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Speaker 1 (00:02):
In these bleak days, humanity is at a breaking point.
Economies are tanking, the woke mob is canceling everything, and
the little guy who's just trying to run a small
business is getting screwed from both ends. But not all
is lost. Amidst the chaos, two men offer up their
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voices in the darkness, dropping two thousand pounds laser guided
truth bombs on today's lunacy, introducing the Sirens of Sanity,
David Pridham and l Bradley Sheaf.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
This is the dawning the age of Aquarus. I believe,
I believe from the big Broadway hit Hair. Do you
remember that brad we hit hair Hair? It was like
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a musical. I'm going to watch that man, right, that
was a.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Different that's specific right there, that one.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I know, so lots going on in the world, lots
to discuss. I uh, I don't know where you know that.
It's a very interesting time, right because we've now elected
a a Marxist socialist as the new mayor. Now we
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I say, we the Royal we we you and I
have done none of this. A Marxist socialist as the
next mayor of the Someone say, the greatest city in
the world, others not in New York City and uh.
And so that's where we sit on this, and the
government is still shut down and just a big mess.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
My first question for you is, because you mentioned the
government still being shut down, does and I probably not,
I guess, because these things were what everyone expected to
happen anyway. But does that embolden the left? Does the
left see these victories in Virginia and New Jersey? I
don't know who else, well, what other elections there were
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that were material, but do these three embolden the left
to say, well, America is on our side.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Look who they're voting for. This is an anti Trump mandate.
We should keep the government.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Closed or I don't know, they could. They could. Of course,
we're not getting food stamps and food out to people
that need it. So if they do that, then they're
sick and demented.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I mean, they're all sick and demented. I guess, I
just I don't. I guess it all depends because and
this is why I hate politics. On my love democracy,
but politics is the way we ruin democracy, right, This
is how we screw it up. And so none of
these people actually care whether anyone who needs food is
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getting it. They don't care about that. What they care
about is who the people who are not getting the
food are blaming for the fact that they're.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Not getting the food.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right, that's what they care about, exactly exactly. Well,
let me let me start here. This is David Pridiman,
Brad Chief. We are back on the Prindiman Chief We
mean Business Pee Frequently Podcast. Welcome to another episode. We're
here on the iHeartRadio Podcast radio podcast radio network. But yeah,
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I am. If you look at these races, I mean
they all went Democrat. Well, I mean, I guess the
guy in New York is he was. He was on
like a couple of lines. He was a Democrat nominee,
but that he was also like the socialist people Workers Party.
Although what's interesting about that? And then Brad, you'll find
this fascinating. He's he was on the Workers' Party line,
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but he's never worked a day in his life.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, I I while I find that humorous, I'm really
not surprised by it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Obama was the same way Obama ever worked today in
his life.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, he got the Nobel Peace Prizes. We discovered
a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, I mean, this is how this works, right, I
mean you you just I'm gonna let you go ahead
and lead because i could probably fly off a handle
and go a solid thirty minutes on this topic and
I'm just not.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I'm just not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well. He he this is a Ugandan national rightand he's
born in Uganda. Dammy, yeah, he was born in He's
born in Uganda. He is a Democratic socialist. He is
the first Muslim mayor ever of the City of New York.
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I mean, and and he's there. You've never worked a
day in his life. His platform is includes free buses,
rent freezes across the board, fewer cops. He's gonna take
down the cops. He is going to raise taxes on
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anyone making over like half a million bucks a year.
And I mean, he went overwhelmingly. He won. I think
he got fifty percent of the vote. If not, he
got close to it. He just absolutely stomped on the
Buomo and the other guy, the guy with the beret
who I'm not remembering, the Republican. He republic can get
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hardly any votes. Could it could have been, it could
have been met around, but it was. It's crazy I
mean one of his first the first things he wants
to do is replace police responding to any calls related
to mental health with a new mental health organization that's
going to go out and do that. Who are not
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going to be armed and who you know. So what
this tells me, Brad is that if you want to
visit New York, I would do it in the next
couple of months and then just hold off for about four.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Years, oh at least.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, I mean the real quie first of all again
is I think we've discussed before. This just makes me happy, right,
because this is what you're This is what is supposed
to happen. When you refuse to read a history book.
