October 23, 2025 • 56 mins
Air Date - 22 October 2025
Beverley Gilmour is a children’s book author, founder of Merlinus Publishing, and is currently doing doctoral research to attain a PhD in the study of human consciousness. In 1992, Beverley became a victim of violent rape, surviving a severe traumatic brain injury that led to 30 years of extended states of altered consciousness. Her heartbeat would stop, and her consciousness would separate from her body, resulting in a state of being flatlined called ‘Actual Death Experiences’ [ADEs]. She could have ended her life, but she chose her love and commitment to her three young children as well as her desire to understand ADE’s to keep her strong and continuing. She earned a BA Honors Degree in Screenwriting for Film and Television and a Masters in Publishing.
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Beverley Gilmour is a children’s book author, founder of Merlinus Publishing, and is currently doing doctoral research to attain a PhD in the study of human consciousness. In 1992, Beverley became a victim of violent rape, surviving a severe traumatic brain injury that led to 30 years of extended states of altered consciousness. Her heartbeat would stop, and her consciousness would separate from her body, resulting in a state of being flatlined called ‘Actual Death Experiences’ [ADEs]. She could have ended her life, but she chose her love and commitment to her three young children as well as her desire to understand ADE’s to keep her strong and continuing. She earned a BA Honors Degree in Screenwriting for Film and Television and a Masters in Publishing.
https://www.snowmites.com/
https://www.merlinuspublishers.co.uk/
https://consciousnessexplored.com
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the
(00:31):
origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place
(00:52):
based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
align with and embody your true self and live a
life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Royce Morales.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Welcome everyone. I'm so glad that you're here, and as always,
I am thrilled and excited to have the honor of
talking to my guest today. And before I even introduce her,
I want to just tell you a little bit about
her story. Ah I call this episode a life, a
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shattered life, paused and reclaimed. But that's only a part
of Beverly Gilmour's miraculous story. In nineteen ninety two, Beverly
became a victim of violent crime and she survived, but
she suffered traumatic brain injury that led to over thirty
years of extended states of altered consciousness. And she's going
(01:59):
to talk about that amazing. Excuse me. Her heartbeat would stop,
her consciousness would separate from her body, resulting in a
flatline state that is referred to as actual death experiences.
These are different than near death experiences, and she's going
to explain that too. But she chose love and commitment
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to her children as well as her desire to tell
people about what ades which are actual death experiences. She
wanted to find out more about that, and she wanted
to tell the world about that. So she did a
lot of research on that and for thirty three years
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her life was on pause. But then, due to some
interesting experiences, she became a children's book author. She earned
her BA in What did She Film and Television and
a master's in publishing. I don't think they have any
of that out here in the States. She's in Britain,
(03:09):
by the way, and she began her study of human
consciousness based on what she was going through. And it's
quite extraordinary and inspiring. What happened from all of this,
and what I see happening is that she shifted her
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life from being a victim into being an inspiring, amazing,
healed person. So welcome, Beverly. I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Thank you for you, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, and just for full disclosure, Beverly and I connected
because I have been trying to publish a young adults
or middle grade book series that I've written, and as
always in my life, she landed in my lap. And
now she's going to be publishing my books. So very
(04:05):
exciting to have you here. So tell us your story, basically,
what happened in nineteen ninety two, this night that shifted
your life in all kinds of ways. Tell us what happened, well,
I think I think too.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Sort of like set the scene for the listener. Basically,
we need to go back a few years to nineteen
eighty seven, because it was in nineteen eighty seven when
the actual death experiences first started. There were spontaneous but
there were very few, and they were like I would
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have one every seven to eight months. So the difference
between the years is that from nineteen eighty seven open
to nineteen ninety too, I would have an experience and
I would basically apart from having slight light sensitivity, I
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was still able to have normal sleep, I was still
able to have a normal life. I think I felt,
like I'll be honest with you, I was very frightened
of the experiences because at the beginning I did not
know what was happening to me. I thought it was
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just deep sleep and dreaming. And then as they progressed,
because I went further and further and further and crossed
over to the afterlife, and the one person who I
kept meeting was Jesus. And I had a relationship with
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Jesus from being a young child, and at first I
did not know who he was, And then instantly, how
can I put this? I knew who he was, but
I wasn't sure. I was like, could this really be Jesus?
And I was getting spiritual energy back to me saying,
(06:18):
why are you asking such a question? Do you not know?
And of course he was like, yeah, I didn't know.
But you know, really he's in it, and was like,
next minute. As soon as he actually allowed me to
see his face, I just fell to my knees. And
it was just the most incredible experience because I, you know,
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and I had to I was being guided to be
extremely respectful of him and of his presence. And he
said to me. I uttered the words and by the way,
we don't use berbal words in the afterlife. It's all
through thought. And I said the words, argue, my Lord Jesus.
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I was, you know, on my knees, and he replied,
why do you ask, child, Do you not know?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So it was like okay, all right, and then place
to what can be described as a wooden cross over
my neck in the form of like a necklace, but
the cross was extremely large, so if you can imagine that,
I'm on my knees and this cross came. He put
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this cross over over my neck and the cross reached
the bottom, and he spoke the words, do not be
a fake, child, for you shall always be protected, and
then he just disappeared back into the planets. And I
came back and I was like, WHOA, yeah, but howp
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be honest? I said, I trusted him. I said all
these things in my physical life. But trust is an
enormous emotion, and sometimes we think we do these things,
we think we trust, but when we're put to the test,
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it's a different story. Because I was afraid. I was
afraid because I acknowledge the fact that I was dying
and I didn't want to die. I wanted to live.
I wanted to be a mother, I wanted to be
a wife. I wanted to, you know, have a life.
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And those first few experiences that he would take, he
took me to meet my father, who passed away in
nineteen eighty two, and I remember thinking in between the times,
I remember thinking, I go and meet my dad again,
you know, in prayer, you know, in like when I
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was going to bed at night and I was talking
to Jesus as in from a physical sense, it can
I go meet my dad again tonight? And I really
really wanted. It wasn't about what I wanted. I actually
only met my dad in the entire thirty three years
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about four times. But even meeting him once was amazing
because I knew he was safe and I knew, I
knew he was alive, I knew he was living so
those first few ones, as in those first two years,
the only thing I was writing down because Jesus took
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me to meet my father, he took me to meet
my grandmar and in those encounters I didn't realize that
what was happening he was teaching my higher consciousness. He
was teaching my spiritual mind about the afterlife, about his
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love and explaining about we are all creation from God
and we are all energy of love. That is what
we are as a human beings. We are love. So
when I was regaining consciousness from them and then just
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living my everyday life, I wasn't really writing anything down.
The only thing I was doing was writing down about
the snow mites, about what I saw, and I was
transferring what I saw in the afterlife into these children's
books because one of the mentors that Jesus took me
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to me was the spirit or Disney, and that was
so fascinating. And Jesus explained that, and I understand this
because I wasn't reading the Bible or anything like that there,
because you know, I was just I was just me.
And he said, there are many kingdoms in my father's kingdom,
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so I was allowed to see this one, this this
afterlife of what isn't and that was amazing. And he
would show me things and when I came back, I
write them down. I've read this story down. He was
telling me these stories, fantasy stories, you know, for children.
So that was all I was doing in them years.
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And I kept thinking, why am I having them? What
are you saying to me? And I had no idea
because in your physical body, I wasn't able to access
the higher consciousness. Yeah, And I just remember one thinking, how,
I'm sure, I'm sure you'll explain to me properly one day.
