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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
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origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place
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based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Welcome everyone. I'm so glad that you're here, and
today should be very interesting. My guest is amazing, of course,
and we're going to talk a lot about escaping conformity,
be conformity, being authentic. Why are we so locked into
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what people have told us that we should be, or
what society instills in us about being the same and
acceptable and appropriate and like everybody else. But of course,
you know, don't wear the same clothing as everybody, but
you know, get different hairstyle, but really don't go too
out there in weirdness, right. So I know that the
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guest and I both experienced very similar lifetimes of just
having to fit in and what that's about. And I
know that in my life I arrived here very different.
I was not like anybody in my family, and I
know my guest just told me that that was true
for her too. I was artistic, I thought differently about things,
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I questioned things, I was always rebelling about everything, and
it was really tough. It's a challenge to be that
way in these lifetimes that we're in. So we're programmed,
you know, we're taught to be a certain way, to
be acceptable, and the only thing that's important to us
is to be acceptable. So we are loved and successful
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and okay in the world and in society. So it's
tough to get past all that. So let me introduce
my guest, Donya Levinson. She is the founder of Outrageous Liberation.
I love the name of your organization. And she's an
intuitive empowerment coach and motivational speaker, and her goal is
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to assist people to be who they truly are and
not be who they were told they have to be
or thought they should be. She's a certified empowerment coach
and she challenges people to live their lives in the
fullest with integrity and respect for their higher self, their spirit.
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And she uses inspired actions and she'll talk more about that,
and she's trying to help people to really become authentic.
And I know I keep saying that because that's something
I talk about in my program all the time, how
inauthentic we become and in our society it's just out
of control. I think. Also also a corporate recruitment officer
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for several Fortune five hundred companies. That sounds like an
interesting story in itself. Welcome Don, I'm so Glas.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Thank you, thank you, good to see you.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah. So, first of all, tell everybody how this all
started for you. I know that you share in your
bio that you had a very abusive and traumatic childhood,
and how did all of that play for you to
go in this direction in your life.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, it's a I have a lot of different stories,
but I am grateful for all the stories I have
in my life. That's what's brought me to where I
am right now. It's everyone who's been a part of
my life has assisted me when I finally took the bowl,
you know, took the horns and just decided I have
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to heal myself, you know, it's my responsibility. And when
you do that, everything around you start shifting and changing.
So I have a lot of different tools and a
lot of different experience in my background, and that's what
I help, that's what I use with for my clients
and myself moving forward. I started in as a speech
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language pathologist, and that was something that I was told,
you know, it was a good job. This was good
for me. I actually began in school with art, and
I loved art. Art was my passion. But I was
told that's just that's not what we do. You know,
you need to study. I'm trying to make this a
brief story. I also found out I had an eye
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disorder my senior year in college, and once I had
that corrected, I started making straight a's and I thought, well,
whoever knew that the eye muscle wasn't actually working properly.
So during my childhood, which was quite you know, traumatic,
and it was a different time as well. But still
I believe we all chose our parents, we all chose
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our families for our own evolutions. So again I'm grateful
that I can look at it now from this perspective.
It hasn't always been that easy. And I learned to
develop my intuition, my intuition, the skills, everything, because reading
was actually a challenge for me. So after I was
doing extremely well in speech pathology, I thought, this is
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just not what I want to be doing. This is
my life. I'm here for something else. So I fell
into executive corporate recruiting. I did that for many years,
and then I was coaching people on their life and
I thought, huh, I'm a life coach. And then when
I looked into that, I found out, no, you didn't
create life coaching. This is an industry. So I went back.
I found a program that was accredited by the ICF
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International Coaching Federation that was over twenty years ago. And
then through my own and my clients are more spiritual evolution,
which is what we're all participating in in my opinion
right now with humanity, with the awakening, with everything that
we're all going through. My practice is now intuitive empowerment coaching.
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So it's been a culmination of anything and everything. I
moved quite a few time times. I've lived in many
different states. It gives you a different a very different perspective.