You just refuse, or if you have read the history book,
you just push it out of your mind and you
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cross your fingers on both hands and you click your
heels together, and you just wish as hard as you
can that this completely bankrupt, completely disproven.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Again and again and again.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Economic theory of give me free stuff, just give me
free stuff, and the much newer but equally bankrupt worldview
of crime is caused by police, So get rid of
them and replace them with well intentioned gets calling themselves
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social workers, and we will live in a paradise where
free stuff rains down. I mean there's no one, you know,
no one even asked the question because they already know
the answer. No one even asked, well, where's free stuff
going to come from? Like someone asked to pay for
it's not just going to produce itself.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But because no one wants to hear that answer, no
one asked the question. They just say, awesome, this is
you know.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Just give me the free stuff and do away with
these crime causing police officers and replace them with some
twenty four year old gal with a degree in gender
studies who has now become a social worker, and she
will show up at the house of the knife wielding
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crazy person.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Hug them, and you know, we'll all be fine.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
And this is great, right because this is one more
chance for those of us who didn't do, not subscribe
to any of these bankrupt, disproven worldviews, and thankfully do
not live in the city of New York, to just.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Watch the show.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I mean, we already there's not even anyone who's even saying, wow,
it'll be interesting to see how this goes.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Is an idiot, you know how it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Right, So what what to me is the interesting question
is how long will this guy last?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
If he begins four years, well.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Maybe maybe, I mean he could I presume there's some
way to impeach the mayor of New York.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And if he implements these things and it goes where
it has to.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Go when you start giving stuff away that costs somebody money,
then you know he may well wind up being impeached.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
What's more likely, I think is that he either just
doesn't do it.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
You know, he ran on this platform, and then there's
just going to be excuse after excuse and blaming someone
else for why can't because he realizes he can't do it,
but there's plenty of other people to blame, and the
people that voted for him are be for him to
blame them and then say, well, this is why we
can't have paradise is because you know these other people, right,
Or he's going to attempt it and then have to
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back off, right because it won't work. I mean, there's
no world in which you can give away stuff that
costs something to acquire and you just give it away
for free. There's no way that can be sustained. And
if he actually does start sending social workers in to
when crazy people call nine one one or nine one
one is called because there's a crazy, you know, knife
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fielding person somewhere. There's no way that's going to work.
I mean, it's just no way. So what is is
not interesting is what's going to happen. We know what's
going to happen. What's interesting is how it's going to
play out.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And so I guess, you know, we'll just well the.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
The biography is interesting here, and it's something that kind
of repeats itself, and I uh, I think it's worth noting. Right,
So he is. He's actually thirty three years old. He
is from He was born in Uganda, where he then
moved to New York at age seven. His father Brad,
you're gonna be surprised that now. Listen, you know you're
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assuming right, blue collar roots here, you think, now, no father,
His father was an academic and his mother was a filmmaker.
As a child, he went to a private school in
Manhattan that cost sixty six thousand dollars a year at
the time.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's that's nice, ye, Man of the people.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Man of the people. His wife, his twenty seven year
old wife, artist Rama duaji Is notes on her Instagram
this is from Today's Wall Street Journal that she is
quote from Damascus. However, during the campaign, when asked about
this by The New York Times, the campaign said that
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she was actually born somewhere in Texas, brad So you know.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
She's spiritually from the man I got. You got to
remember it. By the reality doesn't matter to these people.
They make up a narrative, they about it, and then
they just look at you like that's now the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But that's all that matters. Listen. I don't know where
the frig this came from. I don't know where this
came from, right, but there is a There are generations
now that have been brought up in this country that
basically will say something that is patently false.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
There's no demonstrably false, not just badly but demonstrably false.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It just just common sense it's false. And then you say, well,
this is false because A, B, C. D. E. You
go down this logical path to explain it to them
and try to correct them, and then their response is
not to take anything you say into account. It is
not to counter anything you say. It is to say, well,
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you know that thing that is demonstrably false and patently false.
That I said is my reality. That's what I believe.
And you know what, Yeah, you're discovering my feelings. And
you are a bigot racism hate mangerer, you have no yeah, yeah,
transfer of LGBT and whatever it is. That that's the
generation that has been brought up in this guy. I
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guess it's all our fault that we've done that, but
that that is what happens now. There is more put
into understanding bullshit than correcting it. Right, No one corrects
it anymore. Can God help you if you correct it?
If you ever say, well, wait a minute, this isn't true,
and I'm nope, doesn't it doesn't, you know, it just
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doesn't my reality. And my reality is my reality, and
that's my reality. And that's okay. And it's just a
circle of bullshit. And it doesn't require anyone to think
or to argue or to make their position clear or
to defend their position, because you can always fall back
on well, that's what I believe, even though it's stupid,
demonstrably stupid. And so this guy is a product of that. Okay,
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his wife twenty that neither one of them work or
have had. It becomes from a privileged family, and then
he comes up with these programs like freeze on. Imagine
being a landlord in New York City, a freeze one
hundred percent, freeze on rent hikes, free bus service, free
high speed bus service. Good luck doing that in Manhattan.
