Ne-Yo’s Polyamory, Uncle Luke’s Viral Take on Black Women & Zeus Network Drama EXPLAINED!

🔥 The Episode That Will Have You Questioning EVERYTHING!

This week on Mental Man Monday, Izzy is joined by special guest Tevein El Chapo, straight from the East Side of Atlanta, bringing his raw, unfiltered takes to the discussion. Together, they dive into some of the most controversial and eye-opening topics of the moment—from Ne-Yo’s polyamorous lifestyle to Uncle Luke’s viral statement about Black women and the Zeus Network drama that had social media in a frenzy.

What’s Inside This Explosive Episode?
Ne-Yo’s Polyamory: Lifestyle or Harmful to His Kids?
Ne-Yo has been making headlines for openly having three girlfriends, but his baby mama, Sade, isn’t here for it—she doesn’t want their kids around it. His response? “They need to know because this is who I am.” But is this real transparency, or just a way to justify his choices?

• Should kids be introduced to polyamory at a young age?
• The Bible mentions polygamy, but does that mean it’s right?
• Is Ne-Yo leading his family, or is he just doing whatever he wants?

Uncle Luke Says Hispanic Women Treat Black Men Better—Was He Out of Line?
Nobody asked, but Uncle Luke decided to share his take anyway—Hispanic women treat Black men better than Black women. Is this an honest take, or just another divisive statement made for clicks?

• When does speaking your truth become irresponsible?
• Does experience justify public statements, or was this unnecessary?
• What happens when God calls you to speak on something uncomfortable?

Zeus Network’s Reality TV Gone TOO FAR!
Aaron, a plumber known as "Pied Piper," went viral after blowing up on Erica Mena when she playfully slapped him. But what if the roles were reversed? Would people still defend him?

• Did he overreact, or was he justified in his response?
• Are people “crashing out” because of how reality TV fuels drama?
• Has Zeus Network crossed the line from entertainment to pure toxicity?

Final Questions:

• Is Ne-Yo setting the right example for his kids?
• Did Uncle Luke’s statement hold any truth, or was it reckless?
• Has reality TV gone too far, or are people just too sensitive?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:30):
So y'all, we are back for another Mental Man Monday
live stream.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You like my banner, my overlay?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
We getting in the overlays this season. I never really
use them, but all the people, the virtual YouTubers and
other podcasts that I'll be seeing on you on YouTube,
they have a lot of overlays. This one was came
with it. This one came with us. I'm gonna just
use this one from my live streams. We're gonna have
one four when I have just peer interviews on the
podcast coming up for season nine. And then because I

(01:00):
try to stay consistent, I've already recorded a few episodes.
The experts, they're not gonna have no overlay until after
the second, after halfway through the season, only because I
like to stay consistent and I've already recorded something, so
basically experts don't look the same. The live stream gonna
have this, and then the peer the peer interviews are

(01:23):
gonna be like they're gonna have their own overlay, which
I actually designed with.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Campbell.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Took a long time because, like I said, design and
stuff is not my thing, Like I can describe it,
and I'd rather have somebody do it for me, but
to actually just do it myself was insane and I
did it like it's probably took me an hour to
do that, when it probably would have took somebody who
can do that, probably twenty probably fifteen minutes. We're about

(01:51):
to get to start with today's episode. I'm pretty excited
about it because we got somebody who it's pretty funny.
I don't know if he realized he funny, but he funny.
Were about to have him on heat and turned thirty,
he had a birthday. Met this guy at Podfest in
February January, January January, and like I said, we've been

(02:18):
cool ever since. That's not that's not abnormal for me.
Everybody knows I talk to people on the internet all
the time, so you know with podcasts obviously was you
know in person, but you know, it's this on brand
for me. But he has his he's an has his
own podcast. He also is good with the YouTube channels.
He also has like a what's what I want to say?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
He has a.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
His own brand that he pushes, and he also helps
produce other podcasts as well. So it's it's very rare
that I meet another. Of course his is on a
grander scale of mine, but I meet another podcast who
also is a podcast producer.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So let me go ahead introduce him.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Make sure you say happy birthday to him, even though
his birthday was like a day two days ago.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
But yeah, yeah, I got what's going on? What's going on?
What's going on? Hello?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Everybody is telling the chapour friends call me chop what izy?
Thank you so much for having me on your platform.
My brother, you know what I mean, you know, just
doing what I can, you know, getting that old age
to something went down, getting a little sleepy, but I
still made it here for you anyway.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
My brothers, you know, man had to come through for show.
Definitely I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And like I said, so obviously, you know, I always
got to do a slight introduction. So they you've already
said your name, So can you tell the people where
are you from?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And then where do you live now?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, well well that's a load of question. My family's
originally from Chicago. We moved to the east side of Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I e.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Lithonia, Georgia specifically, well first on Mountain then Lathonia when
I was about five years old.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I just turned thirty like two days ago. This is
pretty much all I know.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Georgia State University in downtown Atlanta, spent a lot of
time in Atlanta, lived in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
As well for years, end up coming back to Loton.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
You're living here, you know, which is not It's not
crazy far from Atlanta at all.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you know, a lot of.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
People who are from Atlanta, you know, considered this to
be borderline Atlanta, but it's not. I always want to
make sure clarify that. But yeah, you know, that's pretty
much where I'm at right now. You know, shout out
to all my fellow East Siders, you know, Stone Mountain
Decators on six.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
We're rapping, we're here. Do you know what Vicki. I've
heard of her, Yes, I ain't never met her in person.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, I just know she's from that area, I believe anyway.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Uh yeah, we got a lot of people. Man, shout
out to Gucci.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Uh, shout out to j I D with Dreamville, shout
out to all the people in two nine tee hood
and uh me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Shout out, shout out, shout out yourself. Okay, Now, as
I stayed in an intro you podcast, so it's very
rare to me. The podcast or who podcast produces as well,
So how many podcasts roughly have you done, and also
give a brief just description of what your podcast is about.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Ooh, I would say, I don't know, somewhere around like
fifteen so far.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So fifteen podcasts that I produce, you know, I would.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Say technically two of those would be my own, one
of which being my current podcast, which is chop Logic essentially,
you know, with me being a videographer viographer first and foremost,
you know, and then from there I pretty much learned
not only photography but also podcasting itself. I pretty much
kind of speak from that standpoint of things and just

(05:44):
kind of like different topics in the biography space in
terms of like just dealing with clients, different stories that
I've experienced. And then also we just bring on people
from the entertainment industry as well, like people who are
like THEE Loove viographers, you know, producers, photographers, lighting technicians,
filler podcasters, you know what I mean, like yourself as well,

