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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the
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origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place
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based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
align with and embody your true self and live a
life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Royce Morales.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Welcome, very excited today, as always, I have an
amazing guest, and before I even introduce her, I want
to share with everyone about an event that I'm putting on.
It's actually a panel discussion with three other amazing women
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and we're going to talk about. Awakening is something that
in the spiritual realm, everybody seems to talk about it
as one of those buzzwords that do you really know
what it means? And how do you get there? And
what is it really about? And why is it so
scary for people to imagine living an awakened life whatever
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that means. So put on your calendars that August eighth,
eight eight at eight am Pacific time, we're going to
be holding this panel discussion. And if you're interested in enrolling,
I don't even have the link for it yet, but
you can email me at Royce at Roysmarrales dot com.
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or directly over to Own Times. So that's it for
my pr So let me tell you about my upcoming
guest today. Her name is Tanya Dee and she's a
registered dietitian. There she is. She's a registered dietitian, master
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meditation teacher, life coach, and singer songwriter. If that's not
enough here, and she helps people move through life's those
challenging struggles and transitions like addiction, recovery, disordered eating, codependency, divorce,
and of course even more than that, she uses what
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she calls Christ centered meditation and prayers that she developed
that are scientifically proven and I'll have to ask her
about that. They're tools for achieving clarity, authenticity, and and
she teaches people how to connect with their inner light
or what I refer to as their inner spirit, to
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build emotional and spiritual intelligence rooted in. When people just
don't have personal trust and self awareness, it's really hard,
it's really easy to disconnect from that inner.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Part of us.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So welcome Tanya, Hi Royce, thank you for having me, Oh,
my pleasure. So, first of all, how did you start
doing what you're doing. I read somewhere in your bio
that you're able to connect with people that have gone
through certain things because you've personally gone through them. So
tell us your story. How did you get started?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, my journey of healing actually probably started my spiritual
journey when I was fourteen and my parents divorced, and
it was like a time of coming of age and
I didn't really have anybody to ground myself in because
my family sort of dissolved and disappeared. So I didn't
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even realize it, but I had so much anxiety from
from fourteen to twenty four, and in that period, my
anxiety manifested in an exercise disorder where I exercised over exercised,
which turned into an eating disorder and codependency substance used.
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So early in my life, I was dealing with levels
of pain and not coping with these higher consciousness ways
of dealing with pain because I had no idea. And
I think that that's how most of us, a lot
of us on the spiritual journey or on our life journey,
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end up, you know, just finding things to numb the pain,
abandon ourselves in the process, and so I became a
registered dietitian. That was my journey through college trying to
figure out, like why am I eating like this? What
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are these habits that I cannot control? So that was
kind of the first layer was become a science major
registered dietitian, learning all about the body. And then from
there I at about twenty four I had a spiritual
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awakening where I accepted Jesus into my heart and things
really shifted for me, like my mind really had a
whole different journey after that. So this is where spirituality
higher like this higher power started coming in. And then
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when I'm just telling you my layers, and then at forty,
I went through a divorce and my ex husband and
I had gotten into psychotherapy together, and I'd say that
that was another layer of learning my psychological self, like
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these deeper patterns inside of me. And then the final
layer came when my anxiety disorder really magnified itself after
my divorce and my doctor said, well, you can take
this medication or you can learn to meditate, being.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Her wise doctor, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was so lucky. And I, of course, being holistic
and a dietitian and health oriented. I said, I'm going
to learn how to meditate, and that sent me into
it a ten year, like six hundred hour training in
Kundalini yoga, which is a yoga that's primarily meant to
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take us into deeper states of meditation. And it was
really in these deeper states of meditation where I all
sort of pulled together, like all these life experiences, the
history that I had had, and I really connected because
in Kundalini yoga you have to get up four thirty
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in the morning and you have to you're chanting and
you're meditating for two hours every morning for like forever
as you like. And that's where I connected. You know,
you call it an intuitive wisdom. I've read that in
your in your readings, and that I connected to what
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spiritually is called the Holy Spirit or this wisdom that
just lives here. And that started telling me my life path.
So you're going to write a book, You're gonna This
was the hardest one for me, is you're going to
become a devotional chant. I want you to. I want
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you to make devotional champ music. And I'm a dietitian
with anxiety and I did that, and now I have
like three albums, one album on the Way of Devotional
champ music that's all in English. So like long story short,
it's really my healing journey and this has happened like
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I'm going to turn sixty three next year, and so
this was from fourteen to who I am now. And
along the way, I was helping women who have eating
disorders and then I was helping codependency. So I've been
helping primarily women my whole journey, and I still do that.
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That's what I'm specialized in, just holding groups of women
and I teach classes stuff like that. So that was
a very long story. But from that story things became
very clear, like not so complicated. So now I can
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look back and help people, I think, in a pretty
easy way how to follow this path of transformation because
it can be so difficult overwhelming, and I try to
simplify it and give like you like in my bio,
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I have like I actually teach some life skills and
you talk about that a lot. So yes, that's my journey.
It's been a long one, like we all have, right hopefully.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I'm just curious and so many people have taken
my course that find it difficult to blend religion and spirituality,
and yet it sounded like it just sort of happened
for you. Naturally you accepted Jesus and then you went
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into Cundalini. I mean, how did you bridge the two?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think that I once I became a Christian, a
follower of Christ, that's what I am. I love the
teachings of Jesus. So it's not about religion. It's about
a felt experience of this presence inside of me. Once
I found that, and then I got into Kundalini yoga.
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It's interesting because a lot of religion or religious texts
tend to be kind of intellectual, except for maybe, you know,
singing hymns. But the Kundalini yoga really takes you in
your going in work. And I studied not only the
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Bible for so long, but I started studying all the
Eastern texts potentially, and the Supra like Yogo, Sutras, like
all of this stuff, and I just kept seeing this, like,
you know, they might say it in a different way.
There's there's different languages, and even a program like the
Twelve Steps has different languaging. But the process all seems
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to be the same for like almost everyone around the world.
And so that's and it is still kind of hard
I get. You know, the real conservative Christians might call
me new age, and I say, no, I'm a new
wine skin, which Jesus said, I came to pour new
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teachings into new wine skins. So it's we're allowed to
teach like in a new way for the new generation.
And the young people love the teachings that I do
because a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Of them do yoga, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So or meditation. So I just feel like, you know,
God's been around since the beginning of the earth or
the creator, whatever you want to use as the word.
And you know, Jesus came two thousand years ago, but
before that, the teachings, God's been trying to reach us,
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to get us to do these things forever. So for me,
it's it's pretty clear that inclusivity can only help us.
And these practices that may be from a different religion
or aboriginal tribe, you know, drumming or something right really
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stirs the spirit inside of us and can really heal
our souls. So I I really just and that's Jesus too.
He's all about inclusivity and social justice. So I just
like to be as much like Jesus as I can.
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And that's what you've said this too. You know, love
your neighbor. You know, love your neighbor, and and that
requires self love. Yes, that's the hardest part.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I'm stuck on that word wine skin. What does
that mean?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
You've never heard that In the Bible. There's a scene
where Jesus is talking about like the carrier of wine.
They used to carry it like a boda bag, right,
And these bags would get old and they would call
it an old wine skin, and the wine inside of
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it would go bad. It was like it was too old.