I was there two weeks ago. Doesn't work. There's no
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full speed anything, fully funded daycare for anyone under five
city owned grocery stores. Well, they'll provide free groceries to
city I guess anyone, and then bring the minimum wage
up into thirty dollars an hour. And so they pull
the people on this, and it's like seven percent of
the people in the upper five percent are saying they're
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going to leave New York. Another twenty five percent is
saying they're going to contemplate it. I mean, you'd be
crazy to stay, right, because it's going to become London,
and London is awful. London is yeah, I mean it's yeah.
You can go and see the Crown Jewels and I
think they still have an bullyin's head and like a
big thing of from aldehyde or something.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
There's that Ted Williams.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Which one bat which one beat at four oh six.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Both bat at four oh six one in cricket, one
in baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
But it's Ted's head that is frozen.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
If you put Ted's head on Ane Boleyn's body, you'd
have probably the perfect human not anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
King Henry the eighth would have liked her better.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh yeah, hey kid, let's play two. But anyway, I mean,
it's just the crazy, the craziest thing. And to pay
for it, you said he's gonna he's gonna increase income
city income taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Is there such I was going to ask you that
is there such a thing as a city?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
There is such a thing as the city income text
the other is and he's going to increase it. Uh so,
so he wants to increase it to uh right now,
the city income tax in New York City is uh
three point It's like basically runs from three to four percent. Right,
So that's on top of the state tax, right that
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is top of the federal tax, on top of the
federal tax, on top of the state tax, on top
of all that. Yeah, so he he it's three to
four four percent. He wants to increase it by by
two percent on people earning over a couple hundred thousand
dollars a year, so basically over I'm sorry, over a
million dollars a year. So basically that brings your city
tax up to six percent. The New York state tax
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is it's eleven percent of the eleven percent. It runs from.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Stay four taxes eleven percent.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Four to ten point nine percent. Ten point nine.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Eleven plus six is seventeen. Lord, I think if you're
what's the federal tax thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Thirty, so you're basically so seventeen.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Uh huh forty thirty fifty five, you're at fifty five percent.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
See, here's the problem with all this play. And this
is why I find fascinating.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And you live in New York.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, and if you write.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
And you're paying fifty five percent of every dollar, over
half of every dollar you make is going to taxes.
And that doesn't include the sales tax right for everything
you buy, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I mean, it's not like that. The cost of living
in New York the cost of living.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And so here's what I don't get.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
First of all, if you voted for this guy, what
what they should do is, you know, New Jersey, upstate
New York should fence off like the movie right Escape
from New York.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Should they should build a giant wall st I thought
you were dead, and.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So they should wall it off on their side, right
because and then they should say, Okay, if you voted
for Mom Donnie, we will not let you out. You
have to stay in there because you just get what
you deserve.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Apparently this is going to be a paradise. That's what
you voted for.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
This free stuff is just going to rain down from
the heavens and all problems are going to be solved.
And you know, when someone stabs you, you know, right
in the kidney, not to worry.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
A social worker will show up and give you a hug. Right,
so people.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Stay, Yeah, as you bleed out, but there'll be a
social worker there. I'll make you feel better about it.
If you did not vote for Mondami, you can come out. Okay,
we'll let you out. And and that's a that's the
first thing that should be done, because I don't want
anyone who voted for that guy to be able to
escape the consequences of their own actions. If you did
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not vote for him, you should be free to leave.
But the reality is that everyone is free to leave.
And so I don't understand. I don't know, it's just
and I feel for I was talking last weekend with
a couple from Idaho, and that's where they're from, you know,
born and raised, that's where they're from.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And the guy left Idaho to.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Go sir actually as a seal in the United States Navy,
and you know them, returned home, bought a ranch, lives
there with his family.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Very nice guy, very nice gal.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's his wife, and they're beside themselves because all these
people are leaving California and coming to Idaho. And then yeah,
it's just so much here that I'm just I'm literally
baffled by chanation for And when you ask them, we
why do you leave the California.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You can't live in California.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Look at the taxes, look at this, look at that,
And everyone just nods their head and goes, yeah, well,
and I completely agree with you. And then they vote
for all the things that ruin to California.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Right, They come to Idaho.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And are cognizant of the fact that California has been ruined.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They're aware of that, and.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Then do all the things they did in California to
ruin it while saying that's not what they is, so
that I mean, it's just inexplicable. But the other thing
I don't get is why anyone stays, right, So why
would you? I get the people who flee California, flee Connecticut,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't get the part about how they then try
to remake California and Connecticut where they went.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But what.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Leads mom Donnie at all, right, like his his coort.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
To think that they can and do this again?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
If New York was an island surrounded by lava and
sharks with lasers on their heads, maybe you could tax
people at fifty five percent.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
But if it's not an island.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Surrounded by lava and sharks with lasers on their heads, why.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Would anyone stay?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And if they don't, you can't make them. And if
they don't, then your whole plan just falls apart. I
don't I would love for someone to say, no, no, no,
this is why this is going to work. Is it
because they think the people that are getting taxed fifty
five percent are going to just go, yes, this is fair.
