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Speaker 1 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Today, guys, Welcome to an exciting episode of Pete for
Sonxiety here in the Oracle Talk Aer your network. My
guest today is the all of the author of Awaken,
a book that doesn't teach you who to be, it
reminds you who the hell you are. Please welcome in,
Candace Lynn. Candace, are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I'm great? Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, thank you so much for being here. Why don't
you tell a me at bit more about yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, I'm, you know, just I'm a mom of three
beautiful daughters, been married nineteen years tomorrow, actually right, thank you,
And you know, I am just somebody who cycled through
their own mental health issues, was on the healing journey cycle,
you know, I'm healing. I'm healing. I'm healing, and realized

(01:38):
that that was never that wasn't getting me where I
wanted to be. And so I sat in the fire
of my own unraveling and found the potential and the
potency inside of me that tells me I'm I'm here
to do something right. I'm here on this earth for
a reason. And once I was able to walk into that,

(02:02):
then everything that came up in my life that wasn't
in alignment that I followed, and I tracked and I
found the subconscious route that was keeping me stuck in
that cycle and undid it. And now I follow my
truth and my potency and I'm here to empower others

(02:22):
to do the same.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Right. That's amazing. So about your book title, that's the
funniest thing I've read. But it's true though. I mean,
it doesn't teach you who to be. It reminds you
they you are. You know, that was such a great title.
How'd you come up with that?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Honestly? Just that's what this process did for me. It
reminded me who the hell I was outside of of
what's happened to me. You know, I was I fell
in the trap of living from my traumas and that's
what defined me and my anxiety. While I'm somebody who

(02:58):
had struggles with depression and anxiety. Yeah, and I found
out that that's it's not the truth of my being.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Right, Yeah, especially especially the book too, I mean, you know,
it's it's interesting. The title alone has to get a
lot of reaction. Like I started laughing. I was like,
oh my god, this is the greatest thing ever. Like,
if you could title a book it's like that's what
your title speaking, or like hey, stupid, stop giving into
your own self doubt or whatever, you know, something like that.
But it's just like it's so catchy because it's it's

(03:30):
so funny though, But I mean, like, what's what is
the book about? Though? I mean literally, is it just
like your own personal journey or is it just like it's.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a mirror. It's an activation mirror taking you through
those subconscious beliefs, right we in in my belief is
our external world. It mirrors back our internal well being.
And if we're running those subconscious codes of I'm unworried,

(04:00):
the I'm not enough, I'm unsafe, then that's what our
nervous system is reacting from, and that's the reality we
create and live from. And so this book takes you
into that subconscious coding that you have and helps you
unravel it and and find find who the hell you are.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah yeah, I get that too. And what kind of
research did you have to do to get get to
that point? Because that's a lot of deep stuff right there.
You know, you're sometimes just alone. It's a whole nother
topic we can get into about, you know, just itself.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, it's been. It's kind of my life PhD. I'm
I'm I'm somebody who questions everything. You know, if a
curiosity comes up, I'm going to be in that rabbit
hole and I'm going to find it. And what I've found.
I live in a I live in a community that's
kind of known for being spiritual, and there's a lot

(04:52):
of spiritual coaches. And I thought, okay, I'm I'm I'm
going to immerse myself in this, in this commun unity,
and then I'm going to be healed, right. And what
I found was, Yeah, there's a lot of people out
there that are coaching and taking people through these processes.
But the more I got to know the individuals, they

(05:15):
bypassed their own pain, right, and they're out there telling
people how to how to live their life. And so
I just take a lot of research I have done.
You know, I've spent tens of thousands of dollars on
my own personal life, coaching and learning and helping my marriage.
And so it's been through both active research and life

(05:41):
and tracing my anxiety. I was riddled with anxiety for
so long and tried medications and and you know, they're
great for the people that they work for. But I
didn't like the way they made me feel, so I
had to go deeper.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
They were just like the major heart rate, and I
was like, I'm pretty sure this is not what it's
supposed to be doing. I'm standing here like I feel
like a random mile. But it didn't.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
And it's yeah, yep. So a lot of internal journaling,
you know, reading researching, and I've just was really intrigued
by the subconscious, the mind and the belief.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's a very fascinating subject when you get deep into
it too. You know, me and a guest, Betsy Holmeberg,
we did an hour conversation just about that alone. You know.
We talked about like negative self talk and and things
like that, and we got deep in there and it
was something amazing, Like you you found out so many
things were just it was it was it's a lot
for people to handle, you know, a lot of people.
It's a lot of information, but like, once you get it,

(06:39):
it makes sense. So when she broke it down so
well too though, she was just likely just kind of
giving it to you the technical side, and then she
turned around and give it to you the side that
when we can understand it you know, and it was
it was great though, mean, you know, and that sounds
like you did a lot of research on you on it,
you know, using your own life experiences to which is
always great when you're writing a book, because you know,
that's the first question people ask you. Okay, so what
are your credentials? Well, I spent all this time doing

(07:01):
those research. I didn't just do it for no reason.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like I said, there's I
fully recommend people finding actual professionals in their field and
then also going within seeing what resonates with that truth
inside of you and finding what don't and if it don't,

(07:24):
then it's not for you, right, And I'm a recovered
people pleaser. That's the first one that I unraveled. I
spent my life trying to source safety and my self
worth externally because I had never gone in and found
the parts of me that believed I wasn't worthy and
believed I was unsafe and unraveling that. I mean, I

