What happens when you combine therapy, nutrition, physical health, and even bodybuilding to support mental wellness? In this episode of Prevention Over Prescription with Dr. K, Dr. K sits down with Christine Harrison, founder of Focus Forward Therapy Group, to explore how a boutique approach to mental health can create powerful, lasting change. Christine shares how foundational habits—eating well, sleeping, and moving regularly—impact therapy outcomes, especially for high achievers managing guilt, shame, and burnout. They dive into the influence of social media, the importance of goal setting, and how innovative treatments like ketamine therapy and bodybuilding can help individuals rebuild confidence and transform their lives.
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Let's get started, quodcast Nation. We have a very special episode.
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We have the one and only Christine Harrison from Focus
Forward Therapy Group. And as you heard in the intro,
I wanted her on the show because I feel like
she is an innovator in terms of the health of
wellness space. He lives what she preaches and she's really
serving our community at scale. So Christine, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Thanks for having me. I almost felt like I was
supposed to flex or something like, to live to preach.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
There's no reason not to. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah.
If casey guys don't appreciate this, Christine is jacked. And
we'll talk a little bit about MPAA at the end,
probably here, But tell us a little bit about your
Focus Forward Therapy group. What got you involved, what makes
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you unique? Tell us all the things Christine well.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That I love that you describe me as an innovator,
so I have. I started Focus for a therapy group
in twenty fourteen as a soul proprietor. Had this idea
I was going to go into private practice. I'd always
worked in healthcare, always in nonprofit. Started my side gig,
did my hustle like we do. Started to notice that
some of my approaches were really standing out, and I
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was having a hard time keeping up with caseload. Brought
in a couple of clinicians to join me. Twenty nineteen,
became large, scaled up. We have two locations, we're opening
our third, and I've really noticed that, you know, we're
doing things differently than other practices out there, and we
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talk about health and wellness and I love it, and
I love that it's contagious. I love that I'm on
here today talking about how to shift change the game.
We're we're not doing therapy in the back of an
office in some building with no name. I wanted street front,
front and center, big signage. We're rapist identists. What are
you coming for? You doing tutoring next door? Normalize Let's
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just make mental health and wellness a priority.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Amen. I love this destigmatizing mental health and once again
you're pioneering this approach of taking away the blinds here.
So what are some of the ideas principles that make
you guys unique.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I would say that our approaches are really eclectic. So
of course we can always talk about therapeutic modalities. You know,
we have our CBT, we have our psychodynamic, we have
our emotion focused and sure we follow the client we
figure out what they need. But in general, I think
this normalized process. So we really have this term that
I've coined, you know, boutique mental health, and it speaks
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volumes to the way that our locations look like. You know,
you've been to those like fancy dentists and you have
three kids, so you probably live with the dentist. And
I say, I said last night to my husband, nobody
texts me more than my dentist, you know, managing all
of the kids. But I go into these these dental
offices and they were beautiful, right, the waterfalls and the
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coffee and the beautiful cups, and I thought, that is
what mental health needs. And so we have this it's
really beautiful setup in our two clinics, normalized. Come in,
have a coffee, let's chat. Tag us on social media
take a selfie, right, So the idea of really encompassing
normalization in our practice is really important. We also, I
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would like to say, keep it really simple. You know,
I don't want to poo poo any of the clinicians
who work here, and we have a variety of different
folks who work here, but we really keep the principles
really simple. Your life is about eating, sleeping, and moving first,
as you know, this is what you preach, right, and
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if that foundation isn't solid, the rest of the human
house is shaky. Well, how am I going to manage,
you know, working on your anxiety with you or you know,
challenging a different situation unless we've really established eating, sleeping,
and moving. And so I would say that we keep
these basic principles really simple.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And love this because you don't like, I feel like
a lot of areas in healthcare, health awalleance, we silo ourselves.
And if you think about even anything from a mental
health perspective, I mean I recently had a psychiatrist on
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talking about how the impact of exercise on mental health
and showing like it's just as effective as as some
of the medications. Right. And so this is to me
a clear sign that lifestyle matters. So how does it? Yeah, exactly,
And so like Christine, so I walk into clinic, I'm
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coming in there. I'm concerned with my anxiety or I'm
concerned about my mood being depressed. Walk me through the process, like,
is there is there an intake form? Is there an
interview before we start coming with the recommendations, like, walk
me through what would it be like walking into your clinic.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I'm really glad that you asked that because a lot
of people sort of expect a very medical model, and
I except, you know, we'll talk about the ketamine later
because that is a little bit more medical because we're
doing medicine. But this isn't a medical model. This is
self referral email call. We have vidmin, we have email,
go on our Instagram. We'll reach back out to you
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and say here's our number, give us a call. We
meet with people on a very human level. And I
think fundamentally I believe and try to instill that within
all the clinicians here that there's nothing more important in
life than relationships. That relationship with the person you're seeing,
the relationship with yourself, your family, whatever that looks like.
So that's where we start meet them. They come in,
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we find out, Hey, what makes you tick, what do
you do, what do you do for work? Do you work,
who do you live with? What times you get up
in the morning, what times you go to bed? What
did you have for breakfast this morning? Right, give me,
give me a little history of what things were like.
We build that biopsychosocial in a very normalized approach. You know,
in the back end, we're doing all our clinical charting,
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checking our boxes of course, to make sure we're following
the principles of our college, and you know, all of
the things that we're supposed to be doing. But together
we come up with a plan that is going to
serve that individual based on what they've identified their needs
or maybe what we've picked up. So one of the
questions I might say is, when's the first time you
go outside in the morning. You know, we know that
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our circadian rhythm needs sunlight in the morning. Well, if
I'm hearing that people are sitting at their desk all day,
you know, not that I'm poo pooing coffee, but if
you're sitting in front of your desk all day and
you're just typing away and you haven't seen the sunlight.
Yeah right, How how are you going to get to
bed at night? How are you going to fall asleep?
So we took basic principles of eat, sleep, move. Okay,
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now let's talk about the anxiety. What kind of meds
are you on? What are your goals for? Meds? Has
you physical health? So we have a spectrum of folks
that we'll see who are coming in who you know,
aren't on any medication, and that's that's great. Maybe they
don't want to be, maybe they don't need to be.
Medication serves a purpose, as you know. But we also
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have a large population coming in with metabolic health syndrome
and who have either had sort of a lifetime on
medications or you know, multiple medications, and we're seeing this
deterioration in their physical health. Well, you know what goes
up anxiety, depression, social isolation, deep sadness. So back to
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the answer to your question is when people come in,
we form a relationship, because that is really important when
we were trying to support somebody, knowing that we're here
to serve them, we're here, we're available, and we're just
two people who are working together to improve your health.
That is a normalized approach to mental health, in my opinion,
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by very humble opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean, you live it and you're seeing the results,
so I think it's it's far from humble. So when
it comes to the each sleep move, right, yeah, each
sleep move, what are some of the principles, at least
from the let's start with eat, Like, what are some
of the concepts that you try and hone in on
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or trying to prove for your clients?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Mm hmm, you know, And it really depends on their
starting point. And I think because we all sort of
follow this, you know, fairly fluid model. Let's see somebody's
coming in and they're just not eating, They're just restricting eating,
whether that's intentional or not. But you see a lot
of people who who don't eat all day and then
just you know, kind of go through and eat through
the evening. So we might start with let's just talk
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about eating during the day. We might not necessarily focus
too much on what you're eating during the day, but
let's just try implementing that. So although these strategies I'm
talking to you about are very normalized eat sleep move,
we are applying a cognitive behavioral therapy approach to everything
that we do. Right, So whether that's through sleep training
or you know, changing your behaviors, your habits, it does
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need to start in those incremental steps right where you
have a clinician who's leading you along the way. That's
how you gain success. So if somebody's not eating, we're
just going to talk about eating.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
If somebody is eating and maybe their choices aren't ideal,
that's where we're going to see an increase in anxiety
and depression. So a lot of processed foods probably are
being consumed, perhaps you know, like a high amount of sugar,
artificial sweeteners, flavors, and what I see a lot is
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low protein intake and high refined carbs. Right, So you know,
I know that we're getting there's a lot of things
that are coming out around nutrition being purposeful within that
lifestyle medicine model. And I'm really excited this summer I'm
going to Harvard to to further expand some of my
training on the idea of this lifestyle medicine and food
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being medication. And you know, we need to start with
whole foods. I know you preach this all the time,
and I've heard with your intimitt and fasting and you know,
the protein powder, whatever it takes. I want to see
protein consumption throughout the day. And then we talk a
bit because again that CBT models getting put in there.
