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November 14, 2025 56 mins
Air Date - 12 November 2025

Dr. Alison J. Kay is an internationally recognized expert in holistic healing and energy medicine, with over two decades of experience. Her unique approach integrates ancient wisdom from Asia with cutting-edge Western techniques. She is an International Bestselling Author, a Master Mind-Body Energy Medicine practitioner, and a Doctor of Philosophy in Holistic Life Coaching. Her expertise encompasses various modalities, including chakra balancing, meditation, yoga, chi gong, and vibrational medicine, allowing her to address clients’ needs on multiple levels – mind, body, and spirit. This comprehensive approach enables her to create personalized healing plans that promote lasting well-being. Through her work, Dr. Kay has helped thousands worldwide tap into their highest potential, experience profound healing, and live more vibrant, fulfilling lives. Dr. Kay’s approach stands out for its unique blend of ancient wisdom, modern science, and a compassionate, empowering style. Her award-winning books, including “What If There’s Nothing Wrong?” and “Vibrational UPgrade,” demonstrate her ability to translate complex concepts into accessible and engaging content for a global audience. She is the founder of the Vibrational UPgrade™ System.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the

(00:31):
origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place

(00:52):
based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken to
align with and embody your true self and live a
life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Royce Morales.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Welcome everyone. I am so excited today because my
guest is just fascinating. I'm sure you will agree. Let
me just tell you a little bit about her. Doctor
Allison Jay Kay is an internationally recognized expert in holistic

(01:32):
healing and energy medicine with over two decades of experience.
Her unique approach, which I think is just awesome, integrates,
integrates ancient wisdom with cutting edge Western techniques, and she's
going to explain some of that stuff. And ah, she's

(01:53):
also an author, and she just uses all kinds of
modalities such as let's see on my list here, she
uses yoga, meditation, she gong vibrational medicine, and what that
does for clients is it's a real good balance between
mind and body and spirit. I just think that's wonderful.

(02:16):
She's helped thousands, thousands of people tap into their highest potential,
experience profound healing and live more vibrant, fulfilling lives, something
that we all want to do.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
She's an international best selling author, and she is a
doctor of philosophy and holistic life coaching. And she's written
two books. I don't know if she's written more than that,
but I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Oh, four books.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I only have two on my list.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Her books are what If There's Nothing Wrong, which sounds
very intriguing and vibrational up with two capitalized words. They're
upgrade where she translates complex concepts into accessible and engaging
content and then from that, she's the founder of Vibrational Upgrade.

(03:12):
So welcome, doctor Allison. I'm so thrilled that you're here.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Thank you, Royce.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm really excited to see what we're going to explore
in this hour because there's a lot of overlap between
what we do, including I had a radio show myself
for two and a half years called Create Your Best
Life Ever, and exploring much of what I heard in
your intro and what I read about you before in
this show in your background. So it's exciting to be

(03:38):
with a compadre we do. We have a feminine way
of saying, compadre.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Pondreat, Let's create it.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
This is the case a lot of the time, fellow
compound dreat let go.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So tell us a little bit about how you got
started in all of this. Your mentioning that you used
to be a teacher, So how did that How did
you transfer from teaching to doing this?

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, this is always my side gig.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
While I was in the classroom as a teacher doing
energy medicine sessions and teaching meditation and yoga, I didn't
really get started. It was kind of like innate in
me and I just had to learn how to not
engage in any inner debate and just follow the guidance
of how to live my life, what choices to make

(04:27):
to allow this to flourish and blossom.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Even more so, I was like chomping.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Through the woods as a girl with my older brother
and just feeling totally connected to a sense of like
there's all these little elementals and sprites and fairies in
the water, and noticing like is my brother's in front
of me, like collapsing trees, jumping on the dead tree
limbs and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
You know how boys are.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
The testos on our I was like just feeling totally
at one with everything and felt like there was communication.
Then in my teen years, I started to write in
a diary, but it wasn't like this is what I
did today. It was I learned later once I became
a meditator, starting in my early twenties, I was connected
with my higher self. So then I fast forward a

(05:11):
bunch of years and I ended up with learning my
first modality of energy medicine. As I then engaged in
that as a side gig, like I said, with the
classroom teaching, and eventually some Saturday morning I was looking
at my checkbook pre digital banking days and wasn't thrilled.