(07:47):
guess I am my own labrat. I'll say that's where
my research came from.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, well you did say you put your own experiences
in it too, I mean, which that's authenticity is really big.
When it comes to a lot of things, people always
want to know more about the person writing the book.
So when you what was that one moment though, that
just said, fuck it, I'm gonna write a book about it,
because you know, you had to have that moment. I
feel like that's the way you even describe it too.
It's like, you know, I just said fucking one day
and just said, you know, I'm gonna write a book.
I just feel like that's the based on the title alone,

(08:14):
that's what you basically done.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's exactly exactly. And there was there was a defining moment.
I was working NonStop with this company, hustle grind culture.
You know, just keep your head down and keep going
and you'll get it. You'll get there. And I was
crumbling on the inside. I was, you know, leading a
team and it looked like I was doing great, but

(08:38):
I was crumbling, and my relationships were struggling. My you know,
my children were missing their mom. And I just hit
this pivotal moment of fuck this, like I.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Know what I told you, that's what she was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I know that there's more to life than this and
it has to be different. And so the book almost
came coincide with me, you know, unraveling myself. There was
a point where I'm like, am I creating the book
or is this book creating me?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
True?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right? And it was just I didn't have a choice
not to. It felt like it was just this is
coming through me, and I'm going to trust it and
follow it. And here I am.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know, that's a similar story a lot of people
tell me. Like one woman we met, Sherryann Boyle, she
said that it was an anty called spirit that had
helped her write twelve books. And she was just an
average person, is how she described. She was just an
average person forehand, she said, then something tapped in and
was just like she just wrote and then she wrote
twelve different books. And I'm just like, yeah, that's that's okay.

(09:48):
But it was interesting because during the interview, if anybody
hasn't seen it, go back watch it. Like thirty minutes
in something happens like, dude, I feel something goes on
and you just watch me go completely blank and she's
reading these words to me. I'm just staring at but
I could I could feel the presence of what she
was talking about. And it was the weirdest thing. I've
ever had happened, because I've never felt like that before,
you know, But so, I mean, I get it though.

(10:09):
It makes sense. Like especially writing a book. It's just like,
you know, you put it out there and then people
are going to criticize you, and you know all that
other stuff you got to deal with, and in your
anxiety already had to be high at that point because
you're like, I got to release this to the public
now and to see what the hell they do. And
it's just like, yeah, I don't know about this.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
For sure, for sure, and it was but it was,
like you said, and I don't know if it was
a spirit or what, but there's a frequency and part
part in some spots where I describe the book, it's
it's a frequency transmission. There was a frequency coming through
me that radically changed my life, Yeah, and poured out

(10:50):
of me onto the pages. It's you know, I'm like
always going to be asked, how did you write a book?
I surrendered, That's how I wrote it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
She's like, that's just said a fucking moment. He's gonna
write this book one way, Hell come, hell of high water,
this thing is gonna get written. God damn it. It
doesn't matter how we do it, but we're gonna get there.
Jesus No, I agree, because I've been talking about writing
my own book about my own story, and it's just like, yeah,
that's about as far as a guy was the title.
That's it. I was like, get around it. I got

(11:21):
too many things going on though, but I got a
lot of side projects and things that I take on
a lot. I don't know how much you gonna energy
work you ever get, but what is it? Human design
is another thing we're gonna We're gonna talk about when
I bring on one guest that we have and we're
gonna talk about it. But I'm basically a man generator.
So like the fact I have multiple things going on
at once is typical of that human design itself, you know.

(11:43):
And we've covered astrologies another interesting one if you haven't
seen that. Uh, we go through the Birch art thing
and it it is so accurate. Is it's so hard
to say that it's not though, you know what I'm saying,
Like this woman is pointing things out to me while
we're live talking about this, and I'm just like, it's
crazy because I've never told her anything before that point.
We haven't talked prior to that. All she knows is

(12:03):
my birthday place I was born. Oh, the she would
need for to basically run it, you know. So then
we were talking to the actual results live and things
like that too, and you just see these different things.
So you know, that frequency makes sense because I've been
getting bigger into the energy healing sector and things like
that too. Because after I met a woman named Melanie Hughson,
she had come on and we talked about how I
had this weird feeling. I couldn't tell what it was,

(12:25):
but you know, and he explained it and you know,
and it was like, you know, it was kind of
like that almost like a frequency. It's like this weird
feeling you have, like you know, you're feeling something, but
you're not sure what it is exactly. And she explained
to me what it was, and we kind of came
to the groundbreaking fact that it was like, you know,
it's it's you know, you feel energy. And I'm like,
it makes sense because Einstein said we're all creative energy,

(12:45):
you know, and things like that too, you know, And
it was interesting because I just like I could never
put my finger on what it was, but that's a good,
good idea, though it could be free. It was like
a frequency. It was like something that just kept, you know,
vibrating with me. Every time I got close to certain people,
I could tell it was either I didn't like them
or I liked them, and I couldn't tell you why,
but I could tell you I just didn't like something
about them, and it just like I got a weird feeling.

