October 22, 2025 • 48 mins
Ep. 306 - Duck, Duck, GOAT: Drake Maye's Performance and Other Fowl Plays
This week, David and Brad deliver analysis and exegesis on poultry, Patriots, and prophecy. The boys declare Drake Maye the next NFL MVP, take a victory lap over the Patriots finally putting football men in charge instead of DEI hires, and somehow pivot seamlessly into the Book of Enoch and the Nephilim's role in humanity's rebellion. It's the only show where Margaret Thatcher, duck l'orange, and rebellious celestial beings share the same hour. If you came for consistency, you're lost. If you came for critical analysis, truth, and the kind of intellectual chaos that shouldn't work but absolutely does—you're in the right spot.
This week, David and Brad deliver analysis and exegesis on poultry, Patriots, and prophecy. The boys declare Drake Maye the next NFL MVP, take a victory lap over the Patriots finally putting football men in charge instead of DEI hires, and somehow pivot seamlessly into the Book of Enoch and the Nephilim's role in humanity's rebellion. It's the only show where Margaret Thatcher, duck l'orange, and rebellious celestial beings share the same hour. If you came for consistency, you're lost. If you came for critical analysis, truth, and the kind of intellectual chaos that shouldn't work but absolutely does—you're in the right spot.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their
(00:26):
voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheef. She said, do you
love me?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I tell only partly.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I only love my bed and my mom. I'm sorry,
shitty dub.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I even got it at.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It, Brad, I'll tell you what that song, God's plan
is amazing. Drake the drake is uh uh? I mean
first I was a drake a male duck.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I thought that was a mallard.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, no, that's a that's a kind of duck I
think of drake is a male duck.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Can they make duck lerange from any old duck or
does it have to be a specific duck?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Well, I don't think it has to be. I mean
it depends what you mean by specific type. It had
to be a specific duck. You can only make it once.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I think you can.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I think you can, I think any. I don't think
almost any duck. But the duck has to be fed
oranges for weeks in advance.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So if it doesn't give fed oranges, it's it's out
of lock. You're gonna have some other type of duck.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't like duck duck. I had this conversation yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Do you have a conversation about eating duck? Yesterday?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I certainly did, But for some reason it came up
and actually, and I said, listen, I am not eating
any poultry that when you slice into it it's red.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm not doing it, not that uncooked. I don't want that.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
What poultry? So does duck that way? I don't need
a lot of duck myself.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Off.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I mean, not because I don't like it necessarily, but
it's just not common.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No, I had wait, did we have it? We had
a pot of food, didn't we duck? He made duck
lorange for us once?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Did he? Really?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I didn't need it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I thought that was it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Was one of the choices.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Okay, Yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't want duck. I don't want duck. I don't
want rabbit. I don't want pigeon.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I don't bought an orange chicken, a chin or chicken. Yes, yes,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
In fact, there was some PF changs ordered in celebration
last night of the year Patriots game.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
I had.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I had some gluten free spicy chicken, which is phenomenal,
not good for you, but phenomenal, phenomenal. Well, they listened,
So yeah, Drake May obviously is the reason for the song.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It is.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know, it's tough because I have been through probably
the greatest sports winning streak in the history of sports.
And uh, and now we've been gifted by the heavens
Drake May and Roman Anthony to lead us into the
next ten.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
To fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Anthony the Red Sox superstar, superstar, Yeah, who tweaked his
back and missed the last three months of the season,
but that's fine. He's a fantastic and uh.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And then yeah, so that's where we are. It's uh phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Mean, I'm telling you right now, I'm just gonna say
this for the record, Drake May, as long as he
stays healthy, is going to be an m VP in
this league. He is fantastic. He makes all the throws
and if you just give him a running game and
maybe a couple more offensive linemen, he's going to be
in the in the conversation for best in the game period.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Drop that mic, you.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
May you may want to, you know, back a little
further away from the tips of your skis there.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
He's a he's a good quarterback. But it's the it's
as I've said, I'm on record, it's the coach.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh, the coach is terrific. Yeah, I mean, compared to
what we had last year, we had that halfway Mayo.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Last year, I mean, you would have been better off
randomly selecting a junior higher.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, that's what we did. That's what we did.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
He had, they had Mayo, and the hire that Dei
woman to run the football. I mean, I guess it's
still better than Belichick's girlfriend running it. I mean, but
but now you got you got football men in charge.
And again, I'm not against women. I love women. I
think women are very important in society, and I think
there are some some great ones Margaret.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Thatcher, my mom, my wife, not in that order.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But but they don't the woman. They hired for the
Patriots was a DEI person that was just there to
to promote the diversity and it's just bullshit, right, they
need to go and win the games.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, well that is sort of the point of athletic
competition is too if you can is to win, just
to play hard, right, I mean, if there's any any
young they weren't doing children listening.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
It's more important that you play hard, that you play.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Fair, that you know, play to the best of your ability,
and if that leads to a win, great, and if
it doesn't, you know, we'll go back to the drawing board.
But yeah, once you get to the professional level, you're
supposed to win.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So well they're doing that. The Patriots are absolutely doing that.
They're five and two, right.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They are five and two. They're in number two seed
behind the Colts, believe it or not. And the key is.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Goltz are having an unbelievable season.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Goltzer cults are. I mean, there's something, but I'll tell
you what. The Patriots. The Patriots, it's one. A couple
of years ago, we had the mac Jones year where
we were like ten and four, went to the playoffs, right,
and then we lost the last three, but we went
to the playoffs. But that year, remember they went to
Buffalo one game that year and they threw the ball
twice and they ran the ball like fifty times in
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the wind, and they won that game like.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Nine to six. And that was very fluky season. Very different.
This season.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They're winning on the arm of the quarterback. The quarterback
is making all the freaking throw I've never seen anything
like it. And I don't know how that he felt.
The third in the draft, whoever drafted the Daniels and
the other kid before him, are fools. The kid from
Chicago fools. This guy is the real deal, and they
get very it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Didn't come from This happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And Brock Purdy, who unfortunately hasn't played hardly at all
this season, is the contra example, Right, is that if
you go to a big program and a big school,
then somehow you're just better, which is odd.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
The scouts and the guys who do the draft at
the NFL level are supposed to be and largely are
very very good at their jobs.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Somehow they often fall prey to this idea. You know,
Caleb will Williams just having.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
A good year this year, I mean, the Bears are
pretty good this year, but because he was at USC,
everybody was like, oh, he's amazing. And then you got
Drake May who was a North Carolina which is not
a big program.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
See in North Carolina or Duke North Carolina right.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
North Carolina, NC.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, and so you know, I mean he just got overlooked.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
That's if he had been at USC and Caleb Williams
had been in North Carolina, he would have gotten one easy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, it's amazing because he got all the tape on
the guy that wasn't a COVID year. I just don't
I don't understand how they I mean, I'm thrilled they
did it. I'm thrilled it went down that way. And
I think you're probably right. But you know, the guy,
the guy, the guy's picking before him. Daniels has always
heard and Williams is not good. So but it is
what it is. You know, we just continue the dynastic run.
(07:18):
I did want to say this Saturday, I'm running around
town running some errands and I am here in Barrington
run On where it's lovely all today we're in the.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Middle of a big Nor'eastern type deal. So if anything.
If we cut off, that just means I'm out of luck.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I drove through like three feet of water after I
dropped the kids off at school today by the bay.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
On the road. So I made it through. I made
it through.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But I had to go get some some pizza for
my brother's birthday and give it to Marilyn Mooney and
marlow What marylnd Mooney?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
My brother Kevin.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
My brother Kevin is his birthday, so he likes Concerted
pizza from Providence, you know the you like that that rectang?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I actually do like that.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, that's how did you get it from the production
facility to your brother without it being you know, freaking
ice cold.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, I'm sure it was ice cold. I had to
go into Providence, which I don't typically do, and it's
a fifteen twenty minute drive. But it's just they're still
working on the bridge. There's traffic now on the weekend.
It's fine, Okay, it's fine, but I I had to
go meet my mother's cousin, Marilyn Mooney and her daughter Marlowe.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Is she also last named Mooney? Is it Maryland?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
She's gonna make she's gonna she's gonna marry name. Now
she's like she's like my age and the mother something
something else though, And so I had to go into
town to meet them at the pizza place where I was.
I made my mother some food that was frozen. I
gave her that, and then I gave her.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The pizza pizzas pizzas. Yeah, so I did that. But
then I come back.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
How do you do that on brand new tires?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, I didn't. That car is still out of commission.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I had to get my wife's car out of storage
and now I'm driving that, okay, Yeah, and uh so anyway, yeah,
so I make it. I make it to Providence. I
do that stuff. Then I go pick up Brook at Piano.
I come back and yeah, I mean so everywhere in
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the state at this point, there's this no King's rally, right,
the Trump anti Trump thing that they're doing.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's the most bizarre thing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, and they're and they're like blocking the intersection in
the middle of the day on a weekend. They're like
a couple hundred people And I'm sitting there and I
got my window open. Is a nice day, right, And
this guy is just this, this, this, and they're all
these are all everyone there has one thing in common.
