August 6, 2025 • 55 mins
Unbelievable! Episode 63 is here, and it features Officer Rachel Roberts, former Officer Jeff Parkerson, and Lt. Phil Gingerella sharing stories about naked barebacking, a kangaroo traffic stop, and MORE!
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, The Light Side of Law Enforcement
ard the Treathhouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we've got helicopters, kangaroos,
naked people, necked people.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, that's not me. What Jeff's not me? Jeff's not
gonna be the neked person on the on the short day. Okay,
thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We don't want to. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And and who knows what else is gonna come up?
Steve here co host for today, Joe and Jackson. Hey, y'all,
we've got two guests joined us in studio. We've got
officer Rachel Roberts Hey, and we've got former officer turned
real estate mogul.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, but he works with Josh, so I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Jeff Parkinson's with us, Hello and joining us remotely from Charlestown,
Rhode Island. We've got Lieutenant Phil Gingerrella everybody. Hey, you
welcome guys. It's good to have you guys all with
us today.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I I do want to mention Joanne last on the
last show, I was kind of in the I had
the dilemma, do I get donkeys or not?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes? And they were beautiful and I had a surprise today.
You didn't even tell me.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, I now in the proud owner of multiple asses.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Two asses, and chicks.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How big I've got? I got a really big ass.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Like a normal size. Yes, ye normal, it's not big
gass and a baby.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Don't lead on that. You've seen my ass, both of them.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Jeff got here early. He saw my ass.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I saw them too, but they were big. From the peacock.
I saw the peacock today too.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I didn't want to see the sea word it sounded weird.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We do have a rooster out there.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I know we don't there to.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Found a home. Please tell me he found a home
and he's not dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The peacock got him.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's been it's been a tough week for me with
flying objects and or flying animals, whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I was not taking care of the donkeys. Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I saw the bushes. They needed to be trimmed along
the house. So I went to trim the bushes and
next thing, you know, how to pain in my left arm,
and here's the swelling from the walls.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh thank god. I thought you were going to say
the rooster was out there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I thought you chopped.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Became me a freaking hot attack.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I was going to say, you ate it, he's not
to eat it, no, And unfortunately it was just they
wasp stinging me on the arm and I didn't see it.
I started hopping up and down around the yard, and
you know, the yard's pretty big. The neighbor's quite a
way's way. But I could fill the neighbors staring at
his window at me, and I'm it looks like I'm
(03:15):
just having a fit in the yard. And I could
just tell the neighbor's probably looking at his wife.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like Chris Farley with bees.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I mean, I'm sure the neighbor was looking at his
wife as he's staring out staring out the window at
me and just saying, you know that boy ain't all right, mam.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, I was having issues.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
A new family's out of control.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But then the rooster, who was also out of control.
I went into check for eggs from the hens this week,
I got attacked by a rooster.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They're mean. And then the one of the ones we
had when I was a kid, I was responsible for
beating them and watering them and getting the eggs every day.
He was mean. He used to beat us, not out
of me and my dad finally had enough and I
don't know where he went.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, this thing, I mean, I would feed this bird
every day. I'm coming. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
We've all heard this.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, imagine imagine being in third grade and being probably
all of like forty five fifty pounds if that, and
you know, be an attacked by a rooster that's half
your size.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Didn't you get attack my goats? Or no? You turkey?
A turkey? Gotcha a turkey?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Turkey at my dad's house? Goats on an ambulance call
on the exeter yep?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Oh yeah, I had a ram, a ram come after me. Yeah, no, no, scary,
That's what happens when you live in the woods. Had
a cow come after me? Went out skydiving, I landed
in the field, it came running at me. Okay, animal
attack stories? Is that on the list?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We will get catch me. Yeah, you got an animal?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Animal attack stories, that's that's a fair game game.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We'll get to those.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But Rachel, you you are currently an officer Carr, I am,
and how long have you been in law enforcement?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Over fifteen years? So what all agencies have you worked for?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
I am a transplant I started my career late in life.
I had that epiphany once I divorced my heroin addict
fellon husband. I realized I could then be an officer.
I got maths stories. So I started off in New Hampshire.
But crazy story, I actually applied in Denton, Texas the
same time I applied in Rochester, New Hampshire. Oh wow,
(05:24):
in Rochester hired me firster first and that's where I'm from.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So I started my career there. I loved it. I
learned a lot, very busy.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Heavy heroine community, poverty, welfare. It's not the New Hampshire
of covered bridges and in pretty leaves right, It's it's
mass poverty and and drug abuse. So we don't have
a lot of middle class where I came from. It's
rich or poor. That's those are your options. And I
met my husband and I told my real one, not
(05:55):
that practice one, the first one.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, practice. I learned a lot that that t just
to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
When it happens, it happens.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I told him, hey, I hate the snow, I hate
the cold. I want to go south one day, and
he said, you tell me when twenty twelve, we had
a total of twenty eight feet of snow.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, babe, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Who's out there on the roof shovel in that snow
off so your roof doesn't collapse me, we need to
have a talk with your husband.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Oh well he was plowing.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh okay, yay, so that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah yeah, But what made you apply it Denton at
the same time?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, Like, how did you find Dbton of all places?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So kind of a weird story. I dated.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I was single for a long time after that practice marriage,
and I dated a guy on and off from Long
Island and he had family in Denton and he wanted
to move south someday. I wasn't moving to New York,
he wasn't moving into New Hampshire. So I'm like, well,
let's go visit. And we came down and let me
back it up. One of the first places I looked
at applying was Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I have a friend who worked in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Is crazy, yeah and uh, and so I went there
checked it out.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
But then when we went to Denton to go meet
some of his family and I looked around the area,
I'm like, man, this is beautiful, Like the houses are
super cheap.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That was back in six I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Was gonna say not anymore. It's packed here now.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, And there was just a lot to do as
people were super friendly. Everyone was pretty like did their
hair and their makeup. I'm like, wow, I'm going to
be so ugly d right.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Finally someone who understands what I walked into from rd
Island because Rhode Island women are totally New England women
in general, totally different than Texas women. And it was
a huge culture shop.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, we don't carry purses up there. We carry pocket books.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, my pocket book, my pocket my pocketbook.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, does anyone know that?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Okay, thank you, I'm glad you know. No one else
seems to know what I talk about. So I think
I'm talking about a book.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I applied it both.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I applied down here, applied up there, and Rochester hired me.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I stayed.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
And when I came back down, I did look at Denton,
but I also looked at Arizona. I looked at a
few different places to figure out where I wanted to live.
And on the map, Denton County, Texas and Maricopa County
or my top two. And I wasn't sure where we're
(08:09):
going to go, and my husband and I. Our first
visit was down here. He's like, no, I want to
move here. I said, okay, Well, I got to figure
out how to become a cop here. So I started
the process on my own with Tea Cole from New
Hampshire and ended up becoming certified before I even got
a job here. And I didn't really know where to go. Wow,
So I went to a smaller agency that will remain nameless,
(08:32):
and at first I really liked it. So I did
get hired at a smaller agency. I came down. My
husband is in construction, so he makes the big bucks,
and I loved it. They had their cars, had digital
like video it would automatically upload. We still had CDs
in New Hampshire, like. It was amazing the technology.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And I worked. We had cassette tapes, we had the
Jumbo ones before.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We Hell, do you have floppy disk?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Floppy disks? Yeah? Fluppy disk yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Probably probably.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
So I came from a high violent crime area full
of drugs. Get thirty eight bars in the middle of downtown. Yeah,
and we'd at any given day we'd have three to
six people work in a shift with forty six thousand people.
So I come down here to this little town, this
little tiny place where there's thirty twenty eight officers total, three.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Current. Yeah, and I did not know. You know, I'm
the first, I'll say, I'm the last to know.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Up north, we have a lot of rules about tickets
and citations to make. We can't write a bunch of
tickets and the PD gets a budget for it. Apparently
in Texas they don't have any of those constraints. So
there are some ticket centric agencies where they depend on
that income in order to have a budget. And I
(10:01):
was not aware of that because I would have never
left Corporate America to be a tax collector. Yes, And
when I found out that was my new job in Texas,
I'm like, yeah, I don't this ain't gonna work. So
I looked around some more and I found Lewisville is
my home. And I am not here as an official
agent for Louisville or speaking on their behalf. But in menytime,
I can tell someone how great it is to work
(10:22):
there and how much joy I have from being there,
making it my home.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like I want to be that person to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So I know I know a few people that might
be local to where we're sitting right now that have
since been hired on Lewisville here just recently.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh awesome, So did you get a new job? Me? Yeah, no,
want and done so far.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm well, I say I'm failing at retirement, but I
am enjoying it. I'm enjoying my failure.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think you enjoy your failure much more than you
enjoyed work.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I enjoyed it again. Hey, let's throw out the disclosure.
I'm glad I had the opportunity to serve.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh yeah, no, I mean you loved your job and
doing what you do.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But I mean, like I could have used five more
people helping me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, but I mean you loved your job, but this
is this is a whole different aspect.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Now, Jeff, you are a former officer. Wait where ell
did you work?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I started as a reserve officer in Irving in two
thousand and then I went to the Colony.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I worked there a few years. I worked with Josh
Jackson there.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And then I went to Lewisville for a few years,
and then I was a air marshall for a few years.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh that's cool, so very nice. And Jeff, you've actually
been on the show before. I have.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, so that's why you're on the end.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
He was on the end and the first time. Oh
well you already have camera blocked? Is camera camera like
right there, just like me?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And again and Phil you are lieutenant there in Charlestown.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Correct, Yes, you feel bad for me.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I do.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That's why I have a fidget.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Spinner too, loud.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
End of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Now, Phil, how long have you been in law enforcement?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I've been in public safety a long time. Since nineteen ninety.