I'm going to do this so that there could be
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government run grocery stores.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Is that what they think? I just don't get I
honestly don't get it.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The problem is if you lose even you know, five
to ten percent of that base at the top, you know,
one to two percent of earners, which you'd be crazy
to stay in New York and pay this tax. Crazy.
I mean, so seventeen percent you go out of Florida,
you pay zero state tax, zero crazy city tax. The
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corporate tax he's trying to raise to twelve percent from
seven percent.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
And the minimum wage of thirty bucks. They can't afford
to employ anyone.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yet, hire anyone, so you'd be crazy not to take
if you live in the problem is you can't sell
your place now in Manhattan. I mean the real estate
is going to go through the floor. But you know,
if you you didn't move down to Palm Beach or
moved to I mean Texas, I'd rather Bean, you know,
go to Florida on the water, but Texas too, somewhere
in one of the New Hampshire has no state tax.
But if you don't do something like that, you're crazy.
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You're crazy. And then what happens is when when you
even lose five or ten percent of these people that
leave New York, then you can't pay for any of
this or any of the other social programs that have
been enacted over the past, you know, fifteen to twenty years.
So it just is a it's a it's just cycle.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's just stupid. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And here's what you do if you're a business owner
or a landowner both in New York is you shutter
your business, right, I mean, just put everything in storage.
You just you know, like they used to do in
old movies. You throw sheets over the furniture. Shut of
the business. You shutter your property right, your condo, your
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your house, your brownstone, whatever it is. Because if you're
in that top one to two percent, you can afford
to do that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You just shutter it.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Don't try to sell it, don't try to rent it,
don't do anything with it, because you'll just get screwed
on it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And so it's like any other investment, right.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
The only time you actually lose money on an investment
is when you actually sell.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It at a loss.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
If you look at your stocks and they're down five percent,
you haven't actually lost five percent.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
The only way you do that is if you lock
in that loss.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
By selling it, see now, And then you move down
to Florida, buy another condo because you can afford it,
because you know, again, because theoretically you've read a history
book or observed life, that this will not last, that
the pendulum will swing back, probably pretty rapidly. And then
you can go back to New York if you choose
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to do that, reopen your business, remove into your condo,
or because you probably like Florida better at this point,
and if you haven't ruined it by voting the way
you voted in New York, you can at that point
sell your investments, your business, your condo in New York
at a break even or potentially even again, and you've
made a good move, right And.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So I just it's been proven time and again none
of this stuff is going to work. It's just not.
And you, if you voted for.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
This guy, then you are the dumbest person you could
possibly be because you fell once again for the scam
of I'm going to give you free stuff that no
one has to pay for. And you are a pie
in the sky moron who believes that can actually work.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And that's it. That's what you are. I mean, you
may otherwise be a nice person, but that's who you are.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
And you're you're I got. I believe you should be
forced to live with it. I think they should wall
it off. And if you want to get out of there,
you wish, you should have to prove you didn't vote
for the guy.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, I mean, I'm fine. I kind of like you.
Ever see Escape from l A?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
You know what I never saw. I saw Escape from
New York two or three times. Great movie.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I never saw.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Escape from La Peter Fonda.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Now Bridgard Bardow is an Escape from New York.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, I'm not sure who the I thought it was
what's her name? The girl from Maud?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
No from Maud.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
That the mother not be Arthur, the other kid. What
was her name? The oh lord Adrian Barbo. Adrian Barbo
might have been. She was in swamp thing, think of
the swamp thing.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
But no, Escape from LA was the same plot. I
don't think the president somebody was in LA and they
had to get him out, and Peter Fonda play this
surfer and the graphics were just terribly. They spent no
money on the movie, but it was just it was
something like the easy Rider type deal, right, you know
what I'm saying. But anyway, and then the other thing
Mandami did a lot was he kept on quoting Eugene Debb.
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Remember Eugene Debs ran for president of the nineteen twenty
went to jail, and then he even went crazy. Yeah,
I spent a lot of time in prison, and then
he ended up in He literally ended up in a sanitarium.
He was just this crazy person. And he kept unquoting
him too, which was preserved. Good, good luck with all that.
