Debbie Dobbins – Soul-Connected Investing - Perfect Life Awakening

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show hosted by Royce Morales.
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Welcome to my show. I just have to say
that it's not often that I invite people back to
be on my show, but this particular guest was so
wonderful the last time, and I got so many great
comments about her that I said, I just have to
get her back. So I did. And let me just

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introduce her. Let me remind everybody a little bit about
de w Dobbins before she just jumps in and starts
talking up a storm. I just love how you talk.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
So inspiring. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
So Debbie's life went from addiction, cancer, broke, and living
on food stamps to a globally acclaimed international prosperity consciousness
speaker and tea. Sure, this radical reinvention not only healed
her body and rebuilt her wealth. She imagined what true

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success means. And now she shares it with others. And
I think that's such an important thing that you do.
She reveals how to awaken your natural prosperity consciousness, which
we all have in there, buried.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's all there, and as you call it, your inner
billionaire for real sustainable wealth, by teaching that abundance is
not reserved for the few.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You know how many of you feel that it's just
reserved those special people. So she says that it is
our birthright, and it's of course hidden under layers of
limiting beliefs, patterns, social conditionings, fear, guilt, all of that stuff.
And she wrote another book. Last time we were talking

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about her first book, and this is her second book,
and it's called Rooted in Wealth, Health, Investing Beyond Money.
So today we're going to talk about investing, which is
really not what you think I have to say because
this is a very spiritual, spiritually based program, and oh

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why is she talking about investing. So I'm just going
to talk about that because it's really beyond money. It's
about investing in your soul, investing from a soul connected place,
and deserving to receive prosperity. So I think it's interesting

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to mention that her books are both about awakening your
natural prosperity consciousness aligning with universal principles. Principles I think
that's so important, creating sustainable abundance, discovering and living from
a place that you know that the universe is abundant,
just like nature. It just keeps creative self and that

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we are part and one with the universe. That is
so important to remember. If the universe is abundant, we
can be abundant too. One of the things that Debbie
has said, which I wrote down because I love it,
is that money is God in motion. I just think
that's important and it's probably one of our most important relationships.

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You know, we might think it's with our spouse or
our best friend or our dog, whatever, But it's about money.
We have such screwy relationships with it, which I hope
you get into today. So thank you Debbie for being here.
I'm so glad that you're here now. First of all,
before we get into all of your beautiful information about

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soul centered investment, tell us your story. How did you
get into all of this?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, it's very interesting. I am writing a talk
to be given at UCLA in a couple of weeks,
and I was reflecting on people ask me this all
the time. When did you start down on this path?
Because our path is much like Joseph Campbell's hero's journey.
They are going to be dragons. There's gonna be ogres

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that we all have this opportunity. And I write in
my first book, Your Inner Billionaire, Oh, I can't see
that you're in a billionaire And that's stuff to ignite
the frequency of that abundance within us. But I talk
about those dragons that I've explored in my life, which
are drug addiction. Oh, in the irs, they had a

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lean on me of half a million dollars, which you
can't do anything with an I R. S. Leane, and
then being diagnosed with recto cancer and thriving after that,
and then rebuilding my wealth after being broken on food stamps.
Those things created who I am today. And then I
began to look back a little further, and I remember

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when I was in fifth grade, I read the book
Charlotte's Web and I thought, oh, my gosh, that is
such a beautiful metaphor for where I ended up in
my life. And all those principles, just like everybody else's
stories about anything and particularly money, were downloaded. And the optimism.

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Even though I was going through all those experiences, I
knew that at any time that I made a decision,
I could create something else. And I believe that we
all are on these paths. And the more I talk
to women and coach clients, I hear these stories of
that we have all been through these transitions. We said, Oh,

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we learned that we had to do certain things in
order to be the perfect human, whatever that ends up being.
And then we get to a certain point in our
lives where we go. Is that all there is? And
I feel like this calling. There's a great song by
an artist named Jamie Lula says, something's calling me deeper.
And I really believe that we start out that way

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and then we forget, and then along the journey we
pick up some breadcrumbs, because on this hero's journey, we're
being led somewhere and we're gonna run into some obstacles,
and it's how we deal with those that will season us,
if you will, because we can just pull the covers
up over our head and say I don't want to
do this anymore, or we can say this is fire

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that's refining me to become the person that I'm ultimately
here to be, because I believe that everyone has a
purpose here, Every single entity, sentient being has a purpose.
And what is that? How do I serve this beautiful
world that we live in? And as you said in
the very beginning, we're all part of nature. We're all one.

