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Kris Rice
Founder & CEO of ChillPod | Cold Therapy Thought Leader & Mental Wellness Maven

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(01:39):
stigma that it's not talked about enough. My guest today
is the founder and CEO of the Chill Pod, the one,
the only Chris Rice how you doing today, Chris, I'm great,
How are you doing? Fantastic? I'm so glad you hear today.
So what exactly is chill Pod? I'm interested to know more.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, good, I'm excited. So chill Pod is a cold
immersion system. So it is a beautiful cold plunge system
that makes really cold plunging a part of your rituals
of your life to really up level both your physical
and mental health.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's so awesome though in it, you know what led
you to discover though chill Pot. I mean obviously something
inspired you to get to that point. You know, it
wasn't just something that you just kind of woke up
when dame like, hey man, I should try it?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Is No, definitely not. It was a long and winding road.
I have always had like an entrepreneurial spirit within me,
but didn't really know where that was going to go.
And then I have two daughters that are teen ish now.
But when my older one was young, she had a

(02:44):
lot of mental health struggles from a really young age,
and so alongside her and supporting her, being her advocate.
Because she was so young, I was able to not
only look for alternative forms of supporting wellness in her
but also in myself. And I was able to see
as I journeyed with her, really where my own mental

(03:08):
health was struggling, where I had just a lot of
anxiety and my nervous system was frazzled, and all of
those things that come along with just taking you know,
carying a lot, being a parent and a parent of
a child who's having a hard time, and being a
full time working person and all of the things that

(03:30):
just added up. And you know, I, until I really
started peeling things back with her, I really didn't have
the opportunity to do that for myself. So that led
me down a path of just being curious of what
could be out there. So I got very into meditation
and all that went along with that, which I love

(03:51):
did and still do, but it takes a lot of time,
and I found a lot of relief from it. But
also like, realistically, I'm drowning here. I don't have hours
in the day to support what I need. I have
to find something that's more effective and quicker. And so
I have a good friend who continuously was like, Chris,

(04:14):
you should definitely try cold plunging, and I was like, no,
thank you. That honestly sounds terrible. I don't want to
do that, And so I went back and forth with
her for some time before she was like, seriously, like
just try it, and so I was like, fine, what
do I have to lose at this point. So it's
from that place that I really just had a sense

(04:36):
of like, well, worst case it doesn't do anything, and
best case maybe something changes. And so I set up
a horsetrough in my backyard and the rest is history. Literally,
I was hooked from the first time. It was the
first time that I could feel my mind clear out
and just feel like I actually got a reset. And

(04:58):
so it's really just parlayed into such a passion for
me to try and help especially more women get in
cold water because that resistance is very high. Everyone hates
cold water, including myself, And how do we just reframe
that and understand what's possible on the other side. So
you're actually curious enough to try.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
It right exactly? You know in marketing it to isom
women is your main demographic? Correct? And that when I
went reading right, well, you.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Know, honestly at the start of it, yes, that's what
I wanted. But I will say, like, it's definitely for
all people. I don't want to say that it's not,
but I think from just me connecting with other people,
I always I'm trying to really connect with those women that,
like I said, are their resistance is high? So how
can I kind of give a face to me too?

(05:49):
And maybe here's how you could try it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, definitely that makes sense. So no, I was just
I was just curious. I know, I know a lot
of people, you know, focus a lot of certain groups
either with you, males or female. To beion what it is,
and like you said, you're you're going after the harder
sell versus probably easier sell for men, you know, things
like that, and it's like, yeah, hey, listen all these
great properties and things that come with it, and you know,

(06:12):
like you said, what is it? What do you have
to lose? I mean I love it when you said it,
because I'm like, what do you lose? Like, think about
it if you apply it to everything, Like, what are
you gonna lose at this point? What's the outcome? Worst
case scenario? You fail? Okay, well you fall and you
get backed up it don't it? Don't hurt the throp
up fall over? You know, it happens everybody well, and.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's the same thing. I mean, there's a lot of
parallels I think between meditation and the cold therapy itself.
But like same with meditation, like there's no side effects
like worst case you fall asleep or like you literally
you know, you come out of it and you don't
feel any different, Like that's literally the worst case. So
you know, no different than cold plunging worst case, like

(06:52):
you absolutely hate it and you never want to do
it again. But I find it usually that's not the case.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, no, obviously, you know you you got something going
with it. People like it, you know, and people falling asleep.
I think I'm I'm tired at to laugh. When you said,
like falling asleep, I'm like, what what do they what
did they pull a bear?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
It'sing to sleep in meditation, not in the home blunch.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I was gonna say, hold on a second, they're falling asleep,
We're gonna have a somebody like ppsicles going on in that.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, that's a dangerous scenario. Don't do that.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, you know, I like I like that you say
meditation because that TG coming up a lot lately and
a lot of the conversations have especially with people have
anxiety though it actually helps focus you better. You know,
when you practice meditation and you don't have to spend
a lot of time, like you know, five ten minutes
a day, just start doing it a little by little
and it helps recenter your thought process and stuff like that,

(07:46):
and you know, and it's it's great because that's all
you're doing, is you're just meditating. You don't have to
take any medications, you don't have to do all these
other weird things, you know. And I think people overlook
the general idea of just meditational because they always thinking like, oh, well,
I'm to be like act real weird afterwards. Or it's
like yo yoga gets brought up too, and it's like,
I think y'all sleeping on yoga. Man. Let me tell