And so Jesus comes and he says, I'm here to
pour my teachings into new wine skins. Skins. He's talking
about people who are open and receptive to hear his
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teaching and be able to make it their own in
a new and unique way. Like Jesus knows, we all
are going to take whatever teaching we have, it could
be even from Buddha, and we're going to express it
through our soul because all of our soul's experiences are
so different, and we're going to express it in a
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unique way. And you know, that's what that's what I do.
It's unique. You know, I'm saying, you can meditate, and
when you learn to meditate, you're going to find God.
It's right here, right, and you're going to find Jesus.
So or you can if you understand the concepts. So yeah,
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I just I just love that, you know, new Age,
old age, it's it's it's so, I don't know, it
just puts like a judgment and wherever you put judgment
creates separation. And I don't think Jesus would ever want
people to be saying like your teaching is like new age,
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like with a bad connotation. Yeah, so I say to
a lot of those people, well, you must just be
from the old Age. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So okay, so that that helps. So what are the
techniques that you use? Uh, you say that some of
these things are scientifically proven? Tell us a little bit
more about that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I love, love, love science. My dad was a science teacher,
and I'm science major, and whenever I can kind of
blend science and spirituality, to me, it feels like doubly
more empowering. So the science behind a lot of the
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stuff that I do comes from let's say, meditation, right,
I mean scientifically. Meditation now has just been proven to
have like the long list of benefits, right, stress reduction,
Inner Pece lowers anxiety, can help depression, like meditation gives
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you a higher awareness of things, mindfulness, just so many benefits.
So that's scientifically proven. And you know, spiritually it says
like in the Bible or other texts like be still,
be silent, you know, go within, It says all the
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same thing things and it even says I meditate a
lot in the Bible. And you know, meditation is this
practice where we're becoming self aware. And you know, your
question at the very beginning is how do we transform pain?
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And we have to be very very self aware to
do that, and meditation, for me, it's not it's the
path leads to greater and greater levels of self love.
So you know, scientifically proven. All the Kundalini yoga is
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totally scientifically proven. The the gurus you know that created
this yoga, they're all like PhDs, and you know, it's
amazing the education that these people have and their backgrounds.
And you know, the breath alone, the power of our breath,
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and that's all scientifically proven. When we breathe a certain
way it releases either a stress chemical and our down
through our body or a relaxation. We can totally change
how we're experiencing life just through our breath. So like
breath work and is so important, and that's also like biblically,
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the breath is the spirit. The breath is God's spirit.
God breathed into us the breath of life, and we
became a human being. So our breath and then there's
all these references to breath is God's spirit. It's very powerful,
it's creative, it's inspirational, it creates inspiration. So like the
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science and the spirituality on a lot of levels are
really saying we have tools that we can use, and
we have tools once we really start focusing on who
we are as a human being, how supernaturally we are
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created to be. It's amazing the few things that we
can do that are kind of easy for us, right, Like,
like what, Okay, So I'm going to say there's there's
a lot you know, there's grounding, there's being in nature,
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there's of course there's nutrition and movement, you know, whether
it's stance or whatever. But I really want to with
you explain something that is so important. I feel like
it's my Probably my main gift for my teaching is
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you know, you tell oh so many people, you and
everybody talking about the true self, self development, self love,
self awareness. So this word right comes up a lot
self and knowing. So the biggest tool I think we
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can have is knowing our true self. But that word
is so diluted, and everybody has their own definition. And
what I have found through reading the scriptural texts and
practicing meditation for so long, is this truth for me
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is that our self, our true self, has three parts.
So I don't know if you've heard this. A lot
of people say body, mind, spirit, body this, but I
always feel like one part's left out. So I found
for in my teaching, the Bible has it the clearest.
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It says we're a human being, we live in a body.
We all have a unique soul that's the next layer,
and then we are a spirit that's the most inner layer.
And our human spirit was given to us so we
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could connect to God's spirit. So when we do this
like awareness of these parts and we know we can
connect to this higher spirit, God, the universe, the Indra's net,
you know, whatever you want to call it, there is
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a power right that's in everything. It's alive and created.
So this is this is the practice for me. I
want to get into this early. We're going to have
pain coming from all three of these parts. We have pain,
bodily pains. You know. I started swimming and again I
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hadn't swimm in a long time, and I got this
pain here. It's just a bodily pain, right, and I'm
aware of that pain in my body. And if we
go into that next layer, our soul and our soul.
To me, the soul is the same word as the self,
So it's soul love, self love, soul awareness, self awareness,
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it's all of its soul esteem, you know, soul sabotage.
Our soul is where we're going to find all this
sabotaging going on. And our soul includes our mind, so
all of our thoughts are in our soul. Our emotions,
Our emotions come from our soul. Our emotions tell us
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what our soul is experiencing in this daily life. And
the third aspect of the soul is our desires, like
our free will saying I want this, I don't want this,
you know, making these choices. So this is what makes
our soul like it's so powerful, right, you can see that.
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So we've got a body very powerful, all these systems, lymphatic, circulatory, sensory.
And then we have this next layer, our soul, so powerful.
And this is where self sabotage comes from. This is
where self awareness has to come from. Awareness of our thoughts,
awareness of our feelings, and aware of what we desire
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in life. I want another cup of coffee. That's just
coming from that desire. I hunger for a relationship that's
coming from that part of us, our free will, our desire.
So we have this like body, our body, our soul
is the next layer. And then we have this deeper
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part that's the spirit. Can be aware of all of
these parts and it's the higher power. And pain comes
from all three parts. So we can see that. Now
pain comes from our body. Pain clearly comes from our soul,
our thoughts. I'm in pain, our emotions, I feel sad,
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I feel angry, like a lot of pain in our emotions,
and our spirit actually can be grieving as well if
we are not aligning with our values. So if we
have certain values, like I know I can't drink a
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lot of alcohol very little, but when I try and
I know I can't I'm not aligned with my values.
Or if I do anything that's not aligned with what
my spirit knows is the highest and best good for me,
it griefs. So you wake up in the next morning
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and you'll feel sad. So we have these three parts
that we have to always sort of be internally looking
at and being self aware. So this is the whole
picture of like everybody's talking about, you know, awakening, Like
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you were talking about you're going to hold your event.
What are we awakening to? We're really awakening to this
amazing thing that we are, you know, body, soul, spirit
connected to this higher power. And so we're a human
and we have divinity inside of us, creativity inside of us.
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When we connect all the parts, and all the parts
are kind of working all together. This one's helping this one,
this one's helping this one. In our own little body here,
lot's going on. And that's why meditation is super helpful,
even just for a season, to just observe all of
this going on in our body, and you can start
to go, oh, that's hello. You sit down in the
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morning and your soul will be the first thing to
come up, your thoughts you know, I'm trying to solve
this problem. You know, your thoughts, our mind is never
going to stop thinking. So people get that wrong in meditation,
like just stop thinking, never going to happen, because that's
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the purpose of our mind. And then we you know thing,
you tap into a feeling. I'm feeling sad this morning,
you know, so your soul comes forward and you really
begin to it's not an intellectual truth that we're multi dimensional,
it's experiential. And then that's when the whole thing starts
to get ignited, like, oh, and I actually have some
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control over this thing that I am. So that was
kind of like you said, it was okay for me
to be long winded. But that is how I make
a meditation practice very accessible to people, because people say,
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I don't know how to meditate, it's too hard. I
sit down and all I do is think is not
just thinking. You're feeling and you're desiring, because you'll sit
down and you'll want that other cup of coffee, or
you'll want to not be there, or you'll want like
the window open or something. So all of these parts
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of the soul come forward right away, and it's the idea,
is the spirit is the witness. Our spirit connected to
God's spirit is light. It's a lamp. It's supposed to shine.
