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June 26, 2025 56 mins
Air Date - 25 June 2025

Do you believe that if you were perfect, life wouldn’t be so painful? Are you noticing that the more you strive for this deceptive perception of perfection, the more painful life becomes? Dr. Marla Goldberrg helps others let go of those false, limiting perceptions by healing their wounds and learning to accept and love themselves. Her “fire of desire” is to help others release repressed emotions, learn to forgive, and obtain true self-love. Dr. Marla Goldberrg is a Doctor of Metaphysics and Healing, an intuitive, a public speaker, a teacher, and an international bestselling author. She hosts the Guided Spirit Conversations podcast and is an Ordained Non-Denominational Minister.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the

(00:31):
origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place

(00:52):
based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
align with and embody your true self and live a
life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Royce Morales.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello everyone, thank you for joining us. I am excited,
of course today to welcome a very special guest, and
she is going to talk about loving ourselves, something we
all need to do and something that we find it
really hard to do for some reason, well for lots
of reasons, but we'll talk about that in a minute.

(01:34):
But before I even introduce her, I want to mention
that I do have a sub stack and I would
love for you guys to follow it read what I'm
writing about, and it's called Royce's Ramblings excuse me. And
I'm also introducing, or have introduced, a new offering from

(01:56):
what I do, and I call it Elevated Intensives, which
is kind of a crash course in everything that I
teach in my Perfect Life Awakening courses, but it's done individually,
so you get the information and you also get personal
guided sessions to help release some of that old stuff

(02:17):
getting in the way of loving yourself and manifesting a
joyful life, deserving life. Also, and this is very exciting.
Through this wonderful organization Home Times, I have been invited
to do to lead a panel, and what the discussion
is going to be about is awakening. What is awakening?

(02:41):
What does it really mean? We're all striving for it,
but we don't even know half the time what we're
striving for. So we're going to have that on August eighth,
which just happens to be a full moon, and I
know nothing about astrology. But somebody said, oh, that's Lion's Gate,
So I don't know what that means, but I'm excited
that that's the date we chose eight to eight, So

(03:04):
market in your calendars. All right, let me introduce my
guest today, doctor Marla Goldberg, with two RS. So you're
trying to find her, and you don't put the two
RS in there, you'll never find her. I discovered that
the hard way. She is talking about the fact that
a lot of us believe that if we were just perfect,

(03:27):
life would be wonderful, life wouldn't be so painful. And
of course that is a very strange false belief that
we have, but it's something that runs us most of
the time. And I find and she also finds that
the more we strive for that perfection, the more painful

(03:48):
life can become. So yes, I've been there, done that. Yes,
So she has endured personal obstacles in her life and
going to share about that, and now she helps other
people get past those notions and really love themselves. And

(04:09):
her desire is to spread the word about all that
to help others release repressed emotions and learn to forgive
and obtain true self love. Whatever self love is. I
hope she's going to define what that is. She's a
doctor of metaphysics and healing. She's an intuitive, a public speaker,

(04:30):
a teacher, best selling author. Welcome, Marla. I'm so glad
you're here.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Thank you, Royce, I'm so happy to be here with
you and your guests, your listeners. Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
And by the way, I always forget to mention this.
If you're watching live, feel free to send us a
message or a question or just you know, thumbs up,
whatever you want to send, and it'll show up right
on our screen and we'll be able to communicate with you.
So first of all, tell us your story. Tell us
how you came to do what you're doing and the

(05:04):
obstacles that you went through. Tell us a little bit
about yourself.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh you sure? This is only an hour show. So
like many of us, right, and I didn't even realize
like how dysfunction my life was. But from the very beginning,
my life was totally dysfunctional. And on top of the

(05:29):
dysfunction going on between my parents and of course family members.
We all have our stuff, but there was a lot
of judgment and a lot of criticism and a lack
of support and a lack of guidance and direction throughout
my life, especially my early life. And there were special
people in my life that have helped steer my ship,

(05:51):
but they were not They could only go so far
because you don't know what you don't know, which is
you know quite a bit, and then going through making
similar mistakes over and over again, getting similar results, trying
to be as you'd mentioned perfect. I tried to do
everything perfectly. Guess what. It didn't change my life more perfect.

(06:14):
It made it still as challenging as ever. And because
I had so much going on in my head, I
was not able to, you know, listen to my guidance,
receive my guidance. Because one thing I learned while going
on my path is you have to get quiet. If
you don't get quiet, you're not going to hear it.