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So then I want to learn, well, what do they
know about protein? What do they think protein is? And
you know what I hear all the time peanut butter.
Peanut butter is a fat. We know it's delicious, but
it isn't really your primary source of protein. So there's
a little bit of psychowed that comes up where we
bring them into the mix that they can have some
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expertise and some role in developing this, because that's what's
going to stick. Right when you're trying to change behavior,
you need to not talk at them right, be able
to encourage it to way conversation through that relationship. And water,
Oh my gosh, nobody drinks water. Nobody drinks water. How
much water do you drink a day?
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How much do I do it? So? First thing in
the morning, I have almost the leader, just like I
just took my analogy and I'll just put that down
just to give me a good start to the day.
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And then it depends how active anyone, I'd say, anyone
from to the four leaders of Water, I'd say, sometimes
do you forget and.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Your business?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's that it's a busy day, Like I'm not thinking
most most days around four, especially most days I get
to work out in so I yeah, I think about that.
How about you, Christine?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I do four and a half leaders, and like you,
I've got about a leader and a half in before
seven o'clock. And I've you know, in adding electrolyte into
my morning has changed my life. But the big, the
big thing with water is I have a really hard
time in the therapeutic relationship with folks when their brains dehydrated.
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But then they're demanding so much of themselves and there's
so much self impost pressure around. Well, I should be better,
you know why am I still feeling like this, and
then we start to pick away at the eating and
the water consumption, we start to see those deficits. These
are just and I know everybody knows this. I know
they don't need to come here to pay me to
tell them this, But there is some thing about kind
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of hugging and wrapping around somebody to help support them
that makes that difference, right, and then we can start
implementing the other things. Well, what will be the barrier
in self care? There's a lot of guilt and shame,
you know, particularly with folks right now for whatever reason,
whether it's the state of the world or it's the
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state of the past five years of the world, it's
been a really challenging handful of years.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
For folks, So guilt and shame, like I think, I mean,
sometimes I need to think about this harder. I feel
like I look at those two different in two different ways.
But why guilt, Like I could see a lot of
anxiety right now as an example, but yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, and anxiety, remember, is sort of a symptom of
other things. So you know, when I say guilt and shame,
I do. I think a lot of it has to
do with unrealistic standards that are kind of being set
in the world. And a lot of that is, you know,
social media. When you you and I both know we
have a large social media presence, we see what's out there.
(16:13):
I appreciate Argy that you keep it real right, and
I think that's really important, and we try to do
the same thing with our social media. But that's not
what everybody's viewing. We can't control that. So when we
talk about you know, diet and lifestyle and mental health,
some of those questions that come up or I might
be like, how much time do you spend on social media?
(16:34):
What do you do right? Because we know are people
getting caught in that rabbit hole of scrolling and what's
happening and maybe the little psychod and dopamine hits, and
you know, how do we actually decrease that? And sometimes
we do dopamine training so cool. I don't know if
you've ever done it, but it's actually so effective for
your brain. So you know, the secret is that we're
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coming in and we're changing your brain, your neuropathways, neuroplasticity.
This is psychotherapy, but we're doing it in a really normalized,
everyday conversation. And that takes a particular skill set and
a particular way of approaching it, and in my opinion,
it's been very effective. Guilt and shame is just rampant
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for in many generations for different reasons. Maybe my generation
might have just been the way boomers were sorry, sorry mom,
the way boomers were raising us. And now I think
it's just the social media and the presence in the
world to sort of be perfect. And we're seeing this, right,
we're seeing kind of unraveling of people's mental health with
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these standards, unrealistic standards, both self imposed and real pressures.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's funny you said that. I was at a
dinner or sort of a dinner like appres psych I said, yesterday,
and I was a bit late and the people there
ordered some wanted to order some fries and some stuff
like that, and then they were like, oh, but doctor
(18:10):
K's coming. He's like he's going to be like, oh,
where's the protein. And then I'm like, is that you
guys really think that's strict? With the way I approached
things like you know, as you mentioned, I try and
keep it as real as possible and practical. But yeah,
out with your friends, of course you can have fries,
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court you have pizza. Of course you get to live.
But it just it just gave me reinforced that point Christine,
that we the messaging we got to be careful in general,
like about like how how much shame or guilty we
could be putting on people if they have this perception
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of this perfect perfection. And yeah, I just get it
really made me pause and think about some future content
ideas actually, and just saying like, hey man, I'm human too.
I just had I scuffed down a pizza today with beer,
and I, you know, don't feel great, but tomorrow I'm
going to be even better, you know, I mean, like, yeah,
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it was just an eye opening.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Love that macros don't always supersede memories, right, And so
I think it's really important to be mindful of your choice.
So we talk about mindfulness in therapy, right, mindfulness in
your life? What's important to you? Hey, are you looking
forward to going out on Friday with your friends, your girlfriends.
You can have a glass wine, great, enjoy it, but
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let's talk about during the week what does that look like?
And you know, we might talk about alcohol because alcohol
increases anxiety for you know, three days after consumption. So
if you're already an anxious person, consuming alcohol probably isn't
your best friend in that moment. And so we do
a lot of psychoed within our you know, motivational interviewing
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to see where they're at. So I think it's important
that you let people know you are human. I also
just want to touch on something. You can't make anybody
feel guilt and shame, right, those are their feelings and
that has to do with them and how they feel
about themselves. I think being a healthy role model for
people is important. I will say there's a category of
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folks that we see here that I think just the
nature of the atmosphere that we have. And we work
a lot with high functioning you know, executives, high functioning athletes,
and one of the really interesting things is that they
are human, but this pressure that nobody thinks they're human
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or normal actually really affects them. And so we see that,
you know, the high performers that walk in the room,
people notice them. The biggest indicator of being a high
performer or being somebody who's a leader is actually your
physical health, which is mind blowing, right because it actually
has nothing to do with what people think well.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I want you to say again, because this is the first
time I've heard this.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's anecdotal. But you walk in the room and if
you are commanding attention, people know who you are, people
that want are drawn to you. That is because of
your physical health. Because you may work in a job
where you are well paid, you're well respected, but if
your physical health isn't doing well, maybe you have metabolic syndrome,
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maybe you have unhealthy lifestyle, and that's a parent that
takes away from the amazing things that you do. Because
physical health, although there are some factors that are beyond
our control, right, but for the most part, you are
fully in control of your sleeping and you're eating, and
you're moving. And when you learn to master that, that
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shows in your health. You cannot buy that or fake it, right.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I love I love that show. Actually I might. Yeah, no,
I'm not steal that a little bit like I just
because there is something too, There is something to your
your physical health and how you're you're coming across like
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I got I think. I think when you're eating, while
when you're moving, while when you're you're feeling good, you're
you're you're you're restored you're sleeping while there is that
change in posture, there is that change in confidence, there
is that change in presence, and and it's contagious that
that charisma, that that presence is amplified. And I recently
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talked to somebody that it's funny they had an amazing
that an amazing event and achievement, and they weren't happy
with whether they were in terms of their health like
he or she was will say, you know, twenty thirty
forty pounds over where they wanted to be, and it
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took away from the experience. I mean, my personal opinion
was that they still had some great presence, but for
their personal experience, like they were in their heads thinking
about their appearance as opposed to just being present and
enjoying this amazing achievement. And actually it made me a
little bit of emotional when they were telling me this,
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because I'm like, you should be so proud of what
you accomplished, but it's so sad that you're in your
own head about how you look. And I'm not one
to say, like, hey man, we all got to be
pretty and shit, I mean, I'm anti dad bod, Like
I'll just be honest with you I'm like, it'd be
nice to have a movement for guys our age to say, like, yeah,
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let's get pretty, But it's not for the sake of
being pretty. It's the sake of being strong and confident.
But this long winded of me saying that, I think
you're onto something about about how we feel physically and
how that comes across in our confidence and how we
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execute as leaders.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Right. There's a neurological reason for that, which you probably
know about because you're very talented. But you've heard of
growth mindset, this term where you know, when we do
hard things, our brain goes, holy shit, I did that,
and then it goes, I can do something else, I
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can do this, I can do that. So I'm a
big fan of setting goals. So I love that you
just said there's a movement for guys my age to
be anti dad bad or to be in the best
shape when they start to meet milestones. This is where
psychotherapy comes in, Right, we start to set some goals,
move towards them when they meet those milestones. With each progression,
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there's a little check and a little neuro sequential change
that happens that tells you I can do it well.