(13:07):
And it still happens today. Now. It's like, you know,
because I'm an EmPATH, so I have to be careful,
so I take out a lot of people's energy around me,
and it's training at times. Man, There's some days I
go to work and I'm just standing close to people.
I can just tell you I don't like you, but
I can't tell you why. It just know there's something
I don't like about you, you know. And it's just
some people give that weird vibe off that you're just
not sure what it is, but you know there's something
you don't like kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
So and I and I think that's an energy as well. Right,
That's the deeper I've always felt that and not understood why.
And the deeper I go into my authenticity and my
truth and my potential. Now I'm recognizing I can see
that insecure ego. You know, if somebody's running a belief

(13:50):
that they're not worthy, then their ego is going to
overcompensate and right this. And you feel that you feel
that with people and the deeper that you're connected to
your truth. It's you can't ignore it.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, you can't. You can't. You know. It's that
feeling like you know something isn't right, or you know,
it's that intuition kind of feeling. You know, everybody says
trust your gut, which I do, you know, and and
they started doing that with people that were coming onto
this show. Is looking through my list of people, have
canceled on some people because that too. I was like, hm,
I just don't feel like something you're giving off doesn't
feel right here. And I tell them respectfully, I'm like, respectfully,
I gotta I gotta decline. Maybe in the future. I

(14:26):
just don't feel like we're our energies are matching up
on this kind of thing, you know, And it's you know,
I've turned down very little conversations on this show too.
This morning we were we were crying this morning. I
don't know tell y'all. But we were we were shedding
some teers this morning. I've heard some wild stories on here.
I've had some crazy situations and it's it's been a
roller coaster a ride, man. So let me ask you
this though, after you wrote the book, like, what was

(14:47):
people's initial reaction, Like, you know, you tell people like, listen,
I wrote a book, what's it called? And then you
tell them the title. They had to be laughing their
asses off, like, oh my god, that's the greatest title ever.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
There was a lot of confusion, and you know, in
my in my inner circle, and because I for a
long time, my traumas defined me right and and they
were public and things I've gone through. It was that
victimhood like oh, you know, I'm I'm Candace. I'm the

(15:19):
girl that lost her brother. I'm Candace, I'm this And
for me to.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Step back really quick, though, our guest this morning lost
her brother too, so that's very coincidentally you're here and
she had the same thing too, So.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. That's I love those little synchronicities,
and I'm I'm sorry to be in her company and
that she's lost her brother. That's not easy. It is,
and you know, that's that's just who I was, right,
I was. I was Candace. I was Cody's little sister
and and carrying the pain. And so when I come

(15:52):
out with this book of Awaken to remember who the
hell you are, They're like it was there was confus usion, right,
and but my people love me, and so they chose
in and and bought it. And I think it's it's
blowing their minds.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Like that's good though, I mean, that's what you want.
But also it separates you. Like you said, you're not
identifying it's just Cody's sister. Now you know, you're now
your your Candice. You're you're identifying as yourself, which is
great because I feel like a lot of times then
that happens, you know, and it's very public what happens.
So people are just like they keep doing just like
they were doing. You is categorizing you as, oh, I'm

(16:29):
just so and so a little brother. Well I'm a person,
thank you. So you know, I feel like the book
was your message or like you'reknocking on the window. Hey
guess what, I'm a person. I'm maybe Cody's sister, but
I am an individual myself. But here it is.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Enjoy it, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, and I will always proudly
be Cody's sister, oh of course, for ever and ever,
and also stepping out as letting. And the book's pretty vulnerable.
I mean, I share some things and that goes on,
and I'm assuming most people's minds, maybe I just came

(17:01):
out into the world to admit how crazy I am.
My internal dialogue might be crazier than others.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You're not crazy, though, I mean, I'm sure it's the
thoughts of other people have though, because the reaction of
the book has been really good, I'm sure, yeah, you know,
and people reading and it can relate to your story.
And like you said, that vulnerability, I believe is what
really makes you likable, though, is because you're real and
you're not trying to sell them some big dreams just
like you know some like you know, pyramid scheme type thing.
You're telling them this is my story, this is what happened,

(17:28):
you know, and things like that too. Do you do
mention what happens to Cody in the book? By chance?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I don't. I don't, and maybe one day I'll share.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
That story publicly. But there's something we'll talk about later on.
I have I have something else talk to you about
later on about that, but yes, definitely, that would definitely
be something we can talk about at another time. But yeah,
I only asked because I was just curious because I
know earlier guests that's what she her story was about.
It was a memoir about herself and she talked to
her proso hardest conversation I've had to date on this show.
I'll tell you right now, I broke down in tears

(17:58):
whether I was like, girl, I am you right now?
Oh my god. So but I think it's amazing what
you're doing. I think that you know, you coming out
of your own shell is powerful in its own because
you're you're claiming your name. You're like, well, I'm Candace, Okay, well,
Cody's here is still a memory, but this is me now,
Like I got to step out of this shadow and
do my own thing and make my own movements in
the world. And you know, so since the book, what

(18:20):
have you been up to?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Well it's a it's one of three.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Oh okay, okay, hold on this. We got three books
and serious okay, so what is the second one title?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
It is still in the works, So we're gonna have
awaken and then unravel and unleash. Okay, so I've I've
just felt very strong.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Candas back for another time. Then definitely, you'll have to
let me know the timeline of the books, and we'll
have to have you come back and we can talk
about each one.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah. Absolutely awakens more of just that, like and awakening
to the fact that we have subconscious beliefs running us
and we have the choice to not. And I wanted
it to be digestible because this is big work. Yeah,
And so I cut it into three parts. And unravel

(19:07):
will be more unraveling those webs from all the beliefs,
and then unleash we'll be stepping into that potency and
living authentically and embodying your truth.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Awesome. Do you have a timeline on the books yet
or we're still kind of in the works right now.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So there's your answer right now. And they are by corkboard.
They are sticky notes like, Okay, this is unraveled, this
is unleash. They're they're coming, but I don't want to
rush it.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
This one will Oh god, no, please don't rush it.
I agree with you. If you're gonna do it, you
might as well spend the time, and especially when you're
in that area, you know, you want to take your
time and make sure you got all your dot all
your eyes and all that stuff. And oh yeah, I agree, definitely.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah. In the beginning, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna get Awaken out and I'm going straight into
unravel and I'll have them all done by the end
of the year. But that's that's really not the case.
Awaken came through me in such a sacred way. It's
like I was pregnant energetically with it first, and I'm
letting unravel.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, I mean, you got three books, find up most
people only get to one and just like they don't
even think about the second one right away.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
It kind of reminds me of my good friend Melissa
kim Korter. She's like, I got this one book and
then she's like, well, I'm working on two and three
now later on, like I'm like this and whatever, you
let me know. I'm there. Just I'm there. You just
let me know the timeline for for sure. I am.
I'm down. Like I said, we can set it up,
have you come back and we can talk about the
other ones. And as they start coming out and things
like that. But that's really cool though. I mean, you've