They are white, white, primarily women, but there is some
effeminate men too. And although I did see Matt gets
(09:52):
met Gets posted a nice.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Video of these women in DC that he took like eight.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Chunky chunky, Can I say that sure, women who are
all in anti Trump shirts doing this dance like for
the No King dance. And Matt Getz made the point
of the dance. It was like it was like a dance,
some coordinated dance, all these white women, and and gets
made the point that look, if if they can continue
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this for forty five minutes a day for several months,
then maybe they can meet a man and get married
and become Republicans. He said, but in some cases it's
going to take a little longer than forty five minutes
a day. And he just made this this great comment,
and he was just he was just getting getting drilled
by the left on that one. But that was a
great analogy. I thought, that's what I saw too. I
(10:41):
just saw a bunch of angry white people holding up
signs blocking the intersection, and all of them are like
fifty sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, there were a few younger, not many, and well.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
We don't have a king, so I mean, you're protesting
against the abstract.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But it's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Maybe they're protesting against the auto pen deal. And then
and then Trump in the middle of this whole thing.
I don't know if you saw what he posted, probably not,
but he posted this AI video of him standing there
and then putting a putting a crown on his head
and pulling up a king's cloak over his shoulders and
holding up his sword, and then in front of him kneeling,
(11:18):
We're Schumer and Pelosi like taking a knee, bending the
knee and uh. And then that drove everyone into a
tizzy and they got upset about that. But this guy
is just.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
So dumb, buddy, because that's what he wants. No, yeah,
he wants them to be upset. He's doing it for
one reason, to upset them, and they get upset every time.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No, that's I mean, that's exactly exactly right. I mean
it is. It is.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Fantastic how he just trolls them and trolls them, and
these people are unhinged. I mean, these people are screaming
that they're fighting for democracy. And I'm like I told
my I told my I told my daughter, I said, well,
we just had an election. We just had an election,
so that's why, you know, we had a democratic process,
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and now we're going to protest the election that they lost,
which is what apparently they're frigging doing. But anyway, this
guy is holding up this sign. He's like wearing some
bright yellow windbreaker and he's he's yelling hauk for democracy,
and everyone is hawking except me. I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it. I got my thing out the window.
I looked at him and he looked at me, and
(12:29):
I just shook my head and I said to my daughter,
I said, this is pathetic, but this is what you get.
Like you're going to block the intersection on a Saturday.
Now I have to go the extra the extra distance
to go the back roads home because I'm not dealing
with this crap. And the guy then tries to engage me,
and he said, he said, uh, he said listen, he said,
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what do you not care about democracy? Because I'm out
here protesting for democracy? And I said, I actually said,
I said, brother, I actually don't think you are.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And in fact, I think you're doing the opposite.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
There was just an election and at that point the
light turned and I you know, I could hear them
screaming in the background, and my daughter guess she ran
over them.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Gung yeah, but she got to chuckle out of it.
But these people are like unhinged, and that it doesn't
make any well.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
They live in an alternate reality. I mean, the sad
fact of the matter is is they believe.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
What they profess to believe, right, Like you know, sometimes
you run into somebody and they say, wow, you know
I'm for this or for that. You can just tell
they're really not. They're doing it for some other reason.
But largely through the advent of the Internet and the
particular aspect of what we call social media, you can
be convinced of an alternate reality.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
And I think most of these people truly are like.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
They honestly, I think if you dose them with truth serum,
they would tell you they think that Donald Trump is
in the process of becoming the king of the United States.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They honestly think that.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But it's the craziest is the craziest thing. I mean,
if you think about the first which he's been president,
what eight months, at nine months, In the first nine months,
he's I mean at least to this point, done a
lot of good, right. I mean, the Middle East thing
is historic. The other disputes is historical. We'll see what
happens with Ukraine. But the jury's aconomy is great.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Economy is doing great, Inflation is down.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, you know, the interest rates are finally going down,
the tax cuts are about to to take shape. And
then you look what he did the border. There are
no more literally no more crossings at the border. They
sent a reporter from CBS to the border a couple
of weeks ago, and I was watching the news that
night and they there's nothing happening that nothing, nothing except
they're building more wall.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean, there's literally nothing happening at the border.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He's dealing with those drug cartels by blowing the ships
out of the water, which I think is freaking terrific.
And then he's going into the cities and making the
cities livable. He's done in DC, Memphis, they say crime
is way down. He's doing it in other cities now.
And I mean, what are these people? What are they protesting?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like what they do?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Were they protesting four years ago when we shut down
businesses and told people that they couldn't have birthday parties,
for their for their kids without taking six feet of
social distancing.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, that's it.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I mean, imagine being those people looking at Trump, who
is you know, engaged in the governance of the country
and in using US influence to leverage things like Middle
East peace, which is, you know, just become a metaphor
for the impossible, right, I mean, you know, it's like
(15:39):
they say, you know, two things that are inevitable at
death and taxes. If you want to use a metaphor
for the impossible, you say, well, you know, it's like
middle peace in the Middle East, and.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
He's actively working towards that goal.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
And let's say you no, domestically things are going better,
and these folks are are protesting that they should somehow.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He's become a king, which is I mean, there's just
what the evidence of that is. I have no idea.
But these are the same folks who just absolutely required.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
You to wear a mask which didn't do anybody any good,
forced you to take an injection.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Now, whether or not at work is not the point, right.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
The point is that nominally in this country we have freedoms,
and we decide whether or not we want to do
certain things and so they force you to take an
experimental vaccine. And at the same time, these are many
the same people who don't want to give their kids
like measles vaccines, which is you know, they're jumping up
and down hollering about we believe the science. Hey jackal
(16:40):
measles vaccines have been around for generations and they work gangbusters, okay,
And so I mean, it's just they live in an
alternate reality where consistency and logic do not apply right
where you can be pro one vaccine that has experimented,
I'll not exactly sure what it does, and then against
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another vaccine that isn't experimental, know exactly what it does
for no reason at all. And then the President of
the United States comes out and says, hey, there's been
some research that Thailand all might actually be linked to autism.
And then you got these women who if I were
their husbands, I would be I would I would I
don't know what.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I would do. I'm not going to go on record
as to what I would do, but it wouldn't be good.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
And and they're just pounding Thailand, all pregnant women pounding Thailand,
all because they hate Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
And then you point you go. Well, golly.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
A woman at Harvard published a study linking Thailand All
to autism, You idiots. Thailand All its the company that
produces Thailand All itself. It's come out and said, hey,
we don't recommend it, you know, for pregnant women. Yeah,
I mean, it's just there, and they're just shoving it
in their mouths like it's candy because the guy who
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broke the news happens.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
To be someone they don't like. I mean, you want
to talk about an alternate reality that would be like
someone I don't like. I don't know who who who
don't I.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Like AOC, I don't like her at all, saying you
know what, it's it's best if you don't stab yourself
with a knife. Yeah, just because she said it, I
just take out the biggest, you know, chef's knife I
can find and start driving it into my chest to
prove what point. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's crazy, buddy, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, and the and and that's exactly right. And I
don't like the Middle East thing is historic?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Historic? What was done in the Middle East?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Okay, that that is historic? And I mean, you know,
knock on wood, I hope it holds. But the fact
of the agreement and the fact of all these hostages
being returned, and the fact of Israel stepping back, it's uh,
it's it's front lines.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, that's historic.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And you've got all these all these Muslim nations backing
that up, and no one gives a shit. I mean,
no one is celebrating that. And and that we should
be happy about that. I mean, the the the border
not being abused by criminals. We should be we should
all agree that that's a great thing. And you know,
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no one's saying there shouldn't be any immigration, legal immigration.
I think there should. But it's an amazing another amazing accomplishment.
I mean that these are facts. These are things that
are going on in the world now that are good
for this country, objectively good for this country. And it's
all about who gets the credit. If there were a
(19:40):
different if this were Biden, right, I mean I had
some moron tell me there are people holding upside and
saying that the Middle East Deal was Biden's deal, saying
this is Biden's deal, and I'm like, what, what what
and that they said, well, yeah, he had this, this
was his plan.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Hid been blinken. They just couldn't get people to agree
to it. I'm like, well, then that's not his deal.
That's a fantasy, that's a click your heels and welcome
to Kansas. That's a fantasy that is not reality.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah yeah, but so so it's just the craziest alternate
reality thing. And I really hope and I you know,
when when when there are successes that other presidents have,
I cheer them.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You know, that is a fact.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
And I I.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just think we've become so used to.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Rooting for whatever our team is, and we no longer have,
at least on the left, a party that reflects any
of the old values of the left, which were free speech,
which we equal opportunity, which we're making sure that you
had a taxism system that didn't punish people in the
(20:49):
lower tiers of the earning earnings brackets and all that.
That's all gone and now it's it's just number one
message anti Trump, number two mess if Trump's for it,
we're against it. Number three message anti Trump, and that
that's it. And our Ukraine of course. But there's just
no coherent ideology that you can cling to to say, yeah,
(21:12):
these guys believe in this, or these guys believe in
believe in that, and it's disheartening, and it really does
create this weird dynamic where no one's talking about the
issues anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's everything's personal.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Well, and because everything is personal, it is therefore become stupid, right,
I mean not if you don't like someone, define you're
not required to like them. You're not required to like anyone.