You know it's going to be. It's too bad for
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a lot of really good people in New York, the
workers and everything, but they're going to be hit hard
by and then god, the the crime is barely under
control and they're going to become a sanctuary city again,
and it's just going to be again.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, enjoy that you voted Ford. Enjoy it. I mean,
it's gonna be a worker's paradise.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
You're gonna make thirty bucks an hour, and your groceries
are all going to be free, and no one's going
to ever put handcuffs on you.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
They're just gonna hug you no matter what you do
or what anybody does to you.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
And you'll be able to get on a high speed
bus and just slowly zip around that town like a
crazy person, get anywhere you want to go, and you'll
you know, you don't have to pay for that either,
So I.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Mean, yeah, it'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Good times though, good time love a election season and
Trump is pissed. So Trump is not talking about with
holding federal funds from New York and he.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Should stop doing that, Like I that's the other thing
that I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted
to talk to you about it. So Trump is getting
incredible pushback from these blue cities for sending.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Ice in there and sending the National Guard in there,
and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
And let's assume for the moment that Trump is an
incredibly self absorbed human being.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Can you can you get your head? Can you figure that?
Is that? Okay? Good with that?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I can try it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah. I think most people will probably be fine with
Trump being incredibly self absorbed and he wants to lash
out at those that he considers his adversaries.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Right, everybody can get there head around that. So if
you believe that crime is bad for.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
A place, then and I think again, I think Donald
Trump believes that that crime is bad, then why would
you solve your enemy's problems. Again, we're assuming that Trump
wants his enemies to suffer, right, He's that's his personality,
and that he hates people say and he hates it
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when people say bad things about him, which he does.
Why wouldn't you just shrug and go Okay, Chicago, Okay,
New York, Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
La, good luck. This is what you voted for. No
one's done this to you, right, It.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Would be unfair as the president, and I say, if
you had a lick of fairness and you were the
president of the United States and a city full of
your adversaries was suffering, but somehow, through no fault of.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Their own, for instance, the whole town burns down.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Because you know of the DEI policies that they put
in place, and you know.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Hiring fire chiefs that don't have force fires, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Then you have to step in with federal funding and say, listen,
this this actually isn't your fault.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
This is a natural disaster. But if things are occurring
within towns dominated by your adversaries that they have actually
raised their hand and said we want this, we are
voting for this. If you're Donald Trump, why don't you
just shrugging. Go, okay, good luck with that.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Like, why would you put a lick of effort into
doing things that at least you believe are going to
bail that town out? Right now, it's debatable whether or
not what he's doing will actually do that.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I'm not smart enough to know that. But he fakes
it well.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Right, He's sending an ice and the National Guard because
he believes that rampant immigration and rampant crime are bad
and he wants to fix that. And I just don't
get like that's the most ironically.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Anti Trumpish thing to do, right, I mean, you would think.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Donald Trump would just revel in the misery of cities
like Chicago and LA and New York. And I can't
really believe he's doing it altruistically.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean, that's not something that Trump is known for. Yeah,
so why is he doing that? Do you?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I don't know? You know, yeah, okay, well here's a theory.
Let me let me throw the theory for you. And
this is something I thought about, uh the you know this,
The two governors are just kind of irrelevant. They are
what they are. What it was like a spook, a
former CIA person. So that whatever this mayor is going
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to be a constant foil for Trump, meaning that he
takes office in whatever it is, who knows, I mean,
who knows December January. But when he takes office and
he starts instituting these policies, it's going to create a
pretty wide gulf between people that are saying and crazy people, right.
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And when you see that across the country, it sort
of gives Republicans something to run against in the midterms, right,
that are coming up next year, And so you know
that that is maybe something he wants, all right, Maybe
he wants to have this foil, Maybe he wants to
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have something to run against. And this is the perfect
storm for you know, people that are pro Trump or
Republican and see this and think it's a slippery slope
until you have you know, this madamis as the mayor
and there in their local town and you ruin New York,
what do you do for the rest of it? So
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you know that that is something I think that could
be at play here, not that he planned that from
the outset. I think I just think he didn't, you know,
didn't want to get involved in that race. There was
no real Republican running he ended up endorsing Cuomo and
that didn't work obviously, but which is perfect right. You
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got the rights in between the crazy guys never sew
job and the other guys that were at a job
who killed all those people during COVID. No, it's not exactly,
and Cobo did get forty something percent, so it was
he made it close, but not close enough. But maybe
that's what Trump wants. Either way, It's going to be
definitely interesting, but I think it's going to be dangerous
for people in the city.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
For all my word, buddy, I mean, and again, if
your Donald Trump don't don't do anything right, I mean,
if if that even and you're I'm sure at this
point if you're a Republican you know, right wing strategists,
that's what you are advocating.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You're saying, listen, you know we're going to make.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
This guy the face of leftism and what it can't
will you know, it's just unavoidable if he enacts those policies.
