July 30, 2025 • 55 mins
Donkeys, little people, punchy old women, and MORE! This 62nd episode has it ALL with Officer Brad Uptmore and retired Officer Ross Dobelbower.
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Hosted by retired police officer Steve Rutherford and Survivor Joann Jackson.
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Hosted by retired police officer Steve Rutherford and Survivor Joann Jackson.
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Alexander Financial Management
Cook DFW Roofing & Restoration
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we'll
hear about rookies, pranks, pranks, always good pace punches.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I can't wait for that one, and more nothing like
a good old face punch.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Nothing like a good face punch. Steve here co host
for today Joe and Jackson, and we're joined with two
guests in the studio. Today. We've got retired Officer Ross Dobelbauer,
gobel Bower, the dobel Bauer. I got it, I got
it right. You did once, okay, and from now on
(01:08):
it's it's Ross, Yes, yes. Also joining us in the studio,
we've got Officer Brad up More, Sir, Welcome, gentlemen. Anything
new going on?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Joying, not really unpleasant things, but okay, Well, passing of
a friend who influenced many people in their careers, probably
thousands of people, and then just Brian's case stuff. But
that's it. Pretty boring. I'm pretty boring.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thank you, thank you. It was unexpected.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now this is our this is our first time back
in the studio after the Treehouse Sunday Fun Day road Show.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh yeah, treys shots fired.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes, if we attended the Treehouse, the Treehouse Show, their
Funday Sunday road show a little while back, and basically
the roadshows where they actually record front of a live
audience sock at the Maverick Bar over in Carrollton. So
if you haven't checked that place out, great place. Yeah, uh,
you were there, Curtis myself, I spend a little bit
(02:18):
of time on stage with with Daniel Mally. Why are
you laughing?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm not laughing. Okay, you'll have to ask Karen.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh no, I haven't heard this yet. But if you
want to check it out. Guys, the guys that were
there at the Treehouse show, you can find them on
Treehouse on Air dot com if you want to listen
to that road show. I believe it was Tuesday's episode
that they had released.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So don't believe anything Trey says about me.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, so Trey Trenholm there might have mentioned our our
wonderful joy and Jackson on the show. So anyways, guys
you want to listen to the road show, check it
out Treehouse on Air dot com. Wow. Uh, also, I
do it. They's a good guy. But I will say
this at the road show one't it carrying Daniel Cook?
(03:07):
Were there carrying Daniel owned Cook THEFW roofing and restoration.
They are. They are big supporters of our show as
well as the Treehouse Show, and Carrie and Daniel were there.
They actually they actually presented a donation to the RMS
Treehouse Listeners Foundation for for several thousand dollars. So just
(03:29):
just phenomenal. You know, the foundation, It's been around for many,
many years. The foundation supports supports the families of our
falling police and firefighters here in the Dallas Fort Worth
Metricplex covers ten counties, and you know that foundation would
not be possible without the donors. And to have the
have the Cooks being able to donate, you know, they're
(03:50):
just great people and again big supporters of both our
show and the Treehouse.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So nice people and a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's something I do. I do want to bring up.
I've kind of had to delimit this week, and and
Raws and Brad I didn't feel free to chime in here.
I need some advice. I'm thinking about purchasing some large animals,
adopting large animals, yes, adopting them for a donation fee.
(04:17):
But I'm looking at a pair of donkeys.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So you can have blank and chicks, Yeah, I can have.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I got the chicks outside. So now I figured we
need to bring in a little more ass. Yeah, and
you know that way, people could come to the house
and you can check out my ass.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, lure them into be on the show to see
your ass and chicks.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, come beyond the show and check out my ass.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, our asses.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, So I don't know. I'm I'm still at the
deciding factor, and I think they'd be.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Great because you have coyotes and stuff out here.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, just don't forget. Somebody has to be the headjackass.
So that's going to be a hit jackass.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, it's already taken. That's Steve.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And I had also gotten to the point like, okay,
what do you what do I name these animals? And
then I started thinking of some previous co workers in
law enforcement my agency. I'll think, you don't what. I
got a couple of names for jackasses.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But do you want to like you don't want to
give them something that you don't like, per se, you
want to give them a good name, loving name, like
a name of affection. Not a name of someone that
you didn't necessarily like.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Okay, for for decades, driving through the countryside, you see
a pasture and it's got donkeys in it, and I'd
always comment to my wife and go, look, it's a
staff meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's a jackass staff meaning I like this.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I always wanted one, and I wanted to name him
Donkey along before Donkey on Shrek was a thing. So well,
don't get.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Don't get if you get a girl, Okay, you don't want.
I think we've whatever. I think we've donked the hell
out of that ross. Let's move on to you. You
are you are a retired officer?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Correct? Correct?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Congratulations, thank you? How long you've been retired? The first
time I retired was twenty seventeen. Uh oh, there's a
catch to this. Yeah, and then the second time was
November of twenty one. You're trying to perfect retirement. First
one didn't work out too well. I got suckered back in.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I was going to say, you got lurid back in,
you got lwords back.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
In for the money and the glory, money and the
glory and the fame and all that. Yeah. Yeah, ended
up on nights for four years. Working twelves. Uh, there's
the glory part now. So how how long total did
you have in law enforcement? Twenty nine years? Twenty nine years?
What agencies did you work for?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I started as a child, I would say, at twenty
two years old in kenadall small cities south of Arlington.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah. I started there as a reserve for free. They
hired me full time.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Then I moved to what I thought was a bigger department,
which was Pantigo, where I did four years. Absolutely love
that city, but there's nowhere to go. There's no two
square miles. Yeah it is two point two square. There's
nowhere to there's no upward mobility wants. They have a
chief and one lieutenant.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So a good friend of mine was working for Duncanville.
He said, come take our test and then I ended
up doing twenty years there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's awesome, and.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Then got lured back to another small agency here in
North Texas.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But you're done, now, completely done. I call it tea close.
But Tea Cole is gone. I let it slide.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It was hard to do, Oh my goodness, A lot
of I mean there are seventy eighty year olds out
there still have their sart I.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Planned way better. Well, and Brad, you your current officer, how.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Long you been in the profession About nineteen and a
half years.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I started out with ten years and one day at
the Dallas Police Department one day because they offered a
three thousand dollars retention bonus, and I made sure that
that cleared before I let him know that I was leaving.
And then I went to another small North Texas police
department the last nine and a half at this point.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
All right, very good. Any special assignments in any the agencies.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You're you're at, Yeah, right now.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I run our social media and deal with the media,
basically a PIO position, and I've done that for I
think eight of those nine and a half years.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Time it is you blink and it goes by. It does.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But you know the PIO position. I played PIO for
the last seven or so years in my agency, and
that was it was climate controlled.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, well, I remember, I remember everybody always, you know,
I mean in Dallas, in a bigger department, everybody not
having any any position that's not patrol, and your patrol
is everybody you know, they're upset with with, you know,
being the golden child or whatnot. But I don't know
anybody who's ever whenever I go on vacation or whatnot,
takes over the role. They're like, I don't ever want
(08:51):
to do this again, Like you can, please have this
fat That's fine, that's fine, take it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
What do you mean I get to do a press
release on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, no, oh, it's if there's an accident on the
freeway at three am. It's you know, you have to
answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, that was the greatest thing. Whenever I retired, I
have my personal cell phone, have my city cell phone
and all the media contacts in it, and I'm like, here,
you guys can have this phone back ross any special
special CEMONSTUDI here ton man.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
People asked me what I did as a cop, and
I tell them everything they would let me do. So,
I mean, I was on SWAT, I was a SWAT
team leader. I was a what I call him marksman,
not a sniper. I did motors. I did SRO for
three years. I did personnel. I a I mean, wow,
(09:40):
Duncanville's only like sixty three sixty five officers, so you
wear a lot of hats. Yes, I mean at one
point I was I was the SRO sergeant, the traffic sergeant,
and the personnel and hiring guy and training so oh wow,
I handled all that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I mean, I had another officer work for me. But still, yeah,
you wear a lot of hats. You gotta learn to
say no. But what it does is yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What it does though, is it lets you have a
pretty broad career. Yeah, pigeonholed into one thing. So yeah, no,
I I agree, I had that was one thing. There's
one point in time that I left patrol.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Took the PIO position, still investigated all fatality accidents, still
did crime saying, still an instructor, and yeah, you're smarter
agencies you end up. Yeah, you wear a ton of hats,
have a lot of responsibilities, and that's good. That breaks
up the monotony of the day today. It gives you
experience and other things. We just gotta be careful sometimes. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
One of the reasons you were mentioning before we started
about being in an office, and one of the reasons
I retired the first time is I had my years
and I was working narcotics, playing clothes. I just didn't
feel like a company more I didn't even know where
my radio was, right, I didn't My vest was.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Probably in a lot of somewhere about it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean I was doing a lot of cool things, bearded,
you know, all that stuff, but I just kind of
got burned out and I feel like I need to
go do something else in my life. Already had twenty
a little over twenty four years in the system.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So yeah, so that that option, that door is available
to you.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Uh, Brad, you you told me earlier you had you
had a rookie story.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I did. I was God.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I think I was in my second phase of training,
so onto my second trainer, and he was a talker.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
He was an older guy.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I'd loved him to death, but he was the type
that you know, whenever you're going code like he would
literally if I was going through the schools and put
his coffee on the dash and be like, if you
spill that, you know you failed today. Like it was
kind of the old school, and he was super tough
at the time. Ended up becoming obviously, I think, like
they all do, you know, it's they all put on
kind of a you know, a massage. Here's you know,
(11:54):
I've got to be tough that but the most wonderful
man I attribute him to even on that short pase
saving my life.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But we we went on this call. It was an
abandoned children call, and it was in. It was in.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
This was whenever I work Northeast and there's pockets of
Northeast where there's a lot of immigrants that come in
and and some and back then it was like, you know, rightfully,
so there everybody kind of stays together there, right So
entire apartment complexes are are all the same people that
speak the same language and you know, have the same culture.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
And we go to this call.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
We uh, you know, I've never answered an abandoned child
call before. I don't know anything about children. I don't
have children at this point. And he, you know, he's
he's raised to two or three, I think, two daughters.