I actually grew up in Oklahoma City, so I was
the one Jewish person and we had one African American
so that was in the entire school. So it was
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just a lot of different a lot of different changes
that have brought me to this point where, yeah, where
I'm able to use my intuition as strongly as I am,
and that's what I held other people with in without
all the traumatic and humbling experiences that I've gone through.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So and how did those experiences really program you to
not be authentic or to conform? How did how did
that all take place in your life?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, I think that's something that you were talking about.
First of all, I'm almost six feet tall, so I
don't really exactly conform. I don't you know, I don't hide,
I don't blend that well. But like I said, when
I felt like speech pathology, this is what I was
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I had to be. I could never leave I I was. Also,
I think a lot of people have these conditionings. I'm
not sure if I'm answering your question correctly. You know,
we're we're, we're we all receive programming on a daily
basis right now. It's it's something that is inescapable. We
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have it through the media, we have it through the internet.
You know, sometimes it's people, it's their family. It really
depends where that source is coming from. But what I
help other people to do is to as they're waking
up right now, where do they go? You know, imagine
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if you just woke up? I mean, can you imagine? What? What?
What are you really seeing? It's very hard for people
to to understand their sovereignty, do you agree?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Oh yeah, definitely yes.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Right So, I think what's really important and beneficial for
a lot of people right now is to work with
and I'm just making this a general statement, work with
people that I think it's really important because my perspective
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has always been, well, like you, as you know, when
the student wakes up, the teacher peers, right. But there's
so much information and a lot of it's been infiltrated
and manipulated, and we thought we were following the love
and the light, and then that kind of shifted and changed.
And imagine if you just woke up right now, you know,
where would you go. So it's it's it's actually kind
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of comical because I look at my background and I
think as a corporate recruiter, as a speech pathologist for
helping and also discerning, and it was something where my
intuition was always beneficial. So I think it's really important
for people to use their intuition right now, which is
what I help people use. But in navigating through all
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this energy and their awakening process, you know, some people
have said, how about this famous person? And they say
certain names, and so it's really trusting your intuition, you know,
listening to your heart. And I'm going off into different
tangent right now than the question you asked me. But
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I think this is really an incredible time. I think
this is an incredible shift in time, and I think
many people are waking up and they don't know what's
the first step. What do I do? How do I change?
How do I shift? And I like to do lives.
We do Lives from the Lake twice a week and
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someone asked a question the other day because I think
we all have a lot of general same questions about
conformity or sameness or whatever, and it was a relationship issue.
And again, I can't, I can't give a full reading
in two seconds or two minutes. It's it wouldn't be
it wouldn't be beneficial. But I said, you know, I
think awareness is the first the first step, you know,
it's awareness. So in my humble opinion, when you become aware,
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and I think Maya Angelo said something like that. You know,
when you become aware, then you do better. So it's
just this this evolution, and it's whatever's comfortable for you.
So the conforming it's again, it's it's when you wake up,
where do you go, who's there to support you? What
different factors are important in your life? You know, what's
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a priority. And that's what I do. So when people
wake up and they said, well what do I do now?
I help people organize and prioritize their lives as spiritual
beings having a human experience. So it's it's an incredible
time right now, it is an absolutely incredible time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'm finding that a lot of people are using the
word awakening and I get that, and I get that, yes,
we're massively awakening. What does that mean to you? What
does that word really imply or how would you define that?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Well? I actually I heard someone the other day call
it reascension, reascension, and I thought that was actually really interesting.
They were talking about moving into the golden age and reascension.
So that kind of ties in with the awakening is
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and ties in with the awareness as as people are
starting to break away from the programming, they're starting to
see through the programming whatever it is it was from
their childhood or from like I said before, media or
you know, people are starting to question my son from
the time he was little. I told him, you know,
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trust what you feel. I mean, since the time he
was a little, tiny boy. And that's a whole other story.
He didn't have the healthiest childhood, and I always was,
you know, we were trying to determine what was going on.
And long story short, after my divorce, I had him
tested again and he has a rare genetic disease. So
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we had that taken care of medically appropriately and he's
now outgrowing it. So my point of all this is
is that I think there's certain things that we can use, affirmations, crystals,
other tools that help us through again if once we
become aware of this awareness, awakening, reascension, golden age. Wherever
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you are on the journey, it really it doesn't have
to have a label in my opinion. You know, we're
all just I keep coming up with quotes, but I think,
like Ramadas said, we're all just walking each other home.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Right, So true, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
It's wherever you are, whatever you're doing is right for you.