There's a Bible verse that says the human the spirit
of man is the lamp of the Lord, shining on
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all of our inner parts. So it shines on our
thoughts and our emotions and our desires, and it makes
it makes us aware of them, and then we have
we can do something about it. So I just really
believe that it's the It's like that inner makeover that
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you talk about, right, You have to you have to
be able to go inside and you have to be
understanding your soul and having compassion for whatever it is
that your mind's trying to solve that problem or analyze
this thing or what everything you're feeling. You know, you've
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got to say, oh, I see you, I hear you,
I value you. And that's that's the key to getting
over the addictions, the codependency, the substance use, because all
of that stuff says to our soul, I don't want
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to see you, right, I'm not going to value you.
As a matter of fact, I might even abuse you.
I'm going to drink too much, I'm going to take
these drugs to get you to be quiet. We're always
trying to do that, are we. Yeah, And it's the
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complete opposite. You're like, wow, my mind is really ruminating
on this thing. What is it that it's trying to solve?
And we start to look at our soul is something
that's so valuable to us. It's guiding us along the way,
it's telling us solve this issue, take one step forward
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in this area, you know. And then if you get
really deep and you find that like intuitive wisdom, your
mind's struggling here and the intuitive wisdom will tell you
what to do. So it's all happening. It's all happening
right here. But you have to we have to take
this the season of I used to abandon myself. I
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used to betray myself like a lot. I used to
be true, you know, abuse myself actually, And I'm not
going to do that anymore. I'm going to value my
soul self, love soul, Love to love my soul no
matter what comes up. Okay, that's me, that's today, that's truth.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yea. So before we take a break, I have to
ask this because this is something that I talk a
lot about in my courses. I call it the higher Self,
but you're referring to it as the spirit. So either
one either word is accurate. The higher self or the
Spirit doesn't judge in the same way that our soul
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or our inner self does because it sees the bigger picture.
It sees the perfection of what it is that you're
going through, or what it is that you're even doing
to yourself or your entire life. Sees the bigger picture
and it says, well, okay, I get it. You had
to abuse yourself when you were twenty years old. Okay,
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so what did you learn from that, what did you
clean up from that? What did you do in terms
of awakening from that? But it doesn't You said that
it grievest. I don't believe that it grieves. I believe says, yeah,
that was perfect, Okay, what do we need to get
from that? What are your feelings about that?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I think, of course you're absolutely right. Like the higher self,
the spirit aspect of us, it's it's where all the
true power is. It's where patience and kindness and goodness
and understanding and wisdom and truth. It's all located at
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this deeper place, and it can really help us to
transform our patterns. And because it's so unconditional loving, it's
pure unconditional loving. There can be no judgment. There's no
good or bad, or right or wrong coming from that place.
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It's of course you did that, you didn't know better,
What did you learn? Right? That's the that's the voice
of the Holy Spirit. But when our soul, like you're
having this relationship too, like your soul and this higher
you know, higher consciousness or uh spirit, the soul and
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the spirit or the ego and the higher power, it's
all the same thing. If let's say for a while
that the spirit's saying, you know, it's not in your
best interest, it's not beneficial, it's not a judgment for
you to continue behaving this way. And it may even
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give you tools like or it might you know, you
might have a synchronistic a moment where somebody comes into
your life and is ready to be your teacher to
take you to that next step. And if you don't
follow it, if you're if you're not willing to really
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follow the promptings of the spirit, there's a there's a
real sadness that ends up being in our soul or
in our spirit, whatever it's the mix when there's this
tug like come this way, no, no, no, no, no, I'm
afraid I'm going to have to change, like I don't
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want to very rebellious, our soul very resistant. And as
the whole spiritual teaching in all of the big spiritual
texts is you have to surrender that part as you know,
surrender ego to higher power, surrender your soul to your spirit.
So yeah, I don't know really where it's coming from
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to tell you the truth that it's there is a
Bible versus the Bible, and it does say that the
Holy Spirit grieves for you when you're unwilling to follow
because it knows what's best and then you go the
other way.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah yeah, And I was going to say it also
kicks you in the butt too, damn. So yeah, yeah,
Well we need to take a little bit of a
break and when we come back, I'm going to ask
Tanya about emotions. I found out something very interesting that
there's I think you said, fifty four different emotions. So
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we'll talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
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I'm talking to Tanya d and this is an amazing
conversation and we were talking about spirit and soul and
all kinds of things that I want you to talk about.
We has got a wonderful message. Thank you, Bruce. I
want you to talk a little bit about emotions. You
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have created a deck of cards to help people to
recognize their emotions, and I know that that's one of
the most difficult things that people go through in their journey.
I think a lot of it is because we're not
really taught about our emotions. Some of some people had
parents that said, oh, don't feel that way, or oh
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you're so silly when you cry, or look at the
bright side, whatever. It is the message that we've received
really starts suppressing those natural, important emotions that we need
to feel. So tell us a little bit about how
you feel about emotion, how you feel about emotions, and
then share your card deck that you developed.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Oh my goodness, it's such a big topic for thank goodness,
Like emotional intelligence is like this topic these days. And
you know, there's a lot of questions like does the
thought come before the emotion or does the emotion we
become for the thought. And I'm not sure if it
really matters, but for sure, we all have emotion, and
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I was not. I came from one of those families.
We were not a family that ever expressed emotion. So
I when I got into therapy in my thirties, they'd
asked me what I was feeling, I'm like, good, bad.
You know, it was very interesting, overwhelmed, you know it
was it was very like I didn't have the vocabulary.
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So I started to just really dive deep into what
emotions are. And once I developed for myself even this
little deck of cards that really came from my soul's history.
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So I believe that everything is stored in our soul
from the time we're born all of our experiences, all
of our memories, all of our emotions, and these form
our beliefs, like our fears and our limited beliefs all
come from that experience, those experiences in our soul, and
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they're stored in there. And now they're saying, you know,
scientific and actually science can prove that emotions are energetic quality,
and they can kind of cause havoc inside of our body. Right,
they can lead to disease and depression and anxiety. We
know that, and so it becomes uber important to be
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able to identify what you're feeling. And when you identify
a feeling, it's already halfway to being released. It's takes
the energetic quality and just makes it a little bit lighter.
So what I noticed is for me, what I what
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I ended up doing, is I developed these cards called
I have decks, emotional clarity cards. The tea is this
is my deck, so I don't hand it out to people.
But this one's for men, and I have one for groups,
so that has both the male and the female on it,
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and I have one just for women and they have
this is an example of a card in the group card.
Let's say you're having a feeling. You sit down, you
start to go through the deck of cards, and you realize, yeah,
that kind of looks like what I'm feeling and sounds
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like yeah, I kind of feel abandoned, but you still
don't really know. Maybe it's abandonment. And then at the
very top of the card it'll say more synonyms for abandoned, deserted, rejected, discarded,
cast decide, and you start thinking, oh, yeah, yep, that's
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how I'm feeling, and the opposite is loved and valued,
supported and wanted. Oh yeah, I'm not feeling like that.
And then like bingo, you're like, oh, I feel abandoned. Boom,
and all of a sudden, your soul seeing your soul
is your emotions are coming from our soul is valued,
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is seen, is heard. Our emotions are just expresses, expressions
of how we are experiencing life. Every little bit of life.