(06:36):
Because spirit doesn't yell at you. It pretty much whispers
or it gives you a gentle nudge, and if you're
not paying attention, you can very easily miss the symbols.
But going back to I was in my first marriage
and it was so horrible and it was abusive, and

(06:58):
it just was like I was like a dear headlights
not knowing what to do because I went into a
deep depression and I was stuck. I was so totally
stuck in my life. And there was a woman's conference.
And at the woman's conference, there was a gal who
was talking about how to heal yourself. And there was
a little voice, this little voice actually came through who said,
what do you have to lose? What do you have

(07:20):
to lose? And I was supposed to go with a
friend who begged off at the last minute, and I
normally wouldn't go, but I went anyway because that little
voice kept repeating itself. And as I was waiting for
the lecture to begin, I was going up and down
and looking at all the exhibitors, and I stopped at
a table and it happened to be the woman who

(07:40):
was going to lecture, who ended up becoming my first
metaphysical teacher. And I, for the longest time, I couldn't understand,
you know, what she was talking about. And then you know,
the light went on and I finished her what is it?
Nine nine triannual classes, graduated my first metaphysical school, and thought, Okay,

(08:04):
I'm just going to go live my life. Well, you know,
Spirit has other plans for you. And when spirit has
plans for you, trust me what I tell you. You
might try to do things, but they're going to make
sure that you go back to the path as I'll
refer to it. And so I was then introduced to
SRT Spiritual Response Therapy, which is one of my absolute

(08:26):
favorite clearing and healing modalities. It's very powerful. It turned
my divorce around. So I was a client before I
was a practitioner of it, and in doing so, you
know what it does is it removes blocks, programs, interferences
both on this life in your past life through your

(08:46):
Kashak records. And it did a one ad on my
divorce because it was going one way and at the
end of the day it went one hundred and eighty
degrees in my favor. And I said, okay, I need
to learn this. But my education kept going and going
and going. And then I found Delfi University, which is

(09:07):
in Mckaysville, Georgia. That's why i'd gotten my doctorate and
spent two years studying there various modalities, very interesting modalities
by the way, And when I graduated and got my doctorate,
I didn't stay down for long because now I'm working
on my honing my psychic medium skills working with this couple,

(09:31):
and there they go under my mediumship umbrella. But the
point is is I'm just I just keep learning. There's
so much you could learn from the day you're born
to the day you die, and there's still more. Yeah,
so it's sort of like a thumbnail of my progress.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I think what you just said is important because we
live in a fast food world, you know, and everybody
wants instant enlightenment and instant change. And I'm thinking as
you're talking that that could be why some of us
think that if we're just perfect, everything will be okay.
So if I lose twenty pounds, then the right guy

(10:13):
will show up, everything will be fine in my life,
because that's like an instant fix. But the deeper fixes,
they like you said, they could take a lifetime, and
I don't even want to call them fixes, you know,
the unfolding or the remembering or the getting in touch
with who you really are can take a lifetime, exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
But there are some people, the younger selves, this is
a learning this because they haven't learned this before. And
what is wonderful to know is no matter how much
education you get in one lifetime. It's never a waste
because you take it with you when you incarnate, you
take it with you to the other side. And though
you may not remember it the way you're experiencing it

(10:55):
in this life, you still don't lose what you learn,
and your ascension still stays ascended. You don't go down
unless you go down. But most people who are ascending,
you know, don't do the more lower vibrational actions to people.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah. Once, once you get it, you get it. It's there.
It's just a process of remembering really.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, So talk about why people have such a hard
time just loving themselves. What I know, there's tons of reasons,
but what are some core reasons why we just can't say, wow, no,
I love you, Royce.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, it starts with who we choose to bring in
as our parents, you know, because before we incarnate, believe
it or not, And this was a hard one for
me to wrap my mind around. We choose our parents,
our siblings, and we know our experiences before come in.
The thing is is do you remember men in black

(12:02):
and you know they did that amnesia goon at you
and everything gets erased. Well, that's what happens when you
come out to the wound, you get shot with that
amnesia gone hypothetically and all these memories go away, because
if you had the memories, it would get in the
way of what you're here to learn, what you're here
to heal, and what you're here to do.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
And so.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Then we get these parents. I'm going to start with
parents or grandparents. But whether they're knowingly doing it or
unconsciously doing it, there's judgment, there's criticism. They forget that.
Us little kids, little babies are sponges. They hear what's
going on. You know, they take in and if somebody goes, oh,

(12:49):
you know, so and so has a funny nose, well,
guess what that's imprinted on you, whether it's meant to
hurt you or not. You know, these things are embraced
on an energetic level because everything is energy. And then
we have we can you know, as we get older,
more people come into our lives, classmates, teachers, other authority figures,

(13:12):
religious figures, and they all make their comments, they make
their criticisms and make their judgments. Well, we as living sponges,
take it in and then we'll go, oh, I'm not
good enough, I'm not good enough. They're judging me, they're
criticizing me. Though they may not be able to wrap
their mind around those exact words, but they know that