As Dorian Virtue said, everything's in divine in perfect order
right now, whatever that is. And I think what's really
beneficial are the people like you and me who are
able to who've had a lot of experience, a lot
of personal experience, a lot of professional experience, because some
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of that is just priceless. You can't learn that in a book.
Some of this so and all of my work is
from divine love. It's never fear, ego projection, self denial.
You know, there's a lot of that you can see too.
And I just think it's really beneficial for a lot
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of people who are waking up right now, who are
wondering what do I do and what does this all mean?
What does this all mean, what in the world you know,
the blinders have come off. I don't know what that's
I do remember sort of what's that that was like,
But it's happened a few times, if that makes sense
to you.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
So yeah, I think there's various levels of awakening too.
I know when I first started to awaken, I look
back on that and it's like, wow, that was nothing
compared to where we experienced in the future.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
But yeah, I completely agree, I humbly agree.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So some of the all of the work that I
do is assisting people in getting down to the actual
origins of why we are programmable. You know, why we
so readily buy into when our mom says, oh, no,
you shouldn't be an artist, or oh though you have
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to look this way or be this way, or be
a speech pathologist or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So I'm still told I'm a little too much. I
was told that one time. It was recently, and I
like to wear crystals. I like the healing properties. I
used to like other jewelry, but now when I don't
want to say now, but crystals have a lot of
good healing properties, and so I was wearing quite a
few and I was told, you know, do you think
you need all of those or take it down. I
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was like, oh, I'm gonna have to wear more now,
thank you. I'm just you know, and I did it lovingly,
but it was.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Anyway, yeah, anyway. So what I was saying is that
that I help people get down to the origins because
we arrive here in a very programmable state, not just
because we're babies, not just because we're afraid. You know,
there's a lot of other reasons for that. How do
you help people get past the programming versus just you know,
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quoting story and virtue or whatever, because I find a
lot of times that's where people are in their evolution.
They're like, you know, hanging affirmations over their bed and know,
meditating and doing all that stuff, but it doesn't get
to the source. Do you help people to do that
in some way?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I do. Again, I think that awareness is the first key.
I mean, typically people reach out to me because you know,
they're ready. They're ready. I'm not, you know. I used
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to think it was something that I had to explain
and show people. But they're ready and they need steps
or understanding or someone who can coach them through the
process of whatever it is. They're going through individually, because
I don't believe that there's one one answer for everybody.
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I think everyone there's so many different layers. And I've
always said that that I think that if you could
take a really a detailed, elaborate intake of and I
don't mean to make this clinical, but as much information
as you can and meet that person where they are.
So it's just like when we hire a dietitian. I
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mean I don't have one, but if you hire a
dietitian or you hire a personal trainer, it doesn't mean
that they don't have a lot of different tools. It
just means that you're ready, you want assistance. You believe
this is a person who can help assist you. And
maybe they have experience. Maybe maybe they were overweight and
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then they started training their body, maybe they weren't well
and then they found that health came from their physical
body or whatever. And mine is exactly that too. It's
just a varied background with professional experience, personal experience, and
tangible results from people that it's just their life. So
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also an organizer. So when I pull that out altogether,
it's the organization. So it really depends on the individual.
And again I think it's about their awareness level, just
like everyone wouldn't have the same diet, just in my opinion,
doesn't work for everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
So if somebody comes to you and says, you know,
I'm starting to realize that my whole life, I have
been buying into all the programming that my parents gave
me and everything society is telling me. Realizing that that's
what I've been doing? How do I stop doing that?
What would you tell somebody like that?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It's a good question, that's a great question. Well, again,
I think it's multi personal. I think that's great that
they're aware of this. I think that this is this
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is great that they are deciding to live their life
for themselves. I mean, it doesn't matter what age you
are at all. You know, congratulations, you're aware, You're awake.
So it could be anything. What do you want? What
are you looking for in life? What is a priority?
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Is it stability? Is it freedom? Is it financial? Freedom?
Is it? Travel? Is it? You know? It could be anything?