(08:06):
you if you ever try to do yoga fort like
something that's not high impact, let me tell you you
were sweating up a storm to.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Totally. It's all about just training your mind at the
end of the day to know what to expect and
to know how you'll make it out on the other side.
Like no different than meditation. You know, you're really just
trying to give yourself something to focus on or let
those thoughts go for a period of time, and it's
the same in the cold water. You know, you can

(08:39):
think entirely about how much you hate that water, or
you can connect to something that's on the other side
of that, a bigger why of what would inspire you
to want to feel differently, and then you give it
to go from there.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, exactly too, you know, And you know, which leads
me to my question about like cold therapy, why is
it so expected for mental wellness? Yeah, what are the
properties that people are probably missing when they hear the
words cold plunge?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So what happens? I'm not a doctor, so I'll preface
it with that and also just say, like, I think
it's helpful to understand like what's happening in your body
when you cold plunge, just so that you can have
that understanding of why it's impactful. So, your nervous system
has two ways of operating, right, You've got your rest
and digest when you're calm and at ease, and then

(09:26):
you've got fighter flight that you're literally preparing for the worst.
And so in that fight or flight state, why it's
so impactful with cold plunging is you're intentionally putting your
body into that state but for a super short amount
of time. So for myself, I realized once I started

(09:46):
cold plunging that my body had been in fight or
flight for a very long time, Like I didn't know
how it felt to not be in that anymore. And
so whether that's you or you're somebody who has a
wider range of coming in and out of that throughout
the day, which most of us do, the active intentionally
putting your body in fight or flight but for that

(10:08):
fraction of time and then allowing it to recover is
why your body gets that reset, why it literally transforms
your energy. So the thing is that that's like one
little tiny part of your day, right, and then that
act of honestly like just being so strong in your

(10:29):
mind and your body having that thought process for the
cold plunge then automatically like trickles down to everything else
that you do. As you keep doing it, You're like, Okay,
well I did this super hard thing in the morning.
Now my body literally knows how to respond to other
hard things that come my way throughout the whole day.
So I'm happy to talk like more science as far

(10:52):
as like the different you know, hormones and things like
that that are affected in it too, Because.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
No, right ahead, please, I'm intrigued to you at this point,
not me hooked. I want to know more.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Have you tried it, by the way, just out of curiosity.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I've never done it, but I've sat in some cold
water before.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I mean, yeah, Well, I think the two chemicals that
are two hormones in your body that are the biggest
ones that I think about that really change how you
feel are your dopamine and your cortisol. So dopamine is
what makes you feel good, makes you feel happy. We
can get that from looking at our phone for like

(11:31):
a really quick spike of dopamine. We can, you know,
put stuff in a shopping cart and feel good for
a second and then it goes away. But in cold plunging,
it's been proven that your dopamine can go up and
increase up to two hundred and fifty percent by cold plunging.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
So when I.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
First started, that was really what I noticed the most
was I literally was like, oh my gosh, I'm smiling
so much more like I feel happy. I just feel
really good and so and that is sustained. Is the
other thing to think about there. So it's not just
it spikes up, it goes down, you have you feel

(12:09):
good for a second and it's gone. It Really it's
a slow trickle down from that spike. So that is
a really impactful piece. And then coupled with that is
that cold therapy will also reduce your cortisol. So cortisol
is stress and that is obviously chronic and pervasive in

(12:30):
our culture and just life today. So we all need
ways to balance out our cortisol and to not let
that run is rampant. So if in you know, a
one minute plunge, you can drop your cortisol, you can
increase your dopamine, You're going to feel pretty good.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean. One minute data. You know,
that's just like asking people you don't have one minute
day to try this and do that, you know, And
it sounds like the benefits are amazing, especially stress and
everything you know, everyday life and especially what you've dealt with,
you know, having a little one that had mental issues,
so you had that on top of being not to
mention they're a little kid, you know, and you know kids,

(13:10):
kids sometimes can be frustrating, they do things, you know,
and then you have your own issues, So now we're
really just snowballing all this together for it to just
kind of wash away after one minute, you know, a
little bit of it goes down. It's incredible, though it
sounds like something everybody should be trying. I don't understand
why people are so resistant to trying it, though it's
really interesting.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I find it fascinating because I don't think I've spoken
to anyone who's like, I love cold water, Like I'm
super into that idea, I'm going to give it a try,
like it just doesn't happen. So I've just gotten used
to that, and I think there's a lot of people
that are curious. But like I said, that barrier of
resistance is high, so something we could kind of like

(13:52):
talk about is also like I think again, in our culture,
it can tend to be like very black or white,
like you either are into it and you're super intense
or you're not at all. And I think that's what
makes it feel kind of unachievable and daunting. But like,
what if you just did it for ten seconds, What
if you just turned your water cold at the end

(14:14):
of the shower for twenty seconds, Like all of that
is actually cold therapy, so you can start really small
in a lot of different ways. And so I think
that also hopefully just sparks some curiosity for people too
where it's like it feels totally unachievable to think of
like sitting in an actual body of ice water like

(14:37):
a super elite athlete, Like that's not me. That doesn't
feel like it's going to happen. But I can imagine
doing you know, maybe sixty degree water for thirty seconds,
Like that feels doable. So that's where I started from,
was like, I'm not going to make it as cold
as I possibly can. I'm just going to play around

(14:58):
with the time I'm in it and the temperature that
it is and be able to kind of find what
works for my body, because I do think that it
is a very personal experience what works for one person
versus another.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I was going to ask you that, like when
it comes to temper wise, is there a certain is
there a different in the temperature, like like the lower
you go, is there more is there more dopamine basically
released from that or is it just it just kind
of go based on what your comfort level is.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's a little bit of everything. It's a mix of
all of the things. So now I have my cold
Plunge at home right now that is sadly not the
chill pod yet but will be it. So I can
set the temperature to whatever I want. And so that's
given me flexibility to play around with that. And here's
what I've found. So I can only speak from my experience,

(15:47):
but it's not always that colder is better. So colder
is going to be really taxing on your body if
you have a lot of other stresses in your life
and you have a lot that you're managing, that might
be more than your body can handle. And that's what
I found for myself, Like I love a good challenge,

(16:07):
so I was like, oh, I'll totally crank it down
to forty and see how that goes. And I was like, no,
this is not it. And so I didn't feel as
good after that, and my recovery was too long. So
to me, that's the that's where you can kind of gauge, Okay,
that was too far, So how do we kind of
go and just play around with what it can be instead.