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So if we're all one, we're all looking at ourselves,
which is so fascinating because then the time that we
live in where people are pointing fingers like I don't
like you because and I think you're talking to your stuff,
because we are all one. We are one in this
thing called nature, and it is our right or birthright
to be this abundant self. So I've been on a

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hero's journey, multiple different paths, wonderful. At the time, they
may not have seemed so wonderful, and yet I knew
even when I was going through them the hardest times,
they were the idea that Charlotte shared with the Pig
of Wilburg, you are You're a great being, and I'm
going to show the world and be very direct about

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it with my language, because one of the messages in
Charlotte's web is the speaking she wove in her web,
these beautiful sayings like fantastic and some pig. We have
lost that notion that our words are so powerful beyond measure,
and that those are just a reflection of who we
are being inside. And words are one of those things

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that I will talk about as we talk through this
together today, that those are what build who we are,
who birth who we are. Because if we're not paying
attention to those words, those language, those thoughts, those emotions,
and we're just doing it on autopilot, we're going to
get the same results that we have been getting for

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whatever the previous years or days or hours of our
lives were. Before my life has been very It's not
a straight line. Life isn't a straight line. It's up
and down and all around. And when we begin to
say this is the beauty of it because without darkness,
we don't have light. We can't understand it. With light,
we don't see darkness. So we live in a world

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of duality. And yet we want to say one of
these dualities is wrong or bad or we don't like it,
when the truth is, let's just love it all. Let's
just love every single juicy minute of it. And when
we get to the end, we leave without. What most
people say on their deathbed is they regret not doing
something because because this is this is the ultimate idea,

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because we are not guaranteed one more minute on this life,
not one more minute. So what are we investing in?
How are we investing in ourselves? So that's the that's
the message I want to talk about today is how
do we invest in in life in general?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So let's talk about that because because basically, how do
you define or redefine investing in your language? What does
that mean to you? Right?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
So I love the idea that investing particularly for women
or even people that don't even understand money. Because the
first book that I wrote was Your Inner Billionaire, and
it's it's designed to be a trilogy. Ignite your I
mean your Inner Billionaires, to ignite your frequency. Then rooted
in wealth is to begin to understand how you invest

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in life. And then the last one will be the
time vender, because what we all want is more time. Anyways,
that's where we believe re freedom is that I've learned
that from talking to people and so investing. What most
people don't understand is that investing is not that hard
if you drill it down to it's a return on

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the investment. What is your return? But also what's a
return on your integrity? Because we are not paying attention
to what we do every single day to create the
outcome that we will see tomorrow. Because if we understand
the concept of consciousness and metaphysics and quantum physics, whatever

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we do right now creates the next moment that is
creating our reality. So if we want to create a
reality that has more wealth in it, more abundance, more health,
more joy, we have to invest right now. So how
do we do that? The return on our investment is
our reality. That's as simple as you can make it.

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And so when we break it down that way, people
get confused that investing is own investing in the stock
market or a four to oh one k, or real
estate or passive income, which those are all brilliant ideas,
and I have taught those for decades. And anybody that
has a money story that's limiting or poverty based, they'll

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I don't care how many tools or ideas I can
share with them, they will continue to push them away
from their unconscious and not receive anything as a result
of it. Because I've heard many many stories, Well, you
taught me how to invest in real estate, but every
deal that I have falls apart. Well, okay, that's because
the story is still running. So that's why I always share.

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Do the igniting first, which is that frequency, which is
the inner billionaire, and then we talk about investing, because investing,
as I said, can be so many different paths. And
the thing that I share so often with women and
men as well, is that we've all relegated ourselves to
this idea of time for dollars that's not our value.

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But when we strip the time for time for dollars
away conversation and we say I am worth this much
meaning you can put a dollar figure on it, which
is just a symbol. But when we begin to say
I am so valuable, the universe says because it always
responds with the answer yes. It's like improv. If you've

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ever learned improv, what you say in improv is yes,
and you never say no to your partner in improv.
This is what the universe does for us. It says yes.
And and so if I say I am worthy, I
am valuable, I trust myself, then the universe says yes.
And what else would you like? But if I am

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unconsciously saying I'm not worth, you know what, it says yes.
And I'm going to give you more of that because
that is really simply what is happening here. So when
we invest, it's about looking at what kind of return
on investment am I giving myself. So I'm going to
use an example that's very common these days, and that's

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constantly scrolling on social media. That's the thing that's our
age of aquarias, if you will. And so investing in
that kind of action does not have a return on investment.
I can assure you well, it has an investment. It's
a different kind that you don't necessarily enjoy because literally