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I'm sure I'll find out. And I just carried on
with life, being a mother, being a wise and stories
and things like that. Now in nineteen ninety two where
everything changes, and this is where we start to understand
the actual death experiences after the crime, after the brain
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when when the brain injury occurred. What happened to me
is my consciousness split in my physical life. So I'm
now walking around with my higher consciousness as my primeier consciousness,
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and my normal consciousness, which is what we're using now,
was damaged beyond repair. It was just so damaged it
couldn't function. So because my higher consciousness that became my
primeier consciousness. I was picked up on everybody's energy. I
was picking up on the thoughts. I was near it,
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imaging them. And the power of the higher consciousness is
a billion times more than what we understand it to be.
And it's located on the front lobe here in the head.
And the reason I say that is because the activation
itself being primary, caused what you call a horrendous loud,
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high pitch noise. It was like when I went into
a room with a radio, I couldn't all of a sudden,
I couldn't be anywhere where there was like a radio playing.
I couldn't be anywhere where there was light. I couldn't
shut down. I just couldn't shut down. So I couldn't sleep,
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and I actually hadn't had a natural sleep for thirty
three years. So it is I, you know, and I
still get this. And one of the things, because it's
so powerful, it's like it caused what you would say
the effects of like a burning brain. And I would
feel it shift across the head and then flow down,
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and it would always flow down the back of the
head on the left hand side and then shift across
to the back of the right hand side and then
shift back up to the food. So this was the
healing it was trying to do to the brain, this heat,
so to speak. So obviously I didn't know it was
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healing me. I didn't understand because in my physical life,
I couldn't even say who I was. I couldn't even
talk to people. I couldn't say my name is Beverly.
Pressure would cause me to go unconscious, and again that's
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it was healing. Why I was unconscious, and things like
you couldn't touch my head, you couldn't come anywhere near
with your hand or anything like that if you tried
to put your hand anywhere near, because the electricity from
you just too much for me, too much for me
to physically bear. I would often go into vegetation states
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where I would just sit and I couldn't communicate. I
couldn't speak, you see. So it was it was horrendous.
It was. It was awful because I was like I
was trapped inside myself, you know, and I couldn't function.
And the only time I was able to function was
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in the presence of my children. And that's quite interesting
because what I understood the reason for that is because
my love and my maternal bond and my children's love
was all connected to this higher consciousness, which is our love,
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which is our spiritual mind, which is the part of
our consciousness that transfers. It's separating in death and it
carries on into the afterlife, and then we're giving it
a spiritual body. So that's basically how it is. And
the actual death experiences, they were absolutely horrendous because whereas
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prior to it I was only having one every few months,
I started to have an actual death experience because of
the unconsciousness two three times a week. So I was
just unable to function properly unless it was around the children,
and then I wasn't able to and whats whet I
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was present with them? If if you understand what I
mean and what I did not know. What I also
started to do was this this writing. I would have
an actual death experience, I would see what I was
I was supposed to see. I would come back and eventually,
because after an actual death experiences, you can't just sit up,
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you know, when you regain consciousness, you can't just jump
out to bed like you can when you wake up.
You know, from asleep you can sort of like stretch
or you're no, you know, it's like, oh okay, and
then get up out of bed. When you have an
actual death experience and you first connect back to your consciousness,
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you basically it's like I would tell my arm to move,
and at first they wouldn't move, and I'd have to
keep repeating the instruction for my arm to move, my
leg to move until it all settled back down and reconnected,
and then I was able to move. So there was
moments like that. And one of the things I found
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myself doing was going into this such like conscious state,
of this higher higher conscious state and writing and what
I was writing, if you know which eventually I'm going
to publish on it was my higher consciousness was telling
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me who I was. It's called who am I? I
am Beverly and might cry so please, because it's all
about love, and the love that we have inside us
is just it's just beyond it because it is so priceless,
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it is so perfect. It is God's love. It is
the most incredible power, and it's so beautiful. And here
my higher consciousness, all my love and my years before
the the brain injury and everything who I was as
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a person. She was there, and she was saying, remember me,
and what she what? What? When I say she please,
don't get confused it it was me. Okay, you know
I'm not I'm not got psychosis or it was me yeah,
but my spiritual mind, my spiritual self. But my love,
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so to speak, was so determined to bring me back.
And it was these writings, and it was all about
writing about memories I'd had him, you know, the past.
It was about remind me about the love that I
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felt in the past, how people loved me, how I
loved people, all about my children's love. That was just pages, pages, pages,
and I would write these I called them letters, but
they weren't letters because I remember one I was in
a trance and one of them was like three hundred pages.
(20:21):
So you know, I would like to receive that as
the letter.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Exact.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You'll be sitting here for a few weeks on this letter. Well,
what was happening as well in these writings was all
the knowledge and the teachings that Jesus had given me
in the actual death experiences from eighty seven to ninety
two about his love, about God's love, about this love
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that we have that we've been given, that was coming
through in the mountains as well, so it was incredible.
And even though it was painful, because it was painful
and I was frightening, I was very frightened, this higher
consciousness didn't give up on me. It was like, no,
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we're going to get you there because it knew the future.
I didn't. I was like, you know, why is this happening?
You know I'm crying, and I mean so much pain
and all this, but this higher consciousness was just reinforce
over and over and over again. And understanding the higher
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consciousness is basically how you and I now can evolve,
and how we can we can feel ourselves of our
emotional triggers, addiction, how we can prepare ourselves for well, basically,
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how our consciousness can evolve so we could prepare ourselves
for our eternity. How we can actually transfer that love
to each other so that we are united in this
spiritual energy. And it's just beyond I mean, it would
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probably take us several hours to actually go into real
detail about the power of it, because I can remember
one out one one ade where I found myself and
this kind of like explains this power of love, that
this spiritual energy is and I found myself in what
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you would call the deepest furthest of outer space, you know,
the universe. There was you know, it was space, and
I can remember I was like just present, was there,
My spirit was there, and I felt God and I
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actually felt overwhelmed by his pure, pure energy. Is his
existence beyond what we could probably talk about, you know,
it was just a billion times more than what we
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know love to be. It just filled me and I
remember having the thoughts, this is worth fighting for. Now
that might sound like a negativity against spirituals because we
know we shouldn't fight, but what it was is what
I was saying is this is my place in the universe.
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This is worth fighting for. And what I was actually
saying was this is worth fighting my demons for, my
negativety my flaws, my showcomings. I want to be of
this love in my senity and I will in my
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life walk the path consciously aware that I have work
to do every day. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh yeah, absolutely. It sounds like people what people strive
for in their spiritual journey, you know, and you and
you got there a different way than those of us
that are just doing it through meditation and all those
other things. I mean you you really got there.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There's the pace of this. It's real. Everything you wait
for everything. Everyone who you know gives these spiritual sort
of like chats and teachings. It's real, exists, and it
is we're fighting for. It is worth you waking up
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tomorrow morning and saying, right, if someone I meet someone
today and they start talking bad of someone, gossip, you know,
just something consciously we probably wouldn't even think about, you know,
we just might engage in it. Oh yeah, that person's bad.
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Stop say to yourself, No, I'm not going to judge
that person. That person has not done me any harm.
I'm going to step away from this negative energy of
this gossip and I'm just going to reflect ale of
onto it. And it's things like that. Every single day
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when you're look in the mirror in the morning, you
have to see that you are of this love, you
are of this higher consciousness and you actually I love
myself and it's not as an ego trip, it's not vanity.