(16:28):
So it's definitely not like colder and longer is better.
You very much want to take into account. How is
your body recovering from that? Are your feet cold for hours?
You've gone too far? Are you know? Things like that
you can have. You'll get that feedback from your body.
And I think that's why it's so powerful, is like

(16:49):
your body is sending you those messages, and in that moment,
you're very present. It's cold, you're not you know, it's
not a comfortable, cozy thing to be in. So the
more you start that conversation kind of with your own
intuition again, that plays out into the day too.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, you know that makes sense. It's interesting though, because
you're trying to tell me it's not the ice fucking
challenge and I shove it a bunch of cold water.
I could just imagine somebody like, well, you know, Chris
told me go play in the cold water. I'm like,
I don't think that's what she told you. But you
get emails to tell me, well, Chris, I want to
jump to thirty degree water. You're like, are you out

(17:28):
of your mind?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I did not tell you had to do that. I
never said that.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
She's like, I didn't tell you to do that. I
simply said just what you can handle that decided to
go polar bear plunging, you know exactly, things like that.
So it's great though, So the chill pod. Okay, so
now that you've done I you did the cold plunge.
At first you were hesitant. How did the chill pod
come to come to fruishing basically? How did you come

(17:53):
up with the idea? Was it just somebody like, hey, listen, now,
I think everybody else is gonna be able to do
this in their own homes.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
It really it was the idea literally was born from
sitting in my trough and imagining how could I was like,
this is so impactful. I have to get this to
more people. I have to be able to make this
more appealing and to really like shorten that bridge of resistance.
And so I thought about what that would be for me,

(18:21):
and so I thought about, okay, well, I want it
to be the most. I wanted to be comfortable. I
want it to be as comfortable as it can be
when you're when you're in cold water, right, Like, I
want my body to feel held and safe. I want
to feel like I have the opportunity to really like
connect with myself, to really have that like almost spiritual experience.

(18:46):
And I wanted it to be beautiful at the end
of the day, like a horse trough doesn't make you
feel special. I don't know what the word is, like,
it's just very functional. It's fine, but also so I
wanted it to be beautiful so it would uplift your
space and encourage you to want to be there, and

(19:07):
also make it easy, because again, we all have very
busy lives. A lot of you know, daily life is busy,
So how can you make it literally seamless for yourself.
That the water's the temperature you expect, it's always clean,
it's all of these things so that literally when you
know you have a chance to go pop in, it's

(19:29):
there and ready for you. Because if you have played
around with like a little DIY model like my horse trough,
it's actually surprising how much time and effort that takes.
It took a ton of time, especially in the summer
months when the hose water is warmer and you have
to make more ice. And I was literally using like

(19:49):
my kid's storage bins to make ice that was big
enough that it would melt and make it cold. And
I took an entire freezer to do it, Like it
was a whole thing, and I would slop water across
the house trying to get it to there. It was
not pretty. But you know it's those things where I
was like, our time is so valuable. How can you
feel like this is everything's been taken care of for

(20:12):
you and you can just hop in, be there, have
that moment for yourself and come back out. And that's
how you make it this ritual that you look forward
to instead of something that you have to do.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Or you dread, yeah, you know, or make it like
a routine, you know, make it a part of your day, like, hey,
spend them in in there, you get up, take a
shower or whatever, you know, kind of like you get
them just kind of make self care. And I think
that's the one thing people don't talk about enough is
self care itself. You know. It's like like we don't
put ourselves first enough. Like a lot of people feel like,
oh I'm being selfish. No no, no, no, no. Self

(20:45):
care should be your top priority always. Like I tell
people the same thing, even people I work with now,
just like I tell them the same thing. Listen, you
have to put yourself first always, like don't don't if
anything else weigh you down, Oh what if I don't
want to leave you guys, doesn't matter at the end
of the day. Your self care should be the number
one thing that you worry about first and everybody else
that follows you. Yeah, you know. And it's hard for

(21:07):
people to accept that because they're always like kind of people, please,
or they're like, oh, I don't have time. You don't
have time to do like this one simple heck, come
on now, get out of here for a minute of
your day. Man, you gotta go drive to the drive through,
go spend five minutes to wait for your you know
whatever you're waiting for there, But you ain't got a
minute to do a cold punch real quick and make
yourself in a better mood all day.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Come on now, Yeah, exactly. And I think it's that
mindset shift of like, I only have two minutes, that's
all I have to Two minutes is enough. Two minutes
is enough to give myself that self care. And if
you can start from a place like that that you
feel really instant transformation and something different within yourself, it's

(21:47):
going to parlay into creating more of those self care
moments throughout the day because you've already like nurtured that
within yourself.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, definitely, you know, and I think that's the promise.
A lot of people to alays have excuses. They come
up for reasons why they can't do it, and it's like,
just stop making excuses and just do it, you know,
see see the properties and the benefits that you you know,
like you said, you know, just give it a shot.
You know, once you try it, you'll be hooked. That's it.
You're like, oh man, this is great. I love it,
love I feel better. And all you're doing is you're

(22:17):
doing a cold plint. You and I didn't do anything.
I didn't take any weird pills. You're not going to
do anything, do any weird injection type things. You're doing
something that's basically just water, using just natural water to
feel better every single day.