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we're not investing in ourselves. When we're doing that, we're
investing in other people's ideas to allow them to influence us.
So the first idea of investment is to take radical
responsibility for our actions, whatever those might be, because there's
so many different ways to invest, not just financially, but

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going back to the time for dollars example, I always
encourage anybody that starts down this path to begin to
look at how can I expand my value receiving vehicle
Because if I am going to a job, I call
it just overbroke job. If I go there, I'm going

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to get this dollar amount that says you work this much,
you work this much time, you get this much money.
And that is what I call a fixed income. We've
all often said fixed income is if you're on Social
Security or medical. The fact is is it's really a job.
So when we invest in ourselves, we begin to expand
our bucket of receiving. So what might that look like

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becoming an entrepreneur or becoming somebody that knows understands passive
income because that's a form of investment. So you could
invest in things like stocks or real estate four oh
one ks. You could create something and get royalties. But
once we began to expand our bucket of receiving, then

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we receive more. But because we limit it, then we
receive less. And so one of those paradigm shifts is
what I talk about in the first book. You're in
a billionaire, but then I take it to this next
level in rooted in wealth. So the first place you
want to start is how do I invest? To begin with,
you invest in yourself. That's the very first thing. I

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wouldn't say, go from zero to I don't know anything investing,
and then go by investment real estate. Oh, that can
be done, but it's about how am I investing in me?
Every single day? And when you root yourself in that
wealth principle of how am I investing in me, then
things begin to shift and morph, and then opportunities will

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begin to show up.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Can you give us an example of what you mean
by investing in you? What does that look like?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
So every day when you wake up, you can ask
yourself what would be a good opportunity for me to
invest in myself. So there's basic components of our life.
There's our spiritual life, there's our health and our body existence.
There is wealth, there are relationships. So those main four

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categories we begin to look at how are we building
and investing in those areas. So, for example, and I
always share this example about health, because we cannot begin
to feel a sense of freedom or a sense of
wealth if we are sick, like I know that because

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I was, and it was a time where I used
it to invest in myself. During that time, even though
I was laid flat on my back and going through treatment,
I spent the majority of my time meditating. That was
one of my healing processes, So that in and of
itself was an investment in me. So for health purposes,
we could invest in meditation, We could invest in walking.

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We could invest in moving our bodies in a new way.
We could invest in the way we put food or
nutrition into our bodies. We don't think of those things.
We put them in categories like I should like I
should do this, and I will be healthier, instead of
saying this is how I decide to invest in me.

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If I decided I want to invest in relationships, I
have to begin to examine what relationships are not giving
me a return on my investment. So I know that
everybody listening has had relationships or may have current relationships
that are not feeding their soul at all. As a
matter of fact, they're draining them on a daily basis.

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So somebody that has a boss or a coworker that
just every time they walk into that environment, their whole
energy level goes down. They start to feel unhappy, depressed, upset,
whatever version of feelings that is. So we have to
begin to see what relationships do we have in our
life that we are not using to support to get

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a return of investment, which says, I'm supported by people
that encourage me. I'm supported by people that support me.
I'm supported by people that give me happiness and joy.
Because all of these things we don't really pay attention
to them. We think we do, but then we put
ourselves in all these different circumstances, whether it be with
our money, or our health, or our relationships, or even

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our spirituality. I need so many people that are spiritual right,
and yet they'll say one thing on one conversation and
then they are completely out of alignment with their spirituality
or what they're professing in a different conversation or in
a different environment. So that is part of being congruent
investing in what are my core values because the values

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will determine what your spiritual life is all about. And
looking at how am I creating even a mission statement
about my values so that I live only from that
space instead of being pulled in any direction by whoever
you happen to be around at any point. So there
are so many of these areas of our lives that

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we are not paying attention to and saying, how am
I investing in me to get a return on that
instment so that I grow in those areas of my life.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
So back to relationships. And I don't mean to say
this in an argumentative way, just as kind of like
the way I look at things spiritually. If I'm in
a relationship that doesn't feed my soul or you know,
gives me a return on my investment, I find that
there's a reason for that. There's something I need to

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see about myself. Why have I attracted somebody that doesn't
feed my soul? Why have I chosen somebody that triggers
me all the time? Or whatever it is, So that,
in a sense is a return on my investment that
I get to hear. I get to find out what
that person is reflecting to me, so that I can
absolutely change that story from within and either stay with

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that person and feed my own soul or find somebody
that you know fits the bill.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Shall we say? So? How no, I agree with that.
And I was I was on a call yesterday and
a a woman that I was interviewing. We were talking
about this very thing about relationships, that every relationship. She
wrote a book something the Seven Steps on how to
Heal a Bad Relationship. I can't remember the exact title,