It's I love my spirit, I love my energy, I
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love myself, I love who I am, I love my life.
And by doing that every day you will start to
project that energy out because one of the interesting things,
and I'm sure a lot of your listeners know about
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this already. When people have an actual death experience aka
near death experience, they always say, when I passed over
it into the afterlife, and I went through the light
and I encountered spirits, I was aware of this amazing love.
Nine times out of ten. A person who hasn't experienced
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feels the love in the afterlife. What I have learned
is that we are that love. And if we feel
it in the afterlife, and it's in our spirit and
we're feeling it when we return to our physical body,
it's still there. We just need to learn to unlock
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it and project it out to everyone around us in
our environment. And that is how I have learned. Through
the items that are consciousness, our higher consciousness, it will evolve,
it will open, it will create an awakening, and there
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will be this surge of positive energy if we start
learning that now. And that's quite incredible because like that,
that just glows your mind, does me? Yes? Ah, I
just like said, there, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, for those people that haven't had near death or
actual death experiences, are there ways that either you have
been given through all of your conscious explorations. Are there
ways for people to get there? I mean, I know
I have my way and other people have their their ways,
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But what do you recommend for somebody to really get
to that place of higher consciousness?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Meditation? Absolutely, Meditate and meditate on light, Meditate on peace,
Meditate on yourself, on your growth, and just evolve inside
yourself and you will find that well, as you create
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that positive entity, your higher consciousness will start awakening. And
the more it will awaken naturally unlike what happened to
me my mind was it just went and split. If
you nurture it through meditation, through prayer, you will start
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to awaken it inside yourself and you will start to
actually see life differently. You will see beauty, You will
see incredible transformations. Whereas before you might have seen a problem,
you will see a solution to that problem. And that
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is that is basically the way forward for us to
take control. Now, start meditating and start being responsible for who.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We are as people, and start consciously opening our higher
consciousness so that we can evolve with each other in
this life.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, so, as usual, I have a million questions, but
so everything that's going on in the world right now.
You know, I know that maybe it's not as bad
over where you live, but here we're going through some
really big challenges politically, environmentally and all that stuff. I
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understand that there's always a bigger picture. You know, even
what you just shared, you had to go through something
horrendous to really wake you up and to get you connected.
What is your sense of why on a planetary level
we're going through all of this stuff? Do you have
any thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
One of the things that I know is crucial to
our existence is our environment, because if we in this
highest high consciousness state, we not only understand not only
will experience love God's love in our presence in our
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physical lives, but we'll also experience the love for creation.
And you start seeing It's like, okay, this might sound
a silly story, so may will. But all of a sudden,
I was able to see a basic brick wall, and
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I saw beauty in that brick wall. And it was
just the basic brickwall. You know. Some people would say, really,
go to the brick wall, that's quite crazy, and it wasn't.
It was because what I was able to see behind
the brick wall was that someone had built it, someone
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had come along created it. It didn't exist at one time,
and now it existed, and it was through their skills
and that they're hard work and as a result of
there they were probably paid, right, and then that money
that they were paid probably then went for food or
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you know, their or the shelter and fed their children.
So can you see where the beauty in that brick
wall now sort of like all of a sudden, it's
not just a dull, gray brick wall. You know, it's
actually life. This brick wall's life.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's quite it's very powerful.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Is shifting your perception.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's exactly exactly. You start shading everything. You start understanding
about how important our environment is because animals, you know, gardens,
you know, trees, the planet itself, it's a creation, and
this higher consciousness is a creation. So you start connecting
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with everything everything.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's the connection.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You stop, you start fighting your own demons, and your
own demons such as greed, you know, selfishness, you know,
like anger, you stop, you stop experiencing those things, and
you when those things are sort of like presented into
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your life, you're able to address them in a calm,
positive way, so that you're able to like walk past it,
walk above it. You know, you're able to lift yourself
above it. So you see the anger or the the
whatever it is, the bad of the negative emotion. You
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see it for what it really is. And really it's
not like, for instance, you know, you miss a bus,
you're going to be ready for work. You're full of anger, frustration, anxiety.
Everyone's going to go, well.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You're late.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You're late. I don't think a bus is going to
come along after that. You're going to get onto it.
You're going to get to work, and you see I
missed the bus. Yeah, and you know, you know, people
sort of like say, oh, you shouldn't be doing that.
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You shouldn't be doing that. You know, you can you
can even acknowledge that maybe you're missing too many buses
and maybe the time table needs your attention so that
you get there early. You know, but you solve the
problem if you get working. And one of the things
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about the high consciousness, which is really interesting, especially with you,
is it can mirror other people. Yes, and this is
part of the story. So it's quite interesting because my
personality before the brain injury is I was a bit bubbly.
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I'm a scouser or like, you know, having a laugh,
you know those kind of that kind of personality. I
wasn't a serious person. I was just go with the
flow kind of person if you know what I mean.
And these writings ended up becoming evidence in a court
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of blood. Well it's part of the healing. And I
don't mean just m A small court of ay ended
up in the High Court of London, so it was
like a real big course of law, you know what
I mean. I don't know if you want me to
tell you the story, but this is an example of mirror.
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Welcome back. We're right telling an amazing story. So so
finish your story. I love that.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I like the out beautiful feature in America. Beautiful that
is that is amazing, isn't it. Imagine if we all
took part in that, you know, imagine imagine what we
could do as a as a collective spiritual energy. And Okay,
so well, I find it a funny story. Some people won't,
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but I found it.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
You basically know that the physical Beverly, you know, the
one that was walking around when I could walk around,
didn't know anything what was going on, didn't understand any.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Really, I always felt I was ten steps behind myself
because my high consciousness was that priory consciousness, and all
these writings ended up and something was triggered, and what
it what it was? It was like during during when
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I was supposed to be getting loved after for the
brain injury. You know, things went done properly by medical professors. Anyway,
I'm not going to go into that. But you know,
so it came up to sue them suthanm in oficutural law,
and it was like I was under the impression that
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all these writings were my evidence, you know what happened
to me? So I wanted to put them forward. And
of course, when solicitors we call you call them lawyers,
but we call them solicitors. When solicitors saw the evidence
I wanted to put into the core, they were like, no,
we're not We're not doing this. You know, this is
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because this is like spiritual writings. This is very elaborate
style of writing, you know, and we're talking about thousands
and thousands of pages. So they were like, no, we're
not taking this case. And what ended up happening is
because the higher conscious I became my own lawyer. I
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became my own wow. And me didn't know anything about law,
but this higher consciousness knew everything about law, you know.
And I ended up going into the courtroom and the
very first one was just the judge and okay, so
(41:30):
that we're not getting the confused. It was basically the
health authority, so it's just their lawyer and them, and
I ended up going into court on that one, and
there was a hearing, you know, and you have to speak,
and then they speak, and the judge decided that there
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was a case to answer because when I was speaking,
it wasn't me speaking, it was high your consciousness, and boy,
can it deliver a good speech. It's like, you know,
full of confidence, you know, very you know, projecting and
all of this project one's voice out, you know, show
(42:15):
them the humane business there. And this is my one
of my flaws because I was very bossy. So my
higher consciousness was very bossy. That was quite anyway. The
next thing that happened was this was just in a
very low court. And the next thing happened is I
wanted to take action. I wanted to suit the health
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authority as well. So this is the count, the local council,
and now the help authority. And I went to another
judge and he recognized me and he said, okay, this
is another case. Have you thought of joining these cases together?