And so we talked to the leasing officer and she's like,
somebody came in and one of the kids had walked
outside and he's just were in diapers.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And we show up.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
She lets us in and there's three of just the
most precious kids that based on the way that they
studied us, you know, they kind of ran from us
at first, and you know, my trainer tapt hey, you
know you're you're six foot six. You need a giant,
giant squad, right, Yeah, And so I squat squatted down,
and it looked like, you know, one of them was
(13:09):
about ten years old, one was maybe five years old,
and the other was like three.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And they were alone in this apartment.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
And it is at this point that shift was a
four to twelve, so it was probably about ten o'clock
at night. And so I checked, there's nothing in the fridge,
there's no contact, and my trainer says, hey, I'm going
to go start talking to neighbors. I'm going to start
try f And this is before iPhones, this is before
you can push a button and find out who everybody is.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So he's like, stay here and entertain the kids, which
is the word like we've got right.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
So I go in and and the oldest is is
super mature and you know in some broken English, she
sits there and she brings her little brother up, the
five year old, and she's kind of pushing him towards me.
But you know, it's my belief at this point, like
maybe they've never seen someone like me before, let alone
in this in this uniform, and you know, she said
he the little boy finally spoke and said, you know,
(14:07):
what's your name? And uh and I said, oh, I'm
off for Brad and he giggled, and then he ran
off into the kitchen and the ten year old brings
me the little one that's in diapers, the baby, and
so I'm trying to hold a baby and the only
thing i know is to support its neck, I think,
And so I'm kind of bouncing it on my knee
and I'm building trust and I'm and I'm asking questions
(14:28):
and they she just doesn't understand, like it's anything. And
so I'm just staring at the door, waiting for my
trainer to come back to anybody to relieve me, right,
And it's and it's still that part of training where
everything's tense and I'm so scared I'm gonna screw up,
and I'm worried about everything. And the little five year
old who disparted around the corner runs back and he's
(14:49):
holding like a bag of baguets and he just in
the biggest smile, just screams, look.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It is offer bread.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And I like my heart just melted that this adorable,
sweet boy, who you know, we have no connection to
the entire world.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
We're here to help. Thank God.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You know that he's not scared of us and in
our uniforms and that we just because we don't look
like him. But it was just the sweetest, the sweetest
thing in the world. And I mean we were there
for a few hours at that point. I mean, you know,
mommy had to go to jail that night for you know,
abandonment of a child, which is uh, it became one
of once I saw that impact of that, and kind
of I knew that a lot of the senior officers
(15:26):
shied away from those calls because they take so long.
That I kind of took on a bunch of those calls,
especially once I had kids, because you know it it mattered, right, like.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, and something. Yeah, it's it's amazing. I've got
a similar story like that. You know, it's amazing. Sometimes
kids get left at home and mom and or dad
goes off to the club.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah it's in the car, in.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The car in the heat or in the cold.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah it's it's amazing, but it's unfortunate it does happen.
Oh yeah, I think just about every officer's got us
to worry.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It happens across across all classes and races, all everything.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's absolutely so you're ever going to be officer
Bread Bread.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
His daughter, his uh my trainer's daughter ended up becoming
a Dallas officer also, and she'll whenever she comments on
anything on my face, but it's always officer Bread.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Ready, that's gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Stick, That's gonna stick. I ever see, you are going
to be like Bread?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now, Ross you had mentioned, you had mentioned pranks. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
When I started, it was a totally different law enforcement. Yeah,
old scares. Yeah, I mean I would say old school.
I hate to be that guy.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Now that's like, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Back in the day.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But it was totally different.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It's changed dramatically in like the past ten twelve years.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
No dash cams, no body cams, no recordings, no I
mean evidence. Yeah really, but a lot of it was spent.
Like I said, I started as a child. I feel like,
you know, in kenadall I had did. I worked three
eight hour shifts and then got hired full time. And
I showed up at the station and there was no
(17:09):
one else at the station. I have my two rookie
bags full of books, you know, and I said, well,
who am I with? So they called the captain at home.
It was a Saturday, my first day three. They called
the captain at home and said, he's not with anybody.
Tell him get his butt in a car.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Did you have any training? Have you been through an academy?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of course? Okay, okay, academy Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I was going to say, good God, no, no, no,
no fto.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I wrote with a guy who'd been full time cops
six months for three eight hour shifts, and then they
said hit the street. So I just did what all
rookies do when you first get cut loose. I drove
around in circles on the main roads off.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah. But with being that young and not having a
lot of adult.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Supervision, you tend to pull pranks on each other. And
it really started in Duncanville. I a coworker who I
love dearly, and we went to the it's a weird story.
I went back to the academy again. Duncanville wants everyone
to go to the same academy. So I graduated the
(18:12):
basic academy with my intermediate because I already had all
my classes and all I needed was hours.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Did you have to take the State licensing and shame again. Okay,
I just stood in line with my tea cold card. Nice.
So but you got paid Friday coming from nights. Yeah,
got a bad gig. But my guy went to the
academy with I won't. I don't know if I should
mention his name or not, but officer X, officer, well
(18:39):
now he's chief X. Oh yeah, yeah, let's stay a no, no,
he's He's an amazing guy. I love him to death.
He was texting me yesterday. So he started with the
baby powder on the visor.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So eight and a half by eleven paper folded in half,
filled with baby powder, carefully put on the visor on
a sunny day so that when I got in the
car to back out of the station, hit the sun,
pulled it down all over the beautiful beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So then putting it in the air ducts.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So then I'm in the locker room with the hand
dryer with my uniform shirt off, trying to get all
the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So I got him back with the baby powder in
the ace events. Yes, oh yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, turkey baser full of baby powder and you gently
injected into the ace events and then you set everything
to max high you know, as soon as he gets
in and turns on.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The key, that's better than pepper spray.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So this continues escalating, and then one day he's parked
at the station and you know the Crown vicks All
had fleet keys.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Key would open it. So I took a I took
two cans of the cheapest rose scented potpourri.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I could buy a dollar general, and I opened his
back door and I filled his car full of both
of those cans of Poepery spray.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
My lord. Yeah, yeah, but you know what, he probably
smelled good the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It probably smelled good the rest of the time he
had that car the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
This is Offbeat, the light side of law enforcement. Check
us out online at offbeatcopshow dot com. Let's welcome Daniel
Cook from Cook DFW Roofing and Restoration into the studio.
Their numbers eight three three Cook DFW, the website, cookdfw
dot com. What's happening, Daniel, man case Steve.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
It's been fantastic time, been busy and uh, just trying
to stay organized, stay on top of everything.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Now, Daniel, we were hanging out not too long ago
at the Treehouse shows. They're what they referred to as
the Sunday Funday Roadshow, and they're at the road show,
you and your wife Carrie actually presented a check to
the RMS Treehouse Listener Foundation. And the Listeners Foundation has
(21:02):
been around for a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
The foundation provides monetary donations to the family members of
our fallen police and firefighters here in the Dallas Fort
Worth there. He covers ten counties and just a very
very important foundation. And you, you and Carrie at Cook
dif W have been longtime supporters of the RMS Treehouse
(21:27):
Listeners Foundation. I just I just want to say, you know,
thank you, thank you for your donation from your company
and the support you guys give to the foundation. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Absolutely, Steve, super important. It's an unfortunate you know, it's
an unfortunate thing that you have to donate to, but
it needs.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
To be done.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
And uh, you know, Carrie for many years before we
even met, was a was a foundation donor. And then
you know, obviously since we've been in business, we we've
constantly figured out how to get back and we know
that with are you know, our promotional you know costs
that we supply to the tree house. I know a
portion of that. You know, everybody donates back, you know,
(22:10):
you know, everybody is on top of this and it's
a very important organization to donate too.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
So we were very thrilled that we were able to
do that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
The listeners made that possible, you know, when they call
in and they asked for us for coming out and
giving us estimates on different things around the house. We
are making a valid effort trying to make sure a
percentage of our profits always go back to the RMS.
And so just a great day, good thing to see everybody,
and we're glad we were able to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, and you know, it's just it's phenomenal that that
you guys are active there with the foundation and your donations,
and it's it is so so very appreciated. Unfortunately, a
lot of my friends are survivors of fallen police officers
here in the Dallas foot Worth area, and several of
them have been recipients of those donations, and it makes
(22:56):
it makes such a huge difference in their life at
a point when they should not have to worry about
finances after the tragic loss of their first responder. The
last thing, the last thing you want to have to
focus on in that situation is money that those those
donations go. They go so far to help them, help
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them cover their expenses while they while they begin the
grieving process. So Daniel think, thank you very much, passer,
thanks long to carry as well. Guys, if you're in
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Speaker 1 (24:26):
And we're back back to more offbeat the light side
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and Jackson.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Hey y'all.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
We've got two guests joining us in studio. We've got
retired Officer Ross double Bauer. Yep, got it, got it.
Some names can be you know, challenging for me and you. Yeah,
I've butchered some names. Yes you have. I'm proud of
myself here.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
My joke is always they'll say what's your last name,
and I'll say double Bower and spelling right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'd be phonetically spelling that out.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And also joined us in the studio, We've got Officer
Brad up more, Officer Bread You're ready, Officer Breads in
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Officer Brad, did you have a missing person? No?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
We had you know how once you kind of find
what what you you're good at, which you like. Of course,
all my stories are from almost dead, like multiple decades ago,
because I.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Have a I have a desk job.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I admire everybody who goes out every day and answers
all the calls and the heat and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I'm just glad I don't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But nothing funny happens in.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
The nothing about Yeah, it's uh, but you know I
I kind of at a certain point somehow carved out
a niche for myself that I got really good at
death notifications and you know, so and and you know,
part of the reason I became a cop. I mean
obviously we were used to help people, right, we all know,
and to be a good person. I want to make
a change in the world.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Just don't say that in your world war right, yeah right,
yeah right, I'm arrest people.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But you want to you want to see things that
you're not supposed to see, and so you know I did.