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but I said, oh my god, so you wrote a
handbook on that, right, how to have a bad one,
but how to go through them, because every relationship is
there as a teacher, and I had a spiritual teacher
one time years ago, say to me, relationships are grist
for the spiritual mill. So if you think about that, though,
that's an investment as well. A mill would be A

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mill would be an investment for a farmer to take
whatever crops they have to turn them into something else
so that they could sell them at market for a
higher price. So that really is think about that trajectory.
That is an investment. So the investment, as you just said,
is what is the grist that I am creating, How
is this relationship here to serve me? Because I'm not

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suggesting that if we have relationships in our life that
are incongruent with who we are, that we just ignore
them or walk away from them, because you know, wherever
you go, there you are, so we will get to
experience it again. And they are there to help us
invest in ourselves, to look within, to look into our
own spiritual nature, to look into our stories that we

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tell ourselves. And then I have also said many many
times in my life, if you have more of an
attachment to something and emotion, particularly from another person, that
is above or around the I mean above what you
feel around your bedroom slippers, then that's where the work is.
That's where the insight is. Because I believe that triggers

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are one of our best portals. When somebody triggers you,
that is an opportunity to say, oh my gosh, why
is this triggering me? Because it's always about us anyways,
we are just reflecting those people. But also, as you said,
I want to say, why did I create this reflection?
Because there's something within me? But that is the investment.

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How do I heal whatever is inside of me? That
I am projecting that outward. It's never about them, but
it's also the key to what's happening. What am I?
Why am I seeing this? Because it's and it's not
about shame. Also, I think people get confused when I
have this conversation that I'm bad or wrong because I

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created it. The truth is it's just information. It's just information.
And I actually had somebody yesterday text me about something
that I had sent a text and I loved Don
Miguel Ruis's book The Four Agreements, right. One of the
four agreements is don't take anything personally. So when we

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can detach ourselves from the personal attachment and the trigger,
then we can begin to invest in who we are.
She was very upset that she felt she felt that
I wasn't appreciative because I had just been you know,
rudimentary in my text. But here's the thing is, I
can't take responsibility for anybody else's feelings either. I think

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that's one of the most important things that we must
learn as humans, is that what other people think about
us is none of our business. And that doesn't mean
that we're callous, it doesn't mean that we're detached. It
just means that I'm responsible for me. I'm responsible for
my feelings, my actions, my thoughts, and my words. And

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if I take full responsibility for those coming from that
place of love, then there isn't anything for me to
do besides that other than to reflect on what is
happening if I'm triggered. But you're right, absolutely, those are
grist for the spiritual mill. I love that about relationships.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, I've never known the translation of that, uh saying
I always use it, but yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
So you talk about stories, the stories that we tell ourselves,
which is why we manifest poverty and all that stuff.
How do you help people not only get in touch
with the story, because I think that getting in touch
with it is really important. It's like it opens a portal,
but to get to the point where they resolve it.

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Do you assist people in that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
So there's two schools of thought on this idea of
do I need to go back and know what caused
the story because I like that. I like that modality,
And at the same time, I will say it is
not necessary because I know this is a really strange example.

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But I had this thought the other day. I was
out walking by the lake and I had just done
an activity with some women and we were looking at
pictures to evoke emotions, and one of the emotions that
was evoked in me was looking at some very turbulent water.
Now I have had this undeniable sense that water in

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its power is almost as scary thing to me. I
don't like to drive over bridges that go over water.
And I've always said, you know, isn't that interesting because
this could be intergenerational. It doesn't mean that it happened
in this lifetime. This is what's important to know is
that all of our beliefs don't just start in this lifetime.

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They are generational. So I'm walking by the lake and
I'm sort of having a conversation with myself, which is,
you know, the universe, And this thing came up for
me that I had this flash of a memory when
I was a kid of this neighbor who had a pool,
and I remember that he always used to push us
under and I felt, you know, I mean like I

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was drowning. And so I thought, well, isn't that interesting.
I wonder if those two things are connected. Because everything
is just downloaded into this place called subconscious, which is
the womb where we put all of our beliefs. That
we have experiences that create them, but then they're also
delivered through the generations. And I thought, you know, that

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could be, that could be, and yet it's not. I
knew at that moment it wasn't that important for me
to identify that. I just need to know that this
is uncomfortable for me. That I have a very deep
respect for water. I mean, if I'm in the ocean
and it's turbulent, I don't disrespect it. And yet it's