And then work from there. If it's travel and you
don't have the finances, how can we work? I mean,
you still have to take action. You still have In
my opinion, inspired action is good and again there are
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a lot of different tools. I believe strongly when you
first wake up or my opinion is finding some time
to center yourself, finding some time in meditation, connecting and
not just moving with the energy, and whatever happens to
come up takes you around and wherever. So I feel
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like it's a combination of many different tools, So it
could be different for every person, if that answers your question.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
So a lot of it is action steps into the words.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yes, it's a combination. It is taking care of yourself,
taking care of your energy, taking care of your needs,
making yourself a priority. When you're in a good place,
then you're able to I mean that's a simplified answer,
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but learning how to turn within. We all have our
own answers. So if you need someone. And it's funny
because I heard I think you said something about mirroring,
and I thought I knew what you were going to
say as far as mirroring, but it's a different type
of mirror is we Where was I going with this? So,
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in my opinion, when we're able to what was I
saying with that topic, I've got a few different stories.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
We're talking about action steps, and you were within right.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
So everyone has it's whatever the action steps might be
for that person, you know, if it's finding more time
for themselves, if they're over worked, if they're burnt out,
if they're I mean they're all they're all interrelated. So
maybe they things are going really well at work, but
they're not going really well at home, you know, finding
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balance or finding priority in their life. So it's.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So what if they say to you, Gosh, that all
sounds great, Tanya, but I'm terrified. I can't do it.
You know, I'm immobilized. I can't change careers, can't leave
my husband. I can't you know, do all those things
that I know I should do. What how do you
deal with that kind of a situation.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, I think it would just be asking deeper questions.
You know, where did this fear come from? How is
this fear serving them? How is this supporting them? And
identifying what that is, how it place, how it takes
place in their life, and finding different different types of
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opportunities in those I'm a big believer in the looking
at the silver lining and how can we take this
as a learning experience, How can this awaken us to
a bigger purpose? And you know, again, it's all a
matter of choice. Nobody has to do anything you don't.
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I'm sure the life their lives are still perfectly comfortable.
And I think until people get to a pain point
or sometimes a pain threshold, or sometimes it's physical illness,
sometimes it's things that are very traumatic or change or
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big shifts will change in their life. I'm thinking of
the Tarot card, the tower card. You know, a tower,
some type of tower event will happen, and it's not
that it's bad. It's that that this is an experience
that you're given the opportunity to awaken and make a change,
or you don't. So I don't force anyone to change.
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I don't force anyone to do something that they don't
want to do. I help people to see that these
are all opportunities for us, opportunities for growth and learning
and change. And if you embrace that opportunity, sometimes you're
pleasantly surprised, and I feel that that takes you to
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another level. Again, there's no judgment, and no one's better
than anyone else. But it's just an evolution process. So again,
awareness when somebody becomes aware, in my opinion, right now,
with the energies that are taking place. A lot of
people are becoming aware and wondering. Again, I can't even
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it's hard for me to remember sometimes what that's like,
but it's I think it's encouraging. I'm inspired. I think
it's great and a lot of people are asking questions
and what do I do and where do I go?
And you know, how do I make changes? So I
think that's a great start. And again, I think every
person is different, and it's just like the dietitian or
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the personal trainer. You can't or anyone. You can't make
a person change. A person changes when they're ready and
they wake up and they're ready to evolve.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So yeah, yeah, well we need to take a bit
of a break and we'll be ripe back. I'm talking
to Donya Levinson and we're talking about escaping conformity and
waking up and being who you really are. We'll be
ripe back.
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Speaker 2 (28:45):
Welcome back and talking with Donya Levinson. Thank you so much.
I was thinking about it on the break that you
had mentioned before we got on the air that you
had a big experience when you were about twenty that
really shifted things for you. Can you share a little
bit about that, because I think you know, I've had
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a lot of personal experiences from day one in this
life really shifted me, but especially around that age for
myself as well. So what happened at that time in
your life?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I'm sorry? Which one was I? Which one was I
talking about?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You didn't get into details, but you said that there
was a it was a.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Some kind of a big oh where I realized that
I wasn't my body.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yes, there you go, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I've had a few. So I I was going
to a very expensive uh studio in downtown in the
city of Chicago for laser laser hair removal on my
arms and it seemed to be going well. And then
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the third treatment right before my friend's wedding, Oh my gosh.