(20:37):
already got two books planning ahead of time. That's more
than most people do. Man, that sounds like my life.
My life's got a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Going on right now, right, and then maybe it's the
ADHD or whatever. But then I'm like, okay, now awaken.
People are getting stuck you right, and and a lot
of times we do need therapy, and you know I don't.
I don't want to. I'm being very careful because I
don't want anybody to bypass trauma and.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Gue help Hub Help Hub dot co. By the way, guys,
in case you want a really good resource if you're
not sure where to start with your own mental journey,
go check it out. Guys, our guys from a few
weeks ago, Lisa Sugarman took the time put it together
for you. You could letally go to this site and it'll
walk you through and get you to where you need
to be.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
But you know what I'm saying that what's up?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I said? You know what I'm saying. It's a great
site though, she has everything listed. Therefore, you categorize and
everything else and things like that. Literally help hub dot
cos what really what it's called. But it's like a
one stop shop. She even went through and broke down
the different religions like what they allow you to do
in those religions and has this category for us two,
Like she put a lot of work into this thing
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Oh, I am going to go check that out. That's
what I felt like people needed something else. So I
went off on a tangent and trained an AI model
to help people as they're getting stuck. Right. I was
just playing with it today. Why do I keep self sabotage?
And I've trained it to a know when people are

(22:03):
in crisis and send them to where they need to be, yeah,
and recommend in person support if that's what they need,
but to not coddle and take us to you know,
well you value victimhood over success, right, and then this
is how you get out of it.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I could just imagine what a session to you is
like listen, listen, let's just cut the shit right now. Okay,
Like I don't got time to sugarcoat this stuff for you,
you know, like if you don't like this, there's the
door for you. I don't know what to tell y'all.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Right now, I'm just like I said, I'm a recovered
people pleaser, So I guess I had to go to
the other end of the spectrum, like you guys, let's
stop this bullshit and let's get to our truth unapologetically
and move the hell on with their lives.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Right. I love it. I love that. That's my kind
of therapy right there, just like that straight on is truth. Man.
It's like in your face, you know, hey, stop being
a woz or something. You know, I could just imagine,
like are you kind okay, well here's the tissue. Let's
get over this today thing.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
And I do have compassion, I will Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I bet you do it. But yeah, it's such a
humor too, which is great though, you know what I mean,
like you understand what I'm saying though, is it's just
like you know, I think, like a lot of times,
you know, people see therapy and then go, oh, well,
you know, I'm crazy. You're not crazy. It's not that.
It's just you need to understand what it is your
brain is telling you or what you're dealing with, so
you know how to better attack it. You know, because
once you get a better blueprint for where you're at.

(23:25):
You can basically basically progress from there because then you'll
know how to how to look up what it is.
And it's funny you say AI because doctor Fujin and
I had a conversation where she mentioned that jet chat GPT,
you know, the new therapist for everybody if you go
based on these internet trends. We there's somebody that was
typing something she said, and he ended up telling him
like he was having suicide adiation. So then the guy

(23:46):
literally was I guess it told him how to commit suicides?
What chat GPT it does? Like, oh no, no, no,
you didn't. She's like, yeah, you know, because she has
an app and it has a built an AA function
and she's like that's what she was working towards, just
like it not doing something like that like chat EPT.
And I was like, dude, I never knew that until
right now, until you told me, and she was like yeah.
And it's just crazy because everybody's like, well, AI is

(24:08):
my new therapist. I'm like, AI is not your new therapist. Man.
They don't they don't think on the same level we do,
and they're not trained like we are. Like you can
train them so much, but then it gets out of
hand when you start like saying certain things to it.
Then it's pulling up. That situation comes up and and
it's like, oh god no, because what if this person
decided to look on that list and decide to try something,
And it's just like, oh, like stop these trends. Yeah,

(24:31):
you know, as CANDUs would say, stop looking at these
fucking internet trends. God damn it, right, you know what
I mean, Like like you got to be going through
some of these social sites and looking at these things,
going Jesus almighty, what is going on with these people?
Because it's it's scary because you have all these people,
they're all flashy, all they're saying all these great things.
But then it's like you're giving out the worst advice

(24:52):
possible to these people, you know, And it's it's so
hard because it's like stop because these people are listening
to you. That's a scary part of this. All you're
telling us all these things and it's all great, and
then it's like giving us all terrible advice. Well, all
these things are going to kill you. No, no, no, all
these like nutrition people too, Just I can't I keep
getting these weird videos of my timeline and just shit,
I just like look at it and go, what the

(25:12):
hell is going on with these people?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Right? Well, and if we aren't locked into our truth,
you know, it's really hard to know what's right, what's
out there, what's what's truthful? We're all we've been I
think in my book I talk about how we've kind
of been programmed to disassociate.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, what do you think that is? Though we've been
programmed to dissociated? You think it's just because social media
is so easy to dissociate on.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Well, now we're going to turn into conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
We're not turning anything. We're just a conversation. Get out
the ten foil hats. It's up and we just not
putting them up. He's just ever so slightly just slide
them on. Everybody's just looking at us like, huh, never mind,
you would understand.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Arable, you know why? I'm not sure. I think it's easier.
I think it's just the quick answer. You know, I
lived disassociated, yeah, for twelve years, right and coming in
my body, That's where my trauma was, that's where my