(13:34):
something is wrong. And then they start doing things to
try to be perfect, because they give if they're perfect,
I'm not going to be judged, I'm not going to
be criticized. I'm going to be accepted. Not always the case,
and most times it isn't the case. And all you
do is drive yourself crazy because, let's say six, there
is no such thing as perfection, you know, and we're

(13:57):
not here to be perfect. We're here to learn, we
are here to heal past traumas and the things we
are dealing with experience in this lifetime. So that's why
people have a hard time loving themselves. And then, of course,
I'm sorry, I just have to have one more part.
Let's talk on social media. Let's talk about advertisements. Let's

(14:20):
talk about you know, the perceptions that marketers put out
there of what will make us quote unquote perfect perfect skin,
perfect body, perfect clothes, perfect hair. Well, guess what, none
of it is going to happen. You're always going to
find something that is imperfect. The important part is to say,
but that's a part of who I am, and I

(14:42):
like who I am, and it's learning how to really
like yourself, which helps you learn to love yourself. As
I always say, ward sprinkles and all.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So one of the things that I teach in my
courses is that somebody can say negative things to day
and night, all day long, forever, and the only reason
it would have an impact on you is that there's
part of me that already believes that. So if I
believe that I'm stupid, you know, I arrive here with

(15:16):
that notion for some reason brought with me or whatever,
and I have parents that start telling me that, you know,
and I buy into it. It's because I already have
that belief. They're just reminding me of that. They're yeah, yeah,
So how do you feel about that? Do you get
into that with your work?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I do I feel that? Yes, you know, that's I
was saying. The authority figures in our lives. You know,
they reinforce things that we have. Do we bring things
from the other side? Yes, we do, and we do
need to work on them. We need to acknowledge what
they are and work on them because let's let's forget

(15:59):
you know, the but it starts to allow us to say, hey,
I'm not so bad, this isn't a horrible thing. When
I was in my beginning, early in my path, I
read Debbie Ford's Dark Knight of the light Chasers. I
think the book is but it talks about the duality

(16:21):
of the soul and knowing that sometimes you have to
stand up for yourself, so being a little assertive or aggressive,
which is always used in a negative like, so you're
so aggressive, like it's a bad thing, But it's not
always a bad thing. Sometimes you have to be to
stick up for yourself when you learn to stick up,

(16:42):
because sticking up yourself is putting boundaries up. Boundaries are
a lot of are something that most people don't really
have delineated. They might a little bit, or they don't
at all, But more and more people are becoming very
aware of how important boundaries are. But it helps not

(17:04):
allow people to project their their their negative stuff on you. Yeah,
but which I know I missed something, but fear Fred
of Reap.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Oh yeah, you kind of lost for a second there.
But what I wanted to say was, I think that's
important to a degree. But if I find that people
have take that notion and kind of use it to
block the opportunity to see what's being shown to them

(17:40):
about themselves. In other words, if I believe that I'm stupid,
I keep using that example, and I have parents that
keep telling me I'm stupid. By putting boundaries up and
saying stop saying that, I'm missing the opportunity to really
look at what that's about for me. Do you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
It's like do and I think there's there's two sides
to that. And I think you're you're right with what
you're saying because it's impressing it. But when first of all,
you have to become mature enough to understand to put
boundaries up. Let me preface that, but people, when people
keep projecting their negative stuff like you're stupid, you're stupid,

(18:21):
you're stupid. Using your example, yes, you take it in
and you begin to believe you're stupid, and you do
stupid things so that they could reinforce your stupid. When
you start becoming aware of wait a second, I'm not
so stupid, And I'll share a story with you on
the other side of this, I'm not so stupid. That's

(18:41):
when you start, you know, understanding that this isn't necessarily you.
So when I was graduating in high school, my freshman
year science teacher came to the graduation and she said,
I remember you, You're the dumb blonde with brown hair. Well, right,

(19:02):
what is that enforced? But meanwhile, I know I'm not dumb,
So you know, internally there was like I couldn't bring
it in because it's no I thought it was rude,
I thought it was inappropriate. But at eighteen years old,
I'm like, but I'm not dumb. And once I realized
I wasn't, was the beginning of me at least taking

(19:26):
hold of some of my power of who, of knowing
who I am and being dumb or stupid? Was it
one of them? So I think that people can start
gaining awareness contrary to what people are projecting on them,
to start going, well, wait a minute, I'm not stupid.