That's where your shoulders come back and your head comes up.
So this is this is they go hand in hand
and that's why therapy is so effective for meeting your goals.
It's not therapy isn't just come in when you're not
feeling great, and it is for that, and come in
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when you're not feeling great, please please call me, will help.
But it's also when you're feeling great and you want
to move to that next level. Like you said, So
that person that you're talking about that didn't feel their
best self that does that hurts too. I feel that
that they weren't able to sit in their accomplishments because
of how they felt their exterior looked. Therapy supports that, right,
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supports it so that you learn to love yourself and
accept but also know that you can make changes and
empower them.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah. I just once again, christ Yeah, I just love
how it just how holistic the approach is, how you're
dealing with physical and the mental health side, and how
it's intertwined. I just I don't know. I just think
it's it's wonderful. And this is my bias. I know
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there's not the general public stuff, but we do have
a lot of high high achievers or want to be
athletes that listen to the show, Like, what are some
of the other reasons people come to see you? As
you mentioned, there are some kind of unique properties that
the high achievers have, so I'm curious to hear why
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they're drawn to you.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Well, I think maybe from one high achiever to another,
there is a bit of shared lived experience, and that
can be very helpful as well, because it does you know,
we don't all have to have all of the elements
to help support people, and that can be you know,
sometimes a barrier for folks, but one high achiever to
another that is helpful. Plus, there are particular traits that
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we're aware of within kind of that development of a human,
so we often will go back. So sometimes we might
do a real psychoanalytical dig and figure out what is
kind of that precursor, because we know the brain can
heal itself, right, it's plastic and it can be rewired
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and moved. So I'll often do like a little diagram like,
you know, here's your brain. Look at how professional this looks,
and here's your brain stem, and then we try to
figure out because high achievers love this stuff, it's great,
it makes sense, right. We love these visuals and metaphors.
So we'll talk about, well, when did you figure out
that you know, this is how you gained attention, or
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when did you get praise and we can go back
and heal that once we learn where the development was halted.
That's the really cool thing about the brain. High achievers
also love the environment. We know that goals is really important.
Accountability structure, right, And I would like to say that
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I'm so proud of the team that we have here
because they all live and breathe this model themselves, healthy lifestyle,
we sleep, we eat with intention. You're never going to
see a fuller fridge of people bringing their lunch, and
you know, when you work in an inter collaborative environment
that's not always the case. And so being able to
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model what you preach and I hope we don't preach.
I hope we educate and I hope we just share experiences.
But I think that goes a long way for high achievers.
We also are a little bit forward thinking. The name
kind of is a little catch unintentional in the treatments
that we offer because we were bringing in other things,
like I mentioned earlier, our Ketamine Medicine Clinic which opens
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next month. And you know, the idea is that not
everybody wants to take SSRIs, not everybody wants to have
medicaid onboard, and that is their perspective, or maybe they
want to move off of it. Ketamine is another option
that doesn't have those same physiological effects and or metabolic
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issues later on in life, and is very effective for
treatment because of what it does to the ripening of
that neuroplasticity. So there's a there's a medicine administration and
a therapy and they go together. At the same.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Time, we're listening to Prevention Over Prescription with Doctor K.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
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Speaker 2 (29:46):
A welcome back to Prevention Over Prescription with doctor K. Brilliant,
brilliant and so just a timestamp that we're interviewing doing
this interview mid April and so in May Christine that
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the Ketymine clinic will be open. And it sounds like
and I'm I've only superficially evaluated the ketamine and its
potential impact on I think it's depression and anxiety, but
from what I could see, it sounds like there's some
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promising results.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Mm hmmm. The results are immediate. So one of the
nice things about ketamine if you've ever had folks in
the r who you know, maybe are receiving an interveneous
ketamine for something that needs to be awake for, but
there is an immediate feeling of well being when in
particular when it administered in a psycholytic state, which is
what we are doing. We aren't doing psychedelic doses. We're
(30:53):
doing psycholytic So I just referred to it like the
baby dose. Right, you're cognizant, you're communicating, you feel like
a million bucks, You're like, shuld I feel amazing, And
it's not a euphoric state. It's this real feeling of
contentment well to anybody that has depression. To be able
to offer that to them, that makes me emotional to
(31:15):
know that we'll be able to offer that to folks
who have really been struggling. And then there's this neuroplasticity
effect that happens. It's ripening and it kind of happens
at about forty eight hours after the administration of the medicine,
where they come back and they have more psychotherapy where
we review some of those goals that we set together
(31:36):
and we further that process. So the leaps and bounds
they can make in therapy are shortened to you between
three days what you can do that could take may
I say even years. I've been working with people for
ten years, you know, and it's just amazing. I'm super excited. Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, this is what I mean. What drew me to you, Christine, Well,
we have a mutual friend and Jen Stewart that put
us together. But what what drew me to you was
the idea of of being forward thinking and and and
put moving the needle in terms of how we can
approach people's wellness because a lot of times we try
(32:20):
and look at look at things the same way that
they've done, uh, you know, and just try harder as
opposed to be looking at innovative and novel ways to
improve people's lives. So I really want to I want
to applaud you. I'm curious, is that without I mean
obviously given too much detail, is there a story that
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comes to mind that someone from Focused for Therapy group,
like a client that that has come in that that
has had like a result that that would be incredible, Like,
is there a story that comes to mind about any
of any of your clients.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
One of the really interesting stories that I have, I mean,
there's actually several like this. I could give you a
laundry list of these stories, and they have to do
with goal setting. That's where I really see the at
company with it, right, because I get to see them
from the beginning, and then I get to see them
(33:21):
at least to that first goal. It's not the end,
because there's no such thing. We're all circling the drain.
The end is when we're done. But when I see
the goal being met and then the tradectiary for further goals,
those are great stories. And I see a lot of
that when I see athletes or weekend athletes, or folks
who just want to make change in their life and
(33:41):
they set a goal. Hey I'm training for this or
I really want this promotion. And we start to intertwine
all of those pieces with cognitive behavioral therapy, whether that's
through you know, morning walks, increasing their water journaling, coming
in for therapy, you know, unpacking some of those boxes
that are cluttering up there. Then they meet their goal
(34:06):
and I see the big change that happens after. So
for some people. They you know, some of the not
so great things in that moment, but that were really
what they needed was some people change relationships. I've seen
people go back to school and say, you know what,
I'm going to go back and do my Masters of Nursing.
I can't tell you how many people have gone back
to school. People are setting new goals for work, changing careers.
(34:32):
Those are the big stories. Those are like the big
like holy heck moments that I find sit with me.
There's always the really amazing stories of people who have
made peace with something that's happened in the past, who
have made a connection within themselves why they feel or
why they're acting a certain way. We use the term
(34:54):
I don't know if we I don't know if you
use this term, but the term woke when people really
identify understanding themselves and understanding Hey, I can actually create
my own positive mood. I know how to do that
when I go for a walk in the morning, when
I get the sunlight in my eyes, and then I
come home, when I make a healthy breakfast and I
(35:16):
had to work, and I live with intention and purpose,
I feel connected to myself. This is where everything changes
in the brain right and that's when those connections start
to happen and then serotonin release. I mean, I'm making
it sound really simple, and my apologies to any scientists
(35:37):
or other coindations here who are like embarrassed by my explanations.
But those are the stories that really sit with me
and I remember those or an email from a parent saying,
you know, thank you for helping me organize this at
eight o'clock last night, which was an email I got
this morning that was just so lovely to get. So
those are the things that stick with me. It's not
(35:58):
that it's all about me, doctor K, but you know,
these are the things I remember.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's it's what keeps the engine running, y'all, Like it's
those testimonials. It's the lives that are being impacted. It's
why we do what we do, YO. So those are
important and how we feel allows us to show up
as our best our best self. So I wholeheartedly commend
(36:30):
I am. Before ending off, I do want to give
you a chance to plug some of the bodybuilding work
that you've been able to do because I think, once
again we were talking about how body, how your physical
health and your physical wellness translates into your mental health
into your leadership and so forth. So can you tell
(36:50):
us a little bit about mp A.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, absolutely So. NPA is a bodybuilding federation that is
hosting their first showing on tear May third down at
Laboth Theater at Ottawa U and I am the promoter
for that show. This opportunity is really important to me.