I was supposed to be in the wedding and I
received third degree burns on my arms, and so it
was pretty traumatic. I mean, nobody wants a lawsuit because
that's not good for anything, but it was. It was
pretty bad. And my boss at the time say, said,
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you can work from home. So this was a long
time ago when people didn't work from home, and I
always worked on the We didn't have zoom, we didn't
have video, we worked on the telephone. And I was
surrounded by books and I was sitting there with all
the wrappings on, and I heard you're not your body,
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and I thought, well, who in the world is talking
to me? You're you know, you're more than your body.
And things just sort of started opening up from there,
and that's when I started diving deeper into my own
personal healing, regardless of everything that I had as in
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my childildhood and in my youth and my young adult
and I really dug in and did the work, and
this was something that I was able to bring to
my clients as well, and it's just been ever evolving.
So with the energies that we're all going through right now,
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with whatever you want to call it, awakening, reascension, Golden Age, whatever,
whatever the label is, it's something that a lot of
people are experiencing and everybody doesn't understand what this is.
It's it's a very it's a big shift. It's just
a big shift. And I find that there it's really
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beneficial when you use small steps, small tools, humanities waking up.
I mean, look, they're bringing in they're bringing in troops
to Chicago right now. I mean, it's it's what's going on.
You know, what's going on every day is something different.
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So I think this is happening on a macro level
right now. It just is. But what we can each
do is work on whatever we're working on individually, and
when we do that, I believe this is how we're
shifting this world. And when we're coming together in groups
like this talking about it from a very healed perspective,
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I mean, it's an ever evolving process and we're speaking
from a very healed perspective and intuitive perspective, I think
we're really this is what we came here to do.
This is what we came here to help humanity do.
Right now.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We chose it. Yeah, so what do you think it
is leading to? What is the ultimate Golden Age going
to look like?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
That's a good question. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I asked you first.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Okay, I can give you my opinion. I'd love to
hear yours, though. Also I feel that it's interesting. I've
always used the analogy of a turkey pan that it's
it's really you know, it's gross, it's grimy, but when
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you get all those bubbles and you clean it off,
you've got that shiny pan underneath. So I don't exactly
know what that pan looks like. But I truly believe
that we will all come back into our own sovereign power.
We will. So we're we're we're we're letting all this dirty,
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ugly turkey stuff. You know, that's what we're seeing right
now that we can't it's it's I don't think we
forced it to happen. I think this is just part
of the process, you know, So I don't think everything
is always exactly this is. I mean, I guess it
kind of is. It's it's it's it's all the ugliness
being exposed and coming out, you know, and what's being
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hidden as being exposed. I don't know. I just I
think it's I think it's going to be whatever people
want it to be, you know. I think we'll all
have we all have different passions, we all have interests,
we all have likes, and somehow we will all pull
that together. We'll use our strengths. It's not that we're
gonna sit around and do nothing, but it will be.
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I kind of always felt like this would be good
for my son and I, you know, with any children,
you know, what do you like to do, what are
you good at? And then learn and study that as
opposed to everybody goes to school, everyone learns this. You know,
maybe this one subject for one person is not as
good as it is for the other person. So I
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think everyone will be coming back together helping to rebuild
this world that we're all cohabitating, and everyone will be
using their strengths in whatever way that is. And I
think we're just going to be reversing this and healing it,
healing through it, reversing it. It's just like healing any wound,
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you know, it doesn't just stoppen overnight and talking about
a wound, but it kind of is like a wound
and really healing this, and people who have the experience
and people who have the strengths and who want to
help humanity that they will be participating. I mean, I
can turn on internet any day and I see all
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types of interesting things that healing music, healing art. There's
so many different ways. There's so many different ways. We
even have around here, like farmers market fresh food. Hey,
I'll take some of the huts please. You know, I'm
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grateful that the farmers bring the food. I think it's amazing.
I'm grateful. So I think it's I mean, I don't
think we're gonna be going back to where everyone has
to farm their own lane, but just making it more accessible.