(05:32):
I had a master's degree at that time, and my
first degree was in My first career was in politics.
It was in helping the planet and helping get people
elected to the I was living in California time in
San Francisco, helping get elected to state legislator legislature as
well as federal people not only who would sign yes

(05:53):
on environmentally protective legislation, but write it. And so I
helped get the first Latina woman elected to the California
State Assembly and she wrote legislation to say the less
bit of green space in La Basin, which.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
I was really psyched about.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So then I trumped overseas after the election season in
ninety three for about six months, backpacking and living on
a Greek island for a month, which was really some
other stuff. And came back up my masters and was
setting myself up to go further into that first career.
And after six months of looking for jobs, whether inside

(06:27):
the system, to change from within the system or outside,
nothing was happening, No doors were opening, and I asked
my guidance, what are you trying to show me? So
I then went onto my bachelor's relying on that in
English literature and creative writing. It went into the classroom teaching,
and then did the energy medicine side gig because what
I heard was, if Ellison, you want this kind of change,
you need to go one consciousness at a time, and

(06:48):
this is in ninety seven. So then I went, so
that Saturday morning I was referring to, just to give
you a little bit more context. Fasting forward two and
a half years teaching in local public school, where I
also had a after school program to help. This is
when ADHD started to get diagnosed, and so a colleague
of mine and myself created a club after school where

(07:10):
I taught them Chi gong and I taught them meditation
and relaxation stuff, and he did too. I wasn't happy
on this Saturday morning with my bank books results, and
I felt like I knew a better sense of abundance
and it shouldn't be this hard, and I knew a
better sense of adventure, and I was not finding myself
having adventure in my life. And so I also that

(07:33):
we could had like the third session in a series
of ten and an energy medsine session with a client.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
This is like my second client.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Or third maybe really knew at it, and we were
both so stoked about her results that we were getting
and how she was feeling. So I looked up, I
had my hands over her womb. I remember this, I'll
never forget it. And I looked up this selling like,
oh my god, how can I get even warrobus results
from my clients? Like I literally remember the sentence. So
between that and then that next Saturday morning, looking at

(08:01):
my lack of abundance and lack of adventure, and also
I wasn't willing to accept the projection and expectation I
felt from my society that she should be pleased with
having this career for the next three decades and then
retire at this level of life, living this way, getting married,

(08:24):
having kids. So I felt like was very caging. And
so I looked up basically at the ceiling again and
was like, Okay, what else is possible here? Like my
version of asking that at the time. So a colleague
within like just I think it was like two weeks
turned me onto the international school system.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
So I learned what I had to do.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I flew to where I had to fly to it,
got the interviews, got a bunch of job offers around
the world and ended up choosing Taiwan because it was
where the traditional Chinese medicine and holistic understanding and Daoist
philosophy was able to still be practiced. So I wanted
to go to the source of understanding subtle energy so
I could have even more robust results from my clients,

(09:06):
and I ended up after ten years, I ended up
increasing my net cash flow by sixty percent, paid off
any of the student loans I have for my masters.
Came back having learned a ton because I went to
Buddhist monasteries. From my Saturday jogs behind the monastery, I
talked to the monks on the weekends. I go out
to monasteries during the week I get all these traditional treatments,

(09:28):
and so I would ask all these questions and put
all this stuff together. I go to Thailand during my
breaks in Bali and just was really learning and asking
all these questions and piecing it together myself.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
There was no master whose.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Feet I sat at learning it and just downloading it
to me. Yeah, so I pieced together what I knew.
But before I came back here, I got my formal
yoga teacher certification in India and then dropped the classroom
teaching career and took this full time and create a
vibrational grade system.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I now.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Wow. So probably most everybody that's watching this show today
knows about energy work, energy healing. But for those people
that maybe you're not real clear about it, how would
you you know? Because you keep referring to it as
subtle energy? Tell us what you mean by that? What
is that really about?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
So as quantum physics has validated the ancient wisdom and
understandings about a debt within the past like fifteen years.
For those who rely on science, subtle energy is what

(10:48):
is behind everything we see as in physical matter. So
what creates energy is nothing, it's there. And so what
we do with our focus of our conscious mind, which
if you think about the daily choices you make that.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Create your life.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Another science based piece of data is we make our
daily choices with only fifteen percent of our conscious mind.
In eighty five percent of our daily choices that set
up and create our lives are from the subconscious and unconscious.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
I disagree.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
After tens of thousands of clients around the world during
this for almost I think it's now over three decades.
I could update that bio. Apparently, I don't know where
you got that one with only two books out of
the four too, but apparently I think it's more like
five percent. People are not making conscious choices, and it's
not like we set out to make unconscious choices.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
It's just the gearing.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
My very first major in college, before the English lit
was settled upon with psychology, and after three semesters of
psych Western psych I was like, you're not showing me
how to be the happiest, most thriving version of myself.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I no to this what you're teaching me.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
And so then from there on in at age at
that point nineteen, I've been looking at the holistic model.
So the holistic model understands that we're a mind, body,
spirit system, and so there's different So I approached consciousness
from both the Western understanding because later I taught psychology
and created another course, Global psychology I can talk about later,

(12:31):
and also from the understanding of the layers of our
consciousness from the Buddhist meditative perspective and from the Yogic wisdom.
Yoga has eight limbs to it, only one of them
is about the body postures.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
That so many of you are familiar with.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Five of those eight traditional limbs of yoga are about
working with your consciousness. So when you do a yoga pose,
all of them are designed around the chakras to help
them open. So it is a science. It's been part
of my mission when I returned from the ten years
in Asia, studying and furthering my understanding of all of this,