Came around from doctor Wendy doctor Kevin, who are out west,
who founded the federation twelve years ago. When they started
(37:16):
following me on social media. So here's another social media connection,
because you know, relationships happen online or in person. So
I had founded a nonprofit for women in bodybuilding in
twenty twenty. COVID was around. We all, I mean some
of us had a little bit more time on our hands,
and I decided to start up this nonprofit for women
(37:37):
in bodybuilding. I can tell you that that those couple
of years when we started that, and the change that
I saw on women impacted me so profoundly that it
really identified that even myself as an athlete, as a
competitive bodybuilder, that no longer did it for me. I
no longer was my own goals, no longer filled my cup.
(38:01):
I exclusively found a deep satisfaction in watching other people
fulfill their goals, and so that was a pivotal shift
for me. So when doctor Wendy and doctor Kevin approached
me and said, you know, we've been watching you, would
you promote our show here? You know, once we worked
out the logistics, which probably took about eight months, I
(38:22):
am fully on board with this show because I know
what goal setting can do. So this NPA is both
men and women amateur athletes who may want to go pro.
So we are affiliated with the Natural Olympia and we'll
be going to Vegas in November, which is very exciting.
Team Canada first time ever heading to Olympia, so this
is an opportunity. We have a transformation category, which is amazing.
(38:45):
So if you've had any transformation that can be anything,
that can be weight loss, that can be you've recovered
from surgery, from illness, and you want to come and
show your progress before and after, and it's in athletic
where that category you want you. We want to hear
your story, we want to hear what you've done. We
want to see you on stage because I know what
(39:06):
can happen when you meet a goal like that. I
almost want to say like, just trst me. I promise
you're going to feel so amazing after.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I love it, and I know, actually I would. I
don't know if she'd be good me telling, but I
have a friend named Kim that had a very significant
body transformation, and I mean, she's on social media flexing,
and I'm just so proud of how much she's transformed.
(39:39):
And I see how it's changed her life, going from
somebody that would be at risk of seeing me and
the icee you to somebody that is legit like completely
change the trajectory of her life. So I love this,
And this is why I mean, we're I don't know
if we were allowed to say this, but say this anyway.
(40:01):
That's why we're partnering with you in terms of God
and nutrition because we love that message being got as strong,
focusing on not only how your physical strength is being
amplified by how it affects your mental health and so forth.
So really really excited to be partnering with you, guys.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh yeah, And we're excited to partner with you. And
I think it is okay to say it because I
think in healthcare we need to be transparent and clear
and honest about our intentions and what we're doing. And
I am really proud to have this product created by
a physician to be able to be given to our
athletes and to everybody else, to the folks who aren't
eating all day and you, let alone consuming proteins. So
(40:48):
I'm really excited to have you in the clinic.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Amen. Amen, So Christine, this has been awesome. Where can
people learn more about you personally? Learn more about the clinic?
Where do we want to send people?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Focusforward Therapygroup dot com is our main website. You can
google boot Seek mental Health, you can google Autowa Ketamine,
you can google me. You're going to see a lot
of my bodybuilding information out there. I would encourage you
to go to our main website and we can direct
you from there. You can email us at info at
(41:26):
Focusfordtherapygroup dot com and you can also follow us on
social media on Instagram at Focus Forward Therapy Group.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Amazing. Christine, Once again, thank you so much for jumping
on the pod, and I know I only see success
amplifying for you.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
I appreciate you. Thank you for the opportunity to share
in their like minded thoughts around wellness.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
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healthcare system. A lot of it was focused on active treatment.
How do we make you get better when you're in
a QTE care hospital, when you're in the ICU, What
treatments are going to be effective and how can we
in fact we reduce suspending in terms of giving you
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cost effective ways that we could create a more lasting
and sustainable healthcare system. And during the pandemic, my eyes
opened up. My eyes opened up because we saw too
many people land in ICEE you and die that had
metabolic syndrome that was a primary driver of getting sick
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and dying of COVID during that time, and metabolic syndrome
being obese, type two diabetes, high blood pressure, discipid, your
high cholesterol. And in the traditional system, we don't learn
about reversing these things. We learned about treating them. And
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that was teaching me that you can indeed reverse type
two diabetes, you can indeed reverse some of these chronic conditions,
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in fact reverse metabolic syndrome. And so this was huge.
It was like, if we focus on prevention and learn
these things and in fact reverse some of these conditions,
not only are you reducing your risk of landing in ICU,
but you're resing we're reducing your risk of heart attacks, strokes, infections, cancer, uh, infertility,
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mental heal health conditions we're seeing typed to metabolic disease,
and so this to me was a clear sign we
need to focus on prevention. We need to teach ways
on how people can get healthy. And in fact, even
from the cost perspective, I often give this number of
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when I give talks, fifty three thousand dollars per COVID
admission that landed in Ice you. And if we put
even a dent in that, that's one patient. We put
even a dent into preventative side. Think about how many
lives could be saved, not only from the COVID but
from other conditions. And so this is my new mission, folks,
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what is the eighty twenty of getting people healthy? Most
effective ways that we talk about to get people healthy
so they avoid seeing someone like myself and Ice. You
get inundated with all this crap on ig you know
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all your social media, got to do carnival, gotta do keto,
gotta do veganism, you can only eat between two and
three pm Eastern Standard time, even if you're traveling. I
guess it's relentless amount of information you get inundated with,
and it's tough to know what's what. And so after
years of interviewing folks after doing my own research, got
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it into five key pillars, finding your purpose, nutrition, movement,
stress management, and connecting with others Like these principles are
the key driver in the book, and we distill them
into what are the what's going to be most impactful,
what's going to be most impactful for you? Instead of
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you trying to figure out all the handle all ten
different advices that you might hear throughout the book, I
just want you to pick on one or two things one
and two levers. It might be increasing your protein and take,
might be increasing your step count, might be pushing that weight,
which you all need to be doing. But it's got
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to be something because I'll tell you the system ain't working.
The system ain't working for the preventive house side. And yes,
if you come into the hospital and you have a
heart attack, you have an infection, we will treat you
and you will get the best care possible. But you
don't want to get to that state. I'm telling you,
I see it on a daily basis. What can we
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do to prevent you from landing and getting sick in
the intensive care you or any acute care setting. This
is what this book's all about and I'm proud of it.
What I'm most proud of is that I think if
you choose one or two of these things, it's going
to go a long way. Like first we talk about purpose,
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and this was an additional chapter I put in as
a result of talking to ben Azzati, and it really
came to mind from a personal experience I had when
I was close to burnout, when I was, you know,
mid pandemic, just took on the department head job and
(48:17):
we were getting inundated with these emissions that were COVID positive.
We were staffed for swabbing COVID positive as an omicron wave,
and I was getting buried online for my stance on schools,
personal attacks. All this and I was done, and I
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was eating poorly, I was not sleeping, I did not
feel like exercising. I don't even know if jims were open,
to be honest, but it was reconnected with my purpose
that pushed me through. And I think if a lot
of you guys can relate, if you're not aligned with
what d you, what makes you happy, what makes you
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you know, one of the most important parts of getting
your life together. And then, as many of us talked about,
when it comes to nutrition, we talk about protein intake.
When it comes to movement, walking, resistance training, When it
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comes to stress management, most important part is sleep, so
talking about how we can improve on our sleep. And
then lastly, how we connect with others, how we stack
that with exercise or any other thing, or in terms
of killing two birds with one stone. So, folks, I
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Let's get started, quodcast Nation. We have a very special episode.
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We have the one and only Christine Harrison from Focus
Forward Therapy Group. And as you heard in the intro,
I wanted her on the show because I feel like
she is an innovator in terms of the health of
wellness space. He lives what she preaches and she's really
serving our community at scale. So Christine, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Thanks for having me. I almost felt like I was
supposed to flex or something like, to live to preach.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
There's no reason not to. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah.
If casey guys don't appreciate this, Christine is jacked. And
we'll talk a little bit about MPAA at the end,
probably here, But tell us a little bit about your
Focus Forward Therapy group. What got you involved, what makes
(02:37):
you unique? Tell us all the things Christine well.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
That I love that you describe me as an innovator,
so I have. I started Focus for a therapy group
in twenty fourteen as a soul proprietor. Had this idea
I was going to go into private practice. I'd always
worked in healthcare, always in nonprofit. Started my side gig,
did my hustle like we do. Started to notice that
some of my approaches were really standing out, and I
(03:04):
was having a hard time keeping up with caseload. Brought
in a couple of clinicians to join me. Twenty nineteen,
became large, scaled up. We have two locations, we're opening
our third, and I've really noticed that, you know, we're
doing things differently than other practices out there, and we
(03:24):
talk about health and wellness and I love it, and
I love that it's contagious. I love that I'm on
here today talking about how to shift change the game.