So this higher conscioususiness was like, that's what I'm going
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to do. So these two cases were then joined together,
and the council authority they you have to have believe
of court to sue them, so they were trying to
throw the case out. And what was happening is this
higher consciousness was transferring their thoughts to me. It was
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in a sort of entity where I knew they weren't
my thoughts, you know, and I was picking up on
what they were going to do to try and throw
this case out, so I would go away and then
do something in this case. The counter acted for them.
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So then when we went back to court, they were like,
you know, I present my new sort of part of
the case, and they were like, what how is she
doing that? What?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
What?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
What? What? And I would be sitting there, you know,
and all like I would be doing as like sitting
there playing with my hearing age, you know. I was like,
what's going on here? Because by this time we had
about eight We had about four barristers, four solicitors, and
were just recently and I was ending up out soon
them for twenty million as well. And they were all
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over the place, and I had all these cases, all
these evidence, and they had pieces of paper and they
did not realize this that they was on higher consciousness.
They were telling me how to sue them. It. It
was astonishing. And at the High Court, I can remember
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I was standing there. Okay, you know why am I here?
And all this? It was all this, you know, these
really big old barristers, barristers and all these poses and everything,
and I remember feels so out of I was like this,
you know, scouse in this really high collner. Like what.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
This woman came?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I always remember she came marching over and she was
embarrassed and she had about I think about eight sorts
of like legal you know, so solicitous with her. And
I remember her gown flowing because she was striking so
powerful towards me. She was like this foster be reckoned with.
(45:31):
And she got up to me, she had this and
she just what she actually said to me, she said, hello,
you know this she was like Margaret thatcher. I don't
know if you remember that. She reminds me, I really,
you know, And and she and all I heard was this.
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What happened is the high consciousness suddenly, because what would
sometimes happen is it would take away all healing. So
I'd hear nothing. And that's when I knew it was
about to speak, because it would just go yeah and
not everything. And all I heard here is let her
go first. That was it. So I'm sunny, and you
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can go first. And she started laughing at me. And
she was laughing because apparently there's some old saying that
whoever goes first in a court of law, you know,
the presentation is you know, some more chance of winning,
because they strike the case, they lead the foundation for
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the case. So she laughing because it was my case,
and by right, I should have gone first. So we
all walk into this massive court room and everything, and
I'm sitting there and we stand the in walks with
this judge and I've never seen one like him before,
(47:03):
and he had this really long wig on my dad
to his knees, and we all stand up and then
he comes in. He sits down and I will sit down,
and then she stands up and she makes this big
sign and she says my lord, and I just went, oh,
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thank god, I know what to call him?
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Now?
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Why you know how to address him?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
So she went and then I stood up and I
went my lord, and then I basically from what she
was transferring over to me, that became my presentation. And
they all sit there with with where's she getting this from?
(47:52):
And I wouldn't I won the cases because you know,
that's just love this. I won the cases. It's quite
funny because I've never told them that they were actually
teaching me how to see them. I've never told them
that the transfer of knowledge was from them. I didn't
know anything about law.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
So that's very very kind, That is amazing. So we
only we only have a few more minutes, and I
want you to tell us about what you call your
soul project. Tell us about that, Okay.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
The Sole Project is the scientific off obversation of human
consciousness and what it is. What I'd like to do is,
as you know, I'm looking to do my PhD in exploring. Basically,
it's to discover what the human consciousness is capable of,
(48:52):
what the existence of it food, the actual death experiences
which I've had, so what good. What I'd like to
do is why I found is that everyone's human consciousness,
everyone's higher consciousness is different and where you'll find it's
it's whatever their personality is, if you know what I mean.
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And the Sole Project is based on that, and i'd
like to start getting people's why I find at the moment,
the Internet is brilliant, It's wonderful to a degree, you know,
and we get to hear about all these different stories.
But what I find is missing is people tell their
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story and say, this is what happened to me. I died,
I went through the lives. I saw this, I saw that,
I saw this, I saw that, and that's it. So
what I want to do is I want to say, well,
why did you see that, Why do you think you
saw that? Why do you think you were told that?
And actually explore the actual death experiences of other people
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to see where the connection is between their physical lives
and their spiritual lives, and see how that connection can
then bring about greater understanding for their higher consciousness because
it's all about self. It's all about yourself. So that's
what I'm hoping. Well, I need to get organized. I
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need to stop being discussed. Get organized.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Well, it's interesting because I've had a lot of guests
on my show that either experience a near death experience
and or experienced what they refer to as a distressing
near death experience. I had a couple of interviews with
somebody that literally felt as though she was taken to
hell and brought that information that she learned from that
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experience and of course changed her life, wrote books about it,
and you know, is teaching people about that from her experience.
But it's such a fascinating field. But I know we're
looking at the time here, can you I know, maybe
you you got it across. But just for those people
that are a little confused between what a near death
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experience is versus an actual death experience, how would you
define the difference there?
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Well, there's no real deference what it is. It's just
terminology because near death experience was coined by its Ribbon Moody, Yeah,
in I believe seventy five. Yeah, And over the years
you will find that people use the term near death
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experience when they almost have an accident. It's phown around
a lot more than what it was. So because it's
used for the or the or the explanations, because it's
used for other things. You know, we need to contain
the difference between almost having an accident, almost dying, and
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actually having an actual deaf experience. And I believe it's
Sam Parneer as well. He also calls some actual deaf
experiences because the brain, you can't be near to death
and have one of these experiences. You have to flatline,
you have to shut down. And then so during those
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moments of shutting down and flatlining and your consciousness separation.
That is, you are experiencing basically death. Your body is
shut down.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
So for.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Especially for the PhD and stuff like that, and for
a medical point of view, I refer to them as
actual deaf experiences, so we can be clear that they
don't like, I'm not awake when these happen. I have
to go unconscious first for me to have an experience,
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and I can't produce one through meditation. You know. That's
more I still traveling. That is, So it is a
medical condition in my case because of the brain injury,
if you know what I mean. Even though I was
having them before, the actual understanding of the consciousness only
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happened because of the brain injury because it became it
started to heal the injury. So yeah, it is basically
I mean, people can still call them near deaf experiences,
but I don't call them that, and I know a
few people who don't. So we're still talking about leaving
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the body, going through the light, meeting relatives who are
passed on. We're still talking about the same thing.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Okay, that makes sense. There's kind of what I thought.
But I just want to clarify it. So if there
we only have two minutes. So first of all, give
us one thing that you hope people get from all
that you went through or the the connection to your
higher consciousness. What would be the one wonderful thing you
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can tell people?
Speaker 3 (54:22):
I hope people get love.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, that's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
What that's about, That's why we are that love. I
hope people can start to realize how beautiful they are
because they are you know, they sort out their flaws
and stuff like that. They can do that in their
own time and they can be totally in control of
the buts as an existence, as a creation, we are incredible.
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We have the ability to heal the world. We have
the ability to heal each other. And that's why I
hope that people will understand from my.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yes really fast, how do people find you? How do
they read about you? Your websites? How do they connect?
Speaker 3 (55:16):
They can learn about the research on the high consciousness
and what happened to me through I believe he put
up a website, and they can learn about the children's
books and everything.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Do you want me to put that one off or
oh just tell us yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Okay, it's snow mites dot com. MHM, that's up there.
And then the other thing that I've been doing is,
as you know, and I created a publishing house, and
what I'm sort of reaching towards is publishing people like
you who have that same message we are the Love.
