Rise Above: Transform Your Life by Conquering Limitations Feat. Mandii B.

Welcome to Episode 5 of Season 7 of the P.S.A Mental Health Podcast! In this riveting episode, we dive deep into the world of overcoming limitations with our special guest, Mandii B. This Afro-Latina mental health counselor, educator, and advocate hailing from the South Side of Chicago shares her powerful story about rising above adversity, breaking free from societal constraints, and championing mental health awareness in the black and brown community. Mandii B sheds light on her complex relationship with her father, who was both a hero and a villain in her life. She explains how his portrayal of men as only being strong and invulnerable influenced her own journey to discovering the true meaning of strength and vulnerability. In line with Les Brown's quote "Life has no limitations, except the ones you make," Mandii B passionately shares her own experiences in overcoming self-imposed limitations and finding personal growth. Throughout this episode, we explore various aspects of limitations and their impact on mental health, from personal experiences to societal influences. Mandii B talks about the challenges she's faced in her work as a mental health counselor, especially the limited resources and stigma that often surround mental health in underserved communities. Taking inspiration from Mariah Carey's iconic "I don't know her" meme, Mandi B emphasizes the importance of rejecting limitations and embracing a growth mindset. Through her own dark moments and personal struggles, including growing up as an Afro-Latina and her experiences with an abusive relationship, Mandii B demonstrates how resilience, self-compassion, and support from others can lead to healing and growth. We delve into a range of thought-provoking topics, such as the intersection of mental health and relationships, the impact of growing up in a low-income community, and the importance of addressing the unique mental health needs of the black and brown community. Mandii B also shares her plans for the future, including her ambitious goal to create an all-boys mental health center in Chicago. In the spirit of challenging limitations, we end the episode with a game of "Limitations Schimitations," where we discuss various scenarios and the ways in which people can overcome limitations in different aspects of their lives. Join us for this unforgettable episode of the P.S.A Mental Health Podcast, as we break down barriers, challenge misconceptions, and inspire our listeners to push beyond their limitations and embrace their full potential. Don't forget to subscribe for more incredible conversations on mental health, personal growth, and the power of resilience. 💪🧠✨

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Episode Transcript

(00:05):
Give me mine on episode five,Mine five really don't rhyme? I was
lame? Why do that anyway?Y'all? Episode five another great episode.
This episode centers around limitations. Nowwe've kind of tackled this before throughout the
different seasons, but this episode specificallyhighlights limitations and how we shouldn't let them

(00:28):
keep us from making the decision thatwe want to make on doing how we
want to do a move on howwe supposed to move, or what happens
when other people try to limit us. All right, this one features the
relatable counselor the big homie, MandyBrown. All Right, y'all, After
a Latteina from Chicago, me andher kind of have a conversation about her
being a former educator and me beinga current one and how she's transitioned from

(00:53):
that into working in the prison systemalright, with mental health, how she
has her foundation with what happened was, which she just to back up,
so y'all need to check that out. Her talking about things that happen via
social media with the people that sheencounters, her target audience being black and
brown men, and which is different, you know, because most people try
to just go for women She givesher take on that and why she feels

(01:15):
that women have it kind of alittle more easier in the mental health fieldan
men do, which I could agreewith. That we talk about reframing opportunities
and refrainments, challenges and opportunities.This week we end up with a great
game time and she even talks abouthow her modeling career is. She aligned
her modeling career with mental health,but she knows how not to blend the
two. All right, So ifyou feel limited, if you feel as

(01:40):
though you know you don't have anylimits, let's test it out this week
and also apply it and correlated tomaking the healthy choice, all right,
making the right choices. I tellthe kids, all right, so sit
back, relax, cute to music, The ball with Joscely Hernandez did it

(02:21):
and your best Life? Do itlike it's your B Day. I did
have an episode I think it waslast season this season before and I was
like, you can't do it likeit's your B day every day? But
in a sense why not? Whycan't you live your best life? And
actually the other day and it wastalking about how like where I'm at this
space, I've seen him mean andI've seen a video, ain't you saying

(02:43):
this? So this three way confirmation. All right, y'all, what's going
on? Is your boy? Easybank over? What's up y'all? Soul
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that's when you bring in other opinions, and that's when you kind of to

(03:53):
tear from that path that you werecreating. I'm back and apt psaf yo.
I'm an mic all the way over, y'all. I'm tripping. What's

(04:13):
going on? Um? What's theday? It's another third? Will you
know? It's another Thursday? Andwe're keeping the ball roll and keeping episodes
going. Thank y'all for the love. Last week, you know, the
first episode was me in the thirdsecond two episodes was some big, pretty

(04:34):
high profile people, and then lastweek's episode was somebody who's up coming.
But again I told y'all, like, I'm not going to stop putting people
on my stuff who are upcoming likeme, or who are above me,
or who are beneath me, becauseI feel like when I say beneath me,

(04:55):
all me like I'm better than them, but just as far as their
stuff is still, you know,versus a person, and like me and
my boy last week, who wasalready you know, kind of established,
but this week is another I feellike a person that is well established.
But we're gonna get into that ina minute. But I think that,
you know, sometimes we need theepisodes like this where when it comes to

(05:17):
making the right choice, which,if you know, when at the schools
I'll be working at whatever, thekids be doing something stupid or they're about
to do something stupid, I alwaysbe like, hey, make the right
choice. So hopefully this podcast servesis that. And this is especially with
today's episode, which I think isgood because it centers around limitations because we

(05:41):
all have them, We've all beenlimited in some way. But in the
same breath the purpose of this episode, that's just kind of show like,
limitations aren't the end all be all. That makes sense, all right,
So before I get into the atlet me get into this week's mean.
The main reads limitations. We've decidedwe don't know her all right. Inspiration

(06:03):
for this week actually funny because I'ma little you know, but this week
is funny. So this first inspirationcomes from one quote by Les Brown,
and it says life has no limitationsexcept for ones you make. So I
want to challenge that, and I'mgonna challenge that a little later, so
prepared to be prepared for that.And also, all limitations are self imposed.

