On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap all the big moments and surprises from AEW Forbidden Door this past weekend!
- -- We look back at NXT Heatwave and break down the highlights from one of NXT’s biggest summer events.
- -- Sources are now expecting Chris Jericho to return to WWE once his AEW contract expires—what this could mean for both companies moving forward.
- -- AEW suffers a tough blow with injuries to Will Ospreay and Swerve Strickland—and we ask the question: could the timing have been any worse?
- -- We revisit one of the greatest women’s matches of all time, as it’s been 10 years since Bayley vs. Sasha Banks/Mercedes Moné stole the show at NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn.
- -- And we preview and give predictions for WWE Clash in Paris taking place this Sunday live from La Défense Arena in Nanterre, France!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's still.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome, everybody. Welcome to this week's edition The Sorilla Show.
Epis number eight and eleven for August twenty eight, twenty
twenty five issue WWE Flash in Paris Preview and Predictions
edition of s R Team You. I am one half
of the show. I am Jeff Peckner, typically joined by
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my coast the only doctor Gray Franklin. I am writing
Shotgun once again, my friends, Welcome, one and all to
this week's edition of SR T You. Unfortunately, Doctor Trey
unable to make it to this week's edition the show,
as well as the Patreon exclusive show that we will
be doing that'll drop on Friday. Unfortunately, he had a
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death in the family. His wife's grandfather passed away. We wish,
obviously he and his family all the best during these
tough times and let them know obviously that our thoughts
and prayers are with them. He did send over his
Clash in Paris predictions for the show, which is in
typical Doctor Trey fashion. But he is with the family
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this week, and rightfully so that's where we want him
to be, is spending time with the family during these times.
Lots to discuss here on this week's dish of the
show will highlight everything from aw Forbidden, Dora NX, heat Wave,
the latest on Chris Jericho, some tough times for will Os,
Brace for Strickland, a match that make go Down is
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like the greatest match in the history of this show,
and then we'll preview and predict w WE Clash in
Paris all on this week's edition of sr TU. I
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let's get into Forbidden Door. Some of the highlights from
the show. It was a record breaking crowd at the
O two Arena with nearly nineteen thousand fans. The lights
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out Steak Steel Cage main event saw Darby, Allen, Osprey,
Tana Hashing, the Golden Levers, beating Moxley's Death Riders and
the Young Bucks. The postmatch Attack wrote all off will
ospray for surgery. We will cover that in a little bit.
Hangman out of page retains against the retained the AW
World title against MJF in a gritty fashion because it's go.
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Katta retains the United Unitified Unified title over ser Strickland.
Tony Storm retains the women's settle over Athena Brodido shocked
the world and win the AW Attack Team Championship. We
had big surprises Wardlow returning align with the Don Calls family,
Jamie Hayder returning to a huge pop, and then some
takeaways down Coll's family continues to dominate the Death Riders.
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They are creating chaos. Hangman's raid remains strong and now
Osprey's absence looms large. We will delve very deep into
that will Osprey injury and surgery in just a little bit.
But another very solid performance from all the wrestling forbidden
to her this past Sunday. I have been very, very
happy with the AW product as of late. Loved the
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Dynamite at twenty three hundred Arena AKAW Arena this past Wednesday.
That is the closest setup I've seen to an actual
like ECW arena type setup, and I'm almost positive Tony
Kahn did that purposely because he is an ECW fan.
He mentions, you know, he went to an ECW show
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way back in the day, and I grew up on ECW.
It was really cool to see really great arena, a
totally different viewer experience than the one that we saw
almost a year ago when NXT was there. That NXT
show and the twenty three hundred arena did not have
the same energy and juice and look and feel as
the AW show did. I like that AW is just
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putting their head down and just working and doing good shows.
That's the type of AW I like. I don't like
the AW that gets into the weeds and they got
to like battle stuff on the internet or wage war
with we That type of stuff is not for me.
We've talked about it on the PODCAS. I like that
they're just kind of hull hum aligning themselves while Wwey's
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being dicks and like putting their shows on at the
same time as them. With NXC heat Wave that was
took place over the weekend, They're doing with the rest
of Palooza next month, and that's what I'd like to see.
I would just prefer that each one of these wrestling
promotions just kind of stay in their own lane. And
you know, as I was watching the show on Sunday
and then carried over on Wednesday, Mike Man AW has
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had some really good stretches here. I think the only
period of time that I was like, I'm concerned AW
is getting back into their rough patch was when they
did those shows after all in where it looked for
anybody who is a Disney World fan hopefully you get
this reference. If not, look up the Mexico Pavilion in Epcot,
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and it looked like they were performing in like the
Mexico Pavilion in Epcot or the Germany Pavilion in Epcott.
It looked like they were It was the shows in
Choko where it looked like they were performing at like
I don't know, like with those like dinners, everybody goes
around and the nights perform and they are on horses
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and one side wins and all that crap. I can't
really think of it at the moment, like that's what
it looked medieval times. That's what it is. It looks
like a medieval times venue. They were performing them like
this is not a good look, and they had a
couple of stretches where collisions were not good. But they've
been on a really good swing and I'm excited to
see where collision lands at the twenty one three hundred arena.
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I dig that they're doing these residencies. I like that
they got back to smaller crowds, smaller venues because when
they were doing the larger crowds, when there wasn't a
lot of fans in attendance, it was very visibly noticeable
and the crowd reactions were awful. This is a little
bit better cup of tea for me as a fan.
I don't think aw ever reaches the heights of we
and that is totally fine. I think they're probably like
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a step or two above like a TNA where they
have the financial backing and they have like really solid
star power to carry them and good relationships like New Japan.
It's basically doing like the two thousands TNA better than
TNA did, and that's okay. There is a certainly a
spot for that as well. So very solid weekend with
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Forbidden Door, Love the shows at the twenty three hundred
Arena and I'm looking forward to more and just continues
a really really good swing for aw as of late.
