author of 21 books, speaker and holistic counselor-Dr Evette Rose

Hi, I’m Dr. Evette Rose — author, speaker, trauma recovery expert, and the creator of Metaphysical Anatomy™ and Metapsychology Coaching™ But before all that, I was a young woman silently carrying the pain of childhood trauma, living in a constant state of survival. I grew up in a war zone — not just politically, but emotionally. My home was ruled by a chaotic, drug addicted father who was also a clinically diagnosed sociopath. I didn’t just learn how to suppress emotions — I mastered it. Like so many people, I got good at “coping,” until my body started screaming what my words couldn’t say. I thought I was listening to my body, however, it needed me to listen to it in a completely different way. After overcoming stress cardiomyopathy and neck pain so severe that I could barely move. It made no medical sense. X-rays were clear. Nothing was “wrong.” But everything in me was breaking. That pain was the turning point. It led me on a journey to decode the hidden emotional messages behind physical symptoms — in myself and in thousands of others. Fast-forward to today: I've worked with over 7,000 clients, authored 21 books, and taught trauma-informed healing in more than 43 countries. My best-selling book, Metaphysical Anatomy Volume 1, explores 722 ailments and the emotional root causes behind them — it’s used by practitioners, therapists, and everyday people around the world. I’ve spoken at international medical conferences, developed powerful modalities like the Metaphysical Anatomy Technique™ (MAT) and Metapsychology Coaching, and helped countless people heal emotional pain that had been living in their bodies for years — often decades.

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Episode Transcript

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But anyways, guys, let's get in today's episode. Oh I
have a great one. Thank you so much again, and

(00:49):
as always, say, don't ask your day is ask how
your mental health is?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Today guys, we'll have an exciting episode of Pete for
Anxiety Here in the Oracle Talk for your network. My
guest today is at internationally renowned holistic counselor, trauma expert
and author of twenty one books. You Guys heard that
are right? Twenty one books, including the global bestseller Metaphysical
Anatomy Volume one. Your Body is talking to you? Are
you listening? Please welcome the host of Heal Within with

(01:15):
doctor Avett Rose, the one, the only Doctor Vett Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
How you doing today?

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I am thrilled to be here, Doctor p Thank you
so much for that wonderful introduction. I'm really excited for
to see how this discussion is going to pan out.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Right exactly, So, why don't you tell me a little
bit sho I know you have you have a background
like not tomorrow let me tell you guys like it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Crazy, right, Sue tell me no, you go for it. Sorry,
I had a thought that it's lost.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
It it'll come back, it'll come back.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
So the question was.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
A little bit about yourself, you know how I'll tell
a little bit more about yourself, things that people may
not know that you know obviously, twenty one books, that's
that's an accomplishment it's own. But you have a global bestseller.
I mean, what other stuff did we not know that
we should know?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, I do like deep sea diving, and I did do.
So that's a really great question, and you know, I'm
actually going to answer your question with a plot to its.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
So get this.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I never in my life would have thought that I
would be an author. It was not on the cards,
not even to mention psychology, counseling, person development, absolutely none of.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
It my dream.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
And what I actually studied was to become a crime
scene investigator and.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
To look at the humorous side of it.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Now I'm actually now, you know, because I specialized now
actually in understanding the psychosomatic conditions of the human body,
meaning if a person becomes ill, like as an example,
or not necessarily ill, but say did there's stomach crams,
But there's no medical underlying reason why the person would
have stomach crams, and it's just because of purely st right.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
So this is.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
How our emotions can deeply affect our health and of
course also our mental health. So this is something that
I'm very passionate about. And it's funny because moving from
wanting to become a crime scene investigator. I ended up
becoming a crime scene investigator of the body to see

(03:21):
the impact that emotions can have on our health as
well as even psychosomatic elements. So in a very very
short combust explanation, that is who I am. That's what
I was, and this is where I am now, and
just twenty one books.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
That's I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
It, really you could imagine all these books are big
snippets basically from my diary.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Each book was basically.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
An like a journey of where I fell and bumped
my head along the way and what I learned from
heartbreak and depression and anxiety in all of these things
that I myself have been through, and what I learned
from that, as well as what I learned from my
clients and you know, working with them to resolve these
challenges in their life, and just really truly documenting my

(04:14):
life as I progress, which is really what I did.
And so what I'm best well known for is writing
this big book which is called Beta Physical Anatome, and
this book is about seven hundred and twenty two medical
elements and then the psychosomatic stress of it behind that,
and then of course I have the other one that's
for kids, So this is the psychosomatic of children. They're

(04:36):
both really big books, seven hundred pages each and just documenting, documenting, observing.
I love observing people.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Patterns.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Why did that microexpression just change when I said that?
What was the emotion behind that? What is what is
the reason that emotion is there?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
So the root causes, so really getting into how the
body stores the emotions and dress and how that ends
up showing up, whether it's through mental health challenges, whether
it's through habits, patterns and psychosomatic elements.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing, twenty one of them. But the
twenty one volumes? Is that how you basically set them up?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
To you?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Because it was just like I looked through some of
the list I was checking out something because I was curious,
and it's really interesting because you hit certain topics. Now
did you How did you come up with these topics?
Is it just something you came across You're like, okay, well,
now I could do a volume about this.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
That's a great question.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
So every book is quite frankly a dark Knight of
the soul moment of my life. So I had quite
a few. I had quite a few. Yeah, I had
quite a few and so right down from heartbreak, you know,
with my first divorce, right down to anxiety. I mean
I had extreme severe anxiety, panic attacks. I had what

(05:56):
I would call the Black depression. I went through. You know,
all go through a financial crisis, and so did I
and I ended up having a heart attack from just
absolute sheer stress and just mismanaging my life and then
writing about that and how I, you know, how I
overcame that and how I found my happiness, how I
you know, resolved my boundaries, because boundaries can also be

(06:18):
an incredibly big culprit why we're not living our best life, right,
So every aspect in my life that just ended up
collapsing that that I had to pick up and put
the pieces back together and understand the why, the how,
the ins and the outs, and then applying what I
learned by helping other people with that process as well.