I starred as a fourteen year old junior member of
the Westerly of.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Wolfscore, which is Joeann knows where Westerly is in Charles Town.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And that's when I met Philip, when he was just
a wee lad we lad.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
I became a reserve of the town. I'm one, I'm done.
I haven't left southern New England or southern Rhode Island. Really,
I'm never going to leave some of Rhode Island. So
to hear the stories of you moving all over the
country freaks me out. I need to spend my fidget
spinner more. But to mike my current department, I've been
here since ninety six reserve officer, then dispatcher, then you know,
(12:53):
full time officer, sergeant and lieutenant. There I am a
career stepped out. The only thing about me the chief.
So we'll see, you know, I'm hoping for that in
the next couple of years. It'd be nice to finish
out my career at that level. And that's, uh, that's
my plan right now. So that's where I am.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And Phil, I want to start with you when when
it comes to you stories on today's show, you and
I had the chance to speak this week and you
told me about a couple of stories you intended to share,
and there was one story that really got my attention
because it had so many elements in it and you
you told me about his story involved a faarback writing
(13:36):
man into a bar u. Yeah, he gives a whole
different context of.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's Is that a Texas story or a renowned story
that was more Texas than Allan because born and raised,
I have never never experienced that.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
You would think so, so definitely would have more memorials. Yeah, definitely.
One of my more memorable, uh experiences. When you hear
on the radio, you know, naked man has rode a
horse into a bar.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Do you believe it or not?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Sounds like a joke.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It just sounds like a joke. You know.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I think there's a lot of memorable calls that you
hear on the radio and you or calls you hear
on the radio and you look at the radio and go,
there's no way that that's going to be what they
just dispatched me too. And you know, I'm sure everyone
can agree with that, there's no way this is this
call I've been dispatched to as possible. And then you
get there and it's like, holy crap, this call is real.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Especially making it up. We've got like one bar in Charlestown.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Which bar was a Joanne. Here's a trivia question. Guess
the bar that the horse naked horse guy rode into.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, it's either the gang plank or General Stanton.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Second one, General stan shu?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
General? How can you ride a horse into? General Stanton?
Just so low?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
But what are the big horses? The Butdweiser horses? What
are they call? Yeah, that's what he had?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What so this guy?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You actually had someone riding a Clydesdale naked into a bar?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, okay, yes, for context, General Stanton was built in
the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Ha.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
It's one of the oldest bars in the country. I
think you had George Washington lived there or stayed there.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, is this place for people to ride their horses
into this bar.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So this year, this gentleman has been a pain in
our butt for he's one of our career Uh you know,
you know, not criminals, but career.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
What would you say?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Yeah, every day you know, so yes, yes, and he's
been a pain. He well this is you know, while
going back. But he was a pain with that horse.
He was all over the place. He tried to get
into the Memorial Day parade with it one year, Joanne,
he rode it into the middle of the parade.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
So to hear the name of the person that we
were responding to made the call more believable. That that
that's that that actually may be true when we get there.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So it was. So he had extricated himself in the
bar and took off when he saw us. Uh. And
of course, being younger and more aggressive, what did I do?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You chased him him?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Right?
Speaker 7 (16:10):
I don't think I would do that again today at
my level of career.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well wait, wait, wait, did did he leave on the
horse or did he run?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Now he galloped away on the horse towards Route one.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And you you were in your Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
There was a couple of us. And now we're on
Route one. Joanne, you can tell him what Root one's like, right,
it's pretty pretty significant Fall Lane highway.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
In the summer, it's jam packed. In the winter, it's
nice and empty the way we like it.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Yes, And now we're on the highway, and now we
are blocking of traffic while we chased him down the
highway on the horse. Oh, it gets better because we
had just gotten tasers. So this is right around the
time where tasers had just come into play. Right, So
he turns and comes after us at the horse. We're
now out of our cars.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So what do we do?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
What do I have the distinction of being one of
the first officers in the country to do taste the horse?
The tas the horse. Then, let me tell you it
does not work. Anybody is anybody's thinking they want to
use their taser on a horse.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
It does not work. It just pisses the horse off.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So it's not like so he fell off the.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Horse and now the horse is bucking being tased. Top
of him and we're yelling shut off the tasers, off
the tasers, and we were able to take him and
take him into custody.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So, yeah, we have this video of it.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
I actually have a video of it somewhere and have
to I have to have to dig it out, but yeah, there.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is a video of it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I definitely need to see that. I think I remember
that story.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That was pretty It was a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
It was a while ago, but it was. It got
some attention from the local press.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
And uh so my recommendation anybody out there listening, this
is Phil's recommendation one A one up today.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Don't tase a horse.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Doesn't nipisale.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And again I go back to we always pass out
beneficial information.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's a learning.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Do not taste a horse.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Do not. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But the tasers.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
We have new tasers now like mine shoots four probes.
What Yeah, where are you guys been?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, retired, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Law enforcement adjacent.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So yeah, so don't taste a horse.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah. The only thing he wasn't where it was a
cowboy hat?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So was the horse have a saddle?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Have to tell me who this was because I'm curious
now I think I know, but you're gonna have to
tell me.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I'll tell you as it was.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That makes sense now, that makes total sense.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
So he wasn't technically fair back he was just naked.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's right. He was naked, wasn't he.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, wait, who were the rest of the people on
the road doing as you're chasing this horse down the
highway with anicked guy?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Days before cell cameras, so we would everyone would have
their phone out right recording this as it happened.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But uh, yeah, no, So that was when people actually
watched and looked at things and actually took in the
data through their eyes and not.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Through their cell phones.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So he was galloping away.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I'm trying to picture physically how that's even possible.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm trying not to, like, I can see the horse.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You don't want me to send you the video. You
don't want the video?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I do want the video.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'll send it to Joanne afterwards.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
When Steve and I talked a couple of days ago,
I'm surprised that this isn't more of a common.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Occurrence, especially down in the South.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
So apparently not we got people. There's a guy there's
a couple of guys that take their horses into bars,
like in Fort Worth, and I think there's been one
in Dallas. But they're very respectful and the law actually allows,
if I remember correctly, for horses and bars in certain
cities and counties. So and they're always dressed like cowboys.
Everyone has their clothes on. The horses well behaved.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I had a naked incident and what wasn't with a horse.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
But when they were in the drive through at Waterbury,
the guys in the car there the other guy to
take off his clothes and get out of the car,
and he did and they locked the door, run and
hide in the bushes.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
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Speaker 9 (20:18):
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And we're back back to more Offbeat the Lights side
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Juanne Jackson, Hey, y'all, and joining us in studio. We've
got Officer Rachel Roberts, and we've got former officer Jeff Parkerson. Hello,
and we've got one guest joined us remotely from Charlestown
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I you know we got to let our listeners in
on this.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Bray.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
We heard all sorts of all sorts of funny stuff. So, uh,
you know what, Phil, Let's just go straight over to you, sir.
I understand you've got a story involving a helicopter.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
I mean, I've been trying to stick to the Texas
theme in New England, so you know, I figured I'd
just stay with that and give you another Texas team
call from from New England.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
How's that sounds great? So, like I said, uh, in
my last.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Story, you sometimes you get those calls on the radio
where it's like this just can't be true.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Wellhy would?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Why is dispatch sending me to a residential neighborhood for
a helicopter with guys hanging out.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Of his guns shooting down into the neighborhood? Right? So yeah,
crazy joint.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
So you get there, if you get there to talk
to the you talk to the complainant, who's adamant that
he saw a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Do I have a do I what do they call
it down there?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
We call it psychs or psychological calls up here, and
I don't know what metal. So you know, it's like,
is this a psych call? Is this guy really crazy?
Is what's going on here? So to make him feel good,
I figured, all right, I'll take a walk into the woods.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Just to see. Now, I'll go take a walk strough
and to see if I see the helicopter that you're
that you're private.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know that helicopter and.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
The helicopter, so I know.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I walked into the woods, probably about a half a mile,
and I can to an opening. And as I came
to the opening, I felt like I was in an
episode of the eighteen. Here is a Robertson helicopter flying
come flying up out of the woods. Three guys hanging
out of it with rifles, and they're firing down a
junk car. That's that's in the woods.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
I just started just yelling on the radio I got
after in the woods firing down on me. So the names,
give the names afterwards, you'll you'll know all of the
names of those idiots involved in that in that call,
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Steves go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, I mean so many questions gonna mind. First off,
I'm in all of your officer presence. Intead you handed
a helicopter to land lay you out of the sky
right now, land later aircraft right now? Yes, like you
can chase that. Yeah, you know I would have been
like that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We don't have helicopters. We place have a helicopter. We
don't have helicopters in island.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Nobody has no no official public state helicopters.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
That made the medical air helicopters.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, but they're not.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So yeah. So this is local, good old boys.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
They had a buddy who could have a buddy with
a helicopter like that helicopter.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
What are you gonna Let's let's go fly around the
helicopter and start blowing our rounds off at a.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Junk car that we know what. That's like a good.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Idea East Texas stuff there. Yeah, yes, business that Texas call.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
So here's the bottom line is, after the.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
After was involved, after the Governor's office with involved state
police and everybody, we found.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Out there were very very few, if anything, that work violating.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Really really so they don't.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
From the house.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
From the house.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Yeah, the only thing that happened to the guy. He
had ninety days suspension on his f A license or
some minor violations that some blinder violation on the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That'll still stay.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I think it was a national story. It was a
national story. It was it was everywhere. Uh it was.