I mean, that's that's never been a thing. But you
have to be able in order for democracy to function. Ironically,
for these people, you have to be able to set
(21:48):
aside your personal distaste for someone you know, for their personality, for.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
The way they live their lives.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
You have to be able to set those sorts of
things aside and say, okay, how can we work together
to you know, move the country forward or move the
planet forward. And this idea that well, if Trump does it,
it has to be bad. And if Trump says that
it has to be wrong, is just an insane way
to live your life. There are a lot of people
(22:17):
who I would not want to live my life the
way they live their lives. I make very different choices,
you know, with the way that I try to be
a husband and a father than people do.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
But if they have a good idea.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Like if they say, hey, you know, there's a mac
truck coming, you should step out of the street.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'm very likely to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
That doesn't mean I have to change my opinion about
anything that I've previously said.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
But they stated a helpful fact and I listened to
it and said, oh, good idea. Right.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
These folks have just absolutely lost touch with what it
means to live in reality. If someone said if you care,
you're you're a pregnant woman and you care about the
health of your unborn child, and someone who is potentially
in a position to know says, hey, this material may
be dangerous to your child, you owe it to yourself,
(23:11):
to your child, to.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Your family to say, okay, let me let me take
a time out here on my.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Use of this substance and research this and if it
turns out that it's just absolute nonsense, finding and go
back to using it if you choose to do so.
But if it turns out that, you know, Harvard Medical
School has produced a report that backs this up, and
that the company manufacturing the substance is also.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Going yeah, man, like you know, don't we don't recommend.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
This, and you say, screw all that because of the
person who said it, I'm going to poison my unborn child. Well,
you have just taken leave of your senses. I mean,
you've just departed reality. I don't care who you are.
And that's just one example of many of what you're
pointing out is that you know, this whole what do
they call it, buddy, Trump derangement syndrome is And that
(23:58):
is a thing. I used to think it was kind
of like a funny, you know, way to describe, you know,
people just hating Donald Trump. But no, I mean it
is a thing that could very easily impact the health
and welfare of human beings.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, it's TDS Trump derangement syndrome exactly right, Yeah, it's
it is.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's off the rails.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, there was some report over the weekend of
some guy in uh in the I think Georgia or
something shooting at a neighbor's house because he had a
Trump sign out, and you know, and then and then
they're now they're going after you know, Fetterman, who I
think is fantastic, the Stroke guy, and the Stroke in
Pennsylvania who actually came out and said the president should
be applauded for the Middle East deal. They're now primary
(24:46):
going to primary him because he's not radical enough. And
then that they I meanwhile, the socialist, the guy, Marxist,
whatever he is, the guy in Mandami in New York
City came out over the weekend that he has a
close relationship with one of those crazy uh nine to
eleven unindicted co conspirators, the guy who heads that mosque
(25:08):
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Who has preached death to America.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And there are pictures of this guy as recently is
a year or so ago, where he's hanging out with
this uh, this crazy chic is it a chic or
whatever the hell they call the guy, the guy with
the hat, Yeah, whatever, the strange hat and uh and and.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And he's still gonna win.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He's gonna win the mayorship in New York because the
Democrats can't get their damn act together and nominate someone
who is in line with the values of a majority
of New Yorkers, not even the values of a majority
of average people, but even the left leaning New Yorkers.
They had to go with this crazy socialist, anti American socialist, lunatic,
(25:51):
anti semi vile human being who can't even can't even
denounce Hamas.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
By the way, because he's gonna win.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, I mean well, I mean so therefore, the
majority of folks who are voting in New York, So
I mean that may not make the majority of New
Yorkers right, because you have to draw that distinction out everybody.
For some crazy reason, people who are eligible to and
capable of voting oftentimes don't.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I don't understand that. I think you should vote every
freaking chance you get.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
But you know, he's going to win, and that is
one of the great beauties of democracy, because the voting
people of New York are going to get what they deserve. Okay,
I mean all of these things that mom Donnie supports,
none of it is new, right, I mean Marxism, communism, socialism,
(26:49):
radical Islamic fundamentalism.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
None of that is new and all. Everyone who is
old enough to vote in the city of.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
New York is old enough enough to be fully cognizant
of the results of other places that have implemented policies
based on those isms.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You know what happens when you do that. It's been
demonstrated over and over and over again. There's no guessing
there's no you know what, we don't really know all
that's going to work out, has come up with something new. Nope,
it's all tried and failed. Isms is dozens of times
(27:33):
in dozens of different places. Right, So it's not even
like you can say, well, their implementation over here wasn't
that good, or this particular culture doesn't lend itself well
to that.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
All these things have been tried many many times in
many many places, and they have universally failed.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And yet.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
The dopes who are going to elect this guy in
New York are I guess loo king in the mirror
and saying, well, we will be different. This will be
you know, we're going to click our heels three times,
and Marxism is going to work here in New York City,
and radical Islamic fundamentalism is suddenly going to become a peaceful,
you know, happiness inducing way of life. Fools, you're all
(28:18):
schools and you you're going to get what you deserve
because you voted.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
He doesn't even have the power to do this stuff
he says he's going to do right, like the taxation
and stuff. He can't even enact that without the legislature
of the state, and you know, just wait if he
gets in wait to see what the federal government does
over the next few years, because I'm telling you right now,
with the Trump administration in charge, you're just not going
to see the type of cooperation with New York. If
(28:44):
you have some radical, crazy socialist, anti American socialist running
the city, You're just not gonna You're not gonna see it.
But that's that's you know, we'll leave that for another day.
The one other thing I wanted to get to in
this episode. We talked about this briefly as you were
congratulating me, uh yesterday about my New England Patriots probably
(29:05):
being the best team in football. I think your word's
not mine, but I don't disagree. This Book of Enoch,
which is I think one of the one of the
scrolls found in Kumaran, right with the Dead Sea scrolls.
There's a lot going on about that, going going around
about that, with Joe Rogan taking a lot of time
(29:27):
to talk about whether or not the Book of Enoch, why.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well why I I don't listen to Joe Rogan, which
which is fine, I don't. I don't not listen to
him because I don't like him.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I just I just don't, well, how did this The
Book of Enoch is, you know, fairly fringe, So how
does it wind up being on.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
The on the Joe Rogan Show.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It originally came up a few weeks ago. I I
I listened to some of his shows, in particular if
they're about things that I find interesting. And uh, he
had he had Representative Luna, who's the former Beauty Hawaiian
Tropic Beauty queen who's now the Republican house member from Miami,
the Miami area, I think somewhere in Florida. And uh,
(30:10):
and she is heading up the JFK committee, right. They
named her to hit up the JFK committee.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And she's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
She's like getting documents released, and she's she doesn't know
much about the JFK situation, but she knows enough to
be dangerous and she's getting the documents released. But as
part of that she started, she also has on her
plate as part of that committee to release UFO files. Okay,
And so one of the things she and he discussed
(30:39):
on the program was whether or not the concept of
the watchers in the Book of Enoch, who I think
and you will learn much more about this, but as
I understand it, these are like fallen angels, whether or
not these are and they're giants, right, the giants. But
they said that that whether or not these these are aliens,
and whether or not they somehow imparted knowledge to humanity
(31:05):
that was somehow included weaponry and advanced space technology and
things like that, and and whether or not that that
interaction led to things like the Pyramids and led to
a lot of the things we don't understand about the
technology of ancient times being a little more advanced than
(31:27):
you know, creating questions for us as to how things
could be done in such a time where there weren't
the means to get things done, like the pyramids.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And so I thought it was an interesting conversation.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And then again yesterday morning it came up where he
was talking to some theologian about the Book of Enoch
and why it was excluded from the the the Old Testament,
and and you know, their theory is that it was
inflicted with the Torah, so the Jewish scholars wouldn't include it.
(32:05):
And so that with a lot of questions I had,
As you know, when I have a question about the Bible,
I go to mister Bradsheaf, and I thought it'd be
interesting for you to enlighten us and everyone on what
the Book of Enoch actually says and what you think
about some of these characterizations that they're making that are
going viral out there.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Well, okay, I mean, I'm happy to have the conversation.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I obviously didn't listen to the Joe Rogan program, so
I can't I can't speak to it directly, but I
can certainly address questions that you've asked. So to be clear,
the Book of Enoch is not an apocryphal book in
the sense that it does not appear in either the
Jewish or the Christian apocrypha, right, the books that some
(32:51):
aspects of Judaism and or Christianity accept as being canonical
except as being part of scripture, and some don't. And
so the kind of I think for most people in
the United States, if you know anything about the apocrypha
at all, it's because someone has told you or you
(33:13):
you know that in the Catholic Bible, there's a subset
of books that do not appear in the Protestant Bible,
and that is the Christian apocrypha, right, and they there's
a long story behind those books. They appear in the Septuagint,
and so therefore, when Jerome was translating Scripture into Latin,
(33:36):
the Pope asked him to include those books.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Jerome didn't want to do it. There was an argument.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Eventually the pope won, likely because he was the pope
and those and so therefore Jerome who headed up this
process of translating the Bible into Latin.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
It's known as the Vulgate, and they wind up in there.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
And so you see these books in the Catholic Church,
and oftentimes what you here is that they're pseudocononical, right,
so they're not accepted by everyone as being scriptural. And
you know, generally speaking, what people mean, both on the
Jewish side and on the Christian side is when something
is canonical and it's scriptural, is.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
That it is the inspired word of God. And so
these books are not accepted as necessarily being the inspired
word of God, but they have value. Okay. So Enoch
is not even in that category.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Okay, So there is a there are two There's one
sect of Judaism in Ethiopia that accepts Enoch as being
part of scripture, and there are two churches Ethiopia and
the Eritrean Christian churches denominations of Christianity, both in the
(34:51):
same part of the world. Again, Ethiopia and Eritrea that
accept the Book of Enich as being part of scripture
of the Christian Bible.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So no one else does.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
And the Book of Enoch is not a Dead Sea Scroll, okay,
So I want to be I want to draw a
distinction there. The Book of Enoch is quoted in the
Dead Sea Scrolls. So the Dead Sea Scrolls are the
written works of a radical sect of Judaism that was
around prior to the birth of Christ, and they separated
(35:29):
themselves from mainstream Judaism, and they lived about in the wilderness,
and they had a particular view of scripture, and they
so that in their writings you have quotes out of
scripture and then their commentary or midrash on the scripture
and the Kumaran Skulls, the Dead Sea Scrolls, this particular,
(35:53):
the Kuman sect of Judaism had had a little bit
different view of what those scriptures said and meant then
mainline Judaism.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Okay. So that's just some background, right.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So it's not as though the Book of Enoch was
created by the Kumran sect and they wrote the whole
thing down, and they put it on a skull, and
they put it in a jar, and eventually it was
found in the late nineteen forties in the deserts in Israel.