As for NXC heat Wave, which also came from a
Neworker Wrestling Navino Arena in Lowell, Massachusetts, you had Obafemi
defeating Javon Evans to retain the NXT Championship. Then he
was confronted by Ricky Saints post match, and how Ricky
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Saints is their rolling contender. Lolavice wins Summer Rock Contenders
match for the NXT Women's title. Dark Safety Throne hankin
Tech to become the new NXC Tech Team champions. Ashby
Elegance wins the TNA Knockout title in a walld trip
with Threat, also with a controversial finish. Blake Monroe beats
Jordan Grace in a brutal undercard war, Chelsea Greeneathan Page
pick up a mixed tag win with outside help, and
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there's some rumblings that this act may carry over to
the Man Roster, which I'm excited for Ethan Page, very
talented guy. And then it just some cross brand buzz. Obviously,
the TENNA Knockouts Championship was featured in an NXT show,
showing the WATNA partnership in action and rightfully putting the
title back on a t and a talent, which is
where it should be. I don't know, disrespect to Trick
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Williams and j C Jane, I don't know if they've
elevated the title and or elevated the title and pass
sense for JC Jane. I think putting the champions on
the brand, on the NXT brand and giving them the
spotlights has certainly helped elevate people's awareness for TNA. So
I thought XAL heat Wave was a very like solid
NXC show. It was just a little over the two
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hour mark. I didn't think it was anything special. I
didn't think it was anything bad. I just thought it
was a very very solid show and not as comparably
entertaining and as fun as Forbidden Door was which had
a little bit more pay per view feel given them
the arena they were in and the attendance that they had,
while NXC Heat Wave again was just like this special
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Satura or Sunday night edition of NXC Television in Lowell, Massachusetts.
So solid weekend of wrestling. Highly recommend anybody who has
Knock Gone Out and watch either show to check it out.
There's obviously tons of good, not a lot of bad,
and it was just a fun weekend for wrestling fans. Again,
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I'd prefer that nxt W does not run the same
weekends as AW. I think there is plenty to go
around and there is no need to put counter programming on.
I can enjoy all of them, folks, so let's set
the tribalism bullshit. We have an update to the story
where sources expect Chris Jerico have signed a w deal
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when his AW contract finishes. After we'd recorded the podcast
last week, Wressell Votes reported that there is a significant
amount of interest in Chris Jerico returning w when his
AW contract comes up, with several in W, including active wrestlers,
wanting him to return. A source expects AWE deal to
be completed for him when his AW contract finishes. When
wressell votes speaks, everybody listens, and that is basically gospel.
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So I fully expect that Chris Jericho will be returning
to World Wrestling Entertainment in twenty twenty six, which is
mind blowing. And I know Tony Kahn had some comments
on the conference call for Roh Death before dishonor where
he said something, if he has the opportunity to work
with like Chris Jericho again, he would love to, so
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kind of foreshadowing maybe or not really answering the question,
but nonetheless rust of Bote saying he is WWE bound,
which is basically slam dunk. Folks rest and observers reporting
that the only thing heard from w W regarding Chris
Jericho is that they expect him to come back to
the company. They also report that there are those in
AW who believe that Chris Jericho is not going to
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be back and will start in w as a royal
rumble surprise. So you have like the BESTE source in
wrestle boats saying that Chris Jericho is w bound, and
you have the best AW source in Wrestling Reserver newsletter
Dave Meltzer saying that AW expects him to go to WE.
So here we are August twenty eighth. I would expect
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come late January early February twenty twenty six. Chris Jericho
is back in w W, which is mind blowing. I
think we really dug into it last week about how
I never thought I would see this happen at best
maybe w Hall of Famer induction. I did not think
Chris Jericho would wrestle a match again, And here here
we are, and it's just now, how do they book
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him basically with the talent roster they have? I mean,
who do you look at as someone that would fit
the mold as having that Christ Jericho match, because he's
going to have a match at WrestleMania that's here in
Las Vegas. Here he'd returned to the company. Is it
seth Rollins? Probably not Gunther? That would be pretty interesting.
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I may be here for all that with a Gunther match.
Would a Roman reigned Jericho match do it? For me?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Punk Jericho? No, unless they kind of can talk about
the AW stuff, which why would they talk about AW
stuff in a WE angle? Would they do Jericho Cody?
Maybe it's kind of a bummer because I think Jericho
is coming back to WE like a year or two late,
because I would have loved to see in Jericho Seena
match one last time. They had a really really good
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feud in the late two thousands that helped put scene
on the map like an six seven ish timeframe when
Jericho started doing that really great heel run where he
didn't like pulled all of his merchandise, barely spoke all
that much and it was very monotone, had a great
feud with the seaw Michaels, a match with Shaw Michaels
and Allata match at No Mercy. So yeah, it's just like, okay, cool,
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Jericho's back. But what does he got to do? Does
he want to help out in NXC, does he want
to commentate? Is he doing this for his Hollywood ambitions?
I would love to know And I can't wait to
read the book someday as to why Chris Jericho decided
now is the time to leave AW and go back
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to WWE, because he was like adamant that he would
not return to w and AW was the place to
bay for him. So some very very very credible sources
adding some more fuel to the fire. That is Chris
Jericho expected to sign AW once his AW contract finishes
this year, which is obviously earth shadowing news. I don't
think it hurts AW at all. I think the AW
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product he hasn't been around for four or five months
now already. I don't think they're hurting without him. I
think the direction of AW has certainly changed, and it's
totally fine with it. I'm fine with it, and Jericho
ending his career in WE I am fine with as well.
So I think it's a great move all around for
all promotions. I think it's a great move for Chris
Jericho as well. As it would appear, this is going
to be something really to keep an eye out for
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in twenty twenty six of Chris Jericho returning to World
Wrestling Entertainment. Now in regard to subtractions from the AW
roster that I think that are going to hit the
company very, very hard. That is will Ospray and Swerve
Strickland's recent injuries. It could not have come at a
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worse time, so will Ospray. They obviously wrote him off
at the end of for Benden Door. He is due
for next surgery. He could be out I'm reading for
potentially over a year, like anywhere between between twelve to
fifteen months, and Swarve Strickland had They also wrote him
off at for benin Door with the chair shots from
Cazichio Coatta to his knee. He has been battling a
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torn meniscus reportedly since twenty nineteen when he was performing
at the WA Performance Center and has been working ever since,
and now is time to get that repaired. He had surgery.
He posted that on his Instagram story on Wednesday. His
knee wrapped up coming out of meniscus surgery. So I
don't know how long that may take, maybe three to
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six months, but we're going like the rest of this
year now without will ospraying sort of Strickland, who are
definitely my top five favorite people to watch in AW.