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one of those beliefs that I carry with me and
it's not something that's impacting my life per se, even
though I do, you know, I clam up because we
do have that fear reaction when we have certain experiences
in our life. So it's the same thing though, that
fear of when I'm driving over a bridge when there's

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water involved. That same clenching is the thing that I
want to release, because somebody can have that same fear
reaction just taking care of paying their bills. Literally, it's
that thing that we do that locks us up in
the physical form that then is the electromagnetic energy that

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has all the cortosol get released in these chemicals in
our body. So just becoming aware of how we're feeling
is the first step. And that story, we can uncover it.
We can begin to dissect it, we can tease it out,
and sometimes that's very helpful. Sometimes it's helpful to do
age regression, meaning multiple lifetimes going backwards. All of these

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modalities work. I mean, energy is energy, and when we
tap into the desire to heal whatever is in us
that is keeping us from enjoying life to its fullest.
There are so many different modalities that I don't feel
if I'm attached to any of them. I believe that

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everyone knows innately because their intuition will guide them to
their answers. And I always do meditations with the Akasha
field because the fact is is that all of the
answers are available to us for everything, every single question
we could ever want. And find it also interesting that

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people are out there promoting that they can take you
on the journey to show you what's in the big
library as I call it, you know, the consciousness library.
Only I don't need a guide. I am my guide.
So I think that's really one thing that I want
to make sure that I clearly state to everybody, this
is a self journey. This isn't anybody can help you.

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Like the hero's journey, you can get guides, right, you
can have mentors that lead you through your hero's journey.
And using a mythical example, but it's us. We are
the heroes every single one of these scenarios. We save ourselves.
So all of that comes from our knowingness, our intuition,

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our connection to the oneness. So once we get that clear,
because we're always searching for somebody to help us, people
can show us, but we ultimately are the arbiter and
make the choices. So I really think it's important for
people to understand that no matter what modality you use.

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I mean, there are crystals, there are affirmations, there are
oracle cards, there are you know, energy healers. There's so
much out there, and I love them all, and yet
something will resonate with one person, then another person goes, oh,
that's too woo woo for me. Yes, okay, that's fine,
we don't do that one. Because everybody has their own

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frequency of what trajectory they're on, and so opening up
to hearing your own intuition, that's really the first step
is we have so many influencers out there in the
world right now that people are looking and seeking through
them when the answers already lie right here. So it's
tapping into our own knowingness is the very first step.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, And sometimes people need to hear it from somebody
else so that they can believe it about themselves too.
So yeah, and if you're using it for that, that's great.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
But if you're using it because that's going to fix me,
that's a different energy. Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Absolutely, yes. So I'm talking with Debbie Dobbins and we'll
take a little bit of a break and we'll be
right back and talk about more. I want to talk
about universal laws because you mentioned that in some of
your work, and I'd like you to talk a little
bit more about that in terms of investing. We'll be
right back.

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Speaker 2 (34:17):
Welcome back. I'm talking with Debute Dobbins talking about soul
based in investment and all kinds of interesting information. You
talk about the importance of understanding universal laws, and one
of those laws, I believe it's a law, is the

(34:37):
law of integrity that where you come from, your level
of integrity, your level of responsibility and not blaming and
doing all that stuff that you talked about earlier really
manifest You know that if you're coming from a place
of you know, I'm going to take advantage of somebody,

(34:58):
or I'm going to do something illegal, you know, something
like that, the integrity is off and the universe reflects
that in some way. So talk about that a little bit,
the universal laws and integrity.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
So I want to start this conversation about universal law
using universal laws that everybody understands. So gravity, everybody that
lives on the planet, even if you don't even understand
the concept of gravity, it's like, oh, oh, if I
drop that, that's what happens. I mean, gravity is a
universal law. You cannot change it. It doesn't say, oh,

(35:34):
you don't want it to be that way, we'll just
change that for you. Electricity is one of those things thorodynamics.
These are universal laws, and the way that they operate
is on The Bible uses this phrase. It rains on
the just and the djust alike. So the very first
thing I want to talk about is that principle that

(35:56):
it is not it's not a judger. The laws does
not judge. It just responds. And as I said earlier,
it says yes, and here is the way you input it.
This is how it's coming out. So when it comes
to understanding that universal law in the consciousness, and it

(36:18):
will use the word manifestation for lack of a better word,
because it really is just creating the form. The form
is created in our reality the way that we feel
it our vibratory frequency. So whatever our frequency is, that
is what is going to be outpictured. So if you
want to know what your frequency is, look around you
and you're going to know. So there are vibratory frequencies

