@opelikacitygov Mayor Gary Fuller recaps City Council meeting @ONTHEDMARK1

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We did a great job of basicallysaying, just because you don't win a

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championship doesn't mean you failed. Youknow, just because you're not the MVP
doesn't mean you failed. And thenShaq comes on and says, why I
come from a different background. Icome from a military family. If the
mission wasn't accomplish, the mission failAnd it was just a fascinating conversation between
Hall of Fame athletes regarding what constitutesfailure, what doesn't constitute failure, what

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constitute success, what doesn't. Andyou know, Barkley did a great job
basically saying, I'm from the projectsof Leeds, Alabama. I thought he
was one of those wealthiest people inour culture, much less the world.
He said, I didn't win achampionship, but I wouldn't call me a
failure. Well, I don't thinkShack was saying that you are a failure
if you don't win a championship.It's the mission was a failure. And

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there's a big difference there. Butit was just a fascinating conversation that was
started by Giannis regarding well, thisconcept, and we're gonna bring you mister
two years clinic on the Hamilton's heighthlineHamilton's with two cut locations of serve and
what the pad clinic has two locationsto serve you over here in opal like
and then Alma tay, good morning, good morning. How are you fine?

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We missed you last week? Tea. Yeah, you know. Unfortunately
I was at a conference, soI got to go to those every once
in a while. When I wasat UAB, I forgot to tell Jeff
you'd be calling Thursday, so Jefdidn't know to reach out. That's my
iok, I took the blame.I took the blame. Mister Rusenthal,
mister Myers was just giving us aDid you hear the end of that conversation
what he was saying? Yeah?I did, and I you know,

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I heard the the comments that ledto the post game interview where that comment
was made about the failure. Sowho's your thought? I mean, you
know, I tend to uh,you know, I agree with Barkley.
I mean, you're not a failure. You can you can be a success.

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And and the team not reached theirgoal, that doesn't mean you failed.
But it's it's just but but butthen I also see shacks. Ultimately,
every team plays to win a championshipand if you don't win, then
you're you failed. Um, soI just think it's a it's a question

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with no right answer. Uh youknow, you you talked to one hundred
people. If you probably say yeah, they failed, if they would say,
well, at least they got tothe playoffs, so, um,
you know, ultimately did they fail. Yes, they didn't win the NBA.
There you go. But this iswhat I'm trying to say. But
that you know, no, Iunderstand a lot of there's a lot of

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athletes who never won a championship whodid. Yes, it's fine, and
we're very successful. And I don'tknow if you heard the whole context of
what Mayer said that they and yousaid you heard that exchange. But the
change last night on TV is isit? Yeah? I heard him talking
about yeah mission. Shaquille said,yeah, it was a failure because they
failed in the mission and right,but it didn't mean yeah, but it
didn't mean you a failure as aplayer as a person personally, Yes,

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yeah it did fail. There yougo, There you go. So that
is well said. I like that. And by the way, t I
think you gotta be talking either aboutteam wise you could you could have an
individually that's individual kind of what hewas saying. If you if you score,
if you're averaging, yeah, ifyou're the MVP and your team Terry
agree, disagree same, Yeah,I mean yeah, I like like I

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said, plenty of players have succeededin their teams have failed. Absolutely.
Um I agree with that. Iagree with that the team failed, the
players succeeded. There you go,different things. There, that's it.
There you go, and I agreewith I understand what Shaq is saying,
and I also understand what Barkley issaying. So and I understand what both
of you are saying. So thereyou go. All right, Terry,

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the Not for Long League had theirdraft. Did you check it out?
No? I had a we hada dinner live. Well, mean,
but have you looked at the listthough? I mean briefly? Okay,
all right? The and I gotChris in here, umu. The Falcons
they drafted a running back at numbereight. Chris says, Chris, what's

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your thoughts on that? You said, basically, what that would need?
What was your Their philosophy has alwaysbeen the best player on the board,
you know, was Bijon the bestplayer. Well, according to the Falcons