(13:11):
and my.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Power with all of this is that this is a science.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
And if in the West we only understood that was
a science, the subtle energy system, how it all works together,
is actually a science, we would have so much more
thriving and so much less suffering. So there's a lot
that go So what shows up as the physical plan,
which quantum physics is now validated, is based on our
expectations that are projected out. And we have the expectations

(13:38):
we do about how money behaves with us, how we
gain success, how people treat us, how we are loved,
how we are not loved, how all of it is
based on thoughts we hear, which is only like five percent,
but that's called the ego mind and from Buddhist meditation,
but more so the thoughts we don't hear, so that's
where I do all of my work. I go. I

(14:01):
also do after I've done enough clearing on a person
of the unconscious and subconscious blocks, which then affects their chakras.
Because every chakra is a.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Do you want me to go on more? Roye?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Sure, go ahead, Okay, this.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Is a lot of teaching.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Every chakra is an intersection of the mind, the body,
in the spirit, and so that means I can access
all levels of your consciousness. I can access the physical
part of the body and the organs in that area,
in the musculature, in the cellular matrix. That also means
I can access your spirit. That means I can access

(14:43):
your karma. I can access your past lives. Don't worry
if you don't believe in the past lives. It's all good,
no worries. What I'm getting at though, is we have
seven in the traditional chakra system of them throughout our body.
So the throat chakra is responsible, but it's linked to
the thyroid. I have been calling the throat shakra the
second power center for these new times because my radio

(15:04):
show I had for two and a half years, I
was about the nature of the twenty twelve December twenty first,
twenty twelve shift, and I was actually in chi Chen.
It's a of the Mayan ruins on that day. I
could talk about it later if you want, but we're
in very different times now. We are in what's considered
humanity's greatest evolutionary leap, and two of my four books

(15:24):
are written about this. In another way of referring to
twenty twelve to twenty thirty two, the twenty year window
is humanity spiritual awakening, which is why we're seeing so
many more meditation apps, which is why we're seeing so
many more yoga studios, which is why we're seeing cleaner,
more organic food offered in the United States, and more
of an emphasis on that, which is why we're seeing

(15:45):
more natural products on Amazon, where people are going after
their own health and wellness rather than re referring to
the authority figure traditionally of the doctor. So the accessing
of your consciousness, I can clear out the unconsciousness, subconscious traumas,
conditioning imprints from your ancestry and lineage, collective unconsciousness, all

(16:12):
sorts of stuff that I'm not going to go ahead
and name that gets you.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Having more fresh vital life.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Force, energy or chi or key for those of you
who know reiki or kas I say in Egypt, flushed
from the back of your house consciousness, which is what
I've come to call it, because the sub and the
unkind of float back there and our conscious mind prefrontal
lobe in the front of our forehead. So I can
clear out this lockdown of consciousness or vital life force

(16:41):
energy that a block from your lineage, like one of
my masterminders last night was clearly displaying her family raised
her to believe that I have to chase money, and
I have to constantly pound the pavement like it's a
race with money, and I'm constantly being beaten from behind
to find the money, to get the money, to have

(17:03):
the money to that more than enough. There is not
a sense in her lineage of a relaxation around money.
So I've been working on clearing the entanglement of various
beliefs around that, including that being not only what she
was nurtured with, conditioned with, but also what she was
natured with what came down in her DNA.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
So by clearing that.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
What I call the back of the house consciousness, she
now has more freedom vital life force energy or consciousness
at her prefrontal lobe to make new choices. So in
meditation and yoga we're taught that. In Western psych we're
taught that there's five our five physical senses right, have
thresholds on them because if we were to pick up

(17:47):
actually all of the metaphysical multi dimensional data behind the
physical we go nuts.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
We couldn't clock it all.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
So we have these caps on our five physical senses
and what they can picked up. And part of what
happens as you expand your consciousness from meditation, for example,
and it's understood from over two thousand, five hundred years
of experience and observation, is then these thresholds get opened
a bit more because you're conscious, you can handle it.

(18:18):
You can expand as your consciousness expands, as you are
able to handle more metaphysical multi dimensional data and it
won't fry your system and you'll know what to do
with it. These thresholds lift a little bit, so your
consciousness is expanding. So I'm working with that aspect as
I clear out the back of the house consciousness, and

(18:38):
then I come in and help with more clearings and
activations and also mindful applied mind. What I've come to
call applied mindfulness coaching so that they can see and
perceive new choices. So she gave me an example of
as she was walking out of Whole Foods, having spent
some money that she didn't expect to spend. She was like, yeah,
but look at this as bringing me joy. Money loves joy.