I think I really enjoy watching Osprey, Strickland, Hangman, MJF.
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And I would probably say right now, Mark Burscow, I'm
all in on the Mark Briscoe stuff. Would love to
see more of Darby, big fan of Darby, but he's
just kind of getting his way back into the day
to day regular operations that is AW. I thought what
I loved what AW has been doing lately, and this
is something I've been really was like banging the desk
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on last year when they were when they changed direction
and got away from really focusing on the people that
the fans had connections with, and that is Osprey, Swerve
and Hangman. No wrestlers have better connections than those three,
I feel like from the AW standpoint, and also they
were dealing with like MGF was out with injury at
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that point, Adam Colehead his injury issues. It was just very,
very bad. So now they've been on this upswing, Ospray
and Swerve had been playing major roles in that upswing,
and now here we are that at least for one
of them, it's going to be potentially considerable amount of
time and no estimated timetable on Swarb Strickland, And it
could not come at a worse time because they are
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they have so much momentum, really good storylines right now,
and even the stuff that we're seeing presently, it's like,
what does AW do in the situation and who steps
up in their absence? Do we see an Orange Cassidy
to return who is just as over Babyface? Do they
give Kyle Fletcher more opportunity to run with the ball.
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We're seeing Kenny omegaback on television. More do we see
Kenoshki Takeshka leave the don Kallis family. Don Kallis kind
of sides more with cause it's go kata between the
two because there's some tension between those guys right now,
which make a ton of sense. I think Takeshka would
be a super over babyface. My guess is that aw
as a plan as they should, right duh. But I
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think that they knew that this was coming and they
needed to start to ramp up some new babyfaces for
the promotion to really focus on. Because right now you've
got Hangman page with don Kallis family in there in
his cross He is in their crossairs right now, and
there are so many people to choose from. Would they
do Okata Hangman at all Out? I don't think so.
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Would they do Katashka Takeshka versus Hangman at all Out?
That's a possibility. Takeshka goes in then to the g one.
If you say he wins and he takes on Zach
Saber Junior Champion versus champion to cash in on his
g one climax victory in that October event that would
be something. Then it's like, would they do Kyle Fletcher?
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Probably not, would be my guess. And then outside of that,
there's a little bit drop off very talented stars. You've
got Lance Archer, You've got Josh Alexander, Like, do we
go to the Wardlow route? Because now Wardlow's like acting
as a bodyguard someone how he did as mjf's bodyguard
with Don Callis so far, so it's like, okay, who
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really steps up? Do they shift Darby into one of
those Ospring sort of Strickland spots? I would guess so
as they should, because he's the guy that you could market.
And then it's kind of a little bit of an
interesting situation again, do you bring back Orange Cassidy? Is
Orange Cassidy is ready to come back from his injury? One?
Do you turn someone babyface? I would turn Kenoska to
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Keshka babyface right now with a little bit of spots
open Copeland and Christian they're doing their thing right now.
Do you you know, maybe bump up Bobby Lashley and
the hurt Sydy Kit now that they've dropped the tag
team titles, and you have Bobby in the title picture.
He's super over with the fans. It's very very interesting,
and this is gonna be very telling to how well
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AW does towards the end of the year, because I
always feel like they have this false swoon where it
has felt like the last two years at least, AW
has had like a considerable drop off following all in,
following all out, where the product just is not as
good as it was like four months prior. They run
into this path where like from what is it Dynasty
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is really really good to all in or all out,
and then Wrestle Dream happens in October and that's like
the beginning of like a swoon for a little bit
where maybe it's three, four or five months where it's
not as good. I will say, last year they did
the residency at the Hammerstein, and I love the shows
that they did there for Dynamite Collision and even Rampage
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when they shut Rampage down. So it's frustrating as an
AW fan. I'm frustrated for AW as a company because
everything has been so good right now and theoretically coming
out Forbidden Door, coming out of all In, heading it
all out, Osprey and Swerve should be at the top
of that card. I mean, that's that's where they should be.
They should be either Vine for the A to W
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World Championship somehow in a babyface versus baby face feud
with Hangman out of page, or feud with some major
heels that aren't in the world title picture with Hangman
Page at that point, do they you know, it looks
like MJFT is gonna shift with Mark Briscow. Mark Burscow,
I think, is someone that they can really have step
up in the absence of the top baby faces. Do
you put like Osprey taken on because it's go Okada
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or Swerve you know continue uses for a feud with Okada.
It's uh, it sucks. It really sucks. As a fantasy,
this happened because Ospray and Swerve for some of the
hard and soul guys of all lead wrestling, and hopefully
see them back sooner rather than later. I would expect
Swerve back sooner rather than later. I am concerned about
will Ospray. I mean, I think it's possible that even
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a year from now, will Ospray is either on the shelf,
or we're starting to still or we're starting to hear
ramp ups of when he may return. I just have
a tough time believing that with a neck surgery injury
that he unless they're working us, he comes back anytime
before a year. So tough tough times there, and hopefully
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aw can take these bumps in the road and continue
their great momentum because they have been an absolute joy
to watch as of late. I saw earlier this week
that Bailey and Sasha Banks aka Mercedes my Name, we're
celebrating the ten year anniversary of their match at NXC
Takeover Brooklyn, which to me is one of the greatest
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matches we've ever covered in the show, maybe the greatest match.
I think it is that steamboat Savage match that kind
of open up the doors and eyes to women's wrestling
on a greater level. I point to a twenty fourteen
NXT Women's Championship Tournament when I want Charlotte and Natalia
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as a match that was like, oh shit, they could
do this, And then I felt like in twenty fifteen,
Bailey and Sasha took a tone on the level and
it's rare, especially nowadays. I feel like that you feel
being immersed in the action, like legitimately immersed from your
living room where you could sit down and you're watching
the match, and you are living and breathing and dying
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with every move and every moment and every little situation
that happens, the ebbs and flows of the match, where
you kind of go into this different world, in this
different dimension, this different universe as you're just enjoying what
you are watching on your television, and this match brought
it for me. There's like a handful of times that's happened.
I remember Kevin Owens Johnsen a match when Owens came
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up from NXT to take on Johnson as the NXC champion.