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Speaker 3 (23:12):
You get your podcasts. I know, it's it's pretty wild,
it almost. I think a lot of times, you know,
people say like, well, if you could wave a magic
wand and you could balance your hormones and sleep better
and have your mind be clear and focused, like and

(23:32):
it would have zero side effects, would you do it?
And then you're like, well, go cold punch. That's it.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
So I'll camera here. I have my TikTok live going.
Someone just commented live they say cold plunges are the
real deal, and it's like, yeah, that's what we're talking
about right now. Definitely, That's what that's what Chris is about.
She's got the Chill Pod. So so let me let
me ask you this question. When you were trying to
propose this to people, did you get weird looks? Like
you know, because I get people like you're trying to

(24:00):
explains to me, Hey, listen, all you're doing is you're
taking a cold plunge and they just look at it.
You like, huh, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, I mean the doubt is definitely more. People will
doubt it or question it or be like good for you,
not for me all the time, and so you just
kind of get used to that and you're like, well,
if you're curious about it, like let me know, and
I'm happy to help you. And so I've developed a

(24:27):
pretty thick skin when it comes to that because I'm like, someday,
I think it's still it's still fringe enough that like
it's definitely not the masses that are doing it. But
that's my hope is where it goes is you know,
for so long it's been this thing that you know,
elite performers are the ones that are doing this and

(24:47):
have forever. And people also think of it as a
fad because they're like, oh, you know, people are just
talking about it, it's going to fade away. I'm like,
I'm actually, it's an ancient practice. It's been around for
hundreds of years, just cold water. We've just modernized it
and made it you know, fit today's world and what

(25:09):
is helpful and supportive for us. So, yeah, it's funny.
There's a lot of resistance out there, but I really
believe that, you know, in the next five or ten years,
it's going to be mainstream, and I think people are
going to realize that there's so much power in these
alternative practices that come from nature, connect us back to

(25:29):
nature and allow us to feel good with no side effects.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Okay, well let me go to me just comments something
really quick, Chris. He says, I do thirty second water
in my shower, which Chris said that it's technically doing
the same thing. Actually it sucks, but during the level
energy you get it after its amazing. See right there,
that's exactly what she's saying. It's like, you know, even
in the shower, chrisy we mentioned around in case you
missed the earlier part of this conversation, Chris had mentioned
she said, even if you do in the shower, last
twenty seconds through your shower turned cold, man, and just

(25:57):
get that rush energy that comes afterwards. You know, it's
like doing the same things what she's talking about, just
the cold plunch. Now I'm waiting to see if they
show up in like the gyms and everything too, because
that's when you know you really want because you have
all the different levels of athletes and all the different
people are in there. Weightlifters, I feel like would be
great for cold plunging too, after all the hard, intense
workouts are doing stuff like that. So I think it'll

(26:19):
be an interesting thing when it starts showing up, you know,
because there's so many different things out there. People always hesitant,
you know, and people always have jokes about cold plunging,
and yeah, you know, and I'm sure you've heard them
all by now.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
But you're totally right when it comes to you know,
mainstream fitness places like your gyms and things like that.
I hear over and over again that businesses are focused
on recovery now. That really is where they're spending their
focus and their energy and resources now too, Because we
all know the things we need to do to move

(26:52):
like these are those are very mainstream. We know that,
but you know, there's a lot of different opportunities in
the recovery space that are just becoming more prevalent, and
so I think that makes it really exciting too. And
I love, just like the person just said, they're cold shower.
The thing is you can start it anywhere. You do
not have to go even by a trough you have

(27:14):
everyone has access to water to be able to try it.
I will say in full transparency, I think the cold
shower is a thousand times worse than an actual cold plunge.
I hate it. I hate ending my shower cold. So
I think that is like a badass move if you're actually.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
To do that, right, I do not like it. Oh no,
I agree. Listen. I grew up in the cold weather.
I'm from the Chicago Land area, man in every I
live in Texas now. Yeah, and like they're cold versus
our cold. I'm like, yeah, very different. Oh we're cold.
I'm like, y'all, y'all have no idea what cold distrust me.
You're like negative fifteen degrees and the windshill is hitting you. Oh,
let me tell you. That's a whole no level of

(27:51):
cold and things like that.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, you would not last in that cold.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's like, oh god, no, please, don't you know. And
it's it's funny though, but it's true. Though. Think about it,
because if once you get into a gym, that's it.
You've already won with everybody else every trying to do
all those recovery things, and like like plant Fitness I
go to has that lend machine where it vibrates and
everything for like you're after seems like after you know
what I'm saying. Or they have the hydro massagers and
things that I'm waiting to see him and start offfering

(28:17):
cold plunging in there too. I'm like, hey, there we go.
Now we got somewhere.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yep, totally, totally.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
That's so cool though, So okay, So with the chill
pod though, what is the plan for marketing wise? Like you,
I know you're telling people about this, Are you doing
a lot of science bace facts and things like that
and getting a lot of you know, because obviously when
it comes to stuff, you're gonna have to do that anyways,
because people are gonna be like, well, where's your proof?
Where's your proof that? Huh, where's your proof? Because you
know that's the first thing they're gonna say, show me
some proof.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah exactly. I mean I'm really grateful that for the
timing of which we're coming to market versus if this said,
if I tried this idea five years ago, I think
the beauty of it is the science and research is
now becoming more available for that, where I don't think
that existed a while ago, so or it was just