We would.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
My partner hated it at the time, but we would
go to all the you know, the signal twenty seven's
the dead body calls and.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You know, like you're saying, you drive around and you
see an accident and you're like, oh, I wonder what happened?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Right right, Well, now become a cop and I put
that blanket over right.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So I got really good at it, though, like I
you know, and it was good because like I said,
I uh, I found a way to channel it was
I could deliver it properly. Right, Like was I Baylor
University's two thousand and three Actor of the Year. Maybe
I was, but I'm not saying that I was acting.
But I knew how to control myself, how to how
to speak to someone like a human, right, Like That's
(27:05):
always been my biggest thing. I never want to be
a police robot. I want to be a human. And
so I had kind of carved out this niche for
myself that and I had this whole rapport. It was
almost it was almost a skit, right, so much that
even when I went to my new department here, it's
like they said, we've got one today, like we think
you should do this in front of the rookie and stuff.
But one night in Northeast we happened to have I
(27:27):
think we had four or five homicides on the same night,
and so it was down on Ferguson. I remember in
an apartment complex there was like a double I don't
know if it was gang violence, I don't remember what
it was, but we had to deceased down there, and
since we were so busy that night, they had sent
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officers from Southeast right, which are a totally different breed
than officers in North of thirty right. They are they
have a different type of justice, they have a different
way of doing everything. So I show up on the
call and I'm absolutely ready to, you know, tell this
poor woman that her son has died. And you know,
I'm kind of going through the steps to make sure
I remember all this stuff to do. And she pulls
(28:09):
up and she's rightfully so she's losing her mind. Where's
my baby? Where's my baby? And I'm walking up and
I'm like, ma'am, hey there, And as I start to talk,
one of these Southeast sergeants walks right in front.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Of me and just goes he did, and I was like,
what did you just do?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Like I think I smiled because it was so out
of the blue, and you know, and then she starts
wailing and I'm looking and it's like I can't say anything.
I'm just a patrol and I can't say sir, sir no,
like And at that point, like I did a heel
turn and walked right back to the to breakrotect the scene,
like I had no. I didn't want to have to
(28:48):
deal with the refergustis for that.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But it broke by. I was like, oh, you poor thing,
like yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I was I was gonna try to make it as
it's never easy, but I was going to make it
as to where you remember something like you remember that
it wasn't just it was delivered properly.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, right like you say, yeah you have the things
you say and you know that effort was made.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, I could see his face was, yeah, that's something
you do not want to screw up.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No, I made a lot of notifications after working, you know,
fatality motor vehicle accidents. Then after we finished the scene
that to go notify the family and that yeah you
you know that you're about to change their life the
words coming out of your mouth, and yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
You know I I've had I became friends with a
dad in the town I work like. He he found
a way to reach out to me after fact, was
like can I buy you a drink at a place?
I just want to tell you how important that was,
like that that we weren't just a call that night, uh,
and that you you sat down with us, you delivered
it well. And he was he was a surgeon, so
he he had said, Uh, you know, I have to
(29:53):
do that to people too. And I like what you
did basically, and it was horrible news, but thank you
for And that's worry about something else instead of just
this horrible, horrible news.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, because you have to carry that burden with you,
Like it was one of our friends who told me
about Brian. And while I'm eternally grateful, I feel really
bad that he was the one who had to tell me.
It wasn't command staff, right right, So yeah, I mean
I'm grateful to him, but I still feel like it
left it leaves you guys with a burden too.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah right. My biggest takeaway from Brad's story
just don't say don't answer the door. Brad's on the board.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, hopefully I will never be on that again.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
If I see Officer brad Windows death, I'd just be
on go away, nobody's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Home and nobody's there.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I've seen some crazy reactions. I'm sure you have to.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
When I gave I was doing everything, trying to do
everything perfectly and all that. The guy just stood there
at the door staring at me, and he goes, okay, thanks,
I just close the door, like I was sting there
with a rookie like, oh, this is how you're going
to do it right. It was a dad and he
just said okay, thanks, closed the door, like no emotion.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, I guess it. It was like two or three
in the morning as well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
He was asleep and he was probably shocked and it
probably took a little bit to settle in.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And it's not what it was awkward for us. Walk
back to the car and he's like, what happened. I
was like, I don't know. You know, people handle it differently. Well,
we we had one we had one that we had
to do one evening and we we were calling one
of the one of the siblings if you will, and
you know, we would always go in person if if
(31:37):
it was possible, and were contact agency that jurisdiction and
send them. In this particular night, we had one situation
where we needed to make it we need to make
a phone call. And it was two, you know, two
three o'clock in the morning and the family member answered
the phone said hey, you know, it's off brother and
my agency and stuff, and she's like, this is inappropriate
(31:58):
time to call anybody and hung up.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I was like, okay, okay, should be a clue.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, so unfortunately we delivered in person to another family member.
That was that was the That was when we end
up calling medics on because the reaction was it was
a cultural, culturally diverse situation and there was a there
was a language barrier barrier as well and some religious
(32:29):
barriers there. So that was that was a different one.
But ill, Yeah, those were never easy and we go
back to talking about the dark side, the dark humor
and actually have to have fun at work because the
traumatic events. But that's traumatic, have to tell some of
their loved ones not coming home. So yeah, unfortunately, that's
that is part of the job. Don't forget you know
(32:51):
what you signed up for, guys. Yeah, that's a wonderful one,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't remember that being in the job description.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, after you read it and you applied, then they
start adding stuff it wasn't there. It's like they update
the terms gone so yeah, updated terms by.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
The way, social media updates.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, no, Brad, you had you mentioned to me something
about games on calls.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
We did.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
We I mean, you know, you go on so many
calls that are just the same thing over and over
and over and got to spice it up.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, spice it up a little bit. And I remember, uh,
let's see, we were on it.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It was a third watch, and uh, I had a
good buddy that he would partake in these with me,
especially even if it was a one man call. He'd
show up and one of our favorites. I used to
like to ironically wear oversized aviators like that was kind
of my thing.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It was my dunge rights.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Tongue in cheek, like people would think I was being serious,
and that to me delighted me that you think I'm
that serious, right, Like I'm not the type of cop
that it plays bad boys. Whenever somebody calls right, that's
not me. You can tell by the way just everything.
But I would wear these aviators and we would we
would stand that, we would have the complaints stand in
front of us, and again with peace and love. These
(34:04):
are property crimes. This is not anything serious, right, And
we would both have our glasses on and uh, and
I know this is radio and so I will have
to describe. But as I would ask her the first question,
I would dramatically remove my glasses like see, like it was, uh,
what is it with h what David dramatically, and I'd
be like, so, what time did this happen? And she
(34:26):
would tell me and I'd write it down, and then
my partner on the other side would ask her a question.
And as I'm putting mine back on, as he's doing
the same thing, he's like, you didn't see anything? And
we would see who would get called out? How long
we could go? And it's so stupid and simple, but
we're just trying to make it through the shift, right,
(34:46):
And you can't laugh. That's the key because your partner
over there, he wants you to be the one to
screw up. So he's over there, you know, mugging you
and glaring at you. And no, it's you've got to
be dramatic about it, all right, Yeah, No, just happened
to have my Look, I've got mine right over there.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
We just happened to have some less These are like
ironically small, right, show us.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
How this how this looks? Brad h it's kind of
hard with the heads It.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Is hard with the headsets. We'll just do like a yeah,
what time did this happen? Like it you know, and
it's and and there their you know, you're you're really
taking their crime seriously, right, like just good.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You were taking it seriously, but you were having fun, right,
and it is.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yes, is this if having a If the BMV is
the worst day of your life, you've lived a pretty
good life.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So agreed, you know it was it was it was harmless.
Those were the harmless little things.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Or so it makes me think of a story where
you're talking about taking things seriously but not taking them seriously.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We had a guy one time.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
There was a lady who lived in the city who
claimed every night someone came into her house and moved
things around. And everybody's had that one, right, So warmer
officers got tired of it.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And he was super senior.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
He was an old head like it took. It was
a battle to get him to wear a vest I mean.
So he went out to this house and he's like,
I'm gonna go handle this call. I'll take care of it.
So maybe a week later he gets called in because
her family complained because what he did is he told
her to take flour and spread it over all the
(36:22):
floor and carpeting in her house to see if they
could see some footprints the next time she saw someone,
so her family, her family arrived. Yeah, her, her family
arrived and her whole house is covered in flowers and
shuffling around in it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
For a week, the prints in it.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But of course the funniest thing is he didn't tell
anybody about it. Yeah, he didn't go and that's what
I did.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It was totally silent.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Then of course you can't help but laugh, but you
also feel bad for the family they have to clean
this mess up.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I just heard a story about that the other day
about was on one of the law enforcement pages about
they set up a baby cam named nanny Cam and
there was someone actually living in her attic. It was
an elderly woman living in her attic, coming down and
doing things. And that's that's scary, because, I mean, you
read stories about people in crawl spaces and basements and addicts.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
And you want some funny here, Joe, I know where
you heard that story where I told it on the
road show at the Treehouse.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Did you to it?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You think someone's living your as what I read it
online too. I think I think it's like a common story.
It's kind of like the alien fighting.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, we had some FO Wurth officers on and yeah,
they complaint was an elderly lady. I mean she was
elderly but still at a part time job. So she
would leave her house for you know, go to work.
She had called because she said, I'm finding things, you know,
I'm finding things out of place. I'm finding dishes in
my sink. So officers responded many, many times, and they
(37:57):
finally got the family involved. They're starting to go for
professional help for her. Anyways, baby monitor of all things
gets installed in there. And apparently this range must have
been pretty good because they did refer to it as
a baby monitor. She leaves for work one day, she's
right down the end of the street. She pulls it up.
There's a guy inside her house. And this guy gold
to find out I've been living in the attic for
(38:18):
the last two weeks. And he'd wait for her to
go to work. Then he would come down. That's creepy.
That's check your addic.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Super creepy.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Might not be squirrels.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I wasn't hot right now.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, and he went to my attic. They're going to
be dead, or are the dead or they're going to
be dead.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Well, if you notice see an odor coming from your attic.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
God, no, I don't want any of that foolishness.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I was called out one time to have seen to
be a chimney expert. What A sergeant called me out
and said, we have a guy here. The lady had
a family living in her chimney, oh supposedly, And so
he called me out and he's like, roll with it.