They the book re existed them and they were quoting it,
and so it is an apocryphal book. And that's a
that's a genre of literature that was very popular in
(36:29):
the late BC era. Probably the most famous work of
apocryphal genre is the Book of Revelation, what you find
in the New Testament, written by the apostle John, and
so it's a it's a style of literature that has
a very specific objective in mind, and it is to
(36:51):
get you to look at the world through a certain
lens in a certain way.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
And they were very popular in Second Temple Judaism, right,
So the.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Period leading up to the arrival of Jesus of Nazareth
and the worldviews of Second Temple Judaism were very influential
over all of the authors of the New Testament, because
almost all of them were Second Temple Jews, right, with
the exception of Luke, who was Greek but hung out
(37:23):
with a bunch of Second Temple Jews, right, and so
that that worldview is very influential in the crafting of
the New Testament. And you actually the Book of Enoch
is quoted in the Book of Jude, right, which appears
in the New Testament. Right.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So all of this is interesting, right.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
But what the Book of Enoch is is it's what's
called a pseudopigraphal work. So it's attributed purposefully to this
biblical character.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Enoch, who is the.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
You know, father of Methuselah, great great grandfather of Noah.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So Genesis five, you go there, you see a genealogy.
Enoch has listened there.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
And then Enoch is unique because that Genesis tells us
that he walked with God and was no more.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
God took him. Right, So Enoch doesn't die.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
He has a relationship with God such that God just
sort of promotes him, elevates him without him experiencing death. Right,
So it puts him in a unique situation. He was obviously,
you know, if you would be you know, certainly reasonable
to assume he must have been a good guy for
God to have that level of appreciation for him. And
(38:35):
so this work is written you know, to the extent
that Enoch existed is credited as a historical figure. Just
thousands of years later, the Book of Enoch is written
and the author who you know, the author is obviously
unnamed because it's credited to this historical figure, but no
(38:56):
one at the time believed that, right.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
The suit of Pigger was another very common thing during
this period.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Where you would write a book and you would credit
it to some famous historical figure, because again, you're trying
to frame an argument, right, so you're trying to say,
this is the kind of thing that.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
A guy like Enoch, you know, would have said or experienced,
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Right, So it would be like, you know, you writing
a book today and having it published today and everybody
being known that you know, it was written in the
current period, and you're saying, but it's a work of
Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Right. You wouldn't be doing that to fool people. No
one would be fooled by that.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
But when they picked it up, they would say, oh, okay,
So this person is using a literary conceit of crediting
this to a guy like Thomas Jefferson because as a
point he wants to make. And so again that literary
practice was common in the Second Temple period. And so
the reason that people find Enoch fascinating is because it's
(39:56):
it talks about this group of angels that are known
as the Watchers, and these Watchers in first DNA, and
then there's a portion of First thing I known as
the Book of the Watchers, and they descend because they
find human women beautiful and they are barred from relationship
(40:16):
with humans by God. God says, nope, you're this kind
of created being. You stay here, you do these things.
Then there are these other kinds of creative beings, we
call them humans. They stay there, they do those things.
And while there will be some interaction between those groups
of My creation, you know, the actual inbreeding.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Is that we're not doing that. That's not allowed.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Right, So that God makes that draws that line, makes
that statement, and these Watchers are fully aware of that,
and they choose to rebel.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
And it's funny when you read it.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
They all get together and they're kind of scared to
do it, and they basically look at each other.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
And go, I'll do it if you do it. It's
like a bunch of high school boys, right, They're going
to drink beers in the woods. They all kind of
get together and go, well, you know, we know what's wrong.
We shouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
And it's going you know, we're probably all going to
wind up being punished heavily for this, but I'll do
it if you do it. And one of them says, well,
I'm doing it. And then there's a group of them
seventy who do it. And they have you know, they
you know, in breed with human women. And then they
have this offspring that the thing, as you put it out,
known as the Nephyleme. And what makes it even more
(41:26):
interesting is that group, the Nephylene are some of the
cause of the flood in Genesis six is attributed to
the existence of this group.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
So suddenly you take this.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Non canonical story of the Watchers, which is, you know,
there's a lot of detail in the Enoch version of
the story, and it is just sort of touched upon
very briefly in the early verses verses one through four
of Genesis six. And so when you're looking for an
(41:58):
explanation of the Nephilene, because you're reading the New Testament,
which many many more people do than read the Book
of Enoch, obviously, and so They're like, what are these nepheline,
what's going on here? Well, the story behind that comes
out of this Book of Enoch. And so the question
then becomes, well, what is this Book of Enoch, why
was it written?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
What did the author truly believe? Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Right, So, and so.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
When it's important to understand the cultural.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Context of Second Temple Judaism, Right, So, prior to the
exile of the Jews, which happens when the Babylonians, So,
the Assyrians had come and sacked the Northern Kingdom of
Israel in the eighth century BC, and those tribes of
Israel that were in the Northern Kingdom were dispersed because
that's the way the Assyrians did business as an empire.
(42:48):
They've kind of disappeared, right. And then the Southern Kingdom
of Israel, which was known as Judah, lasts another couple
hundred years, right, and then they are sacked by the
Babylonians and they become a vassal kingdom for a while.
And then the king that Neviganza put on the throne,
the Israelite king that nebucan az Are put on the throne,
(43:08):
screws it up, and Nevganza says, I've had it with
you people, and he comes in, he levels the temple,
and he takes all the stuff out of the temple,
to include the Ark of the Covenant, right, and so
this is just devastating to the nation of Israel. They
are exiled to Babylonia. Some of them remain behind and
in the Land of Judah to continue to work it
(43:29):
because you know, the Babylonians not idiots, right, I mean,
if there's land's going to be productive, somebody's gonna have to.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Make it productive.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
But they take kind of the cream of the crop
of Israel back to Babylon. And you get a number
of books of the Old Testament written during this period,
notably Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, Lamentations.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
And so there's.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
The Jews experience this exile, and they had maintained despite
the fact that the Old Testament prophets had worn them
again and again, they had maintained, well, as long as
we have the Temple and as long as we have
the Art of the Covenant, we're kind of bulletproofn invisible, right,
you know, where we're just these things are going to
ensure that we remain, and God had told them through
(44:13):
the pride, you can anybody can read this, and you
read the old Testaments all in there had said again again, Hey,
that's not true.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Okay, that's not the way the relationship works.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I don't work for you, you work for me, right,
And I've given you a mission and you're not doing
your mission. And so you know I'm going to strip
from you these things. And God then does that, right,
So the temple is destroyed.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
The Ark of the Covenant is very likely destroyed.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
I mean it's never seen again, certainly after Nepacanazer takes
all the stuff out of the temple. So the Jews
experience is exile and it is a existential crisis for
israelis a nation and Judaism as a religion, right, And
so they begin to ask themselves difficult questions like who
(44:57):
are we? Who is God?
Speaker 4 (44:59):
How does this cove with God work?
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Now that we don't have a temple, now that we
are as subjugated people, you know, how does this work?
And as they return from exile, so the Persians eventually
conquer the Babylonians, and the Persian king tells the Jews,
you can go home, right, And so I'm obviously synopsizing
a lot of history here, but that's what. So they
return to the land of Judah, they are given the
(45:24):
right to rebuild a temple. They do that, right, So
now I have the second Temple. This is the temple
that's around during the period of time when Jesus was around.
But their whole worldview has changed, and there's a lot
of explaining they have to do and sort of you know,
just just introspection as a people that they do, and
they are looking for ways to explain the reality they
(45:46):
see around them. And one of the questions is asked is, well,
where does where does this rebellion?
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Because obviously our rebellion against.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
God cost us big time, right, like we lost our
status as a nation, we lost our temples or identity, right,
and it was always a result of our rebellion.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Well, where does this rebellion come from? Why is mankind
like this?
Speaker 5 (46:08):
They're asking these big metaphysical questions, and one way to
express an answer is to write a book like an apocrypha,
which is what Enoch is right, And so maybe I
know you got to run Budy, so maybe we'll put
a pin in it for there and we can pick
it up next week. But the important thing is you
(46:28):
got to take it in its context, and you've got
to understand what the writer was trying to do. He's
not trying to explain necessarily or per se the rise
of technology.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
He's just saying, look, how did we get where we are? Right?