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he eat is so yeah, bestplayer. And you also said with a
piece of the puzzle they needed,right, didn't you say something about when
we were talking off the mark abouttheir champion. Well, for me,
the GM job in the coach's jobhas evolved over the years to where I

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believe it's more pressing to win quickand fast now than improved these years.
Yeah, yeah, good point.Tell you got any thoughts on that right
there? I mean I I wouldnot draft a running back with the eighth
pick. Yeah, we were talkingabout that unless unless there is a generational

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talent like a Barry Sanders or anEmmett Smith. I would not waste probably
a first round pick on a runningback. They don't last in the league
anymore. The game's too physical.I mean, you know, look at
three or four years ago, EzekielElliott was the best running back in the
league. Now he's broken down back. Yeah. To me, you go

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out get a running back, andyou go out and get a running back
in the fifth or sixth round,and you draft someone you know, you
draft a big, physical receiver,or you draft a pass rusher if you've
got a top ten pick, oryou draft an offensive tackle, completely agree.
That's just me. No, heagreed with that. He was just
trying to salvage that pick, iswhat he was trying to do with what
they did. Yeah, the Falcon'sphilosophy, as they brought up, was

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the best player. I am personallyI wouldn't have picked um Bijean either,
but yeah, I was just kisingwe we we've talked about that before.
Terry and Chris agreed. If ifyou know, if their scouting department had
you know, everybody grades their playersand they've got their board, if if
they ranked him as the best playeron the board and he fit a need,

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I see why they that's what theysaid they did too. Yep.
You know, I'm not sure who'srunning their scouting to port and if they
thought he was, you know,the eighth best player in the country,
I know, so that that raisessome questions. But I mean there were
a lot of things. You know, Uh, one of the ESPN gurus
you know that. Of course theyknow so much. That's why they're working

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for ESPN is not a general man. He had Levin's going forth and Levins
didn't even get picked in the firstround. So it's you know, so
much more plays into it than fansrealize when you start looking at you know,
off the field stuff, work ethic. You know, it's just a
guy that's going to come to OTA'she going to be. You know.

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For as corny as the movie TheDraft was with Kevin Costner, if you've
ever watched that movie, um,you know it was corny and and a
lot of what happens in that movieis not what happened in the real world.
But that the off the field stuffvery much does play in the general
managers minds and having guys that arecommitted to working out, coming to being

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a leader, especially at that position. And for whatever reason, you know,
Levin's may have had the physical tools, but apparently some teams weren't sure
about the other things. So there'sa lot of draft experts out there.
But again, if they were thatgood, they'd be and they'd be Super
Bowl champions. Yeah, you're righton that. You're right on that.
Um, Alabama had two players prettyearly Bryce Young's that surprised you at all.

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No, I mean, you know, consistently he was considered to be
the best quarterback on the board.Um, you know, they think his
game, I think translates a littlebetter. Uh, to the NFL.
You know the guy, the Richardsonguy that went forth. That's just a
total. That's a wild card.You're bringing in an athlete and hoping you
can get you me into being anaccurate pastor because he was not accurate in

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college. Um. And you know, the Stroud kid. I think he
probably fits what the Texans want todo. He's a little, I think,
a little bigger than than um thanYoung from Alabama. UM, But
I think I think Young was thebest quarterback for a team that needed one
in the NFL. Now, howthat pounds out? You know, there's

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been a lot of questions about hissize and uh, can can he be
taught to get down and not takethe hits in the NFL? Um?
You know, he didn't get hita lot in college, but he's gonna
get hit a lot in the NFL. Uh? Is he smart? Does
he get down? Does he getrid of the ball? Um? You
know, not try to hold onto it too long and make some plays.
That's that's all remains to be seen. But I do think he was
the best quarterback on the board.There you go, Terry Rosenthal with us

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or Peter clinic. Uh at studio, we're on the Hamlet line going over
the draft. Uh. I'll tellyou, I didn't notice that Iowa had
some players in there and they lostfive games. I was just looking at
that. That was interesting to mebecause you know, that goes back to
our conversations success successful season. Ifyou watched Iowa, they lost a lot