(19:01):
Money is just neutral. It's just a neutral energy. It
just sits there and gets all these projections onto it,
just like you're looking at how I look. If those
of you who are watching on video and you're looking
at how voice looks, and you have these conclusions, it's
natural to judge. It's part of how we chop up
physical metaphysical reality actually to make sense of it. It's
to help us navigate the physical plane and live. So

(19:23):
you're making conclusions about my hair, my glasses, my tone
of voice, my jewelry, the stuff behind me. You're having
all of these conclusions that you're not even necessarily hearing
all of them. Meanwhile, my energy.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Is working on you.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
So I hope that's a really good start.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Worrice.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Wow, So you talk about you clear their energy. What
is the technique that you use? Is it tell us
about that?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, it's a proprietary gig.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
So when people come into my signature program, Magic Manifestation
and Money Flow, I'm kind of eyeing them to see
if their system and if their life, if they want
to become trained in the Vibrational Upgrade system, and then
we chat and see if that's actually organically naturally the case,

(20:20):
and then they get invited into the Mastermind, which is
exclusively where I teach.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
What I do.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
So I'm not going to talk about that in a
direct answer, but using everything I just talked about in
targeting the key areas where you can have the most effect,
and my Vibrational Upgrade practitioners have done the work on
themselves is through Magic Manifestation and money Flow, my signature program.

(20:46):
They've gotten cleared by me and through a bunch of
different curriculum in live interactions with me. So they're a
higher vibration to begin with, and that's one of the
requisites of Vibrational Upgrade. Do you know, like, even as
you uplift your heart, it used to be ten thousand
others through the collective matrix, we were all interconnected. This

(21:12):
might be too much for some people. Now it's one
hundred thousand people. If you open your heart and live
more from your heart and less from your thoughts because
of the backdrop we're living in vibrationally. Like the crown
chakra has a thousand petals to it, You guys might
know the symbols of the chakras around those things. The symbol,
the Sanskrit symbol for that chakra are lotus pedals, and

(21:37):
the crown is considered of the traditional seven, the most
has the most petals and each pedal connects to a star.
So there was so much more possible for anyone who
thinks that life is boring.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
There was so much more to get.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
To behind the physical because and then understanding that there
is so much more support around us. I've been tracking
this all the way through since twenty eleven, and it's
been beautiful in its statement about how this universe is
at its core unconditionally loving the help we've been given

(22:17):
from the cosmos with the various alignments like we have had,
and we're living in one now different cosmic alignments of
the planets.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I'm not a professional astrology.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I defer because it's a science too to professional astrologers
to help understand what I'm perceiving energetically with like factual data,
so to speak. There's been so many different planetary alignments
or astrological alignments that haven't happened since like when the
French Revolution and the American Revolution happened, like big things,

(22:50):
big events in history. We're living in incredible times right now.
So yeah, I'm going to stop there because because we're
all meant to be clearing now. And so you asked
me about clearing, and what I'm getting at is we're
all meant to be elevating upgraating vibrationally and living more

(23:12):
from our understanding of our consciousness and the effects we
have in each of us collectively and individually creating our reality,
and so as I yeah, so creating a better reality
is the bottom line. We're moving into what some call
the new Golden Era after twenty thirty two.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
So what I have done is like.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I've had so many people come to me and work
with me in the Magic Manifestation and Money Flow Signature
program from working with loa law of attraction and telling me,
doctor Allison, I have never been able to get this
to work for me.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
You are finally the one who's.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Got me to not only understand the law of attraction,
but actually have them the energy and the consciousness with
which to have it.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Work for them.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
So I've like kind of reverse engineered because I was
able to play in Taiwan, I didn't read Chinese. I
spoke it enough, but I didn't read it. So I
was unplugged from like all of the noise around me,
and so I hanging out with my expat friends with
South Africa and Canada in England, I was like playing
with how our thoughts create our reality and really testing it.

(24:19):
So because I was also teaching The Secret in my
English literature course, when I got to the Romanticists unit,
I was able to bring in the movie The Secret,
so I would I remember like I got steered out
a lot because of my coloring, blond hair, blue eyes,
and so I remember like, yeah, okay, I'm gonna play

(24:39):
with this.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
I'm gonna treat myself.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I'm going to conclude that this is like being treated
like a rock star.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
And I'm gonna go through my day and.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Anytime anybody invasively steers into my eyes and doesn't see
the human but just as looking out my eyes in
this weird, intense way, I'm going to treat it as
if I'm a rock star. I had a rock and
day that day. Next day I was like, hey, I'm
going to let the annoyance permeate. I'm going to go
from the annoying conclusion that I'm going to project onto

(25:09):
this act of others staring at me.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
And it was a crap day.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
So I mean, that's a very simple example. But why
quantum physics was able to say, oh my god, we
are affecting reality is when it did a clinical study
on a cat and their expectations of what the cat