(06:07):
and we pretty much just give them an interview or
you know, some episodes, maybe just a solo episode with
me just speaking on certain topics.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And then we also do trivia.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
So if we did the trivia right, you know, essentially
I would give the guests a cash prize. If I
get the trivia wrong, we get the cash prize to
the audience. So that's pretty much how we've been rocking.
But yeah, that's pretty much the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
You can check it out on.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
YouTube, you know at chop House Media Group. That's pretty
much not only the YouTube channel, but also the brand
the website as well. Just give you more details about
a lot of things that we do in terms of
producing podcasts for other people and also just like being
able to facilitate anything and everything anyone would need for
successful podcast productions.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
When I come to Atlanta, you should have me on
your podcast because I'm iin't gonna lie to you the
where is looking? I'm probably gonna be there at least
twice this year.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So question easy, just let me know where I will
say it up. I guess you all right. Bev been
good to hear it.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
All right, So we got the introductions out the way.
He hasn't been on the official podcast yet, but with
me revamping the podcast, going back to my roots and
incorporating more peer style interviews, like I said, we never
stopped doing peer interview. It's just that we got caught
up in more experts and don't get we still got
to have the experts for the mental health podcast, but
from the relatability aspect and because of the numbers, we

(07:27):
got to bring back regular, you know, regular guys for
the podcast because to this day, the best episodes are
with regular people.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's crazy how it works.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't have some decent names on it, but when
it's like those relatability ones, it's.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Just going crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Last not a recording episode called I'm thirty now what
that will drop as the season comes. But in the meantime,
you know, the live stream is where I broke the
fourth wall.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
For the people on that one man he should have
had me on man. You know.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, I'm I'm possibly thinking about doing a part two
to it, and I might even do a panel. I
haven't decided what I'm gonna do, but I do know
that it went really good and I was excited about
it because I'm also bringing back familiar voices from past
seasons too, So that's gonna be good with.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
That, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
So we had a few topics to talk about. Which
one are we gonna talk about first? So the first
time we're gonna talk about is my boy my boy,
but Neo and his baby mama was going off for him.
We're gonna watch this video and this is all courtesy
of the Neighborhood Talk as he basically states his lifestyle

(08:36):
and how his baby mama was, you know, not pleased
with it and everything that we went with that. So
let me share my screen and let's get to going,
because it's a lot. There's a lot to unpack here,
I believe.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Also, I used the.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Funny picture of him for the Camber art.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
All right, let's go about that about your relationship.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Of course they do, and I answer them, yeah, okay,
honesty again, I'm not lying to nobody, not even my children.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Hey, this is this is daddy's girlfriend, and so is that,
and so is that, and so you got no problem.
She's gonna make you some cereal, and she gonna cook lunch,
and she gonna watch close community right between Corinthians and
your kids have questions about that about your relationship.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Okay, So she said she I didn't tell you, Corny said,
we're gonna skim through us because a lot she just
I didn't want this going on in front of my
kids to do cornball on your own time. I'm it said,
but I'm glad you think I'm playing with you after
I'm doing I really warned you, I'm not playing about my.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Kids and partly relationships.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
On a five plus gfs' open relationship, stop disrespecting poly
et cetera, et cetera. She puts some messages alluding to
wrong woman digging in their figurrenails in the arm of
a child.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know which girlfriend is that? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
He has so many that's weird. And I don't condone
clown parenting. You need to you need built to s
s A. That's the problem. This is another picture of
him and his women, and this is them posing like
Charlie's angels. All right, we got a lot of unpacked here.

(10:30):
Let's get to the first segment with this, which is
what does this have to do with mental health? So
mental health the study of how we act, think, and feel.
That's the definition. And I really want to get to
the root, and I'm going to because it's I can't
reveal it, but this season we will. I want to
dig into the mind of a person who's into polygamy.

(10:51):
I actually have a friend who's now happily married to
one wife and he used to be into that, And
I really just want to dive in and just say,
can you just say you don't have no discipline.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Or self control?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
But you know, I want to know why, what in
a person's mind makes them think that polygamy or polyamory
is Okay, this's gonna be a good clip for TikTok,
But what's your take on pop polyamory?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I mean, honestly, I think that. I mean, if you're happy,
run the play. And that's how I feel about anything
and everything in life. You feel what I'm saying. I
think that when it comes to polygamy as a man,
there's only two ways about it. That type of stuff
will either make you real happy it's gonna make you
real stressed.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
So I don't know, there's no ever in between. As
far as I can tell.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I've had friends who that will in that type of
stuff too, and their experiences made them go back to
being monogamous. So I don't particularly. I've never tried it myself,
you know what I mean. So I can't speak from
a standpoint of, like, you know, person experience or anything
like that, but I think that if that is something
that you want to do and you have people that

(12:06):
are supportive of it, not just in the relationship, but
outside the relationship too, whether it be your family, kind
of like the Neo situation, right, Like, I don't think
any any babies, mothers or any like mother of your
child that's going to accept nothing like that ever in life,
like you have unless she's a part of the group.
You feel what I'm saying Like that, I think that's
the only way that's ever really gonna happen. But I personally,

(12:29):
I'm just like, if it makes you happy and you
feel like there's something that you can commit to and
you have people that are supportive around you and run
to play, ain't nobody getting hurt.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Y'all grown adults doing your thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
The Charge's Angels picture was crazy, though I ain't gonna
lie like I was, like, I'm a little bit jealous
when you see it, But I don't know the relationship.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
So it's like it's easy on social media to look
at it and be like, dang, you look like you
live in life, you know what I mean. So, but
I don't know who got egos, who got attitudes and
how the situation where like if he get in, who
bid win? Does it make somebody else jealous? Who got
to cook dinner on Tuesdays? Like I don't know none
of that.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So I'm just like, I don't know, you know what
I mean. He might have to watch everybody laundry. I
don't know, you know what I mean. So it's just
it is what it is. But I mean, if you're
happy you can send adults, you know what I mean,
then by all means.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
But also I think that part of polygamy comes from
an ideology of hyper sexualization. I think that that is
something that you know, you kind of get from the
ideas of, you know, being with multiple women and I
feel like you can be faithful to one. Some of
that can be coming from the factors of like how

(13:41):
pornography may be affecting him as an individual. You feel
what I'm saying, that made him feel like he may
not have the attention span to just stick with one person.
He might just be feeling like he's just so player,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Or you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
But it just all boils down to like, just like
our society being hyper sexualized and as a man, feeling
like he may not want to just commit to just
one person, or maybe he felt like committing to one
person was holding him back. Maybe it's because of his
celebrity status as well. But I think that also just
pretty much boils down to hypersexuality, because even my friends
who experienced it and like I said, went back to monogamy,

(14:17):
they essentially experienced it because of just where they were
and just their journey of just like trying to figure
out things sexually. You feel, what I'm saying, like just
essentially feeling like if they can't commit to one person,
and feeling like because they've had different situations that happened
and their constant attraction to women and just their constant