(19:48):
Why do they keep calling me stupid? What am I doing?
But at some point you realize it's really not about you,
when you've become when you go down the path and
you learn more, it's really a projection of showing these
peop both showing who they are to you. So, but
I agree with your point as well.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Right, Yeah, because I find that if you really don't
believe that you're stupid, really, you know, not just acting
like it. But if you really don't believe you're stupid,
you don't have to put up a boundary. You don't
have to say, don't say that to me anymore, because
it rolls off your back. It's like, oh, that's just
their stuff, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
To a point, yes, but boundaries are very healthy. I
feel boundaries are very healthy. Let me clarify it that way,
and that you know somebody is saying things like you're stupid,
You're stupid, you stupid at some point you know, it's
sort of like you need to stop because I know differently,
and if you want to believe that, you believe it,

(20:48):
but you know, you've got to stop saying it to
me because you know it's not affecting me. The other thing, too,
is when people find out that their projections are not
affecting you, they'll find something else to project on you.
They'll stop calling you stupid. They might call you something else,
but they're not going to call you stupid anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, So let's change the subject just a little bit
and let's talk in kind of bigger terms right now?
What about what's going on right now in the world.
I know that everything you're saying about loving yourself, there's
nothing that's more important. But how difficult is it to

(21:29):
do that right now when there's so much going on
around us, and so much chaos and craziness and all that.
How do you what do you say about all that?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, I think we need to look at two sides.
Let's look at self love for ourselves. You can still
be on a path to self love with all the
noise going on outside and all the negative stuff, because
it's a separate issue. Now, how people might upset the

(22:03):
balance of your opinion, you know, you being on your path.
And again, something that happened to me is used your voice,
your feelings. You have a right to an opinion. First
Amendment right, and then where I was called woke and
I was, you know, attacked because of my beliefs, Well,
guess what woke means aware? So I'm okay being woke.

(22:27):
I have to put that out there, but it didn't
change my self love. I feel that what's going out
there and make people nervous uncomfortable, give you insecurity because
that's what media is putting out there, whether it's social
media or commercial media like MSNBC or Fox News or

(22:51):
something like that, and you know it's it's done to
bring a lot of noise and make things rock. And
when I say rocky, I don't mean like the up
and down challenging, which it could be, but I'm talking
about like unbalanced to keep you like unsure of what's
going to happen and what's going on out there. But

(23:17):
I still but as I say that, I still say
self love is self love. And if you love yourself,
and if you accept yourself and have faith in knowing
that you're protected and knowing you know your inner knowing
light is just you know, on and bright, then all
this stuff can go on around you and it can

(23:38):
affect you a little bit, but it's not going to
affect you the way it might affect somebody else.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
In my opinion, Yeah, I want to go back, and
we need to take a break in a couple of minutes,
but I want to go back to something you said
that I'm agreeing with on one level, but on another level,
based on my own personal experience, I just want to
throw it into the mix. When you said that a

(24:03):
lot of time spirit or higher consciousness or the universe
comes to us in a whisper yes, little nudge in
my experience of being nudged, you know, in the butt,
and it can come very strong yes messages. So why

(24:27):
do we have Well, I know the answer for me,
I needed to be kicked in the butt, you know.
But a lot of people just miss those little, tiny,
subtle messages and whatever, what do you say about that?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I say, you're right, because you know most of the
time they will be subtle. But here's what I've learned
from my personal experience. And okay, I'm just going to
share a quick story about the first time I saw
a spirit energy. And when the first time I saw it,
I was having lunch. Now I had learned, you know

(25:05):
that it doesn't make a difference. But anyway I saw
the energy, I was having lunch. I put it out,
I said, when I'm done, because she wanted me to
relay a message to somebody. And she's spiritual form. Right.
She was murdered when she was seventeen, strangled this gale,
and so I went in the back to where we
were and what was interesting is that she we were

(25:26):
talking to this woman who was telling us her story,
and she's tapping me on the shoulder, and at first
the tap was gentle, very soft, like I told you,
but I didn't move on her speed. She wanted me
to say something, and she wanted me to say something
right away, but I had to wait for a segue
because if I just blurted it out, people would have

(25:47):
looked at me like I had three heads. So I'm waiting.
I'm just pacing my time and many Teyson, these taps
are getting harder and harder and harder, and she is
really pushing me to say it. I finally tell what
she wanted, the message she wanted me to share. She
disappeared like that, but she wanted me to you know,

(26:10):
she was getting her point across that you need to
tell them this now. The other story is, you know,
went up before I started my practice. Spirit, I was
sound asleep, I was traveling with my husband. Spirit screamed
at me, so this was not gentle, in this big, loud,
booming voice, that I needed to start a practice and

(26:31):
started and start being of service. And I wake up
and I look around. My husband's sleeping and I'm like,
who said this? Who's in my room? So you're one
hundred percent right. Spirit can get very loud and very pushy.
I had a guess in my show where Spirit pushed
her off a cliff to get her attention, not physically

(26:53):
but in the spiritual. No, no, no, not physically, but
in the spiritual because at first when she was telling
the story, I said that too. Yes, So, yeah, if
you're not getting it, Spirit's going to find a way
to kick you in the booty. And kicking you in
the body can also mean it's going to be you know,
if you don't change your ways, it's going to keep
bringing you the same thing that's going to give you

(27:16):
same results when you want different results. And what's the
definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over
again expecting different results.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah. One of my mottos is Spirit will do whatever
it takes. You know, whatever is going to work for
this person, that's what will you know. And for me
it was kicking me in the butt. For somebody else
it could be pushing them off a cliff, whatever it is.
So we need to take a bit of a break.