(06:26):
That's anonymous nice look quote. You'regonna challenge that later too. And
then the infamous you've seen that meanworld be like if it's like a video
or like a picture like Mariah Herereyand she'd be like, I don't know
her. And then if you're seeingthe backstory behind it, that's actually wow.
I'm gonna get in that in aminute too. But let's get into

(06:50):
the other segment real quick. Happyhour all right, So for my happy
hour, I got my fresh water. Hopefully that's with some of y'all drinking,
because a lot of a lot ofpeople be needing. A lot of
people I've learned at this a bigage don't drink water like some of us,
if not thirty pushing thirty. Andthat's wild to me, Like I

(07:13):
know old people, and when Isay old people, I mean like my
age and older who'll be like,oh, I just don't like high taste.
That's sound you as wow, that'scrazy to me, Like what is
wrong with who raised you? Clearlyhe wasn't raised right. I don't care
I'm judging. I'm definitely just Idon't care. You wasn't raised right to
say that water is nasty? Youdon't like high taste like it's kind of

(07:35):
like vegetables, Like even with mejust best on how it was raised.
Like even if I don't for whatevermeal I got, I don't want to,
you know, vegetables with it,just for whatever reason, right,
I'm gonna just like do what Igotta do when I was a kid,
Like I'm just gonna scarff them downreal quick and then it's over with.
You know, most kids didn't learn. I learned that, you know,

(07:56):
just just scarf them down there tobe over with you're doing. I know
kids that said it needs to besitting at the table for I was trying
to pushing peas back and forth.It ain't never ever real, Just eat
it, it'd be over. Thatwasn't a part of the script, though,
I do want to really quick getinto the whole the Mariah Cury thing.
So the backstory behind that for thosethat don't know, was she was

(08:16):
asked in an interview years ago aboutdifferent people and then they asked her about
Jennifer Lopez and she said I don'tknow her. So then it became some
big old ordeal and basically of hertrying to be pitty, but she claimed
she wouldn't but she probably was knowingher. But it's just funny because I

(08:37):
like how we saying with our limitations, especially with correlating with the mean.
We're saying like limitations, so wedon't know who that is. Like,
we're not letting that stop us.We're not letting us throw us off.
And the same way she didn't letthat question throw her off about Jennifer Lopez.
I don't order so she didn't letthat stop nothing. I mean,
you can't be pitty with that too, which a lot of pole do,

(09:00):
especially when you know y'all be followingout with all y'all friends in the first
thing, when somebody asked about it, you'd be like, who, who
is it? Who're just doing?Don't know what it is. I've seen
it. I've seen it a fewtimes, probably done it before too,
But I don't do it like thatnow. I just act like now what
I do. That's the growth ofme. You had asked me this season
two, I would have said that, but season seven, I don't be

(09:20):
like like people bring up people don'tcare for the more we didn't fell out.
I don't never tell people. Wedon't talk. They always tell the
people. I never tell them aboutI just be like, oh, I
ain't seen them in a minute.That's it. I don't say it with
no attitude. Don't be paid.I ain't. I ain't heard from them
all. You know, I've beenbusy. You know, they'd be doing
this, doing that, but they'llask me while we fell out. But

(09:41):
I didn't tell them something else alongwith that. I just want to kind
of rank about something. So recentlyI got this great mic right here.
All the podcast was used it right, and it was a suggestion made by
one of my homeboys. And hewas listening to my podcast and he likes

(10:01):
the content. He was asking whatkind of mic I had, So I
told him and he was like,um, he had suggested another mic.
And his reason for it was hewas just saying your content is great,
but he said it without saying it, and y'all, he wasn't being shady,
so this is ain't this ain't that. But he made the comment of
basically saying it could sound better nowwith that I learned recently, which honestly,

(10:24):
I'm glad he made that observation.But I learned recently that you know,
it's it's the stream yard app that'show you seeing me now it's the
app through stream yard. Is whybecause like, if I did this just
the audio with this mic, itwould sound amazing. So that pushed me
into what's the word I'm looking for, like adjust some things, which I'll

(10:46):
have a problem with that. Butwith that, I do want to say
this even though hiss, we're takingit and we receive it and it's effective,
and it was you you needed.I want to go into the rantom
real quick about you can't please everybody. So with that, right, So,
now, there was a time whereI had terrible audio and you know,

(11:09):
the visuals wasn't there, and peoplewould say, oh, you need
oh you need oh you need this, or you should do this, you
should do this, you need this. Right now, at this point,
I'm gonna do what's best works forme. Some things, as always,
can be updated, upgraded, allthat good stuff. But a lot of
times, keep in mind, youcan't please everybody, and a lot of

(11:30):
times people won't you, you know, Like I remember and people to this
day still would tell me like,oh, your podcast is great, but
you need music. No, Idon't. If you listen to a lot
of podcasts, not a lot ofthem have music. Like of course,
I have my sound effects and stuff, and I got my intro on my
oultra, but just music through thewhole thing. I just feel like for
me, you know, it's justa lot. Now, if you do

(11:50):
it on your podcast, great,but I just don't think for me that
will work. I mean it mightwork, but it's a lot. And
as I stated, now research orsomething. And I suggest if anybody don't
look at the people like you,look at the people who win in the
award two step at the top,because clearly they know what they're doing and

(12:11):
if they get successful the name necessarilydoing that, then you could do that
too. Like for example, Idon't know too many podcasts. It's like
big and popping. They have musiclike that. So if they ain't got
it, they don't need it.I don't need it. You gotta think
like the best. But all right, y'all, that's enough for my rents.
And that got a great guest.And this has been a long time

(12:31):
coming and we've been putting it off, so let me go ahead and introduce
them. What's going on? He'sso, y'all, I already asked,
but I'm gonna ask get on camerabecause I'm pity it looked like in the
bed. I'm not in the bed. I'm in a chair, a big
chair. That's a nice chair though, that's the funny thing. Yeah,
all right, so obviously the visualcan see you, but from my audio

(12:54):
only, people tell the people what'syour name, where are you from,
and where you live? Now?Oh, my name is I am from
Chicago, but I can live inNashville. All right, So now Chicago,
baby? How did you go fromChicago to Nashville a six and a

(13:18):
half hours drive. I would travelback and forth during the pandemic In twenty
twenty, while I was in mymaster's program, I got to be hybrid,
so I either had to be oncampus or I can do online.
And my school's actually in Alabama,but the person I was dating at the
time was in Tennessee. So insteadof just going straight to Alabama, I

(13:41):
would just stay here. And itworked out to where my job chanting me
down here. Finding the house downhere was super duper easy, and I
just got rooted within like six months. Oh for real. But that's good
news for people who are looking forbecause some people be thinking it takes years
to find a house, But I'mfinding out you really don't know. If

(14:05):
you want one, you can definitelyhop on one for sure. So tell
the people who don't know, whatdo you do for a living? What
don't I do? Is honestly thereal question currently right now, I am
a cottonted behavior specialist at the Men'sand women's Maximum security prison for the state