(25:35):
was going to do and what they thought was a
controlled clinical study, they realized affected what the cat did,
so they played with that more Schrodinga's cat, so's I
wrote about this in my first book.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
So that was like the breakthrough.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
And then Einstein was around for that and he was like,
oh my god, I can't handle this, and he kept
going down his gut his theory of everything. Because it
took quantum phys at least seventy years the orthodox halls
of science to stop the reverberation of that rocking realization
that we cannot observe in a detached way anything and

(26:14):
say that that is a controlled study, because we are
affecting it just by our expectations of what's going to happen,
never mind how they set it all up right right,
So we are now being asked the core of it.
So where I clear, not how, but where I clear

(26:34):
in particular is anywhere you feel like a victim to
anything in your life, including and most importantly your self.
Talk So it doesn't matter, and please bear with me.
All it doesn't matter your race, it doesn't matter your gender,
it doesn't matter your socioeconomic status you were born into.
And I get it. I was involved in politics. I
get that those are legit things. You can point to

(26:56):
the inequities as a woman who who's had to work
harder to prove herself and still isn't getting equal pay
compared to the men in my position. I mean, how
many female.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Gurus have you ever heard of?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
By the way, a few, not only like a few,
right so? Or female spiritual teachers compared to the male
spiritual teachers. So what I'm getting at is anywhere you
feel like a victim to something outside of you. These
times we're in it, or meant to wind that back
to so that you see your power to clear that

(27:32):
and have it transformed into a belief that actually works
for you, because if we're creating reality anyway, why not
create the best reality. And that means where you feel
like a victim to money, not enough money, the economy,
the interest rates, the food prices, the gas prices. Absolutely, yes, absolutely.
I lead retreats over to the UK twice a year

(27:52):
for six and a half weeks at a time. I
just came back from one and that included my beta
test to Egypt, and I just came back with that Hathor.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Thing behind me.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
And so there's a different mentality towards money in England
than there is in the United States. And it's and
I've done live talks there, doing clearings and activations quite
a few times in Glastonbury, England, and I've been able
to and I have had a lot of English clients.
I've been able to really see and perceive the differences
in like it's more of a lockdown over there, where

(28:24):
it's more culturally accepted that there's going to be problems
with money, whereas here it's and I'm sure many of
you already are aware of this. Here, it's more like
we can go and do and be anything and keep
rising even though there's a whole sector of our society
that complains in about not having enough money, and and
and so the I want you to also consider, like

(28:46):
when you're at a party, how many people around you
are complaining about the price of stuff versus how many
people are talking about Wow, I just got to I
just uh had a client pay an invoice that I
didn't expect to be paid ever again and it's the
money showed up, or wow I just got a special deal?

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Like how many?

Speaker 3 (29:03):
So the group think is something. So you want to
be careful about the group think. Okay, so I got
to take a break. I feel like there's tons of questions.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
You could ask me very.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Speaking of a break, we do need to take a
little bit of a break, but I just want I
do have two burning questions. I'm going to save them
for after the break.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Okay, hold that thought.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
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Welcome back. I think that doctor Allison is getting a
couple of her books to share and show everybody. This
is fascinating to me. I just think it's so exciting.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
To hear that.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
The world is shifting.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
There she is. The world is shifting, and.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
People are finally accepting that energy exists and that we
are energetic beings and all the stuff that you were
just talking about is so exciting.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
So my burning questions, and welcome back everybody. And by
the way, I always forget to mention if you are
watching this live, you can send us questions and comments.
So if you have a burning question, feel free to
send it to us and we will attempt to answer it.
And okay, here's mine. You were talking about the law
of attraction. Yep, and years ago, decades ago. I started

(33:01):
trying it for myself and once in a while it
would work once, and most of the time it wouldn't.
And some of the inner work that I do and
that I teach about has shifted that so that you
get rid of the blocks and the beliefs and the
fears and the programming and all of that stuff. So

(33:22):
you mentioned that you help people get to the point
where they're able to manifest. Tell us a little bit
about that.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh my gosh, it's so exciting. So I've been mentioning
the different tiers.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, Chris is telling you how to make sure your book,
your book is not backwards when you hold it up. Okay,
So I should have done this in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Sorry, No, it's okay. So hold on, what does it
look like when it works? So I've been mentioning the
different tiers of working with me because the I even
mentioned the first level, the magic Manifestation and Money Flow program.
It's called what it is because it's setting people up

(34:12):
to start to be able to see their power in
its impression upon the metaphysical. So they start to see
more synchronicities, they start to see more new possibilities, they
start to be opened.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
To them and perceive them.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
So the whole first six weeks of that program, I'm
opening up their systems to have more opening and receptivity
to the new and to new possibilities coming in.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So that's the first step. Receptivity.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Opening up your receiving capacities is an ongoing increase, Like
I'm even playing with that myself still in the aspect
of allow. So the interaction of when somebody gets guidance
to take action intu audition, their intuition is telling them
to take a nudge is another way of referring to
it for those of you who at the different levels