(27:45):
I'm talking to Marla, doctor Marla Goldberg with you ours
and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (30:21):
Welcome back. I am chatting with doctor Marlo Goldberg today
and we're talking about self love, something that is so important.
I think, like crucially important. What the world would be
if everybody just loved themselves. You know, that's pretty amazing. Yeah,

(30:44):
go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's okay. I think that if everybody love, we truly
love themselves, they'd be kinder to others. They'd be kinder
to themselves, number one, But more importantly, they'd be kinder
to others. And I don't think we'd find this kind
of strife going on if we could get more people
on the path.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yes, I absolutely agree. So you mention in your bio
that you sent me that you have fifty different techniques
that you use with others. Can you share maybe the
most powerful in how that works and what you do
to help other people to love themselves.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
So I think so I've been trained in over fifty modality,
so I'll just clarify it that way. Again. My favorite
I mentioned earlier, Spiritual response therapy. So powerful, Such an
incredibly powerful modality in terms of helping one to heal
because it works with the Akashak records, it works with

(31:43):
past life issues as well as current life issues. And
the cool thing what I've learned with SRT spiritual response
therapy is that I clear something, let's say, for you, Royce,
from a past life. Well, that past life gives you
a thread into your current life, which threads into future incarnations. Well,

(32:03):
if you clear what happened in the past, it clears
what happens in the present, and it stops it from
showing up in the future. And it's just and again
you can do it. If I clear something in present life,
it breaks the thread to the back and it breaks
the thread to the thread to the future. So an

(32:24):
incredibly powerful modality. That's my favorite healing modality.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Can you tell us a little bit about how that works.
What is the technique?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
So the technique is there's a book of charts. See
if you're number one chart, and then it's broken down
from there. A reverend I'm trying to Oh my god,
my brain is just I just had a blank moment.
I'll figure out. But they're out of Washington State, the

(32:55):
Association Spiritual Response Therapy Association. But you take it's a
dowsing modality, and the first chart shows you where you'll
find these blocks, programs, interferences that need clearing. Some of
them need research. Some of them you can just clear,
but it just shows you where it is. If it
needs research, you know it's a more involved situation with

(33:19):
more detail and more energies and emotions specifically attached to
that block program, interference wound, and you clear it. And
the great thing about it is that it just really
does work. But with the caveat with anything. Earlier, you
were talking about healing and how people just want instant gratification,

(33:41):
They just want to be healed. What people who work
with healers don't and I'm not saying this about everyone,
this is broad stroke, is that you have to participate
in your own healing. You can go to a practitioner
who can help you, but you need to be able
to be a participant. For example, if you came to

(34:01):
me as a client, I would tell you about the process,
we would do the process and then but I would
always say, just allow it to assimilate. Just go on
with your day after you're done, don't think about anything,
don't refer back to it, just let it go, because
if you start thinking about the issue, let's say it's depression,

(34:22):
and I do all this work, you know, with you
and for you, and then the minute I'm done and
say how do you feel, it's like, well did you
clear the depression? You will just undo everything I did,
and that's your participation in it. So you as a client,
you know, just if you just drink a lot of
water and get on with your day and try not

(34:42):
to think about what happened, you're just doing yourself a service,
a big service. Excuse me. Other modalities. I love helping
people through psychic mediumship, and because when a spirit comes through,
whether somebody is just doing a psychic greeting, which is

(35:04):
talking about the person who is referred to as the
sitter or the communicator who might be an ancestor from
another or somebody you know who's transitioned giving you message.
It's all here to help you in your crew. So
I love doing that with people. Excuse me, and you

(35:27):
know say with people, not for people, because it just
it's it's we're collaborating, you know, it's not just one
person handling it.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's a yeah. So how would getting in touch with
somebody's ancestors and doing a psychic greeting, how would that
help someone to love themselves?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Because a lot of times people who transition, the people
who are left behind there's unfinished business. And so self talk, right,
so you talk about, oh I feel bad I didn't
take goodbye. We had an argument, or we had crosswords,
or we didn't you know, we were estranged, whatever might be,
and now I'm so sorry, and then you start with