(06:40):
So this is how it all really came together, and
it's it's just yeah, it's it's still to this day,
like I still can't believe I did all this work.
It's and this was well before AI came out as well.
So I mean, these days when someone say says they
claim an author title It's a bit like which find
the authentic one or the AI onan So this was

(07:03):
real typed out and editors and the whole shebang.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So yeah, I don't imagine Jesus seven hundred pages. I mean,
well it can technically think about it. You're only the
seven hundred pages are from your studies and your own
research or things you know, and you can see the
forensics side come into it because you're probably looking at
from a different aspect that most people don't even look
at it from. So I can see where it gets
really interesting quick because you have a different view than
other people, especially with forensics, because you have to look

(07:30):
at everything from a different angle and things.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You have to predict and stuff like that too.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
So I can only imagine people reading this book are like, oh, okay,
this is interesting. But when the day you find out
that you're a global bestseller, I bet you right there,
you fello up. You're like, wait a minute, what, because
that has to be an accomplishment of its home because
you don't you don't get many people that are or
you can feel the international best sellers, but globally like that,
that's something powerful to say right there.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
And what makes it even more fun is that I'm
self published. I'm completely self published, and the books just
went viral all by themselves, all the eighty countries, just
having people contacting me, Hey, I would love to know
work with you were translating it, let us get it
out there more. And of course, you know, I'm the
type of person that says yes. And then I figured

(08:17):
out later it just ended up balling out that way.
And I had no idea that this work was used
in hospitals, in universities, and you know as part of
kinesiology colleges, is part of their curriculums, and you know,
psychiatrist's office, psychologist's office, and just in any person's hands
who just wants to learn more about messages of their body.

(08:40):
And I think when a lot of people ask me,
how is that even possible, Like, I mean, the odds
of doing well as self published, I mean, that's not
that's not easy. And I said, you know, there's so
many people going out there and then trying to reinvent
the wheel again and again and again, and then what

(09:01):
you end up is you're competing. There's nothing really unique
about your message. And so I sat there and I'm
thinking I'm compiling all this information of my students while
I was teaching across the world, my students, because it
was actually a manual. It was a manual to help
my students figure out their challenges and what the messages
were in their body. So and one of them just said,
you know, my goodness of it, you have to this

(09:23):
has to become a book, like this is so incredible,
and I think I just not even then did it
dawn on me, Wow, what a great idea.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
I was just like, Nah, that's not for me. I'm
not an author, right, so I'm a teacher. I like
helping people.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, a lot of ideas take off though people don't
think about the magnitude of how much people need it,
you know, and especially when it comes to any kind
of like products you invent. It's like they always tell
you to figure out the fill and needs somebody needs.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And apparently that was need.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
You didn't even know they even need it at that point,
because when it took off, it was just in the
fact yourself published. I guarantee publishers were looking at this
book going all right, who here dropped the ball?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now, okay, well you're fired.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
So later you know, it's like we just missed out
on some really big title we could have had our
hands on, you know. And it's you know, it makes
sense though, because you don't realize people need it until
they need it, you know. And I like what you
said that, you know, not to be like everybody else,
just to do your own thing, because that's how I
started this show.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
So I went and studied and started looking at different
podcasts to see and everybody's a doctor of some sort,
and I'm just like, well, what's the real conversation of
just an average show asking people questions about things, you know,
and generally going on an interest. And so the beginning
of this thing, it was it's my own self journey basically,
because you watch from the beginning from day one when
I hit record to where I'm now, the conversation style changes,

(10:41):
the information changes by far because everything I learned from
people as I go, you know, I pick up different
things as I go down down the line and things
like that too. And like I was telling you, this
thing has been. This thing's impacted since ever ever since
I started it, and I still I'm all way out
into almost December now booking people. You know, I'm I
had nobody had to slow down because I'm just like,
all right, well, let's let's pull it back a little

(11:01):
bit here. But it's just like, you didn't realize how
many people want to talk about this subject and how
bad they need it, because they're lining up out the
door to come on here. And it's crazy though. It's
like to me, it's just like I've met like everybody.
I've got the NFL players, people are such as highest
established as yourself, international bust sellers and New yr time bestsellers.
I've had all these people in front of me, and
it's it's just been a great time ever since. You know,

(11:23):
I don't think I've ever had any really bad experiences
with it yet. I've heard people had horror stories, but
I'm just like, I have yet to have it, so
I mean, it'll it'll happen eventually. I'm sure you'll run
into somebody where you have friction or something like that.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I even and stop their podcast interviews because they're like, yeah,
I don't think so too well.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I was like, no, I've never heard of that. That's terrible.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I didn't either until someone told me about it.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I'm like, yeah, they had to stop and I was like,
uh really, I was like yeah, because it just wasn't
going to well.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I'm like, okay, I guess that's why they do the
pre recording meet and greet.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Oh no, I go straight in this listen.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I'll be honest with most episodes I don't even prepare
for because I want to keep it as authentic as possible.
Like I'll look as yeah, that person's topic is, and
you know, and a lot of topics I can I
can hit no problem, even even neuroscience was when I
was surprised I had a conversation hour long with somebody.
We're going back and forth an hour long, you know,
and we were having a great conversation and things like
that too. So I mean, speaking of podcasts, you have

(12:23):
your own, when did you start that?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Was that after the book? Or was that prior to
the book?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
That was that you know?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
That was probably about four years ago, so it wasn't
that long ago. Yeah, So it was more more or
less like something where I was where I was looking at, Okay,
now I've done all this stuff, what is next? And
so I don't have a podcast, and I thought, let's
do that.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I can dominate now, Okay, so let me ask in
the beginning, how hard was it? It had to be
rough at first, because I know my experience was at
first it was like I learned everything as I go.
I didn't have anybody to help me. I basically it
foregoated on my own. So a lot of this stuff
I'm learning, I'm sharing it to other podcasters that are starting.