(14:28):
of Tennessee. And I'm also acounselor at a set introduced clinic as well.
Okay, all right, so nowwith that, do you And it's
it's kind of a cliche question becauseit's about limitations, but working at a
prison, right, so look athow you look. Do you feel limited

(14:52):
off rip like you know, likedid you feel like you maybe have to
do a little more to get likerespect in that that area? Mhm?
Really at um how prisons set up. When you treat people like they're human,
because that isn't in humane environment,they respect you off the rips,

(15:15):
and especially when you don't joe throwtheir charges in their face, you actually
listen to them and actually work withthem and not against them. It's easy
to gain respect. Now if youbeing an asshole, you're gonna get cooked.
So you're in the wrong environment fortrue. All right, Well,

(15:35):
that's good news to know because Iwouldn't have known. I looked at it
kind of like like a school,you know, with like even like with
education, like where you're going aroundand you're in charge of something or you
running something, you kind of can'treally show weakness at first because it's like
you got to build their reputation upfirst and then kind of you know.
But okay, that's good to know, all right. So now I got

(15:58):
a few words I want to action. I want you to send me the
first thing that comes to mind,all right, all right, So when
you hear the word weakness, what'sthe first thing that comes to mind?
Okay? When you hear the wordthat's funny. When you hear the word

(16:18):
impact, what's the first thing tocome to mind, like the feeling that
comes behind it, So it's likea car accident, the impact of it,
all right. And when you hearthe word limitation, what's the first
thing that comes to mind? Nonexistent? Okay, all right. So
the definition of weakness is the stateor condition of lack and strength. The

(16:44):
definition of impact is having a strongeffect on someone or something. And then
limitation a limiting rule of circumstance,a restriction. Okay, I feel like
there is probably you know, inthe ball park. Does that work that
first one, I don't know,but the rest something I don't have to
start goods needs Okay, so saidneeds. All right, now let's move

(17:08):
into my other segment. What we'rehere for. What is this to do
with mental health? So before weget into the real hoop out of it
all, let me ask you tellme about your background and how you became
into mental health and how you becamelike a counselor. Originally I was an

(17:32):
educator. I was an academic advisorfor the charter schools and Chicago, and
then I switched to becoming a worldhistory teacher for a middle school at a
little income school. And the moreI interacted with kids, the more I
realized, like there's a gap inbetween us, not like as like student
teacher or it was more so likea dope to child and I didn't know

(17:56):
why. And then the more Iconnect with them, the more I tried
to connect with their parents, andI saw it was a gap between them,
and it just like kind of continued, and so I switched from teaching
to social working and saw it waslike a humongous gap in the community,
and I was wondering why there wereso many people like on welfare or even
a dusing a system when it kindof wasn't needed at the time. Now

(18:17):
go for it. Before a lotof dcs, dhs I here to do,
okay, But before upfare it wasno point. And I realized people
were comfortable of having a thirdain mindset. So I wanted to dig deeper and
deeper into if like, let melike going some into a host. I

(18:40):
went back to school and got mymasters. I'm gonna come into health counseling.
And the more I would dive intoit, the more I realized there
were a lot of underlying issues thatwe as a people thought were normal that
wasn't normal even within our family,that I had to like figure out for
myself and address before I can helpanybody else. And so that kind of

(19:00):
just grew and grew and grew towhere I help multiple people. But now
it's more so I'm focused focusing onlike the incarcerated population right now. Okay,
So with that, so you talkabout incarceration and all the good stuff.
So now now that you're there,first of all, I got to
ask a funny question but it's prettydo you since you left education? Are

(19:23):
you upset? You Mike, youdon't get your summers off no more?
Yes, I missed that aspect,but I don't miss the inconsiderate students,
the fighting with the students get themto do work. The lack of school
supplies, like I had to makemy own budget out of my paychecks to

(19:44):
fund my classroom, the gap withparents arguing with them and me working at
Wanted Together, the schools in Chicago, their parents will fight to slash attires,
all that stuff. So I waslike, I felt like, I
love he does the bullet because Iget more benefits and better pay and contracts
ass like working for the state andstuff. So I'm gonna do anybody.

(20:10):
Well, I mean that's definitely truebecause you know, our principle he decided
he's a feeling actually because our originalprinciple she quit. So they moved the
dean up basically, and they tookour computers because you know not because of
COVID testing his own computers. Sowith me being the intervention is Slash the

(20:33):
technology teacher from middle school, theydecided to take middle schools laptops and they
tell we got to go back toold school and having them doing stuff on
paper, which is no, no, not the test, but like just
work, work on papers. ButI'm like, we didn't move, do
you know what I'm saying. It'sa different world now, and you're doing
that to be petty. It wasjust like you hurting them, not us.

(20:56):
But then on top of that,the school I work at is about
to close, so it's it's yeah, it's a lot going on. They're
making a portant statement before they shuty'all down to the foolist. All I
know is May twenty six, reallytwenty fifth. But we up. So

(21:18):
can you discuss some of the challengesyou face in your work as a counselor
you know, we talked about teachingalready, but especially in regards because you
already mentioned earlier, which I don'tknow if we did on purpose, you
had education with limited resources that wetalk about limitations. So any limited resources
in your field now and with anystigma anything, yes, because I'm going

(21:42):
into an environment that's meant to giveyou us naturally, I have to do
what I can work with or getan approved limo to bring in anything extra.
So the biggest limitation right now thatI have is creating a safe space
and also like adequate heat in acmhm, Like our winters were cold,

(22:07):
really cold, and it was tookweeks to get the heat on and then
now it's getting hot and we gota rotating fan in the in the in
the classroom. That's terrible. Yes, So how do you how do you
like make it work? Do youlike dress like when it's hot out?
Do you dress a less? Solike when it's cold when you wearing coats

(22:30):
in your office? Like what wasyou doing? Yeah? I mean I
brought a space heater for one.Defie wore a coat and a sweater,
but um to make it even becausea lot of them didn't have boots,
didn't have the extra jackets, hatsand stuff. I just wore sweater and
thugged out with them. I wantedto make it like an even playfield.
I don't want to make it like, oh well I'm warming y'all cold,

(22:52):
so suck it up like it's theworst now that though, well, at
least you know what they made.It works, as you know. Of
course, we hope you don't staylike that, but you know, the
state they're not giving us no money. Well with that that's another limitation,
limitation and like you feel that wellfirst of all, And we don't get

(23:18):
deeper deeper into it, but justfrom the list of what we heard already,
do you feel like you're able todo? You feel like in a
sense you have like a spirit ofresilience almost. Yeah, I'm very I
can adapt to any environment and tryto make it better on my own.
The words it's conducing to everybody.That's why I said, like, I
don't feel like even though they're givingme limits, I'm not accepting them.