(14:39):
sexualization of women, that they can't necessarily commit to one
person because of anything other than sexual you know stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
So that's just my pin Now the two things I
want to speak on. So the first one, you said,
as long as they're all consending adults, that's your business.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
But the problem I have with is when you're getting
the kids involved, because let's keep be that's when not
a kids know, hey, you know, thinking that this is Okay,
somebody gonna say, well, it's if that's the house of they,
okay with that, But my issue is nine times.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Out of ten.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And I can't speak for everybody, but I want to
know if you are into Polly, what is your sexual background?
Where did somebody touch you as a child? Where you
introduced to porn early? Were you introduced to sex a
little early? I have to wonder because like you made
the phrase, not made the phrase, but you made the

(15:33):
comment about the phrase hyper sexuality, like you know this
generation is too hyper sexual. Like I said, you might say, hmm, okay,
I want to try this. Okay, now let's try that.
Let me try this with some mustle let me try
this with some may days.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Let me try this with this.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Let me go here, let's try it on top of
the car. You know this ain't enough. I need somebody else.
Now this ain't enough. Let me try Kyle, like you
all over the player. You don't know what you want
to do. That's why people are so crazy. And it's
like this start like this and then it's snowballs, And
at what point does to stop? Because you got all
these women, what's next?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's my question.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's like you're gonna get something, You're gonna want to
try something else because you're doing you didn't did it all,
but it's why it was like what else?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
What's next? That's my question? What's next? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think also too, I mean to that point of
bringing a child into it personally, I think if you're
gonna do that, you gotta make sure that the people
you are in the relationship with these are like the
people y'all gonna be together forever, Like these gonna be
my wives plural, you feel what I'm saying, Like, so these.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
People are gonna be around for like a very very
very long time.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
At least in the mental space obviously, relationships you know, shit,
that time going. But you know, if that's if that's
why he's bringing them around, the kids, that makes sense.
But if it's just like a flaming situation where he
just got three women around him, like he just got
three girlfriends feeling themselves, having a good time, just having fun,
not even thinking about the future, then definitely I would
not be bringing no kids into that at all, you

(16:56):
know what I mean, I wouldn't be in the situation
at them. But you know what I mean, just in
terms of like, if I was in that situation, the
only way I would want to bring the children into
it is if, for one, you gotta bring the mother.
You gotta bring to the mother's attention first, you know
what I mean. So you'll be like, hey, this is
what I'm doing. You know, it's getting serious with girlfriend A,

(17:16):
B and C. You know what I'm saying, And it's
getting so serious that I want to commit to all
of them and I want them to be a part
of our family, ie around my kid. You feel what
I'm saying. And of course you gotta bring that up
to the mother. Like I said, I don't know any mother,
especially a mother of color, that's going to go for that.
But you still got to have that conversation initially before
you even try to do anything like that. But yeah,

(17:40):
I don't know, how does that even look like? Do
you just bring them around one at a time? Do
you bring them around as a group? Do you say, hey,
these are your AUNTSI He's like, I don't know, what
does that even? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I don't mind. It looks it's a great transition. Let's
go to the next segment.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
WWID what would I do in this situation, so obviously
I wouldn't be in it. But if we gotta play,
we gotta use our imagination like spongebobbi imagination. And if
I was in it, I feel like, granted you a celebrity,
so it's a little harder versus if you was like
a regular person.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I would try my hardest.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
To like keep my kids out of that as long
as I could, because it's like I don't have kids yet,
but it's just like that's a lot for them to
deal with. And you were saying, I'm a polygamist or
a polyamor or whatever you know, and you got all
these women, and it's just like I would have at
least because he has more than one make mama, he

(18:36):
has several.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I would say he got I know, he got.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Shot, he got mon Yet Manette Shawl, he got another one.
I think her name is Crystal or something. So he
got more than y'all. So in this case, I feel
like he needs to at this point, he could do
a face off. He could have a baby mama's on
one side. Neil had the baby mama's on one side

(19:01):
and and the girlfriends on the other, and they go
like do a face off.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
That's funny. He should do that. That'll lit you know,
he needs to have a big group sit down and
just talk about it.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Like you know, what's the YouTube channel where they bring
the people in and had the debates and then they
have them come up and get a point. And it's
like he could do Neo's Baby Mama Versus Girlfriends or
something like that, and like have them all sit down
and say, get to get me to produce it, have
me ask the questions, and I sit in the middle
and just be like this, and I'd be like, okay,

(19:34):
so should the girlfriends be around the children come to
the front of you agree? No, no, come to the front,
give your taken while why not do like that and
and just have like a whole like round tape of discussion.
He'll go viral. He don't need to go viral.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
But you know what would be a hell of what
episode of Family few boy the baby Mama's versus the girlfriend?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I'm gonna be Steve Harvor, give me a MS. Stay, now,
what would you do in this situation hypothetically?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I mean, honestly, I probably would make like a Excel
sheet and just see which girlfriend I'm feeling the most,
and then probably stick to her now. But for real, though,
I don't know I would, like you said, I wouldn't
be in this situation. You know, I always been a
one woman man my whole life, you know what I mean.
I'm not with anybody right now, but you know, it
was just be one person, I'd be entertaining. Like I said,

(20:26):
it could either be real fun or real stressful. I
always felt like something like that would be real stressful
for me. You know what I'm saying. That's a lot
of personalities you got to deal with. I'm not really
going for that. But if I were in that situation hypothetically,
like I said, I would probably see. Now I know
that he got multiple baby mamas. I think he really
just need to go therapy or something.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
I feel like there's some underlying, like he was saying,
just something underlying about what he had going on in
his past that kind of brought him.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
To this point.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Not only he got multiple babies mothers, so now you
got to have a whole power out with them, and
then it's like you gotta have a with them with
the girlfriends plural, and it's just like how many people
it's like a ten man rotation, like it's too many.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's too many, you got a whole roster, a literal roster,
a harem.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
As one might say. You know what I'm saying, it's
just like it's too much going on. So I think
that may be something in his mental has brought him
to this point. And if he's happy, I mean congratulations.
But personally, I just wouldn't be in that situation and
I will probably find a way to, Like I said,
just try to talk to the mother of my children,
the mothers of my children, and try to I.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Guess, ease into it. I guess you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Like I said, people, if the girlfriends, like I said,
if I see them as my from girlfriends to wives,
like we Finnah spend lives together, we finish have more kids,
we finish live in a house together. We're finna do
all this together, like we're finna be a real family together.
And of course, like the kids gotta be involved eventually,
like they can't. You can't keep it a secret, especially
if it's somebody of NEOs like notariety, you know what