I was even talking about this the other day. I said,
I think it would be great to have a little
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drive through. I'm here to pick up, you know, the
fresh lettuce and the zucchini, and just drive through a
drive through vegetable garden, fruit and vegetable. I mean, can
you imagine. I think it's very easible, easy and doable.
I don't see why not. So I think it's going
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to be a lot more of that and creating a
system that works and one that is supporting the people.
There is a person I know of who starts speaking,
and I think everyone has a different perspective on how
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they can support humanity. So I think it'll be I
think it'll be very interesting. I'm here for it. I
can't wait to see it. I have this far. I
am truly grateful for all of the healing, all of
the opportunity, you know, all of the experiences that I've had,
because this is really I believe we are the ones
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we who've been waiting for and this is in my
lifetime and I couldn't be more intrigued to see how
this will all play out, truly. But I think things
are happening faster. I think with the energies they feel
it just feels like they're happening faster and faster to me.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I don't know about you, Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah.
And I going back to what you were saying about
my mirroring concept. Yeah, Basically, what I teach over and
over and over again for over forty years is that
everything that pushes you about and everything that triggers you
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is showing you a mirror of something about yourself that
you in denial of or have suppressed. So all the
stuff that's going on, it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
That turkey is dropping more and more stuff for us
to take a look and go, oh, that's me. That's
just dropping all that stuff in the pan, and I
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need to look at that, and then when I do,
I can clean it off and it doesn't affect me anymore.
So that's what I'm seeing happening. That we don't get it.
I know in my own life, I didn't get stuff
until it was in my face and I couldn't run
from it, you know, And that's right now. We can't
run from the fact that they're sending troops into Chicago.
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You know. It's like, Okay, what do we need to
get from this? And it might sound very Pollyanna, but
I think eventually the civilization is going to go back
to how we used to be, which was love, you know,
pure and simple. So I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
What does that look like? What does that look like exactly?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It looks like. We come from non judgment, non judgment.
We accept people, we accept people that are different. We
don't have to conform to some notion that the world
is telling us to be, because it's not telling us
to be that anymore. It's telling us to be who
we are, the authentic Yeah. And there was a time
in our civilization that we were like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
So programmed well, and I still think we're getting a
lot of that as well. I mean, you you know,
there's there's labels, there's it's just it's it's it's kind
of gone extreme in my opinion right now. You know,
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there are a lot of other new programs. I'm some
of the information they're teaching them in school is you know,
it's shocking. So I think it's still taking place.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, yeah, slowly yes, or rapidly it's right, the speeding
up of the boulder going down the hill. It really is.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
So you have something that you call an intuitive guidance checklist?
What is that tell us about.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
That I do? And my computer decided to not work
right now. This is something that can assist you in
using your intuition to create your daily life. It's oh,
I asked, and then it turned on, Hey, how do
you like that? That was good? Yeah, And it's like
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I said before, what I feel is really important is
connecting to your higher self because you can get distracted
of where this information is coming from. Or again, we've
we've we've sometimes been told it's all about this outside.
But to your your point with the mirror, you know
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this is in my opinion, this is all a reflection
of whatever you're speaking, whatever you're telling yourself, it's all
a program. Your cells are all listening. Our bodies are
over seventy percent water. There's a book by doctor Maciramoto,
The Hidden Messages and Water, and he shows photographs, photographs
of crystal structures of words onto water. You know, hate
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and fear and then love, joy and happiness, and you
can see how the water molecules shift and change. So,
knowing that our body's over seventy percent water, it makes
you stop and think sometimes, what am I speaking? What
am I expecting? You know? How am I connected to
all of this? So my opinion is is when we
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really connect with our heart, with our higher self and
we move forward about our day, that we will and
if we ask, if you want, of course, we have
free will. But if you like intuitive guidance to help
you move along, it's a great tool. I don't know
if I want to call a tool, but it's a
great tool, and that's how you can start moving out
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of the conforming for society and you'll be given they're
kind of guides or clues of how to move forward
in your day. And that's, in my opinion, where you're
truly connected to your higher self to your physical body,
and you're kind of giving yourself breadcrumbs all along the
way of how to move forward through your day. And
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I find it magical. I love it. I absolutely think
it's the best. You know, again, it's just a tool.