(23:41):
So there is no limit, Like, Okay, I don't have no heat
cool, we don't thug it out, and we still get the job done.
People are still growing in my inthe space that we create. There's
no ac cool. We gonna makepaper fans had a little fan and rotating,
but it's still not stopping nothing.So I mean, you're tossing something
restricted my way, but I'm alwaysgoing to try to find a way around

(24:03):
it, absolutely all right. SoI got some studies. So a tile
study published in the Journal of Personalityand Social Psychology Bulletin in twenty fourteen stated
that people who believe that their abilitieswere fixed I either had a fixed mindset
were less likely to take on newchallenges and had lower levels of achievement compared
to those who believe their abilities canbe developed I either growth mindset and then

(24:27):
a similar study publishing a Journal ofExperimental Social Psychology and twenty eighteen found that
when people were led to believe thattheir abilities were limited by receiving negative feedback
for others, they were more likelyto give up on task and had lower
levels of performance compared to those whowere not giving such feedback. So when
it talks about that and being andyou obviously have shown already. We're gonna

(24:52):
get into some more stuff, butyou've shown already that you can kind of
bounce back, come back from anything. Were you ever in an environment or
grew up in environment or dating anybodywho maybe made you feel as though you
couldn't do something, you wasn't goodenough all like, you know, and
then the easy one, the softone people do. Oh man, yeah

(25:14):
you could do that, but Ithink you should try to do this anything
like that. Yes, oh mygosh, yes, my whole life.
Which story you want? Well,look we're gonna we're gonna open up more
utols. So we got the shortance. We're gonna get the long dance in
a minute, and then it says, as one blog on the post explains,

(25:37):
when we limit ourselves and believe inour limitations, it can take a
toll on our mental health. Itcan cause us to feel depressed, anxious
and stuck. It can prevent usfrom reaching our full potential potential and living
the life that we want. Nowwe're living the world. You know,
Um, what's some board name who'ssaying living your best life? Utt bit

(26:00):
the ball with Joscelyn Hernandez. Didit and live your best life? Do
it like it's your B day.I did have an episode I think it
was last season, this season beforeand I was like, you can't do
it like it's your B day everyday? But in a sense, why
not? Why can't you live yourbest life and go against the grain and

(26:22):
do what you what's best for you? I feel like, and can you
honestly say, at this point intime you are doing what's best for you
and feel good about it? Yes, I am choosing not to live for
any other human being that pays billslike I do. I need to live
for myself and that's where self gratificationcomes from. So yeah, now let

(26:44):
me ask you this. So,so you are a little exotic, so
you know you grew up tell usabout your childhood experiences and including growing up
as an Afro Latina on the SouthSide of Chicago. We had to well,
I'm the darkest out of all mysiblings, so naturally already right there,

(27:07):
Um two dog to be Hispanic andthen the black side, Like,
they're not going to set you anyway, So I kind of have to find
like a nice middle ground be aroundwhich family. It's real conducive to both
sides, not just making you pickone race over another. For growing up
on the South Side was definitely likethe worst. Um, we hot from
house to house every two years,Um, Swiss schools, changing friends,

(27:33):
parents, bigger and consistently gun violence, you name it. So I really
had all the odds against me growingup. Okay, and so Afro Latina
in South side of Chicago? Howmany of how many of them were like,
yeah, how many Afro Latinos ingeneral, Latinos Latinos was in the

(27:56):
South Side of Chicago at that time. It's a bunch of us, but
it's rare to find anybody of mycomplexion. Yeah, and that's typically the
issue I hear a lot of timesin those situations because it's like the black
people will be like, oh,you want of them, and the other
ones that'd be like you're too dark. Yeah, okay. So now after

(28:19):
you talked about in your kind ofyourself store, you know you do your
research on people and talk about observingyour father's struggles and this led you to
pursue a career of mental health,can you share with us as much as
as little as you would like aboutthat. Um My dad's like my superhero
and also the villain at the sametime. Anti hero. There we go,

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antihero. He showed me that heused to work he works for it,
used to work for a Chicago policedepartment. And so no matter like
all the sports and stuff that wedid, he would be on the clock,
drive and the cry across town.Come watch us run track, do
football, cheerleading, you name it. And so he showed me like,

(29:07):
you can make time for everyone todo it. As a father, he
was always helping us with homework,taught us self defense, you know,
taught us all right, we'll wakeup in the middle night, have like
ice cream, a little meals andstuff. So like my dad would he
like my first like best friend.But on the flip side, he never

(29:29):
showed me his seasons and how tosee a man in other ways outside of
just consistently being strong. And soI've never seen my dad cry. I've
never seen him, said, I'venever seen him shoots over bills. I
would hit it, but he wouldnever show it. And if he would
talk about it, will never bein the same space until honestly sat turn
like twenty twenty one, and soI was like a snap. I was

(29:52):
like, where is this coming from? So I told him, like,
you know, I wish you weremore vulnerable as a man in a lot
of ways, because then it wouldhave showed me early on to accept men
in all their stages, to howto love a man properly, not just
the usual could clean and do womanlyduties like no, I need to see

(30:14):
my partner in every way and acceptthem. And instead, when I saw
when I first had my first emotionalpartner, like the tears, the crying
and emotion shout, I'm like,bro, you were pump, like what's
wrong with you? And so whenI got out of that relationship, I
was young too and took a stepback and finally saw my dad having those

(30:37):
moments and seeing like his anxiety,depression, his anger, like how he
would act with people that would triggercertain things. And I'm like, well,
damn, yeah, I wish Iwould have seen this sooner. And
it was normal for y'all to havethese type of thoughts and everything even down
to being like suicidal and not feelingworthy. So now that I've seen it

(30:57):
after that age been like incorporating too, like all my relationships, like okay,
how I treat my brother, howI treat my gud best friends,
and how I treat clients, Likeit's normal to have this stuff. That
doesn't make you any less of aman or anything. It's it's completely normal.
You just have to have better emotionalregulation. Okay, all right,

(31:19):
well that's good. I mean,and it's you know a lot of times
and see you kind of like Ifeel like the honest version because a lot
of times women will be like,oh, I want to see my man
in every season. Then they getthem in every season. Now they're making
tiktoks about them or thing finding uh, it's finding means to put in their
story. So you know, look, I was used to that from like

(31:44):
eighteen to twenty one, right,because I didn't know, Like you don't.
She don't show them. In highschool, y'all be the gish roggish
like and then college wise, y'allbe in your whole face, so you
really don't show it. You maskit up. We look good women.
So when I finally saw it,but hell's wrong with you don't know?