(21:57):
I'm saying, Like they gonna find out eventually, you know
what I mean, And it's just kind of like easing
them into it will probably be best, but you gotta
bring it up to the mothers first, you know what
I'm saying. So I don't know if that's like a
group chat, I don't know what that, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
One by one?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Do you just go by which ones the nicest first
and work your way up to the final baby mama, Boss,
I don't know. You just gotta you gotta figure it out,
you know what I'm saying. But like I said, it
all goes through the mama first, you know what I'm saying.
So if the mama not going for it, and clearly
Neil's baby mama wasn't going for it, one of them
ain't going for it, the.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Whole thing is going to be a mess instantly. So
you gotta have that conversation with them first.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
But as a kid, though, that would be kind of lick,
because what if every girlfriend give a Christmas gift that's
like three for one on the gifts on Christmas?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
They probably yeah, but then he gotta get them stuff too. Hey,
hey pay the costs. You pay the costs to be
the boss. That's what he wanted to do. You gotta.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
All right, So this one is gonna be good because
this is WWJD, which is what would Jesus do? And
obviously ethically more cleric first statement, I'm gonna make his one.
Jesus wouldn't be in the situation. But also let me
address this. People are e quick to say, well, in
the Bible, people was having multiple wives. Here's the thing
where it comes to the Bible. You have to understand

(23:21):
that the phrases that I like, it's called prescription and description.
That was not prescribed to do. That was described to
do with some of the people in the Bible, and
the majority of them was going through it while doing it.
So and of course some of them it was kind
of shown one angle. But come on, now, you got
one hundred whiles. You don't think that's stressful.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
If dudes be losing their mind over one woman, what
you think they're gonna do with ten huh out? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
If they over here tripping off one girl and he
got hurt. If maca what was the movie paid for?
What Makay copp Feifer was in the car crime? If
one girl do that to dude, what'd you think?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Three gonna do stupid crash.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
So I want people to keep that in mind whenever
they try to use that biblical example like well you're
in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
First of all, they were trying to throw the Bible.
You don't even read it.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So that's the crazy part that I think is interesting.
Like I said, you're entired to believe what you want,
but don't. Maybe it's the English major in me and
the grand debater in me, but don't quote something you
ain't rid. People be quoting our Aristotle can't even spell
Aristotle and then going off, which is w SMD what
your men do in this situation. I'll let you start

(24:36):
before I give my.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
TAKEE man, listen, find you one good woman and you
stay down. That's it. That is the only thing I
will advocate out here.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Obviously Neo, like I said, he got him a whole
basketball team worth the women. You know what I'm saying,
the Atlanta dreams worth of roster spots being filled. But
you know, I just think that you know, for you
to really like find one that's really truly down for you,
that's really gonna support you, that you really connect with
on just more than just a physical level. Because a

(25:09):
lot of this with Neo feels physical. So I'm like,
if it's more than just physical, you can do physical
to mental, psychological.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
You have a spiritual bond with this person as well.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Like stay with that lady, keep that relationship going, do
what you can to be supportive of that lady. Don't
have too many it's too much running around. Like the
thought of having to entertain multiple people, it's always been
crazy to me. You know what I'm saying, even on
just a pre dating level. You feel what I'm saying,

(25:38):
Like you entertaining three and one time, I'm like, how
do you keep up with a job.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know what I'm saying, how do you keep up
with your kids, all the other stuff you got going on?
When you got a day three women at the same time.
I don't know how that works.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
So no, I will tell you, man, listen, find you
one you stay down, you know, find God, stay close
to God too.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's it. Build your life around that. No more, no less.
I agree.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I ain't got nothing necess say. I thank you answered it.
So we're just gonna move on to the next topic
because I agree wholeheartedly. All right, So for the next.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Time, black man, Yeah, hold some black man, who you
both of us both okay?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
All right?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Af oh okay. So now let's go to the next
topic for the day. So we're gonna jump into Uncle Luke.
Now I haven't talked about Uncle Luke in a while
on here, but he, once again is another one who
lost his mind. He thene made a comment about black
women and opposed Hispanic women. So I don't want to

(26:51):
misquote him. So we're gonna share my screen yet again,
and we're gonna go through what this man is talking about.
And again this is from the neighbor hood Talk.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Two two girls to different nationalogies, black girl and a
Hispanic girl, and I said both of them, I was like,
you're bringing breakfast over. I'm just playing right because now
that they're not gonna get through them gates.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
And the black girl said, you're gonna send for me
to cut the breakfast the no, The black girl said,
you're gonna send for me and we're gonna go get breakfast.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And the Hispanic girl said, what do you want? I
really want to post that, but that lady, And then
I sent this to the black girl.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
I screamed, shotted it because the back to back, I
screamed shotted it and sent it to the black girl.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Am I wrong for that? I say, just the problem.
The hispanic girl is talking about what you want. I'm
bringing it. What do you want? You ready to go?

(28:22):
The black girl talking about you gonna sit for me
and we're gonna go. She ain't right. No, no, no,
I like black girls. So I send two.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, let's get to the first part. What does this
have to do with mental health? Uncle Luke never cared.
I'm gonna start with that. Uncle Luke never cared.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Why did he say that?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I guess maybe he's trying to prove a point.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
You know, we live in the world.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know, we protect black women and you know. But
I think he's in the point of maybe fil into
the whole men and women debate thing and why.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know what sparked that, but I do know
that I'm just going off with things we see constantly
in the media from you know, black men don't do
this and black men don't do that.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
So maybe this is what it's saying, Well, you want this,
but you don't do that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Maybe that I don't know. I can't speak for him.
I'm just going about what we saw only a snippet, right.
He You know, he's not the best person to say
things like that because of his past with you know,
the videos and his music and things like that. Yeah,

(29:39):
so what's your take on his comments so far?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Comments?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I mean, I don't really I've only entertained black women,
so I can't really tell you per se.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
How accurate that is. But what I will say that,
for one, I have heard that other races do treat
black men better than black women. I've heard this. I'm
not saying I know this. I'm saying I heard it.
I make sure I say that part. For two, I
think that.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Again, even if that is the message, you're correct, Uncle
Luke is not the messenger that we need to be
hearing that from all the people on earth. Yeah, Like
we've seen what Twulave Crew is doing back in the day.
Nah nah nah, not from him, Not from him?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
All right. I respect him, He's a OG, He's a
legend in the music.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Space for sure, But I don't really think that these
are the type of opinions that I would want to
hear from someone like him.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
You know what I mean. I think that I think.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Black women already gets a bad rap in a lot
of places anyway, I think that, you know, it's kind
of easy to.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Shit on a black.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Woman for a variety of reasons, and not even just
like now, but like throughout history just always been kind
of like one of those things that has just been
continuously happening.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's Black men have gotten a lot more empowered throughout
recent years, for sure, which is amazing, but we still
have rhetoric like this that comes out on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
And what I would say in my experience.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Is just like they didn't black women exclusively, is that
there are some women that will cater to you, there
are some women that won't. And I don't think that
that's particularly a race thing. I think that that's who
you're entertaining or who how much does that person want
or care about you.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Think, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
So I think I think Uncle Luke kind of kind
of tripping on that one. I think he's kind of
waddling out. But I'm not surprised because his uncle Luo.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
So that's what I'm saying, that's on brand for him.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
So some people probably not even gonna entertain that, But
it's just something I wanted to I want to talk
about because we do hear that a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Like I said, I've never technically dated outside my race.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
It was a situation where it was kind of about
to happen, but it never did, so I can't really
speak on it either, but I can understand that I
have heard that as well. And you know, but we
just are naturally and I hate to say Black people
are pented against each other just in general. So it's
just unfortunate, but it is what it is, you know,
especially when you look at history and how our mama's