It was an f A A magazines.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Wow, you know for all sorts of things that that
that people realized that there was no criminal but there
was no criminal violations.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I could.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I can see the headline Officer orders helicopter land. Yeah yeah,
but Jeff, I do need to go read jet Jeff,
you fly as well, you flew but.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Over the cuckoo. Yeah. Yeah, many times.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I have faith that you you shall someday fly again.
Maybe well, I mean being a real estate mog. No,
maybe college maybe could get us an aircraft and you know.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Take us all to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
No. No, people take a shooting.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Island Brandy culture. She has a she does both hawk
hunting and h sky David see.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It was popular island before it was Copula.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Anywhere else with hers, I'm in Yeah, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So just like for people who don't know Rhode Island,
Phil give us some demographics on Charlestown. So people get like,
why this is crazy?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean Charles Town is the Rhode Island is
the most densely populated state by square by.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Square footage of it.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, I was gonna say it's so small.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They measured square footage.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
You know, population wise square footage. It's the most populated
state in the in the country. So you know there's
a million people in a small state, rhighte Island. So yeah,
I mean to have something like this is not like
the probably Eastern Texas or something like that.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
This is this is a residential residential areas that this
was happening.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And Charles Town, I mean, used to have a population
of what forty in the winter.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
That that's the summer population. It's about ten to fifteen
in the summer the winter.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
So that's why this is crazy because there's like nobody
there in the in the winter.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Right now, I've got fit.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
I have a major festival going on this weekend to
see food festival. I got fifty thousand people in town.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I have two officers on.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
We need the helicopter friends so we can go join in.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, we need the helicopters.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, well right, you've been in law enforcement for quite
some time. You've shared some some idled some stories with me,
and you've got a very diverse selection of stories here,
I mean anything from Kangaruo and coming to America.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Yeah, it's hard to figure out where to begin, because
I've got really good retention recall, so i have a
lot of good stories to tell. People are always amazing,
and I'm like, I think everyone has good stories. They
just forgot that's it, or they just think it's normal
part of life and they don't they don't share, So.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
There's normal, no normal part of life.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
There is no normal course. Well, yeah, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I thought Phil was only.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Going to tell naked stories and I was waiting for
the naked helicopter pilot and.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Fully clothes.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Man. Well, because bullets.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm gonna blame you.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Probably I'll blame you for bringing up the naked people.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
But I have a whole tactic I use when I
run into naked people in law enforcement. So, uh, for
the most people watching this, everyone's aware that we deal
with the naked people, right is everyone aware that the
female and scene always for some reason gets to be
the one that goes hands on it and it is
always that way. I'm not afraid of the naked man.
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So I would say the last naked man I dealt with,
But I just dealt with one two weeks ago, So
not that guy. He was just walking around with the
Bible looking for something close close. Uh no, he said
he didn't have time to get them. Oh well he was.
He was that much of ours searching, sir.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I've never been in such a rush. I didn't have
time to.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And it really sucks moving from no cameras in law
enforcement to having the body cam. Because I almost yelled
out at my fellow officer that was a crap search
on that guy. Miss you missed parts. And then I
realized this is all on video. I probably shouldn't say
the chall the pockets. Yeah, but the last.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Naked pursues the pocketbooks.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So the last prison.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
The last naked person before him, was running up and
down on twenty one Business, which is a fairly heavily traffic.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
There's a lot of traffic in that area.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
We had probably nineteen twenty people call in about the
naked man running up and down the road. I had
a fellow officer with me that has well, he had
three or four years on when we had this call,
and we find the naked man later on the night
and he's naked. So this is my tactic I taught
the new the younger officer. Whenever I run into those
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naked people, I asked them, if they're able to communicate,
do you know you're naked? Seems silly, right, but their
answer can change what we're gonna do. Oh so if
they say no, then we go in one direction. They
say yes, Now we have a couple other options. Do
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you want to be naked?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I never thought of it like that.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Yes, So now there's another tree we can another fork
in the road we can decide on. So this naked man,
I asked him, ifeen he was naked? He said yes, Okay,
do you want to be naked? He said no, Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Phil about your naked horseback guy, how you got him
in the car and what.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You put on him?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Because I've dealt with so many I have extra large
garbage bags at all.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We keep scrubs, scrubs, medical scrubs.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah you're fancy. Yeah, we're not that fancy.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
We got a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah, whatever, or so I cut up, you know, I
cut the bag into like a little dress for this
guy and he wears it and the other officer A
long story short, this guy was the normal person. He
was not the type of person you think he'd be
being naked out in public. He actually got lost in
a heavily wooded area and one hundred and nine degrees
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for three days.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
And during that time, he had stepped in a puddle
that ended up being about five feet deep, and his
clothes got wet and as he was walking, he started
to get chafed, so he took off his clothes to dry,
and then he got confused about where his clothes went,
and then we finally found the roadway that he would
that we were called in about. When we were trying
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to make contact with me, kepvin running and like jumping
and diving off into the water and he had thought
that alligators were trying to attack him.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh, he was definitely altered.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah, his dehydration level and uh, you know, not having
food for three days really affected him.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Wow. Medical, Yeah, it was a medical call. Yeah. I
don't know if you've ever been dehydrated like heavily.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I used to do competitive bodybuilding and you can't even
remember how to tie your shoe. Yeah, so it was
amazing seeing him get water and food and become like
a totally regular, normal person.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And then they're totally embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah yeah, but he looked good. So I mean that's
another thing we never find in law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
But that is true.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Any time I come across the neked person. But they
gotta start medics obviously.
Speaker 11 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Usually usually there's something up.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
My only ned story really is, you know, it's a
good morning. When I was a reserve and irving, we
get a call for a naked person, a hot tub
and airy unit available shows ups.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, until it turns out there, but it's never something
you want to see. I mean I've seen one one
female naked that was like oh wow. But in general,
these it's not good.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's not it's it's not TV. You don't get Yeah.
So so that's my tactic.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I'm glad I passed it on to other officers because
apparently it's it's difficult to come up with a conversation
with the naked person, but you got to figure out
where they're at, like of course, especially where we're dealing
with mental illness or maybe even some.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Sort of psychosist from drugs.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
They fight harder and stronger, so you got to try
to feel it.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Out a little.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You think outside the box too when you're coming up
with solutions for these Thanks. Now you are a part
of the Louisville Police Foundations.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah so uh.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
A couple of years ago we realized that Lewis WOE
is one of the only agencies without an association, a foundation,
or any way that if we lost off start the
line of duty, we have no way to receive funds
for them. We have no way to money in and
give money out for people in those situations.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I feel like the ATO, the Dallas ATO.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
The officer.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh yeah, yes, I thought that makes so. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
We we developed it, started it, we got it funded.
I'm the I was the original director and founder and
now I'm the vice president, and we do a couple
of things. We uh support the memory of officers lost
one of duty and the memory of people from the
from Lewisville Police Department that have passed on. We have
funds to help ill, injured or sick employees. It is
(37:38):
not for officers sworn only it's for everyone. We do
camaraderie and UH morale boosting activities. We sponsor five k's
and events. Our our we was full Pollice soccer team
played in Garland a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yell our show will come down.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Our assistant chief J Powell passed away at the young
age of fifty two outside of work at home. It
was devastating to us as an agency. And uh, his.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Wife he was lieutenant when I was there. His his
widows and big support.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
She's actually part of our our group that is developing
this car show we're doing in October.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
So we're doing the J.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Powell Memorial Car Show and uh the car shows to
raise more funds for our group. We do pretty good.
I read a lot of grants. Uh, I'm not real
good at begging for money.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
But that's that's a tough one. But if if someone
wanted to learn more, were do you have a website?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
We do have a website. It's very nice, very nice.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
It is Lewisville, p as in Paul f as in
Frank dot org and you can see what we're up to,
what we're doing, the good that we're creating, and it's
it's a really really good thing. We're heavily supported by
city admin and city in our internal police admin.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
So it's nice to have that.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
You know, we don't we don't have any collective bargaining,
We don't have any anything like that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It's all just positive benevolence stuff for the for Yankees.
Louisville's L. E. W. Nutt. Yeah, l E. W. I s.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Give us that full address again web dress.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Is Louisville PF dot org, Louisville Paul Frank dot org.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
All right, guys, check it out.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Find out more information on the foundation there at Lewisville PD.
Now that being said, Rachel, you I've got to know
more about this story. You you mentioned something about kangaroos.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Oh yeah, okay, so this is a weird and it's
strange you have three Yankees in the show at once.
But so we don't have a lot of kangaroos in
New Hampshire at a zoom maybe maybe not a.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Lot of wild kangaroos helping around New Hampshire.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
No, no, And in our a c O s up there,
we're only the state and the municipalities are only allowed
to deal with dogs and cattle like if there's a
loose cat or a raccoon in your attic, Like, that's
not the responsibility of law enforcement or animal control.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Which was an a wake up call for me coming
to Texas.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
And I got some stories abouts and spiders and yeah,
and they call us like naima one.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yes there's isn't there businesses to take care of that?
Speaker 5 (40:12):
But anyway, okay, so the case rip so uh not
a real good traffic cop.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
I'm going to be real, I kind of suck at it. Uh.
I feel bad for everyone.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
I want to give everyone warning so they have an
opportunity to correct their behavior.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Well, what I didn't realize is coming to Texas, I'm
never going to see that person again. You pull over
a different person every time. It's a big state, it's
a lot of people. So I've got a plan. These
are the people that get tickets for these specific unsafe actions,
and these people, I think we can discuss it when
I when I meet them, right, try to be real fair.