(32:07):
But in my last relationship, whenI saw it more with him and him
like crying a lot and stuff likethat, and he would feel embarrassing,
I'm like, it's okay, Likeit's okay, that's your crying. So
okay, you have these emotions.I'm not judging you, Like let it
out, please before it goes outthe wrong way and you react differently to
somebody else, because that's gonna bebad. Definitely. So you have a

(32:30):
platform, you say you do everything, but you have a platform called where
what happened was? So can yougive a brief description of what that is
and how it came about. Yeah, we took a mini break, but
we're coming back next week. Um. The website, I know I need.

(32:51):
I needed a real mental break.Um. The platform is a safe
space for people to tell their stories. So in my sessions, I allow
my clients my only to have likea narrative approach, but also write letters
to let out like their most traumaticmoments, happy moments with letters to the
younger self, future self. AndI incorporated that into the website and so

(33:15):
it actually worked out great because peoplewere sending stories inconsistently about what they were
going through connecting with other people.Also, there's the mental health tabs to
help you find a therapist in yourarea, something that I've veted for Halfway
House, subant abuse Help, allthe hotlines you name, it's all on
the website. And there's a chatbox that's twenty four hours ago. A

(33:36):
lot of people are actually used tohelp get services they don't want to look
on like psychology today and stuff likethat. I'll do it for them,
okay, okay, And how didyou come about with that? How did
they even come up? But likemy god mom actually brought it up.
I went through a really bad breakupand domestic situation and to where like I

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was quiet for a while and Iwasn't speaking to anybody, and she helped
me get out of my back,out of my shell, get regrounded.
And she's like you know, neverstay silent again. You know, you
need to have a voice for otherpeople to have a voice. So,
like, I took it to heart. And originally the website was gonna be
for my private practice, and Iwas like, skip it. I'm gonna

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make it for like the people.And literally as soon as I launched it,
you know, I had tons ofstories like the first week, oh
okay, wow, and that's funny, And that's how you know right there,
you know it was meant to be. Because for you to have dropped
it that first week and then youblew up, it was like I was
like, it's not right now,we're waiting on it to come back.

(34:47):
Yeah. I took it a nicebreak. I was focusing on you,
seeing suckers on ZAC and all thosemilestones, and travel a lot these last
two months and working in the prisonthese last couple of weeks, I've been
kind of rough. So I waslike, let me just take a mental
break and just to get life backon track first before I died. Back

(35:08):
into all these stories, because alot of them are traumatics, some people
don't want to post them. Theywant them to be read and be validated.
So it's like Okay, let's dothis right, all right, So
now let's move into my other segment. I challenge that, And basically this

(35:31):
segment is used to kind of goagainst what we're talking about, just to
keep the conversation going and to alwayskeep the narrative of I want to discuss
both angles and always we can agreeto disagree. So when I think of
limitations, it's two things I instantlythink about, to be honest, The

(35:52):
first one was COVID and how wecouldn't do anything, and how I remember
everybody couse in front of Pentagon saythat they was gonna shut us down,
and which they did. But youknow, I don't know what was how
the rumor about everybody's stock up ontoilet paper came about not food but toilet
paper. Um, I didn't understandthat. But also some people actually argue.

(36:20):
Because we live in a U afreer world, I'll say that some
people may argue and could argue thatrelationships are limitations. Could you agree or
disagree with that? And if so, why why not? I could argue
that some relationships do have limitations,just probably based off that partner and their

(36:45):
views and how they want you tobe or mold you to be. So
if you are not securing yourself onwho you are in your identity, then
yeah, expect a little to comebehind it. I definitely agree. I
think that I don't think that thatwas my view in my younger days now.

(37:07):
And here's the thing, and Isay this respectfully, honestly, anybody
listening. I think a lot ofit was just that I saw a lot
of bad ones, so I feltlike, and this love, I don't
want it because it's too much likepeople will be on Instagram and love and
then the same homeboard getting the carand he crying like Mcca Feiffon. Pay
the full y'all know what's seen.I'm talking about chest And I'm like,

(37:35):
like, I don't get it twisted. Of course you're gonna go through stuff,
but it's just sometimes like y'all alwaysinto it is always this. It's
a lot. But of course,obviously I feel like, guys, let
me to see some great ones.I've seen some great ones now and I
knew eventually my views would change.But for us some years I was outside
and it wasn't even like and Iwasn't even like howing. I just was

(37:58):
like, I'm chilling you and that'sokay. Why do people think that that's
a bad thing? Like people Ihave friends when it was like that for
me, I had friendsies to belike, oh you need day? Why
are you saying? You know?But I knew when I when it happened,
it's gonna be like the perfect thing, like the fireworks gonna go.
It's just gonna it's gonna be allthat. But let me ask you this

(38:23):
too, So nowdy, so youtalk more about you know, the InCAR
sept britty population and your plans tocreate an all boys mental health center right
now with that because this is thechallenge side. So we're being pity so
we're gonna do how they do withBlack lives matter and trying to say all

(38:45):
lives matter. So you saying allboys, well why not girls too?
Becase I love y'all ladies. Butwe're spoiled. We get everything we want,
Okay, we get the food standas we get the wig, we
get the healthcare, we get actuallybetter ways. It's the halfway houses.

(39:07):
You know, the law kind ofworks not favor for certain circumstances, even
when it comes to mental health anddental, like they won't offer it to
men or offer to us. Therefore, um, I felt like boys need
the extra assistance, the reassurance andeverything that we're already gonna get anyway,
like whether we want or other women, we're gonna get it. And then

(39:29):
so that's good. That's good answer. Actually, So now I'm gonna don't
ask the same question, but I'mgonna ask it with you doing it for
black and brown the black and browncommunity obviously, I know, But why
not everybody? Why everybody? It'sAmerica operating and that and that in their

(39:50):
way, like everything is going tobe for us, Like were we classified
us three? For us as aman? Right right off? The rep
was a mental health not creative forus? The said that we're poor,
We're giving you food, we're givingyou jobs and giving you a roof overheads.
Why do you need mental health?And now we need it more than
ever? Why why not that bethe focus? Yeah, I knew I

(40:15):
was ont cash backlash from it initiallywhen I talked about it, But I
mean, I have a very strongcommunity down here that it's for it and
it's lovely Red State. But likeif I was fearful of it, I
wouldn't do it. But I'm notscared, like people will start off saying
something's black and then change it somemoti cultural and how lovely that is.