(35:12):
across the spectrum of intuitive awareness.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
And that's one step.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
You get the nudge, and then another step is you
actually acknowledge it as intuition. And the next step then
is the choice to follow it or ignore it.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah, And so.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Helping them also start to come out of the dominance
of the ego mind, of the daily thoughts that have
been conditioned in and that our habitual, the storylines, et cetera.
That's another main step. So they get lighter consistently across
the board. That's like the number one result in effect

(35:55):
is they get lighter, they feel lighter, and with that lightness,
you also then and increasingly it's relevant to a specific chakra,
receptivity can start to open your lighter, and then magnetism
can even increase, so then the power increases with which
to call. There's tools I help them with that then

(36:17):
call out to the universe with the proper energetics. I
don't mean you have to be perfect When I say proper,
it's some of the things I just described, because there
are proper energetics that are more powerfully calling out to
the universe in a way that the universe will hear
and bring in a match, as opposed to the miscreation
of you creating in that same old loop with that

(36:39):
limiting pattern, that same old thing showing up, whether it's
with money or love, relationships or et cetera, that triggers
you because your stuff talks about triggering. So I mean
I'm talking way beyond clearing what triggers you and really
focusing on empowering you to become more of the co
creating we each actually are, but recognizing the steps and

(37:01):
setting up your consciousness and your energetics to effectively call
out to the universe and then allow yourself to receive
instead of reject, the new higher level of living. Because
loads of people will ask, you know, I'm working with you,
doctor Elson because I want more money to commit. But
they have a slew of beliefs like money's hard to

(37:22):
come by, there's only so much money, or if I
have more money than others and I'm hurting others, or
I've always been rejected, I've been abandoned, so I don't
expect money to help me. So they like it, wants
to come in, and they'll reject it.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Right, I'll never forget. It was amazing to me.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I had this woman who was working with me, and
she was asking for a new situation with work where
it was lighter and easier, and I was helping her
with that, and she gets this job offered that's like
cutting out her commute. It's a pay raise, it's cutting
out of commune because it's close to her house. It's
a pay raise, and she would be working with people

(38:02):
who felt lighter than the previous office.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
And she actually asked me should I take this not?

Speaker 3 (38:07):
And I was like, oh my god, this is what
you've been asking for, this is what we've been working George,
what do you mean right? So it's so amazing to
watch people up level from one level of life that
they're so habituated to and allow themselves to have it
all be easier and more blessed and more fun and lighters.
So look at how juice I get. My God, I'm

(38:28):
so passionate about this. That's that's where my passion is though,
is to is to help people.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah, I can clear my sleep and powerfully so, but
my juice is about helping people open up to their
power and use it because we have a vibrational backdrop
and loads of support to help us shift into this
new understanding.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
And in a creation of our reality to be a
new golden era. And I know all of the division
in our politics looks like how can we be going
into to a golden era? Well, in homeopathics and in watching,
when I'm purging somebody's system, when they're working with me,
of the old density, I'm going to choose density for

(39:13):
a collection of the old storylines, conditioning, karma, past life stuff, traumas,
et cetera. When they get out of that density, when
it dissipates and dissolves, and there's so much lighter, it's
a phenomenal thing to It's like people's sense that they

(39:35):
can get to more they know there's more available to them,
but they don't know how to access it. And watching
people actually understand because they stay with it long enough,
they do the work as it's shown to them to do,
and they see it does actually work. It's like such

(39:57):
a joy because then that means it's one less person,
you know, trying to lay and giving up and dismissing
this energy stuff, you know, because that's old school, that's
the old paradigm dismissed.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
And I don't even call it energy work.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Another part of my mission is to have it called
energy medicine instead of energy work and professionalize the field.
My main This is my first book and I wrote it. It
started as my dissertation for my PhD. I'm not I
don't have the space to read Chris's and take that in.
I'm sorry. The message about like how to not have
this show up in reverse.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
This is called what I started as my PhD dissertation,
And yeah, it became.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Where I was led to was phenomenal about like we're
in the West, we got shut down to our magic
and why I had to go to the East and then.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Come back to understand it.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
And I ended up it was written about I didn't
expect to go there. So anyway, what's your other burning question?
I hope that answers I did it.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yes, it did, But another question just came to me.
When I work with people, yep. I always find that
when you get to the core, when you get to
the bottom issue with people that is stopping them in
life and not allowing them to manifest and not allowing
them to love, it always goes down to deservingness issues.

(41:24):
There's always something back there where they decided that, oh
I don't deserve I'll be dangerous if I have too
much money, or I will hurt that person if I
allow them to love me. So there's something about that.
Do you address that in your emergy work?