So I see this, this rocket is going fast and
(40:49):
it it completely did not stop at the stop signed.
I didn't even see them turn their head to look
to see if anyone was coming. They're getting a ticketicket.
They just started a ticket till I walked up and
asked I did not do the seven step by later,
which is the kass thing, I guess, And I asked them,
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is that a kangaroo in your lap?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
What is the kangaroo driving?
Speaker 5 (41:16):
No, it was a baby, a little tiny baby kangaroo
sitting in like.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
A packet book, a packet book and a packet on
their lap.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
And now I'm torn because if I write a ticket,
they might not let me pet the kangaroo, so I.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Need pets the kangaroo first. Yeah, that's kind of the deal.
I drug like. You could have just been like, hey,
I'm gonna just the car lead a kangaroo in the.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Car, you give me the kangaroo and the kangaroo over. Yeah,
is that a kangaroo in your pocket book? It was
so cool they did let me pet it. I did
not write them the citation. The kangaroo was distracting the driver.
That is why they kangaroo.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
And a long time ago, when I start of my career,
I made the decision that anybody that makes me laugh
on a traffic stop, they're going to have to get
a warning, because I don't not. I do not want
that in court. I did not want to see me
over there, you know, slapping money and spinning around to
be in silly.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
So uh but how cool would that have been?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You go to city court, unicipal court if you should
have a citation for running the stops, you know, and
then you ob sir, what's your belief why this person
was distracted they had a kangaroo?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I mean could feel like, yeah, okay, that'd be like
like the person if you gave them a ticket contesting
the ticket I was, I was distracted by my kangaroo.
Yeah what is that?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Or and then I.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Was playing with my kangaroo and.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, on the on the ticket writers, you can snap
a picture, so like I could have potentially like put
that picture on the ticket, but I did not write
the ticket.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Any explanation why they had a kangaroo.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not diamond them out. But Sharkarosa
they're they're not a zoo. They're more of a rescue
here in North Texas. Again, they do great things. They
take real good care of their animals. They even drive
them around on their lap apparently. So that was how
I found out about that location, which was kind of
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cool because I'm not familiar with a lot of things
here from Texas. And I do have to add, just
in case you guys didn't have the experience, I got
to go seek Tiger King Joe before it was shut down,
before it was a Netflix show. Okay, So I'm very
interested in animals because we don't have the same level
of allowing you to touch animals in New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So, yeah, there's out in terrible. There's a rescue that
a nurse I worked with for years was right by
her house and we went over and looked at all
the big cats and stuff. Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
From the show. Was it a Tiger King or whatever?
He was the chief of police. Yep.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
In the town, well the town, the town is underwater. No,
it's the town that's underwater. It's a very tiny town.
It's it's in the middle of Louisville Lake.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I thought it was still there.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I thought it was like it's underwater.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's still there. It's just got a little water.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
On top of it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Shadow because he crashed his truck into the bridge apartment
on Lewisville Lake. Yeah, years ago, went viewish.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Yeah, I used to I used to always get these
old guys and would tell us that he used to
be a police officer.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
The town that's underwater now so weird.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
That's so weird, Like you just have to lose everything.
He was like a twenty something ye yeah, yeah, well
back in the day there was nothing up here.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, so Rachel, any any other traffic stops about the
animals like that?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Oh you know what, I'm like just thinking back on
this career and you know, being in different states and
learning so many different things, like oh, when I moved here,
the driving, I did not realize it was going to
be like every single day.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's a video game, it is, and it's worse now
than it was when you moved here.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
It's a lot and when I moved here, and it's
not like a regular video game. It's a cross between
Mario Kart and Destruction Derby.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, some Grand Theft Auto when they're too because you've
got the fights, you've got the shootings, you've got people
running people off the road. So it's kind of it's
a good mixture.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Yes, So oh, I gotta I gotta like tell you
about the driving part, because what blew my mind is
there's very few things you can go to the jail
for up where I'm from. Like, you cannot go to
the jail for really for not paying your parking ticket, right,
which is you can here, or you turn signal or whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Nothing. None of that's criminal.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
But if you drive without a license, like not having
an issued license, that is to a criminal offense.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
And we take you to jail.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
And then when I came here and I found out,
we pull them over, Oh you don't have a license,
You write them a ticket, and then you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Wait because they drive off.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Still with no license? H blew my mind?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, but you know the one that got Texas. So
if if everybody drives defensively, nobody wins.
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Welcome back, Welcome back to more offbeat, the light side
of law Enforcement. We're joined with three guests today. We've
got two guests in studio with us. We've got officer
Rachel Roberts.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
We've got former officer turned real estate mogul Jeff Parkerson.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Soon to get a helicopter?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Soon to get a helicopter? Yes, we can find one.
It's in the impound and joining us remotely from Charlestown,
Rhode Island. We've got Lieutenant Phil Gingerella. Now, if you've
not checked out the website yet, give it a look. Guys,
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(48:04):
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Speaker 3 (48:05):
That's a cop phone? Is that the batphone?
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah? Hung up?
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And going back to last week's episode, we heard a
story about a little person. We did, and ironically enough,
Jeff shows up today.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
And he says, I'm not a little person.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
And you're not naked either, but you have seen my ass.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I've seen both of them. You you told me.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
That you have a story about a little person.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
I do.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
So.
Speaker 6 (49:50):
When I worked in the colony, we did our own
Well this is years ago, so they've grown.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
They're a big city now, they're not a little person anymore.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
But well back then, just you said, yes, Uh, so
back then we had a book in our own. Uh
folks in the jail, so we had this camera system
and it only would go down so low. So the
lieutenant is trying to so taking a picture of the
person who's you're booking them in.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, and it's not like an.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
So you're trying to lower it, and so this person
is so tiny that we can't get him in the shot.
So we so we put a chair over there and
he stands on the chair. We still can't get him
in the shot. So then we have to put a
block on the chair. And so now we got him
in the shot. And then he gets bonded out and everything,
and so we got all that done. He pays his
(50:43):
fine whatever it was. I don't remember what it was,
too long ago. Anyway, as we're walking out, the lieutenant's
with us and there's a receipt on the ground from
McDonald's and she picks it up and she's like, small fry,
is this yours? But he had a he had a
(51:05):
great sense of humor. He just laughed at He's.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Like, no, that was not that's funny. That's funny. I
was laughing last week because it brought up a memory
for me. As a kid, my little brother and sister
and I used to wrestle, because back in the eighties,
wrestling was really popular, and my little brother used to
cheap by wrapping his arms around my legs and you
know how behind your knee is ticklish, and which I
would just end up rolling on the ground. Laughing because
(51:28):
it tickled so bad. And then my sister would pile
on top of him, pick him up and spin him
around and toss him, you know, and it just it
just brought back that really great memory that I hadn't
thought about in years, and you.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Were just envisioning that that suspect it was.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Tickle in the back of the officer's legs. That's all
I could think of, because it was so ticklish when
I was a kid that, you know, it was tickling
the back of his knees. As this little person's got
him by the knees.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
He was kind of describing that. Yeah, so he's got
his legs wrapped up and trying to.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Figure out what to do.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
Is it mac?
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Is it McDonald's or McDonald's, McDonald's, m McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
You said McDonald's, McDonald's, McDonald's. That's we're in Texas.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
We had old McDonald had a farm guy too.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
We got caused, Ok, we got cause Oh what's cause cars? Cause?
Cause that's what you're saying, like Ceo Z not Carr. Hey, Phil,
what do you where do you get water from?
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Bubblauba?
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Where the hell are you from?
Speaker 6 (52:36):
Well, there's there's a whole lot of words we would
say in like East Texas that they don't even say here.
So so like where well, uh well my favorite word
is dern but uh.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Instead of darn. But uh.
Speaker 6 (52:48):
But I met at East text the other day. I so,
what do you what do you call salmon? You call
it salmon or salmon?
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Is salmon? Was like, yeah, exactly, there's an L in
it salmon. I don't do that.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
When when I was when I lived in l A,
when I was an air marsh out there, I lived
off of Veda. Who are what Veda? Everybody else called
it so pulvida. I called it Veda. So we have
our words.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
I don't know, I just reckoning out yonder.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
They talk different, like that that road chaha is it chaha?
That's in like Rolette Royce, Rowette Garland. I don't know,
I can't pronounce it.
Speaker 6 (53:31):
Yeah, Bear Texas with the excellent Yeah everything down there,
like my Bernie and all of them.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Okay, Yeah, the world's messed up. Guys.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
They they didn't ask us when they started pronouncing these things,
so we could have saved a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
They just asked us to say.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Was that a pecan form on the way here. No, no,
what about that fruit loop bird? What's that thing called.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Bird? That's it? What do you call it? I mean,
is that what you guys call that too? You guys,
I'm one of you guys.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Now, at least you don't have to pronounce quantic.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
No, but I still have to say and route even
though it's like the most mispronounced word route. No, it's
en route every movie ever, from every military movie.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Ever root on route, but he starts with an E.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
So we had uh Rick from New York and why
pd and he always yeah, it was always tree.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
What three was tree?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Tree?
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Yeah, we've got another guest I think you should bring
on here. But they do that in the in the world.
Three is actually tree?
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Okay again, see very educational show. And remember, guys, we're
coming to the end of the show here. If you
if you haven't learned anything else from today's episode, what
don't tase a horse, especially especially Clydesdale. All right, guys,
that's it for today's show. Rachel, Jeff, Phil, this is
(55:16):
a pleasure of having you guys all on.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, guys, until next time, keep it real, keep
it funny. Stay safe and watch each other six
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, The Light Side of Law Enforcement
ard the Treathhouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we've got helicopters, kangaroos,
naked people, necked people.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, that's not me. What Jeff's not me? Jeff's not
gonna be the neked person on the on the short day. Okay,
thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
We don't want to. Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And and who knows what else is gonna come up?