(36:12):
negative self talk. When a communicator from the other side comes,
number one, it proves they haven't left you and that
whatever happened between you two happened. They're not angry, they've
let it go, they've forgiven and a lot of time
that is a piece that the sitter needs to hear

(36:35):
to know that there's no hard feelings and that they're
around and all they're doing is wanting to give love
and not more of whatever they thought about or whatever
the disagreement might or estrangement might have been about. Yeah,
and that's how mediumship helps somebody on their journey to

(36:56):
self love, because if they know that somebody who they
had an argument with is no longer on this earth
will forgive them, then they can learn to forgive themselves,
which is harder than forgiving another being.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really important. I find that that's
what things just really boil down to, is self forgiveness.
So what other techniques do you do that would help
somebody forgive themselves and let go of all that guilt.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
So I've written a book. It's called My fucking Long
Journey to Loving Myself, A Guide to a Shorter Path.
Just show the cover on the video and in the
back of those books. So it's my biography. But when
I was doing it, Spirit kept guiding me and telling
me to add techniques. So in the back I have
fourteen techniques of various kinds of releasing repressed emotions because

(37:48):
that gets in the way of loving yourself, because if
you can't emote and get it all out of your system.
It's eating you know. The phrase eating you alive is
a true phrase because really, you know, affects you mentally, physically,
emotionally if you don't allow it to release. So there
are techniques to doing that. There's techniques to forgiveness, forgiving yourself,

(38:11):
forgiving others. There's techniques about accepting yourself. You know, exercises
to do about forgiving yourself and accepting yourself, and all
of these help one in their healing process to their
self love. And it steps right. If you don't release

(38:33):
the emotion that you've repressed, how do you let in love.
It's like people have built walls around their hearts because
they don't want to be hurt again. Well, you think
you're protecting yourself, but you're not, because not only can't
you feel someone else's love towards you, somebody can't feel
your love towards them. And then you find that there

(38:53):
always running into a brick wall. And these metaphors come
up for a reason, you know, in these sayings, and
then you know the forgiveness part of self love. Forgiving
another being is a gift you give yourself. It's not
a gift you give them. I can't tell you how
many clients I had, I'd say, why would I want
to do that? Why would I forgive them? They're the

(39:14):
ones who did it. But forgiving them allows you more freedom.
You know. It's sort of like if you have chained
binding you, it breaks those chains because you're not letting
them off the hook. You're letting yourself off the hook
from what they might have done. But the self forgiveness,

(39:37):
which is the hardest I think of all which are
your exercises and self forgiveness in the book. But you know,
we we wouldn't talk to our worst enemies the way
most of us talk to ourselves. You know that. You know,
like you said, you started with I'm stupid, or you know,

(39:59):
I'm so this or so that. It's all negative. Well,
when you start forgiving yourself, the negative goes away. And
part of forgiving yourself is gratitude, gratitude for what you have,
being acknowledging the gratitude you have in your life. A
lot of people just take it for granted what they
have or what they don't have. But as you notice,

(40:19):
people focus more on what they don't have than what
they do have. But energetically, energy flows where thoughts go
so if you keep thinking towards the negative, I don't have,
I don't have, I don't have like I'm broke and
broke and broke. Yes, what you're not going to get
rich telling yourself you broke. It's against spiritual law in
there if you say, I might not have it now.

(40:43):
But do you think about ways? Yes, I am abundant,
I am a bud you know through this, I have
a roof of them, I have food on my table
and and spirit gives you more of what you think of.
So if you think more positively, you get more positively.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So back to the techniques of forgiving yourself. But can
you share one of those techniques for our audience.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yes, so it's and it's a two. This is a
two for a technique because it could be you know,
forgiving somebody else or forgiving yourself. But it is about
automatic writing. So if you don't know what automatic writing
out there as the audience, it's when you go into
sort of a meditative trance. But before you come out

(41:31):
of it, you have a pen and a paper near you,
and before you totally come out of the trance, you
pick up your pen and you just start writing whatever
whatever comes out and you don't think about it. You
don't judge, you don't criticize, you don't edit, You just write.
And at the beginning, if you don't know what to write,
say I don't know what to write, I don't know
what's right. I don't but something will click in and

(41:52):
you will write it. And if it's about forgiving somebody else,
you could start saying, I'm going to forgive you because
though you did X, Y, and Z, this is how
it affected me, and I'm going to forgive you so
it doesn't affect me anymore. This is just hypothetical, but
you can do the same with forgiving yourself too. With
this process, and then, as I like to say, when

(42:15):
you're done writing, it can be one page, it could
be twenty pages. That's totally up to you what comes
out of you and what you need to process on
the paper. Give yourself a break, stand up, stretch your legs,
get a beverage, go to the bathroom, whatever you might need,
Sit back down, go into another trance or meditative place,

(42:36):
and then when you come out of it, start writing.
Or you know, you set the attention, I'm going to
write a response, and then you automatically write your response again.
Don't read it while you're writing it. Don't judge, don't edit,
don't critic, you know, critique it, just write. When you're
done with that, there's a there's an optional third step.