(13:07):
I'm like, hey, listen, these are some things you should
consider if you're going to do this. It's let me
tell you're about to take on a big journey here,
so get ready.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Absolutely, And you were specifically asking about the podcast.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yes, I was asking like, how did you start it?
I mean, it's always interesting everybody's journeys in the beginning,
Like how hard was it in the beginning? Was there
a lot of things to learn or did you have
somebody that could help you along the way.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
So I have to say I learned from the best
to do hosting, which is Market Costello in Los Angeles and.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Her team and everyone.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
So in terms of speaking public speaking and having taught
you know, in well over one hundred and twenty five
plus workshops, public speaking for me is really easy.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
It just comes naturally.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I can sit down, I can have a heart to
heart conversation with a big audience with a small audience,
one person, one on one. So for me and luckily
in in that regard, it flows, it flows really well.
My concept of my idea was also very clear in
terms of what I would like to do, so a
lot of the people that I actually interviewed I would
specifically pick people were that I either had as a

(14:15):
student so I knew them as a person, I had
an understanding of the history and where we can dive
in and what would be good points to tap on
and so forth, or maybe a client, so this has
normally had this at least that's how I started, because
my podcast would be a variety of meditations diving into,
you know, mental health challenges, but predominantly interviewing and talking

(14:38):
to people who had very severe health conditions and they
actually completely dived into their own potential and healed themselves
without medical intervention. So I loved talking to these people.
I love picking their minds apart. What was your mindset like,
what did you need to believe in order to know

(14:59):
that you can overcome this? What was that ultimate decision?
What was your routine? What was your man trust like?
What is everything that you do to help yourself, because
this is something that I would love for other people
to hear as well, who.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Perhaps have had that same journey in their life. To
give hope.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
It's really true, to spread that beautiful message of hope
and to remind people of their human potential, but most
importantly of all the human potential to heal.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I think it's stories like that are just touched people's heart.
And you know, people reacting a lot of times because
they have to hear, you know, the story to human will,
you know, because a lot of people get telling them, no,
you can't do this, you can't do that. We've had
several guests on the show they've done that. One guy
said he was going to be paralyzed, and he said,
all of a sudden, he could start moving his finger,
and then it was his hand, and then his arm.
He can move up and things like that too amazing

(15:51):
and it's so interesting. In another girl, she was wheelchair
bound but she used horses to get out, and her
story was interesting too because a lot of people thought
her she couldn't do anything, and then it showed the
power of the will and she's like, okay, well, you're
telling me I can't, so now let me show you
I can, and kind of thing. And it was it
was always interesting to see because.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's like everyone wants to tell you you can't or
the end they'll be all these things, but it's really not.
And I think that's that's the biggest problem we have
these days, is a lot of people take those thoughts
and negativity and things that people tell them and just
like let it put south in their head and sit
there and prove for no reason exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
And I would love to share something with you also,
and this is to to just really tag on what
you're saying, the power of our thoughts. Because there was
a man who was diagnosed with tumors and his doctor
said to him, and this is the actual documented case,
and his doctor said to him, you have four months
left to live. And you know what, he passed away

(16:49):
three months later, not four months.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Three months later.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
When they did the autopsy, the tumors were benign.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
He died purely because the.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Doctors said, so, here's all my power to you.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's what happened, right.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
So it just shows you the power of our thoughts.
But most importantly of all, who do we trust in
our vulnerable moments as well? Right, we want cheerleaders as doctors.
Of course, if things are serious, if they really truly
is a condition that doesn't look hopeful, you still want

(17:27):
a cheerleader in a way that can uplift you at least. Right,
So this is the diagnosis, but I still believe in you.
Let's give it all that we've got, right, So at
least even just an approach like that, Yeah, can turn
a person's whole world around in a positive way.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I get that too, But it's you know, I think
it's a lot of times these critical conditions, people just
start freaking out about it. You know, like when I
I was diabetic, it was like people made it sound
like it that's it, you're done, there's something else you
can do.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
And I'm like, is it though? Is that really the
case here? You know?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It's what it felt like. Everybody had to get a conversationybody.
That's what it tend to feel like. People are like, oh, yeah,
oh okay, and like you told them that's what you got.
I'm diabetic now, oh okay, like that kind of thing,
and it's like I didn't really need you to do
that to me and say that kind of thing, you know,
And one of my favorite quotes. So he's from a
guy named Jim Ross. He's a wrestling announcer. He said

(18:19):
that when he lost his wife, he was like, I
think he said it best when he said I told
people He's like, listen, I don't want to hear about
your fucking problems. He goes, I just lost my wife.
You know, don't come over here telling me your issues
right now, because I'm doing my own loss, you know,
right now it's all about me, and it may sound selfish,
but it's with me. And it was funny when he
said that because I was like, you know what, He's
actually right though, it's like I don't want to hear

(18:39):
all this crap. Like he's like, I just lost somebody,
Like don't come over here and tell me all your
problems and things like that too. But you know, in
the same aspect, it's like when when that's involved, it's
hard to know what to say to somebody because you know,
you're like you could say, hey, I could be there
for you and these other things, and you're just like,
you know, it's like, no matter what you say, that
person may take it the wrong way just because they're
in a lot of motion right now, they just lost

(19:00):
somebody doin how close they were, it could be amplified too.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Yeah, but this is.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
The power also of what that you know, Just to
take an example what that person said, A lot of
people don't have the self worth or the awareness of
where their limitations are. He really felt his limitation and
he expressed it as best as he could in that
raw moment. But a lot of people don't express that.
They don't say what they need in that moment of

(19:29):
pain and in that moment of distress. And for me,
that that small window of communicating what you need is
so incredibly important to receive number one, the right.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Support and healthy support.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I can't tell you how many people in their lives
are fully supported, but they feel completely unsupported because it's
not the kind of support that they need because no
one asked and they're not communicating. So of course, a
lot of people's language for love is to support, right,
So they just might as they can, but no one
is stopping to take just take a breath and ask