That was one of those matches where I'm like, I
can't believe this just happened, where Owens won because I
was such a huge and still am huge Kevin Stein
Kevin Owens fan. This is that match as well. Great build,
great storytelling, emotional, and they had the fans on the
palm of their hands. If for whatever reason, you have
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never seen this match, One you're not a real Rustling fan.
What's wrong with you? And two, immediately pause this recording
and go watch this match right now, because it still
holds up to today. Its influence on women's wrestling in
w and AW took it to the next level where
I can safely say in twenty twenty five, I think
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the women's division in both companies is my most favorite
thing to watch because the roster for both women's side
is so deep that it's amazing to see the talent
in both W and AW, and then the quality of
matches the women are putting on each and every week
Raw SmackDown, Dynamite Collision is so really good. Like w's
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women's roster and NXC I want to mention as well,
like it's almost established as a franchise. You're like, this
is a franchise of excellence WWE's women's division. To me,
it feels like aw's women's division is like on this
really good trajectory in upswing where you're starting to see
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some top level talent Athena, Tony Storm, Mercedes Monet, and
then you have this underbelly of women that you could
see really carrying the division in a moment's known as
Chris Statlander, Willow Nightingale, The Triangle of Madness, Julie Hart,
Tekla Sky Blue, Love Watching Them, Mega Baine, Penelope Ford,
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Ty Mellow. It's it's a who's who of future stars
in the women's division that has me really excited for
the AW women's division and where it's going to go.
I think they need to continue to creating the stars.
And it's like watching NXT in twenty fifteen when you
could see the of the card for NXC and where
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the rest of the card was coming up, and you
were like, Okay, I could totally see in a year's
time Chris stat Lander or Willow Nightingale being the women's
champion AW and I would be totally game end down
for it. And I think a lot of that came
to fruition thanks to this match. I think this is
in the timeline of matches and women's matches and moments
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that really stand the test of time of like, Okay,
when was this a paradigm shift?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Four five oh six? The tris Stratus lead a steel
cage match that main evented Monday Night Raw for the
first time is one of those matches. It's not necessarily
remembered as like this earth Shadowing an amazing five star
match classic that they had, but it's a match that
transcended time and helped elevate women to the next level
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because now here they are for the first time ever
main eventing Monday Night Raw, and that was special. I
would throw in the Charlotte's Italian match, TI you I
manage in twenty fourteen. I think it was like it
wasn't a NXT arrival, it was like NXT Fatal four
way or whatever they had at that point. That to
me was like a very telling moment in time where
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that's where I got the realization on it. And I'm
like one of the few that actually like talks about
that match. That's not one that you see as one
that people point to and go, well, this match helped
elevate the women's division, and I really think it should.
They both had I had Brett hard in one corner,
Charlotte obviously had Rick Flair, and it was a tournament
final and it blew my mind. But this match, obviously
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from the NXT men's division, is like the one it's
It's like if Steve Bone and Savage helped put WrestleMania
on the map as like some really good in ring
Matt classics, this is what this did for women's wrestling
and ww AA. It's amazing to see where they are
now in their careers. When Mercedes Monet is nine Belts Monet,
she is dominating all lead wrestling. Selfishly, I miss in WI.
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The aw character really hasn't transcended with me well as
much as the old Boss character from WWE did. And
then Bailey's like in this weird little transitional phase where
I'm really digging the vignettes that've been Aaron on RAW lately.
I'm intrigued to see where her character goes. Where you've
got Ding Dong Bailey and Hugger Bailey arguing with one another.
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I would love to see Hugger Bailey back here. And
we are ten years later from this match, but they
are staples. They are first ballot Hall of Famers for
professional wrestling, for women's wrestling, they are some of the
greatest of all time. And this is I don't think
there's been a women's match, but it's been close to it.
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I think every other women's match like from this point forward,
whether it be WAWTNA, NXT, what have you, this is
the match that you compared to. Yeah, Rhya, Charlotte was
really really good from WrestleMania forty one in LA. How
did it compare to Bailey Sasha Banks from NXC Takeover,
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Tiberstny Storm and statis one. A was really good from
all in, but how does it compare to Bailey and
Sasha Banks from NXC Takeover. So's it's amazing here we
are ten years later. I think it's top three, maybe
number one, greatest match we've ever covered here in the
history of the show due to the impact and how
great of a match it was, and it really really
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changed the game for women's wrestler. I think at this point,
the only thing that's left standing, and I'm glad that
this is getting some traction and momentum, is that it's
time for an AW pay per view to be headlined
by a women's match. So I feel like that is
another thing that needs to come off the checklist because
as it should. Tim of Tony Storm is one of
your most over and entertaining people on your entire roster
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right now, and she's a female, so it doesn't really matter.
Doesn't always have to be a AW Champion of match
or a brutal, violent match Tony all the time. Give
it to telling this Tony Storm. Have a main event
with Mercedes again, maybe even do a trouble threat with Aena,
because I think those three women deserve that right to
be the three that are involved in that an eventual
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main event match for an aw pay per view. With
that said, let's transition over to a preview for an
upcoming pay per view which takes place this Sunday, and
I'm going to butcher this, so bear with me. Perrie
la Defense Arena in Natier, France. I feel like I
like put like a little Hispanic spin on that. I'm
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a kid that did not take French. I took Spanish
in school. Maybe that's why I sound like I have
broken French. It comes to us this Sunday and it's
w Clash in Paris, the first ever time the WWE
Clash in Paris is taking place. They are in Leon,
France this Friday for SmackDown. The French crowds have been
some of the best crowds that w has ever performed
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in front of Leon, France, especially. I am pumped up
for the show. Backlash France was incredible. That crowd was
amazing and I hope the French absolutely bring it on
Friday SmackDown and on Sunday at Clash in Paris, and
I fully expect them to so really look good forward
to it from a crowd standpoint. Now let's get into
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the breakdown of the show here, and Doctor Trey did
send in his prediction. So we have Seamus versus Russev
in a gold a good old fashioned Donnie Brook match,
and both of us have Russev in this one. I
am super excited and stoke that these guys are getting
there an opportunity to perform on the pl They've had
some really good solid matches on raw as of lee
and it's nice to see Shamus and Russo some really
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good soldiers to we getting some PL exp exposure this
Sunday in Paris, France. Excuse me in France. It's on Paris, France.
Next match here is Becky Lynch defending against Nikki Bella
for the WA Women's Intercomental Championship A. Both Doctor Trey
and I have Becky Lynch in this one, really solid bild.