(29:06):
it was not a lot of it, so it seemed
like it was more questioned then. So I think now
from a science perspective, you know, there's a lot of
data to back up the fact that this really is
a proven tool to reset your nervous system and help
you manage stress better, which you know, if you take

(29:28):
all the other benefits and stuff aside, imagine if you
could just reset your stress, like you could literally leave
it behind and start fresh. I don't know another practice
you can do that in. And so yeah, from a
marketing perspective, I'm really just trying to lean into that
human experience and blend science and research with how do

(29:51):
you actually feel afterwards? You know, because I've been doing
this for two years now, I have a lot of
data on my side, and thankfully my team mainly all
our cold Plunger too, so you know, we've got those
stories to share, and I think the more that we're
open with our own stories and journeys, it just inspires
people to try that too.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think that you made a great point there when
you said you're sharing people's stories, because I think the
more real it gets for people, real people sharing stories
and different testimonials, it'll build more traction versus just you
and I talking about it. Now you have other people
that are trying it and they're like, oh, well okay,
and you know, we all have that mob like mentality
because when one person does it okay, you know that

(30:33):
whole you know, whole scenario. Your mom used to tell you,
listen with everybody's going to jump off bridge, would you
go do?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Apparently they are. They're all going cold plunge, and I'm
going with them there, I go. So And I love
the alternative mediciness in space. I think it's growing fast,
you know, with all these different things people could do,
you know, like energy healing and then yeah, oh what
is it? The the psychedelic one is really interesting too.
I have a person it came out. I was talking
about it, you know, yeah, like micro dosing certain ones,

(31:00):
you know, and there's different levels and you know, and
it's great to see because with pharmaceuticals a lot of
times you always get those side effects and if you
really listen to the commercials they start they get real
low and it says some side effects. I think the
volume drops instantly. I wonder why, because they're listing things
that you're already trying to fix. Well, some hearing voices

(31:20):
aren't there. You're like, isn't this technically why I'm taking
an anti psychoticist take some of these problems, but now
you're creating more. It's like, what I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
My hope is that this alternative wellness space just continues
to evolve. And I mean I've I'm open to anything.
I'll try anything one time for the most part, and
I totally agree the more that we, you know, just
explore our own energy. And I have explored a lot
of different healers in that space, and I mean, all

(31:51):
of those things will even if you hate it, great,
at least you tried it, and you probably don't have
a whole lot to lose by that. But you know,
when you kind of venture off the norm, sometimes it's
in those spaces that you really find what you've actually
been looking for. So I will always encourage people to
just have curiosity around what's out there, because there's a

(32:13):
whole lot more out there than you may.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Realize exactly, you know, and That's the great thing about
this show too, is I bring up different people and
I don't stir away from any conversations, you know, even
even alternative medicine, because I think it's so interesting, especially
energy healing, because I'm starting to learn more about myself
as I go, and I'm very I'm very much an
an EmPATH, you know, and then I'm really hyper sensitive

(32:37):
to energy, like I can send certain things around me,
and I've never really been able to explain it. So
I started doing this and I started beating new people,
and then I started finding out that whoa hold on,
Now this starts making sense, is that I'm picking up
on these different energies of people. Yeah, you know, And
that's the great thing with the Alternative Space is like
it's not traditional therapy, and I think that's what scares
a lot of people. Yeah, oh well I don't want

(32:58):
to do therapy or I don't want to talk about feeling. Okay, Well,
then how about go talk to Chris or talk to
you know, Melanie or these other people that I bring
in here, you know, come talk to one of them.
You know, maybe it's something that you'll be interested in
there doing. If it's something that resonates, but you go
check it out. What do you got to lose if
it doesn't work for you? Okay, well all right, no,
no sweat off your back. But don't be scared to
try things. I think, you know, that's just I think

(33:20):
that we live in too much fear of trying things
and we're afraid it's not going to work. And it's
just like therapy. Sometimes you got to go through five
or six therapists to find somebody that you click with
or somebody agrees to you. You'll have the same you know,
if you all fit in the same category together. And
it's like, you know, they have no problem with it. Listen,
they understand like if you don't work for them, you're gone.
That's okay. Well that their fons are not hurt. Same

(33:42):
thing with cold plunging. If cold plunging isn't for you, okay,
well that's cool. Don't no sweat to fight back. It's
all right. At least you gave it a shot. You
know what, what more can you lose at that point?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Exactly exactly, And I think you have a really good
point to you know, I think so many of us
are a lot more and are ggetically sensitive then we
realized because it just was something that was untalked about.
Like my parents literally to this day, they would be like,
I have no idea what you're talking about. But you know,

(34:13):
I think those of us, I think we are increasingly
more aware and sensitive, and so when you think about
it from that perspective, it can give you some compassion
for yourself too, to be like, of course I am
anxious because I'm literally absorbing all of these things around
me all day long, but I don't have words to
really put to it and understand how and what I

(34:35):
can do to change it. And so you know, when
you're able to just have some playfulness around what could
be supportive and just be able to try, I've always
been pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I've been surprised to you. Like I said, I started
going through and interviewing more people and learning more about
the alternative healing space. I think I like it more
than traditional routes. And don't get me wrong, I still
like to invite those, but I'm always excited every time
I see somebody doing something new that's that's not the
normality of what everyone else is doing. Like you know, yeah,
the traditional talk therapy is great for some people. But