Steve here co host for today, Joe and Jackson. Hey, y'all,
we've got two guests joined us in studio. We've got
officer Rachel Roberts Hey, and we've got former officer turned
real estate mogul.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, but he works with Josh, so I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Jeff Parkinson's with us, Hello and joining us remotely from Charlestown,
Rhode Island. We've got Lieutenant Phil Gingerrella everybody. Hey, you
welcome guys. It's good to have you guys all with
us today.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I I do want to mention Joanne last on the
last show, I was kind of in the I had
the dilemma, do I get donkeys or not?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yes? And they were beautiful and I had a surprise today.
You didn't even tell me.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, I now in the proud owner of multiple asses.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Two asses, and chicks.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How big I've got? I got a really big ass.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Like a normal size. Yes, ye normal, it's not big
gass and a baby.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Don't lead on that. You've seen my ass, both of them.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Jeff got here early. He saw my ass.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I saw them too, but they were big. From the peacock.
I saw the peacock today too.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I didn't want to see the sea word it sounded weird.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We do have a rooster out there.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I know we don't there to.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Found a home. Please tell me he found a home
and he's not dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The peacock got him.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's been it's been a tough week for me with
flying objects and or flying animals, whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I was not taking care of the donkeys. Yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I saw the bushes. They needed to be trimmed along
the house. So I went to trim the bushes and
next thing, you know, how to pain in my left arm,
and here's the swelling from the walls.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh thank god. I thought you were going to say
the rooster was out there.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I thought you chopped.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Became me a freaking hot attack.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I was going to say, you ate it, he's not
to eat it, no, And unfortunately it was just they
wasp stinging me on the arm and I didn't see it.
I started hopping up and down around the yard, and
you know, the yard's pretty big. The neighbor's quite a
way's way. But I could fill the neighbors staring at
his window at me, and I'm it looks like I'm
(03:15):
just having a fit in the yard. And I could
just tell the neighbor's probably looking at his wife.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like Chris Farley with bees.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I mean, I'm sure the neighbor was looking at his
wife as he's staring out staring out the window at
me and just saying, you know that boy ain't all right, mam.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, I was having issues.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
A new family's out of control.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But then the rooster, who was also out of control.
I went into check for eggs from the hens this week,
I got attacked by a rooster.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They're mean. And then the one of the ones we
had when I was a kid, I was responsible for
beating them and watering them and getting the eggs every day.
He was mean. He used to beat us, not out
of me and my dad finally had enough and I
don't know where he went.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, this thing, I mean, I would feed this bird
every day. I'm coming. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
We've all heard this.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, imagine imagine being in third grade and being probably
all of like forty five fifty pounds if that, and
you know, be an attacked by a rooster that's half
your size.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Didn't you get attack my goats? Or no? You turkey?
A turkey? Gotcha a turkey?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Turkey at my dad's house? Goats on an ambulance call
on the exeter yep?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Oh yeah, I had a ram, a ram come after me. Yeah, no, no, scary,
That's what happens when you live in the woods. Had
a cow come after me? Went out skydiving, I landed
in the field, it came running at me. Okay, animal
attack stories? Is that on the list?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We will get catch me. Yeah, you got an animal?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Animal attack stories, that's that's a fair game game.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We'll get to those.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But Rachel, you you are currently an officer Carr, I am,
and how long have you been in law enforcement?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Over fifteen years? So what all agencies have you worked for?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
So?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
I am a transplant I started my career late in life.
I had that epiphany once I divorced my heroin addict
fellon husband. I realized I could then be an officer.
I got maths stories. So I started off in New Hampshire.
But crazy story, I actually applied in Denton, Texas the
same time I applied in Rochester, New Hampshire. Oh wow,
(05:24):
in Rochester hired me firster first and that's where I'm from.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So I started my career there. I loved it. I
learned a lot, very busy.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Heavy heroine community, poverty, welfare. It's not the New Hampshire
of covered bridges and in pretty leaves right, It's it's
mass poverty and and drug abuse. So we don't have
a lot of middle class where I came from. It's
rich or poor. That's those are your options. And I
met my husband and I told my real one, not
(05:55):
that practice one, the first one.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, practice. I learned a lot that that t just
to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
When it happens, it happens.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I told him, hey, I hate the snow, I hate
the cold. I want to go south one day, and
he said, you tell me when twenty twelve, we had
a total of twenty eight feet of snow.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, babe, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Who's out there on the roof shovel in that snow
off so your roof doesn't collapse me, we need to
have a talk with your husband.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Oh well he was plowing.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh okay, yay, so that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah yeah, But what made you apply it Denton at
the same time?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, Like, how did you find Dbton of all places?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So kind of a weird story. I dated.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I was single for a long time after that practice marriage,
and I dated a guy on and off from Long
Island and he had family in Denton and he wanted
to move south someday. I wasn't moving to New York,
he wasn't moving into New Hampshire. So I'm like, well,
let's go visit. And we came down and let me
back it up. One of the first places I looked
at applying was Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I have a friend who worked in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Is crazy, yeah and uh, and so I went there
checked it out.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
But then when we went to Denton to go meet
some of his family and I looked around the area,
I'm like, man, this is beautiful, Like the houses are
super cheap.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That was back in six I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Was gonna say not anymore. It's packed here now.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, And there was just a lot to do as
people were super friendly. Everyone was pretty like did their
hair and their makeup. I'm like, wow, I'm going to
be so ugly d right.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Finally someone who understands what I walked into from rd
Island because Rhode Island women are totally New England women
in general, totally different than Texas women. And it was
a huge culture shop.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, we don't carry purses up there. We carry pocket books.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh, my pocket book, my pocket my pocketbook.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, does anyone know that?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Okay, thank you, I'm glad you know. No one else
seems to know what I talk about. So I think
I'm talking about a book.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
So I applied it both.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I applied down here, applied up there, and Rochester hired me.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I stayed.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
And when I came back down, I did look at Denton,
but I also looked at Arizona. I looked at a
few different places to figure out where I wanted to live.
And on the map, Denton County, Texas and Maricopa County
or my top two. And I wasn't sure where we're
(08:09):
going to go, and my husband and I. Our first
visit was down here. He's like, no, I want to
move here. I said, okay, Well, I got to figure
out how to become a cop here. So I started
the process on my own with Tea Cole from New
Hampshire and ended up becoming certified before I even got
a job here. And I didn't really know where to go. Wow,
So I went to a smaller agency that will remain nameless,
(08:32):
and at first I really liked it. So I did
get hired at a smaller agency. I came down. My
husband is in construction, so he makes the big bucks,
and I loved it. They had their cars, had digital
like video it would automatically upload. We still had CDs
in New Hampshire, like. It was amazing the technology.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And I worked. We had cassette tapes, we had the
Jumbo ones before.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We Hell, do you have floppy disk?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Floppy disks? Yeah? Fluppy disk yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Probably probably.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
So I came from a high violent crime area full
of drugs. Get thirty eight bars in the middle of downtown. Yeah,
and we'd at any given day we'd have three to
six people work in a shift with forty six thousand people.
So I come down here to this little town, this
little tiny place where there's thirty twenty eight officers total, three.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Current. Yeah, and I did not know. You know, I'm
the first, I'll say, I'm the last to know.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Up north, we have a lot of rules about tickets
and citations to make. We can't write a bunch of
tickets and the PD gets a budget for it. Apparently
in Texas they don't have any of those constraints. So
there are some ticket centric agencies where they depend on
that income in order to have a budget. And I
(10:01):
was not aware of that because I would have never
left Corporate America to be a tax collector. Yes, And
when I found out that was my new job in Texas,
I'm like, yeah, I don't this ain't gonna work. So
I looked around some more and I found Lewisville is
my home. And I am not here as an official
agent for Louisville or speaking on their behalf. But in menytime,
I can tell someone how great it is to work
(10:22):
there and how much joy I have from being there,
making it my home.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like I want to be that person to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So I know I know a few people that might
be local to where we're sitting right now that have
since been hired on Lewisville here just recently.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh awesome, So did you get a new job? Me? Yeah, no,
want and done so far.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm well, I say I'm failing at retirement, but I
am enjoying it. I'm enjoying my failure.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think you enjoy your failure much more than you
enjoyed work.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I enjoyed it again. Hey, let's throw out the disclosure.
I'm glad I had the opportunity to serve.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh yeah, no, I mean you loved your job and
doing what you do.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But I mean, like I could have used five more
people helping me.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, but I mean you loved your job, but this
is this is a whole different aspect.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Now, Jeff, you are a former officer. Wait where ell
did you work?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I started as a reserve officer in Irving in two
thousand and then I went to the Colony.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I worked there a few years. I worked with Josh
Jackson there.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And then I went to Lewisville for a few years,
and then I was a air marshall for a few years.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh that's cool, so very nice. And Jeff, you've actually
been on the show before. I have.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, so that's why you're on the end.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
He was on the end and the first time. Oh
well you already have camera blocked? Is camera camera like
right there, just like me?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And again and Phil you are lieutenant there in Charlestown.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Correct, Yes, you feel bad for me.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I do.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That's why I have a fidget.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Spinner too, loud.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
End of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Now, Phil, how long have you been in law enforcement?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I've been in public safety a long time. Since nineteen ninety.