There must be some root cause of this.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
And so when you begin to look at the Book
of Enoch in that context, it begins to make becomes
much less mythological, it becomes much less you know, sort
of odd and weird and sci fi E FANTASYE, and
it becomes so much more philosophical, which was the point
of the author.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
So I mean, there you have it. There's there's your
Enoch minute.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
I think, yeah, I say, I would like to talk
a little more about this next week, because I think
it's being read literally by people, and that obviously is
a is a is a problem.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
But that's helpful. So yeah, let's let's touch on that
next week.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
And then obviously we'll continue to monitor the downward spiral
of Western civilization and go from there and maybe here's
some more of the Drake.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
There you go, We'll here's some more Drake.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Well, buddy, I mean look again, if you dropped into
this podcast, you got what you came for, all right.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I mean we have gone soup to nuts. We've we've
solved some political issues.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
We've described lunacy and if you're participating in that, you
should stop. We've addressed Second Temple Jewish apocryphal literature, which
you're not liable to get in very many podcasts at all,
let alone one that's already solved political problems. And so
if you're looking for more of that, you're in. I
got good news for you. We're going to do it
again next week right here on IP frequently.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
This has been IP frequently, once again, clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
You're welcome.
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I think you can.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I think you can, I think any. I don't think
almost any duck. But the duck has to be fed
oranges for weeks in advance.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So if it doesn't give fed oranges, it's it's out
of lock. You're gonna have some other type of duck.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You're gonna have.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't like duck duck. I had this conversation yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Do you have a conversation about eating duck? Yesterday?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I certainly did, But for some reason it came up
and actually, and I said, listen, I am not eating
any poultry that when you slice into it it's red.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm not doing it, not that uncooked. I don't want that.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
What poultry? So does duck that way? I don't need
a lot of duck myself.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Off.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I mean, not because I don't like it necessarily, but
it's just not common.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No, I had wait, did we have it? We had
a pot of food, didn't we duck? He made duck
lorange for us once?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Did he? Really?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I didn't need it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I thought that was it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Was one of the choices.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Okay, Yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't want duck. I don't want duck. I don't
want rabbit. I don't want pigeon.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
I don't bought an orange chicken, a chin or chicken. Yes, yes,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
In fact, there was some PF changs ordered in celebration
last night of the year Patriots game.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
I had.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I had some gluten free spicy chicken, which is phenomenal,
not good for you, but phenomenal, phenomenal. Well, they listened,
So yeah, Drake May obviously is the reason for the song.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It is.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know, it's tough because I have been through probably
the greatest sports winning streak in the history of sports.
And uh, and now we've been gifted by the heavens
Drake May and Roman Anthony to lead us into the
next ten.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
To fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Anthony the Red Sox superstar, superstar, Yeah, who tweaked his
back and missed the last three months of the season,
but that's fine. He's a fantastic and uh.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And then yeah, so that's where we are. It's uh phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Mean, I'm telling you right now, I'm just gonna say
this for the record, Drake May, as long as he
stays healthy, is going to be an m VP in
this league. He is fantastic. He makes all the throws
and if you just give him a running game and
maybe a couple more offensive linemen, he's going to be
in the in the conversation for best in the game period.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Drop that mic, you.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
May you may want to, you know, back a little
further away from the tips of your skis there.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
He's a he's a good quarterback. But it's the it's
as I've said, I'm on record, it's the coach.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh, the coach is terrific. Yeah, I mean, compared to
what we had last year, we had that halfway Mayo.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Last year, I mean, you would have been better off
randomly selecting a junior higher.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, that's what we did. That's what we did.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
He had, they had Mayo, and the hire that Dei
woman to run the football. I mean, I guess it's
still better than Belichick's girlfriend running it. I mean, but
but now you got you got football men in charge.
And again, I'm not against women. I love women. I
think women are very important in society, and I think
there are some some great ones Margaret.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Thatcher, my mom, my wife, not in that order.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But but they don't the woman. They hired for the
Patriots was a DEI person that was just there to
to promote the diversity and it's just bullshit, right, they
need to go and win the games.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, well that is sort of the point of athletic
competition is too if you can is to win, just
to play hard, right, I mean, if there's any any
young they weren't doing children listening.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
It's more important that you play hard, that you play.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Fair, that you know, play to the best of your ability,
and if that leads to a win, great, and if
it doesn't, you know, we'll go back to the drawing board.
But yeah, once you get to the professional level, you're
supposed to win.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So well they're doing that. The Patriots are absolutely doing that.
They're five and two, right.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
They are five and two. They're in number two seed
behind the Colts, believe it or not. And the key is.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Goltz are having an unbelievable season.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Goltzer cults are. I mean, there's something, but I'll tell
you what. The Patriots. The Patriots, it's one. A couple
of years ago, we had the mac Jones year where
we were like ten and four, went to the playoffs, right,
and then we lost the last three, but we went
to the playoffs. But that year, remember they went to
Buffalo one game that year and they threw the ball
twice and they ran the ball like fifty times in
(05:34):
the wind, and they won that game like.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Nine to six. And that was very fluky season. Very different.
This season.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
They're winning on the arm of the quarterback. The quarterback
is making all the freaking throw I've never seen anything
like it. And I don't know how that he felt.
The third in the draft, whoever drafted the Daniels and
the other kid before him, are fools. The kid from
Chicago fools. This guy is the real deal, and they
get very it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Didn't come from This happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
And Brock Purdy, who unfortunately hasn't played hardly at all
this season, is the contra example, Right, is that if
you go to a big program and a big school,
then somehow you're just better, which is odd.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
The scouts and the guys who do the draft at
the NFL level are supposed to be and largely are
very very good at their jobs.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Somehow they often fall prey to this idea. You know,
Caleb will Williams just having.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
A good year this year, I mean, the Bears are
pretty good this year, but because he was at USC,
everybody was like, oh, he's amazing. And then you got
Drake May who was a North Carolina which is not
a big program.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
See in North Carolina or Duke North Carolina right.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
North Carolina, NC.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, and so you know, I mean he just got overlooked.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
That's if he had been at USC and Caleb Williams
had been in North Carolina, he would have gotten one easy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, it's amazing because he got all the tape on
the guy that wasn't a COVID year. I just don't
I don't understand how they I mean, I'm thrilled they
did it. I'm thrilled it went down that way. And
I think you're probably right. But you know, the guy,
the guy, the guy's picking before him. Daniels has always
heard and Williams is not good. So but it is
what it is. You know, we just continue the dynastic run.
(07:18):
I did want to say this Saturday, I'm running around
town running some errands and I am here in Barrington
run On where it's lovely all today we're in the.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Middle of a big Nor'eastern type deal. So if anything.
If we cut off, that just means I'm out of luck.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I drove through like three feet of water after I
dropped the kids off at school today by the bay.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
On the road. So I made it through. I made
it through.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But I had to go get some some pizza for
my brother's birthday and give it to Marilyn Mooney and
marlow What marylnd Mooney?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
My brother Kevin.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
My brother Kevin is his birthday, so he likes Concerted
pizza from Providence, you know the you like that that rectang?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I actually do like that.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, that's how did you get it from the production
facility to your brother without it being you know, freaking
ice cold.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, I'm sure it was ice cold. I had to
go into Providence, which I don't typically do, and it's
a fifteen twenty minute drive. But it's just they're still
working on the bridge. There's traffic now on the weekend.
It's fine, Okay, it's fine, but I I had to
go meet my mother's cousin, Marilyn Mooney and her daughter Marlowe.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Is she also last named Mooney? Is it Maryland?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
She's gonna make she's gonna she's gonna marry name. Now
she's like she's like my age and the mother something
something else though, And so I had to go into
town to meet them at the pizza place where I was.
I made my mother some food that was frozen. I
gave her that, and then I gave her.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The pizza pizzas pizzas. Yeah, so I did that. But
then I come back.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
How do you do that on brand new tires?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, I didn't. That car is still out of commission.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I had to get my wife's car out of storage
and now I'm driving that, okay, Yeah, and uh so anyway, yeah,
so I make it. I make it to Providence. I
do that stuff. Then I go pick up Brook at Piano.
I come back and yeah, I mean so everywhere in
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the state at this point, there's this no King's rally, right,
the Trump anti Trump thing that they're doing.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's the most bizarre thing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, and they're and they're like blocking the intersection in
the middle of the day on a weekend. They're like
a couple hundred people And I'm sitting there and I
got my window open. Is a nice day, right, And
this guy is just this, this, this, and they're all
these are all everyone there has one thing in common.
They are white, white, primarily women, but there is some
effeminate men too. And although I did see Matt gets
(09:52):
met Gets posted a nice.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Video of these women in DC that he took like eight.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Chunky chunky, Can I say that sure, women who are
all in anti Trump shirts doing this dance like for
the No King dance. And Matt Getz made the point
of the dance. It was like it was like a dance,
some coordinated dance, all these white women, and and gets
made the point that look, if if they can continue
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this for forty five minutes a day for several months,
then maybe they can meet a man and get married
and become Republicans. He said, but in some cases it's
going to take a little longer than forty five minutes
a day. And he just made this this great comment,
and he was just he was just getting getting drilled
by the left on that one. But that was a
great analogy. I thought, that's what I saw too. I
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just saw a bunch of angry white people holding up
signs blocking the intersection, and all of them are like
fifty sixty years old.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, there were a few younger, not many, and well.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
We don't have a king, so I mean, you're protesting
against the abstract.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But it's just stupid.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Maybe they're protesting against the auto pen deal. And then
and then Trump in the middle of this whole thing.