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Got if you have a book that says we are
the Love, that you think this book will help heal
I feel people and by all means get in touch.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, well, I'll talk to you soon. Thank you, good work.
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
Welcome everyone. I'm so glad that you're here, and as always,
I am thrilled and excited to have the honor of
talking to my guest today. And before I even introduce her,
I want to just tell you a little bit about
her story. Ah I call this episode a life, a
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shattered life, paused and reclaimed. But that's only a part
of Beverly Gilmour's miraculous story. In nineteen ninety two, Beverly
became a victim of violent crime and she survived, but
she suffered traumatic brain injury that led to over thirty
years of extended states of altered consciousness. And she's going
(01:59):
to talk about that amazing. Excuse me. Her heartbeat would stop,
her consciousness would separate from her body, resulting in a
flatline state that is referred to as actual death experiences.
These are different than near death experiences, and she's going
to explain that too. But she chose love and commitment
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to her children as well as her desire to tell
people about what ades which are actual death experiences. She
wanted to find out more about that, and she wanted
to tell the world about that. So she did a
lot of research on that and for thirty three years
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her life was on pause. But then, due to some
interesting experiences, she became a children's book author. She earned
her BA in What did She Film and Television and
a master's in publishing. I don't think they have any
of that out here in the States. She's in Britain,
(03:09):
by the way, and she began her study of human
consciousness based on what she was going through. And it's
quite extraordinary and inspiring. What happened from all of this,
and what I see happening is that she shifted her
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life from being a victim into being an inspiring, amazing,
healed person. So welcome, Beverly. I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Thank you for you, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, and just for full disclosure, Beverly and I connected
because I have been trying to publish a young adults
or middle grade book series that I've written, and as
always in my life, she landed in my lap. And
now she's going to be publishing my books. So very
(04:05):
exciting to have you here. So tell us your story, basically,
what happened in nineteen ninety two, this night that shifted
your life in all kinds of ways. Tell us what happened, well,
I think I think too.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Sort of like set the scene for the listener. Basically,
we need to go back a few years to nineteen
eighty seven, because it was in nineteen eighty seven when
the actual death experiences first started. There were spontaneous but
there were very few, and they were like I would
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have one every seven to eight months. So the difference
between the years is that from nineteen eighty seven open
to nineteen ninety too, I would have an experience and
I would basically apart from having slight light sensitivity, I
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was still able to have normal sleep, I was still
able to have a normal life. I think I felt,
like I'll be honest with you, I was very frightened
of the experiences because at the beginning I did not
know what was happening to me. I thought it was
(05:31):
just deep sleep and dreaming. And then as they progressed,
because I went further and further and further and crossed
over to the afterlife, and the one person who I
kept meeting was Jesus. And I had a relationship with
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Jesus from being a young child, and at first I
did not know who he was, And then instantly, how
can I put this? I knew who he was, but
I wasn't sure. I was like, could this really be Jesus?
And I was getting spiritual energy back to me saying,
(06:18):
why are you asking such a question? Do you not know?
And of course he was like, yeah, I didn't know.
But you know, really he's in it, and was like,
next minute. As soon as he actually allowed me to
see his face, I just fell to my knees. And
it was just the most incredible experience because I, you know,
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and I had to I was being guided to be
extremely respectful of him and of his presence. And he
said to me. I uttered the words and by the way,
we don't use berbal words in the afterlife. It's all
through thought. And I said the words, argue, my Lord Jesus.
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I was, you know, on my knees, and he replied,
why do you ask, child, Do you not know?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Mm hm.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So it was like okay, all right, and then place
to what can be described as a wooden cross over
my neck in the form of like a necklace, but
the cross was extremely large, so if you can imagine that,
I'm on my knees and this cross came. He put
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this cross over over my neck and the cross reached
the bottom, and he spoke the words, do not be
a fake, child, for you shall always be protected, and
then he just disappeared back into the planets. And I
came back and I was like, WHOA, yeah, but howp
(08:00):
be honest? I said, I trusted him. I said all
these things in my physical life. But trust is an
enormous emotion, and sometimes we think we do these things,
we think we trust, but when we're put to the test,
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it's a different story. Because I was afraid. I was
afraid because I acknowledge the fact that I was dying
and I didn't want to die. I wanted to live.
I wanted to be a mother, I wanted to be
a wife. I wanted to, you know, have a life.
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And those first few experiences that he would take, he
took me to meet my father, who passed away in
nineteen eighty two, and I remember thinking in between the times,
I remember thinking, I go and meet my dad again,
you know, in prayer, you know, in like when I
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was going to bed at night and I was talking
to Jesus as in from a physical sense, it can
I go meet my dad again tonight? And I really
really wanted. It wasn't about what I wanted. I actually
only met my dad in the entire thirty three years
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about four times. But even meeting him once was amazing
because I knew he was safe and I knew, I
knew he was alive, I knew he was living so
those first few ones, as in those first two years,
the only thing I was writing down because Jesus took
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me to meet my father, he took me to meet
my grandmar and in those encounters I didn't realize that
what was happening he was teaching my higher consciousness. He
was teaching my spiritual mind about the afterlife, about his
(10:08):
love and explaining about we are all creation from God
and we are all energy of love. That is what
we are as a human beings. We are love. So
when I was regaining consciousness from them and then just
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living my everyday life, I wasn't really writing anything down.
The only thing I was doing was writing down about
the snow mites, about what I saw, and I was
transferring what I saw in the afterlife into these children's
books because one of the mentors that Jesus took me
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to me was the spirit or Disney, and that was
so fascinating. And Jesus explained that, and I understand this
because I wasn't reading the Bible or anything like that there,
because you know, I was just I was just me.
And he said, there are many kingdoms in my father's kingdom,
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so I was allowed to see this one, this this
afterlife of what isn't and that was amazing. And he
would show me things and when I came back, I
write them down. I've read this story down. He was
telling me these stories, fantasy stories, you know, for children.
So that was all I was doing in them years.
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And I kept thinking, why am I having them? What
are you saying to me? And I had no idea
because in your physical body, I wasn't able to access
the higher consciousness. Yeah, And I just remember one thinking, how,
I'm sure, I'm sure you'll explain to me properly one day.
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I'm sure I'll find out. And I just carried on
with life, being a mother, being a wise and stories
and things like that. Now in nineteen ninety two where
everything changes, and this is where we start to understand
the actual death experiences after the crime, after the brain
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when when the brain injury occurred. What happened to me
is my consciousness split in my physical life. So I'm
now walking around with my higher consciousness as my primeier consciousness,
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and my normal consciousness, which is what we're using now,
was damaged beyond repair. It was just so damaged it
couldn't function. So because my higher consciousness that became my
primeier consciousness. I was picked up on everybody's energy. I
was picking up on the thoughts. I was near it,
(13:04):
imaging them. And the power of the higher consciousness is
a billion times more than what we understand it to be.
And it's located on the front lobe here in the head.
And the reason I say that is because the activation
itself being primary, caused what you call a horrendous loud,
(13:31):
high pitch noise. It was like when I went into
a room with a radio, I couldn't all of a sudden,
I couldn't be anywhere where there was like a radio playing.