Someone comes along and you know, makes you.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Angry, and a lot of us, just like females like
I'm not going to say anything, you know, we you know,
we got this like inner anger now inside of us,
just causing this.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Hammock a havoc, and really one thing we do once
we identify like oh, my gosh, I'm feeling angry. Immediately
your soul just goes like thank you, you see me.
And a lot of times I have cards in my
debt that explain how to either assess the emotion by yourself.
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There's little steps to process that by yourself, and it
kind of says, fill in the blanks here I am
feeling blank. I have compassion, I can show myself kindness
I need, or like with if you're in a group,
how you express your feelings, or if you're with a
partner and you need to express your feelings, and that's
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kind of taking it the next step. A lot of
times you can resolve the emotional you know that that
feeling that you have, I feel emotional just by saying,
you know, I feel I feel betrayed that person. I
just felt like that person betrayed me. And that's all
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you need to do, because it's like, oh, okay, I
feel betrayed, you feel seen, and the feeling just kind
of is now discharged. But the next step that is
very helpful too. If you hear this from your higher
spirit or or whatever, the voice of wisdom, I think
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you should tell that person this because communication is what
creates relationship, and without communication, we have no relationship. And
without honesty, there's no vulnerability, there's no trust. So you're
developing self trust just by saying, oh, I know what
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I'm feeling. All of a sudden, you can start trusting
yourself in every situation because you know what you're feeling
after that situation, and then you share it with somebody.
I have steps. It's always sharing from your heart. It's
always sharing in a loving way. It's never accusatory. It's
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I feel betrayed. You know when you did this. I
felt betrayed. And people receive that so much better when
it's like, oh, they can see like you're hurting versus
you did this and you know I didn't like it. Whatever.
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It's like when you start accusing you you you, people
get defensive right away. So you know, I think that
for things like eating disorders especially, and things that are
kind of real self abusive, one of the main keys
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is identifying the feeling and having a sort of communication.
Not passive communication or aggressive communication. It's just very gentle
assert of communication. And you start to do that just
with yourself. I feel betrayed. That's my truth, and that's it.
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Like that that is self trust right there, and it's
it's just so important to develop that I know who
I am and these these things like an eating disorder
where there's so much control of things and substance used
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to like I'm feeling super Let's say I'm feeling really abused.
I'm in this relationship. I feel abused, but I can't
I can't say I feel abused because I have fears
or whatever. But you say to yourself, I feel abused,
and that's the first step, and then you can tell,
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like a trusted friend, I feel abused, and it begins
to take you into your soul's journey. This is this
is why pain is shouldn't really you shouldn't be looked
at as negative feelings. They're negative because they have a
negative charge in our body. But all feelings will lead
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us to a place of healing if we allow it.
And so we end up getting sometimes the triggering, like
we get triggered I feel abused, and it's really strong
in our body. That could be because in our childhood
we felt that same feeling and it's still stored in
our body. Let's say we have this much abuse feeling
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already in our body, and one person does one little
thing that kind of felt the same way as these
other things, and you're like, ah, right, triggered, and so
that's an indication that you need to go within and
heal some past emotion. But it's so it's like, oh, okay,
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I felt abused when this person that I felt betrayed
when my godfather did this. I felt betrayed when my
dad did this. And you get it out of your system,
you begin to feel lighter. Too much emotional storage feels
very heavy and dark, and so you just become lighter
and lighter, and you stay light with the pure and
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open heart. The more you can just kind of like
one emotion comes in, you're like, oh okay, and then
out it goes ye, passing through.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, some fine. That just to kind of add a
little addendum to what you're saying. If I'm feeling abused
in a relationship and I realize I'm able to label
it as abused, and I share it with my partner,
but I share it in a way that says, you know,
when this happened, it triggered my abuse button, and gee,
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I'm seeing that it has nothing to do with you.
It's just that it triggered all all this stuff from
my father and my grandfather and my past lives and
all this stuff. So thank you for showing me that
trigger so that I can heal it and resolve it.
Because otherwise, if you say, oh, I feel abused, that's
going to trigger them and it's not going to get
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too far, you know, it'll just be well I didn't
abuse you. Well yeah you did, you know. Yeah, So
it's important to have a sense of responsibility that this
is my.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Trigger, it has something to do with you. You just
activated it. So yes, exactly, I'm so glad you brought
that up because those like you said, even you know,
past lives and who knows. You know, it's is our
responsibility to heal ourselves. And we have a self healing
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you know, it's self feeling. Somebody had said, you know,
feel the selves, feel everything, and the more we can
get in touch with that, the more we can heal ourselves.
But it is always our responsibility, and this is how
the Yogis teach that process, is that our soul comes
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into this lifetime to learn lessons and every single person
that we run into is part of something we agreed
to before we even came into this world. And it's
biblical too. It says God is forming every steps that
you will take in your womb. So the Yogi's perspective
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is we have to do pre forgiveness to every single
person that hurts us because we invited that situation into
our lives so that our soul can evolve. And what
are we evolving towards? More love? More love to self.
It's the Jesus' greatest commandment, love God, love others, love
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self into more self love. So yeah, I'm glad you
brought that up.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, and it's really about forgiving ourselves for what we
did that is now attracting or choosing a lifetime so
that we can awaken to what we did first to
set it all up. So that's what I teach. Yes,
So we just have a couple more minutes. Why don't
you share about your book and how to get in
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touch with you and everything about yourself.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Thanks Roy, Thanks so much. It's just been great. I
went by way too fast. So my book that I
wrote is how to Meditate with Jesus, Eight Steps to
connect to a Higher Power and be set free. And
it's eight simple steps. I take people through the body,
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the breath, the word, our word that we use our heart,
our spirit, our soul, and a prayer practice where you're
now starting to really talk and listen to this higher power.
And so the chapters are very short, and I did
doodle art throughout my book, and here's the one on
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the spirit, let's see. And then the very back of
the book has a forty day practice. There's something about
practicing something for forty days. So there's a whole journal
in the back of the book that you follow and
try to meditate for a season of your life. I
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just tell people give it a season. It doesn't you
don't have to do it a lifetime. But to be
able to really tap into those inner parts, it just
it requires at least a period of your life. So
my website is Tanya d dot com. Great, and my
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my business name is y'all light y A H L
I G H T y'alllight dot com. Yes, that means
the light of God.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Thank you, Thank you so much. We're running out of
time here, but thank you so much, and keep doing
the amazing work that you're doing. And yeah, follow her
wherever she is. She's on Facebook and LinkedIn and and
sign up for My Awakening Panel discussion August eighth, eight
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eight eight eight August eighth at eight o'clock. So thank
you all for joining us. I will see you next week.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Sounds good.
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the
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origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place
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based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
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life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Royce Morales.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hello, Welcome, very excited today, as always, I have an
amazing guest, and before I even introduce her, I want
to share with everyone about an event that I'm putting on.
It's actually a panel discussion with three other amazing women
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and we're going to talk about. Awakening is something that
in the spiritual realm, everybody seems to talk about it
as one of those buzzwords that do you really know
what it means? And how do you get there? And
what is it really about? And why is it so
scary for people to imagine living an awakened life whatever
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that means. So put on your calendars that August eighth,
eight eight at eight am Pacific time, we're going to
be holding this panel discussion. And if you're interested in enrolling,
I don't even have the link for it yet, but
you can email me at Royce at Roysmarrales dot com.