(42:57):
The optional third step, once you get up and stretch
your legs could be you can respond as Spirit, God,
whatever you want to call it, going back into that
meditative place, coming out and then just writing in the
place of that higher self or that higher spiritual being.
When this is all said and done, then you take

(43:21):
another break. Then read the letter you wrote to yourself
about forgiving. Read the response to yourself about forgiving. And then,
if you did the third option, read what Spirit said
to you, and you'll find that it is so cathartic
in what you will receive. And this is all done

(43:43):
from spirit, in your high self.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
What about with my clients, I always take them another
step where I have them determine something they can do
in the real world as a statement of forgiving themselves
or a statement enough for giving others. Is there some
sort of action that goes with that?

Speaker 5 (44:04):
For you?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I think the action depends upon what the situation is.
Because we have a lot of you know, we have
a lot of facets. We have a lot of situation,
so each one is different. But if it has something
to do with not being lovable, for example, well you
can you know, affirmations. Louise Hey has great affirmations about

(44:29):
loving yourself and learning how to love yourself. And I
love myself because I know what kind of a heart
I have. I know what a caring person I am.
I know what my intentions are to other people, you know,
And they can walk away stating something like that. But
if they're doing it themselves just from reading my book

(44:49):
and I'm not working with them, this is something they'll
have to determine on their own and create their own
statement self statement to support it.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, So you don't encourage, you know, gosh, I really
don't forgive myself for saying that horrible thing to my
mother when I was three years old. You don't say
to them, well, is there some way to clean that
up with your mom? Because I find that that really
kind of grounds the whole thing. It's like, oh, I
finally said that to my mom after fifty years. That
kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
You know, everything is so personal. Yeah, you know, if
you're having and so individual, and if you're having like
this issue with your mother, you can write a forgiveness
letter to your mother. You know, you know, I'm sorry
for saying this, And they could do this consciously, but
you know, you can always say you're sorry, even if

(45:43):
they're not around here. You can always forgive someone. It's energetic,
it goes through the ethers. So I mean, I don't
know if I mean. My belief system is just a
little bit different than yours, but I belie believe that
you can just say mom, I'm really sorry, because in
fifty years your mom might not be here for you

(46:04):
to be able to see you're sorry too, but they
do hear you on the other side. So if you
say I'm sorry that I disappointed you, or I hurt
your feelings, or I didn't do this, or I didn't
do that, they're still going to get the message and
they're not going to hold it against you. Yeah, and
that will help you on your path.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah. And just as a personal story of doing that
with my own mom when she was still alive, I
was raised with a lot of issues with my mom
just put it mildly, and she was the most judgmental
person I've ever met in my life. And I was
raised with a lot of judgment and a lot of criticism.

(46:47):
And once I was on my spiritual path and I
did some inner work and I started understanding that it
was just me that I was judging, it wasn't her.
So I tried to write her. I actually did. I
wrote her a letter, and I tried to explain it
in very down to earth ways, No, and really watched

(47:10):
how I said it. And I didn't sound woo woo,
and I didn't sound spiritual. And I sent her this
beautiful letter thanking her for being my best teacher in life.
And I mean, I knew what I meant, but I
just wanted her to know that I had evolved to
a place where I could really love her. And she
got that letter and she was like, what are you

(47:31):
talking about? What do you mean? I mean, she couldn't
understand it at all. It was kind of a warning
to people to just be really careful when you do
take those action steps that it might not be appropriate
for the person that is getting those letters or those whatevers.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, but they might not even see that their action
caused this, or they might not remember that you even
did this. You know, memories can be very Swiss cheesy,
very holy, I don't mean holly like spiritual talking about holes. Yeah,
and so you know I did dad to a relative also,

(48:09):
and she had no idea what I was talking about
or anything else. So it was Youah, but you did it.
And here's the thing, whether they accept the recipient is
in human form or they've transitioned, they you know, whether
they actually cognitively get it or not. Energetically, it will

(48:31):
touch their soul and it will touch their heart. So
they might be like, you know, like I was talking earlier,
too much in their head to understand what you're trying
to bring to them.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And it's not about them anyway, It's
about you. So there you go exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, it's not about pleasing them, right, it's about you know,
making sure that you love yourself and you're doing the
right steps with integrity.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yes, definitely. So I also read in your bio that
you're passionate about spreading this work around helping people in
a bigger way to get to that point of self love.
How is it that you're doing that is? What are
the action steps that you're taking?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Oh well, I work my steps personally every day, you know,
for self love because like anything, it's like exercise. If
you want a tone body, what do you have to do?
You have to do the work. If you want to
stay loving to yourself, you have to do the work.
It's a never ending process, and nor should it be ending,

(49:42):
because what's so bad about loving yourself and making sure
And here's the thing. We will step off our course.
We're human beings. We're meant to step off our course.
But here's the piece. It's not about holding it against
ourselves and again regressing. It's about saying, oh I messed up,
I'm really sorry, I'm going to do better moving forward.