There is no better character in all of us. And
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again here we are again promoting the women's division. Induty.
Then the heel man character big time Becks was all right.
The man as a heel is the best. The man
is a big face it's all right, but the heel
man version of Becky Lynch is the absolute best. And
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really looking forward to this one on Sunday Clash in
Pairs between Becky Lynch and Nikki Bella. Next match here
is Roman Reigns taking on Bronson Reid. Super happy and
excited for Bronson Reid to be in the spot. He
is a very enjoyable character and performer in the ring.
Love watching Bronson Reid. But he will fall to the
tribal chief. The tribal thief will fall to the tribal chief.
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Roman Reigns in this one and just added some more
context here. I think it's really helped the character of
Bronson Reid doing this whole tribal thief stuff with Roman Reigns.
I think it's been very enjoyable and it's nice to
see this side of Bronson Reid taken effect, because I
felt like he could have been a background player behind
bron Breaker and Seth Rollins with a vision stable and
he's not. He's he's kind of neck and neck with
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bron Breaker right now, and you can make a case
over the last month kind of a seven pass bron
Breaker a little bit, which it's I'm pretty sure is
not the intentions of Dooey Right now, I think bron
Breaker is the eventual golden goose for the company. John
Cena takes on Logan Paul. Both Doctor Trey and I
have John sena in this one, and I don't know
if we mentioned this, but both of us have rum
ranges on the last one as well. I was very
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tempted to pick Logan Paul in this one. It would
not surprise me if we decided, let's give Logan Paul
a victory over John Cena help elevate his career in
the final month a couple months of John Cena's run
in Do Douee, we've seen it. I mean they had
him beat aj Styles at WrestleMania, so it's not out
of the question, and he defeats John Cena at Appeale.
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But I would prefer that Scena continues to win, and
that's kind of how we build up towards the end
of John Cena. I'd like to see him not retort
back to the John Cena who was like losing all
the time, and we go out with classic John Cena
on his final couple matches here before he bids up
ad to professional wrestling, and then that takes us to
the main event match here seth Ronins of Defense against
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Cmpunk jay Uso in La Knight in a fatal four
way match for the World Heavyweight Championship. Both Doctor Trey
and I have seth Rollins in this one, and I
think this is a pretty easy match. It's to pick
because he just won the championship. I don't think any
of us think whatsoever that seth Rons would be dropping
it in less than a month time after you ran
the angle that you did at SummerSlam and the months
leading up to it, or the three weeks leading up
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to it. You're doing this so that like seth Rolls
outsmarts the other three and I actually think that this
is more of a set up match for an eventual
Wargames match. It takes place in just a couple months
in San Diego for Survivor Series. It would not shock
me if the vision with either one or two more
people maybe like Drew Mcatarre and Logan Paul will be
taking on like Punk jay Uso La Knight and two
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more people attitude. Maybe they add Randy Orton to that,
Maybe they add Cody Rhodes to that because those are
people who were could be feuding with those folks moving forward.
I actually would have loved Actually, I would love to
see John seen in this one. Can you imagine like
Punk j Uso, l A Knight, Cody Rhodes and John
Scene instead of Randy Orton signed me up to for that.
So seth Ron's leaves Clash in Paris as a worldweight championship,
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and I think this is a match that you start
to see the sprinkling of the build towards Wargames in
late November, because this is kind of around the time
that they started doing that, folks. So there you go.
There is our Clash in Paris preview and predictions. Thanks
to Doctor Trey for submitting his predictions. We will recap
and review it all for you all on next week's
edition OFFSR to you the first show of September. As
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very very happy that Micah Parsons is now a member
of his beloved Kareean Bay Packers. I wanted to open
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was literally going to be my entrance. I just say,
Doctor Trey, can you believe Micah Parsons as a Green
Bay packer my friend, and then that would take it
from there. Touch Tray, a San Francisco forty Niners fan
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Clash in Paris predictions for the show, which is in
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to be, is spending time with the family during these times.
Lots to discuss here on this week's dish of the
show will highlight everything from aw Forbidden, Dora NX, heat Wave,
the latest on Chris Jericho, some tough times for will Os,
Brace for Strickland, a match that make go Down is
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like the greatest match in the history of this show,
and then we'll preview and predict w WE Clash in
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let's get into Forbidden Door. Some of the highlights from
the show. It was a record breaking crowd at the
O two Arena with nearly nineteen thousand fans. The lights
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out Steak Steel Cage main event saw Darby, Allen, Osprey,
Tana Hashing, the Golden Levers, beating Moxley's Death Riders and
the Young Bucks. The postmatch Attack wrote all off will
ospray for surgery. We will cover that in a little bit.
Hangman out of page retains against the retained the AW
World title against MJF in a gritty fashion because it's go.
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Katta retains the United Unitified Unified title over ser Strickland.
Tony Storm retains the women's settle over Athena Brodido shocked
the world and win the AW Attack Team Championship. We
had big surprises Wardlow returning align with the Don Calls family,
Jamie Hayder returning to a huge pop, and then some
takeaways down Coll's family continues to dominate the Death Riders.
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They are creating chaos. Hangman's raid remains strong and now
Osprey's absence looms large. We will delve very deep into
that will Osprey injury and surgery in just a little bit.
But another very solid performance from all the wrestling forbidden
to her this past Sunday. I have been very, very
happy with the AW product as of late. Loved the
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Dynamite at twenty three hundred Arena AKAW Arena this past Wednesday.
That is the closest setup I've seen to an actual
like ECW arena type setup, and I'm almost positive Tony
Kahn did that purposely because he is an ECW fan.
He mentions, you know, he went to an ECW show
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way back in the day, and I grew up on ECW.
It was really cool to see really great arena, a
totally different viewer experience than the one that we saw
almost a year ago when NXT was there. That NXT
show and the twenty three hundred arena did not have
the same energy and juice and look and feel as
the AW show did. I like that AW is just
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putting their head down and just working and doing good shows.
That's the type of AW I like. I don't like
the AW that gets into the weeds and they got
to like battle stuff on the internet or wage war
with we That type of stuff is not for me.
We've talked about it on the PODCAS. I like that
they're just kind of hull hum aligning themselves while Wwey's
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being dicks and like putting their shows on at the
same time as them. With NXC heat Wave that was
took place over the weekend, They're doing with the rest
of Palooza next month, and that's what I'd like to see.