(36:40):
for things like love, hate, jealousy, compassion, All of those
have a frequency, and there was a I'm going to
forget his name, but there was a gentleman in Japan
that did these experiments a number of years ago where
we put words of labels on water and then they
froze the water in the crystals, and I mean, it's

(37:02):
just kind of remarkable how the distortion in the crystal
formation is so different with the negative words. So it's
already been defined that certain energies and feelings and words
have low vibratory signatures and other ones have hyper vibratory signatures.
So in order for us to experience those things, we

(37:26):
will have those downloaded into what I call the subconscious womb.
So there's two levels of consciousness. One is the consciousness
that we are daily actively engaging in, and the one
is the subconscious, which runs the programs. And so if
we want to change this program, the subconscious program, because
it's the one that's leading the way. This is the

(37:48):
law part. It says, I'm just going to reflect to
you what you've put into me, So you can do
as many affirmations as you want. But if you don't
believe it and download it into the subconscious womb, that
says this, this is where we're creating from then you
will continue to get exactly what's downloaded into that subconscious womb.
So when we begin to look at okay, what am

(38:10):
I What am I downloading into my subconscious womb? You
have to get past the conscious layer. When I've taught
and did hypnosis in the past, hypnosis teaches us, which
it's just now science, that there are levels of your
brainwave patterns. So we have beta, which is what we

(38:32):
operate in. You can't get past the beta brainweight patterns
to get to the subconscious womb. You have to get
in alpha. Theta delta is really great if you can
meditate to that, that's what Tibetan monks do. But you
have to get into those brainweight patterns in order to
imprint a new idea because it's in the receptive state.

(38:55):
There's one other way that you can download into the
subconscious womb, so that you change the feelings, because the
feelings are all encoded in our body. So the consciousness.
This is the universal law. It says, whatever you believe,
this is what Jesus said, you are as you believe. Well,
people think, well, that's this, it's not it's this. This

(39:15):
is the real truth of who we are. This is
what we are showing up in the world. As so
when I talk about money stories, we uncover what your
true beliefs are around money because everyone would say to
be rich, right, well, then why aren't you. It's not
a want because as soon as you say the word want,
that signals to this universal law a lack mentality because

(39:41):
that says I want something. What does that say I
don't have it? Yeah, we have to begin to say
and declare who we are and then become that because
that is the beingness of this universal law. So, as
you said, there are people that have whatever motive, right,
So it doesn't really matter what the motive is for

(40:03):
us as humans to see. It's whatever they're believing internally,
and then that's going to be replicated in form for
whoever that is. And I think one of the things
I always get a conversation about is, especially with a
book called You're in a Billionaire. You know, there's billionaires
billionaires out there and they're greedy like okay, but they

(40:24):
also have a consciousness that says I'm creating wealth. Now
I don't purport to say I know what's going on
with those people Like Justin Bieber, I watched a documentary
not too long ago that said he's extremely unhappy and
he's made a billion dollars. You know, I don't know.
There's We're very holistic beings. We are a whole package.

(40:46):
We aren't just one aspect of ourselves. We're not just
our wealth or health, or our spirituality or any of
these categories. We are all one whole, and we are
as a people one whole. So how are we impacting
the whole? But consciousness is the universal law. It says
whatever goes in, whatever the belief is, it's coming out

(41:07):
in form. There isn't a way for us to make
that change, just like we can't change gravity or electricity,
and the universe doesn't say you can have it and
you can't. It doesn't, It doesn't judge. This is why
the stories in the Bible are very much for me
metaphors and representations of what we believe that God is.

(41:31):
These are stories that are passed on, you know, orally.
But the fact is is that there's nobody judging us
except for us. Nobody. There is no judge in jury.
It's only us.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yes. So in other words, if you are getting money
or earning money or manifesting money, and your intention is
to screw people over in some way, your integrity.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Level is out.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
But if you feel okay with that, then you still
manifest money absolutely.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I mean, I can't control somebody's motivation. You know. That's
one that I find interesting is we I know that
we're moving in a direction with AI and all these
other things and evolution, we ultimately will be able to
connect through a thought process like they've done movies about it,
where people can read each other's minds. What is it
the something with mel Gibson and women that he walked

(42:31):
by and he could hear what their thoughts. Where We're
going to be there someday. I know that, and I
feel like intuitively, sometimes I can walk down the street
and hear somebody's thoughts. But until we get to that place,
we at this point in time, we don't have the
ability to look inside another human being soul and say

(42:53):
what is your motivation? We just don't have that ability,
we may say as humans, because that's what we do
as humans. We judge things. This is you know, I
put them in a category. We put it in the
category of black or white, or good or bad, or
any version thereof but it just is. That's why I
love that phrase in the Bible. It says it rains
on the just and the unjust alike, like there is