(40:37):
The focus needs to be on blackpeople because we're always going to be the
target in some shape of wear forthem. We need not only meant to
help, but say space to actuallydo sports do There are black boys that
want to do trueleading, black boysthat are trying to find safe ways to
come out the clocket, Black boyswho are poor and don't want to say
that they're poor, so they needhelp getting like clothes, haircuts, laune
of service, all that stuff,Like why not have that space for them?

(41:00):
And all these black boys were blackand brown boys obviously, like everyone,
all people will get it, butwe're always the demographic that's not going
to have access to it. No, So I mean I agree, but
again I wanted to be said oncamera. I wanted it to be said
on a platform so a lot ofpeople, but it ain't for y'all.

(41:22):
Okay, Look now, so inyour work with mental health, obviously,
have you ever not watched this encountera limitational obstacle that made you question your
ability to make a difference, Andif so, how did you address it?
Yeah, I actually did recently.M three weeks ago, I had

(41:45):
to let a client go because theykept relaxing. Like at the clinic where
at you know, we give outthe boxing and nerve medications. It can
be like kalinapin or something of thatnature, And so you have to come
in weekly for the first month tohave some service in medicine, to show
like we got a treatment plan.You're gonna be stating, and if you
continue to relapse, we give youwarnings until like the third time, I'm

(42:07):
like, all right, now weneed to buckle down. And so this
person it would be like two weeksof like doing good and great and then
another wall like mess but something.And I felt like I was inadequate because
like, you're getting all these tools, I'm pulling out the wool works.

(42:29):
I'm even talking to my supervisor tohelp you, Like what else could be
it? And so I had tosit back and say, like, it's
not me. I'm not the onethat's giving them the drug to take it
when they're feeling in a certain way. It's not my fault that they're getting
access to it, because I can'tstop access from for everybody, but you
they have the tools they know whatthey're supposed to do. They're adults.

(42:52):
Like you reminded myself, people areadults. You know, don't hold it
over yourself. They just need ahigher level of treatment that you're not going
to provide in this agency. Sowell, you know, it's funny because
I've seen him mean actually the otherday and he was talking about how like
where I'm at this space, I'veseen him mean and I've seen a video

(43:13):
and you're saying this, So thisthree way confirmation, how it's still way
confirmation about like how it work.I feel like what it's kind of going
on a lot of people, especiallyme personally, Like you know, it's
videos girl, somebodow like when Godhas been shown. How about people like
we're so quick to say like,oh, I'm cutting you off, but

(43:35):
then they necessarily ain't not cutting youoff completely. It's more so like I'm
removing you out of this circle.You got to go to the back for
a while. And I think that'skind of what you was doing it.
And I've seen the meme that wasaligned with that. This said something about
like at this point in my life, I can't be around the same people
who still set falling back, who'sstill getting caught up in the same stuff,
Who's still you know, you know, falling to the same temptation,

(43:59):
same stuff. Because it's like,if I'm over here and I'm trying to
be successful and then some people naturallywant to help you, I'm gonna type
what other people have done around mehas never fully affected me. But in
the same breath, you get tiredof all ways. And your case is
a job, so there, youknow, but you get tired of always
being like the front runner, andyou want to be in a situation where

(44:22):
you're sometimes at the lower anyone towork your way up, because I actually
got invited to this thing that I'min now, and I'm at the lower
so the totem post. So I'mtrying to work my way up, which
you know, it ain't no competition. I'm gonna do it. But it's
good to not be the one that'salways like, oh, I'm doing all
this, and they trying they getdistracted. So I think that's so all

(44:46):
right. This is probably so farthis season the best the challenge section I
have had. So I had toget around with applause to you because you
deserve it all. You snap allright. Oh, all right, So
poetic Justice, we're going into theweekly sabbatical and so obviously this is the

(45:09):
time where we kind of reflect andjust just had more even more in depth
conversation. So with you already doingyour snaps and stuff, how do you
incorporate modeling into your mental health brand? But relatable counselor who it works well?
Because me already being a mom,a lot of women want to do

(45:31):
both and so to add that intolike my brand, it helps them provide
like extra confidence and like reassurance likeno matter how they look, they're still
beautiful. Like don't let prenato orpostpartum depression like kick your butt, which
is always like kind of like ourissue as women. But incorporate them both.

(45:54):
It kind of goes hand to hand, honestly. Like my motto is
mother mental at a kid and model, So like either way you're gonna see
one or the other in the samespace. Okay, And have you had
any challenges with being the relatable counseloras you are on Instagram? Yeah?

(46:16):
Yeah, I think the biggest challengeis come in but they called one the
relatable counsel side on my professional side, but talk to me on the model
side, and the NC shuts downlike no. So my biggest thing is
that I need the male population tonot confuse the two, Like if you

(46:40):
want one, say one, Ifyou want the other, say the other.
But when you try to mix itin and throw a little sprinkle flirtatiousness
and there, that's the quickest wayto get blocked. She ain't saying I
follow, she said block now asI said as I say earlier. I

(47:00):
wanted to kind of piggyback off thequote all limitations are self imposed. I
agree with that, but then Idon't because certain things aren't self imposed.
For example, you can't help growingup into bad environment. You didn't bring
it on yourself. You didn't bringon yourself. You know, we could

(47:21):
easily say your mindset is is yourlimitation and you that self imposed. But
what happens if you really have adisorder or you really just struggle with you
know, we talked to Earli aboutsuicide of self work. How do you
just and that's like I want yourcounsel answer or you know, how do
you how do you do it?Like how do you you know? How

(47:45):
do I Yeah, we'll just leaveit at that, Like how you pull
yourself out. And I was tryingto say that, and I thought you
were gonna finish, but go ahead, I was, I was gathering question.
Um, I think the hardest partis is that not living up to

(48:05):
that mental host stigma and finding outyou have that disorder because of the people.
We don't want to do it,like it's fearful behind it. You
think that oh if you have ifyou finally get diagnosed with like anxiety,
depression, bipolar, whatever the casemay be, which is like some of
our biggest things. It's like Igotta take medication. Am I gonna lose

(48:27):
sudden rights? If people don't lookat me like I'm crazy? Do I
gotta go to the hospital. Idon't know how many times people tell me
off the rip that are black,that's say, are you going to send
me away? No, I'm not. I'm gonna help you. It's okay.
And so I think that mental aspectof you can fight past the self

(48:50):
worth and depression and everything and eventhough pudicide thoughts, but you have to
want to get help first, likethat's like the biggest thing and not like
just straight up barbershop talking. Youneed more than it, like that's what
me and do y'all do the barbershop talking, get your head cut.
Yeah, man, you know I'mgonna do this and this and this and
this and this and that forty fiveminutes, dab up and think that's it.