I would just prefer that each one of these wrestling
promotions just kind of stay in their own lane. And
you know, as I was watching the show on Sunday
and then carried over on Wednesday, Mike Man AW has
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had some really good stretches here. I think the only
period of time that I was like, I'm concerned AW
is getting back into their rough patch was when they
did those shows after all in where it looked for
anybody who is a Disney World fan hopefully you get
this reference. If not, look up the Mexico Pavilion in Epcot,
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and it looked like they were performing in like the
Mexico Pavilion in Epcot or the Germany Pavilion in Epcott.
It looked like they were It was the shows in
Choko where it looked like they were performing at like
I don't know, like with those like dinners, everybody goes
around and the nights perform and they are on horses
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and one side wins and all that crap. I can't
really think of it at the moment, like that's what
it looked medieval times. That's what it is. It looks
like a medieval times venue. They were performing them like
this is not a good look, and they had a
couple of stretches where collisions were not good. But they've
been on a really good swing and I'm excited to
see where collision lands at the twenty one three hundred arena.
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I dig that they're doing these residencies. I like that
they got back to smaller crowds, smaller venues because when
they were doing the larger crowds, when there wasn't a
lot of fans in attendance, it was very visibly noticeable
and the crowd reactions were awful. This is a little
bit better cup of tea for me as a fan.
I don't think aw ever reaches the heights of we
and that is totally fine. I think they're probably like
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a step or two above like a TNA where they
have the financial backing and they have like really solid
star power to carry them and good relationships like New Japan.
It's basically doing like the two thousands TNA better than
TNA did, and that's okay. There is a certainly a
spot for that as well. So very solid weekend with
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Forbidden Door, Love the shows at the twenty three hundred
Arena and I'm looking forward to more and just continues
a really really good swing for aw as of late.
As for NXC heat Wave, which also came from a
Neworker Wrestling Navino Arena in Lowell, Massachusetts, you had Obafemi
defeating Javon Evans to retain the NXT Championship. Then he
was confronted by Ricky Saints post match, and how Ricky
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Saints is their rolling contender. Lolavice wins Summer Rock Contenders
match for the NXT Women's title. Dark Safety Throne hankin
Tech to become the new NXC Tech Team champions. Ashby
Elegance wins the TNA Knockout title in a walld trip
with Threat, also with a controversial finish. Blake Monroe beats
Jordan Grace in a brutal undercard war, Chelsea Greeneathan Page
pick up a mixed tag win with outside help, and
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there's some rumblings that this act may carry over to
the Man Roster, which I'm excited for Ethan Page, very
talented guy. And then it just some cross brand buzz. Obviously,
the TENNA Knockouts Championship was featured in an NXT show,
showing the WATNA partnership in action and rightfully putting the
title back on a t and a talent, which is
where it should be. I don't know, disrespect to Trick
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Williams and j C Jane, I don't know if they've
elevated the title and or elevated the title and pass
sense for JC Jane. I think putting the champions on
the brand, on the NXT brand and giving them the
spotlights has certainly helped elevate people's awareness for TNA. So
I thought XAL heat Wave was a very like solid
NXC show. It was just a little over the two
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hour mark. I didn't think it was anything special. I
didn't think it was anything bad. I just thought it
was a very very solid show and not as comparably
entertaining and as fun as Forbidden Door was which had
a little bit more pay per view feel given them
the arena they were in and the attendance that they had,
while NXC Heat Wave again was just like this special
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Satura or Sunday night edition of NXC Television in Lowell, Massachusetts.
So solid weekend of wrestling. Highly recommend anybody who has
Knock Gone Out and watch either show to check it out.
There's obviously tons of good, not a lot of bad,
and it was just a fun weekend for wrestling fans. Again,
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I'd prefer that nxt W does not run the same
weekends as AW. I think there is plenty to go
around and there is no need to put counter programming on.
I can enjoy all of them, folks, so let's set
the tribalism bullshit. We have an update to the story
where sources expect Chris Jerico have signed a w deal
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when his AW contract finishes. After we'd recorded the podcast
last week, Wressell Votes reported that there is a significant
amount of interest in Chris Jerico returning w when his
AW contract comes up, with several in W, including active wrestlers,
wanting him to return. A source expects AWE deal to
be completed for him when his AW contract finishes. When
wressell votes speaks, everybody listens, and that is basically gospel.
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So I fully expect that Chris Jericho will be returning
to World Wrestling Entertainment in twenty twenty six, which is
mind blowing. And I know Tony Kahn had some comments
on the conference call for Roh Death before dishonor where
he said something, if he has the opportunity to work
with like Chris Jericho again, he would love to, so
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kind of foreshadowing maybe or not really answering the question,
but nonetheless rust of Bote saying he is WWE bound,
which is basically slam dunk. Folks rest and observers reporting
that the only thing heard from w W regarding Chris
Jericho is that they expect him to come back to
the company. They also report that there are those in
AW who believe that Chris Jericho is not going to
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be back and will start in w as a royal
rumble surprise. So you have like the BESTE source in
wrestle boats saying that Chris Jericho is w bound, and
you have the best AW source in Wrestling Reserver newsletter
Dave Meltzer saying that AW expects him to go to WE.
So here we are August twenty eighth. I would expect
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come late January early February twenty twenty six. Chris Jericho
is back in w W, which is mind blowing. I
think we really dug into it last week about how
I never thought I would see this happen at best
maybe w Hall of Famer induction. I did not think
Chris Jericho would wrestle a match again, And here here
we are, and it's just now, how do they book
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him basically with the talent roster they have? I mean,
who do you look at as someone that would fit
the mold as having that Christ Jericho match, because he's
going to have a match at WrestleMania that's here in
Las Vegas. Here he'd returned to the company. Is it
seth Rollins? Probably not Gunther? That would be pretty interesting.
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I may be here for all that with a Gunther match.
Would a Roman reigned Jericho match do it? For me?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Punk Jericho? No, unless they kind of can talk about
the AW stuff, which why would they talk about AW
stuff in a WE angle? Would they do Jericho Cody?