(32:16):
and daddies grew up. So you know, what would I
do in this situation? And let's God led, because there
are situations where we have to speak on things that
may get us in trouble in the world at least
rather than trouble God than in trouble with man. I'll
keep that from somebody who called to say certain things, right,

(32:39):
but this is one of the things you didn't have
to say.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
He just didn't have to. It was unprovoked.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
No one said, hey, do non black women treat you
better than Black women?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Like, no one asked you that.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
It was one of those you know, the means where
be like nobody and then somebody say something. Wow, that's
that was him. What I will say is he is
what would out do in this situation? So let's just
extract it, right, Let's extract it so we're gonna get
both sides of the ball. So say, for instance, somebody
asked me about well, I just wanted to go live

(33:13):
and or rant whatever about something. My first thought is
what is give me in trouble? Secondly, once with the
first really the first God told me to say this,
yes and no. The second with is give me in trouble? Thirdly,
what is the purpose of me doing this? Because sometimes
we go on need ranks out of emotion and I've

(33:35):
been there, We've all. I don't know about you, but
I hadn't done it. I hadn't got in trouble by
posting something saying some stuff. So I'm not trying to
go down there roll because sometimes you bring drum on yourself,
and I think this is a case where he brought
drum on himself. Now, on the other flip side, if
you are called to speak on something and you have
to say it, and you know it's gonna bring problems,

(33:55):
but you have to do it, it's a little different
cause it's like I don't want to say this, but
I can't.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I have to say it.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, whether God told you to say it, whether
this is a situation that involves you and it's you're
the only one for the job, you know what I mean.
There might be a situation hypothetically, of course, where you are.
I don't know why I'm gonna go down this route.
You throwing an event, You're gonna have to be the

(34:24):
one that stands up, and it's bold to say like
this is not allowed, you cannot do this. Or if
somebody tripping, you have to be the one to go
over there and say to them, hey, we have to.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Escort you out.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Or if you own live, and you might have to
be saying to hypothetically mean you're going on live and
I'm saying something that's blatantly not true.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
You're gonna be like, no, You're not gonna just sit
there and not say nothing.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
You're gonna like, now, I'm not gonna sit you just
let you let you lie. And what's another get exemple,
I can end this software or what else? Political stances,
that's a great one because everybody has different perspectives. And
although this may get you in trouble. I also have
to get the other side of the balls, and that

(35:07):
is your opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
So it's like, what what what?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
What do you say to somebody that might say, this
is the freedom of speech and I'm grown you're not
gonna tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
What will be your response to that?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I mean, well, I'll just be like, like, why are
you even saying it? You feel I'm saying I just
don't say it?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, pretty much. But I get that too because because
he is exercising his freedom of speech.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, so from that point, I can't condemn you because
you're exercising your right.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
But it's just like, what what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
What are you saying this for? What triggered this? What
provoked that comment?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I think more even on top of that too, like
what does this conversation do? Like what do we get
from having this conversation? Like, for one, this conversation been
had multiple times? For two, it's just like what are
you saying that's different from what anybody else is saying?
Or like what point are you trying to get at
by saying this? You feel what I'm saying? I think that,

(36:13):
I mean even like for me, like what would I
do in the situation. For one, as much as I've
dated black women exclusively, I'm not opposed to dating outside
of my race. I just never met someone outside of
my race I've ever been interested in, you know what
I mean. So that's kind of always been my thing.
But even if I were to be with someone outside
my race, I wouldn't feel it neither slander a black
women because of it. You feel what I'm saying like
it's just never why would I don't have a reason

(36:35):
to do that. And then on top of it, like
end of the day, I'm a businessman. You feel what
I'm saying, And I think that you know, people kind
of speak freely when they don't feel like they have
something to protect.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Like a brand or you know, people that are within
the group that they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
You feel what I'm saying, like they don't feel like
they got to protect them as strong as they should.
So it's like I feel like we should be for one,
protecting black women and for two like I'm gonna ptake
my brand, you know what I mean. So all the
same things that you say, I don't talk about politics,
I don't talk about what you should be doing in
your dating life. On social media. I don't do none
of that, no more like I did that when I
was younger. You know, I'm not that old, but I'm

(37:12):
old enough. But you know, just off the strength of,
you know, building a brand for myself, building my business
and realizing that all these rhetorics ain't got nothing to
do with what my business on my brand stands on.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So Uncle Luke may be different because his brand has
been women since the nineties. That's true. That's a good point,
you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
So I'm like him having his opinion is different from
me having his opinion and put it on the internet.
So I mean, like, I think that if that's just
how he feels based on the assortments that he's dealt
with in his past, I mean, you know, but at
the same time, still like it just don't need to
be said. Like even if that's how you feel, like
being an interview and someone asks you that, don't just

(37:54):
come out and say it. You feel what I'm saying, Like,
it's just what is youse just coming out and saying
they do? Like it is you think black women are
gonna act differently because he said that. You know what
I'm saying is anybody gonna change how they feel at all? Like, nah,
you're just saying that just for the sake of saying it.
So you know, personally, I just even if even if

(38:15):
I did have a comparison like that, which I don't,
but if I did, like if that was me, I
still wouldn't say it on the Internet.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I just would. I would just kind of like keep
that to myself, like if someone asked me, maybe have
a conversation about it, But I just wouldn't be willingly
just trying to slander black women. I just don't do that.
I don't slander black women ever for all people know,
not them.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
But no, you made some good points, especially one about
this is his brand women talking about women, so this
is what he been doing, so it kind of does
make sense and time to his brand.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
But also the nigga like sixty seventy years old, I'm like,
I get that your brand, but come on, bro, you
know what I'm saying, Like you about sixty. I know
he got grandkids, bro, I know he got something like that.
So still like even if this is your brand, like
it's just not a place for it.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Still let's go to the nixt ward I had a point,
but I lost it WWJD so efically a morally correct
thing to do, right, As I said, going back to
the statement about there's a difference when you're called to
speak on things, there's a difference when you're not. We
can say, based on this scenario, this is not a

(39:25):
something you need to speak on.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
It's just not. But again we're extracting the principle of it.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
And if called, what if somebody you have to speak
on something where you might say, what does that have
to do with you? Or why are you speaking on this?
Or you know, people gonna miss interpreace, people away miss
a interurprestuf, especially when it comes internet. But there will
be times I'm gonna tell you how y'all already seen it,
but there will be times I'll be speaking on some
of them to let you know that now that you
might be like, why is he speaking on that?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
But I'm gonna have to. And some people might.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Say, well, that ain't got nothing to do with you,
or oh you you know this, that ain't right, or
you know that's your opinion.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But in the same breath, what are you doing with this?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Because only you, only you and God know your motives
and of course if anybody you reveal it to, and
I really say, really you and God, because sometimes you
be lying. So sometimes people say that may be doing
it for this, but that ain't why they're saying that.
I think in this situation, unfortunately it caused more division.
It is what it is, but it stirred up another debate,
but the debates on tie of hearing about black men