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
But I don't I'm going to beg to differ here
because I feel like in the spiritual community there is
an over emphasis on self love and self esteem and
deserving this I don't from what I've seen, I don't see.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
It as that issue.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
So all the time, right like that, that's that's the
corese So if I'm working with a woman and helping
her raise her standards for herself with a lot basically
DoD Chrawson I just published a book and I don't
want to be seen on social media and.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I need to grow my business, but I don't want
to be seen.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
So there's there's issues with that that are some of
it is this lifetime's growing up, you know, being taught
to be seen and not heard as the girl maybe,
which is what I've seen many times past life issues
when wherein they have used their voice and they've spoken
truth to power, they've been shut down in some punishing

(42:44):
way or ostracized. So there's that echoing in their unconscious
that needs to be cleared. So I don't feel at
all like it. So when somebody says like I don't
have this self esteem to handle all these people looking
at me if I let myself be seen out on

(43:06):
social media more, I don't. I know that it takes
courage to allow yourself to have judgments projected at you.
So I will go to enhancing the person's courage, and
in the sweep I do, with the clearing that I do,
the light will dissolve that if it's about deserving this,

(43:32):
I feel like I am picking up after a lot
of conditioning in the self help movement.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
From the self help movement and.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
From the healing world where people are made to feel
like it's something to do about not being good enough,
and it's not. And I feel like I'm dealing with
a lot more females coming in with that than males
coming in with that. So I mean that is therefore
reason I am a fierce mama bear on behalf of

(44:04):
the divine feminine rising. That's my mastermind is basically a
mystery school for the divine feminine.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
So that's it's more about power.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
And eradicating where women have been taught to turn that down.
And it's not always about deserving this, even though collectively
we've been taught no, you don't. You do deserve to
take care of the house and do these invisible things
and not get credit for and we might let you
become a nurse or a teacher, right because those are

(44:40):
the first two professions women came out of the house with. Yeah,
So there's the part of the revolution that's happening now.
And this is way beyond feminism. So all of us
have the divine masculine and divine feminine. In us, masculine
is the young. It's of the yin young, the white
black circle from ancient Daoist philosophy, the whites, what can
be seen in the light. That's the young, the man mask.
The black is the end. The feminine, So the mystery

(45:04):
some Native American tribes called God not just great spirit,
but great mystery. The mystery is in and the feminine. The
feminine is when we hear our intuition and we're seeding
a creative project and we're not bringing out to the
light of day yet, we haven't taken any action yet.
If you look at our conditioning in America in particular,
we are totally focused on the yah, the masculine of

(45:26):
taking action. Do do do, be productive, instead of focusing
on the being the inside and how you're then approaching
life and what you're projecting out for your expectations and
then what comes back to you. So I'm not talking
about feminists. I'm talking about becoming more balanced in our
overall collective experience of being in bodies on planet Earth.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yes, absolutely, So speaking of society, what are you I
talk about this a lot that everything that's going on
right now politically in the America, the chaotic stuff that's happening,
you know, the last week was evidence of a lot,

(46:11):
a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
How do you.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
My sense of it is that it's awakening us, that
we've got to get to the deepest, darkest hidden parts
of ourselves which is being reflected to us by what's
going on, so that we can evolve and get past
that and really own the pure power that we have within.
What is your take on all that? And I just
found out we only have ten more minutes. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
So as I was saying before it, and I don't
think I completed that thought. Homeopathy when I'm working with
a client a lot of the times I can see
and this is based on homeopathics, the body purging and
getting like so a fever has to break before it breaks,
it has to peak, yes, ZiT has to bring all

(47:02):
of its toxins to the surface before you can effectively
pop it without getting like a mark.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Right, So that is these are.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Two examples of getting more intense before it dissolves. So
in my first book I'm talking about and even in
my second one and in my third one.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Okay, so here's the second one.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
By the way, this is vibrational upgrade, a conspiracy for
your bliss because and then my publisher made me add
this an easy humanity's evolutionary transition because he knows, he
knows what I do. So the third book, this is
also an audible Reasonable Dragons, and this says how to

(47:44):
activate the field of possibilities were logical magic is a
new normal logical magic because there is a logic to
the divine wisdom. It doesn't just become irrational if you're
not grounded in reason. There's a whole nother order to
divine order the logic. This is my most recent one,
the fourth one, the Dragon Master Creatrix Conversations with the

(48:06):
female spiritual Teacher for these New Times, so beautiful, thank you.
I go into that homeopathic in the way in the
first book, very specific to the human system. In this one,
I talk more about society the Reasonable Dragons one. So
there's a lot of division we're seeing, like I referred

(48:27):
to before, and it's before the unity pops through. If
you look at the masses, there is more unity. You
don't look if you look at the politicians, there's more
greed for power because that's popping, yeah, or it shifts.
So we're seeing we're seeing like the bad, the intensity,

(48:47):
the purging of the old, the shadow like you talked
about before, but if.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
You look to the masses, and if you.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Q your perception to look for the changing, the evolving,
rather than for how bad it is.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
Like take that some part.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Why on my first book's cover there's a woman on
a mountain, I now talk about instead of going to
the mountaintop to take the mountaintop view, I now talk
about take the satellite view.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Zoom out you can. Yeah, did you have another question?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, I read somewhere in some bio that somebody sent me.
I don't know who it was that sent them to me,
but apparently it's not updated. But you mentioned something about
a couple things. There are subtle common signs that someone

(49:45):
is not living in an alignment with their higher consciousness.
What would some subtle signs be.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
They get triggered a lot, Their libido is low, separate
from hormonal stuff, their libido is low, their energy levels,
their vitality is low, because that's connected to the libido.