I couldn't be anywhere where there was light. I couldn't
shut down. I just couldn't shut down. So I couldn't sleep,
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and I actually hadn't had a natural sleep for thirty
three years. So it is I, you know, and I
still get this. And one of the things, because it's
so powerful, it's like it caused what you would say
the effects of like a burning brain. And I would
feel it shift across the head and then flow down,
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and it would always flow down the back of the
head on the left hand side and then shift across
to the back of the right hand side and then
shift back up to the food. So this was the
healing it was trying to do to the brain, this heat,
so to speak. So obviously I didn't know it was
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healing me. I didn't understand because in my physical life,
I couldn't even say who I was. I couldn't even
talk to people. I couldn't say my name is Beverly.
Pressure would cause me to go unconscious, and again that's
(15:05):
it was healing. Why I was unconscious, and things like
you couldn't touch my head, you couldn't come anywhere near
with your hand or anything like that if you tried
to put your hand anywhere near, because the electricity from
you just too much for me, too much for me
to physically bear. I would often go into vegetation states
(15:30):
where I would just sit and I couldn't communicate. I
couldn't speak, you see. So it was it was horrendous.
It was. It was awful because I was like I
was trapped inside myself, you know, and I couldn't function.
And the only time I was able to function was
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in the presence of my children. And that's quite interesting
because what I understood the reason for that is because
my love and my maternal bond and my children's love
was all connected to this higher consciousness, which is our love,
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which is our spiritual mind, which is the part of
our consciousness that transfers. It's separating in death and it
carries on into the afterlife, and then we're giving it
a spiritual body. So that's basically how it is. And
the actual death experiences, they were absolutely horrendous because whereas
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prior to it I was only having one every few months,
I started to have an actual death experience because of
the unconsciousness two three times a week. So I was
just unable to function properly unless it was around the children,
and then I wasn't able to and whats whet I
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was present with them? If if you understand what I
mean and what I did not know. What I also
started to do was this this writing. I would have
an actual death experience, I would see what I was
I was supposed to see. I would come back and eventually,
because after an actual death experiences, you can't just sit up,
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you know, when you regain consciousness, you can't just jump
out to bed like you can when you wake up.
You know, from asleep you can sort of like stretch
or you're no, you know, it's like, oh okay, and
then get up out of bed. When you have an
actual death experience and you first connect back to your consciousness,
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you basically it's like I would tell my arm to move,
and at first they wouldn't move, and I'd have to
keep repeating the instruction for my arm to move, my
leg to move until it all settled back down and reconnected,
and then I was able to move. So there was
moments like that. And one of the things I found
(18:10):
myself doing was going into this such like conscious state,
of this higher higher conscious state and writing and what
I was writing, if you know which eventually I'm going
to publish on it was my higher consciousness was telling
(18:31):
me who I was. It's called who am I? I
am Beverly and might cry so please, because it's all
about love, and the love that we have inside us
is just it's just beyond it because it is so priceless,
(18:52):
it is so perfect. It is God's love. It is
the most incredible power, and it's so beautiful. And here
my higher consciousness, all my love and my years before
the the brain injury and everything who I was as
(19:14):
a person. She was there, and she was saying, remember me,
and what she what? What? When I say she please,
don't get confused it it was me. Okay, you know
I'm not I'm not got psychosis or it was me yeah,
but my spiritual mind, my spiritual self. But my love,
(19:38):
so to speak, was so determined to bring me back.
And it was these writings, and it was all about
writing about memories I'd had him, you know, the past.
It was about remind me about the love that I
(20:00):
felt in the past, how people loved me, how I
loved people, all about my children's love. That was just pages, pages, pages,
and I would write these I called them letters, but
they weren't letters because I remember one I was in
a trance and one of them was like three hundred pages.
(20:21):
So you know, I would like to receive that as
the letter.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Exact.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You'll be sitting here for a few weeks on this letter. Well,
what was happening as well in these writings was all
the knowledge and the teachings that Jesus had given me
in the actual death experiences from eighty seven to ninety
two about his love, about God's love, about this love
(20:53):
that we have that we've been given, that was coming
through in the mountains as well, so it was incredible.
And even though it was painful, because it was painful
and I was frightening, I was very frightened, this higher
consciousness didn't give up on me. It was like, no,
(21:17):
we're going to get you there because it knew the future.
I didn't. I was like, you know, why is this happening?
You know I'm crying, and I mean so much pain
and all this, but this higher consciousness was just reinforce
over and over and over again. And understanding the higher
(21:38):
consciousness is basically how you and I now can evolve,
and how we can we can feel ourselves of our
emotional triggers, addiction, how we can prepare ourselves for well, basically,
(21:59):
how our consciousness can evolve so we could prepare ourselves
for our eternity. How we can actually transfer that love
to each other so that we are united in this
spiritual energy. And it's just beyond I mean, it would
(22:19):
probably take us several hours to actually go into real
detail about the power of it, because I can remember
one out one one ade where I found myself and
this kind of like explains this power of love, that
this spiritual energy is and I found myself in what
(22:42):
you would call the deepest furthest of outer space, you know,
the universe. There was you know, it was space, and
I can remember I was like just present, was there,
My spirit was there, and I felt God and I
(23:04):
actually felt overwhelmed by his pure, pure energy. Is his
existence beyond what we could probably talk about, you know,
it was just a billion times more than what we
(23:26):
know love to be. It just filled me and I
remember having the thoughts, this is worth fighting for. Now
that might sound like a negativity against spirituals because we
know we shouldn't fight, but what it was is what
I was saying is this is my place in the universe.
(23:50):
This is worth fighting for. And what I was actually
saying was this is worth fighting my demons for, my
negativety my flaws, my showcomings. I want to be of
this love in my senity and I will in my
(24:12):
life walk the path consciously aware that I have work
to do every day. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh yeah, absolutely. It sounds like people what people strive
for in their spiritual journey, you know, and you and
you got there a different way than those of us
that are just doing it through meditation and all those
other things. I mean you you really got there.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
There's the pace of this. It's real. Everything you wait
for everything. Everyone who you know gives these spiritual sort
of like chats and teachings. It's real, exists, and it
is we're fighting for. It is worth you waking up
(25:07):
tomorrow morning and saying, right, if someone I meet someone
today and they start talking bad of someone, gossip, you know,
just something consciously we probably wouldn't even think about, you know,
we just might engage in it. Oh yeah, that person's bad.
(25:28):
Stop say to yourself, No, I'm not going to judge
that person. That person has not done me any harm.
I'm going to step away from this negative energy of
this gossip and I'm just going to reflect ale of
onto it. And it's things like that. Every single day
(25:51):
when you're look in the mirror in the morning, you
have to see that you are of this love, you
are of this higher consciousness and you actually I love
myself and it's not as an ego trip, it's not vanity.
It's I love my spirit, I love my energy, I
(26:13):
love myself, I love who I am, I love my life.
And by doing that every day you will start to
project that energy out because one of the interesting things,
and I'm sure a lot of your listeners know about
(26:35):
this already. When people have an actual death experience aka
near death experience, they always say, when I passed over
it into the afterlife, and I went through the light
and I encountered spirits, I was aware of this amazing love.