(40:26):
didn't do this, So black women didn't do this. Hell
least she just came on, she commented. So I think
that tell me what you think about Uncle Luke saying
that Hispanic women treat Black men better than Black women.
So even with that, I just think that because I
said he didn't have had all the women, he probably

(40:48):
had every probably some races and nationality you ain't never
even heard of. Remember when R Kelly was singing on
on that stage. It's crazy how people incriminate themselves in
broad daylight. That man was singing, uh, do you got
your passport? And they was like, you want to come
to America? Like I'm like this man he was blatantly

(41:08):
telling one himself. I mean he told them with me,
he said, what, Well, long story short, I think that
Uncle Lucas still from that old school generation. You stayed
his age, where this how we talk about women that
I ain't changing. This is what it is, and I'm

(41:29):
a stunt on it. So I'm okay with standing on
business and principles that are rooted and grounded in something
that is not an ignorance one and an old guard
of of I guess you could say misogyny, but at

(41:55):
least made a good point when she said, I mean,
if that's his lived experience, that's him. Can't speak for
everyone and that too, you know what I mean. So
it's just one of those things like Tam said, like,
come on, old man.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
You could have kept it to yourself.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
No, it's like he like he and that booty category.
But I just feel like, man, some of these old heads,
they just they they stuck in whatever they're gonna be
and either you're just gonna set it or you're just
gonna not listen to it.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
And that's just that's the rhetoric I won't listen to.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So yeah, yeah, he definitely in the booty category. All right,
Uncle Luke and Boosty, what's your men do in this situation?
So honestly, all I can say is you said it
on up to it. Either you got two choices, own
up to it and be like I apologize or just say,

(42:45):
you know what I stand on what I said. I
ain't apologize for nothing, she said. Fighting to be relevant? Yeah,
does he gotta do that?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Though?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like what is relevancy in this conversation? Like I don't
even see the point, you know what I mean? Like
what are you relevant in just knowing that you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Like what I don't. It's just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
It's not like he was bored, Like you know, you know,
you ask an old head, you know what I'm saying
something and then he says something completely random and that
had nothing to do with you asked him about somebody
probably asked him what his day was, and like, you
know what I noticed these Yeah, Latina women don't really
be given the same headaches like black women. He'd be like,
what they had to do with I was asking if

(43:29):
you had I asked you if you had breakfast today?
You're talking about what you're talking about? Dudes, you all
over the place.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I think that it's just something to keep in mind.
But ultimately, wishermen doing the situation just before you say
something unless you absolutely have to. Is this gonna cause
the vision or is this going to uplift anybody? Certain
things do need to be tore down. I ain't gonna lie, however.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
This is not one of them.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I mean, and at the same time, it's like it's
his shared experience, his lot is his experience with women
in life.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
But it's just kind of like.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Certain things are meant for in the house and knowing
the difference between what's finn house and what's for your
social media platform. Because we can question and challenge whether
or not you did this to be relevant. Somebody could say,
are you doing this to be relevant? You might say,
I'm just saying my truth. You know, we live in
the world they say, speak your truth. But then at

(44:26):
the same time, it's like it's just it's just it's
just one of those things. So all right, y'all, anything
else you want to say before we go to the
final topic.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I mean, yeah, everything you said, if you say on
the internet, stand on it. That's my my firm belief.
A lot of people don't want to stand on what
they say, but they just say it anyway. For the
second talking, I'm like nah. If you say it, stand
on it, especially on a platform like social media, and
then you know the saying what's understood and got to
be explained. Well, if that is your understanding of things,
then why you explain it to anybody? You feel what

(45:00):
I'm saying, Like, just go ahead and be quiet, keep
that to yourself. Like you said, keep it in the house.
I wouldn't keep it in the house. Just keep it
to yourself, like like who asked you that? Somebody asked
you first, and then say it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, all right, let's go to the final topic for today,
which is derived or comes from the Zeus Network.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So on Zeus Network to.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Have a TV show called Two Ways with Eric Kamena.
It's like the ghetto teyla tequila show back in the day,
a shot at Love.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I'm not gonna lie, y'all.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
The show is really it gives you that old school
like flavor love vibe, but like update it so it's
actually decent and entertaining.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And so hold on, brother, hold on, hold on. You
got the Zeus network, brother, you got the Zeus Network.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
What I don't.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I don't just be binging it. I just here's the
thing with Zeus. I had Zeus back before it became ratchet.
I had Zeus when they used to be funny.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Do you remember that this was hold on? Look, this
was back in twenty was it eighteen nineteen?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
And that's when they used to have like funny shows
like back in the day, Bea Simone had a show
on there and it was like a love show, and
then who else was on there? And then they had
this is before one more chance? This it was they
had some shows back in the day that was like
they tried to take like people and get them like

(46:32):
their own shows on there. And it wasn't like Ratchet
at all. It was just like comedy style, like it
was actually used to be funny. And then I guess
once they saw the Ratchet stuff start working, they just
zoned in zoom, you know. So I will give them
the credit on content creating wise, where you saw a
niche and you just just they'd be punching on there too.
But you know, literally, they just they said, we're gonna

(46:54):
keep on doing it, you know, So keep that in mind.
But let's watch this clip because uh, the plumber man
was crashing out all right.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
This is a crash out right here. I'm not putting
my hand, you.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Know, because you're not.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
You got stuck out. How hard could the hit have
even been? Like? Why are you acting like such a
big ass girl? You don't slap me, baby, I would
never do that to you. You know, why not embrace me?
You know what I'm disgusting.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
You know, not only have you disrespected all these women
right now, you have just just suspected me gif he
had off you.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Okay, So to break down what happened, long story show
the man his nickname. On the show, she gave out nicknames,
and his nickname was pie Piper. The reason she gave
him that name is because he's a plumber. Now, for
those who don't know him, his name is Aaron. He
was on the Red Balloon Show. I didn't watch the
Red Balloon Show, but I did see the clips that

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was going viraling him on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm giving a quick run down and he got cast
to be on there.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
And basically what happened was she was liking him or whatever,
but he had had a fight and then in this
situation after during eliminations, she had like slapped him like
a little like this, and he got real mad and
like start going crazy. So that's the full story. He
has since apologized publicly. What's your take on the situation

(48:47):
right now?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
All right, so wait this the dude that was always fighting,
like he just always rated like rip his shirt off
type fighting. Yeah, okay, I've seen it on TikTok for show.
It was like a compilation. I ain't know who he was,
but I have seen a compilation on tiptop. The closest
I ever get to Zeus is watching Drew Ski shot
at Drew Sky, and that could have been house that