I don't know if you saw what he posted, probably not,
but he posted this AI video of him standing there
and then putting a putting a crown on his head
and pulling up a king's cloak over his shoulders and
holding up his sword, and then in front of him kneeling,
(11:18):
We're Schumer and Pelosi like taking a knee, bending the
knee and uh. And then that drove everyone into a
tizzy and they got upset about that. But this guy
is just.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
So dumb, buddy, because that's what he wants. No, yeah,
he wants them to be upset. He's doing it for
one reason, to upset them, and they get upset every time.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
No, that's I mean, that's exactly exactly right. I mean
it is. It is.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Fantastic how he just trolls them and trolls them, and
these people are unhinged. I mean, these people are screaming
that they're fighting for democracy. And I'm like I told
my I told my I told my daughter, I said, well,
we just had an election. We just had an election,
so that's why, you know, we had a democratic process,
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and now we're going to protest the election that they lost,
which is what apparently they're frigging doing. But anyway, this
guy is holding up this sign. He's like wearing some
bright yellow windbreaker and he's he's yelling hauk for democracy,
and everyone is hawking except me. I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it. I got my thing out the window.
I looked at him and he looked at me, and
(12:29):
I just shook my head and I said to my daughter,
I said, this is pathetic, but this is what you get.
Like you're going to block the intersection on a Saturday.
Now I have to go the extra the extra distance
to go the back roads home because I'm not dealing
with this crap. And the guy then tries to engage me,
and he said, he said, uh, he said listen, he said,
(12:51):
what do you not care about democracy? Because I'm out
here protesting for democracy? And I said, I actually said,
I said, brother, I actually don't think you are.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And in fact, I think you're doing the opposite.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
There was just an election and at that point the
light turned and I you know, I could hear them
screaming in the background, and my daughter guess she ran
over them.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Gung yeah, but she got to chuckle out of it.
But these people are like unhinged, and that it doesn't
make any well.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
They live in an alternate reality. I mean, the sad
fact of the matter is is they believe.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
What they profess to believe, right, Like you know, sometimes
you run into somebody and they say, wow, you know
I'm for this or for that. You can just tell
they're really not. They're doing it for some other reason.
But largely through the advent of the Internet and the
particular aspect of what we call social media, you can
be convinced of an alternate reality.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
And I think most of these people truly are like.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
They honestly, I think if you dose them with truth serum,
they would tell you they think that Donald Trump is
in the process of becoming the king of the United States.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They honestly think that.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But it's the craziest is the craziest thing. I mean,
if you think about the first which he's been president,
what eight months, at nine months, In the first nine months,
he's I mean at least to this point, done a
lot of good, right. I mean, the Middle East thing
is historic. The other disputes is historical. We'll see what
happens with Ukraine. But the jury's aconomy is great.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Economy is doing great, Inflation is down.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, you know, the interest rates are finally going down,
the tax cuts are about to to take shape. And
then you look what he did the border. There are
no more literally no more crossings at the border. They
sent a reporter from CBS to the border a couple
of weeks ago, and I was watching the news that
night and they there's nothing happening that nothing, nothing except
they're building more wall.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I mean, there's literally nothing happening at the border.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
He's dealing with those drug cartels by blowing the ships
out of the water, which I think is freaking terrific.
And then he's going into the cities and making the
cities livable. He's done in DC, Memphis, they say crime
is way down. He's doing it in other cities now.
And I mean, what are these people? What are they protesting?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like what they do?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Were they protesting four years ago when we shut down
businesses and told people that they couldn't have birthday parties,
for their for their kids without taking six feet of
social distancing.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, that's it.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I mean, imagine being those people looking at Trump, who
is you know, engaged in the governance of the country
and in using US influence to leverage things like Middle
East peace, which is, you know, just become a metaphor
for the impossible, right, I mean, you know, it's like
(15:39):
they say, you know, two things that are inevitable at
death and taxes. If you want to use a metaphor
for the impossible, you say, well, you know, it's like
middle peace in the Middle East, and.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
He's actively working towards that goal.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
And let's say you no, domestically things are going better,
and these folks are are protesting that they should somehow.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He's become a king, which is I mean, there's just
what the evidence of that is. I have no idea.
But these are the same folks who just absolutely required.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
You to wear a mask which didn't do anybody any good,
forced you to take an injection.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Now, whether or not at work is not the point, right.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
The point is that nominally in this country we have freedoms,
and we decide whether or not we want to do
certain things and so they force you to take an
experimental vaccine. And at the same time, these are many
the same people who don't want to give their kids
like measles vaccines, which is you know, they're jumping up
and down hollering about we believe the science. Hey jackal
(16:40):
measles vaccines have been around for generations and they work gangbusters, okay,
And so I mean, it's just they live in an
alternate reality where consistency and logic do not apply right
where you can be pro one vaccine that has experimented,
I'll not exactly sure what it does, and then against
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another vaccine that isn't experimental, know exactly what it does
for no reason at all. And then the President of
the United States comes out and says, hey, there's been
some research that Thailand all might actually be linked to autism.
And then you got these women who if I were
their husbands, I would be I would I would I
don't know what.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I would do. I'm not going to go on record
as to what I would do, but it wouldn't be good.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
And and they're just pounding Thailand, all pregnant women pounding Thailand,
all because they hate Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
And then you point you go. Well, golly.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
A woman at Harvard published a study linking Thailand All
to autism, You idiots. Thailand All its the company that
produces Thailand All itself. It's come out and said, hey,
we don't recommend it, you know, for pregnant women. Yeah,
I mean, it's just there, and they're just shoving it
in their mouths like it's candy because the guy who
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broke the news happens.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
To be someone they don't like. I mean, you want
to talk about an alternate reality that would be like
someone I don't like. I don't know who who who
don't I.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Like AOC, I don't like her at all, saying you
know what, it's it's best if you don't stab yourself
with a knife. Yeah, just because she said it, I
just take out the biggest, you know, chef's knife I
can find and start driving it into my chest to
prove what point. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
It's crazy, buddy, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, and the and and that's exactly right. And I
don't like the Middle East thing is historic?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Historic? What was done in the Middle East?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Okay, that that is historic? And I mean, you know,
knock on wood, I hope it holds. But the fact
of the agreement and the fact of all these hostages
being returned, and the fact of Israel stepping back, it's uh,
it's it's front lines.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I mean, that's historic.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And you've got all these all these Muslim nations backing
that up, and no one gives a shit. I mean,
no one is celebrating that. And and that we should
be happy about that. I mean, the the the border
not being abused by criminals. We should be we should
all agree that that's a great thing. And you know,
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no one's saying there shouldn't be any immigration, legal immigration.
I think there should. But it's an amazing another amazing accomplishment.
I mean that these are facts. These are things that
are going on in the world now that are good
for this country, objectively good for this country. And it's
all about who gets the credit. If there were a
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different if this were Biden, right, I mean I had
some moron tell me there are people holding upside and
saying that the Middle East Deal was Biden's deal, saying
this is Biden's deal, and I'm like, what, what what
and that they said, well, yeah, he had this, this
was his plan.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Hid been blinken. They just couldn't get people to agree
to it. I'm like, well, then that's not his deal.
That's a fantasy, that's a click your heels and welcome
to Kansas. That's a fantasy that is not reality.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah yeah, but so so it's just the craziest alternate
reality thing. And I really hope and I you know,
when when when there are successes that other presidents have,
I cheer them.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
You know, that is a fact.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
And I I.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just think we've become so used to.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Rooting for whatever our team is, and we no longer have,
at least on the left, a party that reflects any
of the old values of the left, which were free speech,
which we equal opportunity, which we're making sure that you
had a taxism system that didn't punish people in the
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lower tiers of the earning earnings brackets and all that.
That's all gone and now it's it's just number one
message anti Trump, number two mess if Trump's for it,
we're against it. Number three message anti Trump, and that
that's it. And our Ukraine of course. But there's just
no coherent ideology that you can cling to to say, yeah,
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these guys believe in this, or these guys believe in
believe in that, and it's disheartening, and it really does
create this weird dynamic where no one's talking about the
issues anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's everything's personal.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Well, and because everything is personal, it is therefore become stupid, right,
I mean not if you don't like someone, define you're
not required to like them. You're not required to like anyone.
I mean, that's that's never been a thing. But you
have to be able in order for democracy to function. Ironically,
for these people, you have to be able to set
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aside your personal distaste for someone you know, for their personality, for.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
The way they live their lives.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
You have to be able to set those sorts of
things aside and say, okay, how can we work together
to you know, move the country forward or move the
planet forward. And this idea that well, if Trump does it,
it has to be bad. And if Trump says that
it has to be wrong, is just an insane way
to live your life. There are a lot of people
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who I would not want to live my life the
way they live their lives. I make very different choices,
you know, with the way that I try to be
a husband and a father than people do.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
But if they have a good idea.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Like if they say, hey, you know, there's a mac
truck coming, you should step out of the street.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'm very likely to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
That doesn't mean I have to change my opinion about
anything that I've previously said.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
But they stated a helpful fact and I listened to
it and said, oh, good idea. Right.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
These folks have just absolutely lost touch with what it
means to live in reality. If someone said if you care,
you're you're a pregnant woman and you care about the
health of your unborn child, and someone who is potentially
in a position to know says, hey, this material may
be dangerous to your child, you owe it to yourself,
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to your child, to.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Your family to say, okay, let me let me take
a time out here on my.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Use of this substance and research this and if it
turns out that it's just absolute nonsense, finding and go
back to using it if you choose to do so.