(20:05):
the person what do you really truly need instead of
just assuming right. So I love that people can have
awareness in their in their vulnerable moments, to say what
they need, because that is when you can become the
compassionate witness.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
That is when you can really truly become.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Part of their solution and not someone that that's just
another burden that they have to try to manage and
figure out and guide and all of that.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
So yeah, no, it makes sense. So because it's like you,
that's a real question. It's like, hey, what do you need?
I think that's a question. We all avoid the moment,
so we don't ask people, we assume we know what
they need. And then then these people get upset and
if you don't stop messaging, answering your messages, I mean,
he calls and it's like, well, what did I do wrong?
What did you ask them what they need? Or do
you assume you know what they need?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I think it? Or did you disrespect their boundaries?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Because a lot of times people will tell you like
this is what I need and you just say this
far or things like that too, you know, And I
think boundaries is a big thing that people always say
the same thing as selfish, you're selfish or not so
oh you're so selfish because you say no, no, no, no,
hold up, Hold up, I'm setting my boundaries because these
are what I want, and you're not listening to what
I want.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
So see, this is how coming.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
You're on the outer orbit of this whole thing, and
you know, maybe if you start listening, you may be
able to come back in, you know, but it depends.
It's a situational basis.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
You know, I noticed a lot of time, I love
what you said about boundaries because and then someone getting
triggered when the boundaries are being expressed.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
A lot of the.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Time when someone expresses boundaries, and especially to people who's
used to them not having boundaries, it is normally bound
to tick these people off because these people are used
to having the other person being a certain way that
would create a lot of benefits for them. So suddenly
if this person starts to express boundaries, they lose these

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benefits that they would.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Normally have access to.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
If a person behaves a certain way, right, maybe they
did a lot of things for them, or they would
get a lot of favor or you know, being emotionally
available for them in a certain way to help them
to emotionally regulate, but they don't realize it. So sometimes
people can push a person back when they express boundaries,
to put them back in that old identity because they
have an attachment to that person being a certain way.

(22:16):
And normally this is not happening intentionally, it's completely subconscious.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
But this is often what I would call.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
An emotional survival response rather than an actual instinctive response.
But it's a more emotional survival response, needing someone to
behave a certain way so that they can emotionally survive
or you know, at least get whatever benefit. And on
most cases it's subconscious. It's completely subconscious. But to stay

(22:43):
attached to.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
That, yeah, true, very true.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, because I think you know a lot of people
don't realize they're doing it. But at the same time,
you know, okay, well it's likely from an energy sense, Okay,
because you're holistic and I understand a little bit of
this stuff. So maybe I'm wrong, correct me, or I'm
wrong here, But it could be that the either're putting
out these people don't like you know how they say
you attract the people you want, and you attract the
people you don't want basically essentially, and may not correct

(23:07):
on that one.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
That is normally how it works. However, what actually happens
is there's nothing wrong with the thought that you're creating
to manifest. Say, for example, you would love to have
an ideal partner that's loving and kind, but your childhood
was maybe quite hostile or very disruptive, maybe violent. You

(23:30):
are going to look for people who's going to regulate
your nervous system. We always think that what's going to
regulate our nervous system is something that's safe. Well, if
your foundation of life has been chaotic and dysfunctional or
full of hostile you know, hostile behavior, that is what
your nervous system is used to. So we end up
actually looking for that familiar feeling. And I meanet, how

(23:55):
many times in your life have you felt drawn to
someone and everything in your body is just like, wow,
this feels so familiar.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
This, this feels really good.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
But then something in your mind is just telling you,
come on, how can you not see that this person
is not good? Look at the way that they even
just communicated to you. But they're still this pool that
you have towards them. Right, So this is when we
have that clear thought, which normally what research would show
is that we normally are five percent in our conscious mind,

(24:25):
and we normally when we and that's when we are
in an active state of desire, that's when we're in
conscious mind. Ninety five percent of the time we're in
the subconscious mind. So what that means is when you
consciously sit then you think I would love to have
the ideal partner, your subconscious mind is like, oh, okay, sure,
let's go dig out and see what associations do we

(24:47):
have recorded in relationship to a partner, and what a
certain and how they should show up? What is your
language for love? What is what are your associations with love?
So now is digging up all this biochemical responses and
all these unresolved wounds and traumas that we might now have,
and we align then with people that aligned with these

(25:08):
subconscious memories. So we connect to that resonance rather than
the conscious thought of knowing and understanding well that when
someone screams at you and you hate being yelled at,
but somehow it feels so familiar. There's that pull towards that,
even though consciously you know that it's not healthy, that's
not healthy in a relationship at all.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
But the poll the pull is what's dominating.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Because if we could stay in the conscious mind, it
would be much easier to break cycles of this subconscious mind.
But because the subconscious mind is pretty much basically in control,
we have blips and glimpses and moments where we can't
take control, but the subconscious mind ends up taking control

(25:54):
at some point.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Again, Yeah, see my little voice.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
It was a person because I so blind to what
was going on around me, because I was so I
was so I was not in the right state of mind.
So you know, he was like telling me. He was
that boice going hey man, so I'm wrong, Hey man,
something's wrong. Hey man, So I'm wrong. And he was
just like smack back, hey man, something's wrong, like you know,
kind of thing like that, because he kept pointing out
things to me, and he's like, dude, just think about it,
his literal words.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Will just keep thinking about it, man, think about what's
going on.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Like really take a hard look at what's going on
around you and realize what's going on, dude. And he
he always he always keep telling me because I was
so I was so fixated, like I was so attractive.
It was like I had a tunnel vision and I
didn't see anything for what it was worth. And he
was on the outst like, hey man, you gotta see this,
and then eventually just start doing the you know popa
to say, hey yo, look look at this.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
You gotta look at what's going on around you. Man,
check this out. You know.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
So yeah, I know that feeling though. It's it's you know,
then you track people that are that you're used to. Yeah,
like you seem to follow these kind and it's like,
why do you keep bringing this person? And you know,
that question was sometup, why do you always why do
you always go back to the same type of person? Well,
maybe because that's what they're familiar with and they feel
comfortable with because.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
They're used to it.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
The pocact just said you know what I'm saying, and
they just they just got into and they felt like, oh, well,
you know this is this feels comfortable. Let me continue.
You know, it's how toxic it is for me. Let
me just continue going this. I like it so much.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
You know how to survive in that chaos, you know
how to survive in dysfunction. But put that person in
a common, peaceful environment and they're bound to have a
complete panic attack. They will most likely potentially sabotage it
because they're looking for the dysfunction.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, see, you know here the nervous.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
System is looking for the dysfunction. That's all that it knows.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
This leads me to an interesting question for you then. Okay,
so for people that keep doing that, do you have
any advice for them to break that cycle? You know,
because like you said, they're looking to self sabotage you know. Obviously,
you know, these people get into relationships something they're not
used to, and then it really gets interesting because now
they're looking for all the flaws and things like that.
You know, do you have any advice for anybody that's
getting into a relationship with something they're not used to, dating,