We're we're not doing therapy in the back of an
office in some building with no name. I wanted street front,
front and center, big signage. We're rapist identists. What are
you coming for? You doing tutoring next door? Normalize Let's
(03:49):
just make mental health and wellness a priority.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Amen. I love this destigmatizing mental health and once again
you're pioneering this approach of taking away the blinds here.
So what are some of the ideas principles that make
you guys unique.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I would say that our approaches are really eclectic. So
of course we can always talk about therapeutic modalities. You know,
we have our CBT, we have our psychodynamic, we have
our emotion focused and sure we follow the client we
figure out what they need. But in general, I think
this normalized process. So we really have this term that
I've coined, you know, boutique mental health, and it speaks
(04:32):
volumes to the way that our locations look like. You know,
you've been to those like fancy dentists and you have
three kids, so you probably live with the dentist. And
I say, I said last night to my husband, nobody
texts me more than my dentist, you know, managing all
of the kids. But I go into these these dental
offices and they were beautiful, right, the waterfalls and the
(04:53):
coffee and the beautiful cups, and I thought, that is
what mental health needs. And so we have this it's
really beautiful setup in our two clinics, normalized. Come in,
have a coffee, let's chat. Tag us on social media
take a selfie, right, So the idea of really encompassing
normalization in our practice is really important. We also, I
(05:17):
would like to say, keep it really simple. You know,
I don't want to poo poo any of the clinicians
who work here, and we have a variety of different
folks who work here, but we really keep the principles
really simple. Your life is about eating, sleeping, and moving first,
as you know, this is what you preach, right, and
(05:39):
if that foundation isn't solid, the rest of the human
house is shaky. Well, how am I going to manage,
you know, working on your anxiety with you or you know,
challenging a different situation unless we've really established eating, sleeping,
and moving. And so I would say that we keep
these basic principles really simple.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And love this because you don't like, I feel like
a lot of areas in healthcare, health awalleance, we silo ourselves.
And if you think about even anything from a mental
health perspective, I mean I recently had a psychiatrist on
(06:20):
talking about how the impact of exercise on mental health
and showing like it's just as effective as as some
of the medications. Right. And so this is to me
a clear sign that lifestyle matters. So how does it? Yeah, exactly,
And so like Christine, so I walk into clinic, I'm
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coming in there. I'm concerned with my anxiety or I'm
concerned about my mood being depressed. Walk me through the process, like,
is there is there an intake form? Is there an
interview before we start coming with the recommendations, like, walk
me through what would it be like walking into your clinic.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I'm really glad that you asked that because a lot
of people sort of expect a very medical model, and
I except, you know, we'll talk about the ketamine later
because that is a little bit more medical because we're
doing medicine. But this isn't a medical model. This is
self referral email call. We have vidmin, we have email,
go on our Instagram. We'll reach back out to you
(07:27):
and say here's our number, give us a call. We
meet with people on a very human level. And I
think fundamentally I believe and try to instill that within
all the clinicians here that there's nothing more important in
life than relationships. That relationship with the person you're seeing,
the relationship with yourself, your family, whatever that looks like.
So that's where we start meet them. They come in,
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we find out, Hey, what makes you tick, what do
you do, what do you do for work? Do you work,
who do you live with? What times you get up
in the morning, what times you go to bed? What
did you have for breakfast this morning? Right, give me,
give me a little history of what things were like.
We build that biopsychosocial in a very normalized approach. You know,
in the back end, we're doing all our clinical charting,
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checking our boxes of course, to make sure we're following
the principles of our college, and you know, all of
the things that we're supposed to be doing. But together
we come up with a plan that is going to
serve that individual based on what they've identified their needs
or maybe what we've picked up. So one of the
questions I might say is, when's the first time you
go outside in the morning. You know, we know that
(08:33):
our circadian rhythm needs sunlight in the morning. Well, if
I'm hearing that people are sitting at their desk all day,
you know, not that I'm poo pooing coffee, but if
you're sitting in front of your desk all day and
you're just typing away and you haven't seen the sunlight.
Yeah right, How how are you going to get to
bed at night? How are you going to fall asleep?
So we took basic principles of eat, sleep, move. Okay,
(08:54):
now let's talk about the anxiety. What kind of meds
are you on? What are your goals for? Meds? Has
you physical health? So we have a spectrum of folks
that we'll see who are coming in who you know,
aren't on any medication, and that's that's great. Maybe they
don't want to be, maybe they don't need to be.
Medication serves a purpose, as you know. But we also
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have a large population coming in with metabolic health syndrome
and who have either had sort of a lifetime on
medications or you know, multiple medications, and we're seeing this
deterioration in their physical health. Well, you know what goes
up anxiety, depression, social isolation, deep sadness. So back to
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the answer to your question is when people come in,
we form a relationship, because that is really important when
we were trying to support somebody, knowing that we're here
to serve them, we're here, we're available, and we're just
two people who are working together to improve your health.
That is a normalized approach to mental health, in my opinion,
(09:59):
by very humble opinion.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean, you live it and you're seeing the results,
so I think it's it's far from humble. So when
it comes to the each sleep move, right, yeah, each
sleep move, what are some of the principles, at least
from the let's start with eat, Like, what are some
of the concepts that you try and hone in on
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or trying to prove for your clients?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Mm hmm, you know, And it really depends on their
starting point. And I think because we all sort of
follow this, you know, fairly fluid model. Let's see somebody's
coming in and they're just not eating, They're just restricting eating,
whether that's intentional or not. But you see a lot
of people who who don't eat all day and then
just you know, kind of go through and eat through
the evening. So we might start with let's just talk
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about eating during the day. We might not necessarily focus
too much on what you're eating during the day, but
let's just try implementing that. So although these strategies I'm
talking to you about are very normalized eat sleep move,
we are applying a cognitive behavioral therapy approach to everything
that we do. Right, So whether that's through sleep training
or you know, changing your behaviors, your habits, it does
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need to start in those incremental steps right where you
have a clinician who's leading you along the way. That's
how you gain success. So if somebody's not eating, we're
just going to talk about eating.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
If somebody is eating and maybe their choices aren't ideal,
that's where we're going to see an increase in anxiety
and depression. So a lot of processed foods probably are
being consumed, perhaps you know, like a high amount of sugar,
artificial sweeteners, flavors, and what I see a lot is
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low protein intake and high refined carbs. Right, So you know,
I know that we're getting there's a lot of things
that are coming out around nutrition being purposeful within that
lifestyle medicine model. And I'm really excited this summer I'm
going to Harvard to to further expand some of my
training on the idea of this lifestyle medicine and food
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being medication. And you know, we need to start with
whole foods. I know you preach this all the time,
and I've heard with your intimitt and fasting and you know,
the protein powder, whatever it takes. I want to see
protein consumption throughout the day. And then we talk a
bit because again that CBT models getting put in there.
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So then I want to learn, well, what do they
know about protein? What do they think protein is? And
you know what I hear all the time peanut butter.
Peanut butter is a fat. We know it's delicious, but
it isn't really your primary source of protein. So there's
a little bit of psychowed that comes up where we
bring them into the mix that they can have some
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expertise and some role in developing this, because that's what's
going to stick. Right when you're trying to change behavior,
you need to not talk at them right, be able
to encourage it to way conversation through that relationship. And water,
Oh my gosh, nobody drinks water. Nobody drinks water. How
much water do you drink a day?
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How much do I do it? So? First thing in
the morning, I have almost the leader, just like I
just took my analogy and I'll just put that down
just to give me a good start to the day.
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And then it depends how active anyone, I'd say, anyone
from to the four leaders of Water, I'd say, sometimes
do you forget and.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Your business?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
It's that it's a busy day, Like I'm not thinking
most most days around four, especially most days I get
to work out in so I yeah, I think about that.
How about you, Christine?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I do four and a half leaders, and like you,
I've got about a leader and a half in before
seven o'clock. And I've you know, in adding electrolyte into
my morning has changed my life. But the big, the
big thing with water is I have a really hard
time in the therapeutic relationship with folks when their brains dehydrated.