But if it turns out that, you know, Harvard Medical
School has produced a report that backs this up, and
that the company manufacturing the substance is also.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Going yeah, man, like you know, don't we don't recommend.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
This, and you say, screw all that because of the
person who said it, I'm going to poison my unborn child. Well,
you have just taken leave of your senses. I mean,
you've just departed reality. I don't care who you are.
And that's just one example of many of what you're
pointing out is that you know, this whole what do
they call it, buddy, Trump derangement syndrome is And that
(23:58):
is a thing. I used to think it was kind
of like a funny, you know, way to describe, you know,
people just hating Donald Trump. But no, I mean it
is a thing that could very easily impact the health
and welfare of human beings.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, it's TDS Trump derangement syndrome exactly right, Yeah, it's
it is.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's off the rails.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, there was some report over the weekend of
some guy in uh in the I think Georgia or
something shooting at a neighbor's house because he had a
Trump sign out, and you know, and then and then
they're now they're going after you know, Fetterman, who I
think is fantastic, the Stroke guy, and the Stroke in
Pennsylvania who actually came out and said the president should
be applauded for the Middle East deal. They're now primary
(24:46):
going to primary him because he's not radical enough. And
then that they I meanwhile, the socialist, the guy, Marxist,
whatever he is, the guy in Mandami in New York
City came out over the weekend that he has a
close relationship with one of those crazy uh nine to
eleven unindicted co conspirators, the guy who heads that mosque
(25:08):
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Who has preached death to America.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
And there are pictures of this guy as recently is
a year or so ago, where he's hanging out with
this uh, this crazy chic is it a chic or
whatever the hell they call the guy, the guy with
the hat, Yeah, whatever, the strange hat and uh and and.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And he's still gonna win.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He's gonna win the mayorship in New York because the
Democrats can't get their damn act together and nominate someone
who is in line with the values of a majority
of New Yorkers, not even the values of a majority
of average people, but even the left leaning New Yorkers.
They had to go with this crazy socialist, anti American socialist, lunatic,
(25:51):
anti semi vile human being who can't even can't even
denounce Hamas.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
By the way, because he's gonna win.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I mean, I mean well, I mean so therefore, the
majority of folks who are voting in New York, So
I mean that may not make the majority of New
Yorkers right, because you have to draw that distinction out everybody.
For some crazy reason, people who are eligible to and
capable of voting oftentimes don't.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I don't understand that. I think you should vote every
freaking chance you get.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
But you know, he's going to win, and that is
one of the great beauties of democracy, because the voting
people of New York are going to get what they deserve. Okay,
I mean all of these things that mom Donnie supports,
none of it is new, right, I mean Marxism, communism, socialism,
(26:49):
radical Islamic fundamentalism.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
None of that is new and all. Everyone who is
old enough to vote in the city of.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
New York is old enough enough to be fully cognizant
of the results of other places that have implemented policies
based on those isms.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You know what happens when you do that. It's been
demonstrated over and over and over again. There's no guessing
there's no you know what, we don't really know all
that's going to work out, has come up with something new. Nope,
it's all tried and failed. Isms is dozens of times
(27:33):
in dozens of different places. Right, So it's not even
like you can say, well, their implementation over here wasn't
that good, or this particular culture doesn't lend itself well
to that.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Nope.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
All these things have been tried many many times in
many many places, and they have universally failed.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And yet.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
The dopes who are going to elect this guy in
New York are I guess loo king in the mirror
and saying, well, we will be different. This will be
you know, we're going to click our heels three times,
and Marxism is going to work here in New York City,
and radical Islamic fundamentalism is suddenly going to become a peaceful,
you know, happiness inducing way of life. Fools, you're all
(28:18):
schools and you you're going to get what you deserve
because you voted.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
He doesn't even have the power to do this stuff
he says he's going to do right, like the taxation
and stuff. He can't even enact that without the legislature
of the state, and you know, just wait if he
gets in wait to see what the federal government does
over the next few years, because I'm telling you right now,
with the Trump administration in charge, you're just not going
to see the type of cooperation with New York. If
(28:44):
you have some radical, crazy socialist, anti American socialist running
the city, You're just not gonna You're not gonna see it.
But that's that's you know, we'll leave that for another day.
The one other thing I wanted to get to in
this episode. We talked about this briefly as you were
congratulating me, uh yesterday about my New England Patriots probably
(29:05):
being the best team in football. I think your word's
not mine, but I don't disagree. This Book of Enoch,
which is I think one of the one of the
scrolls found in Kumaran, right with the Dead Sea scrolls.
There's a lot going on about that, going going around
about that, with Joe Rogan taking a lot of time
(29:27):
to talk about whether or not the Book of Enoch, why.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well why I I don't listen to Joe Rogan, which
which is fine, I don't. I don't not listen to
him because I don't like him.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I just I just don't, well, how did this The
Book of Enoch is, you know, fairly fringe, So how
does it wind up being on.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
The on the Joe Rogan Show.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It originally came up a few weeks ago. I I
I listened to some of his shows, in particular if
they're about things that I find interesting. And uh, he
had he had Representative Luna, who's the former Beauty Hawaiian
Tropic Beauty queen who's now the Republican house member from Miami,
the Miami area, I think somewhere in Florida. And uh,
(30:10):
and she is heading up the JFK committee, right. They
named her to hit up the JFK committee.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And she's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
She's like getting documents released, and she's she doesn't know
much about the JFK situation, but she knows enough to
be dangerous and she's getting the documents released. But as
part of that she started, she also has on her
plate as part of that committee to release UFO files. Okay,
And so one of the things she and he discussed
(30:39):
on the program was whether or not the concept of
the watchers in the Book of Enoch, who I think
and you will learn much more about this, but as
I understand it, these are like fallen angels, whether or
not these are and they're giants, right, the giants. But
they said that that whether or not these these are aliens,
and whether or not they somehow imparted knowledge to humanity
(31:05):
that was somehow included weaponry and advanced space technology and
things like that, and and whether or not that that
interaction led to things like the Pyramids and led to
a lot of the things we don't understand about the
technology of ancient times being a little more advanced than
(31:27):
you know, creating questions for us as to how things
could be done in such a time where there weren't
the means to get things done, like the pyramids.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And so I thought it was an interesting conversation.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And then again yesterday morning it came up where he
was talking to some theologian about the Book of Enoch
and why it was excluded from the the the Old Testament,
and and you know, their theory is that it was
inflicted with the Torah, so the Jewish scholars wouldn't include it.
(32:05):
And so that with a lot of questions I had,
As you know, when I have a question about the Bible,
I go to mister Bradsheaf, and I thought it'd be
interesting for you to enlighten us and everyone on what
the Book of Enoch actually says and what you think
about some of these characterizations that they're making that are
going viral out there.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Well, okay, I mean, I'm happy to have the conversation.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I obviously didn't listen to the Joe Rogan program, so
I can't I can't speak to it directly, but I
can certainly address questions that you've asked. So to be clear,
the Book of Enoch is not an apocryphal book in
the sense that it does not appear in either the
Jewish or the Christian apocrypha, right, the books that some
(32:51):
aspects of Judaism and or Christianity accept as being canonical
except as being part of scripture, and some don't. And
so the kind of I think for most people in
the United States, if you know anything about the apocrypha
at all, it's because someone has told you or you
(33:13):
you know that in the Catholic Bible, there's a subset
of books that do not appear in the Protestant Bible,
and that is the Christian apocrypha, right, and they there's
a long story behind those books. They appear in the Septuagint,
and so therefore, when Jerome was translating Scripture into Latin,
(33:36):
the Pope asked him to include those books.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Jerome didn't want to do it. There was an argument.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Eventually the pope won, likely because he was the pope
and those and so therefore Jerome who headed up this
process of translating the Bible into Latin.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
It's known as the Vulgate, and they wind up in there.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
And so you see these books in the Catholic Church,
and oftentimes what you here is that they're pseudocononical, right,
so they're not accepted by everyone as being scriptural. And
you know, generally speaking, what people mean, both on the
Jewish side and on the Christian side is when something
is canonical and it's scriptural, is.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
That it is the inspired word of God. And so
these books are not accepted as necessarily being the inspired
word of God, but they have value. Okay. So Enoch
is not even in that category.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Okay, So there is a there are two There's one
sect of Judaism in Ethiopia that accepts Enoch as being
part of scripture, and there are two churches Ethiopia and
the Eritrean Christian churches denominations of Christianity, both in the
(34:51):
same part of the world. Again, Ethiopia and Eritrea that
accept the Book of Enich as being part of scripture
of the Christian Bible.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So no one else does.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
And the Book of Enoch is not a Dead Sea Scroll, okay,
So I want to be I want to draw a
distinction there. The Book of Enoch is quoted in the
Dead Sea Scrolls. So the Dead Sea Scrolls are the
written works of a radical sect of Judaism that was
around prior to the birth of Christ, and they separated
(35:29):
themselves from mainstream Judaism, and they lived about in the wilderness,
and they had a particular view of scripture, and they
so that in their writings you have quotes out of
scripture and then their commentary or midrash on the scripture
and the Kumaran Skulls, the Dead Sea Scrolls, this particular,
(35:53):
the Kuman sect of Judaism had had a little bit
different view of what those scriptures said and meant then
mainline Judaism.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Okay. So that's just some background, right.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So it's not as though the Book of Enoch was
created by the Kumran sect and they wrote the whole
thing down, and they put it on a skull, and
they put it in a jar, and eventually it was
found in the late nineteen forties in the deserts in Israel.