(27:57):
like outside their norm, for them to stop looking at
self looking to self sabotage themselves.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
That is such a great question.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
So first of all, what I invite everyone to start
to gently dip your toe into is to first of all,
look at if I didn't have this dysfunction or this
chaos in my life, is there anything else in my
life that I would have to look at and deal
with that I might not want to.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Sometimes we also don't.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Realize how we subconsciously keep ourselves busy to avoid other
pain points that we might have as well, So that's
that's one possibility. Another possibility also is to redefine what
safety really means, redefine what love really means to you,

(28:48):
and what I say what I mean when I say
redefine what safety means. Pete, you won't believe me when
I tell you how many people don't feel safe to
feel safe.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It's hard for people in telling that though, because they're like,
they're so used to the same emotions and things like
that exactly, or they get into that sense where they
almost get to that hypersense where they're like, oh no,
this is something's gonna go wrong, and then they start
panicking and then it's just like, oh God, I don't
feel safe because oh my god, you know, it's like
and then the anxiety would kick in for most people,
just start spiraling faster, you know, and and all those

(29:22):
kind of things and amplifies it and all that kind
of stuff. So I could see that, I could see
where people would have a pushback on that exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
And normally when when I or at least when I'm
gonna use myself as an example, one of my biggest
patterns I was able to break when I realized that
an an conscious realization that I was looking for my
father's love in these partners that I had, because his

(29:49):
love was the most absent, and that is what I
was craving and looking for the most. So you could
only I mean, my dad was a very, very difficult person.
He was a self medicated drug addict, he was an alcoholic,
and he was a clinically diagnosed sociopath. He was a really,
really gnarly person. So my reference for what a man

(30:13):
should be was very toxic. And this is what my
nervous system was looking for. All this destruction, all this distress.
But when I really truly did and something that I
didn't believe in at the time because we haven't had
a chance to really talk about my childhood. But I

(30:33):
went from being an atheist being a Christian actually to
being an atheist to now working with people working in
the holistic industry.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
So it's from one extreme to the other.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
And the reason why I started believing in this incredible
work was I always thought that inner child work was
for sisses. I'm like, come on, you do inner child work?

Speaker 5 (30:55):
What's that? You know what?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (30:59):
I had my biggest breakthroughs by addressing that by just
purely realizing that the little girl inside was looking for
my father's love in this destructive relationship. And Pete, when
that reality hit me, you know, you have awareness of something,

(31:22):
but then there's another moment where you just get hit
with this ball of clarity and it just really hits home.
It just sinks in and I really felt that, I
really felt the reality of that, and I just couldn't
look at that partner at the time when I had
that awakening, I just couldn't look at this person the

(31:42):
same way. Again by just purely working on myself and
acknowledging the difference between needing love from my father and
needing love from you, and something in my subconscious mind
just clicked and the attraction just faded and that was
That was the end of the relationship. It just and

(32:03):
now I have a really healthy relationship and I'm thankful
for that.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
So let's dive into that a little bit now. Okay, So, when, yeah,
how old were you exactly like what, well, what reading dreams?
Did you decide that you finally needed to get some
help Because not a lot of people dig into that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
So it started for me at one of my dark
nights of the soul, so trigger warning. It started when
I was about to commit suicide that one morning, and
I was absolutely geared this was it, I'm done, and
so this was this was really, this is really what

(32:40):
triggered it. And I sat in front of the computer,
complete atheist, alcohol in, one had cigarette and the other
googling you know, how to end it? And instead, long
story short, I don't want to take up too much,
but long story short.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Something intervened.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
And you know how you said earlier, that little voice
talking to you, Pete that time that day, that time,
for the first time, I heard my little voice, and
something said, Yvette, you're asking the wrong question. I'm like what,
I said, you're asking the wrong question?

Speaker 5 (33:13):
And I said, well, what am I supposed to ask?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
And just for anyone, you know, I mean, I'm sure
you can relate when you are at a moment where
you really truly feel so unresourceful, they just feels like
there's just no way out. And suddenly I'm hearing this
voice and it said, how about type in how to
be happy?

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Like what? What?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
And I did, Keith, you know what?

Speaker 5 (33:40):
A kid? You not a kid? You not?

Speaker 4 (33:42):
I thought this was God pulling a prank on me.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
I was furious.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
You know what came up on my screen back then,
and I mean way way.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Way back then, you know, two thousand and six, like
yans Ago, Dorian Virtue, Angel, Neil Donald Walsh, Conversations with God,
Crystal's Color Therapy, Inner Child Work, and I sat.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
There and I thought, Oh my god, this this cannot
be It.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Is this the answer?

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Is this?

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Is this a prank? Is this a joke?

Speaker 4 (34:17):
If there's a God, then is this is this spiritual joke?
And you know what, when you don't have the answer
anymore and you are absolutely on your knees, I had
an ego death that morning, and I decided, you know what,
I don't have the answer right now, and if this

(34:39):
is what it's going to take for me to be
happy like everyone else that I see in my life,
God damn it, I'm just gonna do it.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Pete. I did. I did.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
IF faked it until I made it. I didn't believe,
but I dived in and I thought, Okay, I'm just
at I'm at least gonna give it a go. I'm
gonna give it a try because by nature, I'm a
very competitive person. And so this voice when it came in.
It hit the right button. It hit that competitive side
of me, like why is other people happy and you're not?

(35:13):
Come on with it that there's something that you're not doing.
And I dived in and that's how I started with
the Inner Child work and I started with Neil Donald Walsh.
It was Neil and I at night where I would
read the books and just gently and slowly opened up
this pathway for me again in a very beautiful way,

(35:36):
and it was incredibly healing. And the more comfortable I
started to feel with that, the more I just eased
into Okay, what is the next step? This feels good,
what is the next step? And this is a very
graceful way for me in my journey that I found
that you can heal do something that you feel comfortable with,

(35:59):
that is in the direction of change, and when you
start to feel comfortable with it, then ask yourself what
is next? What do I feel comfortable with addressing next?

Speaker 5 (36:11):
And what would that look like right?