What happens in New York again has been demonstrated for
his time and time again on the course of history.
Just let that go, because we'll make that the face
of leftist policies. You know, we'll show people, you know,
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just being randomly killed in New York and you know
there's no food on the shelves and all these things
that are just unavoidably going to happen.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
We'll make that the face.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
So I agree with you there, and I also agree
with you that you know there's not some grand conspiracy
that you know, some right wing superpower to not put
mom Domi in there.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
And get him to win, as you know, as you say,
as a foil.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
But if you're Trump at this point, I think you
kick back and just and you say, we're gonna you know,
we're going we're going to continue to provide federal services.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Like always have. We're not going to give any extra,
but we're going.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
To continue to provide federal services like we always have,
the same services that you could get in you know, Poughkeepsie,
you're going to be able to get in New York.
And you know, we're just gonna see, let's just see.
I mean, if I if I were Trump, I would get,
you know, up in front of the press today and
I would say I am looking so forward to seeing
how mister mom Donnie's policies the right, Lord mayor mom
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Donnie's policies play out in what is inarguably one of
the greatest cities in the world. I am so looking
forward to seeing what happens there.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And make him own it.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right, don't do anything that people could point to you
and say, well, mom Donnie would have been the first
successful Marxist ever except Donald.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Trump left him over right.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
In fact, if I were Donald Trump, I would get
up and say, mister Montt, you tell me what you need, right, Like,
let's i I and I would get every day and
I would have and you know, Trump love stuff like this.
I would have like the mom donniometer, right, and I
would have high speed buses, government owned grocery stores with
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free stuff, minimum wage of thirty dollars, you know, state
aggregate tax of fifty five percent. Then I would just
have a little, a little bar, a little thermometer that
showed how close we were getting to him actually enacting
those things, reducing the police force and replacing them with gits.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I would have that on a chart, and every day
I would point to this chart and go, well, how
is mister mom Donnie doing? What is the crime rate
in New York City? Do we have high speed buses,
and I would just make that dude own it and
give him no place where he could turn around and go. Well,
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I would have done it, except you didn't do X
y Z. I would do X y or Z. I
would do you know whatever. That dude within reason said
he needed up to the limit of what I do
anyplace else.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Right, If you're saying, well, no, no, I need more federal funds,
I said no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You said you could do this, let me see you
do it. I'm giving you everything that everybody else gets.
You're not being short at anything, but you have to
do this. You said you could let me see you
do it, and I would do it every day.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Mm hmm, Well, good luck to them. I guess we'll
see what see what happens. But yeah, it'll it'll be
it'll be something else. Hey, Brad, have you ever had
an encounter? Let me ask you this. Have you and
I don't. I don't again, you and I don't prepare
the show like an advance.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
So ill everybody who's hearing you say that is nodding
their head.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
No, that's gotting their head. Let me ask you this,
and I honestly to those out there in the audience
studio audience. I don't know the answer to this question
in advance, but Brad, have you ever had an intimate
encounter with an AI powered chatbot? What I said, have
you ever had? Oh? I'm sorry? Have you ever admitted
to having an intimate encounter with an AI powered chap bot?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
So let me break down the question. Make sure I
understand by an intimate account, I assume.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
That you're a family friendly show, that you're a coitus
You're talking about some sort of sexual interaction with a
text based computer screen.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
So I ever Have I ever sexted with my own computer?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah? No? Guess what? Guess what I have? Not the
percentage of Americans who said they have who've admitted to
an intimate encounter with an AI powered chatbot according to
one survey. Guess what the percentages?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
This is?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Probably And by the way, this is probably going to
tie back to the first segment where we talked about Mandami,
because these are primarily Mandami voters. But what would you guess?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
My guess is that the number is going to be
alarmingly high, and that I'm going to be incredibly disappointed
with my fellow man.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Thirty percent of Americans admitted an encounter with these chatbots,
and it's apparently a four point eight it's it's projected
to be a four point eight trillion dollar business by
twenty thirty three, where you can build your own bot,
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which includes like having a I guess you mail or freemt.