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That's Royce at Roycemarrales dot com and I will send
you the information as soon as I get it. The
other thing to remind everybody about is my sub stack,
which is called Royce's Ramblings, and I really get into
some deep issues and I bear my soul, tell everybody
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what's been going on for me, and incorporate that into
a positive enlightening message of course, So feel free to
sign up Royce's Ramblings. And something else really exciting, I
was invited to have like a little question answer column
in the Home Times newsletter. So every month I am
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answering questions that people submit to me and feel free
to send those over. You can send them to me
or directly over to Own Times. So that's it for
my pr So let me tell you about my upcoming
guest today. Her name is Tanya Dee and she's a
registered dietitian. There she is. She's a registered dietitian, master
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meditation teacher, life coach, and singer songwriter. If that's not
enough here, and she helps people move through life's those
challenging struggles and transitions like addiction, recovery, disordered eating, codependency, divorce,
and of course even more than that, she uses what
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she calls Christ centered meditation and prayers that she developed
that are scientifically proven and I'll have to ask her
about that. They're tools for achieving clarity, authenticity, and and
she teaches people how to connect with their inner light
or what I refer to as their inner spirit, to
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build emotional and spiritual intelligence rooted in. When people just
don't have personal trust and self awareness, it's really hard,
it's really easy to disconnect from that inner.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Part of us.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So welcome Tanya, Hi Royce, thank you for having me, Oh,
my pleasure. So, first of all, how did you start
doing what you're doing. I read somewhere in your bio
that you're able to connect with people that have gone
through certain things because you've personally gone through them. So
tell us your story. How did you get started?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, my journey of healing actually probably started my spiritual
journey when I was fourteen and my parents divorced, and
it was like a time of coming of age and
I didn't really have anybody to ground myself in because
my family sort of dissolved and disappeared. So I didn't
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even realize it, but I had so much anxiety from
from fourteen to twenty four, and in that period, my
anxiety manifested in an exercise disorder where I exercised over exercised,
which turned into an eating disorder and codependency substance used.
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So early in my life, I was dealing with levels
of pain and not coping with these higher consciousness ways
of dealing with pain because I had no idea. And
I think that that's how most of us, a lot
of us on the spiritual journey or on our life journey,
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end up, you know, just finding things to numb the pain,
abandon ourselves in the process, and so I became a
registered dietitian. That was my journey through college trying to
figure out, like why am I eating like this? What
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are these habits that I cannot control? So that was
kind of the first layer was become a science major
registered dietitian, learning all about the body. And then from
there I at about twenty four I had a spiritual
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awakening where I accepted Jesus into my heart and things
really shifted for me, like my mind really had a
whole different journey after that. So this is where spirituality
higher like this higher power started coming in. And then
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when I'm just telling you my layers, and then at forty,
I went through a divorce and my ex husband and
I had gotten into psychotherapy together, and I'd say that
that was another layer of learning my psychological self, like
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these deeper patterns inside of me. And then the final
layer came when my anxiety disorder really magnified itself after
my divorce and my doctor said, well, you can take
this medication or you can learn to meditate, being.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Her wise doctor, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was so lucky. And I, of course, being holistic
and a dietitian and health oriented. I said, I'm going
to learn how to meditate, and that sent me into
it a ten year, like six hundred hour training in
Kundalini yoga, which is a yoga that's primarily meant to
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take us into deeper states of meditation. And it was
really in these deeper states of meditation where I all
sort of pulled together, like all these life experiences, the
history that I had had, and I really connected because
in Kundalini yoga you have to get up four thirty
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in the morning and you have to you're chanting and
you're meditating for two hours every morning for like forever
as you like. And that's where I connected. You know,
you call it an intuitive wisdom. I've read that in
your in your readings, and that I connected to what
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spiritually is called the Holy Spirit or this wisdom that
just lives here. And that started telling me my life path.
So you're going to write a book, You're gonna This
was the hardest one for me, is you're going to
become a devotional chant. I want you to. I want
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you to make devotional champ music. And I'm a dietitian
with anxiety and I did that, and now I have
like three albums, one album on the Way of Devotional
champ music that's all in English. So like long story short,
it's really my healing journey and this has happened like
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I'm going to turn sixty three next year, and so
this was from fourteen to who I am now. And
along the way, I was helping women who have eating
disorders and then I was helping codependency. So I've been
helping primarily women my whole journey, and I still do that.
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That's what I'm specialized in, just holding groups of women
and I teach classes stuff like that. So that was
a very long story. But from that story things became
very clear, like not so complicated. So now I can
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look back and help people, I think, in a pretty
easy way how to follow this path of transformation because
it can be so difficult overwhelming, and I try to
simplify it and give like you like in my bio,
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I have like I actually teach some life skills and
you talk about that a lot. So yes, that's my journey.
It's been a long one, like we all have, right hopefully.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I'm just curious and so many people have taken
my course that find it difficult to blend religion and spirituality,
and yet it sounded like it just sort of happened
for you. Naturally you accepted Jesus and then you went
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into Cundalini. I mean, how did you bridge the two?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think that I once I became a Christian, a
follower of Christ, that's what I am. I love the
teachings of Jesus. So it's not about religion. It's about
a felt experience of this presence inside of me. Once
I found that, and then I got into Kundalini yoga.
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It's interesting because a lot of religion or religious texts
tend to be kind of intellectual, except for maybe, you know,
singing hymns. But the Kundalini yoga really takes you in
your going in work. And I studied not only the
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Bible for so long, but I started studying all the
Eastern texts potentially, and the Supra like Yogo, Sutras, like
all of this stuff, and I just kept seeing this, like,
you know, they might say it in a different way.
There's there's different languages, and even a program like the
Twelve Steps has different languaging. But the process all seems
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to be the same for like almost everyone around the world.
And so that's and it is still kind of hard
I get. You know, the real conservative Christians might call
me new age, and I say, no, I'm a new
wine skin, which Jesus said, I came to pour new
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teachings into new wine skins. So it's we're allowed to
teach like in a new way for the new generation.
And the young people love the teachings that I do
because a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Of them do yoga, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So or meditation. So I just feel like, you know,
God's been around since the beginning of the earth or
the creator, whatever you want to use as the word.
And you know, Jesus came two thousand years ago, but
before that, the teachings, God's been trying to reach us,
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to get us to do these things forever. So for me,
it's it's pretty clear that inclusivity can only help us.
And these practices that may be from a different religion
or aboriginal tribe, you know, drumming or something right really
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stirs the spirit inside of us and can really heal
our souls. So I I really just and that's Jesus too.
He's all about inclusivity and social justice. So I just
like to be as much like Jesus as I can.
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And that's what you've said this too. You know, love
your neighbor. You know, love your neighbor, and and that
requires self love. Yes, that's the hardest part.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I'm stuck on that word wine skin. What does
that mean?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
You've never heard that In the Bible. There's a scene
where Jesus is talking about like the carrier of wine.
They used to carry it like a boda bag, right,
And these bags would get old and they would call
it an old wine skin, and the wine inside of
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it would go bad. It was like it was too old.
And so Jesus comes and he says, I'm here to
pour my teachings into new wine skins. Skins. He's talking
about people who are open and receptive to hear his
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teaching and be able to make it their own in
a new and unique way. Like Jesus knows, we all
are going to take whatever teaching we have, it could
be even from Buddha, and we're going to express it
through our soul because all of our soul's experiences are
so different, and we're going to express it in a
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unique way. And you know, that's what that's what I do.