Speaker 4 (36:13):
And then keep taking these steps, keep taking these steps,
and you know, three months later, the impact on my
life was so incredible.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
I quit corporate job.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I started, you know, my own person development business purely
by just showing people what I did to improve my life,
made a few videos and pete it went viral.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
And started traveling with the world.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
And that's that is how my career started, and that's
why I am where I am today. So no pun
intended purely birthed from a place of complete darkness and nothingness,
where it's just a whole new reset, a whole new
chapter that no one ever could have told me it

(37:01):
was gonna happen. I mean no, there's no way I
even could have dreamt that up right. So this is
what I would say to people to come back to
your question in relationships. Really, at the end of the day,
if you cannot love yourself enough to say no and
to know and understand very clearly what you want and need,

(37:25):
someone else will always decide that for you. You will
always be at the mercy of someone else's dominance. Because
if your happiness, if your value in yourself is attached
to other people and how they treat you, and they
maybe constantly reject you, so we look for more love

(37:46):
and then we get that little bit of one percent
of validation, and it's just enough to hook you in
more right, your happiness, your inner peace, your worth. Your
value will never ever be yours. You will never find
your inner peace or your happiness because it will always
be dependent on someone else's emotional state. And people change,

(38:09):
People come and go, people come and go, and your
inner safety, your nervous system will consistently be disrupted and
just regulated because of that. But now we also need
to keep in mind, and here's the beauty about inner
child work peed why it is so powerful. So much

(38:34):
happens between the time that we are bored until the
age of three. You function and wire purely on your
nervous system. You are in the right brain, fully full
blown gestalt life experiences. It's all about how gently were
you touched, how much were you hugged. All of that
helps the hypocampus, the emotional brain, the amygdala to develop right.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
All of that.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Gentle eye contact, parents' voice tone, you know that's connecting
to your vagal tone. All of this happens those first
three years. Now, what's frustrating is there's not a lot
of cognitive memories. This is nervous system memories. And that
is why I am so deeply passionate about helping people

(39:19):
to learn and understand how does your body feel? What
does your body want to do when you think of
that thought or that bad incident that happened. Because memory
is number one. By the first time that you recall
a memory, fifty percent of its validity is incorrect because
of the way that we recall memories and we layer

(39:39):
the memory back in when we're done connecting to that memory. Right,
So I mean, long story short, but that's how neuroscience
work with memory.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
So you don't always know.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Are you even tapping into an accurate, correct memory. I
cannot tell you how many people have come to me
trying to heal an address something. And when we really
got into the body, into the somatics of it, most
of the incidents and the events never really truly took place.
Why because when the person would move into a certain
position or they would recall a memory, but then they

(40:13):
re dive into the emotion of it, that's when the
truth really starts to come forward through body movements, through
ways that the body will communicate to you in emotions, sensations.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
That never lies that.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Cannot be recalled and then restored incorrectly. That is always consistent.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
And so the beauty of.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Knowing what happened, or at least how your body stored
certain events can really truly be an incredible gateway for real,
true deep healing, because a lot can take place there,
a lot can be programmed and stored there. Granted a
lot can happen after that as well. Absolutely, But at

(40:58):
the end of the day, how does the body feel?
That is really what we want, That is what we
want to follow, rather than worrying about memories. So this
is a very important aspect of working with the body
that I learned to help people with, especially when people
went through very traumatic moments. No one wants to really

(41:21):
talk about what happened, you know, that thing that was
so traumatic because people can relive it. People can actually
relive it. So I'm very conscious of that, so I'm
more curious about Okay, so if something bad happened, and
this is part of the reason why you keep attracting
bad relationships, Notice how does your body feel when you

(41:41):
are in a relationship that's unhealthy for you, even though
you're in nervous system might feel familiar with it.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
A lot of people might have.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Chronic backpain, a lot of people might have chronic bloatedness,
a lot of people might have a lot of headaches,
constantly or they constantly have health problems. They constantly have eczema. Right,
this is the body's immune system responding to an environment
that in a way it doesn't want to be in.
It's unhealthy. But now we need to get the nervous

(42:10):
system to also help and understand that. So there's quite
a few elements that we need to look at. How
do we bring all of this back on board? So
for me, it would be nervous system work. How does
your body react and feel when you are with this
person that you probably feel is not healthy for you,
but you kind of feel stuck to it. Whose face

(42:33):
or voice do you see or feel or sense When
you connect to these sensations in your body, your body
will very accurately tell you who is part of the problem,
meaning someone from the past, because the past is being replayed.
I'm telling you the past is being replayed when you

(42:54):
are in unhealthy circumstances. No one with a healthy self
esteem is going to walk into a toxic situation and tolerated.
It's not going to happen. So there's an underlying predisposition,
a vulnerability that's being taken advantage of and being exploited
and it's important to find and ask the question, what
is that vulnerability, Where does it come from? What does

(43:17):
this vulnerability need? Because what that vulnerability needs we need
to relearn how do we give that vulnerability the love
or the attention that it wants and need, but safe love,
safe attention, and not this unhealthy, toxic attention that it
is getting. And when you start to heal that inner child,

(43:41):
you start to heal your relationship with yourself. And when
you have a rock solid relationship with yourself, no one
can possess you. When you are self possessed, no one
can possess you. So this was a very powerful journey
for me where I had to learn how to say

(44:02):
yes to me self, compassion, self love. And I'm not
talking about this new age fluff love. I mean just
common courtesy, just decent respect, just self respect, right right?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah? Yeah, I love it. Love how you said, hey,
like that this new age fluff crap.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
No, yeah, I mean, let's be real, because it's not
for me either.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
No, I agree, it's just because you know it's I
think with the Internet, I think it makes it worse
for a lot of people because you get all the
wrong information. So it's like sometimes you watching these videos.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
And you're just cringing.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
You're like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Nobody asked them a moment important question. What is your credit?
What are your credentials? If you're giving me advice, what
are your credentials? And I think a lot of people
that's where they get the misconception of these things, and
they get this ego built up like, oh, you're doing
the right thing when you're really not doing the right thing.
You're more harm to yourself because oh, well, because so
and so told me he's a million followers, they told me.
But there's no so and so have any credentials. Oh