(35:10):
I think these alternative ones are getting even stronger because
it's it's helping people without involving drugs, because I think
that's the one fear people have. It's like, oh, well,
I don't be putting pills. Like I think there's more
that goes to it than you realize with all that statement.
But all right, you know, okay, I get I understand
and validate your your concerns. So and a lot of

(35:31):
times in conversation I'll bring up different people. I'll be like, yeah, hey, listen,
I just talked to somebody. They do psychedelics and they
do great things of mushrooms. Hey, how but check them out?
Or you know, hey, listen, I got a person I
just interview named Chris. You know she's doing these great
things with cold plunging. Maybe you should try that and
see what you think. You know. And it's great that
the more people I network with, the more people I
can share it out to other people and things like that,

(35:53):
and it makes that space for me more because I'm
just start talking to one person, and you know, we
all know how word of mouth goes. You know, one
person that they tell five even then so on. So
on from there, you know. And and it's so great
because it starts the conversation about like, okay, well what
if that's for me too, you know, And it's it's
it's so much fun. I enjoy it. I'm just I
love learning new stuff. It's great though, you know. And

(36:15):
I might have to try and gold cold plunging, you
never know.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I think you should try it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I'm might have to try it everybody, now, you know,
I might have to do it. I'm have to for
you and my wife at the time. Listen if you're
be screaming in the shower not dying to leave me
in there. So but it's so cool though, I mean,
as it starts, as your dream starts building, I know,
it's got to be exciting. You know. You're just so excited.

(36:42):
You know, you're ready to see this thing goes, you know,
and down the road. I just see for seeing it
becoming a bigger thing. And like I said, if you
can get into certain spaces, I think you've already won
right there. You know. Now the plan for the chill
pod is it going to be like an in home
unit or is it mostly meant for scale for businesses?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah? Great question. No, I made it so it could
be accessible for businesses as well as residential, So I
wanted it to be something that could really be supportive
in either of those spaces. In fact, so much so
we like rescale it so that it could fit through
any doorway because we shouldn't want that to be an issue.

(37:19):
Things like that, Like, we really took a lot of
things into account. Yeah, we're working really hard to bring
these into businesses all over, just trying to spread that
awareness because I do get that there can be you know,
it can be a big commitment of bringing that to
your house. So maybe you want to try it at

(37:39):
your local gym first and be like, oh, yeah, this
is it. I love it now. I feel good bringing
this into my home and I can see it. I
mean it really is beautiful, So I can see it
in people's backyards. I could see it in a really
good size like primary bathroom, it could be in you know,
your home gym, all those kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
So you're trying to say it's to do hot tub.
I got you. Okay, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh I didn't tell you it's also a hot tub
though it actually does go hot as well, So yeah
it does. Because I feel like in a lot of relationships,
or even just a single person, might be some days
they want hot and some days they want cold, so
we'll give you both.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
True, that's true, A very good point. Well that's interesting though.
It goes warm as well too, because you know that's
good for stretch, for your muscly stuff like that and
things like that. So she's not suggesting go boil yourself
like a lobster now, because you know, you feel like
you have to tell people these things because if not
to thing, Well, they didn't tell me that. I'm like, well,
I didn't think they had to tell you that.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Okay, Sometimes you're always surprised.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I think I'm really not too surprised that they're working
in customer service for a long time. The things people
tell you, it's just interesting. Well I didn't know that,
you know, especially when it comes to like the self
checkout that makes me laugh the hardest. It's like, oh it,
it doesn't take cash, even though it just told you
on the screen right here it says you have to

(39:08):
press okay to get it to do it. But you're like,
it doesn't take cash, no, full, it don't take caresh.
What do you mean? Oh, my god, dude, I could
just imagine the questions you get from people too.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah, Chris is like, okay here, but yes, in general
we get interesting things.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Oh I bet I bet I got That's hilarious though.
I mean I could just see them, you know, and
it's it's funny because like they're like, oh, what about that?
You know, I want to pull a bear plunge. It's
not that is man, it's one minute a day. Calm
down here, sell down. You know, you know you may
need to. You made me hire the next Billy Mace
to sell this thing for. You never know. A shark tank,

(39:51):
you never know. Listen, you never know. You some shark
tank one day and you're like like, here's Chris Rice.
Like Chris, I'm like, I know her. It's so cool though, Chris,
that's so awesome to see. So do you have a
plan for the future for it? Obviously? Are you looking
to like have your own cold spas open up kind
of thing like that? Maybe is an idea going down

(40:13):
the road.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
We really have this vision of being honestly like a
big wellness brand, So they'll be the cold Plunges are
the start of it, and then there'll be a lot
of other products to support your overall holistic health.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
So are you hinting at some other items you may
have been working.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I am hinting at them, and so yeah, let's stay
tuned and right now what they are. But yes, the
cold Plunge is my passion and the start of it.
But it's definitely like I'm looking to be a big
player in the wellness space.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I like your big picture thought process. You're not just
sticking with the one. You have other plans down the road,
take span and I think that's where a lot of
people fail when it comes to these things. They don't
plan further outside the road. They're like, okay, so you
have this, so what what's your endgame plan? And you're like, well,
I've already got some other ideas down the road, and
that's already right there. You know, you're already you're going
somewhere because you're really looking at the bigger picture. You know,