(50:19):
This is in great part where we have seen such
a focus on mental health, because we're meant to be
working with our consciousness, we're meant to be rising. So
this is another example of it getting worse, like a fever,
peeking before it breaks so the people who aren't already
aware of working with their consciousness, the ego mind has

(50:41):
gotten louder so that it's asking us, like if you
look at COVID. I wasn't surprised when COVID happened because
what I was understanding was it was a whole another
slew of people that needed to awaken that hadn't yet
in humanity's awakening times. So yeah, so mental health is
just a symptom of Okay, work with your consciousness. One

(51:03):
of the I love this basic Buddhist tenant. Their basic
tenant is every human mind is neurotic. Now here are
the tools with which to work with your own particular
flavor of neuroses.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
That's great, So yeah, give us some tools. Give us
a couple of tools for people watching this today, you
would recommend.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
So know that you're not your thoughts, Know that that's
only a part of you. That's step one. So step
two is do what you can in any moment to
focus on what's enduring. A tree, the soil, the sky,

(51:46):
the stars, the sun, the rain. I'm not just classifying
it as nature. What I'm doing is helping reprogram your
consciousness that's used to maybe looking for what if that's wrong,
what if that's wrong, what if that's a problem being
the problem solver, the fixer, the warrior, because that's the nature.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Of the ego mine.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
My first signature talk is called the nature of the mind.
Anybody's mind. Not only is that, everybody's mind is neuro
season Here is the particular, here's the tools to work
with your own particular flavor of neuroseas.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
It's the basic Buddhist tenant.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
But there are aspects to the nature of the mind.
The mind is trying to protect us. The ego mind
has been given to us to help us navigate the
physical plane, and so as you step into the new
and the unknown, like we are doing collectively issue humans
on planet Earth, the ego mind goes into protection like

(52:44):
lions and tigers and beers, oh my, in the new
and in the unknown to keep us safe. It is
an automatic trigger. You can look at our adrenal cortex
and our adrenal system the fight or flight as more
symptoms of what I'm talking talking about. Our systems are
naturally wired to keep us protected and safe.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
How loving is that?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
But because the energies that we're living in are so new,
and there is considered humanity's greatest evolutionary leap. The times
that we are in now twenty twelve to twenty thirty two,
there's a lot of freak out if people don't understand
that framing. So that's number two tool. Understand that framing.
Number three is take responsibility for your well being, as

(53:29):
all of you are because you're listening to this. But
what I mean by that is okay, so I actually
am creating my reality.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Implied in that is I have power.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
So what if I were to like stop focusing on
like that problem and that issue and how this is
unfair and how that's a problem and that sucks, and
I would to start like using my focus to create
what I want to create.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
The more that you can reason, and this is where
I work.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
This is all the clearings and activations I do make
that easier. But I'm reasoning with your logical mind right now,
So you can apply that logic to yourself.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
You could stop.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
You you could have like one of those rubber bands
some people do for active mindfulness, and you could question
your thoughts. Now, the whole practice of meditation is to
help you have more spaciousness between your thoughts with which
to question your thoughts, with which to observe your thoughts,
to become the capital o observer.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Now, the work that I do.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
With the clearings and activation is actually speeds that process
up right, So everything that I am saying is not
going to be natural and easy to you if you've
done no work on yourself.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
So please understand that.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
And a lot of people quit right in the beginning
because our minds are so geared for instant gratification from
our conditioning. In a way, can we live as consumers
that if the payoff isn't immediate, we quit. It's not
we're talking about plant life. You don't yell at a
plant to hurry up and grow. This is the same
level we're talking about our soul, our spirits, our consciousness

(55:09):
is organic matter.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, so you're amazing. How do people reach you? Give
us your contact information? So we only have about thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Vibrational Upgrade dot com and I have a free Facebook group.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Yes, I'm still on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Vibrational Upgrade dot Com or Vibrational Upgrade System is the
Facebook group. I'm on Instagram Alison one l j kay
dot com as well as that's my name, Alison JK
on YouTube. I'm on Amazon and you have to just
use one L in the middle, initial J in the
last time. Kay. So, Vibrational Upgrade dot com is my

(55:49):
website if you want to get right to it. Magic
Manifestation and money Flow is the program that does that.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Great.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Thank you so much, Alison. This is wonderful.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Keep up the good work you too, Rich. Thank you
for having me on.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
This is a great channel over Times Media, so I'm
really happy that you're doing this and it Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Thank you and I'll see everybody next week.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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