(45:04):
you know, I didn't think to ask that question. No,
of course, Now you didn't think to ask the whole
important question of how if you're giving me advice, what
the hell is your background that you're gonna tell me
these things?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Like it's like these people just like they believe anything
these days, and it's just like very sheep like mentality,
you know what I mean, Like, Hell, my friend watched
some soon, now I'm gonna watch them.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Oh yeah, I like them too, because they like them.
I'm just like, oh, stop please doing that. You all
need to that.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, and you know, the thing what you touched on
is so important as well. I like what you said
and the focus that you brought there, because I see
also a lot of people who would just you know
that the sheep herd concept that would just be it's
it is blowing up. And a big part of that
I'm wondering and I'm seeing is we're so disconnected. We're

(45:50):
so disconnected that we're craving connection and anything that just
remotely resonates we want to attach to that to just
feel that we belong. And this again comes from not
knowing who you are, not having that relationship with yourself,
not having a clear sense of understanding and clarity of

(46:11):
who am I as an individual? What is my identity
all about? Because when we have clarity in that, you're
gonna see through all of this BS, they're gonna be
less inclined to attach to these people and to these
circumstances because people, and I see this a lot here
in places where like I'm here in Bali and I

(46:34):
see a lot of people wearing you know, these expensive
yoga clothing and god, they can't touch their toes even
if their life depended on it. But this is this,
and this is just an example, and they are so
desperate to just belong. They just want to belong somewhere

(46:54):
right these groups, these clique groups, and sometimes you can
see people they're not even interest in what these groups
are doing. They just want connection, they want love, they
just want connection. But not knowing who you are, you
are bound to attach to the wrong people and to
the wrong dynamics and to the wrong groups. Because if

(47:17):
you really truly knew who you were, you had that
self respect, that self awareness of what your deep true
needs are, you would be aligning and associating with healthier
people and circumstances and not just take what you think
you can get. Because the way that you were treated
as a child, that becomes the barometer of what you

(47:37):
think you can and cannot have in your life.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
And we make.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Decisions based on that foundation. We allow people in certain
dynamics to come into our life based on that foundation.
But the sad part about that ped is that this feedback,
this is traumatized feedback from people themselves who's struggling to
right these people that validated us in these toxic ways

(48:02):
when all that we wanted was love or connection. A
child Pete.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
A child has.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Such pure love, such pure love, and that pure love
that that child has is calling a parent into a
very vulnerable space in a very high vibration. And most
parents don't know how to meet a child in that space,
and they act and react from a place of inadequacy,

(48:32):
sometimes shame, sometimes awkwardness and rejection because they don't know
how to show up because no one showed them how.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
And that is why sometimes we have to take a
few steps back and we have to reparent ourselves right,
really backtrack. And that's why it's not just about inner
child work. It literally is sometimes reparenting ourselves. I just
made a podcast episode what to do when the abuser dies, because,

(49:03):
let me tell you, that's a whole different type of grief.
How do you cry over someone that was a mother
or a father when they did nothing but beat you
up and yelled at you and insulted you.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
There's nothing to miss.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
So what I had to learn a few years ago
when my father died, Pete, that that's not a heartbroken grief.
That's an ugly grief. You grieve what you never could
have had, because when that person dies, the hope of
them changing. One day dies as well, and it's that

(49:44):
glimmer of hope that helps you to keep you going.
Maybe one day, maybe one day. So something really beautiful
that worked for me was to reparent myself right, not
having the safe masculine, not having the father, and constantly
attracting toxic relationships, violent relationships. And now I have a

(50:07):
husband that's as cool as a cucumber, Like I sometimes
feel like I need to just like, let's just have
an argument so something can happen. You know, he's just
so relaxed and everything.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Is just peaceful. It's so diplomatic.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
And it took my nervous system a while to feel
safe with that because I'm constantly thinking, Okay, let me
start an argument because I know he's probably gonna start
one at some point, but at least I started it,
so I'm in control.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Right, It's all about control.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
And so that started to regulate it and get better
and that that's all really peaceful now. But to come
back to what I was saying, now, right, this is
getting over done with because it's gonna come, and no
it's not gonna come. In that new relationship, it didn't come.
And so but just to come back to what I
was saying about reparenting. That's really important and what I

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had to relearn about reparenting myself with a healthy father figure.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
And this is for anyone else.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
I'm still answering your question, Pete about advice for people
who are stuck in challenging relationships, but just in a
different narrative so people can relate. I actually did meditations,
And just just note, if you are an EmPATH, do
meditations while you have another something in your hand, like

(51:25):
a stress ball, or maybe with your feet in the water,
or maybe with your feet on the grass. But do
something else that's like a gentle stimulus while you meditate,
because sometimes meditating can actually be quite it can retraumatize
people who are highly sensitive. So and I found out
that I happened to be one of them, and so,
and I'm just sharing that so people know. Yeah, So

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I would meditate, and I normally meditate when I go
for my morning walks. And I started to build this
archetype of what would the perfect father look like, feel like,
how would I like to feel in this person's presence?
And I started to just retrain my inner child and

(52:11):
my nervous system to be reparented by literally an archetype
that I built for myself, because if you don't have
that in a person, how else do you create that?
And what's beautiful about this? A lot of people might think, oh,
that's sad. Well, actually it's not all the power to

(52:33):
me because I learned how to create something out of
nothing and heal as a result of that. Am I
still healing? Yes, but good god, I'm doing great. Pat
on the back to Yvet, because I really have to
give that to myself. I'm so I'm really happy with

(52:55):
how far I have come by simply just reparenting myself
in that simple but incredibly powerful way.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
So I do hope that that helps, and I hope
that I was able to answer your question.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Oh no, like not talking, just keep going because I'm
so fascinate. I'm just like, okay, because I was relating
to the whole over me and me and so and
so were in the bed lay and they're watching it
together and he didn't know it.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I was like, I had that same moment. My guest
on Friday was doctor Jen and when.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
I was watching her videos, I was like, doctor Janna,
this is gonna sound weird, but we spent a lot
of time together.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
You just didn't know.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And she started laughing at me. I was like, you know,
like you get to meet these people. Like I've watched
her since day one when I started doing this podcast
and starting a lout research and certain things I didn't know,
and I came across from her videos. So I just
kept watching her videos and watching her videos and it
was so interesting because the way she put it out
for you is so it makes sense, you know, but
then this person she's really sitting in front of me
and she's the same person, and I'm having a surreal moment, like,