(41:08):
the chill pod is just to start, but then there's
all these other extra things you can add into, enhance
it even further, and things like that, And I love it.
That's great that you have that vision because that means
that you know this isn't just going to be a
fad thing. This is going to be the game change
that a lot of people need.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
That's the hope. That's the hope. I'm all for just
increasing people's quality of life, giving people longevity, giving them
freedom to feel better, and at the root of it, like,
that's all I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
To do, right, definitely, So let me ask you a question, though,
mentally or physically, which is better? Do you feel like
it's more transformative for cold plunging? Which when you think
people benefit more mentally or physically?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I think, I hate to say, I think that's such
a personal question. So I think that everybody is going
to have their own version of that. So I'll even
say that in my own context, in my own home.
So for me, for sure, the mental benefits were the
far and above, like, oh wow, I didn't expect that,
And it was the gift I needed. For my husband,

(42:10):
He's had a lot of physical relief, he's had weight loss.
It's helped that's and then it also like it got
rid of chronic back pain. It also I think gave
him a boost of Okay, now I'm going to start
like exploring some different things in the health and wellness space,
start lifting more weights, doing things like that. So it's

(42:31):
like you can't almost foresee what the next the trickle
down of that'll be, but there's always one for somebody.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yes, and Chris, somebody had asked you a question, they said,
what about the Northern States, would the chill pot be
better indoors or built for outside cold climate weather?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Great question. I am in a Northern States too. I
am an Oregon so I always look at things through
the Oregon lens where we have like cold, rainy weather always.
So yes, it's meant to be really vable and be
able to be inside or out. You can have either one.
It's really just kind of dependent on what your space
is and how you want that to function for you.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That's I think that's a good,
really good question too to see. Yeah, you know, how
is it being built for that kind of stuff too,
because some of those meaning a hull cold that gets
out there. I mean, I don't know really, if.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's super cold, it doesn't have to work so hard.
And so the beauty is it's actually pretty, it's relatively light.
It's about one hundred and fifty pounds when it's all empty,
So like two people could very much move it. So
if you're like, Okay, in the summer, I want it outside,
but in the winter, I'm going to tuck it in
the garage so it's not so cold or whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, So it's portable enough that you can move around
where you need to see. Yeah, exactly, Like like a
hot tub's more stationary, exactly, the chill pod is actually
going to be the alternative to your hot tub because
it does both. Like you said, so, I think that's
really great though, and you're you're basically fixing that problem
people need. So Okay, well I don't have to, but
I have to leave this outside. No, they actually don't.

(44:04):
You well in the garage. You know, it's a great
selling point too. It's like, well, listen, if you don't
want to keep it on the porch and you want
to put it away, okay, here you go. You go,
one hundred fifty pounds. You about this thing in your garage,
no problem, and you know, moving out of the way
for people coming over, you know. There you go. Ideas
for the commercial, there you go. Right, that's so cool though,
I mean, that's that's really great that that that's coming

(44:26):
to fruition I'm excited because I like, I want to
definitely see it started showing up where I go a
lot of places like that because I think that more
people that try it or it's going to be so
great too.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
So awesome. Well I'll send you a picture so you
get a sneak peak too.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Heck, yes, that's what I'm talking to you, guys. I
won't show any of you all though, because it's a
sneak peak for me. So but anyways, so are you
doing like pre orders for the stuff now or how
how's that all that being rolled out? Is there a
timeline for it to be coming out or.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, there is, So the pre orders are going to
be late spring. So our website is up so you
can actually get some photos of it and be able
to see it. But the full Sight will roll out
probably in about a month or so, so that's coming soon.
But head over to the Chillpod dot co and you
can check out what we have there now and join

(45:18):
the list to be first to know when that pre
sale opens because it will be limited to.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
You heard her, guys, she said, head on over there.
It's a limited time sale. You don't want to miss
out on this. I don't want to hear you. I'll
be like, oh, what you know, buddy, Chris told you
right there. You know, Chris, let me ask you a question.
Though every guest on the show, I've been asking this
question lately. I've asked people, you know, if there's one
stigma about mental health you could break, what would it be.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
That you have to keep it to yourself. I really
believe there is so much power in sharing your story
and however you feel comfortable and okay with doing that.
And I think a lot of my anxiety came from
trying to figure it out myself and keep it in
and not burden other people with it and all of

(46:05):
those things. And once I started being open and sharing that,
everything changed my relationship with the with my own mental health,
with my daughters. That people need to hear your story,
and so you are given that for a reason, and
it can be a way to connect with other people,
to find support that you didn't even know was out there. Like,

(46:29):
it takes a lot of bravery to share it, but
I would always encourage people to do that.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I think that's absolutely true when you say it takes
a lot of bravery, because I get a lot of
people that come on the show. Beforehand they're like, well
I don't I'm nervous and everything else, And I said, listen,
the joys of being a good host is it you're
leading them through this. When things get rough, you got
to take over and kind of give them a second,
regroup and things like that. But you're right, Sophie could

(46:54):
be really powerful. We had a young lady on here
about a week or so ago named Whitney that came on,
and you should have seen the amazing responses. We had
people just blowing up the comment section for her, and
she made a really great statement, she said, my name
is Whitney and then start listening off for diagnosis and
things like that. So it inspired me to do my
own video and I said, my name is Pete. I

(47:16):
deal with anxiety. Anxiety doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't define me
as a person. And I think, if that's anything but
it takes away anything in this conversation, is that you know,
diagnosis doesn't have to own you. You just deal with it.
It's not something that labels you, identifies you or anything
that I deal with anxiety myself. I deal with depression,
you know, and I deal with ADHD you know. So