(50:06):
Just saying that alone to the ethers is as a
way to just put forgiveness out there to yourself and
again continue then down on yours, on your path regarding
clients and whatnot. I do it through my sessions, you know,
we you know, through the sessions, we talk about what's

(50:28):
going on and we will work on, you know, making
sure that you understand that you know you can love
yourself and still trip and fall and hurt yourself, but
still love you know that you are clumsy and laugh
about it and not take it so seriously. We're we're

(50:52):
just we're just spiritual beings in the human form having
these experiences so that we can learn and take our
education with us to the next life. And hopefully I
have to deal with it again because we've learned our lessons.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, as you're talking it, just a question came to me.
I had a situation in my life years ago where
I did some things that just didn't work out. There
were a lot of things that got in the way
of having something work out, and I have a particular
relative that has a very different philosophy of life than

(51:27):
I do, and this person judged me for all of
these things that I did, and it took years for
her to stop judging me. And what I realized is
she was again just reflecting my own judgment on the
choices that I made. And when I finally forgave myself,
she literally called me up and said, you know, I

(51:50):
forgive you for what you did, and I see that
you've really made some changes in your life. And it
was such a good instant validation of Wow, I did
the work, yes, you know. And just I just want
to remind people that situations where you are still judging
yourself get reflected to you in some way. And when
you resolve them, what gets reflected is yay, you did.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
It exactly well it is. It just shows others because
you energetically start changing, which then people will perceive, like
for your vibrational rays, and people were saying, what's different
about you? What have you changed about you? In a
positive not in a judgmental way, you know, and then
they all of a sudden start understanding that there's more.

(52:38):
Then you know that you've did something's different. They might
not know what's different, but that's something's different.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, definitely. So tell us a little bit about your book.
We only have a couple minutes. A little bit of
telling us.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
So you can get my book, My fucking Long Journey
to Loving Myself. I love the title thank You A
Guide to a Shorter Path on Amazon, and it's a
very easy read. It just talks about because when I
started writing it, it was about so I just want
to clarify. When I started writing it, I did it
through automatic writing because I didn't know what my book

(53:16):
was going to be about, but I knew I needed
to write a book, and so half of the book
was just automatically written and I would go through the process.
I explained about the forgiveness letters. And then I stopped
and I said, I better see what I'm writing. And
I started reading it. It's like, oh, this is my
life story. And I wrote it because many people think

(53:38):
that what they're going through, that they're the only ones
going through it, that they're not. Then you know, I
can't tell me. People read my book and said, oh
my god, I felt like I was your life was
my life. You know, things might names might be different,
people might be different, but very very similar things going on.

(53:59):
And so I did is to help them. And then
Spirit said, add the techniques, and then to make a
different In my book, I share where I would have
used the techniques and what techniques I would have used
at the times prior to knowing I knowing and learning
these techniques, these modalities of healing and helping. And so

(54:21):
that's what my book is about. And hopefully I know
I've gotten a lot of you know, wonderful emails and
text messages and you know, and messages just stating how
helpful it's been to them. And that's being of service.
That's of me being of service by sharing this.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, well, keep that the good work and let's get
everybody to love themselves and bring peace to this planet
once and for all. Absolutely a lot of people get
in touch with you.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
So my my email is Marla Goldberg Goldberg has two
hours do I'm sorry Goldberg at gmail dot com. Or
there's Marla Goldberg Healer and this Goldberg only has one R.
And there's a story, but we don't have time at
gmail dot com and you can, you know, email me.

(55:15):
You can find me on Facebook, Marlo Goldberg Goldberg having
two hours dot com. I'm on Instagram the same way,
and you know, but I love emails and text messages
and if you have a question, please feel free to
email me at Marla Goldberg Healer at gmail dot com.

(55:36):
Goldburg with one R.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Great, Well, thank you so much, Thank you Rice.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
This has been wonderful. I appreciate you awesome.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And I will see everybody next Wednesday. And make sure
to follow my substack Royce's ramblings and reach out to
me as well at Perfect Life Awakening dot com. And
thank you again. Keep up the good work
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