There's so many and what the checklist does is gives
you indications of what they might be. A lot of
people get these already. But then it's working with your
higher self and moving forward in your day, your week,
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your month, your year, whatever your goals are. It's just
it's a nice, real it's a fun tool to practice
and get really good at and use it throughout your day.
So connecting to your higher self when you first wake
up or whatever time works for you. You know, I don't
think you have to sit there in meditation necessarily. I
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think maybe it's washing dishes or something else, or driving
in your car. It could be again, everything I find
is very different for each individual, and then taking inspired actions.
You know, we can't just sit around and wish and like, oh,
everything's working out for me. I mean, yeah everything, Maybe
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everything is working out for you. But when you get
the signs, when you get the clues, when you get
the indications, then you take action. And maybe you need
to sit down and look at the pros and the
cons and use your intellect, use your brain. You know,
this is not just focus pocus, but bringing it all together,
connecting with your higher self and being as off. This
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is the authenticity part, being your true authentic self moving
forward in this lifetime. So does that answer? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah so so. So it's basically connect, ask for guidance,
trust it, and take action.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
And this something is there more?
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Well no, no, that's it, No, that's it. But you
know it's just it's if you don't use your intuition,
it's learning you know where it might come from, orre
noticing the synchronistic events and then testing it out and
is this working for me? Is it not? And then
sometimes people get their own different type of information. I've
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been using numbers for as long as I can remember,
and sometimes people will say well, what is this number?
And again I think there's for me, a certain number
has a certain message because I've learned what that message is.
So for each person, it's not always the exact same
answer for numbers either. But numbers are really powerful. Numbers
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are really powerful. And we just had ninety niney nine, So.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That's true. We did.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, that was so.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
But I find that again in our society, in our world.
First of all, we're not taught about intuition. Nobody tells us, oh,
this is what intuition feels like, and this is what
you should look for. And even if we were, there's
still that weird thing in society that says, oh, intuition,
you're weird. You know, you've got to listen to logic
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and you've got to research, and you know, we're not
taught that intuition is valuable. Not only valuable, it's imperative.
It's who we are. So how do you help people
to get to that point where they can trust it
and value it?
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah, I think that's a great point. And I've always
used my intol I trust that more than a lot.
I think it's about taking small actions. I don't think
you should say, well, let me just sell my house.
And I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that,
but let me just sell my house and move across
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the country. Maybe that is right for you. It's very
possible that it is, but maybe you might want to
just start taking baby steps first. You know, I'm getting
a message to call this person or this person their
name just keeps coming back to me. Maybe there's something
that I need to reach out to this person. And
then the person says, oh, you know, actually I have
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an open position. It's across the country. I was thinking
about you. Maybe you want this, And then you think, whoa,
I couldn't have planned that better. Then I couldn't have
planned that better. And you start moving forward in that way,
and maybe they're small steps. Maybe that's small or big,
whatever it is for you, and moving through your day
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and realizing that you are truly a co creator, that
that is what we're doing right now. So using your
co creative abilities for good, and I don't want to
label good, but in beneficial ways, you know, benevolent ways,
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for you, for your highest good, for the highest good,
for all humanity.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
So I find that in the beginning, when I first
started thinking, I was listening to my intuition. I was
actually listening to my fears, and I was listening to
the part of me that wanted something to be so like,
for example, I was dating this guy and I so
much wanted the relationship to work, and I started finding
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myself looking for signs, you know, Oh, look at that
license plate it says you know something, and it's like, oh,
it must mean that this is going to work out
with this guy. And look at that billboard, you know.
And it was all just wishful thinking. And it did
not end up working out with that guy. But I
learned a lot of lessons about what intuition really feels like.
It doesn't feel like that contrived, wishful you know. Look,
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I want this to work, so please show me a song.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I think I. There was someone I was speaking
to and she said, oh, and then I saw the
word green all day and I thought, Okay, I that
is not your answer that you know a lot of anyway,
I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, to tell people, how, how does intuition usually feel
for or do you feel like it's it's really different
for everybody.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah. Again, I feel like it's different for everybody because
I and I agree that that's a good point. You know,
sometimes there's this wishful thinking, and then they'll say, you know,
I heard a song. Well, we hear lots of music,
you know, so that's a great question. Again, I don't
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think it's just throwing caution to the wind for any
and all life decisions. I think when you have work
through a lot of healing on your own, you evolve
to a different level where your awareness of the way
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this is all playing out is different. You see the differences.