So we went in and he's like, this is Officer
double Bower. He's a chimney like sweep. Well, he's just
like a chimney expert on families that live in chimney.
(38:58):
So he's going to check it out for us, And
so I did. I got down and opened the flu
and looked up in the room.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
My flash law. I was like, no, they've all moved out,
and she was happy. She just needed an expert on
thinking outside of the box. I was hoping, we're gonna
hear a story about you putting on the harness and
then lowering you don't know me or something.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's funny. It's like Dave's alien story.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yes, we we've had an alien story. We'd again and
this happened. Where what did you see you for?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Westerly, Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, up in the Rhode Island, they get tied up,
They get tied up quite a bit because the same color,
same complaint calls all the time. There's ailing in my house,
there's aiding in my house. This goes back to a
previous episode. I want to see six seven somewhere around there.
And he and his partner go in there, and so
where's this alien at sitting on you know, sitting on
(39:44):
the edge of the bed. And anyways, they go inside
the room and this partner Earli SI said just go
with it, gets in there and they just starts yelling saying, hey,
you better get better get out, and then across the
bed starts a fight with him alien. And then find
the yells of this partner, hey, get the window, get
the window, open up the window. He runs over there
(40:06):
and throws the alien out and then yells out the
window and don't ever come back. Then they close the window,
and ladies like, thank you, thank you so much. Officers,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You've never had another problem outside the box? Yep, yep, yep.
I mean, who who you don't go to work expect
to fight aliens for crying out loud?
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And we're back back to more ofsby the light side
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We're joined with retired officer Ross double double Bauer. Yep,
perfect double Bower. You've got a master now I'm buying
a lot of ticket today. Uh. And we've got where
(42:09):
also joined with the officer bread right, Brad Off Officer
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Speaker 2 (43:08):
Brad's breaking things that.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Help out. We're trying to concentrate. Brad's on the end,
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Speaker 4 (43:16):
Up the studio.
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All right, We've got We're going to close out here
with a couple of couple of stories. Ross, I'm a
(44:13):
little apprehensive about this one. You have a story about
a little person. I mean, what cop doesn't have a
little person story, Ross, I don't have a little person story.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Neighboring agency their jails under remodel, so they're transporting their
prisoners to our jail. So I get a call to
assist a neighboring agency, is it, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, only need a little jail. Just need a little jail.
I just need a small, small jail.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Really, they just needed to sell, right, so's right, cover
my name and so.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Like I get, I.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Gets to help with an unruly intoxicated prisoner, and so
I show up in the sally port and it's so
this neighboring agency officer happens to be probably one of
the smallest officers I know that I worked with, just
you know, maybe five four one hundred and fifty pounds
(45:16):
may or fifteen pounds maybe, just a small guy. So
he goes to get his unruly intoxicated prisoner out and
it's a little person and he's in handcuffs and he
is mfing and fighting and everything. So imagine, God, imagine
imagine the two of us trying to drag this guy.
We're not going to do the fingerprinting process. It's not
(45:36):
going to happen. So we get him to the cell
and open the door and both of us are We've
got the handcuffs off of him now, so he's really fighting.
So we're trying to get him in there. And if
you can imagine we're you're also you don't want to
be rough. I mean, you don't want to like grab
a dude like you would a big burly biker guy
(45:57):
and hammer him into the cell. So we're sitting there
going back and forth, and this other officer has him
in the door and we've got him inside, and the
guy reaches around and grabs him right around the knees,
so if you imagine, his height is like knee height,
and he grabs him around the knees, and then that
officer falls on top of me and we fall into
(46:19):
the jail hallway, and then the guy gets out of
the jail cell. So now we're in the main hallway
trying to get this little person back under control, to
get him back into the cell. But seeing the other
officer with his arms waving like what he's got someone
wrapped around his knees, it's not something you would ever expect.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
To see, for sure.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I just.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
You lost Joanne I did a minute, you know, moments ago.
She's been over here trying to hide her laughter. Uh,
you're crying. Okay, So I am to understand that you
and this other officer got taken by a little person.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
We did, Yeah, but we finally got him wrangled up,
got him where he needed to be. Yeah, finally chased
him down, got him where he needed to go. And
I'm gonna say he.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Was using his eyes to his advantage for sure. Yeah,
you're thinking of the themes, so to Mario brothers. Aren't you.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Just having visions of childhood stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Childhood stuff, love little people in your childhood? Oh? Okay, yeah,
I'm I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I mean, the best part is we didn't have to
strike him or punch him or anything. I wouldn't want
to punch someone that is normally it wouldn't be someone
you would appropriately punch.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Yeah, that's a good see.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And who and who like who wouldn't who else wouldn't
you punch?
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I probably wouldn't. I don't know, Officer Brad. Yeah, it
had to. I mean, cross just kind of just did
you hear that? Boss? Back it up?
Speaker 5 (48:10):
No, we had a we had a call an uptown
which is uptown Dallas, which is super nice part of town.
Obviously a lot of money there clean not a lot
of not a lot of issues. And uh and we've
got a report that there was a burger in progress
of one of these town homes. And these were on
the outside, these townhomes look like something you'd find in
Italy or something, right, super super nice, super luxurious. But
(48:33):
I guess they were renovating the one that they had
seen someone breaking into. So it's a two three men
call show up with you know, three.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
One men unit units.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
We all show up and we kind of go inside
and it's something from at that point I can only describe.
It's like it's so luxurious on the outside and you
walk in and it's something in Stranger Things terms. It's
like the upside down. There is no carpet, there is
no there's nails everywhere. It's just, uh, it's it's it's creepy, right,
and it's still it's late afternoon, so the shadows are
throwing stuff. So we we all have to like crawl
(49:05):
in to a broken dorks of the doors were boarded,
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
It looks like a horror house.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Uh, So we all kind of crawl in and and
meander our way through. And we get inside and and
it's dark, and you know, there's dust everywhere, and our
flashlights are shining. You know that it's enough that the
you can see the dust particles. And my partner elbows me.
And there's somebody sleeping on the couch and long, long
(49:32):
white hair, very very looks very teeny, kind of frail,
kind of I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
It was creepy. Right, This is the stuff that you
never think, right, I'm yeah, I'll check that.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I do that.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Yeah, Friday the thing, I'm like, hey, y'all got that person,
I'll check upstairs, right. So I go upstairs, and obviously
I'm a larger person. I remember the partner described it
as like anytime I take a step, like you could
see the wood creek and the dust fall down. And
it was just and so I'm up there and I
found I start to find a bunch of purses that
were empty, and I was like, oh, we got maybe
(50:06):
a PERSI for something. About that time, I hear my
partner yell down up more, get down here. We've got
a live one. So I take off run and I
run down the stairs around the corner and there's this
elderly woman, I mean like a band. She has one
handcuffed on and the other one they haven't been able
to secure it, and so it's like a talon and
(50:27):
she's lashing out at these two other officers just attack right,
and they're kind of keeping her at bay. I mean,
look said, whenever we saw you couldn't tell if it
was a man woman. It was just creepy. So oh yeah,
and this woman's screaming at the top of her lungs.
And like I said, band, she's the best word. And
so I run up to kind of join the fray
(50:49):
and I look at her and I go, hey, stop,
and I start to reach and I grab her wrist
and at that second she rears back and she squarely
kicks me in what some might go the testicle, right,
exactly right, and I'm you know, I'm not wearing my
cup that day.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
And but.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
And with with no thought, with no reaction, I slug
her across the face and she hits the ground to
the point that I remember comically looking. I remember like
the other officers were in like this triangle, and I
remember looking down and then like looking up at him
(51:30):
and then he puts down and looks up at her,
and then he turns and looks at the other officer,
and we're standing there and I'm like, did I kill
this person? Because Barry, it does not look good, right,
And I'm already freaking out. I mean at this point,
I've only you know, I got five years on I mean,
I got to uptown like if I'm on days, and so,
uh so we call an ambulance, of course, immediately start
(51:52):
the supervisor. We're like, well, let's get her out of
here somewhere. So they removed some stuff from the from
the door so we can get out the front door finally,
and we kind of lift her up and we handcuff her.
We feel we finished the job on that, and so
we're kind of carrying her, you know, just like a
dummy almost, And so I've got kind of her one
side of her.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Wrist, got her legs.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
We start walking through the door, and uh female officer
holds open the door for me and the male officer,
And as we get there, the bansheet starts screaming again
and thrashes so violently in this house that there's a
piece of wood that it goes. I mean it look again,
horror movie. Think that blood is splashed across the wall.
(52:35):
And now as she's thrashing, she because this house is
so dilapidated. Now she has a spike in her head
and she's screaming at the top of her head, and
again this is we. Ambulance arrives. The homeowner shows up
and he says, I'm not pressing charges on this. There
is no offense here. Let like, let that person get treated.
(52:56):
It's okay, everything's going to be fine, and please don't
he's yeah, just just.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (53:03):
So, you know, we check with the supervisor and it's like, okay,
well just let her, let her, let her go and
let her get checked out.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
So we uncovering.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Of course, she assulted you.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
She she did, well, she did.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
But at this point I don't remember if there was
another circumstance here as to but she takes out, she
takes the spike out, she flips off the ambulance, flips
off us, and walks away.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
And that was that.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
So when my kids, this story has only come up
when my children have said, you know, Dad, it's not
okay to hit women, right, I'm like, absolutely, like we do.
We we put women on a pedestal, We protect women,
we take care of women. And my oldest is it's
that look in his eye, like what if it's.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Elderly.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Yeah, And I don't remember the details of the and
it may have been one of those things of hey,
I just want to go home. I want to put
some ice on this thing like that. That matters a
little more than the stomach than an arrest.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Right, Yeah, you know, I think there's a lesson to
be learned here. If Officer Brad shows up at your door,
answer answer.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
Don't have a way for me to crawl in, right.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Like Dave, Dave's not here.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
It used to be action packed. It's not the last decade.
And that's fine.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
That that's that's good and we're all still here absolutely, guys.