I starred as a fourteen year old junior member of
the Westerly of.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Wolfscore, which is Joeann knows where Westerly is in Charles Town.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
And that's when I met Philip, when he was just
a wee lad we lad.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
I became a reserve of the town. I'm one, I'm done.
I haven't left southern New England or southern Rhode Island. Really,
I'm never going to leave some of Rhode Island. So
to hear the stories of you moving all over the
country freaks me out. I need to spend my fidget
spinner more. But to mike my current department, I've been
here since ninety six reserve officer, then dispatcher, then you know,
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full time officer, sergeant and lieutenant. There I am a
career stepped out. The only thing about me the chief.
So we'll see, you know, I'm hoping for that in
the next couple of years. It'd be nice to finish
out my career at that level. And that's, uh, that's
my plan right now. So that's where I am.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And Phil, I want to start with you when when
it comes to you stories on today's show, you and
I had the chance to speak this week and you
told me about a couple of stories you intended to share,
and there was one story that really got my attention
because it had so many elements in it and you
you told me about his story involved a faarback writing
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man into a bar u. Yeah, he gives a whole
different context of.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's Is that a Texas story or a renowned story
that was more Texas than Allan because born and raised,
I have never never experienced that.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
You would think so, so definitely would have more memorials. Yeah, definitely.
One of my more memorable, uh experiences. When you hear
on the radio, you know, naked man has rode a
horse into a bar.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Do you believe it or not?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Sounds like a joke.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It just sounds like a joke. You know.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I think there's a lot of memorable calls that you
hear on the radio and you or calls you hear
on the radio and you look at the radio and go,
there's no way that that's going to be what they
just dispatched me too. And you know, I'm sure everyone
can agree with that, there's no way this is this
call I've been dispatched to as possible. And then you
get there and it's like, holy crap, this call is real.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Especially making it up. We've got like one bar in Charlestown.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Which bar was a Joanne. Here's a trivia question. Guess
the bar that the horse naked horse guy rode into.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, it's either the gang plank or General Stanton.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Second one, General stan shu?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
General? How can you ride a horse into? General Stanton?
Just so low?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
But what are the big horses? The Butdweiser horses? What
are they call? Yeah, that's what he had?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
What so this guy?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You actually had someone riding a Clydesdale naked into a bar?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, okay, yes, for context, General Stanton was built in
the seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Ha.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
It's one of the oldest bars in the country. I
think you had George Washington lived there or stayed there.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, is this place for people to ride their horses
into this bar.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So this year, this gentleman has been a pain in
our butt for he's one of our career Uh you know,
you know, not criminals, but career.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
What would you say?
Speaker 7 (15:32):
Yeah, every day you know, so yes, yes, and he's
been a pain. He well this is you know, while
going back. But he was a pain with that horse.
He was all over the place. He tried to get
into the Memorial Day parade with it one year, Joanne,
he rode it into the middle of the parade.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
So to hear the name of the person that we
were responding to made the call more believable. That that
that's that that actually may be true when we get there.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
So it was. So he had extricated himself in the
bar and took off when he saw us. Uh. And
of course, being younger and more aggressive, what did I do?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You chased him him?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Right?
Speaker 7 (16:10):
I don't think I would do that again today at
my level of career.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well wait, wait, wait, did did he leave on the
horse or did he run?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Now he galloped away on the horse towards Route one.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And you you were in your Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
There was a couple of us. And now we're on
Route one. Joanne, you can tell him what Root one's like, right,
it's pretty pretty significant Fall Lane highway.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
In the summer, it's jam packed. In the winter, it's
nice and empty the way we like it.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Yes, And now we're on the highway, and now we
are blocking of traffic while we chased him down the
highway on the horse. Oh, it gets better because we
had just gotten tasers. So this is right around the
time where tasers had just come into play. Right, So
he turns and comes after us at the horse. We're
now out of our cars.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
So what do we do?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
What do I have the distinction of being one of
the first officers in the country to do taste the horse?
The tas the horse. Then, let me tell you it
does not work. Anybody is anybody's thinking they want to
use their taser on a horse.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
It does not work. It just pisses the horse off.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
So it's not like so he fell off the.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Horse and now the horse is bucking being tased. Top
of him and we're yelling shut off the tasers, off
the tasers, and we were able to take him and
take him into custody.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So, yeah, we have this video of it.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
I actually have a video of it somewhere and have
to I have to have to dig it out, but yeah, there.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Is a video of it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I definitely need to see that. I think I remember
that story.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
That was pretty It was a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
It was a while ago, but it was. It got
some attention from the local press.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
And uh so my recommendation anybody out there listening, this
is Phil's recommendation one A one up today.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Don't tase a horse.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Doesn't nipisale.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And again I go back to we always pass out
beneficial information.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's a learning.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Do not taste a horse.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Do not. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But the tasers.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
We have new tasers now like mine shoots four probes.
What Yeah, where are you guys been?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, retired, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Law enforcement adjacent.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
So yeah, so don't taste a horse.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah. The only thing he wasn't where it was a
cowboy hat?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So was the horse have a saddle?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Have to tell me who this was because I'm curious
now I think I know, but you're gonna have to
tell me.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I'll tell you as it was.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That makes sense now, that makes total sense.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
So he wasn't technically fair back he was just naked.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's right. He was naked, wasn't he.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, wait, who were the rest of the people on
the road doing as you're chasing this horse down the
highway with anicked guy?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Days before cell cameras, so we would everyone would have
their phone out right recording this as it happened.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But uh, yeah, no, So that was when people actually
watched and looked at things and actually took in the
data through their eyes and not.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Through their cell phones.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So he was galloping away.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
I'm trying to picture physically how that's even possible.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm trying not to, like, I can see the horse.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
You don't want me to send you the video. You
don't want the video?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I do want the video.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'll send it to Joanne afterwards.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
When Steve and I talked a couple of days ago,
I'm surprised that this isn't more of a common.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Occurrence, especially down in the South.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
So apparently not we got people. There's a guy there's
a couple of guys that take their horses into bars,
like in Fort Worth, and I think there's been one
in Dallas. But they're very respectful and the law actually allows,
if I remember correctly, for horses and bars in certain
cities and counties. So and they're always dressed like cowboys.
Everyone has their clothes on. The horses well behaved.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I had a naked incident and what wasn't with a horse.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
But when they were in the drive through at Waterbury,
the guys in the car there the other guy to
take off his clothes and get out of the car,
and he did and they locked the door, run and
hide in the bushes.
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And we're back back to more Offbeat the Lights side
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and we've got one guest joined us remotely from Charlestown
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I you know we got to let our listeners in
on this.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Bray.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
We heard all sorts of all sorts of funny stuff. So, uh,
you know what, Phil, Let's just go straight over to you, sir.
I understand you've got a story involving a helicopter.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
I mean, I've been trying to stick to the Texas
theme in New England, so you know, I figured I'd
just stay with that and give you another Texas team
call from from New England.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
How's that sounds great? So, like I said, uh, in
my last.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Story, you sometimes you get those calls on the radio
where it's like this just can't be true.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Wellhy would?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Why is dispatch sending me to a residential neighborhood for
a helicopter with guys hanging out.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Of his guns shooting down into the neighborhood? Right? So yeah,
crazy joint.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
So you get there, if you get there to talk
to the you talk to the complainant, who's adamant that
he saw a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Do I have a do I what do they call
it down there?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
We call it psychs or psychological calls up here, and
I don't know what metal. So you know, it's like,
is this a psych call? Is this guy really crazy?
Is what's going on here? So to make him feel good,
I figured, all right, I'll take a walk into the woods.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Just to see. Now, I'll go take a walk strough
and to see if I see the helicopter that you're
that you're private.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know that helicopter and.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
The helicopter, so I know.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I walked into the woods, probably about a half a mile,
and I can to an opening. And as I came
to the opening, I felt like I was in an
episode of the eighteen. Here is a Robertson helicopter flying
come flying up out of the woods. Three guys hanging
out of it with rifles, and they're firing down a
junk car. That's that's in the woods.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
I just started just yelling on the radio I got
after in the woods firing down on me. So the names,
give the names afterwards, you'll you'll know all of the
names of those idiots involved in that in that call,
(26:41):
Steves go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, I mean so many questions gonna mind. First off,
I'm in all of your officer presence. Intead you handed
a helicopter to land lay you out of the sky
right now, land later aircraft right now? Yes, like you
can chase that. Yeah, you know I would have been
like that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We don't have helicopters. We place have a helicopter. We
don't have helicopters in island.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Nobody has no no official public state helicopters.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
That made the medical air helicopters.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, but they're not.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So yeah. So this is local, good old boys.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
They had a buddy who could have a buddy with
a helicopter like that helicopter.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
What are you gonna Let's let's go fly around the
helicopter and start blowing our rounds off at a.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Junk car that we know what. That's like a good.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Idea East Texas stuff there. Yeah, yes, business that Texas call.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
So here's the bottom line is, after the.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
After was involved, after the Governor's office with involved state
police and everybody, we found.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Out there were very very few, if anything, that work violating.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Really really so they don't.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
From the house.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
From the house.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Yeah, the only thing that happened to the guy. He
had ninety days suspension on his f A license or
some minor violations that some blinder violation on the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That'll still stay.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I think it was a national story. It was a
national story. It was it was everywhere. Uh it was.
It was an f A A magazines.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Wow, you know for all sorts of things that that
that people realized that there was no criminal but there
was no criminal violations.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I could.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I can see the headline Officer orders helicopter land. Yeah yeah,
but Jeff, I do need to go read jet Jeff,
you fly as well, you flew but.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Over the cuckoo. Yeah. Yeah, many times.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I have faith that you you shall someday fly again.