(26:17):
pain was, That's where my subconscious beliefs lived. That weren't
serving me, and so just get the hell out of there,
right And if somebody hasn't done that for themselves, gone
in and found their pain and sat with it and
released it, then how are they out here telling people
how to live their lives.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Message everybody, I'll hear what you just said. It makes
perfect sense. It's like, how are you going to tell
me something when you haven't even dealt with your own issues.
At the same time, it's like, so you know, and
it's it's crazy because then, like you said, you used
to be a people pleaser and things like that too,
and that's just it's so hard to watch people that
go through that though. You know. It's like you're watching

(27:00):
them and it's like you know they're doing it, and
then it's like and then you try to tell them
and then they're like, oh no, that's not the case. No, no,
stop deapline yourselves. It is what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, that's one of the biggest examples in my book
that I use for myself is and I had, like
you said, I had conversations with it many times, like no,
that's how I show my love. I'm a nurturer. I
want I want you know that's how I show my love,
but really not really. It was burning me the hell out.
And I talk a little bit about free will. Free

(27:33):
will is interesting to me because I do believe we
have free will. But while these programs are running us.
You know, I never gave myself the choice to not
people please.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I never stopped and asked myself, is this how I
want to live my life? So I wasn't truly exercising
what I think real free, real free will is. I
was my nervous system was like, oh, oh, so and
so needs a drink, Get up and get it. You know,
you'll get validation, you'll be safe, you'll be loved. I
never stopped and thought, is this really what I want

(28:07):
to do?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, and then your anxiety kicks in, and then you're
really just thinking about it like you're a focus hyperfolks.
And the drink, Oh my god, man, you're drink a second.
I go get it, and you know, and people that
don't don't deal with anxiety. It's great to hear their
advice about hey, you know, just get over it, and oh, hey,
don't don't worry so much. Yeah, that's great. I'm glad
you've just become the expert, because it's not what it's like, like,
you know, your thoughts are going to your head one
thousand miles an hour, and it's like you hyper focus

(28:30):
on certain things. You're just staring at them, and you know,
it's it's rough, man. Some days it's rough for me.
Some days my anxiety is just all over the place
and things like that too, and it's hard, man, And
it's it's it hurts so bad when people tell you
to just get over It's like you don't understand what
you're saying to people. It's like telling somebody who's just
lost somebody, well, you know, you better get over it.
You got to be at work tomorrow. It's like, don't

(28:53):
do that. Stop stop doing those things. It's so it's
so terrible that you're doing these things, you know, and
it's just god Scandus would say, you know, it's like
cut the shit, okay, guys, like cut the shit. I'm
gonna start right ference in. I'm like listen if my
buddy Candace would say and just start saying something like
complete absurd.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, that's cool. I like it.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know, It's it's just it's just crazy, man, because
like you get on the internet, and you're influencing these
younger kids, and these younger kids don't know what they're
looking at. And it's like, you know, it's so harmful
because we're not teaching them the right things about these things.
You know, they see all these things, but do they
really understand what they're looking at? It's the real question.
And I don't think they do. And I feel like

(29:34):
the conversation needs to start younger, Like we need to
talk to these kids. It's early twelve, maybe even younger.
Just teach you amount emotionally regulated first, obviously, because then
they'll understand what, you know, all these feelings are having
are you know, and identify sooner when there's a problem,
because if you look at some statistics, we're ain't gonna
go down that road. Those are those are ugly. Man.
It gets worse. And then when social media was introduced

(29:55):
to most younger gentlemen, that number with the twenty percent
right away of kids that are taking life because now
you don't you can bully people from across c inner.
You don't have to be in the same room as
the person anymore. Yeah, yeah, and all that kind of
you know that that's just that kind of stuff you know,
you see all the time, and it's like, you mean,
you know, you're a mom, you don't understand, you know,
like you you have to deal with these situations where
it's your kid. It's like now you have to literally

(30:15):
watch everything they're doing because now it's like, oh shit,
what are they doing on the internet? Because Roadblocks is
not safe anymore for kids either, because there's a weirdos
in there, you know, and all those kind of weird
things that go on in there. And it's it's so
crazy because it's like, Okay, these are meant for kids,
but that's not what we're looking at at this point.
We're looking at Okay, we yeah, we have to watch
them for all these predators that are coming out for

(30:36):
our kids and saying weird shit to them and asking
them for our information, you know, and all that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, it's it's requiring us to have conversations with their
children way younger than when we were growing up, right.
I mean, yeah, I don't think you didn't talk about
anything else, That's.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
What I say. I don't think my parents ever talked
to me any of that kind of stuff. I know,
my mom took me to therapy when I was younger
when they split because she told me I had coping
issues and it wasn't me, it was her having the issues.
And she didn't like that. One the therapist told her that,
she just went, no, we're done doing this. Okay, well,
I guess we're done doing this experiment for you, huh.
You know, because like you said, our generation never talked

(31:13):
about these kind of things. We never we never discussed
this stuff. Hell my dad, I think recently after I
started doing the show a few months ago, we went
to visit in Chicago because I had to go to
a memorial and he started telling me some crazy shit.
I've never heard this man ever seen his life. To me,
he's like, oh, you know where these scars come from?
And it started telling me about where they were, and
I was just like, holy shit, wow, like you just