(49:08):
he been doing, could have been loved all that, Like,
that's very entertaining.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I give it that.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I'm surprised that's not on Zeus in its own right.
But right, yes, on YouTube, it's on YouTube for show
the fighting. But it's still be it's still funny as hell.
But yeah, first of all, Pie Piper is a terrible nickname.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I don't know why R. Kelly ever took that. That
was a clear sign he needed to go to jail, So.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
El nickname, let's start there. Secondly, it's just it's just
reality show drama. Man, Like I think that as a
grown ass man, you should never be tracked out your spot.
But at the same time, like, once you get into
the reality TV space, it's only a matter of time.
You feel what I'm saying. I don't know anybody who
really was on reality TV.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
And the time that I was watching, I was watching
like Early Love and hip how Wind Yes and all that.
That was what was really going crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I remember when, like when Jim Jones I forgot like
whatever season that was that had been like the first
season loving hip hop.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
It was some big dude.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
He was ready to fire up on camera. I was like, Oh,
this is like when you put real street dudes on
this type of stuff. But you know, obviously the game
has changed since then. But you know, I just think that,
you know, you really already tricked out the spot. As
soon as you commit to doing stuff like that, you
feel what I'm saying. So it's like a matter of
time before you get all the way crash out material.

(50:30):
So you said a woman slapped him and he started
acting like that. Yeah, he had an aeron Kamena.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
She had gave him his chain and was like get
back in your spot, like playing with him and did
like this, and he just lost it.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Oh noh, yeah, hell no, he's tripping. He tripping. He
needs help, bro, he need help.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
That wasn't his first time tripping, but that was the
final you know where he really just lost it. But yeah,
mental health wise, I know he was drinking. And I
actually had a friend that was like that, who like
and we've all had that friend who get drunk and
start tripping and I have to wonder, like what happened?

(51:10):
And you were going back to the original point where
it was like what happened to you as a child,
Like with Neil, like what happened to you as a child.
It's like you just so like you got this consistent
and if you've seen him on the show, that's how
he was. Honestly, you ain't got to watch it. You
see the clips that all of the internet, they all
over TikTok, but you would see him just constantly fighting,
trying to prove and it's just like what happened to

(51:31):
you as a child that got you like that, Like
why are you constantly trying to prove something?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I really want to know when people are like that,
like what's underlying? What's that?

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, it's just like you definitely had some anger issues
or some type of abuse or bullying happened that you
didn't fully heal from essentially, and then he was kind
of swolled up. So that's how they usually get They
get all swolled up and then they want to act
all crazy in front of everybody. I'm not guessing no

(52:02):
female like that ever, Like I'm not about to I'm
not doing that bro.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Like so, because what was he really about to do?
What was he really about to do? Yo? Yeah yeah,
w w D what would that do in this situation?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Now, let's extract this because we wouldn't be on No
Love Show, so we can't go that route. But if
we were in that situation where we were offended by
something like say, for instance, your girl was playing and
she did like let hit you. Maybe even though the
slap wood in that hard, maybe it was a little
too hard and he was just like caught you off guard,

(52:37):
you'd be like, can you not do that? Or you know,
please don't do that and you can show visible discomfort
or like hey, you know, but him crashing out like
that about the fight over that, it's like it's either
knowing how production works on both of ours ends. Maybe
it's something that they didn't show that we didn't see
that caused that that they left out. That's something to

(52:58):
that's still not okay for the man They get like
that because like I saw the hit, she didn't hit them,
but it's like what caused that? And when it comes
to reality TV, I had on my podcast season seven
Melanie doctor Melanie. I can't remember her last name, but
I had her on. She actually was a therapist. She's

(53:21):
now a therapist, but she actually used to do reality
TV production. She used to be a producer. She's us
four Bad Girls Club, Real World, the Janis Dickinson Show,
all the old school ones, and she was just saying
that the new school reality. You can tell a lot
of production intervenes a lot, she said, be cause back then,

(53:44):
if you cast the show right, all you gotta do
is let it unfold. Now it's a lot of people
where production intervenes a lot, and then it's just blatant chaos.
But it's because it's gotten to the point where it's
clear they keep trying to like, we got to top
the next, we got to top the next, we got
to the next.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Do you believe? And I said, I have to say,
do you believe?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
We live in a society where people are constantly trying
to outdo the last big viral moment.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
A thousand percent one percent every time, every single time ever,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Like I said, if you even in that position where
you are on reality TV, you there to make a
moment one way or another, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
What I mean. So it's just kind of like it's
no real reason. I've heard a lot of stories.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I haven't been a part of the reality TV production
myself or nothing like that, but I've heard a lot
of stories, especially about love and hip hop and just
how Mona Scott and her people would be like, uh,
just kind of like, you know, orchestrating things behind the scenes,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
But yeah, people just like attention, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
And it at least was saying like, yeah, we just
gotta be able to communicate more than anything. Communication is
something that's good for reality TV because that's actually grown
adult behavior.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
They don't want us to be grown. They want us
to be entertaining.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
And it's morerantained in the fight to be loud, to
be argumentative than it is to have a genuine conversation
with someone.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
I had been in a situation where I.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I don't even know how much I want to talk
about this, but realistically, like I essentially was getting like
I got choked out by a woman before.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
And it wasn't like not even choked out, like and
since I went unconscious, but like she was.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Choking me out of frustration basically, right, We essentially had
to have a conversation immediately after that, you feel what
I'm saying. So it wasn't like no back and forth.
I ain't put my hands on her, no type of way.
You feel what I'm saying. It was just kind of like,
you know, she was frustrating the situation. I ended up
you know, having to had the conversation after the fact.
You feel what I'm saying that we were able to
resolve it from there, right. So it's just kind of

(55:42):
like in a situation like that where it's easy for
things to go left, and it's like we can still
handle a lot of adults without anybody having to feel
like they were being abused, while anybody having to put
more hands on each other or having to cuss each
other out, but having to be basically like cooning, you
know what I'm saying, Like then there's no real excuse
for it. But like I said, it's reality TV ain't

(56:03):
built for that. It's all about the clicks, the likes,
the views. Okay, they did this, we need to go up.
Oh they did that, We need to go up again.
You feel what I'm saying, Like, it's just it's always
gonna be that, and that's what it's been. So you know,
that's what's keeping zeus in business nowadays. You know what
I'm saying, just that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
But I really don't.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I couldn't be in no situation like that. I can't
even be on reality TV because I'm too nonchalant of
a person. You feel what I'm saying. They would have
kicked me off first first day, just like, oh he
too boring.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Well, I think about It's crazy how reality TV has
changed us. Back in the day, you could tell it
was really authentic and like even with like the first
season going back to Love and Hip Hop, I remember
when they you know, it was authentic. When Chrissy went
going crazy or one of them early season Love and
Hip Hop and she had stop production set. I told
y'all not to bring this lady with around me, and