(47:36):
it's all these things I deal with, you know, I
don't let it define me as a person, you know.
And I think that's a lot of people need to do.
And I think you're right when you say a lot
of people need to talk about it. I think that
it's the hardest part is talking to people about the conversations,
you know. But there are some rough conversations in there
that we're actually doing a panel for one of them,
you know, and it has to do with unlive me.
I'm only saying that case I'm live and TikTok right now,

(47:58):
and TikTok doesn't like adult language, so I apologize if
it sounds a little weird, But you know, we are.
We're getting a group of people together and we're going
to have a conversation. So I'm hoping it's the first
of many. I've actually think I've got enough for two
panel sessions. Cool, and I think it's going to bring
a lot of eyes open to like what people really
think about it, you know, And anybody that's interested in
joining and wants to be a part of one of
the panels and things like that, let me know, because

(48:20):
I'm doing one for that. When doing one for men's
mental health and things like that, and we can do
other subjects too along the way if it gets enough
uproar of response, because I think that, you know, just
like Chris said, you know, talking about it is it's
more beneficial than people realize, you know, and then understanding
that you're not alone, like that's a great thing about this.
The show will connected with someone else that's going to
see this story and be like, hey, listen, I could

(48:41):
resonate with Whitney, or I can resonate with Chris. I can
resonate with all these other people and things like that too.
And Whitney she had the most viewership ever on the show.
She had ten active viewers and any given time she
set the record for it. And that there was another
young lady the week after I had on a Monday,
she had come in and at hearst she's real hesitant,
but they you could just watch her open up and

(49:01):
she became those bubbly person ever, and she deals with VPD,
you know, and she had so she tied it too.
She had ten active viewers as well. You just got ten.
I just kept I kept signaling to her how many
viewers kept showing up she could just see her lighting
up and she's watching people as this happened. So, you know,
it's so great to have you come and talk about
your own, you know, mental health things, and it's it's

(49:22):
great you're sharing that youmail your daughter had issues too,
because a lot of people don't even want to share
that kind of stuff. Like I deal with all these
other things like that, And I think if we start
having the conversation now, it'll be easier down the road
because then you'll find that other people that you don't
even know come and connect with you be like, hey, listen,
I deal with the same thing you know, and then
together we can build a stronger support network for each other.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Exactly. It takes a lot of bravery to say it,
but I think as soon as you start doing that,
like it becomes easier and easier, and it's just a
part of you, it's not all of you, and it
gives you, you know, I don't know, Like I look
at my daughter and how far she's kind of and
like now she wants to that passion is real. She

(50:04):
wants to go into the mental health space and pay
it forward. And she's like there's so many people that
have been amazing to me. I want to help others
who understand that too, So you know, you just don't
know where those like what looks like a challenge will
actually be such a gift in the end.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Well, listen, do you tell her to reach out? Because
I'd love to have her on the show if she
ever wants to come on and have a conversation, I
would definitely ever come on. The more voices we can
get into this topic, I think the better thing it is,
does she know what area she wants to get into
a by chance or she just kind of kind of
just going to kind of go jump in it generally
and just kind of decide from there. I mean, because
it's okay not to know right away what you want
to do.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Well, she's thirteen, so it does change, can it can change?
But she's really big on wanting to do exposure therapy
because she knows the benefits of that, and so she
really wants to help other people understand that and to
support people who are in that place because she's been
there and knows how it can be on the other

(51:00):
of it. So I hope she is.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
That's so awesome. That's great to see and the fact
that you know she does her own things. I think
it'll be easier for her to connect with people because
when you start, you know, realizing that you have more
like and another you guys are more like than you realize.
I think that's what connects people better, and things like that. Well, then,
you know, even if she is thirteen, she still has
a voice. And you know, if she ever would like
to come on here, I promise you it'll be great.

(51:25):
It'd be an interesting conversation to get her point of
view at agent.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
But like I said, though, it's like I said, anyway,
shout out to her. What's her name, by the way,
because I'll give a shout out right now.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Her name is Sophie.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Sophie. Listen, I'll tell you right now. My name's Pete.
I'm just wanted to say I'm very excited to see
where you go. I cannot wait to see the future
for you. You know, you may be thirteen, but let
me tell you, girl, you're on your way to learning
some very incredible things. You're going to be some credible
people on the way, and what your mom's doing is
making a game changer like you. I don't know if
you understand now, but down the road, you're going to

(51:57):
see some massive changes because mom didn't give up bond
it and she went for it.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Thank you so much. Those are very kind words.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
No, you're they're so awesome. I appreciate it. Like I said,
it was, it was great. So as we get rady
start wrapping up, did you want to plug some other
sites for people go? I know there's the Cold Plunge,
the Cold Pod. You already told me where to go
find that. Did you want to plug any other sites
from the checkout along the way where they could reach
out to you if they have any questions or things
like that.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Well you can certainly. We're active on Instagram primarily, so
if you want to check out the Chill POD's page,
you can go to at chillpod dot com or Instagram,
and then if you want to connect with me, I
do more of like founder story, daily plunging, wellness tips,
all that good stuff. So you're welcome to come follow
me at Chris Rice Wellness over on Instagram as well.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
There you go, guys, you know where to find her.
And I'm Pete. It's anxiety and pretty much everything. I'm
down X all the way down to TikTok I'm on
Spotify all the way down to iHeartRadio guys, so in
case you don't listen to YouTube, you can well listen
to it there. And as I always say, it costs nothing,
absolutely nothing. Be kind to somebody. One kind act you
can do, can say some life for hell, you can
make their day. I'm peaid for his anxiety saying off
saying hey, don't ask. Your day is today. That's how

(53:04):
you're about to help this today