(43:16):
no differentiation. It's their experience. It's my experience that has
been reflected back to me. And because I see somebody
else's experience, they're also part of my reflection. This is
what's so fascinating, is that we're all in this together
and we're all seeing our own reflection. And so when

(43:36):
we don't claim that we're looking in the eyes of God,
we're also declaring that we're not God, which we all are.
We are a unique expression, a divine, unique expression of
the one which is God. It's just a word because
it's consciousness. But that's why I love the idea that
we are all here together as one, and yet we

(44:00):
live in this world of duality, that we've all been
imprinted with this idea that we're different. We're not We
are not different. We're all made out of the same stuff.
We all, you know, the whole thing about We put
our pants on the same way, and we also love
and desire love because this is our nature. We are

(44:21):
community connected beings, and yet it's been distorted and we
can buy into the distortion, which is just another story,
or we can say I know the truth, and if
I know the truth, and then I begin to look
at everybody with the eyes of love as God. What

(44:43):
a shift that would be if everyone was doing that.
But it starts with us. We have to start being
what Gandi said, be the change you want to see.
So everybody's trying to change everything outside of us, when
where does it start? Right here? Right here?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yes, tons of questions are emerging, so let me see
which one should I grab. You mentioned before we got
on this podcast. You're talking about how a lot of
women have a hard time with making investments because they've
kind of handed over their power either to the male

(45:24):
figure in their life or some expert. Talk about that
a little bit. How can we get past that?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
So I grew up in a time where literally women
were not even allowed to make financial decisions alone. They
couldn't have a credit card, they couldn't own in certain
states particularly, they couldn't own a house in their own name.
They had to have everything put through their husband or
a male family member. So once again, it's just it's generational.

(45:55):
It's been imprinted, and so I believe that we are
shifting and more, but there's still, for example, a lot
of women in my age category that are I call
them the goldens right, and they have bought into that story,
that idea, and now what happens is they get to
get to be fifty, sixty, seventy years old and the spouse,

(46:17):
the husband, who had all the financial decision making, they're
left and they don't have a clue. They're lost. So
it really begins with early on. And so I always recommend,
and not to be covert about it, but that a woman,
even if you're in a relationship and all of you
delegate or relegate all of your responsibility to a man,

(46:40):
which is fine, that you have your own established financial
nest egg if you will, for lack of a better word,
because what you want to do is begin to learn
and practice how money works. This is where the disconnect
comes from. I really believe that we as humans, but

(47:02):
particularly as women, we have outsourced so much in our
lives because we don't understand it. So whether it be
a legal proceeding, a health situation, we outsource it. Here's
a lawyer, they know more than I do. The law
is just reading a book I mean literally, I think
I just got the benefit of working for lawyers at

(47:24):
an early age and I went, oh, you guys have
just read the rules, like the rules are all printed somewhere.
But this is the thing. And now with the Internet
and AI, you can figure everything out. But we've delegated
our financial responsibility. Even if you are an independent woman
and you give your responsibility over to say somebody as

(47:45):
a four oh one K manager an investment person, but
you don't know what they're doing. This mystery when we
I love living in the mystery of the universe. I'm
always waiting for the universe to show me what the
next surprise is. And when it comes to life, there's
some areas that we should not just delegate. At least

(48:06):
we should know what we're delegating and say, you know,
explain this to me because I don't understand what you're doing.
So beginning this process of just getting a simple foundation
of how does money work? I have assets, I have liabilities,
I have credit cards, I have bills to pay, and
how do I multiply my money? What is passive income?

(48:27):
What is an investment? Don't jump into something tomorrow, Begin
to uncover and educate yourself on how does money work?
Because money is really a fascinating thing. It again is
something that is almost like a universal principle. It has
certain ways that it functions. And if we understand that,

(48:47):
because this is one I love the Bible from some
of the stories. One of the stories is about the talent.
And so the gentleman that had a farm or whatever
he had in the Bible and he gave to his employees.
He gave each of them three talents. One of them
buried it, one of them held onto it, and one
of them invested in it. And so when the owner

(49:10):
came back, the guy that buried his money, he said,
you know, you don't get anymore. The other one said,
you know, that's probably not the best way, just to
save it, to hold on to it. The one that
invested is the one that got all the praise, because
what it is is taking money. Money loves to work.
They're like dogs. You know, I saw your puppy behind you.
You know, there's certain dogs in the world that are

(49:30):
work dogs, and they love to work. That's what money is.
It loves to work for you. And so if we
learn that aspect and we begin to utilize it, that way,
then money will blossom, money will grow. And it isn't
about driving and struggling and doing all the things for
time for dollars anymore. It's allowing money to do the