And again, just like children who go to preschool, you
don't just send the child to elementary and say, you know, hey,
I hope, I wish you the best. You're gonna do it.
You know, they need some type of training. There's some
type of shift and ease and transition. And this is
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a clock. This is how we read a clock, you know,
just to a basic understandings. And then people either again
I compare this all the time to the dietician and
the sports trainer. Al is this working? Are you being
are you holding yourself accountable? Are you doing this because
you want to shift and change or are you doing
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this for other reasons? If there are other reasons, what
are those how do we identify those and support you
in that direction, because in my opinion, it's something that.
Speaker 4 (50:22):
You need.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
It needs to be an internal intrinsic motivation for your evolution.
And again, just like a toddler, it's important to go
through certain stages. That's how we grow, that's how we evolve,
that's how we see differently. And you can always look
back and think, you know, maybe you just graduated high
school and look back and think, wow, I didn't think
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I would ever get out of diapers. You know. It's so,
it's just it's but you have a different, completely different
perspective now you have such a different perspective, and you know, oh,
maybe it's not every time I just see green, the
letter green all day and think, oh, oh, Green's an answer.
It's but you have to start somewhere, you know. So
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I don't think any of it's bad. There's nothing bad,
there's nothing good. It's wherever your evolution is, wherever you are.
I think the beauty of it is is that we're
able to discuss things like this. Now, this was not
discussed when I was younger. It was actually quite the opposite,
and I knew what I knew. I think everybody's intuitive.
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Everybody's intuitive, but it's where are you coming from? And
how are you using this? And are you even aware?
But we're all intuitive, and I don't think any of
us are more special than the other person. Some of
us just developed our intuition in different ways or because
we had to, or because we were in a traumatic
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experience and we had to rely on something else and
that was really real. So everyone develops it in different
different ways, in different patterns. And like I said, I've
mine's been developed through many different experiences. It's not just one's,
it's just a multitude. But I can look back at
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that now and I'm grateful. I you know, sometimes people say, oh,
you're you're so calm, and it doesn't These things don't
bother you. And I just have a different perspective. I
just have a different perspective, and I see where I
try to take a different viewpoint of where everyone is
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in their evolution and appreciate that and appreciate them, and
you know, again, focus on myself, focus on what I control,
what I can't control if I want to, And I
think everyone else is able to do the same and
learn how to use their intuition and moving through this shift,
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this energetic shift that we're going through where we don't
all have to be conformed and we are just you know,
squeezing out and being birthed. Then great, you know, here
we go. So I think I think some of us
have been training for this for a long time, and
I think it's I think it's great. I think it's
great that we can help share the tools, the information,
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what we've learned through our challenges, through our struggles, through
our trauma, and and be able to speak openly and
be authentic about it. And that's what I do. I
you know, I have a lot of stories and a
lot of experiences that have brought me to this point.
And if I can help somebody else and help them shift,
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or help share something that I've been through and maybe
it's similar, or share a perspective that helps them wake up,
that's it makes my day, Absolutely makes my day.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Tell us how tell everybody how to reach you. We
only have like a minute or so to tell give
your contact information.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Absolutely, you can go my website Outrageous liberation dot com.
I have a services page you can schedule with me.
I also read tarot cards oracle cards. I use crystal
energy healing and of course empowerment coaching, and I go
live on TikTok twice a week. They're fun. It's live
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by the lake I live. We go live at Lake Michigan.
It's one of the great lakes, so water's really healing,
it's really powerful, and we have affirmations and other things
that people just really find our beneficial to start their
day and really help shift their energy.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
Great. Well, thank you so much, Donya.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
I really appreciate thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
You've up the good work and we're going to make
it through these changes and get back to the low. Yes,
and thank all of you for being here. And just
remind you, I'm doing a little seminar through Home Times
all about mirroring and it is scheduled for Sunday, October
I'm sorry, Sunday, September twenty one. I think it is
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at four pm Pacific time, and we'll be sending out
information about that and hope you can join us. Thank
you again. We'll see you all next week.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Thank you,