(56:54):
y'all did it anyway, and she lost it and they
had to like stop because she was like, nah, y'all,
y'all playing and like you said, knowing from what you
know people do, that's what they do. They instigate stuff
to get stuff to happen and then watch it unfold
and which shows that are on that network. Sometimes it
does look like that everybody on there is almost told

(57:19):
you're gonna do this, then you're gonna do that, then
you gonna follow up and do this, versus just letting
it watch. The only last good, really good reality show
I think was Easter Rays show that she had with
the Sweet Life, Sweet Life Los Angeles that was on
HBO Max.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
You heard of that. I ain't watched reality TV and
like I said, the only thing on watching that's reality.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
TV, Like yeah yeah yo, I used to like it
was on it's still on HBO Max and it's just
some kids from LA they like around our age and
they was a group of friends and like it was drama,
but it wasn't like that. It was like real stuff,
but it was more of them than they business and stuff.
It was actually a good reality show. I had two

(58:04):
seasons then it got canceled along with her other show,
they got canceled.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
So when she was the whole thing about that. What
was the show with the rappers? Did you what's the
name of this show? When she had the huh? Which
was it? Like there was like rap kids or something
or rap ship?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Yeah, rap shit, No, that was Yeah, it was like
loosely inspired by the City Girls, but they wasn't the
City Girls at all.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I did watch that. I didn't watch that man, and
that got canceled after two seasons.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
That was a good show, yeahs to be canceled early.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Yeah, so both of those shows was on HBO Max
and got canceled, and Eastern Ray kind of went into
it like maybe I should take my shows to another
network because you know, she's felt somewhere behind that, which
I kind of felt that too. So she's a great writer,
by the way, shout out to her. That's my auntie.
That's my writer, Auntie.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
All right, w w j D. What would Jesus do?
So it wouldn't be on Zeus network?

Speaker 1 (58:57):
But well, that's a slippery sloff, and I'm not I'm
gonna only say that because you never know where you
might be sending. Why that's done. I'm just gonna say that.
I don't eve gonna go into more details, but what
I will say is in this situation, like you said,
they strategically cast people who are crash outs, so it

(59:18):
wouldn't have been on about Erica like can you not
do that?

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Please?

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Or if he might have laughed it off and he
could have went to her when the camera's down, like hey, Erica,
I know he was playing, but can you not do
that no more?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
I know, you know know he was playing, But they
gonna get the person who going boom.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
All we gotta do is put you in a room
because you dynamite, so you're gonna explode, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
For sure?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah, I think, honestly, no, cap, I think Jesus would
be on the Zeus network, honestly because you know, you
read the Bible, Like Jesus wasn't around the saints. You
feel I'm saying he was running with the wheelers and dealers.
He was trying to get people, like he's trying to
save people for real. So if anybody needs saving on

(01:00:03):
the network, you feel what I'm saying. So I think
he might pull up just to like, you know, try
and talk him down and see if he can bring
him to the light type things. You know what I mean, like,
at least you could try. I don't know if they'll
be receptive at that point, but.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
You know, it's something to think about it definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Like you said, you're right, he was around the killers
and the you know and all them people, and but
what happened was people always leave out. He hung out
with those people, but they was forced to come up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
He didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
He didn't do them himself down. He was still himself,
but he didn't. They had to change. He didn't do
the change as far as him, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
To want to follow him, They're gonna have to want
to follow him for sure. Yeah, on the Zeus network.
I don't know if you want to do that at
that point it might be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Yeah, it's been harder people save. That's all I'm gonna say. Yeah,
So so I ain't even gonna it's just you just
never know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
And W S M D.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I mean, we've already kind of discussed it, like the
love tap, like you, like Alice said, and she's going
now she's no longer with us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
She did, but you know, but long with a she
on the live stream no more. But you have to
communicate that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
But at the end of the day, here's what I
want to also explain, was he wrong to feel a way. No,
but you have to understand that you have to take
the al as a man sometime and just let people
have it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
And that's a pride thing some people just cannot do.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Whereas like they wrong, I'm right, but I have I'm
gonna let you have any some men I know I
had a friend that act just like him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Nope, you gonna know you wrong? No, no, nope. They
can't just be like you know what you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
He is like, nah, I'm gonna show you every time
if I'm disrespected, You're gonna know it every single time.
And it's like you cannot do that because you're gonna
always lose, even if in this case it's especially with
a woman. But also if you're known for crashing out
with you said you don't know much of by him.
You just seen a compilation of him crashing out, So
your stance will say, even if you was right in

(01:02:06):
this situation, you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Have a history.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
History says you a crash out. So I can't take
nothing you saying, because it's like the little boy that
cry wolf, cry wolf all these time? Not a wolf here,
Finn of eat everybody but because you in cry Wolf
so many times, I don't believe you the time he
telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I think a lot of crash out energy come
from pride. So you know, it's just kind of like,
you gotta let that pride go. It's not it's not
gonna do nothing for you. And it's everything that you said,
especially when it comes to women, a lot of time,
you gotta just let that, let that go. You just
gotta let that go. You don't because it's like, what
do you win if you escalate the situation? Yeah, like

(01:02:45):
I said before, what was he really going to do?
Was he gonna put his hands on her and then
be labeled as a guy who does that for the
rest of his life. You feel what I'm saying was
he just gonna keep yelling back and forth with her
and make him look crazy. You feel I'm saying anything
he would have did other than letting it go was
gonna make them look crazy, you know what I mean.
So it's just kind of like it's not worth your
it's not worth your mental health. For one, it's not

(01:03:07):
worth your integrity as a man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
And honestly, for him to be a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Crash out like that, I'm like, dude, like, just get
out your feelings game, Just get out your feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Bro, you feel what I'm saying, Like, I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I can be emotional at times myself, but it's like
I ain't never gonna crash out no female about no
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Like and you're just kind of like, bro, like just
no when to walk away from situations? Man, Like, it's
really easy to escalate things, you feel what I'm saying,
Just in any.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
With man women whoever, Like, it's real easy to escalate
things and get your pride and get your mind into
a set place that this has to go somewhere when
it really don't have to go nowhere. Just let it go,
live your life, be happy. Just just don't crash out.
Vince Staple said, please don't crash out. Life hard, but
I go harder, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
And we're gonna end it with that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Please don't crash out, all right, y'all. So this is
been a great episode. What is there anything you want
to pub tell the people you got coming up? When
this winning? Anything get you guys that you want to
let people know about?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
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Media group where my podcast lives.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
We got new episodes on the way for sure.

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Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
All right, y'all, that is all. Thank you for putting
up on us.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Uh P s a sign and I'll always remember keeping
ahead of like your neck hurt, remember who you are,
make your mind up, don't let him make you, and
remember I love us for real. M hm

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
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