It's unique. You know, I'm saying, you can meditate, and
when you learn to meditate, you're going to find God.
It's right here, right, and you're going to find Jesus.
So or you can if you understand the concepts. So yeah,
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I just I just love that, you know, new Age,
old age, it's it's it's so, I don't know, it
just puts like a judgment and wherever you put judgment
creates separation. And I don't think Jesus would ever want
people to be saying like your teaching is like new age,
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like with a bad connotation. Yeah, so I say to
a lot of those people, well, you must just be
from the old Age. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So okay, so that that helps. So what are the
techniques that you use? Uh, you say that some of
these things are scientifically proven? Tell us a little bit
more about that.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I love, love, love science. My dad was a science teacher,
and I'm science major, and whenever I can kind of
blend science and spirituality, to me, it feels like doubly
more empowering. So the science behind a lot of the
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stuff that I do comes from let's say, meditation, right,
I mean scientifically. Meditation now has just been proven to
have like the long list of benefits, right, stress reduction,
Inner Pece lowers anxiety, can help depression, like meditation gives
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you a higher awareness of things, mindfulness, just so many benefits.
So that's scientifically proven. And you know, spiritually it says
like in the Bible or other texts like be still,
be silent, you know, go within, It says all the
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same thing things and it even says I meditate a
lot in the Bible. And you know, meditation is this
practice where we're becoming self aware. And you know, your
question at the very beginning is how do we transform pain?
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And we have to be very very self aware to
do that, and meditation, for me, it's not it's the
path leads to greater and greater levels of self love.
So you know, scientifically proven. All the Kundalini yoga is
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totally scientifically proven. The the gurus you know that created
this yoga, they're all like PhDs, and you know, it's
amazing the education that these people have and their backgrounds.
And you know, the breath alone, the power of our breath,
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and that's all scientifically proven. When we breathe a certain
way it releases either a stress chemical and our down
through our body or a relaxation. We can totally change
how we're experiencing life just through our breath. So like
breath work and is so important, and that's also like biblically,
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the breath is the spirit. The breath is God's spirit.
God breathed into us the breath of life, and we
became a human being. So our breath and then there's
all these references to breath is God's spirit. It's very powerful,
it's creative, it's inspirational, it creates inspiration. So like the
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science and the spirituality on a lot of levels are
really saying we have tools that we can use, and
we have tools once we really start focusing on who
we are as a human being, how supernaturally we are
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created to be. It's amazing the few things that we
can do that are kind of easy for us, right, Like,
like what, Okay, So I'm going to say there's there's
a lot you know, there's grounding, there's being in nature,
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there's of course there's nutrition and movement, you know, whether
it's stance or whatever. But I really want to with
you explain something that is so important. I feel like
it's my Probably my main gift for my teaching is
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you know, you tell oh so many people, you and
everybody talking about the true self, self development, self love,
self awareness. So this word right comes up a lot
self and knowing. So the biggest tool I think we
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can have is knowing our true self. But that word
is so diluted, and everybody has their own definition. And
what I have found through reading the scriptural texts and
practicing meditation for so long, is this truth for me
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is that our self, our true self, has three parts.
So I don't know if you've heard this. A lot
of people say body, mind, spirit, body this, but I
always feel like one part's left out. So I found
for in my teaching, the Bible has it the clearest.
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It says we're a human being, we live in a body.
We all have a unique soul that's the next layer,
and then we are a spirit that's the most inner layer.
And our human spirit was given to us so we
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could connect to God's spirit. So when we do this
like awareness of these parts and we know we can
connect to this higher spirit, God, the universe, the Indra's net,
you know, whatever you want to call it, there is
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a power right that's in everything. It's alive and created.
So this is this is the practice for me. I
want to get into this early. We're going to have
pain coming from all three of these parts. We have pain,
bodily pains. You know. I started swimming and again I
(23:20):
hadn't swimm in a long time, and I got this
pain here. It's just a bodily pain, right, and I'm
aware of that pain in my body. And if we
go into that next layer, our soul and our soul.
To me, the soul is the same word as the self,
So it's soul love, self love, soul awareness, self awareness,
(23:45):
it's all of its soul esteem, you know, soul sabotage.
Our soul is where we're going to find all this
sabotaging going on. And our soul includes our mind, so
all of our thoughts are in our soul. Our emotions,
Our emotions come from our soul. Our emotions tell us
(24:08):
what our soul is experiencing in this daily life. And
the third aspect of the soul is our desires, like
our free will saying I want this, I don't want this,
you know, making these choices. So this is what makes
our soul like it's so powerful, right, you can see that.
(24:32):
So we've got a body very powerful, all these systems, lymphatic, circulatory, sensory.
And then we have this next layer, our soul, so powerful.
And this is where self sabotage comes from. This is
where self awareness has to come from. Awareness of our thoughts,
awareness of our feelings, and aware of what we desire
(24:56):
in life. I want another cup of coffee. That's just
coming from that desire. I hunger for a relationship that's
coming from that part of us, our free will, our desire.
So we have this like body, our body, our soul
is the next layer. And then we have this deeper
(25:19):
part that's the spirit. Can be aware of all of
these parts and it's the higher power. And pain comes
from all three parts. So we can see that. Now
pain comes from our body. Pain clearly comes from our soul,
our thoughts. I'm in pain, our emotions, I feel sad,
(25:43):
I feel angry, like a lot of pain in our emotions,
and our spirit actually can be grieving as well if
we are not aligning with our values. So if we
have certain values, like I know I can't drink a
(26:05):
lot of alcohol very little, but when I try and
I know I can't I'm not aligned with my values.
Or if I do anything that's not aligned with what
my spirit knows is the highest and best good for me,
it griefs. So you wake up in the next morning
(26:28):
and you'll feel sad. So we have these three parts
that we have to always sort of be internally looking
at and being self aware. So this is the whole
picture of like everybody's talking about, you know, awakening, Like
(26:48):
you were talking about you're going to hold your event.
What are we awakening to? We're really awakening to this
amazing thing that we are, you know, body, soul, spirit
connected to this higher power. And so we're a human
and we have divinity inside of us, creativity inside of us.
(27:13):
When we connect all the parts, and all the parts
are kind of working all together. This one's helping this one,
this one's helping this one. In our own little body here,
lot's going on. And that's why meditation is super helpful,
even just for a season, to just observe all of
this going on in our body, and you can start
to go, oh, that's hello. You sit down in the
(27:35):
morning and your soul will be the first thing to
come up, your thoughts you know, I'm trying to solve
this problem. You know, your thoughts, our mind is never
going to stop thinking. So people get that wrong in meditation,
like just stop thinking, never going to happen, because that's
(27:56):
the purpose of our mind. And then we you know thing,
you tap into a feeling. I'm feeling sad this morning,
you know, so your soul comes forward and you really
begin to it's not an intellectual truth that we're multi dimensional,
it's experiential. And then that's when the whole thing starts
to get ignited, like, oh, and I actually have some
(28:18):
control over this thing that I am. So that was
kind of like you said, it was okay for me
to be long winded. But that is how I make
a meditation practice very accessible to people, because people say,
(28:38):
I don't know how to meditate, it's too hard. I
sit down and all I do is think is not
just thinking. You're feeling and you're desiring, because you'll sit
down and you'll want that other cup of coffee, or
you'll want to not be there, or you'll want like
the window open or something. So all of these parts
(29:01):
of the soul come forward right away, and it's the idea,
is the spirit is the witness. Our spirit connected to
God's spirit is light. It's a lamp. It's supposed to shine.