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of games, like fourteen to ten. They had a really good defense.
Okay, you know Iowa traditionally hassome of the best corners in the country.
Um, you know, be ascheme or they coach them up.
They traditionally are very good at dBUH and they're very good on the offensive
line. So it doesn't surprise me. That's a school that you know.
And also you know, I thinkIowa stay they had a linebacker going the

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top ten. So you know,there's those diamonds in the Texas Tech head
a kickers, so you know,there's well Northwestern, that kid from Northwestern
that tackle East. Yeah, soyou know there's there's those diamonds in the
rough. Just because someone plays ona you know, not that great a
team, but if they've you know, they kid from Northwestern played in the

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Big Ten. Again, some gooddefenses and obviously impressed people and held his
own So that doesn't surprise me.Again, like I said, Iowa was
one of the better defensive teams inthe country last year, and it's always
good on the offensive line, sothat doesn't surprise me. Yeah, good
point on that. And I waslooking down. What about Deontay Banks from
Maryland? Terry, Let's see,my Giants took cornerback. You know much

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about that cat? I don't knowanything about it. Yeah, but I
mean he's probably pretty good. Ifthe Giants, you know, took him
in the first round. Yeah,four three forty, that's he can fly.
I did see that. You know, other than receiver and defensive line,
you know, that's our pass rusher. You know, corners probably the

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most important position out there. Youget a guy who can lock down a
number one receiver, then that goesa huge in your defense. So if
they felt he was a good corner, he must have been. Well,
good point on that. Yeah,any other what you said, you didn't
go through it, so I didn'tget to watch ida then, and then
by the time I got home,it was to hang it up for the

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night. There you go understand that, all right? So we had Alvin
Briggs On earlier, we were goingover an Alvin's doing good. He's doing
good. He might need another injection, you know what I mean. He's
back with boy, but he's doinggood. We were going over Championship series
is and it's wide open. They'rein the middle of tennis. Now they're
fixing to get real heavy. Ithink it's gonna be really interesting to see

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these baseballs. How central and whathow long was Smiths they alive? All
those start today across Alabama. Youknow the seven eighty six eight moves on
in the second round one through sixA. Yeah, you know it'll be
interested in. This is where thedepth of pitching that we talked about all
year is going to come into play. When you've got to go out and
win two out of three and doyou do the college philosophy where you if

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you've got a really good ace andthe other team has a good ace,
do you sacrifice game one and throwyour ace in game two and try to
get a split and then let anythinghappen in game three. So pitching depth
is going to come to the forefrontright now, and those teams that have
it are going to be the onesthat business. Yeah, it's it's it

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always that. Yeah, you're rightabout that when it comes to that.
And it looks like Cinchil's got apretty good group. You know. Um,
I don't know how you go throughall what they went through. They've
got a good group of pitchers,you know what I mean. So to
do what they've done, they maywin it back to back. Terry.
Well, yeah, I mean,for it's all about throwing strikes. You
don't have to throw hard. Butif you've got guys that come in and

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pound the strike zone and you're notgiving a lot of free passes, you
got a chance to be very successful. Yeah. You know, guys can
put the ball in play. Ifthey're hitting it right at somebody, it
doesn't mean much. Well, thatis a good point. There's a good
point on that. Jeff said,the Braidsers gonna win one hundred and nine
games. Terry. Yeah, theymight, they might not, right,

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it is early in the season,Terry. You're just not gonna call that.
Come on, Jeff, you gotTerry on your side over here,
now, ye I know. Ijust I just feel like this team at
least hold on, Terry, whatwill run off twenty five in a row

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and they lose twenty five. Idon't think they'll do that, but yeah
it's possible. You never know that, Terry feel what do they need?
Terry? All those guys on theIL back, I haven't even been see
outside of the Yankees. I don'twatch Mark, So yeah, what about
your Yankees? My dad would bekeeping me up with Tell me about the
Yanks. They used to give himfits. I think they're like sixteen and

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ten. But you know they theygot three of their starting five on the
DL, so they're piecing it togetherright now. Okay, five, how
you got, Jeff? We gotyou know, three of their starting five
pictures? Oh, three of thefive? Oh my bad? That that
three of the five pitchers? Mybad? I thought I said in five
total. And they got more playersposition players on the L as well.