Nine times out of ten. A person who hasn't experienced
(26:58):
feels the love in the afterlife. What I have learned
is that we are that love. And if we feel
it in the afterlife, and it's in our spirit and
we're feeling it when we return to our physical body,
it's still there. We just need to learn to unlock
(27:22):
it and project it out to everyone around us in
our environment. And that is how I have learned. Through
the items that are consciousness, our higher consciousness, it will evolve,
it will open, it will create an awakening, and there
(27:43):
will be this surge of positive energy if we start
learning that now. And that's quite incredible because like that,
that just glows your mind, does me? Yes? Ah, I
just like said, there, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, for those people that haven't had near death or
actual death experiences, are there ways that either you have
been given through all of your conscious explorations. Are there
ways for people to get there? I mean, I know
I have my way and other people have their their ways,
(28:26):
But what do you recommend for somebody to really get
to that place of higher consciousness?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Meditation? Absolutely, Meditate and meditate on light, Meditate on peace,
Meditate on yourself, on your growth, and just evolve inside
yourself and you will find that well, as you create
(28:55):
that positive entity, your higher consciousness will start awakening. And
the more it will awaken naturally unlike what happened to
me my mind was it just went and split. If
you nurture it through meditation, through prayer, you will start
(29:15):
to awaken it inside yourself and you will start to
actually see life differently. You will see beauty, You will
see incredible transformations. Whereas before you might have seen a problem,
you will see a solution to that problem. And that
(29:36):
is that is basically the way forward for us to
take control. Now, start meditating and start being responsible for who.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We are as people, and start consciously opening our higher
consciousness so that we can evolve with each other in
this life.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, so, as usual, I have a million questions, but
so everything that's going on in the world right now.
You know, I know that maybe it's not as bad
over where you live, but here we're going through some
really big challenges politically, environmentally and all that stuff. I
(30:25):
understand that there's always a bigger picture. You know, even
what you just shared, you had to go through something
horrendous to really wake you up and to get you connected.
What is your sense of why on a planetary level
we're going through all of this stuff? Do you have
any thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
One of the things that I know is crucial to
our existence is our environment, because if we in this
highest high consciousness state, we not only understand not only
will experience love God's love in our presence in our
(31:09):
physical lives, but we'll also experience the love for creation.
And you start seeing It's like, okay, this might sound
a silly story, so may will. But all of a sudden,
I was able to see a basic brick wall, and
(31:31):
I saw beauty in that brick wall. And it was
just the basic brickwall. You know. Some people would say, really,
go to the brick wall, that's quite crazy, and it wasn't.
It was because what I was able to see behind
the brick wall was that someone had built it, someone
(31:55):
had come along created it. It didn't exist at one time,
and now it existed, and it was through their skills
and that they're hard work and as a result of
there they were probably paid, right, and then that money
that they were paid probably then went for food or
(32:16):
you know, their or the shelter and fed their children.
So can you see where the beauty in that brick
wall now sort of like all of a sudden, it's
not just a dull, gray brick wall. You know, it's
actually life. This brick wall's life.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's quite it's very powerful.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Is shifting your perception.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's exactly exactly. You start shading everything. You start understanding
about how important our environment is because animals, you know, gardens,
you know, trees, the planet itself, it's a creation, and
this higher consciousness is a creation. So you start connecting
(33:07):
with everything everything.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's the connection.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You stop, you start fighting your own demons, and your
own demons such as greed, you know, selfishness, you know,
like anger, you stop, you stop experiencing those things, and
you when those things are sort of like presented into
(33:34):
your life, you're able to address them in a calm,
positive way, so that you're able to like walk past it,
walk above it. You know, you're able to lift yourself
above it. So you see the anger or the the
whatever it is, the bad of the negative emotion. You
(33:58):
see it for what it really is. And really it's
not like, for instance, you know, you miss a bus,
you're going to be ready for work. You're full of anger, frustration, anxiety.
Everyone's going to go, well.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You're late.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You're late. I don't think a bus is going to
come along after that. You're going to get onto it.
You're going to get to work, and you see I
missed the bus. Yeah, and you know, you know, people
sort of like say, oh, you shouldn't be doing that.
(34:38):
You shouldn't be doing that. You know, you can you
can even acknowledge that maybe you're missing too many buses
and maybe the time table needs your attention so that
you get there early. You know, but you solve the
problem if you get working. And one of the things
(34:59):
about the high consciousness, which is really interesting, especially with you,
is it can mirror other people. Yes, and this is
part of the story. So it's quite interesting because my
personality before the brain injury is I was a bit bubbly.
(35:24):
I'm a scouser or like, you know, having a laugh,
you know those kind of that kind of personality. I
wasn't a serious person. I was just go with the
flow kind of person if you know what I mean.
And these writings ended up becoming evidence in a court
(35:45):
of blood. Well it's part of the healing. And I
don't mean just m A small court of ay ended
up in the High Court of London, so it was
like a real big course of law, you know what
I mean. I don't know if you want me to
tell you the story, but this is an example of mirror.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And if you do, you know what, hold that thought
because we need to take a break and we'll be
right back and you will tell that story and all
the details.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It's a funny story.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
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Welcome back. We're right telling an amazing story. So so
finish your story. I love that.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I like the out beautiful feature in America. Beautiful that
is that is amazing, isn't it. Imagine if we all
took part in that, you know, imagine imagine what we
could do as a as a collective spiritual energy. And Okay,
so well, I find it a funny story. Some people won't,
(39:19):
but I found it.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
You basically know that the physical Beverly, you know, the
one that was walking around when I could walk around,
didn't know anything what was going on, didn't understand any.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Really, I always felt I was ten steps behind myself
because my high consciousness was that priory consciousness, and all
these writings ended up and something was triggered, and what
it what it was? It was like during during when
(39:56):
I was supposed to be getting loved after for the
brain injury. You know, things went done properly by medical professors. Anyway,
I'm not going to go into that. But you know,
so it came up to sue them suthanm in oficutural law,
and it was like I was under the impression that
(40:20):
all these writings were my evidence, you know what happened
to me? So I wanted to put them forward. And
of course, when solicitors we call you call them lawyers,
but we call them solicitors. When solicitors saw the evidence
I wanted to put into the core, they were like, no,
we're not We're not doing this. You know, this is
(40:43):
because this is like spiritual writings. This is very elaborate
style of writing, you know, and we're talking about thousands
and thousands of pages. So they were like, no, we're
not taking this case. And what ended up happening is
because the higher conscious I became my own lawyer. I
(41:05):
became my own wow. And me didn't know anything about law,
but this higher consciousness knew everything about law, you know.
And I ended up going into the courtroom and the
very first one was just the judge and okay, so
(41:30):
that we're not getting the confused. It was basically the
health authority, so it's just their lawyer and them, and
I ended up going into court on that one, and
there was a hearing, you know, and you have to speak,
and then they speak, and the judge decided that there
(41:53):
was a case to answer because when I was speaking,
it wasn't me speaking, it was high your consciousness, and boy,
can it deliver a good speech. It's like, you know,
full of confidence, you know, very you know, projecting and
all of this project one's voice out, you know, show
(42:15):
them the humane business there. And this is my one
of my flaws because I was very bossy. So my
higher consciousness was very bossy. That was quite anyway. The
next thing that happened was this was just in a
very low court. And the next thing happened is I
wanted to take action. I wanted to suit the health
(42:39):
authority as well. So this is the count, the local council,
and now the help authority. And I went to another
judge and he recognized me and he said, okay, this
is another case. Have you thought of joining these cases together?
So this higher conscioususiness was like, that's what I'm going
(43:01):
to do. So these two cases were then joined together,
and the council authority they you have to have believe
of court to sue them, so they were trying to
throw the case out. And what was happening is this
higher consciousness was transferring their thoughts to me. It was
(43:26):
in a sort of entity where I knew they weren't
my thoughts, you know, and I was picking up on
what they were going to do to try and throw
this case out, so I would go away and then
do something in this case. The counter acted for them.
(43:48):
So then when we went back to court, they were like,
you know, I present my new sort of part of
the case, and they were like, what how is she
doing that? What?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
What?