Thanks for coming on the show today, Brad Ross. It's
been a pleasure having you on.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
What was his last name again? Look at dot.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Double bower, double bower. Alright, all right, I can't wait
until John Smith comes on the show. All right, guys again,
it is a pleasure having you on. Guys. Till next time,
keep it real, keep it funny, stay safe, and watch
each other.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
Six
Welcome, Welcome to Offbeat, the Light Side of Law Enforcement,
part of the Treehouse Podcast Network. On today's show, we'll
hear about rookies, pranks, pranks, always good pace punches.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I can't wait for that one, and more nothing like
a good old face punch.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Nothing like a good face punch. Steve here co host
for today Joe and Jackson, and we're joined with two
guests in the studio. Today. We've got retired Officer Ross Dobelbauer,
gobel Bower, the dobel Bauer. I got it, I got
it right. You did once, okay, and from now on
(01:08):
it's it's Ross, Yes, yes. Also joining us in the studio,
we've got Officer Brad up More, Sir, Welcome, gentlemen. Anything
new going on?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Joying, not really unpleasant things, but okay, Well, passing of
a friend who influenced many people in their careers, probably
thousands of people, and then just Brian's case stuff. But
that's it. Pretty boring. I'm pretty boring.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thank you, thank you. It was unexpected.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Now this is our this is our first time back
in the studio after the Treehouse Sunday Fun Day road Show.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh yeah, treys shots fired.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yes, if we attended the Treehouse, the Treehouse Show, their
Funday Sunday road show a little while back, and basically
the roadshows where they actually record front of a live
audience sock at the Maverick Bar over in Carrollton. So
if you haven't checked that place out, great place. Yeah, uh,
you were there, Curtis myself, I spend a little bit
(02:18):
of time on stage with with Daniel Mally. Why are
you laughing?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm not laughing. Okay, you'll have to ask Karen.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh no, I haven't heard this yet. But if you
want to check it out. Guys, the guys that were
there at the Treehouse show, you can find them on
Treehouse on Air dot com if you want to listen
to that road show. I believe it was Tuesday's episode
that they had released.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So don't believe anything Trey says about me.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, so Trey Trenholm there might have mentioned our our
wonderful joy and Jackson on the show. So anyways, guys
you want to listen to the road show, check it
out Treehouse on Air dot com. Wow. Uh, also, I
do it. They's a good guy. But I will say
this at the road show one't it carrying Daniel Cook?
(03:07):
Were there carrying Daniel owned Cook THEFW roofing and restoration.
They are. They are big supporters of our show as
well as the Treehouse Show, and Carrie and Daniel were there.
They actually they actually presented a donation to the RMS
Treehouse Listeners Foundation for for several thousand dollars. So just
(03:29):
just phenomenal. You know, the foundation, It's been around for many,
many years. The foundation supports supports the families of our
falling police and firefighters here in the Dallas Fort Worth
Metricplex covers ten counties, and you know that foundation would
not be possible without the donors. And to have the
have the Cooks being able to donate, you know, they're
(03:50):
just great people and again big supporters of both our
show and the Treehouse.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So nice people and a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's something I do. I do want to bring up.
I've kind of had to delimit this week, and and
Raws and Brad I didn't feel free to chime in here.
I need some advice. I'm thinking about purchasing some large animals,
adopting large animals, yes, adopting them for a donation fee.
(04:17):
But I'm looking at a pair of donkeys.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So you can have blank and chicks, Yeah, I can have.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I got the chicks outside. So now I figured we
need to bring in a little more ass. Yeah, and
you know that way, people could come to the house
and you can check out my ass.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, lure them into be on the show to see
your ass and chicks.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, come beyond the show and check out my ass.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, our asses.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay, So I don't know. I'm I'm still at the
deciding factor, and I think they'd be.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Great because you have coyotes and stuff out here.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, just don't forget. Somebody has to be the headjackass.
So that's going to be a hit jackass.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, it's already taken. That's Steve.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And I had also gotten to the point like, okay,
what do you what do I name these animals? And
then I started thinking of some previous co workers in
law enforcement my agency. I'll think, you don't what. I
got a couple of names for jackasses.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But do you want to like you don't want to
give them something that you don't like, per se, you
want to give them a good name, loving name, like
a name of affection. Not a name of someone that
you didn't necessarily like.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Okay, for for decades, driving through the countryside, you see
a pasture and it's got donkeys in it, and I'd
always comment to my wife and go, look, it's a
staff meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's a jackass staff meaning I like this.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I always wanted one, and I wanted to name him
Donkey along before Donkey on Shrek was a thing. So well,
don't get.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Don't get if you get a girl, Okay, you don't want.
I think we've whatever. I think we've donked the hell
out of that ross. Let's move on to you. You
are you are a retired officer?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Correct? Correct?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Congratulations, thank you? How long you've been retired? The first
time I retired was twenty seventeen. Uh oh, there's a
catch to this. Yeah, and then the second time was
November of twenty one. You're trying to perfect retirement. First
one didn't work out too well. I got suckered back in.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I was going to say, you got lurid back in,
you got lwords back.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
In for the money and the glory, money and the
glory and the fame and all that. Yeah. Yeah, ended
up on nights for four years. Working twelves. Uh, there's
the glory part now. So how how long total did
you have in law enforcement? Twenty nine years? Twenty nine years?
What agencies did you work for?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I started as a child, I would say, at twenty
two years old in kenadall small cities south of Arlington.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah. I started there as a reserve for free. They
hired me full time.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Then I moved to what I thought was a bigger department,
which was Pantigo, where I did four years. Absolutely love
that city, but there's nowhere to go. There's no two
square miles. Yeah it is two point two square. There's
nowhere to there's no upward mobility wants. They have a
chief and one lieutenant.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
So a good friend of mine was working for Duncanville.
He said, come take our test and then I ended
up doing twenty years there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's awesome, and.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Then got lured back to another small agency here in
North Texas.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But you're done, now, completely done. I call it tea close.
But Tea Cole is gone. I let it slide.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It was hard to do, Oh my goodness, A lot
of I mean there are seventy eighty year olds out
there still have their sart I.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Planned way better. Well, and Brad, you your current officer, how.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Long you been in the profession About nineteen and a
half years.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I started out with ten years and one day at
the Dallas Police Department one day because they offered a
three thousand dollars retention bonus, and I made sure that
that cleared before I let him know that I was leaving.
And then I went to another small North Texas police
department the last nine and a half at this point.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
All right, very good. Any special assignments in any the agencies.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You're you're at, Yeah, right now.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I run our social media and deal with the media,
basically a PIO position, and I've done that for I
think eight of those nine and a half years.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Time it is you blink and it goes by. It does.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
But you know the PIO position. I played PIO for
the last seven or so years in my agency, and
that was it was climate controlled.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yeah, well, I remember, I remember everybody always, you know,
I mean in Dallas, in a bigger department, everybody not
having any any position that's not patrol, and your patrol
is everybody you know, they're upset with with, you know,
being the golden child or whatnot. But I don't know
anybody who's ever whenever I go on vacation or whatnot,
takes over the role. They're like, I don't ever want
(08:51):
to do this again, Like you can, please have this
fat That's fine, that's fine, take it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
What do you mean I get to do a press
release on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, no, oh, it's if there's an accident on the
freeway at three am. It's you know, you have to
answer the phone.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, that was the greatest thing. Whenever I retired, I
have my personal cell phone, have my city cell phone
and all the media contacts in it, and I'm like, here,
you guys can have this phone back ross any special
special CEMONSTUDI here ton man.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
People asked me what I did as a cop, and
I tell them everything they would let me do. So,
I mean, I was on SWAT, I was a SWAT
team leader. I was a what I call him marksman,
not a sniper. I did motors. I did SRO for
three years. I did personnel. I a I mean, wow,
(09:40):
Duncanville's only like sixty three sixty five officers, so you
wear a lot of hats. Yes, I mean at one
point I was I was the SRO sergeant, the traffic sergeant,
and the personnel and hiring guy and training so oh wow,
I handled all that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I mean, I had another officer work for me. But still, yeah,
you wear a lot of hats. You gotta learn to
say no. But what it does is yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
What it does though, is it lets you have a
pretty broad career. Yeah, pigeonholed into one thing. So yeah, no,
I I agree, I had that was one thing. There's
one point in time that I left patrol.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Took the PIO position, still investigated all fatality accidents, still
did crime saying, still an instructor, and yeah, you're smarter
agencies you end up. Yeah, you wear a ton of hats,
have a lot of responsibilities, and that's good. That breaks
up the monotony of the day today. It gives you
experience and other things. We just gotta be careful sometimes. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
One of the reasons you were mentioning before we started
about being in an office, and one of the reasons
I retired the first time is I had my years
and I was working narcotics, playing clothes. I just didn't
feel like a company more I didn't even know where
my radio was, right, I didn't My vest was.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Probably in a lot of somewhere about it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean I was doing a lot of cool things, bearded,
you know, all that stuff, but I just kind of
got burned out and I feel like I need to
go do something else in my life. Already had twenty
a little over twenty four years in the system.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So yeah, so that that option, that door is available
to you.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Uh, Brad, you you told me earlier you had you
had a rookie story.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I did. I was God.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
I think I was in my second phase of training,
so onto my second trainer, and he was a talker.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
He was an older guy.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I'd loved him to death, but he was the type
that you know, whenever you're going code like he would
literally if I was going through the schools and put
his coffee on the dash and be like, if you
spill that, you know you failed today. Like it was
kind of the old school, and he was super tough
at the time. Ended up becoming obviously, I think, like
they all do, you know, it's they all put on
kind of a you know, a massage. Here's you know,
(11:54):
I've got to be tough that but the most wonderful
man I attribute him to even on that short pase
saving my life.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
But we we went on this call. It was an
abandoned children call, and it was in. It was in.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
This was whenever I work Northeast and there's pockets of
Northeast where there's a lot of immigrants that come in
and and some and back then it was like, you know, rightfully,
so there everybody kind of stays together there, right So
entire apartment complexes are are all the same people that
speak the same language and you know, have the same culture.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
And we go to this call.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
We uh, you know, I've never answered an abandoned child
call before. I don't know anything about children. I don't
have children at this point. And he, you know, he's
he's raised to two or three, I think, two daughters.