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So do you like the team?Yeah? I do. I think it's
a good mix. If they canget these pictures back home run hitters.
Well they got judged, Oh well, yeah, they don't need anybody else.
Well, they got stating, buthe's on the DL. Well,
didn't injuries happened last? Didn't y'allget a bunch of injuries last? Get
hurt every year? Yeah, yeah, I just saw we had, but

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everybody does. Yeah, you're right, you know what I do. We
have a new stolen base leader inAlabama. Didn't know that, junior Tylan
Amerson brake say HSA stolen bass record? How about that? I didn't see
that till right now. Amerson isnew HSAA record holding for stolen bases.
After swiping four basses and the majorEmerson win last weekend, he has eighty

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six steals. His junior year,y'all eighty two was the record. Now,
that's a bunch of basses to bestolen. Amerson played in thirty three
games and he stole eighty six.The other young man played in forty games
and stole eighty two. Guys,Myers Wood, Jiff, Terry. That's

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pretty strong. You know, ifthe Braves had him, they might one
one hundred and nine games. That'sa lot of bases right there. Guys,
that's a combination of a lot ofspeed and not much arm behind the
play. Probably probably Terry. Youknow about this guy, No, I
mean, I haven't heard anything abouthim, but that's impressive. It is
impressive. That's what they were thirtyone and four. They're set to play

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the day. But that's interesting thathe had that mini Stonn basically just popped
up. You don't see he's ajunior. I'll say this, he can
go to MLB with his speed rightthere, just like uh Rodney Lindsay did
here at o'blacka right. Speed countsno storm bases, storm bases and as
big a part of the games itused to be. And the only time

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speed really comes to those guys comingto play now is at the end of
the year when they expand the rostersand you need a pinch runner late in
the game. Now, you know, it's just not the same game it
was back when you had Ricky Hendersonand Vince Coleman and those guys. Teams
steal occasionally, but not like theyused to. I wish they would again,
Terry, Oh, absolutely, Butit's you know, everything now it's

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a it's a home run. It'swell, yeah, you know, you
don't how many teams hit and run. How many teams you know, sacrifice
bunt? Not many? Well here, okay, very good point. And
another and another thing I'm just gonnatalk about. They talk about the shilf.
Well, why do you have tohave a rule about the Shilf hit
it to the opposite way, andthat I mean, just let him line
up seven. And I remember yearsago when I used to listen to radio

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as a child in Atlanta, DaveBristol was the coach of the Braves,
and I remember Malo Hamilton. Yougotta give Dave Bristol credit. He moved
to short stopover a second base overand they've grounded into a six four,
you know, a double play becausehe did the shift in the game,
and I'm thinking all he had todo is go the opposite feel well,
same way I feel about today's game. You know what, you may feel
different, Yeah, but the gameis coached different now at the at the

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lower levels and became as of that. It's hard to get a guy to
change his swing. And you know, if I mean even back then,
hitting the opposite field is not thateasy. Not everybody can do it.
And again, the game at thelower levels is coached differently now. So
you get a guy who's setting hisways is twenty five years old. He's

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not gonna change his swing. Imean he'll he'll make minor tweaks to a
swing, but you know he's notgonna go against that. So I agree
that that that the shift shouldn't havebeen out on. I mean, you
know, lay a bunt down thethird baseline if you don't want to be
in a shift something like that.But I'm just telling you, like everything
else, the game has evolved andall games change, um, and it