Maybe well, I mean being a real estate mog. No,
maybe college maybe could get us an aircraft and you know.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Take us all to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
No. No, people take a shooting.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Island Brandy culture. She has a she does both hawk
hunting and h sky David see.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It was popular island before it was Copula.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Anywhere else with hers, I'm in Yeah, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
So just like for people who don't know Rhode Island,
Phil give us some demographics on Charlestown. So people get like,
why this is crazy?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean Charles Town is the Rhode Island is
the most densely populated state by square by.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Square footage of it.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, I was gonna say it's so small.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
They measured square footage.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
You know, population wise square footage. It's the most populated
state in the in the country. So you know there's
a million people in a small state, rhighte Island. So yeah,
I mean to have something like this is not like
the probably Eastern Texas or something like that.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
This is this is a residential residential areas that this
was happening.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And Charles Town, I mean, used to have a population
of what forty in the winter.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
That that's the summer population. It's about ten to fifteen
in the summer the winter.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
So that's why this is crazy because there's like nobody
there in the in the winter.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Right now, I've got fit.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
I have a major festival going on this weekend to
see food festival. I got fifty thousand people in town.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah I have.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I have two officers on.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
We need the helicopter friends so we can go join in.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, we need the helicopters.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, well right, you've been in law enforcement for quite
some time. You've shared some some idled some stories with me,
and you've got a very diverse selection of stories here,
I mean anything from Kangaruo and coming to America.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Yeah, it's hard to figure out where to begin, because
I've got really good retention recall, so i have a
lot of good stories to tell. People are always amazing,
and I'm like, I think everyone has good stories. They
just forgot that's it, or they just think it's normal
part of life and they don't they don't share, So.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
There's normal, no normal part of life.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
There is no normal course. Well, yeah, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I thought Phil was only.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Going to tell naked stories and I was waiting for
the naked helicopter pilot and.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Fully clothes.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Man. Well, because bullets.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm gonna blame you.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Probably I'll blame you for bringing up the naked people.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
But I have a whole tactic I use when I
run into naked people in law enforcement. So, uh, for
the most people watching this, everyone's aware that we deal
with the naked people, right is everyone aware that the
female and scene always for some reason gets to be
the one that goes hands on it and it is
always that way. I'm not afraid of the naked man.
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So I would say the last naked man I dealt with,
But I just dealt with one two weeks ago, So
not that guy. He was just walking around with the
Bible looking for something close close. Uh no, he said
he didn't have time to get them. Oh well he was.
He was that much of ours searching, sir.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I've never been in such a rush. I didn't have
time to.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And it really sucks moving from no cameras in law
enforcement to having the body cam. Because I almost yelled
out at my fellow officer that was a crap search
on that guy. Miss you missed parts. And then I
realized this is all on video. I probably shouldn't say
the chall the pockets. Yeah, but the last.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Naked pursues the pocketbooks.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So the last prison.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
The last naked person before him, was running up and
down on twenty one Business, which is a fairly heavily traffic.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
There's a lot of traffic in that area.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
We had probably nineteen twenty people call in about the
naked man running up and down the road. I had
a fellow officer with me that has well, he had
three or four years on when we had this call,
and we find the naked man later on the night
and he's naked. So this is my tactic I taught
the new the younger officer. Whenever I run into those
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naked people, I asked them, if they're able to communicate,
do you know you're naked? Seems silly, right, but their
answer can change what we're gonna do. Oh so if
they say no, then we go in one direction. They
say yes, Now we have a couple other options. Do
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you want to be naked?
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I never thought of it like that.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Yes, So now there's another tree we can another fork
in the road we can decide on. So this naked man,
I asked him, ifeen he was naked? He said yes, Okay,
do you want to be naked? He said no, Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I was going to ask you.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Phil about your naked horseback guy, how you got him
in the car and what.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You put on him?
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Because I've dealt with so many I have extra large
garbage bags at all.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
We keep scrubs, scrubs, medical scrubs.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah you're fancy. Yeah, we're not that fancy.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
We got a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Yeah, whatever, or so I cut up, you know, I
cut the bag into like a little dress for this
guy and he wears it and the other officer A
long story short, this guy was the normal person. He
was not the type of person you think he'd be
being naked out in public. He actually got lost in
a heavily wooded area and one hundred and nine degrees
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for three days.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
And during that time, he had stepped in a puddle
that ended up being about five feet deep, and his
clothes got wet and as he was walking, he started
to get chafed, so he took off his clothes to dry,
and then he got confused about where his clothes went,
and then we finally found the roadway that he would
that we were called in about. When we were trying
(34:58):
to make contact with me, kepvin running and like jumping
and diving off into the water and he had thought
that alligators were trying to attack him.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh, he was definitely altered.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah, his dehydration level and uh, you know, not having
food for three days really affected him.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Wow. Medical, Yeah, it was a medical call. Yeah. I
don't know if you've ever been dehydrated like heavily.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I used to do competitive bodybuilding and you can't even
remember how to tie your shoe. Yeah, so it was
amazing seeing him get water and food and become like
a totally regular, normal person.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And then they're totally embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah yeah, but he looked good. So I mean that's
another thing we never find in law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
But that is true.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Any time I come across the neked person. But they
gotta start medics obviously.
Speaker 11 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Usually usually there's something up.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
My only ned story really is, you know, it's a
good morning. When I was a reserve and irving, we
get a call for a naked person, a hot tub
and airy unit available shows ups.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, until it turns out there, but it's never something
you want to see. I mean I've seen one one
female naked that was like oh wow. But in general,
these it's not good.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's not it's it's not TV. You don't get Yeah.
So so that's my tactic.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I'm glad I passed it on to other officers because
apparently it's it's difficult to come up with a conversation
with the naked person, but you got to figure out
where they're at, like of course, especially where we're dealing
with mental illness or maybe even some.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Sort of psychosist from drugs.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
They fight harder and stronger, so you got to try
to feel it.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Out a little.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You think outside the box too when you're coming up
with solutions for these Thanks. Now you are a part
of the Louisville Police Foundations.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah so uh.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
A couple of years ago we realized that Lewis WOE
is one of the only agencies without an association, a foundation,
or any way that if we lost off start the
line of duty, we have no way to receive funds
for them. We have no way to money in and
give money out for people in those situations.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I feel like the ATO, the Dallas ATO.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
The officer.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh yeah, yes, I thought that makes so. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
We we developed it, started it, we got it funded.
I'm the I was the original director and founder and
now I'm the vice president, and we do a couple
of things. We uh support the memory of officers lost
one of duty and the memory of people from the
from Lewisville Police Department that have passed on. We have
funds to help ill, injured or sick employees. It is
(37:38):
not for officers sworn only it's for everyone. We do
camaraderie and UH morale boosting activities. We sponsor five k's
and events. Our our we was full Pollice soccer team
played in Garland a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yell our show will come down.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Our assistant chief J Powell passed away at the young
age of fifty two outside of work at home. It
was devastating to us as an agency. And uh, his.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Wife he was lieutenant when I was there. His his
widows and big support.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
She's actually part of our our group that is developing
this car show we're doing in October.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
So we're doing the J.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Powell Memorial Car Show and uh the car shows to
raise more funds for our group. We do pretty good.
I read a lot of grants. Uh, I'm not real
good at begging for money.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
But that's that's a tough one. But if if someone
wanted to learn more, were do you have a website?
Speaker 3 (38:31):
We do have a website. It's very nice, very nice.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
It is Lewisville, p as in Paul f as in
Frank dot org and you can see what we're up to,
what we're doing, the good that we're creating, and it's
it's a really really good thing. We're heavily supported by
city admin and city in our internal police admin.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
So it's nice to have that.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
You know, we don't we don't have any collective bargaining,
We don't have any anything like that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It's all just positive benevolence stuff for the for Yankees.
Louisville's L. E. W. Nutt. Yeah, l E. W. I s.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Give us that full address again web dress.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Is Louisville PF dot org, Louisville Paul Frank dot org.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
All right, guys, check it out.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Find out more information on the foundation there at Lewisville PD.
Now that being said, Rachel, you I've got to know
more about this story. You you mentioned something about kangaroos.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Oh yeah, okay, so this is a weird and it's
strange you have three Yankees in the show at once.
But so we don't have a lot of kangaroos in
New Hampshire at a zoom maybe maybe not a.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Lot of wild kangaroos helping around New Hampshire.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
No, no, And in our a c O s up there,
we're only the state and the municipalities are only allowed
to deal with dogs and cattle like if there's a
loose cat or a raccoon in your attic, Like, that's
not the responsibility of law enforcement or animal control.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Which was an a wake up call for me coming
to Texas.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
And I got some stories abouts and spiders and yeah,
and they call us like naima one.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yes there's isn't there businesses to take care of that?
Speaker 5 (40:12):
But anyway, okay, so the case rip so uh not
a real good traffic cop.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
I'm going to be real, I kind of suck at it. Uh.
I feel bad for everyone.
Speaker 5 (40:22):
I want to give everyone warning so they have an
opportunity to correct their behavior.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Well, what I didn't realize is coming to Texas, I'm
never going to see that person again. You pull over
a different person every time. It's a big state, it's
a lot of people. So I've got a plan. These
are the people that get tickets for these specific unsafe actions,
and these people, I think we can discuss it when
I when I meet them, right, try to be real fair.
So I see this, this rocket is going fast and
(40:49):
it it completely did not stop at the stop signed.
I didn't even see them turn their head to look
to see if anyone was coming. They're getting a ticketicket.