And so we talked to the leasing officer and she's like,
somebody came in and one of the kids had walked
outside and he's just were in diapers.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
And we show up.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
She lets us in and there's three of just the
most precious kids that based on the way that they
studied us, you know, they kind of ran from us
at first, and you know, my trainer tapt hey, you
know you're you're six foot six. You need a giant,
giant squad, right, Yeah, And so I squat squatted down,
and it looked like, you know, one of them was
(13:09):
about ten years old, one was maybe five years old,
and the other was like three.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And they were alone in this apartment.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
And it is at this point that shift was a
four to twelve, so it was probably about ten o'clock
at night. And so I checked, there's nothing in the fridge,
there's no contact, and my trainer says, hey, I'm going
to go start talking to neighbors. I'm going to start
try f And this is before iPhones, this is before
you can push a button and find out who everybody is.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So he's like, stay here and entertain the kids, which
is the word like we've got right.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
So I go in and and the oldest is is
super mature and you know in some broken English, she
sits there and she brings her little brother up, the
five year old, and she's kind of pushing him towards me.
But you know, it's my belief at this point, like
maybe they've never seen someone like me before, let alone
in this in this uniform, and you know, she said
he the little boy finally spoke and said, you know,
(14:07):
what's your name? And uh and I said, oh, I'm
off for Brad and he giggled, and then he ran
off into the kitchen and the ten year old brings
me the little one that's in diapers, the baby, and
so I'm trying to hold a baby and the only
thing i know is to support its neck, I think,
And so I'm kind of bouncing it on my knee
and I'm building trust and I'm and I'm asking questions
(14:28):
and they she just doesn't understand, like it's anything. And
so I'm just staring at the door, waiting for my
trainer to come back to anybody to relieve me, right,
And it's and it's still that part of training where
everything's tense and I'm so scared I'm gonna screw up,
and I'm worried about everything. And the little five year
old who disparted around the corner runs back and he's
(14:49):
holding like a bag of baguets and he just in
the biggest smile, just screams, look.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It is offer bread.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And I like my heart just melted that this adorable,
sweet boy, who you know, we have no connection to
the entire world.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
We're here to help. Thank God.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You know that he's not scared of us and in
our uniforms and that we just because we don't look
like him. But it was just the sweetest, the sweetest
thing in the world. And I mean we were there
for a few hours at that point. I mean, you know,
mommy had to go to jail that night for you know,
abandonment of a child, which is uh, it became one
of once I saw that impact of that, and kind
of I knew that a lot of the senior officers
(15:26):
shied away from those calls because they take so long.
That I kind of took on a bunch of those calls,
especially once I had kids, because you know it it mattered, right, like.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, yeah, and something. Yeah, it's it's amazing. I've got
a similar story like that. You know, it's amazing. Sometimes
kids get left at home and mom and or dad
goes off to the club.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah it's in the car, in.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The car in the heat or in the cold.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah it's it's amazing, but it's unfortunate it does happen.
Oh yeah, I think just about every officer's got us
to worry.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It happens across across all classes and races, all everything.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's absolutely so you're ever going to be officer
Bread Bread.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
His daughter, his uh my trainer's daughter ended up becoming
a Dallas officer also, and she'll whenever she comments on
anything on my face, but it's always officer Bread.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Ready, that's gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Stick, That's gonna stick. I ever see, you are going
to be like Bread?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Now, Ross you had mentioned, you had mentioned pranks. Yeah,
you know.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
When I started, it was a totally different law enforcement. Yeah,
old scares. Yeah, I mean I would say old school.
I hate to be that guy.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Now that's like, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Back in the day.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But it was totally different.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It's changed dramatically in like the past ten twelve years.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
No dash cams, no body cams, no recordings, no I
mean evidence. Yeah really, but a lot of it was spent.
Like I said, I started as a child. I feel like,
you know, in kenadall I had did. I worked three
eight hour shifts and then got hired full time. And
I showed up at the station and there was no
(17:09):
one else at the station. I have my two rookie
bags full of books, you know, and I said, well,
who am I with? So they called the captain at home.
It was a Saturday, my first day three. They called
the captain at home and said, he's not with anybody.
Tell him get his butt in a car.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Did you have any training? Have you been through an academy?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Of course? Okay, okay, academy Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I was going to say, good God, no, no, no,
no fto.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I wrote with a guy who'd been full time cops
six months for three eight hour shifts, and then they
said hit the street. So I just did what all
rookies do when you first get cut loose. I drove
around in circles on the main roads off.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah. But with being that young and not having a
lot of adult.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Supervision, you tend to pull pranks on each other. And
it really started in Duncanville. I a coworker who I
love dearly, and we went to the it's a weird story.
I went back to the academy again. Duncanville wants everyone
to go to the same academy. So I graduated the
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basic academy with my intermediate because I already had all
my classes and all I needed was hours.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Did you have to take the State licensing and shame again. Okay,
I just stood in line with my tea cold card. Nice.
So but you got paid Friday coming from nights. Yeah,
got a bad gig. But my guy went to the
academy with I won't. I don't know if I should
mention his name or not, but officer X, officer, well
(18:39):
now he's chief X. Oh yeah, yeah, let's stay a no, no,
he's He's an amazing guy. I love him to death.
He was texting me yesterday. So he started with the
baby powder on the visor.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So eight and a half by eleven paper folded in half,
filled with baby powder, carefully put on the visor on
a sunny day so that when I got in the
car to back out of the station, hit the sun,
pulled it down all over the beautiful beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So then putting it in the air ducts.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So then I'm in the locker room with the hand
dryer with my uniform shirt off, trying to get all
the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So I got him back with the baby powder in
the ace events. Yes, oh yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, turkey baser full of baby powder and you gently
injected into the ace events and then you set everything
to max high you know, as soon as he gets
in and turns on.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
The key, that's better than pepper spray.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So this continues escalating, and then one day he's parked
at the station and you know the Crown vicks All
had fleet keys.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Key would open it. So I took a I took
two cans of the cheapest rose scented potpourri.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I could buy a dollar general, and I opened his
back door and I filled his car full of both
of those cans of Poepery spray.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
My lord. Yeah, yeah, but you know what, he probably
smelled good the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It probably smelled good the rest of the time he
had that car the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
This is Offbeat, the light side of law enforcement. Check
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Their numbers eight three three Cook DFW, the website, cookdfw
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Speaker 6 (20:33):
It's been fantastic time, been busy and uh, just trying
to stay organized, stay on top of everything.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Now, Daniel, we were hanging out not too long ago
at the Treehouse shows. They're what they referred to as
the Sunday Funday Roadshow, and they're at the road show,
you and your wife Carrie actually presented a check to
the RMS Treehouse Listener Foundation. And the Listeners Foundation has
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been around for a long time.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Uh.
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The foundation provides monetary donations to the family members of
our fallen police and firefighters here in the Dallas Fort
Worth there. He covers ten counties and just a very
very important foundation. And you, you and Carrie at Cook
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Listeners Foundation. I just I just want to say, you know,
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and the support you guys give to the foundation. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
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it needs.
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To be done.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
And uh, you know, Carrie for many years before we
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constantly figured out how to get back and we know
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that we supply to the tree house. I know a
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you know, everybody is on top of this and it's
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So we were very thrilled that we were able to
do that.
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The listeners made that possible, you know, when they call
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are making a valid effort trying to make sure a
percentage of our profits always go back to the RMS.
And so just a great day, good thing to see everybody,
and we're glad we were able to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, and you know, it's just it's phenomenal that that
you guys are active there with the foundation and your donations,
and it's it is so so very appreciated. Unfortunately, a
lot of my friends are survivors of fallen police officers
here in the Dallas foot Worth area, and several of
them have been recipients of those donations, and it makes
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it makes such a huge difference in their life at
a point when they should not have to worry about
finances after the tragic loss of their first responder. The
last thing, the last thing you want to have to
focus on in that situation is money that those those
donations go. They go so far to help them, help
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them cover their expenses while they while they begin the
grieving process. So Daniel think, thank you very much, passer,
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Speaker 1 (24:26):
And we're back back to more offbeat the light side
of law enforcement. Steve Here co hosts for Today Joe
and Jackson.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Hey y'all.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
We've got two guests joining us in studio. We've got
retired Officer Ross double Bauer. Yep, got it, got it.
Some names can be you know, challenging for me and you. Yeah,
I've butchered some names. Yes you have. I'm proud of
myself here.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
My joke is always they'll say what's your last name,
and I'll say double Bower and spelling right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'd be phonetically spelling that out.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And also joined us in the studio, We've got Officer
Brad up more, Officer Bread You're ready, Officer Breads in
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Officer Brad, did you have a missing person? No?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
We had you know how once you kind of find
what what you you're good at, which you like. Of course,
all my stories are from almost dead, like multiple decades ago,
because I.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Have a I have a desk job.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I admire everybody who goes out every day and answers
all the calls and the heat and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I'm just glad I don't have to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But nothing funny happens in.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
The nothing about Yeah, it's uh, but you know I
I kind of at a certain point somehow carved out
a niche for myself that I got really good at
death notifications and you know, so and and you know,
part of the reason I became a cop. I mean
obviously we were used to help people, right, we all know,
and to be a good person. I want to make
a change in the world.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Just don't say that in your world war right, yeah right,
yeah right, I'm arrest people.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But you want to you want to see things that
you're not supposed to see, and so you know I did.
We would.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
My partner hated it at the time, but we would
go to all the you know, the signal twenty seven's
the dead body calls and.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You know, like you're saying, you drive around and you
see an accident and you're like, oh, I wonder what happened?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Right right, Well, now become a cop and I put
that blanket over right.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
So I got really good at it, though, like I
you know, and it was good because like I said,
I uh, I found a way to channel it was
I could deliver it properly. Right, Like was I Baylor
University's two thousand and three Actor of the Year. Maybe
I was, but I'm not saying that I was acting.
But I knew how to control myself, how to how
to speak to someone like a human, right, Like That's
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always been my biggest thing. I never want to be
a police robot. I want to be a human. And
so I had kind of carved out this niche for
myself that and I had this whole rapport. It was
almost it was almost a skit, right, so much that
even when I went to my new department here, it's
like they said, we've got one today, like we think
you should do this in front of the rookie and stuff.