(49:10):
That's not it, that's not it. No. I mean even with
that, Like, I've always haddifferent groups of friends, but like I
have my my main group. They'rereally not the friends for those conversations like
they're actually you know, the onesthat make those they sound like those misogynistic
podcasts people be talking about, likethey sound like them. So I'll be

(49:32):
like, and they and I'll belike, but I don't say none.
I just let them have it.But no, I don't think that's See.
Those are my party friends, myoutsocial friends. I don't bring those
big mental problems too, but myproblems like this, I have my village
of friends and them. I'll beall right, y'all, I'm going to

(49:52):
run into wall like this is goingon with them friends? You got no,
they just it just for what theyare. So as always, y'all
got some tips. So for youmay say like you struggle with limitations or
you feel like you have too manyyou know or you feel like you'll know
how to get over them. Wehave a lights of professional on today and

(50:14):
I got some tips that I researched, So I'm gonna run a boy.
She gonna let me know if there'sa good one or if that one.
I don't know about that one.So are you ready? I'm ready?
All right, It says the firstis to seek support from other Social support
can play a key rolling overcoming limitationsimproving mental health. According to the National
Alliance on Mental Illness, having astrong support system can help you cope with

(50:36):
challenging situations, lawyer stress alas,and improve your overall mental health. And
then, additionally, a blog onthe Mighty states finding and supportive community of
people who understand what you're going throughcan be incredibly empowering. So I'm sure
she's gonna say that's a good onebecause we just said it. So yes,
literally, having two minimum good supportfriends for everything, especially the dark

(50:59):
stuff, for sure. The secondone says practice self compassion. This is
the practice of treating oneself with kindnesscarried understanding. I study publishing A Journey
of Positive Psychology found that self compassioncan increase self esteem and reduce negative emotions
such as anxiety and depression. I'mgonna be honest, I do that better,

(51:20):
but I'm setting out the best atit. I feel like I'm a
little too hard on myself in alot of areas. And you know this
is my own personal thing, soy'all don't have to take this. This
wasn't part of the script. ButI'm a little delusional and so like I
will hype myself up and gasp myselfor even when it wasn't true, and
then it like started to become truea little bit. So I'm like,

(51:42):
look that ain't that. Ain't talkyourself into these scenarios and situations. That's
delusional, we said it. Butit's good. It's not like I'm not
about to go jump off my balphonysaid I can fly, you know,
I ain't like that. Why it'sjust like here's another delusion because you know
she talked about earlier like we asblack people, especially black me, and

(52:05):
they go to the barbershop and theyfeel like if they ignore their mental health,
it doesn't exist. Now. Yearsago, I had a mouse,
right and all wait, and nota pet mouse, like you know how
your mouse will come in or whatever. Um, No, don't. I
don't want to pet critics. NowI do a dog, but I ain't
doing a pet mouse. So um. I had seen the traits of it,

(52:30):
and one day I had heard likesome noise in it sounded weird,
so like how people do with theirmental health, I just said, I'm
ignore it. And then maybe Isaid, maybe I'm tripping. Come in
the house one day, minding mybusiness. I'm going in and out the
kitchen. I turned around, thatran from out under the stove. I

(52:51):
ran the other way, and Ijumped upon the chair like them uh elephants
on lonely tones. I was likeI was. I was out of it,
Like I really was on that sharefor like ten minutes. I was
just like, now, obviously endup. I never saw it again.
So that's a good thing. Butso that's not how mental work. But

(53:15):
that's what I'm saying because in mostcases with an't, you going to see
it again unless you set up something. So in that case, I'm making
the analogy of have some traps thathave some things set in place, so
when those thoughts may come back,or some of those triggers may come back
or address the problem instead of justtrying to ignore it because I think many,

(53:35):
not even just black men, butme and as a gender just do
that, and yeah, it ain'thelp it. So then the third one
says reframing challenges as opportunities. Itsays reframing challenges as opportunities for growth and
learning can help shift our mindset andincrease our motivation. According to a study
publishing a Journal of Personality and SocialPsychology, people who use setbacks as opportunities

(54:00):
for personal growth were more likely toovercome them and achieve them. A blog
on Hapifi explains, by reframing challengesas opportunities, we can approach them with
a sense of curiosity and optimism ratherthan fear and avoidance. So you know,
yeah mine remapping for sure, laughingin the face of danger. That's
what symbolies used to do. Ohno, I don't, don't. Don't

(54:23):
laugh in the face of the anger, because they a just still gonna be
there. They may move quickly,but sidewalk cheeks with it. Look they
see, you've seen this seen inme before. I make sidewalks for ya,
people like y'all, because the streetssay for everybody. Alrighty, last

(54:46):
one, take a small step towardsa goal. Um what advice. So
that's the last one that's simple,was just, um, take a small
steps to go. I'm really bigon that. I actually AIN'TNNA like yall
whole new account about fell off onthat. I was. I was doing
like having my daily goals like threeto five a day, and I didn't
fall off big time. I ain'tdone it in like weeks, So I
need to get back on there.I mentally have them up here, but

(55:07):
I want to get back to writingthem out because they did say forty percent
when you write them out, there'sa forty percent higher chance that you're gonna
do everything. Yes, if youtook the words. I don't know if
you and I do this all thetime, especially if I'm like preparing the
fast. If you write out yourgoals, like just the ones you see
like short terms to say you wantto hit something like in three months or

(55:28):
whatever, just write them once andjust circle them. Every time you circle
them, it's like a self reminderand you're visually seeing it and you're you
know, tapping into fruition. Youstart walking in that manner to actually it
coming true. So yeah, no, if you don't write them every day,
just write it once and circle themfor sure, even with them piggyback

(55:49):
off. That was fast, andy'all, like, it's obviously a biblical
principal, but it has so fastand I've really learned that a lot last
year. It just brings a lotof clarity insight. I feel like you
can sometimes not always, but insome cases, you like you start getting
signs and you're praying for certain things, you start getting like crazy confirmations.