They the book re existed them and they were quoting it,
and so it is an apocryphal book. And that's a
that's a genre of literature that was very popular in
(36:29):
the late BC era. Probably the most famous work of
apocryphal genre is the Book of Revelation, what you find
in the New Testament, written by the apostle John, and
so it's a it's a style of literature that has
a very specific objective in mind, and it is to
(36:51):
get you to look at the world through a certain
lens in a certain way.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
And they were very popular in Second Temple Judaism, right,
So the.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Period leading up to the arrival of Jesus of Nazareth
and the worldviews of Second Temple Judaism were very influential
over all of the authors of the New Testament, because
almost all of them were Second Temple Jews, right, with
the exception of Luke, who was Greek but hung out
(37:23):
with a bunch of Second Temple Jews, right, and so
that that worldview is very influential in the crafting of
the New Testament. And you actually the Book of Enoch
is quoted in the Book of Jude, right, which appears
in the New Testament. Right.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So all of this is interesting, right.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
But what the Book of Enoch is is it's what's
called a pseudopigraphal work. So it's attributed purposefully to this
biblical character.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Enoch, who is the.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
You know, father of Methuselah, great great grandfather of Noah.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So Genesis five, you go there, you see a genealogy.
Enoch has listened there.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
And then Enoch is unique because that Genesis tells us
that he walked with God and was no more.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
God took him. Right, So Enoch doesn't die.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
He has a relationship with God such that God just
sort of promotes him, elevates him without him experiencing death. Right,
So it puts him in a unique situation. He was obviously,
you know, if you would be you know, certainly reasonable
to assume he must have been a good guy for
God to have that level of appreciation for him. And
(38:35):
so this work is written you know, to the extent
that Enoch existed is credited as a historical figure. Just
thousands of years later, the Book of Enoch is written
and the author who you know, the author is obviously
unnamed because it's credited to this historical figure, but no
(38:56):
one at the time believed that, right.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
The suit of Pigger was another very common thing during
this period.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Where you would write a book and you would credit
it to some famous historical figure, because again, you're trying
to frame an argument, right, so you're trying to say,
this is the kind of thing that.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
A guy like Enoch, you know, would have said or experienced,
et cetera.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Right, So it would be like, you know, you writing
a book today and having it published today and everybody
being known that you know, it was written in the
current period, and you're saying, but it's a work of
Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Right. You wouldn't be doing that to fool people. No
one would be fooled by that.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
But when they picked it up, they would say, oh, okay,
So this person is using a literary conceit of crediting
this to a guy like Thomas Jefferson because as a
point he wants to make. And so again that literary
practice was common in the Second Temple period. And so
the reason that people find Enoch fascinating is because it's
(39:56):
it talks about this group of angels that are known
as the Watchers, and these Watchers in first DNA, and
then there's a portion of First thing I known as
the Book of the Watchers, and they descend because they
find human women beautiful and they are barred from relationship
(40:16):
with humans by God. God says, nope, you're this kind
of created being. You stay here, you do these things.
Then there are these other kinds of creative beings, we
call them humans. They stay there, they do those things.
And while there will be some interaction between those groups
of My creation, you know, the actual inbreeding.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Is that we're not doing that. That's not allowed.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Right, So that God makes that draws that line, makes
that statement, and these Watchers are fully aware of that,
and they choose to rebel.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
And it's funny when you read it.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
They all get together and they're kind of scared to
do it, and they basically look at each other.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
And go, I'll do it if you do it. It's
like a bunch of high school boys, right, They're going
to drink beers in the woods. They all kind of
get together and go, well, you know, we know what's wrong.
We shouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
And it's going you know, we're probably all going to
wind up being punished heavily for this, but I'll do
it if you do it. And one of them says, well,
I'm doing it. And then there's a group of them
seventy who do it. And they have you know, they
you know, in breed with human women. And then they
have this offspring that the thing, as you put it out,
known as the Nephyleme. And what makes it even more
(41:26):
interesting is that group, the Nephylene are some of the
cause of the flood in Genesis six is attributed to
the existence of this group.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
So suddenly you take this.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Non canonical story of the Watchers, which is, you know,
there's a lot of detail in the Enoch version of
the story, and it is just sort of touched upon
very briefly in the early verses verses one through four
of Genesis six. And so when you're looking for an
(41:58):
explanation of the Nephilene, because you're reading the New Testament,
which many many more people do than read the Book
of Enoch, obviously, and so They're like, what are these nepheline,
what's going on here? Well, the story behind that comes
out of this Book of Enoch. And so the question
then becomes, well, what is this Book of Enoch, why
was it written?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
What did the author truly believe? Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Right, So, and so.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
When it's important to understand the cultural.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
Context of Second Temple Judaism, Right, So, prior to the
exile of the Jews, which happens when the Babylonians, So,
the Assyrians had come and sacked the Northern Kingdom of
Israel in the eighth century BC, and those tribes of
Israel that were in the Northern Kingdom were dispersed because
that's the way the Assyrians did business as an empire.
(42:48):
They've kind of disappeared, right. And then the Southern Kingdom
of Israel, which was known as Judah, lasts another couple
hundred years, right, and then they are sacked by the
Babylonians and they become a vassal kingdom for a while.
And then the king that Neviganza put on the throne,
the Israelite king that nebucan az Are put on the throne,
(43:08):
screws it up, and Nevganza says, I've had it with
you people, and he comes in, he levels the temple,
and he takes all the stuff out of the temple,
to include the Ark of the Covenant, right, and so
this is just devastating to the nation of Israel. They
are exiled to Babylonia. Some of them remain behind and
in the Land of Judah to continue to work it
(43:29):
because you know, the Babylonians not idiots, right, I mean,
if there's land's going to be productive, somebody's gonna have to.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Make it productive.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
But they take kind of the cream of the crop
of Israel back to Babylon. And you get a number
of books of the Old Testament written during this period,
notably Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, Lamentations.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
And so there's.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
The Jews experience this exile, and they had maintained despite
the fact that the Old Testament prophets had worn them
again and again, they had maintained, well, as long as
we have the Temple and as long as we have
the Art of the Covenant, we're kind of bulletproofn invisible, right,
you know, where we're just these things are going to
ensure that we remain, and God had told them through
(44:13):
the pride, you can anybody can read this, and you
read the old Testaments all in there had said again again, Hey,
that's not true.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Okay, that's not the way the relationship works.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
I don't work for you, you work for me, right,
And I've given you a mission and you're not doing
your mission. And so you know I'm going to strip
from you these things. And God then does that, right,
So the temple is destroyed.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
The Ark of the Covenant is very likely destroyed.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
I mean it's never seen again, certainly after Nepacanazer takes
all the stuff out of the temple. So the Jews
experience is exile and it is a existential crisis for
israelis a nation and Judaism as a religion, right, And
so they begin to ask themselves difficult questions like who
(44:57):
are we? Who is God?
Speaker 4 (44:59):
How does this cove with God work?
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Now that we don't have a temple, now that we
are as subjugated people, you know, how does this work?
And as they return from exile, so the Persians eventually
conquer the Babylonians, and the Persian king tells the Jews,
you can go home, right, And so I'm obviously synopsizing
a lot of history here, but that's what. So they
return to the land of Judah, they are given the
(45:24):
right to rebuild a temple. They do that, right, So
now I have the second Temple. This is the temple
that's around during the period of time when Jesus was around.
But their whole worldview has changed, and there's a lot
of explaining they have to do and sort of you know,
just just introspection as a people that they do, and
they are looking for ways to explain the reality they
(45:46):
see around them. And one of the questions is asked is, well,
where does where does this rebellion?
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Because obviously our rebellion against.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
God cost us big time, right, like we lost our
status as a nation, we lost our temples or identity, right,
and it was always a result of our rebellion.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Well, where does this rebellion come from? Why is mankind
like this?
Speaker 5 (46:08):
They're asking these big metaphysical questions, and one way to
express an answer is to write a book like an apocrypha,
which is what Enoch is right, And so maybe I
know you got to run Budy, so maybe we'll put
a pin in it for there and we can pick
it up next week. But the important thing is you
(46:28):
got to take it in its context, and you've got
to understand what the writer was trying to do. He's
not trying to explain necessarily or per se the rise
of technology.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
He's just saying, look, how did we get where we are? Right?
There must be some root cause of this.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
And so when you begin to look at the Book
of Enoch in that context, it begins to make becomes
much less mythological, it becomes much less you know, sort
of odd and weird and sci fi E FANTASYE, and
it becomes so much more philosophical, which was the point
of the author.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
So I mean, there you have it. There's there's your
Enoch minute.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
I think, yeah, I say, I would like to talk
a little more about this next week, because I think
it's being read literally by people, and that obviously is
a is a is a problem.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
But that's helpful. So yeah, let's let's touch on that
next week.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
And then obviously we'll continue to monitor the downward spiral
of Western civilization and go from there and maybe here's
some more of the Drake.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
There you go, We'll here's some more Drake.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Well, buddy, I mean look again, if you dropped into
this podcast, you got what you came for, all right.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
I mean we have gone soup to nuts. We've we've
solved some political issues.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
We've described lunacy and if you're participating in that, you
should stop. We've addressed Second Temple Jewish apocryphal literature, which
you're not liable to get in very many podcasts at all,
let alone one that's already solved political problems. And so
if you're looking for more of that, you're in. I
got good news for you. We're going to do it
again next week right here on IP frequently.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
This has been IP frequently, once again, clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
You're welcome.
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