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oh god, like so awesome.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
She knew how excited on this dude. I told her.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
She she was laughing at me. She was, oh my god,
You're so funny. I was like, I'm like, yeah, I know.
I'm like I'm fangirling, I know, but it's just so
cool to have the person that you were watching these
videos sitting in front of you being the same exact person.
It's like, she didn't I love that bit, And it
was it was so cool because you know, I could
I could relate to that too, because I was like, yeah,
you know a lot of times I watching you know whatever,

(54:19):
like we you know, and I told her jokingly told
her that, and she was just laughing at me because
I'm like, just so awesome, You're so nice, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I was like, no, this is so so real. Let
me pinch me. She's sitting right here in front of me,
because it was.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
So cool because it's like you talk, you see these
people in these videos, all these different things are doing,
and then it's like, you know, me and my life
joked about it one day, Hey, maybe one day she'll
come on the show and know one to hold. I
caught her one day when she was like on TikTok
of all places, and I was like, hey, doctor Senn,
I got a podcast, you know, and she saw it.
Out of everybody's comments strolling, she saw mine and said, yeah, yeah,
reach out. And it took her like a month afterwards

(54:53):
to reach out. And she was like, oh my god,
I'm so sorry. I'm just like, don't be sorry. Your
message me man, I kind of freaking out.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It's like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Well, and then then she booked a date and I
was like, okay, and then it got closer. I was
getting excited people like, you know, all right, this morning,
I said, this morning is happening, and she's like.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Oh no, I can tell so.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
But it was so cool though when she was She's
sitting right there talking to you know, but it was
just like the same person that you've seen in all
these videos and even off air. We talked like an
hour and a half afterwards, and she was still the
same person. And it was so cool though, because it's
like you get to meet these people you watch them
all the time, and then they're in front of you
and they're the same exact person, you know, and you're
having that thought in your mind like, Okaya, what is

(55:32):
this going to turn to the you know, you know,
fame's got me going ugly type deal going on, you
know what I mean, It's just like no, no, no,
it's not happening. And it was just like it was.
It was so bright though. I mean, like I said,
this podcasts gave me a lot of opportunities to talk
to people such as herself and you and everybody else.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
And it's been great.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
So as we start wrapping up, though, I do have
two questions ask every guest that comes on this show. Okay,
so you know, this one comes in from a friend
of mine. She wants a podcast the ship that goes
on in her heads.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
When he in her interview, she asked me very question.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
She knows I'm a big music guy, and she goes, Pete,
if your mental health had a song, what would that
song be? So my question to you is, if your
mental health had a song, what would that song be?

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Pete, I'm actually gonna answer with a real true life answer.
So the days where I was sobbing and crying my
eyes out on my motorbike, like really crying, and you know,
might pick me up song that I would sing out loud.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
You know that song from Bob.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Marley, Baby, don't worry about a thing.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Every little thing is gonna be alright.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
So I'm just like, everything gonna be all right, and
I'm and I keep singing it until I start to
feel it and then, you know.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Just breathing through it.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
And so that is my mental health song. And I
love it to this day. I love it.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
That's awesome. Yeah, just picturing in my head now, You're
just everything's gonna be okay. Just take it off and faster.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I really do, because when you drive so fast, no
one could really hear you.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
So it's just like you just.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Let it out and you have.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
A helmet and is either we don't care if you
hear it or not.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
We're jamming out. You pulled next to me, look over
when this person is going in and you're just like, oh, okay.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
They're processing. Yeah, they they're processing. It's okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
So my second question and the all important question, the
whole reason this podcast is, is if you could break
this stigma about mental health and I'm saying about anything
that you hear that just drives you absolutely crazy, Like
you're like, hey, listen, stupid, stop doing these things.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
What would you say.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Giving your power away to what people say to you?
Because these words the worst that they give you, especially
if it's harmful, it's coming through their own traumatized perspective.
So why accept it as your new truth? For what purpose?

Speaker 3 (57:59):
That's amazing that I think it's so true, though, I
think that people do give their power the power words.
That's why you tell to my kids all the time
is that you know, what you say to somebody maybe
the last thing you say to them. So think about
that when you say something harmful to someone, because the
next day they couldn't be there. And then if you
want to take it back. You can't take it back
from there. You're stuck living with the red shot of
knowing that the last thing you said to that person

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was this hateful comment.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
So that's true, right, Life is really short.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
It's real, it really is.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
I agree though, But doctor, if I thinks are coming,
this has been great. I had a blast with you.
So if anybody wants to reach out to you, what
is the best way to reach out to you? Know,
we have all these social media sites, websites, all these
great things, but what is the best way is someone
to contact you if they have any questions or would
like to you know, check out your book.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Obviously it's everywhere to be found.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
So the best place to go to would actually be
my website, and that is wwly dot Metaphysicalanatomy dot com.
You'll find everything there, including my free book or get
your free book right Restoring Emotional Bodies exactly what we
talked about. It's a free ebook with the guided healing meditation.
Everything is free to help you to learn and understand.

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If I have a pain in my neck, what emotion
are you suppressing? What is going on in your life
that you need to take note of. And then the
healing meditation, which is a pre recorded video is there
to help you to guide to work through it, to
process it. So there's a lot of breath work, a
lot of you know, writing exercises to really get you
to go deeper into the process and to start releasing.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
That sounds awesome, guys.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
The website will have to be linkedn blowing the bio
here below with doctor Bets all her background. Trust me,
there's plenty to read. You're not going to miss out anything, guys.
Truss me twenty one books in an accomplishment list beyond Belief. Well,
thank you again so much for being here, guys, and
I appreciate you coming and talking with us today.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
This is great. I loved it. I had a great
time with this.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
And guys said, it's always on Pete for so anxiety.
You know, you find me an X all the way
down to TikTok. I'm on Spotify all down out her
radio and as always say it costs nothing. Absolutely that's
be kind to somebody. One kind act you could, you
could say Sam's life for hell, you can to make
their day. I'm Pete for its anxiety, saying off saying hey,
don't I ask your days today? Say hey, how's your
mental health today?