(56:09):
It also helps with food addictions andlike controller because a lot of times you
don't be hungry like you think youdo. Would be a mental thing.
And when I had went through mysecond round of losing weight, I did
a lot of Entermnt fasting and Isaw results from that even with that too.

(56:30):
So I would suggest that y'all dopractice that, you know, just
you know, just because it hasa lot of great effects on the body.
So, now, what advice doyou have for people who may be
hesitant to seek mental health, youknow, for whatever issue forever issues that
they have, especially in the communitieslike ours. Don't be afraid and don't

(56:52):
announce. It matures for you somethingthat you actually want to doc you announce
the people. That's when you bringingother opinions and that's when you kind of
to tear from that path that youwere creating. That's actually positive for yourself.
So don't be afraid, don't announceit. There are several avenues to
get free mental health, or atleast on a sliding scale that you pay

(57:15):
like seventy five dollars or less perprocession. Be open, it's not a
test. No one's like just writingstuff down to just purely diagnose you,
because it's literally for you to knowmore about yourself and underlying issues or subconscious

(57:35):
issues that you never thought was everan issue before until then. There's more
than one way to tackle mental health. There's different theories, so I'm not
gonna say try them all. Butif you don't try all, but if
you need to, if you havean issue to where you have these memories

(57:57):
but the emotions don't tap in,try somatic or MBR or even hypnosis.
Like, there are several ways todo it. There are holistic ways to
do the field for those who areincident, and then there are also those
that are Christian based. If that'swhat you need, it's will to tack
into your sessions so it can makesense for you. So there are different
avenues. It's not just one way, you know, just be open and

(58:21):
be vulnerable. It's okay to bevulnerable. And it's not like you're gonna
change therapists every other week like class. Like it's literally one person until you're
ready to end it. Yeah.I think even with that too, before
we move into the final segment,just picking back off everything so far,
and like I really think, likewith our limitations and like with things,
I do believe in some cases wewere put in those situations, whether some

(58:46):
obviously our self and posts. Idon't believe all are. I believe that
some are self imposts, some wejust was you know, happened to us.
But I do believe that in everythingthat we do, if we point
back to why happened and why wasallowed to happen, I believe that we'll
see that we know that we can'tdo everything in our own power and whether

(59:10):
like I said, that's obviously thehighest one, which is God of course,
but then after that the community too, like you don't have to do
everything in your own strength, andI think when you really learn that,
then you're having And again I've saidit before actually several times this season so
far that our generation was taller.I don't need Nobody's just me. And

(59:32):
that's actually not helpful because, asI said on episode one, and I'm
saying now on episode five, letme know where that's gotten, and I
know you can't because it ain't gottenyou no where. So keep that in
mind. And that ain't shame.I mean it is, but it ain't,
if that makes sense, So keepthat in mind, all right,
y'all. So let's finally move intothe final segment. For the day segment,

(59:55):
it's called limitations. Limitations, okay, and for this game, you're
gonna I'm gonna name a few scenariosand I want you to tell me whether
or not this person is limited orthey're not as limited as they think they

(01:00:17):
are. Okay, all right?So the first one person born into a
wealthy family and has all the resourcesand opportunity they could ever need, but
struggles with anxiety and a lack ofself confidence, which limits their ability to
pursue their passions and achieve their goals. They have limits, but not it's

(01:00:39):
not that deep. The limit inthat situation will most I could be a
poor connection with the parents and themwanting to like you know, they're pushing
or projecting off what they want thechild to do and how they want a
child to live and stuff like that. So that can cause anxiety and depression
because they're not living up to theirparent standards. So there's a slight limit,

(01:00:59):
but I could be fixed with somecommunication and counseling, for sure.
All right, person grows up ina low income community with limited resources and
access to quality education, but isable to overcome these obstacles through their determination
and hard work and became a successfulentrepreneur. Just saying I mean it's just

(01:01:25):
true. So there's a limit,but you can overpower with for sure,
a person experiencing discrimination based on theirgender, gender identity limiting their job opportunities
and social interactions. Limit, there'sa women because I mean our community in

(01:01:45):
general, it's still not open upto so that. Honestly, I don't
think in reality you just say it'sus. I think it's everybody still.
I mean, of course they haveyou know, they have their communities obviously,
but I don't the white people ain'tin for it either, No trust

(01:02:07):
them. And out here, youknow, they got that drag Bill going
on, so I know they're notfor it. They don't want their kids
exposed to it. So I mean, at the end of the day,
it's new in general, within thislast decade of winning those type of rights
and that visibility all means go forit. So naturally there's gonna be some
hesitation behind it. So a personhas that physical disability that makes it difficult

(01:02:31):
to perform certain tasks, but throughtechnology and assistive devices, they are able
to live independently and pursue their interests. Half to have there's still that physical
limit, but otherwise there's no limit, all right. So a person has
a passion for particular field or activity, but due to their famili's expectation and

(01:02:53):
pressure to pursue a more lucrative career, they feel limited in their ability to
pursue their true interests. No limit. Three parents, all right, So
that's funny. I mean, amI wrong? And this is coming from

(01:03:15):
a parent, all right? Imean exact woke up and tells me,
Harry, I want to be adot of sir, go for a buddy
like because at the end of theday, you have to look yourself in
the mirror. It's your life.If you're going to keep living up to
my standards and it's not working.Choose you for sure? Absolutely? All

(01:03:37):
right, y'all. So let's moveinto the question of challenge. But we
remember I love the participation in season. Keep it going, you win money
and what errors do you feel themost limited and why? Now, again
it's anonymous, you don't have totell me. I mean you don't have
to. You're not gonna be yourname is not gonna be shown. But
tell me where you feel more limitedand why, and I'll definitely sure mine

(01:03:59):
too. So we didn't have agreat episode. Anything you want to share
with the people before you leave.Of course your Instagram and y'all, your
socials will be on everything, butanything else you want to share, Yeah,
I don't mind the socials and stuff. But if you need help,
find a therapist to let me know. If you need help with second chances

(01:04:19):
as far as like you have afelling your misdemean on your background, I
can help with that as well.We want to get a halfway house,
jobs, whatever, just come findme. I just cannot contact people on
the inside for you. I likemy job. Okay, all right,
y'all. So that's all we gotfor today. Next week, another Hot

(01:04:41):
Fire episode appreciate your man if forpulling upon us even though it was virtual,
but psay signing out. I alwaysremember to keep your head of like
your neck, Kurt, remember whoyou are, make your mind up,
don't let him make you