We'll see what we feel about the Martian
poop soda. And for those not watching on YouTube, I
can tell you this. You know it's it's a pink
fluid and on the front it's got a pilot do
in screen, so it's green. Do you think anybody ever
had Martian poop soda before? Can be first and say

(43:49):
that I have not? That would actually be taller than
a mountain dew, wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
It a little play on words?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Then it's gonna be at first. So let's see if
they taste good.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Pour up everybody a glasses little Martian poop here, and
I will say we do. We do talk a lot
about poop here on the show, but this is the
first time I think we've covered Martian poop than Yeah.
I mean, at least it's not like the liquid was
not brown or anything, so yeah, I probably wouldn't drink it.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
If all right, guys, cheers, cheerers, your thoughts. It's like
a unicorn, like a corn. That's pretty good. Taste nothing
like poop. So kind of tastes like pepto. Business taste
nothing like poop. Have the taste of that.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Hold, how do you know what? It tastes? Nothing like poop.
I've never tasted. He was so fast, but that he's like,
nothing like poop. I've been there before. Boys, what we
do on squat? Helpable? Do at? Yeah? No, that was
that was refreshing, hydrating the whole thing. Absolutely. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I don't know about you guys, but I think I'm
I think I would I would purchase the Martian Poop again.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Oh absolutely, And I would drink it if it was
bought for me. Drink Chris enjoy the rest.

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Speaker 1 (46:49):
Chris, you're still fascinated with that bottles Marsham Martian poop.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Huh?

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Just seeing what you're making me drinks at Artificial so
good anak thumb.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Well, you guys just trusted me. I mean nobody, nobody
read the ingredients. You're like, no, I mean, oh, he
gave it to us a strap. It looked intriguing. I'll
give it that tarvery thing once a right. Welcome back, guys,
Welcome back to Offbeat the Light Side of law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
We got two guests joined us today. We've got Deputy.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Chris ratliv thanks for having me, and Deputy Carter Savage.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Good to be back. So all right, where are we at.

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the families of our falling police and.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Firefighters here here in the Dallas for Worth the area.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
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that we have recon you have the foundation, but I'm
glad the foundation exists. So if you feel so lad,
i'd invite you to make a donation to the RMS
Treehouse Listeners Foundation. Also check us out on Facebook and Instagram,
give us a like, a share, of follow, all that

(48:39):
kind of stuff. If you are watching the show on YouTube,
go ahead and smash that subscribe button there at the
top and give us thumbs up. I think I got
through all the business stuff Kerky did, but we need
to get more hips.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Steve.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
It's like, hey, bo, hit us up on insta, boss,
that's all you gotta says.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Also, oh wait, if you're an officer and you want
to come in studio, come tell your story on the show,
then send us an email. That's Offbeat Cop Show at
gmail dot com. Again, Offbeat Copshow at gmail dot com.
And let's get over to uh to Chris here. Chris,
you brought an interesting story today, and I think we

(49:18):
gould to close out the show with this one.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
This story is entitled how not to pay for drugs?
And we do we try to be an educational show,
absolutely so, Chris, if you could tell us how not
to pay for drugs? Sir, Yeah, don't buy drugs? That
was our public service. Thanks, that's coming next week. Say no,
it's been a good show. Guys here later. Don't buy drugs.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Drugs. Drugs are bad. Uh No.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Years ago, where I used to work at, you know,
crack okaine was a a big thing down there, and
it's super cheap.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Keep in mind it's extremely cheap, but uh and it's affordable.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, at least back till it was just
throwing it out there. So I got called to a
death call to go investigate it and then take the report.
So I she was always do go show up and
there's this lady that can't stop moving and so on.
So she's obviously under the influence of something or had
been for a really long time, and she wanted to
report some items of hers that were stolen. So she

(50:13):
goes to the story of telling me how she made
a deal with the guy for some drugs, and so
obviously I'm asking like, hey, yeah, so what's the deal
and why are you reporting your drugs stolen?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
That's illegal, but it's hers. She's like, it's mine.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
And then also she had her I don't know if
you want to her kitten stolen or prison wallet. However,
you want to call it. So the deal was, was
she do a sexual act with him and he would
give her crack cocaine. Uh, so he did these sexual act,
got up and just left and didn't give her anything.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
So she wanted to report that. So she she got screwed.
She she literally got screwed. Well, she was trading crack
for cracks.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
So yeah, so that was I mean she and you
have to be there, like you see me moving around,
but she could not stop moving and you know, scratching
her face and just you know people see movies and
so where you know the twitch. Yes, so, uh, she's
just telling me all about how she did this act
and he stole everything, stole her service, stole her cat,

(51:19):
and then stole her crack cocaine, and she wanted him
found injustice for everything and she wants her items back.
So you know, obviously told her that I was working
diligently on finding this guy and arresting him and getting
her IELs back.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
But as we all may know, it's.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
That if i'd have found him, I'd have got him
for theft of services and theft under a hundred.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
So I don't know, Yeah, I have to say it.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
He may she may owe him money.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Looking at her, I don't know, it's pretty desperate to
be going that direction with there, I promise you.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, so let that Let that be a lesson.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
You know, you don't don't report the theft of your
drugs or the theft of your pets.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Cats. No cats were harmed in the making of this film.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, see very educational show. So yeah, and another thing, Hey,
if you're gonna, if you're gonna bargain with somebody and
in order to get something, such is her case. Obviously
she gave a little of herself in order to seecure
an item, make sure that you work the deal where
you're you know, hey, here's the payment, but I want

(52:30):
the I want the item at the same time.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, at least get half of that was that was given.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
The information was provided to her for, you know, to
prevent herself to be and taken advantage of. Again, you know, hey,
get get your side of deal first when it's something
like this. Didn't provide him your service, but I can
see you there, you're in uniform. Here's my professional advice.
Next time when you do this, make sure that you
get the product before you render the service.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Well, you're dealing with the crack hackler. You gotta know,
be provactive a lot of the jobs about education, the
crack hackler. We got them boys.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
You hate to see that happen, all right, That's what
we got for today's show, right, Lift Savage. Thank you
both for coming on today, Thanks for having me absolutely guys,
until next time, keep it real, keep it funny, stay safe,
and watch each other six
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