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But then they're demanding so much of themselves and there's
so much self impost pressure around. Well, I should be better,
you know why am I still feeling like this, and
then we start to pick away at the eating and
the water consumption, we start to see those deficits. These
are just and I know everybody knows this. I know
they don't need to come here to pay me to
tell them this, But there is some thing about kind
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of hugging and wrapping around somebody to help support them
that makes that difference, right, and then we can start
implementing the other things. Well, what will be the barrier
in self care? There's a lot of guilt and shame,
you know, particularly with folks right now for whatever reason,
whether it's the state of the world or it's the
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state of the past five years of the world, it's
been a really challenging handful of years.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
For folks, So guilt and shame, like I think, I mean,
sometimes I need to think about this harder. I feel
like I look at those two different in two different ways.
But why guilt, Like I could see a lot of
anxiety right now as an example, but yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, and anxiety, remember, is sort of a symptom of
other things. So you know, when I say guilt and shame,
I do. I think a lot of it has to
do with unrealistic standards that are kind of being set
in the world. And a lot of that is, you know,
social media. When you you and I both know we
have a large social media presence, we see what's out there.
(16:13):
I appreciate Argy that you keep it real right, and
I think that's really important, and we try to do
the same thing with our social media. But that's not
what everybody's viewing. We can't control that. So when we
talk about you know, diet and lifestyle and mental health,
some of those questions that come up or I might
be like, how much time do you spend on social media?
(16:34):
What do you do right? Because we know are people
getting caught in that rabbit hole of scrolling and what's
happening and maybe the little psychod and dopamine hits, and
you know, how do we actually decrease that? And sometimes
we do dopamine training so cool. I don't know if
you've ever done it, but it's actually so effective for
your brain. So you know, the secret is that we're
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coming in and we're changing your brain, your neuropathways, neuroplasticity.
This is psychotherapy, but we're doing it in a really normalized,
everyday conversation. And that takes a particular skill set and
a particular way of approaching it, and in my opinion,
it's been very effective. Guilt and shame is just rampant
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for in many generations for different reasons. Maybe my generation
might have just been the way boomers were sorry, sorry mom,
the way boomers were raising us. And now I think
it's just the social media and the presence in the
world to sort of be perfect. And we're seeing this, right,
we're seeing kind of unraveling of people's mental health with
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these standards, unrealistic standards, both self imposed and real pressures.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it's funny you said that. I was at a
dinner or sort of a dinner like appres psych I said, yesterday,
and I was a bit late and the people there
ordered some wanted to order some fries and some stuff
like that, and then they were like, oh, but doctor
(18:10):
K's coming. He's like he's going to be like, oh,
where's the protein. And then I'm like, is that you
guys really think that's strict? With the way I approached
things like you know, as you mentioned, I try and
keep it as real as possible and practical. But yeah,
out with your friends, of course you can have fries,
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court you have pizza. Of course you get to live.
But it just it just gave me reinforced that point Christine,
that we the messaging we got to be careful in general,
like about like how how much shame or guilty we
could be putting on people if they have this perception
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of this perfect perfection. And yeah, I just get it
really made me pause and think about some future content
ideas actually, and just saying like, hey man, I'm human too.
I just had I scuffed down a pizza today with beer,
and I, you know, don't feel great, but tomorrow I'm
going to be even better, you know, I mean, like, yeah,
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it was just an eye opening.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Love that macros don't always supersede memories, right, And so
I think it's really important to be mindful of your choice.
So we talk about mindfulness in therapy, right, mindfulness in
your life? What's important to you? Hey, are you looking
forward to going out on Friday with your friends, your girlfriends.
You can have a glass wine, great, enjoy it, but
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let's talk about during the week what does that look like?
And you know, we might talk about alcohol because alcohol
increases anxiety for you know, three days after consumption. So
if you're already an anxious person, consuming alcohol probably isn't
your best friend in that moment. And so we do
a lot of psychoed within our you know, motivational interviewing
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to see where they're at. So I think it's important
that you let people know you are human. I also
just want to touch on something. You can't make anybody
feel guilt and shame, right, those are their feelings and
that has to do with them and how they feel
about themselves. I think being a healthy role model for
people is important. I will say there's a category of
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folks that we see here that I think just the
nature of the atmosphere that we have. And we work
a lot with high functioning you know, executives, high functioning athletes,
and one of the really interesting things is that they
are human, but this pressure that nobody thinks they're human
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or normal actually really affects them. And so we see that,
you know, the high performers that walk in the room,
people notice them. The biggest indicator of being a high
performer or being somebody who's a leader is actually your
physical health, which is mind blowing, right because it actually
has nothing to do with what people think well.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I want you to say again, because this is the first
time I've heard this.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's anecdotal. But you walk in the room and if
you are commanding attention, people know who you are, people
that want are drawn to you. That is because of
your physical health. Because you may work in a job
where you are well paid, you're well respected, but if
your physical health isn't doing well, maybe you have metabolic syndrome,
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maybe you have unhealthy lifestyle, and that's a parent that
takes away from the amazing things that you do. Because
physical health, although there are some factors that are beyond
our control, right, but for the most part, you are
fully in control of your sleeping and you're eating, and
you're moving. And when you learn to master that, that
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shows in your health. You cannot buy that or fake it, right.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I love I love that show. Actually I might. Yeah, no,
I'm not steal that a little bit like I just
because there is something too, There is something to your
your physical health and how you're you're coming across like
(22:30):
I got I think. I think when you're eating, while
when you're moving, while when you're you're feeling good, you're
you're you're you're restored you're sleeping while there is that
change in posture, there is that change in confidence, there
is that change in presence, and and it's contagious that
that charisma, that that presence is amplified. And I recently
(22:55):
talked to somebody that it's funny they had an amazing
that an amazing event and achievement, and they weren't happy
with whether they were in terms of their health like
he or she was will say, you know, twenty thirty
forty pounds over where they wanted to be, and it
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took away from the experience. I mean, my personal opinion
was that they still had some great presence, but for
their personal experience, like they were in their heads thinking
about their appearance as opposed to just being present and
enjoying this amazing achievement. And actually it made me a
little bit of emotional when they were telling me this,
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because I'm like, you should be so proud of what
you accomplished, but it's so sad that you're in your
own head about how you look. And I'm not one
to say, like, hey man, we all got to be
pretty and shit, I mean, I'm anti dad bod, Like
I'll just be honest with you I'm like, it'd be
nice to have a movement for guys our age to say, like, yeah,
(23:57):
let's get pretty, But it's not for the sake of
being pretty. It's the sake of being strong and confident.
But this long winded of me saying that, I think
you're onto something about about how we feel physically and
how that comes across in our confidence and how we
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execute as leaders.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Right. There's a neurological reason for that, which you probably
know about because you're very talented. But you've heard of
growth mindset, this term where you know, when we do
hard things, our brain goes, holy shit, I did that,
and then it goes, I can do something else, I
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can do this, I can do that. So I'm a
big fan of setting goals. So I love that you
just said there's a movement for guys my age to
be anti dad bad or to be in the best
shape when they start to meet milestones. This is where
psychotherapy comes in, Right, we start to set some goals,
move towards them when they meet those milestones. With each progression,
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there's a little check and a little neuro sequential change
that happens that tells you I can do it well.
That's where your shoulders come back and your head comes up.
So this is this is they go hand in hand
and that's why therapy is so effective for meeting your goals.
It's not therapy isn't just come in when you're not
feeling great, and it is for that, and come in
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when you're not feeling great, please please call me, will help.
But it's also when you're feeling great and you want
to move to that next level. Like you said, So
that person that you're talking about that didn't feel their
best self that does that hurts too. I feel that
that they weren't able to sit in their accomplishments because
of how they felt their exterior looked. Therapy supports that, right,
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supports it so that you learn to love yourself and
accept but also know that you can make changes and
empower them.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah. I just once again, christ Yeah, I just love
how it just how holistic the approach is, how you're
dealing with physical and the mental health side, and how
it's intertwined. I just I don't know. I just think
it's it's wonderful. And this is my bias. I know
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there's not the general public stuff, but we do have
a lot of high high achievers or want to be
athletes that listen to the show, Like, what are some
of the other reasons people come to see you? As
you mentioned, there are some kind of unique properties that
the high achievers have, so I'm curious to hear why
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they're drawn to you.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Well, I think maybe from one high achiever to another,
there is a bit of shared lived experience, and that
can be very helpful as well, because it does you know,
we don't all have to have all of the elements
to help support people, and that can be you know,
sometimes a barrier for folks, but one high achiever to
another that is helpful. Plus, there are particular traits that
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we're aware of within kind of that development of a human,
so we often will go back. So sometimes we might
do a real psychoanalytical dig and figure out what is
kind of that precursor, because we know the brain can
heal itself, right, it's plastic and it can be rewired
(27:25):
and moved. So I'll often do like a little diagram like,
you know, here's your brain. Look at how professional this looks,
and here's your brain stem, and then we try to
figure out because high achievers love this stuff, it's great,
it makes sense, right. We love these visuals and metaphors.