Speaker 3 (43:59):
What? What? And I would be sitting there, you know,
and all like I would be doing as like sitting
there playing with my hearing age, you know. I was like,
what's going on here? Because by this time we had
about eight We had about four barristers, four solicitors, and
were just recently and I was ending up out soon
them for twenty million as well. And they were all
(44:23):
over the place, and I had all these cases, all
these evidence, and they had pieces of paper and they
did not realize this that they was on higher consciousness.
They were telling me how to sue them. It. It
was astonishing. And at the High Court, I can remember
(44:45):
I was standing there. Okay, you know why am I here?
And all this? It was all this, you know, these
really big old barristers, barristers and all these poses and everything,
and I remember feels so out of I was like this,
you know, scouse in this really high collner. Like what.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
This woman came?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
I always remember she came marching over and she was
embarrassed and she had about I think about eight sorts
of like legal you know, so solicitous with her. And
I remember her gown flowing because she was striking so
powerful towards me. She was like this foster be reckoned with.
(45:31):
And she got up to me, she had this and
she just what she actually said to me, she said, hello,
you know this she was like Margaret thatcher. I don't
know if you remember that. She reminds me, I really,
you know, And and she and all I heard was this.
(45:51):
What happened is the high consciousness suddenly, because what would
sometimes happen is it would take away all healing. So
I'd hear nothing. And that's when I knew it was
about to speak, because it would just go yeah and
not everything. And all I heard here is let her
go first. That was it. So I'm sunny, and you
(46:20):
can go first. And she started laughing at me. And
she was laughing because apparently there's some old saying that
whoever goes first in a court of law, you know,
the presentation is you know, some more chance of winning,
because they strike the case, they lead the foundation for
(46:42):
the case. So she laughing because it was my case,
and by right, I should have gone first. So we
all walk into this massive court room and everything, and
I'm sitting there and we stand the in walks with
this judge and I've never seen one like him before,
(47:03):
and he had this really long wig on my dad
to his knees, and we all stand up and then
he comes in. He sits down and I will sit down,
and then she stands up and she makes this big
sign and she says my lord, and I just went, oh,
(47:25):
thank god, I know what to call him?
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Now?
Speaker 3 (47:29):
Why you know how to address him?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (47:32):
So she went and then I stood up and I
went my lord, and then I basically from what she
was transferring over to me, that became my presentation. And
they all sit there with with where's she getting this from?
(47:52):
And I wouldn't I won the cases because you know,
that's just love this. I won the cases. It's quite
funny because I've never told them that they were actually
teaching me how to see them. I've never told them
that the transfer of knowledge was from them. I didn't
know anything about law.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
So that's very very kind, That is amazing. So we
only we only have a few more minutes, and I
want you to tell us about what you call your
soul project. Tell us about that, Okay.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
The Sole Project is the scientific off obversation of human
consciousness and what it is. What I'd like to do is,
as you know, I'm looking to do my PhD in exploring. Basically,
it's to discover what the human consciousness is capable of,
(48:52):
what the existence of it food, the actual death experiences
which I've had, so what good. What I'd like to
do is why I found is that everyone's human consciousness,
everyone's higher consciousness is different and where you'll find it's
it's whatever their personality is, if you know what I mean.
(49:13):
And the Sole Project is based on that, and i'd
like to start getting people's why I find at the moment,
the Internet is brilliant, It's wonderful to a degree, you know,
and we get to hear about all these different stories.
But what I find is missing is people tell their
(49:34):
story and say, this is what happened to me. I died,
I went through the lives. I saw this, I saw that,
I saw this, I saw that, and that's it. So
what I want to do is I want to say, well,
why did you see that, Why do you think you
saw that? Why do you think you were told that?
And actually explore the actual death experiences of other people
(49:59):
to see where the connection is between their physical lives
and their spiritual lives, and see how that connection can
then bring about greater understanding for their higher consciousness because
it's all about self. It's all about yourself. So that's
what I'm hoping. Well, I need to get organized. I
(50:25):
need to stop being discussed. Get organized.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Well, it's interesting because I've had a lot of guests
on my show that either experience a near death experience
and or experienced what they refer to as a distressing
near death experience. I had a couple of interviews with
somebody that literally felt as though she was taken to
hell and brought that information that she learned from that
(50:56):
experience and of course changed her life, wrote books about it,
and you know, is teaching people about that from her experience.
But it's such a fascinating field. But I know we're
looking at the time here, can you I know, maybe
you you got it across. But just for those people
that are a little confused between what a near death
(51:18):
experience is versus an actual death experience, how would you
define the difference there?
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Well, there's no real deference what it is. It's just
terminology because near death experience was coined by its Ribbon Moody, Yeah,
in I believe seventy five. Yeah, And over the years
you will find that people use the term near death
(51:45):
experience when they almost have an accident. It's phown around
a lot more than what it was. So because it's
used for the or the or the explanations, because it's
used for other things. You know, we need to contain
the difference between almost having an accident, almost dying, and
(52:10):
actually having an actual deaf experience. And I believe it's
Sam Parneer as well. He also calls some actual deaf
experiences because the brain, you can't be near to death
and have one of these experiences. You have to flatline,
you have to shut down. And then so during those
(52:31):
moments of shutting down and flatlining and your consciousness separation.
That is, you are experiencing basically death. Your body is
shut down.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
So for.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Especially for the PhD and stuff like that, and for
a medical point of view, I refer to them as
actual deaf experiences, so we can be clear that they
don't like, I'm not awake when these happen. I have
to go unconscious first for me to have an experience,
(53:07):
and I can't produce one through meditation. You know. That's
more I still traveling. That is, So it is a
medical condition in my case because of the brain injury,
if you know what I mean. Even though I was
having them before, the actual understanding of the consciousness only
(53:29):
happened because of the brain injury because it became it
started to heal the injury. So yeah, it is basically
I mean, people can still call them near deaf experiences,
but I don't call them that, and I know a
few people who don't. So we're still talking about leaving
(53:50):
the body, going through the light, meeting relatives who are
passed on. We're still talking about the same thing.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Okay, that makes sense. There's kind of what I thought.
But I just want to clarify it. So if there
we only have two minutes. So first of all, give
us one thing that you hope people get from all
that you went through or the the connection to your
higher consciousness. What would be the one wonderful thing you
(54:20):
can tell people?
Speaker 3 (54:22):
I hope people get love.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, that's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
What that's about, That's why we are that love. I
hope people can start to realize how beautiful they are
because they are you know, they sort out their flaws
and stuff like that. They can do that in their
own time and they can be totally in control of
the buts as an existence, as a creation, we are incredible.
(54:55):
We have the ability to heal the world. We have
the ability to heal each other. And that's why I
hope that people will understand from my.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yes really fast, how do people find you? How do
they read about you? Your websites? How do they connect?
Speaker 3 (55:16):
They can learn about the research on the high consciousness
and what happened to me through I believe he put
up a website, and they can learn about the children's
books and everything.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Do you want me to put that one off or
oh just tell us yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Okay, it's snow mites dot com. MHM, that's up there.
And then the other thing that I've been doing is,
as you know, and I created a publishing house, and
what I'm sort of reaching towards is publishing people like
you who have that same message we are the Love.
(56:05):
Got if you have a book that says we are
the Love, that you think this book will help heal
I feel people and by all means get in touch.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, well, I'll talk to you soon. Thank you, good work.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Ruthie's Table 4
For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.