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starts with the youth level and teachingkids the right way. And unfortunately a
lot of these travelball coaches and allthat, they're not you know, they're
just to cattle call, rolling kidsout there, play as many games as
possible. They're not necessarily coaching themand teaching them the fundamental I don't know
if we see a bunnet, there'syears from now it may return to small
ball again. They could, youcould. I mean, you've you've got

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high level football teams, you know, talking about you know, running power
rise again. Well that is true. I've seen that you have. Because
the defenses aren't built for him anymore. Everything ebbs and flows. It's called
a life. Yeah, you know, but and you know, staight,
I bet now at both y'all wegot a big term at west Ridge.
I'd be interested to see how manybuns are laid down in that whole complex

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this weekend I bet as zero,less than five. I'd say less than
five. I'd take under it'll beit'll be um. It won't be many.
But you know, you know,go you doctor Meyer's talking about the
power. I think you will seesome team, especially in college, go
to that, especially with the newclock rules. If you can grind it
out on the ground, go ona ten minute drive and eat the clock,

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and you're playing Alabama or someone likethat, why wouldn't you. You
got to keep the ball away fromthose explosive offenses. You probably will see
some teams go to go to moreof that um out of this fast paced
you know rpo. I think that'sone reason why Alabama went the way they
did with their new offensive coordinator.I think coach Saban was a little tired
of his defense. You know,the great high scored off, but you're

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getting beat at the end because yourdefense is wore out, worn out because
they're on the field, you know, for eighty plays. So you know,
he gouldn't got an offensive coordinator whowho's big power run game, Throw
to the tight ends and just controlthe clock and we'll see how it works
out. He won a Minia championshipdoing that Terry, I agree with you
one hundred percent. I read allabout that. Is it right how you

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say his name Tom Reese was gonnasay, I read all of you are
exactly right that it does appear whatcoach Saban is going to do is go
back to his original way of tryingto control the clock. You are so
right. He looked miserable over there, scoring sixty and giving up sixty five.
Well, and especially he doesn't havethe depth he used to have because
the transfer port correct. He usedto be able to do that a little

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bit more defensively, let his defensebe on the field that much because he
could roll you know, he couldpull out four or five stars on the
defensive line and roll out you know, three, three more five stars in
a four star and rotate them.You don't have that depth anymore. So,
you know, if you want guyswho are ready to play, uh,
you don't have nine or ten anymorebecause they've transferred out. So you've

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got to protect those guys, getthem some rest so they're ready in the
fourth quarter. And I think that'swhat I think that the game's gonna evolve
back to more of that because teamsaren't gonna have the depth like they've had
on the defensive lines to even youknow, Georgia, Ohio State, they've
all had players transfer out. Ifyou're if you're not gonna be starting.
So I think you will see,uh, teams try to change it up

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on offense and go to more youknow, teams are still going to throw
it around, but I think they'regonna try and go to a little bit
more ball control and not be inthose seventy to sixty five games. Yeah,
unless you're the Big twelve, becausethey don't play the defense in the
Big twelve. Very true, verytrue. But I do agree with what
you said on that style, andI agree with that the clock does not

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stop what in the last two minutesof the second in the game, right
when on the first down, it'llit'll stop on the first down in the
last two minutes. But I mean, if you're if you just grinding out
first down after first down, youevery first down, you know you can
take two minutes off the clock.So you know, if you go fifty
yards, you ate up ten minutesat least. That's just in play clocks.

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Oh, you're right, and thenyou the time of the plays and
all that. So well, it'sgonna get interesting to go. All right,
how's the family tailor? Man?He has grown so much that graduation
fishing good gracious Terry. Yep,man, well yeah he has, I
know you proud of that. Hefixed me get a big old raise.
Yeah, he's got four more daysof classes and then a couple of finals

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and he's done. There you go. Well, good job and risks of
doing all right, yep, she'sdoing well. Good deal. And the
first lady, how's she doing.She's doing wonderful. It's all out of
trouble. I ain't no doubt aboutthat, Terry. We appreciate you,
bud, all right, thanks forwhat you do, yes, sir,