So we'll talk about, well, when did you figure out
that you know, this is how you gained attention, or
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when did you get praise and we can go back
and heal that once we learn where the development was halted.
That's the really cool thing about the brain. High achievers
also love the environment. We know that goals is really important.
Accountability structure, right, And I would like to say that
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I'm so proud of the team that we have here
because they all live and breathe this model themselves, healthy lifestyle,
we sleep, we eat with intention. You're never going to
see a fuller fridge of people bringing their lunch, and
you know, when you work in an inter collaborative environment
that's not always the case. And so being able to
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model what you preach and I hope we don't preach.
I hope we educate and I hope we just share experiences.
But I think that goes a long way for high achievers.
We also are a little bit forward thinking. The name
kind of is a little catch unintentional in the treatments
that we offer because we were bringing in other things,
like I mentioned earlier, our Ketamine Medicine Clinic which opens
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next month. And you know, the idea is that not
everybody wants to take SSRIs, not everybody wants to have
medicaid onboard, and that is their perspective, or maybe they
want to move off of it. Ketamine is another option
that doesn't have those same physiological effects and or metabolic
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issues later on in life, and is very effective for
treatment because of what it does to the ripening of
that neuroplasticity. So there's a there's a medicine administration and
a therapy and they go together. At the same.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Time, we're listening to Prevention Over Prescription with Doctor K.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
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Speaker 2 (29:46):
A welcome back to Prevention Over Prescription with doctor K. Brilliant,
brilliant and so just a timestamp that we're interviewing doing
this interview mid April and so in May Christine that
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the Ketymine clinic will be open. And it sounds like
and I'm I've only superficially evaluated the ketamine and its
potential impact on I think it's depression and anxiety, but
from what I could see, it sounds like there's some
(30:29):
promising results.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Mm hmmm. The results are immediate. So one of the
nice things about ketamine if you've ever had folks in
the r who you know, maybe are receiving an interveneous
ketamine for something that needs to be awake for, but
there is an immediate feeling of well being when in
particular when it administered in a psycholytic state, which is
what we are doing. We aren't doing psychedelic doses. We're
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doing psycholytic So I just referred to it like the
baby dose. Right, you're cognizant, you're communicating, you feel like
a million bucks, You're like, shuld I feel amazing, And
it's not a euphoric state. It's this real feeling of
contentment well to anybody that has depression. To be able
to offer that to them, that makes me emotional to
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know that we'll be able to offer that to folks
who have really been struggling. And then there's this neuroplasticity
effect that happens. It's ripening and it kind of happens
at about forty eight hours after the administration of the medicine,
where they come back and they have more psychotherapy where
we review some of those goals that we set together
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and we further that process. So the leaps and bounds
they can make in therapy are shortened to you between
three days what you can do that could take may
I say even years. I've been working with people for
ten years, you know, and it's just amazing. I'm super excited. Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, this is what I mean. What drew me to you, Christine, Well,
we have a mutual friend and Jen Stewart that put
us together. But what what drew me to you was
the idea of of being forward thinking and and and
put moving the needle in terms of how we can
approach people's wellness because a lot of times we try
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and look at look at things the same way that
they've done, uh, you know, and just try harder as
opposed to be looking at innovative and novel ways to
improve people's lives. So I really want to I want
to applaud you. I'm curious, is that without I mean
obviously given too much detail, is there a story that
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comes to mind that someone from Focused for Therapy group,
like a client that that has come in that that
has had like a result that that would be incredible, Like,
is there a story that comes to mind about any
of any of your clients.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
One of the really interesting stories that I have, I mean,
there's actually several like this. I could give you a
laundry list of these stories, and they have to do
with goal setting. That's where I really see the at
company with it, right, because I get to see them
from the beginning, and then I get to see them
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at least to that first goal. It's not the end,
because there's no such thing. We're all circling the drain.
The end is when we're done. But when I see
the goal being met and then the tradectiary for further goals,
those are great stories. And I see a lot of
that when I see athletes or weekend athletes, or folks
who just want to make change in their life and
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they set a goal. Hey I'm training for this or
I really want this promotion. And we start to intertwine
all of those pieces with cognitive behavioral therapy, whether that's
through you know, morning walks, increasing their water journaling, coming
in for therapy, you know, unpacking some of those boxes
that are cluttering up there. Then they meet their goal
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and I see the big change that happens after. So
for some people. They you know, some of the not
so great things in that moment, but that were really
what they needed was some people change relationships. I've seen
people go back to school and say, you know what,
I'm going to go back and do my Masters of Nursing.
I can't tell you how many people have gone back
to school. People are setting new goals for work, changing careers.
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Those are the big stories. Those are like the big
like holy heck moments that I find sit with me.
There's always the really amazing stories of people who have
made peace with something that's happened in the past, who
have made a connection within themselves why they feel or
why they're acting a certain way. We use the term
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I don't know if we I don't know if you
use this term, but the term woke when people really
identify understanding themselves and understanding Hey, I can actually create
my own positive mood. I know how to do that
when I go for a walk in the morning, when
I get the sunlight in my eyes, and then I
come home, when I make a healthy breakfast and I
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had to work, and I live with intention and purpose,
I feel connected to myself. This is where everything changes
in the brain right and that's when those connections start
to happen and then serotonin release. I mean, I'm making
it sound really simple, and my apologies to any scientists
(35:37):
or other coindations here who are like embarrassed by my explanations.
But those are the stories that really sit with me
and I remember those or an email from a parent saying,
you know, thank you for helping me organize this at
eight o'clock last night, which was an email I got
this morning that was just so lovely to get. So
those are the things that stick with me. It's not
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that it's all about me, doctor K, but you know,
these are the things I remember.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's it's what keeps the engine running, y'all, Like it's
those testimonials. It's the lives that are being impacted. It's
why we do what we do, YO. So those are
important and how we feel allows us to show up
as our best our best self. So I wholeheartedly commend
(36:30):
I am. Before ending off, I do want to give
you a chance to plug some of the bodybuilding work
that you've been able to do because I think, once
again we were talking about how body, how your physical
health and your physical wellness translates into your mental health
into your leadership and so forth. So can you tell
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us a little bit about mp A.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, absolutely So. NPA is a bodybuilding federation that is
hosting their first showing on tear May third down at
Laboth Theater at Ottawa U and I am the promoter
for that show. This opportunity is really important to me.
Came around from doctor Wendy doctor Kevin, who are out west,
who founded the federation twelve years ago. When they started
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following me on social media. So here's another social media connection,
because you know, relationships happen online or in person. So
I had founded a nonprofit for women in bodybuilding in
twenty twenty. COVID was around. We all, I mean some
of us had a little bit more time on our hands,
and I decided to start up this nonprofit for women
(37:37):
in bodybuilding. I can tell you that that those couple
of years when we started that, and the change that
I saw on women impacted me so profoundly that it
really identified that even myself as an athlete, as a
competitive bodybuilder, that no longer did it for me. I
no longer was my own goals, no longer filled my cup.
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I exclusively found a deep satisfaction in watching other people
fulfill their goals, and so that was a pivotal shift
for me. So when doctor Wendy and doctor Kevin approached
me and said, you know, we've been watching you, would
you promote our show here? You know, once we worked
out the logistics, which probably took about eight months, I
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am fully on board with this show because I know
what goal setting can do. So this NPA is both
men and women amateur athletes who may want to go pro.
So we are affiliated with the Natural Olympia and we'll
be going to Vegas in November, which is very exciting.
Team Canada first time ever heading to Olympia, so this
is an opportunity. We have a transformation category, which is amazing.
