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November 12, 2025 7 mins
Andrew Mountbatten Windsor’s royal downfall just got worse—he’s now outranked by Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie and may soon need a hyphen to regain his dignity. As Palace aides debate whether to reattach the “Mountbatten-Windsor” dash, insiders say Christmas plans are in chaos, Anne is cracking jokes in Australia, and Ghislaine Maxwell is allegedly getting VIP treatment in prison.

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Calorogus Shark Media. Hello and welcome to Pallace Intrigue. I
am your host, Mark for Ancis. By the way, we
are continuing to do these bonus episodes every afternoon for
the foreseeable future. It seems like you are enjoying them,
and there's plenty of news coming out of Buckingham Palace

(00:25):
to support the extra show. So from now on we'll
currently be dropping two shows a day to Palace Intrigues,
one around three am Eastern, the second around noon Eastern,
and we hope you are enjoying and thank you for
supporting this show. King Charles unprecedented decision to strip his

(00:45):
brother of all royal titles has left Andrew mount Batton
Winsor not only without his dukedom or his Royal Highness status,
but now outranked by his own daughters. Under new royal protocol,
Andrew must bow to Princess be At Truss and Princess Eugenie,
who have retained their titles and the style of her
Royal Highness. Royal biographer Robert Hartman told The Daily Mail

(01:08):
that Andrew probably will follow the custom, though not happily.
Buckingham Palace is reportedly mulling a punctuation change that could
add a small dash of dignity back to Andrew Mountbatten
Windsor's name. Literally, officials are said to be reconsidering whether
the disgraced royal's surname should include the hyphen, making an

(01:30):
Andrew mount Baton dash Windsor in line with the late
Queen Elizabeth's formal decree. The potential revision follows growing concern
that the Palace may have ignored Her Majesty's explicit nineteen
sixty declaration that her descendants without royal titles should bear
the family name mount Baton dash Windsor. The rule was

(01:51):
designed to honor Prince Philip, who had long grumbled that
he was the only man in the country not allowed
to give his name to his children, once joking bitterly
that it made him nothing but a bloody a meeber.
When Andrew was born that same year, he became the
first royal child registered with the Mountbatan dash Windsor surname.
Now that he no longer holds the style of his

(02:13):
Royal Highness or the title Prince Royal, historians say it
would be consistent and perhaps poetic justice for him to
return to the name exactly as his mother intended. Given
the Queen's clear directive, I was surprised that Palace ever
printed his name without that hyphen. Royal historian Ian Lloyd

(02:33):
told The Times it's there in Anne's marriage certificate and
on Archie's birth certificate. It's not optional. A royal source
told the Son, it is a conundrum what they do
with Andrew this Christmas. No one wants it to be
seen with him, and the family have pretty much given
up on him. One inside has said Beatrice and Eugenie
are very likely to be at Sandringham as they are

(02:54):
very much still in the royal fold. A source told
the Son Andrew is depressed after losing his titles and
being exiled from the royal family, so they don't want
to leave him on his own. According to gb News,
royal household staff are already quietly discussing how best to
ensure he is not completely alone over the festive period.
Options could include inviting trusted friends or arranging for him

(03:17):
to join a more low key gathering away from the cameras.
Royal biographer Ingrid Seward acknowledged the dilemma facing the family.
She told the paper It is a very difficult situation
with Andrew and Christmas, but I cannot see them leaving
him on his own. Someone will scoop him up. Royal

(03:38):
insiders say Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie are feeling strained
as their parents' scandals continue to cast a long shadow
over their lives. Sources told Radar Online, Beatrice and Eugenie
are an impossible position. The shadow of their parents' scandals
keeps following them, and it's getting harder to protect their
own reputations. The source added that while both princesses have

(03:59):
worked diligently to build independent careers and charitable profiles, each
new story about Sarah or Andrew makes it tougher to
be taken seriously in professional and philanthropic circles. Another Royal
source explained the deeper issue they've both put in the work,
but the truth is their positions and opportunities have always
been connected to their family name. Now that name was

(04:21):
becoming a liability. That same insider warned that there's genuine
fear that the fallout from their parents could unravel everything
they've achieved. A third source went further, saying the Princess's
optics are getting harder to defend. While Beatrice and Eugenie
are technically private citizens, they still enjoy advantages most people
can't imagine. With their parents losing titles and status, the

(04:44):
contrast is becoming glaring, and public patience for that kind
of privilege is wearing thin. Princess Anne delivered a sharp
witted response in Australia when conversation turned to her disgraced
brother while attending a garden party marking the centenary of
the Royal Australian Signal Corps, and was approached by serviceman
James Thorpe, who mentioned that he had previously met her brother.

(05:07):
Without missing a beat, the Princess Royal replied, which one
I have three? The quick quip drew laughter from the
Crown and neatly sidestepped any awkward discussion about Andrew when
Thorpe clarified, Ah, that's the main one man. AND's humorous
deflection had already done its work. More palace in just
a moment, and insider told the son, it's no secret

(05:33):
that Sarah is not in a good way at the moment.
The girls are extremely worried about her and making sure
they stay in touch. Sarah's older sister Jane has been
over from Australia recently to see her, and that was
in part to give Sarah moral support. She feels she
is blameless, but has taken what has happened recently extremely hard.
Sarah still thinks Andrew is a good person and will

(05:54):
always support him, but she knows her future is away
from him. A senior prison official has reportedly complained he
is sick of being Gilaine Maxwell's bitch, as accusations mount
that the convicted sex trafficker is enjoying a life of
luxury behind bars. According to whistleblowers who spoke to the
House Judiciary Committee, staff at Federal Prison Camp Brian in

(06:17):
Texas are allegedly catering to Maxwell hand and foot. Congressman
Jamie Raskin of Maryland detailed the claims in the sharply
worded letter to President Donald Trump, accusing prison officials of
grotesque pampering and retaliation against anyone who objects. Raskin wrote,
within FPC Brian, the deference and civility to Miss Maxwell

(06:39):
have reached such preposterous levels that one of the top
officials at the facility has complained that he is sick
of having to be Maxwell's bitch. The congressman alleged that
Maxwell has been granted privilege such as private workouts, special
mills delivered to her cell, computer access, and a recreation
time and staff only areas treatment he compared to a

(07:00):
guest at a Trump hotel rather than a convicted felon.
And there you have it. If you'd like to email
us addresses the Palace Intrigue at gmail dot com. By
the way, don't forget we have a new series out,
Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew, chronicling the life of Prince
Andrew from his early years to his fall from grace,

(07:23):
and that is available wherever you get your podcasts. You
can click the link in the show notes or just
search Crown and Controversy Prince Andrew. There are new episodes
every Sunday. Mike Francis my thanks to John McDermott. This
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