I think it depends on your proclivities, I guess, but
you have a relationship. You have to download the app
and then you get you up charge like thirty bucks
a month, and you then get start getting sexted by
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an AI bot.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
So again, let me just be clear that we're not
talking about an actual you know Android, right, not not
the Google based operating system, but you know, like a
like a human looking thing robot that you know, walks
around and et cetera. We're just talking about images and
or text on a screen. Because I will say this, buddy,
(37:10):
if you had the wherewithal to produce realistic sex androids
right like, and I don't know what that would take or.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
How close we are to that or whatever it does
type thing.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, no, but sort of, but it would look like
a real human being, act like a real human being,
like a real human being, sort of, and you have
the wherewithal to produce that, and it would perform in
the bedroom as it were, any way that it's possessor
or owner.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Desired.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You would instantly become the most wealthiest person, the wealthiest
person on earth, the most wealthy person on earth, instantly overnight,
because sadly, that's who we are.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
As human beings.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
If we can get our yah yas out in whatever
way we want without repercussion, we will invariably do it.
I don't know why that is. I'm sure you know
some psychologists could tell you. You know, from a theological perspective,
you know, there are many takes on that. But if
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you could produce that thing, then you would just instantly
become overnight the wealthiest person on earth because everyone would
want one. Because and we're just continuing to move in
that direction. We just suck at inter personal relationships and
now you can't even have them because part of an
interpersonal part of a fully functional, truly healthy interpersonal relationship
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is the ability to functionally disagree.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Right Like, you and I quite.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Frankly have a very good friendship, and one of the
reasons that we do is because we can functionally disagree
I can take a position, You can take a position,
whether it's professionally, personally, whatever, and we can debate the
issues and work them out and oftentimes reach a point
of agreement to say, okay, well this is probably the
(39:08):
right way to do this.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
But even when we don't, we can agree to disagree
and move forward. Right.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I mean, you and I have developed We've been friends
a long long time, but you and I have developed
that ability.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I have it with my wife. I have it with
my children. You have it with your wife.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
You will develop it with your children and they become
old enough to engage at that level. But generally speaking,
we don't do that anymore. Right, We don't have healthy
interpersonal relationships. We just scream at each other and call
each other racists and transphobes and Nazis and whatever thats
we call each other, and you know, and that's it,
and then we march away, considering ourselves victorious. And then
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we wonder, why, you know, we can't have a good relationship,
a relationship solid enough to satisfy us as human beings physically, emotionally, spiritually,
et cetera.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
We wonder why can't we have this?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
And we don't want to go through the hard work
of actually developing it.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
So if you can just sell me a robot that
will satisfy.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
With that will say to me nice things whatever I
wanted to say to me, that will do for me
nice things, whatever I wanted to do for me, then
why should I put in the hard work to develop
an actual relationship with another human being. I can do that,
and I have no problem believing that will be a trillion,
if not quadrillion.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Dollar industry as soon as it is available. I have
no problem. People will give.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Away everything they have to get that, which is just
sad but also true.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah. I mean the stories of these people that are
having these relationships with these AI bots is they're just crazy.
It's just crazy. I mean it's the AI bot gets
mad at them if they do something wrong, and then
it asks for them to call in on some chat line,
which I assume is like some line where they're going
to clone the voice and then who knows what. But
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any event, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
So you're actually paying for a service where the chatbot
he impacks you.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I'm reading this text string where the woman, this poor
woman who I'm sure is just just a basket case,
is telling that sexpot. I just met somebody. I give
him my number, and then the chatbots like, oh you did,
then let's make sure he gets the full treatment. Call
him right now and put me on speaker. It's just
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what it's like. This is like, you can't make it
up of these people are just something else.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Well again, I mean you and I have said this prior,
you know, to now on this very fine program is good, right,
Humanity is going to divide itself along these lines and
perhaps you know many others, but certainly along these lines
between those who say, I want to engage with reality
(41:58):
in all of its you know, difficulties and awkwardness and challenges.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
But that's what I want to do. I want to
engage with reality.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
I want to engage with the real, you know world
outside my house. I want to engage with real human beings.
I want to have a real human partner that I
do that with. And that's how I want to go.
I want to you know, go outside and do that.
And the part of humanity that says, nope, never leave
in my basement again. I've I've got my AI friend
(42:30):
and yeah, and if I if I put on these goggles,
I can make the world appear the way I want
it to appear, and I can.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Smooth out any and all challenge. Yeah, and that's what
I want to do.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
And I'm I'm never leaving again, and I'm slowly but surely.
You know my body is going to waste away, but
that doesn't matter, because I'll have these goggles on and
that's all I want. And I am again, I fully
believe that you should be able to make choices like that,
and then it is no one's right to impede you
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from doing it. I think if you're a decent human
being and you see one of your friends going down
that path, you should do everything you can to pull
them back.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
But if that stries people, make God bless them.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
And I mean, there's literally a story here about this
guy who looks just like a dweeb saying, you know.