Maybe it's kind of a bummer because I think Jericho
is coming back to WE like a year or two late,
because I would have loved to see in Jericho Seena
match one last time. They had a really really good
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feud in the late two thousands that helped put scene
on the map like an six seven ish timeframe when
Jericho started doing that really great heel run where he
didn't like pulled all of his merchandise, barely spoke all
that much and it was very monotone, had a great
feud with the seaw Michaels, a match with Shaw Michaels
and Allata match at No Mercy. So yeah, it's just like, okay, cool,
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Jericho's back. But what does he got to do? Does
he want to help out in NXC, does he want
to commentate? Is he doing this for his Hollywood ambitions?
I would love to know And I can't wait to
read the book someday as to why Chris Jericho decided
now is the time to leave AW and go back
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to WWE, because he was like adamant that he would
not return to w and AW was the place to
bay for him. So some very very very credible sources
adding some more fuel to the fire. That is Chris
Jericho expected to sign AW once his AW contract finishes
this year, which is obviously earth shadowing news. I don't
think it hurts AW at all. I think the AW
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product he hasn't been around for four or five months
now already. I don't think they're hurting without him. I
think the direction of AW has certainly changed, and it's
totally fine with it. I'm fine with it, and Jericho
ending his career in WE I am fine with as well.
So I think it's a great move all around for
all promotions. I think it's a great move for Chris
Jericho as well. As it would appear, this is going
to be something really to keep an eye out for
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in twenty twenty six of Chris Jericho returning to World
Wrestling Entertainment. Now in regard to subtractions from the AW
roster that I think that are going to hit the
company very, very hard. That is will Ospray and Swerve
Strickland's recent injuries. It could not have come at a
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worse time, so will Ospray. They obviously wrote him off
at the end of for Benden Door. He is due
for next surgery. He could be out I'm reading for
potentially over a year, like anywhere between between twelve to
fifteen months, and Swarve Strickland had They also wrote him
off at for benin Door with the chair shots from
Cazichio Coatta to his knee. He has been battling a
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torn meniscus reportedly since twenty nineteen when he was performing
at the WA Performance Center and has been working ever since,
and now is time to get that repaired. He had surgery.
He posted that on his Instagram story on Wednesday. His
knee wrapped up coming out of meniscus surgery. So I
don't know how long that may take, maybe three to
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six months, but we're going like the rest of this
year now without will ospraying sort of Strickland, who are
definitely my top five favorite people to watch in AW.
I think I really enjoy watching Osprey, Strickland, Hangman, MJF.
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And I would probably say right now, Mark Burscow, I'm
all in on the Mark Briscoe stuff. Would love to
see more of Darby, big fan of Darby, but he's
just kind of getting his way back into the day
to day regular operations that is AW. I thought what
I loved what AW has been doing lately, and this
is something I've been really was like banging the desk
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on last year when they were when they changed direction
and got away from really focusing on the people that
the fans had connections with, and that is Osprey, Swerve
and Hangman. No wrestlers have better connections than those three,
I feel like from the AW standpoint, and also they
were dealing with like MGF was out with injury at
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that point, Adam Colehead his injury issues. It was just very,
very bad. So now they've been on this upswing, Ospray
and Swerve had been playing major roles in that upswing,
and now here we are that at least for one
of them, it's going to be potentially considerable amount of
time and no estimated timetable on Swarb Strickland, And it
could not come at a worse time because they are
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they have so much momentum, really good storylines right now,
and even the stuff that we're seeing presently, it's like,
what does AW do in the situation and who steps
up in their absence? Do we see an Orange Cassidy
to return who is just as over Babyface? Do they
give Kyle Fletcher more opportunity to run with the ball.
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We're seeing Kenny omegaback on television. More do we see
Kenoshki Takeshka leave the don Kallis family. Don Kallis kind
of sides more with cause it's go kata between the
two because there's some tension between those guys right now,
which make a ton of sense. I think Takeshka would
be a super over babyface. My guess is that aw
as a plan as they should, right duh. But I
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think that they knew that this was coming and they
needed to start to ramp up some new babyfaces for
the promotion to really focus on. Because right now you've
got Hangman page with don Kallis family in there in
his cross He is in their crossairs right now, and
there are so many people to choose from. Would they
do Okata Hangman at all Out? I don't think so.
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Would they do Katashka Takeshka versus Hangman at all Out?
That's a possibility. Takeshka goes in then to the g one.
If you say he wins and he takes on Zach
Saber Junior Champion versus champion to cash in on his
g one climax victory in that October event that would
be something. Then it's like, would they do Kyle Fletcher?
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Probably not, would be my guess. And then outside of that,
there's a little bit drop off very talented stars. You've
got Lance Archer, You've got Josh Alexander, Like, do we
go to the Wardlow route? Because now Wardlow's like acting
as a bodyguard someone how he did as mjf's bodyguard
with Don Callis so far, so it's like, okay, who
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really steps up? Do they shift Darby into one of
those Ospring sort of Strickland spots? I would guess so
as they should, because he's the guy that you could market.
And then it's kind of a little bit of an
interesting situation again, do you bring back Orange Cassidy? Is
Orange Cassidy is ready to come back from his injury? One?
Do you turn someone babyface? I would turn Kenoska to
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Keshka babyface right now with a little bit of spots
open Copeland and Christian they're doing their thing right now.
Do you you know, maybe bump up Bobby Lashley and
the hurt Sydy Kit now that they've dropped the tag
team titles, and you have Bobby in the title picture.
He's super over with the fans. It's very very interesting,
and this is gonna be very telling to how well
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AW does towards the end of the year, because I
always feel like they have this false swoon where it
has felt like the last two years at least, AW
has had like a considerable drop off following all in,
following all out, where the product just is not as
good as it was like four months prior. They run
into this path where like from what is it Dynasty
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is really really good to all in or all out,
and then Wrestle Dream happens in October and that's like
the beginning of like a swoon for a little bit
where maybe it's three, four or five months where it's
not as good. I will say, last year they did
the residency at the Hammerstein, and I love the shows
that they did there for Dynamite Collision and even Rampage
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when they shut Rampage down. So it's frustrating as an
AW fan. I'm frustrated for AW as a company because
everything has been so good right now and theoretically coming
out Forbidden Door, coming out of all In, heading it
all out, Osprey and Swerve should be at the top
of that card. I mean, that's that's where they should be.