There's a Bible verse that says the human the spirit
of man is the lamp of the Lord, shining on
(29:24):
all of our inner parts. So it shines on our
thoughts and our emotions and our desires, and it makes
it makes us aware of them, and then we have
we can do something about it. So I just really
believe that it's the It's like that inner makeover that
(29:45):
you talk about, right, You have to you have to
be able to go inside and you have to be
understanding your soul and having compassion for whatever it is
that your mind's trying to solve that problem or analyze
this thing or what everything you're feeling. You know, you've
(30:09):
got to say, oh, I see you, I hear you,
I value you. And that's that's the key to getting
over the addictions, the codependency, the substance use, because all
of that stuff says to our soul, I don't want
(30:31):
to see you, right, I'm not going to value you.
As a matter of fact, I might even abuse you.
I'm going to drink too much, I'm going to take
these drugs to get you to be quiet. We're always
trying to do that, are we. Yeah, And it's the
(30:52):
complete opposite. You're like, wow, my mind is really ruminating
on this thing. What is it that it's trying to solve?
And we start to look at our soul is something
that's so valuable to us. It's guiding us along the way,
it's telling us solve this issue, take one step forward
(31:16):
in this area, you know. And then if you get
really deep and you find that like intuitive wisdom, your
mind's struggling here and the intuitive wisdom will tell you
what to do. So it's all happening. It's all happening
right here. But you have to we have to take
this the season of I used to abandon myself. I
(31:44):
used to betray myself like a lot. I used to
be true, you know, abuse myself actually, And I'm not
going to do that anymore. I'm going to value my
soul self, love soul, Love to love my soul no
matter what comes up. Okay, that's me, that's today, that's truth.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yea. So before we take a break, I have to
ask this because this is something that I talk a
lot about in my courses. I call it the higher Self,
but you're referring to it as the spirit. So either
one either word is accurate. The higher self or the
Spirit doesn't judge in the same way that our soul
(32:35):
or our inner self does because it sees the bigger picture.
It sees the perfection of what it is that you're
going through, or what it is that you're even doing
to yourself or your entire life. Sees the bigger picture
and it says, well, okay, I get it. You had
to abuse yourself when you were twenty years old. Okay,
(32:55):
so what did you learn from that, what did you
clean up from that? What did you do in terms
of awakening from that? But it doesn't You said that
it grievest. I don't believe that it grieves. I believe says, yeah,
that was perfect, Okay, what do we need to get
from that? What are your feelings about that?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I think, of course you're absolutely right. Like the higher self,
the spirit aspect of us, it's it's where all the
true power is. It's where patience and kindness and goodness
and understanding and wisdom and truth. It's all located at
(33:43):
this deeper place, and it can really help us to
transform our patterns. And because it's so unconditional loving, it's
pure unconditional loving. There can be no judgment. There's no
good or bad, or right or wrong coming from that place.
(34:03):
It's of course you did that, you didn't know better,
What did you learn? Right? That's the that's the voice
of the Holy Spirit. But when our soul, like you're
having this relationship too, like your soul and this higher
you know, higher consciousness or uh spirit, the soul and
(34:24):
the spirit or the ego and the higher power, it's
all the same thing. If let's say for a while
that the spirit's saying, you know, it's not in your
best interest, it's not beneficial, it's not a judgment for
you to continue behaving this way. And it may even
(34:47):
give you tools like or it might you know, you
might have a synchronistic a moment where somebody comes into
your life and is ready to be your teacher to
take you to that next step. And if you don't
follow it, if you're if you're not willing to really
(35:07):
follow the promptings of the spirit, there's a there's a
real sadness that ends up being in our soul or
in our spirit, whatever it's the mix when there's this
tug like come this way, no, no, no, no, no, I'm
afraid I'm going to have to change, like I don't
(35:28):
want to very rebellious, our soul very resistant. And as
the whole spiritual teaching in all of the big spiritual
texts is you have to surrender that part as you know,
surrender ego to higher power, surrender your soul to your spirit.
So yeah, I don't know really where it's coming from
(35:52):
to tell you the truth that it's there is a
Bible versus the Bible, and it does say that the
Holy Spirit grieves for you when you're unwilling to follow
because it knows what's best and then you go the
other way.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah yeah, And I was going to say it also
kicks you in the butt too, damn. So yeah, yeah,
Well we need to take a little bit of a
break and when we come back, I'm going to ask
Tanya about emotions. I found out something very interesting that
there's I think you said, fifty four different emotions. So
(36:30):
we'll talk about that a little bit.
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Speaker 2 (39:03):
I'm talking to Tanya d and this is an amazing
conversation and we were talking about spirit and soul and
all kinds of things that I want you to talk about.
We has got a wonderful message. Thank you, Bruce. I
want you to talk a little bit about emotions. You
(39:26):
have created a deck of cards to help people to
recognize their emotions, and I know that that's one of
the most difficult things that people go through in their journey.
I think a lot of it is because we're not
really taught about our emotions. Some of some people had
parents that said, oh, don't feel that way, or oh
(39:48):
you're so silly when you cry, or look at the
bright side, whatever. It is the message that we've received
really starts suppressing those natural, important emotions that we need
to feel. So tell us a little bit about how
you feel about emotion, how you feel about emotions, and
then share your card deck that you developed.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Oh my goodness, it's such a big topic for thank goodness,
Like emotional intelligence is like this topic these days. And
you know, there's a lot of questions like does the
thought come before the emotion or does the emotion we
become for the thought. And I'm not sure if it
really matters, but for sure, we all have emotion, and
(40:36):
I was not. I came from one of those families.
We were not a family that ever expressed emotion. So
I when I got into therapy in my thirties, they'd
asked me what I was feeling, I'm like, good, bad.
You know, it was very interesting, overwhelmed, you know it
was it was very like I didn't have the vocabulary.
(40:58):
So I started to just really dive deep into what
emotions are. And once I developed for myself even this
little deck of cards that really came from my soul's history.
(41:19):
So I believe that everything is stored in our soul
from the time we're born all of our experiences, all
of our memories, all of our emotions, and these form
our beliefs, like our fears and our limited beliefs all
come from that experience, those experiences in our soul, and
(41:44):
they're stored in there. And now they're saying, you know,
scientific and actually science can prove that emotions are energetic quality,
and they can kind of cause havoc inside of our body. Right,
they can lead to disease and depression and anxiety. We
know that, and so it becomes uber important to be
(42:10):
able to identify what you're feeling. And when you identify
a feeling, it's already halfway to being released. It's takes
the energetic quality and just makes it a little bit lighter.
So what I noticed is for me, what I what
(42:35):
I ended up doing, is I developed these cards called
I have decks, emotional clarity cards. The tea is this
is my deck, so I don't hand it out to people.
But this one's for men, and I have one for groups,
so that has both the male and the female on it,
(42:57):
and I have one just for women and they have
this is an example of a card in the group card.
Let's say you're having a feeling. You sit down, you
start to go through the deck of cards, and you realize, yeah,
that kind of looks like what I'm feeling and sounds
(43:19):
like yeah, I kind of feel abandoned, but you still
don't really know. Maybe it's abandonment. And then at the
very top of the card it'll say more synonyms for abandoned, deserted, rejected, discarded,
cast decide, and you start thinking, oh, yeah, yep, that's
(43:41):
how I'm feeling, and the opposite is loved and valued,
supported and wanted. Oh yeah, I'm not feeling like that.