(31:34):
didn't know like it. It's so interesting to see, you know,
when you really dig into these things, and then a
lot of times you know it's they It's like you
when you see things as a kid, it's at least
four you understand what's going on, So then you think
that's how relationships go. For us, it was way different, man,
We could go outside and leave till eight o'clock at night.
Now you can't go outside either because somebody's afraid someone's

(31:54):
going to snatch a kid up.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, different times, different times, that's what. Yeah, I just
figured the number one thing I can do as a
parent now is go internal, get emotionally regulated, and show
up as me and this approach each each scenario that

(32:16):
comes up individually, right, and have the conversations that I
never thought i'd be having with my kids.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, yeah, that was gonna be my next question. Do
you talk to them about these things?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I mean, obviously, now that you've gone through your transform
and state and you went from being a people pleaser
to wear now, do you do you have open conversations
with them? I don't know how hold your kids are, honestly,
so that you.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Know, Yeah, I've got three daughters, twenty seventeen and thirteen.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Okay, okay, and you.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Know they they're the reason I did the work right.
My grandma was a people pleaser. My mom is a
people pleaser. She's reading my book, so not for much longer.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
But I was watching this much longer.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I was watching this just get handed down and handed down.
And when I started seeing it in my daughters. I'm like,
I handed it down. Yeah, and I've been such a
like I'm going to stop as many generational traumas and
curses as possible. And so it's definitely they've had to

(33:19):
watch me become. I was just a people pleaser, That's
who I was, and if somebody was mad, I would
shrink and I would try to make it better. And
now they're seeing me not right, They're seeing me hold
my emotion and my nervous system and stay regulated and
not get nervous that somebody's going to be upset. And

(33:41):
I feel like having these conversations, writing this book was
my way of giving them the way out, Like here's
the way out for the trauma that I handed down
that I didn't know early enough. And now I just
I'm going to live by it and let them watch
the freedom and happiness and authenticity and ravel. And I
do feel like it's deepened our conversations. You know, they

(34:04):
know me on much a deeper level.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that was going
to be a fault thing too. It's like have they
read the book? Do they know what the things that
you went through?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
So they're working through it. I think they're so close
to the source and it is very Chapter one is intense.
I mean, it's not for everybody. It's for people that
can get radically honest with themselves, and so they are.
They are taking their time through it, they're reading it,
but it's it's very intense for them because I'm their mom.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, oh I believe it. I believe it one hundred percent.
They're reading this and then looking at you going, oh
my god, really, you know a lot of questions are
probably coming out to about it, like what you know
and things like that too, and it's just like then
it's like then they have to look at that and
be like, well, that's my mom and you know, she's
telling your story and this is this is what she

(34:54):
went through in you know, and it's it's hard, man,
it's hard, it really is. I'm sure for the it's
like Grandma did this or so and so did you
know what I mean, like whoever's named in this thing?
You know, and all these things. It's just like all
of it starts making sense to them, you know, the
things that they're looking at, you know, and they're in
the home front, so they're seeing this stuff firsthand. Like
watching you do all these different things, and it's got

(35:17):
to be interesting for them because they're getting a first
hand account of what's going on. And now they're seeing
this book and they're reading a little by little, and
then they're starting to unravel things by themselves. Especially the
older ones probably start to get it more and go Okay,
well that makes sense, and then they start playing back
some of the moments and realizing that, you know, these
are the pieces of the puzzles you're missing basically of
what really goes on, what happened to mom and why
she's like that.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, And you know, I just figured that's the best
thing I can do for them to live a life
of freedom that I want them to have is for
me to emulate it and tell them how I got
there and just be honest and vulnerable about how I
got to where I'm at today.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's it's gonna be it feel good
too for you, because when it gets easier to tell
the two is people read it and they just look
at it and go god, you know, and you're just like, yeah, yeah,
that's a lot. It's a lot download, you know, and
things like that too. More power to you, man, because
that's hard. Once you put that out there, no taking
it back. Man, everybody could read what's going on, you know,
and and stuff like that too. So hats off to

(36:18):
you because that's hard for a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Though. It was, it was. It was scary right as
you know. I had people sign up for early access
as I was getting it printed and I'm having packaged
and I'm taking them to the mailbox and like, maybe
I can't do this, Yeah, but no, I'm staying locked
into the truth that I created this from and I'm

(36:41):
following through with it. And it was. It was liberating
and terrifying all at the same time.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, I bet it was. I bet it was, you know,
but I mean you did it. Here you are you are?
You got two more books planned and everything else. Like
you're on a roll now, man, you just like, forget it.
Let's go we on a machine time.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah. I think just keep looking forward. The couple of
the first books happening, and I'm just I'm just going
to keep going.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Okay, So I have a question for you. I ask
all my guests this question. Okay, if you could break
this stigma about mental health, what would it be like
The one thing that you've over your experience and things
that you've experienced to now, if you were like to
look at your oldest daughter and tell her, hey, listen,
I got a message for you. What would that message be,
basically like, is what does she need to know that's
back from crap in your own opinion?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Oh, it is that we create our life through these beliefs,
and never ever, ever, ever have shame for any past
version of yourself or a belief that you once had. Right,
every version of you deserves a seat at your table
because they got you to where you are today. And

(37:50):
there's it's never too late to pick up you know.
I when it comes to victimhood, my biggest message is
even though even know this happened to me, I can
still live the life I want and just remembering that
that the trauma doesn't define us and we get to
have a life after.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I think that's a powerful statement right there alone. Trauma
does not define us, You're right, And it's the same
thing with your mental health issues. They don't define you either.
I think that is a great statement. I love it.
So another question I asked this comes from a friend
of mine. She runs a podcast called The Shit That
goes on her head. So when her and I interviewed,
she asked me this question. She said, Pete, if your
mental health had a song, what would that song be?