(49:51):
work for us. And then we sit around and that's
when I bring in time bending, because then we sit
around and say, how do I want to create more
time for my life so that I can be free?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So what about the the I call it the give
receive cycle. If you give your receive, talk about that
a little bit. We only have a few more minutes,
so tell us a little bit about how you feel
about that.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
That's the law of circulation. That is the law of
wealth and abundance. So it's just a circulation. It's a circle.
It goes around like a hose. And so when we
block one of the either the receiving channel or the
giving channel, then we crimp the hose. So if you've
ever had a hose that you have in your backyard
and you crimp it, like this, water comes out still

(50:38):
right unless you really crimp it, but it's not going
to be a very good flow. So it is a
giving and receiving channel. It's just constantly going around giving
and receiving, giving receiving. So one of the principles is giving,
but also it's not giving to the point of exhaustion
or where you don't receive. So I often use the
example of give with an open palm. So if I'm

(51:00):
giving with an open palm instead of a clothes palm,
I can receive. But when we give, we have to
give with a pure heart. The Bible uses this example.
I love the Bible for examples. It says, don't let
the right hand know what the left hand is doing.
Why because if we give with an agenda right, if

(51:21):
I give and I expect something back, then I'm not
going to get it because that's not circulatory, that's manipulative.
So if I give, and I love to use this
example for people, if they want to start giving, give
some place. I like to do this in the park
or a neighborhood, or leave money someplace where you know
somebody is going to discover it, but it isn't about

(51:43):
being there to see them discover it. I used to
go out and drive around the neighborhood and fill envelopes
with cash and then just hand it to the person
that I could see on the street and drive away.
But purposely not look in the rear view mirror to
see what their reaction was, because that's still an attachment.
So when we give with an open palm, the right
hand does not know what the left hand is doing.

(52:05):
We don't have an agenda. That's true giving, But when
we have an expectation. I don't know, if you've ever
given money to something in an organization, people will do this,
and I don't like the way that organization is run. Like,
once you gave the money away, it's God's work. Now
it's not mine. So it is a circulation give and receive,
give and receive, give and receive, and people block the

(52:27):
receiving channel probably more than the giving channel.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah, it's kind of like when you tithe at a
church and you think, oh, now I'm going to get
you know, tenfold, right, that's what they told me because
it's somewhere. Yeah, yeah, and it does.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
It does happen though, But it's also the intent with
which you give. Like if I'm giving, going, Okay, I'm
going to give this ten dollars and I better see
a hundred dollars show up, then that's not the intention.
The intention is I'm giving from just the overflow of
my love and my life and then let it go.
You don't even think about it anymore. It's as if

(53:06):
it didn't even happen. Y.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, it's the intention. It's all the intention. Yes, So
we only have a couple more minutes. What brilliant, wonderful
suggestion could you give our audience today that helps them
to invest in themselves and have pure intention and all
of that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
What would you say to somebody? I say that the
first thing you want to do is just start with
every day. I think it's so beautiful that abundance is
time as well, and we all get the same twenty
four hours. We all get it. Nobody doesn't get twenty
four hours, And so how are you investing in that
twenty four hours? Begin your day with? Is this investing

(53:52):
for me? Or is this taking out of my soul?
And that begins with how you wake up? What is
my intention for the day? How am I being grateful
as soon as my eyes open? How am am I
grabbing my phone? Is that the first thing I do?
Am I creating energy? That is an investment type? Am
I meditating? Am I praying? Am I thinking positive thoughts?

(54:14):
Am I setting the intention for the day, or am
I picking up my phone and doom scrolling like, oh
my god, the world is falling apart? Right? How are
you setting your intention for the day? That really is
the very first thing that I recommend for everybody as
we set our day and our life as soon as
our eyes open, and then when you go to sleep,

(54:34):
set that intention as well. What am I going to
create while I'm in this beautiful sleep state.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
That's great, So tell people how to reach us. Show
us your book.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Okay, the Rooted in Wealth book is this and it
is on Amazon as well. But I think the best
way to get any kind of information for me is
go to my website Thedebbiedobbins dot com and you can
get the Inner Billionaire for free and the Rooted in Wealth.
Once you sign up for the Inner Billionaire then it
will be sent to you as well. So it's just

(55:07):
an opportunity to get all of this for free.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Thank you so much, Jebbie. Keep up the important, beautiful
work and thank you all for watching, and I'll probably
have you back on again because you've got a lot
to say. Thank you you all. Next weeak

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