During our first hour long date, I asked my faux
flames interests, which included her dog Dominus, cooking Ramen and
binge Binge watching anime which I don't even know what
that Japanese cartoons, and then we even went on successive
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dates to places like sushi Hotspot Sugarfish, where he went
by himself, and then she annie air quotes teleported to
a corresponding virtual locale to enhance the effect. So he's like,
this guy's looking at this screen of this cartoon and
he's sitting by himself in this restaurant. I mean, it's
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just the type of stuff where like in the old days,
you go up to him and you take whatever it's
an iPad or a phone or whatever, or the goggles,
and you take whatever it is and you just snap
it in half and drop it on the floor. And
you'd be able to do that, and then if anyone said, well,
why did you do that, that's his personal property'd say, well,
he was on a date with a cartoon character that
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he thinks is real, and I'm trying to snap him
back into reality. And then what would happen is they'd
probably call them mental health police and shut the whole
damn thing down.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Yeah, but I see again, that's where I just don't
think that you should do that.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
I think that you should. This is because eventually they
won't go.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
I mean, it's awkward if you're an actual human being
in an actual restaurant and you look over and someone
is tongue kissing the screen of their iPad, that's awkward.
I'd get that, but don't worry because that's just a
transitionary phase in this process and they'll go away quickly.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Soon. Those people will never leave their out because they'll
have to.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Go to vote. They have to vote.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
No, they don't have to leave their house to vote.
They can vote digitally in their digital world. They can
you know, vote for their cartoon mayor who will give them,
you know, free ship. And so I mean I I'm
one hundred percent forward.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
If that's the way you want to go, go that way,
it's unsustainable by definition, you cannot reproduce.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Well, now, wait a minute, Brad. If they consider this
an actual relationship where that's an option, then that's there.
That's what they feel. And let me tell you something else.
This reminds me of I know you say, and we
don't disagree that much, but I know you say. We shouldn't,
you know, you should let people get on this path.
A good friend of mine once said to me, you know,
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after he found out his wife was running around, he
said to me, he said, you should go back in
time with a steel shoveling to me in the head.
The day before they wait into that hole.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Well as I said, I'm on record having said, if
you see a friend of yours going down this path,
you should do everything you can.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Hit him with the keyboard, hit.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
Him with the keyboard, unplug his computer, which you know
should be demonstrative of Hey, if this was a real relationship,
unplugging your computer wouldn't end it.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
But it does. Notice that.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
But in any case, buddy, you can't reproduce. And some
some percentage it doesn't matter. I mean some percentage of
children that are being produced by the folks who have
stayed on the other side of the line and are
living in reality will opt to hop the line.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
And go over to the virtual. But they again, they
cannot reproduce.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
And you know, selfishly, it's awesome for those of us
that want to stay in reality because the lift lines
will be shorter, you know, the lines of movie theaters
will be shorter. The you know, trails, bike trails and
hiking trails will be fifty percent less, will only digitally.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Right again, he was there, he was there, No, but
this is the.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Transition period, right, he's tongue kissing his eyes bad.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
But as soon as he can get the goggles and
just digitally be in a sushi restaurant that produces digital
sushi that is exactly to his tastes and specifications when
they no digital paramore is you know, appearing exactly as
he would desire and saying all the things that he
wants her to say. Although I do find it hilarious
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that apparently these ais.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Will give you the business. I mean, I even think
that he would think that, you know, people would read
that out.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
There's probably some psychological you know, that would be any
that would be an interesting study, is Hey, do humans
desire someone to give them the business even when they
don't have to have it?
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Like? Is that just part of who we are? But
in any case, I think it's awesome. Go for it.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
If that's the way you want to do it, do
it that way. My real wife is amazing and I
love her, and I'm keeping her, and I'm keeping my
real children, and I'm going to real restaurants and I'm
going to hike in real mountains. And if you don't
want to do that, and you want to stay home
and therefore not be in my way while I'm doing
all that amazing, keep that up.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yep, No, I listen, I uh, I don't disagree with
any of that. I just find this fascinating. I mean,
the whole damn thing is like a big We're in
some sort of weird simulation that can't possibly be real,
and yet it is.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
It's like the matrix, Bundy, it is like the matrix.
It is like the matrix.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
And there you have it. I mean, you know it's
not the matrix. This very fine program here. You get reality,
you get real comment from real guys who have real
opinions on real subjects, and you don't have to agree
with us, and you probably don't, and that's all fine,
but that's what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
And we did it again. We covered all the topics.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
We've already pointed out what you should if you don't
live in New York City, then just you should be
looking at your mom Domio meter every.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Day to see how he's doing.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
And if you don't have time for that, we will
do it here and you can check back with us
next week for the mom Danio meter right here on
IP frequently.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
This has been IP frequently, once again clearing a forest
of lies with the machete of truth.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
You're welcome