And then like bingo, you're like, oh, I feel abandoned. Boom,
and all of a sudden, your soul seeing your soul
is your emotions are coming from our soul is valued,
(44:03):
is seen, is heard. Our emotions are just expresses, expressions
of how we are experiencing life. Every little bit of life.
Someone comes along and you know, makes you.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Angry, and a lot of us, just like females like
I'm not going to say anything, you know, we you know,
we got this like inner anger now inside of us,
just causing this.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Hammock a havoc, and really one thing we do once
we identify like oh, my gosh, I'm feeling angry. Immediately
your soul just goes like thank you, you see me.
And a lot of times I have cards in my
debt that explain how to either assess the emotion by yourself.
(45:03):
There's little steps to process that by yourself, and it
kind of says, fill in the blanks here I am
feeling blank. I have compassion, I can show myself kindness
I need, or like with if you're in a group,
how you express your feelings, or if you're with a
partner and you need to express your feelings, and that's
(45:27):
kind of taking it the next step. A lot of
times you can resolve the emotional you know that that
feeling that you have, I feel emotional just by saying,
you know, I feel I feel betrayed that person. I
just felt like that person betrayed me. And that's all
(45:50):
you need to do, because it's like, oh, okay, I
feel betrayed, you feel seen, and the feeling just kind
of is now discharged. But the next step that is
very helpful too. If you hear this from your higher
spirit or or whatever, the voice of wisdom, I think
(46:10):
you should tell that person this because communication is what
creates relationship, and without communication, we have no relationship. And
without honesty, there's no vulnerability, there's no trust. So you're
developing self trust just by saying, oh, I know what
(46:33):
I'm feeling. All of a sudden, you can start trusting
yourself in every situation because you know what you're feeling
after that situation, and then you share it with somebody.
I have steps. It's always sharing from your heart. It's
always sharing in a loving way. It's never accusatory. It's
(46:54):
I feel betrayed. You know when you did this. I
felt betrayed. And people receive that so much better when
it's like, oh, they can see like you're hurting versus
you did this and you know I didn't like it. Whatever.
(47:17):
It's like when you start accusing you you you, people
get defensive right away. So you know, I think that
for things like eating disorders especially, and things that are
kind of real self abusive, one of the main keys
(47:39):
is identifying the feeling and having a sort of communication.
Not passive communication or aggressive communication. It's just very gentle
assert of communication. And you start to do that just
with yourself. I feel betrayed. That's my truth, and that's it.
(48:02):
Like that that is self trust right there, and it's
it's just so important to develop that I know who
I am and these these things like an eating disorder
where there's so much control of things and substance used
(48:23):
to like I'm feeling super Let's say I'm feeling really abused.
I'm in this relationship. I feel abused, but I can't
I can't say I feel abused because I have fears
or whatever. But you say to yourself, I feel abused,
and that's the first step, and then you can tell,
(48:45):
like a trusted friend, I feel abused, and it begins
to take you into your soul's journey. This is this
is why pain is shouldn't really you shouldn't be looked
at as negative feelings. They're negative because they have a
negative charge in our body. But all feelings will lead
(49:10):
us to a place of healing if we allow it.
And so we end up getting sometimes the triggering, like
we get triggered I feel abused, and it's really strong
in our body. That could be because in our childhood
we felt that same feeling and it's still stored in
our body. Let's say we have this much abuse feeling
(49:33):
already in our body, and one person does one little
thing that kind of felt the same way as these
other things, and you're like, ah, right, triggered, and so
that's an indication that you need to go within and
heal some past emotion. But it's so it's like, oh, okay,
(49:58):
I felt abused when this person that I felt betrayed
when my godfather did this. I felt betrayed when my
dad did this. And you get it out of your system,
you begin to feel lighter. Too much emotional storage feels
very heavy and dark, and so you just become lighter
and lighter, and you stay light with the pure and
(50:21):
open heart. The more you can just kind of like
one emotion comes in, you're like, oh okay, and then
out it goes ye, passing through.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, some fine. That just to kind of add a
little addendum to what you're saying. If I'm feeling abused
in a relationship and I realize I'm able to label
it as abused, and I share it with my partner,
but I share it in a way that says, you know,
when this happened, it triggered my abuse button, and gee,
(50:55):
I'm seeing that it has nothing to do with you.
It's just that it triggered all all this stuff from
my father and my grandfather and my past lives and
all this stuff. So thank you for showing me that
trigger so that I can heal it and resolve it.
Because otherwise, if you say, oh, I feel abused, that's
going to trigger them and it's not going to get
(51:17):
too far, you know, it'll just be well I didn't
abuse you. Well yeah you did, you know. Yeah, So
it's important to have a sense of responsibility that this
is my.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Trigger, it has something to do with you. You just
activated it. So yes, exactly, I'm so glad you brought
that up because those like you said, even you know,
past lives and who knows. You know, it's is our
responsibility to heal ourselves. And we have a self healing
(51:50):
you know, it's self feeling. Somebody had said, you know,
feel the selves, feel everything, and the more we can
get in touch with that, the more we can heal ourselves.
But it is always our responsibility, and this is how
the Yogis teach that process, is that our soul comes
(52:10):
into this lifetime to learn lessons and every single person
that we run into is part of something we agreed
to before we even came into this world. And it's
biblical too. It says God is forming every steps that
you will take in your womb. So the Yogi's perspective
(52:35):
is we have to do pre forgiveness to every single
person that hurts us because we invited that situation into
our lives so that our soul can evolve. And what
are we evolving towards? More love? More love to self.
It's the Jesus' greatest commandment, love God, love others, love
(52:58):
self into more self love. So yeah, I'm glad you
brought that up.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, and it's really about forgiving ourselves for what we
did that is now attracting or choosing a lifetime so
that we can awaken to what we did first to
set it all up. So that's what I teach. Yes,
So we just have a couple more minutes. Why don't
you share about your book and how to get in
(53:26):
touch with you and everything about yourself.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Thanks Roy, Thanks so much. It's just been great. I
went by way too fast. So my book that I
wrote is how to Meditate with Jesus, Eight Steps to
connect to a Higher Power and be set free. And
it's eight simple steps. I take people through the body,
(53:54):
the breath, the word, our word that we use our heart,
our spirit, our soul, and a prayer practice where you're
now starting to really talk and listen to this higher power.
And so the chapters are very short, and I did
doodle art throughout my book, and here's the one on
(54:19):
the spirit, let's see. And then the very back of
the book has a forty day practice. There's something about
practicing something for forty days. So there's a whole journal
in the back of the book that you follow and
try to meditate for a season of your life. I
(54:40):
just tell people give it a season. It doesn't you
don't have to do it a lifetime. But to be
able to really tap into those inner parts, it just
it requires at least a period of your life. So
my website is Tanya d dot com. Great, and my
(55:02):
my business name is y'all light y A H L
I G H T y'alllight dot com. Yes, that means
the light of God.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Thank you, Thank you so much. We're running out of
time here, but thank you so much, and keep doing
the amazing work that you're doing. And yeah, follow her
wherever she is. She's on Facebook and LinkedIn and and
sign up for My Awakening Panel discussion August eighth, eight
(55:39):
eight eight eight August eighth at eight o'clock. So thank
you all for joining us. I will see you next week.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Sounds good.
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