(38:32):
So Candice, if your metals had a song, what would
it be? I get the same reaction every time I
ask you if they're like, oh my god, that is
such a great question.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
It really is. And some people are so good, like musically,
my husband and my middle daughter can yep just like
name and I'm like, oh, that one song that kind
of starts out like this.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
And then.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
If my mental health had a song, I'm a survivoran.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
See that one came up twice now for two people
said the same thing, I'm a survivor. What was it?
Susan Snow told us that hers was rage against the machine.
I was like, all right, okay, all right, go with
that one too. You know. It's it's great though, because
it's like, it's such an interesting question for people because
people are like, wait, what hold on? This is great,
and then you get their responses, and it's great to
see what people responses were. I think we've had beat it.

(39:20):
For Michael Jackson, there was a couple I didn't know
what they were and then I'm trying to think with
some of the other people responded. Some of the people
respond it some other things that were just interesting. My
answer was like multiple answers. I'm like, well, it depends
what they were talking about here, you know, because it
changes every day. I listen to music all day. I
could call recall most songs by just hearing the first
few lyrics of it or the first year. It's one
of those useless kind of things I do kind of things,

(39:41):
but you know, it's it's just what I do. Man,
It's good. I'm good at the kind of thing. But
you know, it's it's interesting because we've had a lot
of topics on here, and especially when it comes to
younger women. We did talk about it, say a little bit.
We actually had a guest on that she runs a
project called Calisto that we were talking about the statists
six of things, and it's just like, guys, we gotta

(40:03):
do better. Man, Like I'm listening to this and I
have three daughters of my own. I have twins, and
I have an older one, you know, and it's like
it's just it's just it's so hard because you have
to have a conversation and explain them that listen then,
because boys can't act right, you know, and this is
why you can't dress like you want to dress, you
know what I mean. It's like, you know, you have

(40:23):
to give them that conversation. And it's like, now, now,
if I look at it, it's like, how dumb is
that conversation? You think about it? Because one side can't
act right and so we have to censor for the other.
It's just it gets crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, that's actually conversations from my daughters, like why don't
we teach boys to not commit essay rather than women
guarding themselves from it?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Right? Yeah, they're not wrong, They're not wrong, ladies. I
can tell you all this is that I'm sorry. I
can't apologize for all the guys out there. I just
tell you that it's disgusting. I literally went on a
ten minute rant on that episode about how I'm just
tired of this. Oh well, she's asking for it and
all this other dumb, dumb shit that you know comes
up in the conversation and things like that. You know,
when it's a girl mom, you can understand that completely
because I'm a girl dad, and I just like, you know,

(41:09):
but I think at the same time, you know, it's
hard for them because it's like, you know, you don't
want to overreact when they tell you something happens, like
your first initials A dad is like, you want to
go there and bury the guy in the backyard somewhere,
but actually that's more harmful, you know, and things like
that too.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
So yeah, yeah, and I do. I think teaching our
daughters to speak our truth and set our boundaries. You know,
I'm in Utah. We're in a very LDS culture, and
we keep sweet and we obey and we people please
write and dismantling that. Yeah, right, speak up for yourself,

(41:47):
set your boundaries, and don't just stay.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Quiet to keep me when, for the love of God,
please do not ever tell me the statement that my
story is very small, because it is not. Your story matters.
It doesn't matter what happened. Oh my someone kept telling
me that. I remember, I think it was last week's ketch.
She was like, my story is really small. No, no, stop, stop, stop.
Your story's not small. Your story matters. Regardless of how

(42:13):
small you think it is. It still matters to somebody
because it somebody else can relate to that story. And
things like that and like you said, speak out. That's
that's really the big message too, is just speak out,
say something to someone, because don't go through what it's
the trauma of all that kind of stuff becauves the
trauma alone. Man, it'll just like eat you alive and
that kind of stuff, you know, And it's it's just,
you know, it's a whole note day for another subject

(42:33):
for that, you know, but it's just like it drives
me nuts, it really does. I think it's so sickening
that we have to make excuses for the way we
act and things like that too, and especially these young
ladies that you know, are trying to express themselves. You know,
we're always like, oh yeah, I express yourself, and then
we tell them all you can't express yourself anymore. It's
like okay, yeah, all right when you want to walk
around just like Amish. I mean, nothing wrong with the Amish,

(42:54):
but you know, come on now.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah. Yeah, it's it's that's that's a wild thing to unravel.
And I just think the closer we can get to
living our truth and authentically and being willing to tell
our stories and speak out.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, so kenn this I got a question for you
for people that deal with people pleasers? What is your
best way for them to approach them about it?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Coming so going to a people pleaser?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, so, say you see a friend you know of first,
let's go talk about this three phrase it. How about
how do you first identify a people pleaser? And then two,
if that's your friend, how do you bring it up
to them without them getting upset?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
That's that's awesome. Well for me, you know my people pleasing,
I was constantly just ten steps ahead of everybody, right,
and so I guess identifying that is the person that's
the last to the table and the first one up
and getting the drinks and getting this or whatever right.
My question to them would be does this fill your cup?