But one night in Northeast we happened to have I
(27:27):
think we had four or five homicides on the same night,
and so it was down on Ferguson. I remember in
an apartment complex there was like a double I don't
know if it was gang violence, I don't remember what
it was, but we had to deceased down there, and
since we were so busy that night, they had sent
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officers from Southeast right, which are a totally different breed
than officers in North of thirty right. They are they
have a different type of justice, they have a different
way of doing everything. So I show up on the
call and I'm absolutely ready to, you know, tell this
poor woman that her son has died. And you know,
I'm kind of going through the steps to make sure
I remember all this stuff to do. And she pulls
(28:09):
up and she's rightfully so she's losing her mind. Where's
my baby? Where's my baby? And I'm walking up and
I'm like, ma'am, hey there, And as I start to talk,
one of these Southeast sergeants walks right in front.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Of me and just goes he did, and I was like,
what did you just do?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Like I think I smiled because it was so out
of the blue, and you know, and then she starts
wailing and I'm looking and it's like I can't say anything.
I'm just a patrol and I can't say sir, sir no,
like And at that point, like I did a heel
turn and walked right back to the to breakrotect the scene,
like I had no. I didn't want to have to
(28:48):
deal with the refergustis for that.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But it broke by. I was like, oh, you poor thing,
like yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I was I was gonna try to make it as
it's never easy, but I was going to make it
as to where you remember something like you remember that
it wasn't just it was delivered properly.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, right like you say, yeah you have the things
you say and you know that effort was made.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, I could see his face was, yeah, that's something
you do not want to screw up.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No, I made a lot of notifications after working, you know,
fatality motor vehicle accidents. Then after we finished the scene
that to go notify the family and that yeah you
you know that you're about to change their life the
words coming out of your mouth, and yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
You know I I've had I became friends with a
dad in the town I work like. He he found
a way to reach out to me after fact, was
like can I buy you a drink at a place?
I just want to tell you how important that was,
like that that we weren't just a call that night, uh,
and that you you sat down with us, you delivered
it well. And he was he was a surgeon, so
he he had said, Uh, you know, I have to
(29:53):
do that to people too. And I like what you
did basically, and it was horrible news, but thank you
for And that's worry about something else instead of just
this horrible, horrible news.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, because you have to carry that burden with you,
Like it was one of our friends who told me
about Brian. And while I'm eternally grateful, I feel really
bad that he was the one who had to tell me.
It wasn't command staff, right right, So yeah, I mean
I'm grateful to him, but I still feel like it
left it leaves you guys with a burden too.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah right. My biggest takeaway from Brad's story
just don't say don't answer the door. Brad's on the board.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, hopefully I will never be on that again.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
If I see Officer brad Windows death, I'd just be
on go away, nobody's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Home and nobody's there.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I've seen some crazy reactions. I'm sure you have to.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
When I gave I was doing everything, trying to do
everything perfectly and all that. The guy just stood there
at the door staring at me, and he goes, okay, thanks,
I just close the door, like I was sting there
with a rookie like, oh, this is how you're going
to do it right. It was a dad and he
just said okay, thanks, closed the door, like no emotion.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
No, I guess it. It was like two or three
in the morning as well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
He was asleep and he was probably shocked and it
probably took a little bit to settle in.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And it's not what it was awkward for us. Walk
back to the car and he's like, what happened. I
was like, I don't know. You know, people handle it differently. Well,
we we had one we had one that we had
to do one evening and we we were calling one
of the one of the siblings if you will, and
you know, we would always go in person if if
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it was possible, and were contact agency that jurisdiction and
send them. In this particular night, we had one situation
where we needed to make it we need to make
a phone call. And it was two, you know, two
three o'clock in the morning and the family member answered
the phone said hey, you know, it's off brother and
my agency and stuff, and she's like, this is inappropriate
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time to call anybody and hung up.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I was like, okay, okay, should be a clue.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, so unfortunately we delivered in person to another family member.
That was that was the That was when we end
up calling medics on because the reaction was it was
a cultural, culturally diverse situation and there was a there
was a language barrier barrier as well and some religious
(32:29):
barriers there. So that was that was a different one.
But ill, Yeah, those were never easy and we go
back to talking about the dark side, the dark humor
and actually have to have fun at work because the
traumatic events. But that's traumatic, have to tell some of
their loved ones not coming home. So yeah, unfortunately, that's
that is part of the job. Don't forget you know
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what you signed up for, guys. Yeah, that's a wonderful one,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't remember that being in the job description.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, after you read it and you applied, then they
start adding stuff it wasn't there. It's like they update
the terms gone so yeah, updated terms by.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
The way, social media updates.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, no, Brad, you had you mentioned to me something
about games on calls.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
We did.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
We I mean, you know, you go on so many
calls that are just the same thing over and over
and over and got to spice it up.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, spice it up a little bit. And I remember, uh,
let's see, we were on it.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
It was a third watch, and uh, I had a
good buddy that he would partake in these with me,
especially even if it was a one man call. He'd
show up and one of our favorites. I used to
like to ironically wear oversized aviators like that was kind
of my thing.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
It was my dunge rights.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Tongue in cheek, like people would think I was being serious,
and that to me delighted me that you think I'm
that serious, right, Like I'm not the type of cop
that it plays bad boys. Whenever somebody calls right, that's
not me. You can tell by the way just everything.
But I would wear these aviators and we would we
would stand that, we would have the complaints stand in
front of us, and again with peace and love. These
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are property crimes. This is not anything serious, right, And
we would both have our glasses on and uh, and
I know this is radio and so I will have
to describe. But as I would ask her the first question,
I would dramatically remove my glasses like see, like it was, uh,
what is it with h what David dramatically, and I'd
be like, so, what time did this happen? And she
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would tell me and I'd write it down, and then
my partner on the other side would ask her a question.
And as I'm putting mine back on, as he's doing
the same thing, he's like, you didn't see anything? And
we would see who would get called out? How long
we could go? And it's so stupid and simple, but
we're just trying to make it through the shift, right,
(34:46):
And you can't laugh. That's the key because your partner
over there, he wants you to be the one to
screw up. So he's over there, you know, mugging you
and glaring at you. And no, it's you've got to
be dramatic about it, all right, Yeah, No, just happened
to have my Look, I've got mine right over there.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
We just happened to have some less These are like
ironically small, right, show us.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
How this how this looks? Brad h it's kind of
hard with the heads It.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Is hard with the headsets. We'll just do like a yeah,
what time did this happen? Like it you know, and
it's and and there their you know, you're you're really
taking their crime seriously, right, like just good.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You were taking it seriously, but you were having fun, right,
and it is.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yes, is this if having a If the BMV is
the worst day of your life, you've lived a pretty
good life.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
So agreed, you know it was it was it was harmless.
Those were the harmless little things.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Or so it makes me think of a story where
you're talking about taking things seriously but not taking them seriously.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We had a guy one time.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
There was a lady who lived in the city who
claimed every night someone came into her house and moved
things around. And everybody's had that one, right, So warmer
officers got tired of it.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And he was super senior.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
He was an old head like it took. It was
a battle to get him to wear a vest I mean.
So he went out to this house and he's like,
I'm gonna go handle this call. I'll take care of it.
So maybe a week later he gets called in because
her family complained because what he did is he told
her to take flour and spread it over all the
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floor and carpeting in her house to see if they
could see some footprints the next time she saw someone,
so her family, her family arrived. Yeah, her, her family
arrived and her whole house is covered in flowers and
shuffling around in it.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
For a week, the prints in it.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But of course the funniest thing is he didn't tell
anybody about it. Yeah, he didn't go and that's what
I did.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
It was totally silent.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Then of course you can't help but laugh, but you
also feel bad for the family they have to clean
this mess up.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I just heard a story about that the other day
about was on one of the law enforcement pages about
they set up a baby cam named nanny Cam and
there was someone actually living in her attic. It was
an elderly woman living in her attic, coming down and
doing things. And that's that's scary, because, I mean, you
read stories about people in crawl spaces and basements and addicts.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
And you want some funny here, Joe, I know where
you heard that story where I told it on the
road show at the Treehouse.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Did you to it?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
You think someone's living your as what I read it
online too. I think I think it's like a common story.
It's kind of like the alien fighting.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, we had some FO Wurth officers on and yeah,
they complaint was an elderly lady. I mean she was
elderly but still at a part time job. So she
would leave her house for you know, go to work.
She had called because she said, I'm finding things, you know,
I'm finding things out of place. I'm finding dishes in
my sink. So officers responded many, many times, and they
(37:57):
finally got the family involved. They're starting to go for
professional help for her. Anyways, baby monitor of all things
gets installed in there. And apparently this range must have
been pretty good because they did refer to it as
a baby monitor. She leaves for work one day, she's
right down the end of the street. She pulls it up.
There's a guy inside her house. And this guy gold
to find out I've been living in the attic for
(38:18):
the last two weeks. And he'd wait for her to
go to work. Then he would come down. That's creepy.
That's check your addic.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Super creepy.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Might not be squirrels.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I wasn't hot right now.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, and he went to my attic. They're going to
be dead, or are the dead or they're going to
be dead.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Well, if you notice see an odor coming from your attic.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
God, no, I don't want any of that foolishness.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
I was called out one time to have seen to
be a chimney expert. What A sergeant called me out
and said, we have a guy here. The lady had
a family living in her chimney, oh supposedly, And so
he called me out and he's like, roll with it.
So we went in and he's like, this is Officer
double Bower. He's a chimney like sweep. Well, he's just
like a chimney expert on families that live in chimney.
(38:58):
So he's going to check it out for us, And
so I did. I got down and opened the flu
and looked up in the room.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
My flash law. I was like, no, they've all moved out,
and she was happy. She just needed an expert on
thinking outside of the box. I was hoping, we're gonna
hear a story about you putting on the harness and
then lowering you don't know me or something.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's funny. It's like Dave's alien story.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yes, we we've had an alien story. We'd again and
this happened. Where what did you see you for?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Westerly, Rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Okay, up in the Rhode Island, they get tied up,
They get tied up quite a bit because the same color,
same complaint calls all the time. There's ailing in my house,
there's aiding in my house. This goes back to a
previous episode. I want to see six seven somewhere around there.