They just started a ticket till I walked up and
asked I did not do the seven step by later,
which is the kass thing, I guess, And I asked them,
(41:10):
is that a kangaroo in your lap?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
What is the kangaroo driving?
Speaker 5 (41:16):
No, it was a baby, a little tiny baby kangaroo
sitting in like.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
A packet book, a packet book and a packet on
their lap.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
And now I'm torn because if I write a ticket,
they might not let me pet the kangaroo, so I.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Need pets the kangaroo first. Yeah, that's kind of the deal.
I drug like. You could have just been like, hey,
I'm gonna just the car lead a kangaroo in the.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Car, you give me the kangaroo and the kangaroo over. Yeah,
is that a kangaroo in your pocket book? It was
so cool they did let me pet it. I did
not write them the citation. The kangaroo was distracting the driver.
That is why they kangaroo.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
And a long time ago, when I start of my career,
I made the decision that anybody that makes me laugh
on a traffic stop, they're going to have to get
a warning, because I don't not. I do not want
that in court. I did not want to see me
over there, you know, slapping money and spinning around to
be in silly.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
So uh but how cool would that have been?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
You go to city court, unicipal court if you should
have a citation for running the stops, you know, and
then you ob sir, what's your belief why this person
was distracted they had a kangaroo?
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I mean could feel like, yeah, okay, that'd be like
like the person if you gave them a ticket contesting
the ticket I was, I was distracted by my kangaroo.
Yeah what is that?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Or and then I.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Was playing with my kangaroo and.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
Yeah, on the on the ticket writers, you can snap
a picture, so like I could have potentially like put
that picture on the ticket, but I did not write
the ticket.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Any explanation why they had a kangaroo.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not diamond them out. But Sharkarosa
they're they're not a zoo. They're more of a rescue
here in North Texas. Again, they do great things. They
take real good care of their animals. They even drive
them around on their lap apparently. So that was how
I found out about that location, which was kind of
(43:18):
cool because I'm not familiar with a lot of things
here from Texas. And I do have to add, just
in case you guys didn't have the experience, I got
to go seek Tiger King Joe before it was shut down,
before it was a Netflix show. Okay, So I'm very
interested in animals because we don't have the same level
of allowing you to touch animals in New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
So, yeah, there's out in terrible. There's a rescue that
a nurse I worked with for years was right by
her house and we went over and looked at all
the big cats and stuff. Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
From the show. Was it a Tiger King or whatever?
He was the chief of police. Yep.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
In the town, well the town, the town is underwater. No,
it's the town that's underwater. It's a very tiny town.
It's it's in the middle of Louisville Lake.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I thought it was still there.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I thought it was like it's underwater.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's still there. It's just got a little water.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
On top of it.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Shadow because he crashed his truck into the bridge apartment
on Lewisville Lake. Yeah, years ago, went viewish.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Yeah, I used to I used to always get these
old guys and would tell us that he used to
be a police officer.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
The town that's underwater now so weird.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
That's so weird, Like you just have to lose everything.
He was like a twenty something ye yeah, yeah, well
back in the day there was nothing up here.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Yeah, so Rachel, any any other traffic stops about the
animals like that?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Oh you know what, I'm like just thinking back on
this career and you know, being in different states and
learning so many different things, like oh, when I moved here,
the driving, I did not realize it was going to
be like every single day.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It's a video game, it is, and it's worse now
than it was when you moved here.
Speaker 5 (44:59):
It's a lot and when I moved here, and it's
not like a regular video game. It's a cross between
Mario Kart and Destruction Derby.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, some Grand Theft Auto when they're too because you've
got the fights, you've got the shootings, you've got people
running people off the road. So it's kind of it's
a good mixture.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
Yes, So oh, I gotta I gotta like tell you
about the driving part, because what blew my mind is
there's very few things you can go to the jail
for up where I'm from. Like, you cannot go to
the jail for really for not paying your parking ticket, right,
which is you can here, or you turn signal or whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Nothing. None of that's criminal.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
But if you drive without a license, like not having
an issued license, that is to a criminal offense.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
And we take you to jail.
Speaker 5 (45:38):
And then when I came here and I found out,
we pull them over, Oh you don't have a license,
You write them a ticket, and then you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Wait because they drive off.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Still with no license? H blew my mind?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, but you know the one that got Texas. So
if if everybody drives defensively, nobody wins.
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of law Enforcement. We're joined with three guests today. We've
got two guests in studio with us. We've got officer
Rachel Roberts.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
We've got former officer turned real estate mogul Jeff Parkerson.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Soon to get a helicopter?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Soon to get a helicopter? Yes, we can find one.
It's in the impound and joining us remotely from Charlestown,
Rhode Island. We've got Lieutenant Phil Gingerella. Now, if you've
not checked out the website yet, give it a look. Guys,
that's Offbeatopshow dot Com. Oh Phil, do we need to
(48:04):
answer the phone?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
That's a cop phone? Is that the batphone?
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah? Hung up?
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And going back to last week's episode, we heard a
story about a little person. We did, and ironically enough,
Jeff shows up today.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
And he says, I'm not a little person.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
And you're not naked either, but you have seen my ass.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I've seen both of them. You you told me.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
That you have a story about a little person.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
I do.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
So.
Speaker 6 (49:50):
When I worked in the colony, we did our own
Well this is years ago, so they've grown.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
They're a big city now, they're not a little person anymore.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
But well back then, just you said, yes, Uh, so
back then we had a book in our own. Uh
folks in the jail, so we had this camera system
and it only would go down so low. So the
lieutenant is trying to so taking a picture of the
person who's you're booking them in.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, and it's not like an.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
So you're trying to lower it, and so this person
is so tiny that we can't get him in the shot.
So we so we put a chair over there and
he stands on the chair. We still can't get him
in the shot. So then we have to put a
block on the chair. And so now we got him
in the shot. And then he gets bonded out and everything,
and so we got all that done. He pays his
(50:43):
fine whatever it was. I don't remember what it was,
too long ago. Anyway, as we're walking out, the lieutenant's
with us and there's a receipt on the ground from
McDonald's and she picks it up and she's like, small fry,
is this yours? But he had a he had a
(51:05):
great sense of humor. He just laughed at He's.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
Like, no, that was not that's funny. That's funny. I
was laughing last week because it brought up a memory
for me. As a kid, my little brother and sister
and I used to wrestle, because back in the eighties,
wrestling was really popular, and my little brother used to
cheap by wrapping his arms around my legs and you
know how behind your knee is ticklish, and which I
would just end up rolling on the ground. Laughing because
(51:28):
it tickled so bad. And then my sister would pile
on top of him, pick him up and spin him
around and toss him, you know, and it just it
just brought back that really great memory that I hadn't
thought about in years, and you.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Were just envisioning that that suspect it was.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Tickle in the back of the officer's legs. That's all
I could think of, because it was so ticklish when
I was a kid that, you know, it was tickling
the back of his knees. As this little person's got
him by the knees.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
He was kind of describing that. Yeah, so he's got
his legs wrapped up and trying to.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
Figure out what to do.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
Is it mac?
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Is it McDonald's or McDonald's, McDonald's, m McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
You said McDonald's, McDonald's, McDonald's. That's we're in Texas.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
We had old McDonald had a farm guy too.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
We got caused, Ok, we got cause Oh what's cause cars? Cause?
Cause that's what you're saying, like Ceo Z not Carr. Hey, Phil,
what do you where do you get water from?
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Bubblauba?
Speaker 2 (52:35):
Where the hell are you from?
Speaker 6 (52:36):
Well, there's there's a whole lot of words we would
say in like East Texas that they don't even say here.
So so like where well, uh well my favorite word
is dern but uh.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Instead of darn. But uh.
Speaker 6 (52:48):
But I met at East text the other day. I so,
what do you what do you call salmon? You call
it salmon or salmon?
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Is salmon? Was like, yeah, exactly, there's an L in
it salmon. I don't do that.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
When when I was when I lived in l A,
when I was an air marsh out there, I lived
off of Veda. Who are what Veda? Everybody else called
it so pulvida. I called it Veda. So we have
our words.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
I don't know, I just reckoning out yonder.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
They talk different, like that that road chaha is it chaha?
That's in like Rolette Royce, Rowette Garland. I don't know,
I can't pronounce it.
Speaker 6 (53:31):
Yeah, Bear Texas with the excellent Yeah everything down there,
like my Bernie and all of them.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Okay, Yeah, the world's messed up. Guys.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
They they didn't ask us when they started pronouncing these things,
so we could have saved a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
They just asked us to say.
Speaker 5 (53:47):
Was that a pecan form on the way here. No, no,
what about that fruit loop bird? What's that thing called.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Bird? That's it? What do you call it? I mean,
is that what you guys call that too? You guys,
I'm one of you guys.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Now, at least you don't have to pronounce quantic.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
No, but I still have to say and route even
though it's like the most mispronounced word route. No, it's
en route every movie ever, from every military movie.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Ever root on route, but he starts with an E.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
So we had uh Rick from New York and why
pd and he always yeah, it was always tree.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
What three was tree?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Tree?
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Yeah, we've got another guest I think you should bring
on here. But they do that in the in the world.
Three is actually tree?
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Okay again, see very educational show. And remember, guys, we're
coming to the end of the show here. If you
if you haven't learned anything else from today's episode, what
don't tase a horse, especially especially Clydesdale. All right, guys,
that's it for today's show. Rachel, Jeff, Phil, this is
(55:16):
a pleasure of having you guys all on.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, guys, until next time, keep it real, keep
it funny. Stay safe and watch each other six
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