(44:00):
You know, like true nurturing fills your cup. But when
you've just say, you've left a crowd of people and
you are the people pleaser, you saw your friend being
the people pleaser, ask them how's your cup filled? Does
it feel like your cup is filled up right now?
Are you nourished or do you feel depleted?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah? Yeah, I think that's you know, that's all great
advice too, because it's like you see it happen so
many times and it's always disguised as oh my grandmother
told me how to do this, or it doesn't hospitality
in this. And it's always weird to me because my
wife's kind of like that. She she does a lot
of stuff, but that's just her love language is, you know,
like shea likes to make sure people are fed and
things like that. I get that, but it's just like

(44:38):
sometimes it's just like the hammer its home. It's like, well,
this is how you're supposed to be. Like one girl,
I know, she's like, yeah, well, I just want to
be somebody's housewife. I'm like, do you really don't g
is that really what you want for yourself? And like
she's she's pretty convinced by it, but I'm just like,
you know, you're still young. You know, you're sure that's
what you want to do? Well yeah, you know. And
I'm like.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
And maybe you know who knows that? Sure, that's what
I wanted to be as a mom and a wife,
And but I still have I still always wanted to
write a book, you know, and I still have things.
But I was depleting myself, pouring from an empty cup
that there was never any energy left over for what
I truly wanted and so when I started filling my

(45:23):
cup first. Now I give my family the overflow and
I'm able to write books and do all the fun
things that I enjoy.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
That that's awesome, though, I mean, that's really great though.
Now you're a published author, two books on the way.
Anything else you're working on that you haven't told us about?

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Because the two books, the Disruptor AI and Disruption Sessions
live with me, I don't know. I've always got all
sorts of things going on, just like you. Who knows
what's next?

Speaker 1 (45:53):
So what's the what's the static status for the eruptor
AIS is that it's still in the work, So we
have a data on that.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
It's live. It's my website, the Frequency Lab dot t
and everything's there, the book, the waitlist for book to
the AI, you know, booking with me. You can find
me on Instagram, TikTok. It's all there.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
That's right, cause she's on TikTok as well. Okay, you know,
go follow or give her fall. I don't know you
saw it on the show. She'd love to hear from
y'all and things like that too.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
That's that's so cool though, I mean, now you got
the a going the book's coming. Man, you just just
juggling projects. We're just gonna call you Pete two. From
now on, you can be just you know, just juggling
wait wait for you, like, well, I'm starting a podcast next,
so like here we go.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
You know, damn, it's interesting because before I wrote the books,
like maybe this is a podcast like taking people how
I got to where I'm at. But I've always I've
written songs and children's books. I've just always enjoyed writing.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
So maybe it's what's too huh. Okay, this is getting
more interesting now. Okay, now we're peeling back some layers.
So you wrote children's books too, huh.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Yeah, I never published them. They were gifts for my grandma.
Oh okay, about growing up with my grandma at the
world's greatest grandma. So I wrote her books.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
You never know. You may have a winter there too,
you never know. Man, At this point, that's pretty cool
out of here, and you know, it's it's so interesting
because it's like, what else are you writing? Like, well,
I wrote children's books, and I'm like, okay, okay, it's
it's fascinating to find out more things as you go here.
The things you keep telling us. I'm like, all right, okay,
you know, Kansas is going to work on a new
book for y'all too. It's called Listen Things to Here's

(47:25):
your Rebuttal book, and she's just gonna come with different
things for you to say to people, like here, let's
cut the right, let's cut it dry to the point
for y'all.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, shit talks my love language. So maybe
that's maybe that's the next project.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
You big sports fan of you know, not so much.
We were surprising if you talk shit, man, let me
tell you that your alley.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah, my dad I grew up. My dad's full on cowboy.
We'd have I'm sorry, no, not the not the team,
like an actual.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
So not really sports. But yeah, there's a lot of
shit talking the cowboy world.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Oh there's a lot of shit talking to all the worlds.
But sports would probably be riding your alle You can
sit there and be like, you know, what is it,
Duce big lewis in the crowd just talking shit to people.
You guys are much Overcrow plus season things like that too,
or the Hecklers and the baseball fields. I could just
imagine when of those people are yelling hey, so so
and just coming to some crazy ass ship to tell
them and things like that too.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Yeah. Yeah, my mom's a Cowboys fan and we do
talk lots of shit to her.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're a Cowboys fan. I don't
you just less like disappointment. I don't. I don't know
what's to tell you there. I harassed them every day
I get a chance, trust me. I love it though,
but it's it's just like we love talking trash for
I'm at though, especially football season. It turns into war
zone in there. We're just oh yeah, back and forth,
bantering about everything possible.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Grew up in Colorado, so I think you can know
what flag we flew.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, we're gonna play me Asking to leave at any
kind of cookouts, we're like, I'm sorry, you gotta go.
We don't like Broncos fans here. But as we get
to start getting ready to wrap up this episode of
People's Inside Nas, thanks for coming. This is great. I
had a great time with you. Like I said, we'll
definitely have to invite you to come back for the
next book and everything like that. Do you want to
live you know where they can find you? I know
you list your website, what's your what's your handles on TikTok, Instagram?

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Do you what do you most answer.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
The most Instagram TikTok, Candice Lane awaken on both of
those and then the frequency lab dot t o. There's
links to everything there.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
So go go go get in the waiting lists for
the book, guys, because hands said book Who's coming out eventually?
He said, if you wait long enough, you might get
book three as a bonus.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
You never know, Yeah, you never know.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
So well, guys, I'm gonna wrapple this episode of Pete
for Society and Kenda, thank you so much for being here. Man,
this is great. I had a good time. We'll definitely
have her come back for sure with book two, and
then we'll figure out Book three from there and everything
like that, and she'll come back and she can tell
us more about the new book when she has a
little more information she can release to us, guys. And
as always on Peter for Anxiety, am I everything how
X down to TikTok, I'm on Spotify, own down the
Heart Radio And as always say it costs nothing absolutely

(49:55):
to be kind of somebody one kind of can do
save somebody's life, or you can even make their day.
I'm Peter for instance. Al He said, I'm saying hey,
don't ask Your day is say hey, how's your mental
health today?