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So if you've had any transformation that can be anything,
that can be weight loss, that can be you've recovered
from surgery, from illness, and you want to come and
show your progress before and after, and it's in athletic
where that category you want you. We want to hear
your story, we want to hear what you've done. We
want to see you on stage because I know what
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can happen when you meet a goal like that. I
almost want to say like, just trst me. I promise
you're going to feel so amazing after.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I love it, and I know, actually I would. I
don't know if she'd be good me telling, but I
have a friend named Kim that had a very significant
body transformation, and I mean, she's on social media flexing,
and I'm just so proud of how much she's transformed.
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And I see how it's changed her life, going from
somebody that would be at risk of seeing me and
the icee you to somebody that is legit like completely
change the trajectory of her life. So I love this,
And this is why I mean, we're I don't know
if we were allowed to say this, but say this anyway.
(40:01):
That's why we're partnering with you in terms of God
and nutrition because we love that message being got as strong,
focusing on not only how your physical strength is being
amplified by how it affects your mental health and so forth.
So really really excited to be partnering with you, guys.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh yeah, And we're excited to partner with you. And
I think it is okay to say it because I
think in healthcare we need to be transparent and clear
and honest about our intentions and what we're doing. And
I am really proud to have this product created by
a physician to be able to be given to our
athletes and to everybody else, to the folks who aren't
eating all day and you, let alone consuming proteins. So
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I'm really excited to have you in the clinic.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Amen. Amen, So Christine, this has been awesome. Where can
people learn more about you personally? Learn more about the clinic?
Where do we want to send people?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Focusforward Therapygroup dot com is our main website. You can
google boot Seek mental Health, you can google Autowa Ketamine,
you can google me. You're going to see a lot
of my bodybuilding information out there. I would encourage you
to go to our main website and we can direct
you from there. You can email us at info at
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Focusfordtherapygroup dot com and you can also follow us on
social media on Instagram at Focus Forward Therapy Group.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Amazing. Christine, Once again, thank you so much for jumping
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Welcome back to Prevention Over Prescription with Doctor K. Welcome
back Forecast Nation. Listen quick. I wanted to talk to
you about why we produced this new book, Prevention Over
Prescription Taking control of your health through nutrition, movement and
community new endeavor coming out soon. The links will be
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in the show notes, or go to doctor Quadro dot
CA Backslash Books and you'll be able to do the
pre order, which will also include the twenty eight day reboot.
But I wanted you to hear my why why did
I create this book? And it's simple. I got onto
this gig when it came to research, when it came
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to looking at ways that how do we improve the
healthcare system. A lot of it was focused on active treatment.
How do we make you get better when you're in
a QTE care hospital, when you're in the ICU, What
treatments are going to be effective and how can we
in fact we reduce suspending in terms of giving you
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cost effective ways that we could create a more lasting
and sustainable healthcare system. And during the pandemic, my eyes
opened up. My eyes opened up because we saw too
many people land in ICEE you and die that had
metabolic syndrome that was a primary driver of getting sick
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and dying of COVID during that time, and metabolic syndrome
being obese, type two diabetes, high blood pressure, discipid, your
high cholesterol. And in the traditional system, we don't learn
about reversing these things. We learned about treating them. And
(44:09):
early in the podcasting life, we had these conversations with
these influence influencers, bio hackticians, whatever you want to call them,
that was teaching me that you can indeed reverse type
two diabetes, you can indeed reverse some of these chronic conditions,
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in fact reverse metabolic syndrome. And so this was huge.
It was like, if we focus on prevention and learn
these things and in fact reverse some of these conditions,
not only are you reducing your risk of landing in ICU,
but you're resing we're reducing your risk of heart attacks, strokes, infections, cancer, uh, infertility,
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mental heal health conditions we're seeing typed to metabolic disease,
and so this to me was a clear sign we
need to focus on prevention. We need to teach ways
on how people can get healthy. And in fact, even
from the cost perspective, I often give this number of
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when I give talks, fifty three thousand dollars per COVID
admission that landed in Ice you. And if we put
even a dent in that, that's one patient. We put
even a dent into preventative side. Think about how many
lives could be saved, not only from the COVID but
from other conditions. And so this is my new mission, folks,
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and the book distills it all to me. It was like,
what is the eighty twenty of getting people healthy? Most
effective ways that we talk about to get people healthy
so they avoid seeing someone like myself and Ice. You
get inundated with all this crap on ig you know
(46:04):
all your social media, got to do carnival, gotta do keto,
gotta do veganism, you can only eat between two and
three pm Eastern Standard time, even if you're traveling. I
guess it's relentless amount of information you get inundated with,
and it's tough to know what's what. And so after
years of interviewing folks after doing my own research, got
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it into five key pillars, finding your purpose, nutrition, movement,
stress management, and connecting with others Like these principles are
the key driver in the book, and we distill them
into what are the what's going to be most impactful,
what's going to be most impactful for you? Instead of
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you trying to figure out all the handle all ten
different advices that you might hear throughout the book, I
just want you to pick on one or two things one
and two levers. It might be increasing your protein and take,
might be increasing your step count, might be pushing that weight,
which you all need to be doing. But it's got
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to be something because I'll tell you the system ain't working.
The system ain't working for the preventive house side. And yes,
if you come into the hospital and you have a
heart attack, you have an infection, we will treat you
and you will get the best care possible. But you
don't want to get to that state. I'm telling you,
I see it on a daily basis. What can we
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do to prevent you from landing and getting sick in
the intensive care you or any acute care setting. This
is what this book's all about and I'm proud of it.
What I'm most proud of is that I think if
you choose one or two of these things, it's going
to go a long way. Like first we talk about purpose,
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and this was an additional chapter I put in as
a result of talking to ben Azzati, and it really
came to mind from a personal experience I had when
I was close to burnout, when I was, you know,
mid pandemic, just took on the department head job and
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we were getting inundated with these emissions that were COVID positive.
We were staffed for swabbing COVID positive as an omicron wave,
and I was getting buried online for my stance on schools,
personal attacks. All this and I was done, and I
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was eating poorly, I was not sleeping, I did not
feel like exercising. I don't even know if jims were open,
to be honest, but it was reconnected with my purpose
that pushed me through. And I think if a lot
of you guys can relate, if you're not aligned with
what d you, what makes you happy, what makes you
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feel fulfilled, all this ship falls apart. So that is,
you know, one of the most important parts of getting
your life together. And then, as many of us talked about,
when it comes to nutrition, we talk about protein intake.
When it comes to movement, walking, resistance training, When it
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comes to stress management, most important part is sleep, so
talking about how we can improve on our sleep. And
then lastly, how we connect with others, how we stack
that with exercise or any other thing, or in terms
of killing two birds with one stone. So, folks, I
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think you're going to really enjoy this book, and I'm
really proud of this. It's years of doing this, going
jumping on podcasts and doing our research and I think
you guys will really enjoy this. And I just have
so many people that think for the opportunity, including Samantha
from a Lucky Book Publishing, uh, Nikki, my family given
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the time like me and Sarah's all of Sarah's. I
love you guys for all the dedication and the work
you've allowed me to to get this project launched. And
we would love to hear your feedback folks. If you
if you feel the book has impacted you or or
you feel like it's it's gonna can help others, please
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reach out Podcast nine to nine at gmail dot com
because we we want to get the word out. If
you even feel like you want to gifted to somebody
that maybe can't afford it, we'll find a way. So
what we're all about is impact. And I don't know
if this book it's going to save the world, and
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I know it's not going to save the world, but
it's something and I'm feeling more and more we have
to have a bit of urgency within the healthcare system
for change. I know I'm getting sick of the slow
moving pieces that we've been talking about our healthcare systems
and crisis since the pandemic was near the tail end.
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Then I can't look at a tangible thing that has changed.
But we put, like we talked about in our first book,
our values is we create the change. And this is
a small step and hopefully it will help some and
hopefully many take control of their health and take control
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of their lives. So thank you for listening. Go to
the website doctor Quadro dot Ca and you'll get everything,
including our new coaching program one on one Coach and
I think you guys will love this stuff. But you
guys have been awesome. Leave us any comments at podcast
ninet nine at Jamail dot com leave a five star rating.
Follow us on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter at quodcast,
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jump on our newsletter, jump on our community check out
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is on that preventative side, on that proactive side, so
that you show up as your best self, show up
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guide A strong baby. Here we go. Let's do this
all right people, I hope you're feeling a little bit
more jumping your step after that episode. Thanks for listening.
Talk Russell Peece. Yeah, it's like, if you want to
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Thirty, you want to go to left right.
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