And he and his partner go in there, and so
where's this alien at sitting on you know, sitting on
(39:44):
the edge of the bed. And anyways, they go inside
the room and this partner Earli SI said just go
with it, gets in there and they just starts yelling saying, hey,
you better get better get out, and then across the
bed starts a fight with him alien. And then find
the yells of this partner, hey, get the window, get
the window, open up the window. He runs over there
(40:06):
and throws the alien out and then yells out the
window and don't ever come back. Then they close the window,
and ladies like, thank you, thank you so much. Officers,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
You've never had another problem outside the box? Yep, yep, yep.
I mean, who who you don't go to work expect
to fight aliens for crying out loud?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
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We're joined with retired officer Ross double double Bauer. Yep,
perfect double Bower. You've got a master now I'm buying
a lot of ticket today. Uh. And we've got where
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firefighters here in the Dallas Fort Worth area. Very important
and the foundation exists only on donations. So if you
feel so lad, I would encourage you to make a donation, Joanne.
We what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Brad's breaking things that.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Help out. We're trying to concentrate. Brad's on the end,
he's just tearing.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Up the studio.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Are you Fidget will go when this came out? All right?
Concentrate everybody, concentrate?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
And where can you Where can you listen and view
our show?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
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Speaker 2 (43:50):
All the stuff.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
If you got a story you'd like to come on
the show and come in studio and share with the
with the listeners, send us an email Offbeat Show at
gmail dot com. Again, that's Offbeat cop Show at gmail
dot com. I'd love to have you in the studio.
All right, We've got We're going to close out here
with a couple of couple of stories. Ross, I'm a
(44:13):
little apprehensive about this one. You have a story about
a little person. I mean, what cop doesn't have a
little person story, Ross, I don't have a little person story.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Neighboring agency their jails under remodel, so they're transporting their
prisoners to our jail. So I get a call to
assist a neighboring agency, is it, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, only need a little jail. Just need a little jail.
I just need a small, small jail.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Really, they just needed to sell, right, so's right, cover
my name and so.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Like I get, I.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Gets to help with an unruly intoxicated prisoner, and so
I show up in the sally port and it's so
this neighboring agency officer happens to be probably one of
the smallest officers I know that I worked with, just
you know, maybe five four one hundred and fifty pounds
(45:16):
may or fifteen pounds maybe, just a small guy. So
he goes to get his unruly intoxicated prisoner out and
it's a little person and he's in handcuffs and he
is mfing and fighting and everything. So imagine, God, imagine
imagine the two of us trying to drag this guy.
We're not going to do the fingerprinting process. It's not
(45:36):
going to happen. So we get him to the cell
and open the door and both of us are We've
got the handcuffs off of him now, so he's really fighting.
So we're trying to get him in there. And if
you can imagine we're you're also you don't want to
be rough. I mean, you don't want to like grab
a dude like you would a big burly biker guy
(45:57):
and hammer him into the cell. So we're sitting there
going back and forth, and this other officer has him
in the door and we've got him inside, and the
guy reaches around and grabs him right around the knees,
so if you imagine, his height is like knee height,
and he grabs him around the knees, and then that
officer falls on top of me and we fall into
(46:19):
the jail hallway, and then the guy gets out of
the jail cell. So now we're in the main hallway
trying to get this little person back under control, to
get him back into the cell. But seeing the other
officer with his arms waving like what he's got someone
wrapped around his knees, it's not something you would ever expect.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
To see, for sure.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
I just.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
You lost Joanne I did a minute, you know, moments ago.
She's been over here trying to hide her laughter. Uh,
you're crying. Okay, So I am to understand that you
and this other officer got taken by a little person.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
We did, Yeah, but we finally got him wrangled up,
got him where he needed to be. Yeah, finally chased
him down, got him where he needed to go. And
I'm gonna say he.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Was using his eyes to his advantage for sure. Yeah,
you're thinking of the themes, so to Mario brothers. Aren't you.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Just having visions of childhood stuff.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Childhood stuff, love little people in your childhood? Oh? Okay, yeah,
I'm I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
I mean, the best part is we didn't have to
strike him or punch him or anything. I wouldn't want
to punch someone that is normally it wouldn't be someone
you would appropriately punch.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Yeah, that's a good see.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And who and who like who wouldn't who else wouldn't
you punch?
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:57):
I probably wouldn't. I don't know, Officer Brad. Yeah, it
had to. I mean, cross just kind of just did
you hear that? Boss? Back it up?
Speaker 5 (48:10):
No, we had a we had a call an uptown
which is uptown Dallas, which is super nice part of town.
Obviously a lot of money there clean not a lot
of not a lot of issues. And uh and we've
got a report that there was a burger in progress
of one of these town homes. And these were on
the outside, these townhomes look like something you'd find in
Italy or something, right, super super nice, super luxurious. But
(48:33):
I guess they were renovating the one that they had
seen someone breaking into. So it's a two three men
call show up with you know, three.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
One men unit units.
Speaker 5 (48:43):
We all show up and we kind of go inside
and it's something from at that point I can only describe.
It's like it's so luxurious on the outside and you
walk in and it's something in Stranger Things terms. It's
like the upside down. There is no carpet, there is
no there's nails everywhere. It's just, uh, it's it's it's creepy, right,
and it's still it's late afternoon, so the shadows are
throwing stuff. So we we all have to like crawl
(49:05):
in to a broken dorks of the doors were boarded,
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
It looks like a horror house.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Uh, So we all kind of crawl in and and
meander our way through. And we get inside and and
it's dark, and you know, there's dust everywhere, and our
flashlights are shining. You know that it's enough that the
you can see the dust particles. And my partner elbows me.
And there's somebody sleeping on the couch and long, long
(49:32):
white hair, very very looks very teeny, kind of frail,
kind of I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
It was creepy. Right, This is the stuff that you
never think, right, I'm yeah, I'll check that.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I do that.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Yeah, Friday the thing, I'm like, hey, y'all got that person,
I'll check upstairs, right. So I go upstairs, and obviously
I'm a larger person. I remember the partner described it
as like anytime I take a step, like you could
see the wood creek and the dust fall down. And
it was just and so I'm up there and I
found I start to find a bunch of purses that
were empty, and I was like, oh, we got maybe
(50:06):
a PERSI for something. About that time, I hear my
partner yell down up more, get down here. We've got
a live one. So I take off run and I
run down the stairs around the corner and there's this
elderly woman, I mean like a band. She has one
handcuffed on and the other one they haven't been able
to secure it, and so it's like a talon and
(50:27):
she's lashing out at these two other officers just attack right,
and they're kind of keeping her at bay. I mean,
look said, whenever we saw you couldn't tell if it
was a man woman. It was just creepy. So oh yeah,
and this woman's screaming at the top of her lungs.
And like I said, band, she's the best word. And
so I run up to kind of join the fray
(50:49):
and I look at her and I go, hey, stop,
and I start to reach and I grab her wrist
and at that second she rears back and she squarely
kicks me in what some might go the testicle, right,
exactly right, and I'm you know, I'm not wearing my
cup that day.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
And but.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
And with with no thought, with no reaction, I slug
her across the face and she hits the ground to
the point that I remember comically looking. I remember like
the other officers were in like this triangle, and I
remember looking down and then like looking up at him
(51:30):
and then he puts down and looks up at her,
and then he turns and looks at the other officer,
and we're standing there and I'm like, did I kill
this person? Because Barry, it does not look good, right,
And I'm already freaking out. I mean at this point,
I've only you know, I got five years on I mean,
I got to uptown like if I'm on days, and so,
uh so we call an ambulance, of course, immediately start
(51:52):
the supervisor. We're like, well, let's get her out of
here somewhere. So they removed some stuff from the from
the door so we can get out the front door finally,
and we kind of lift her up and we handcuff her.
We feel we finished the job on that, and so
we're kind of carrying her, you know, just like a
dummy almost, And so I've got kind of her one
side of her.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Wrist, got her legs.
Speaker 5 (52:13):
We start walking through the door, and uh female officer
holds open the door for me and the male officer,
And as we get there, the bansheet starts screaming again
and thrashes so violently in this house that there's a
piece of wood that it goes. I mean it look again,
horror movie. Think that blood is splashed across the wall.
(52:35):
And now as she's thrashing, she because this house is
so dilapidated. Now she has a spike in her head
and she's screaming at the top of her head, and
again this is we. Ambulance arrives. The homeowner shows up
and he says, I'm not pressing charges on this. There
is no offense here. Let like, let that person get treated.
(52:56):
It's okay, everything's going to be fine, and please don't
he's yeah, just just.
Speaker 4 (53:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (53:03):
So, you know, we check with the supervisor and it's like, okay,
well just let her, let her, let her go and
let her get checked out.
Speaker 4 (53:09):
So we uncovering.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Of course, she assulted you.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
She she did, well, she did.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
But at this point I don't remember if there was
another circumstance here as to but she takes out, she
takes the spike out, she flips off the ambulance, flips
off us, and walks away.
Speaker 4 (53:28):
And that was that.
Speaker 5 (53:30):
So when my kids, this story has only come up
when my children have said, you know, Dad, it's not
okay to hit women, right, I'm like, absolutely, like we do.
We we put women on a pedestal, We protect women,
we take care of women. And my oldest is it's
that look in his eye, like what if it's.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Elderly.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Yeah, And I don't remember the details of the and
it may have been one of those things of hey,
I just want to go home. I want to put
some ice on this thing like that. That matters a
little more than the stomach than an arrest.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Right, Yeah, you know, I think there's a lesson to
be learned here. If Officer Brad shows up at your door,
answer answer.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
Don't have a way for me to crawl in, right.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Like Dave, Dave's not here.
Speaker 4 (54:20):
It used to be action packed. It's not the last decade.
And that's fine.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
That that's that's good and we're all still here absolutely, guys.
Thanks for coming on the show today, Brad Ross. It's
been a pleasure having you on.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
What was his last name again? Look at dot.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
Double bower, double bower. Alright, all right, I can't wait
until John Smith comes on the show. All right, guys again,
it is a pleasure having you on. Guys. Till next time,
keep it real, keep it funny, stay safe, and watch
each other.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
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