They should be either Vine for the A to W
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World Championship somehow in a babyface versus baby face feud
with Hangman out of page, or feud with some major
heels that aren't in the world title picture with Hangman
Page at that point, do they you know, it looks
like MJFT is gonna shift with Mark Briscow. Mark Burscow,
I think, is someone that they can really have step
up in the absence of the top baby faces. Do
you put like Osprey taken on because it's go Okada
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or Swerve you know continue uses for a feud with Okada.
It's uh, it sucks. It really sucks. As a fantasy,
this happened because Ospray and Swerve for some of the
hard and soul guys of all lead wrestling, and hopefully
see them back sooner rather than later. I would expect
Swerve back sooner rather than later. I am concerned about
will Ospray. I mean, I think it's possible that even
(20:56):
a year from now, will Ospray is either on the shelf,
or we're starting to still or we're starting to hear
ramp ups of when he may return. I just have
a tough time believing that with a neck surgery injury
that he unless they're working us, he comes back anytime
before a year. So tough tough times there, and hopefully
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aw can take these bumps in the road and continue
their great momentum because they have been an absolute joy
to watch as of late. I saw earlier this week
that Bailey and Sasha Banks aka Mercedes my Name, we're
celebrating the ten year anniversary of their match at NXC
Takeover Brooklyn, which to me is one of the greatest
(21:40):
matches we've ever covered in the show, maybe the greatest match.
I think it is that steamboat Savage match that kind
of open up the doors and eyes to women's wrestling
on a greater level. I point to a twenty fourteen
NXT Women's Championship Tournament when I want Charlotte and Natalia
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as a match that was like, oh shit, they could
do this, And then I felt like in twenty fifteen,
Bailey and Sasha took a tone on the level and
it's rare, especially nowadays. I feel like that you feel
being immersed in the action, like legitimately immersed from your
living room where you could sit down and you're watching
the match, and you are living and breathing and dying
(22:25):
with every move and every moment and every little situation
that happens, the ebbs and flows of the match, where
you kind of go into this different world, in this
different dimension, this different universe as you're just enjoying what
you are watching on your television, and this match brought
it for me. There's like a handful of times that's happened.
I remember Kevin Owens Johnsen a match when Owens came
(22:47):
up from NXT to take on Johnson as the NXC champion.
That was one of those matches where I'm like, I
can't believe this just happened, where Owens won because I
was such a huge and still am huge Kevin Stein
Kevin Owens fan. This is that match as well. Great build,
great storytelling, emotional, and they had the fans on the
palm of their hands. If for whatever reason, you have
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never seen this match, One you're not a real Rustling fan.
What's wrong with you? And two, immediately pause this recording
and go watch this match right now, because it still
holds up to today. Its influence on women's wrestling in
w and AW took it to the next level where
I can safely say in twenty twenty five, I think
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the women's division in both companies is my most favorite
thing to watch because the roster for both women's side
is so deep that it's amazing to see the talent
in both W and AW, and then the quality of
matches the women are putting on each and every week
Raw SmackDown, Dynamite Collision is so really good. Like w's
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women's roster and NXC I want to mention as well,
like it's almost established as a franchise. You're like, this
is a franchise of excellence WWE's women's division. To me,
it feels like aw's women's division is like on this
really good trajectory in upswing where you're starting to see
(24:17):
some top level talent Athena, Tony Storm, Mercedes Monet, and
then you have this underbelly of women that you could
see really carrying the division in a moment's known as
Chris Statlander, Willow Nightingale, The Triangle of Madness, Julie Hart,
Tekla Sky Blue, Love Watching Them, Mega Baine, Penelope Ford,
(24:42):
Ty Mellow. It's it's a who's who of future stars
in the women's division that has me really excited for
the AW women's division and where it's going to go.
I think they need to continue to creating the stars.
And it's like watching NXT in twenty fifteen when you
could see the of the card for NXC and where
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the rest of the card was coming up, and you
were like, Okay, I could totally see in a year's
time Chris stat Lander or Willow Nightingale being the women's
champion AW and I would be totally game end down
for it. And I think a lot of that came
to fruition thanks to this match. I think this is
in the timeline of matches and women's matches and moments
(25:24):
that really stand the test of time of like, Okay,
when was this a paradigm shift?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Four five oh six? The tris Stratus lead a steel
cage match that main evented Monday Night Raw for the
first time is one of those matches. It's not necessarily
remembered as like this earth Shadowing an amazing five star
match classic that they had, but it's a match that
transcended time and helped elevate women to the next level
(25:50):
because now here they are for the first time ever
main eventing Monday Night Raw, and that was special. I
would throw in the Charlotte's Italian match, TI you I
manage in twenty fourteen. I think it was like it
wasn't a NXT arrival, it was like NXT Fatal four
way or whatever they had at that point. That to
me was like a very telling moment in time where
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that's where I got the realization on it. And I'm
like one of the few that actually like talks about
that match. That's not one that you see as one
that people point to and go, well, this match helped
elevate the women's division, and I really think it should.
They both had I had Brett hard in one corner,
Charlotte obviously had Rick Flair, and it was a tournament
final and it blew my mind. But this match, obviously
(26:37):
from the NXT men's division, is like the one it's
It's like if Steve Bone and Savage helped put WrestleMania
on the map as like some really good in ring
Matt classics, this is what this did for women's wrestling
and ww AA. It's amazing to see where they are
now in their careers. When Mercedes Monet is nine Belts Monet,
she is dominating all lead wrestling. Selfishly, I miss in WI.
(27:03):
The aw character really hasn't transcended with me well as
much as the old Boss character from WWE did. And
then Bailey's like in this weird little transitional phase where
I'm really digging the vignettes that've been Aaron on RAW lately.
I'm intrigued to see where her character goes. Where you've
got Ding Dong Bailey and Hugger Bailey arguing with one another.
(27:23):
I would love to see Hugger Bailey back here. And
we are ten years later from this match, but they
are staples. They are first ballot Hall of Famers for
professional wrestling, for women's wrestling, they are some of the
greatest of all time. And this is I don't think
there's been a women's match, but it's been close to it.
(27:43):
I think every other women's match like from this point forward,
whether it be WAWTNA, NXT, what have you, this is
the match that you compared to. Yeah, Rhya, Charlotte was
really really good from WrestleMania forty one in LA. How
did it compare to Bailey Sasha Banks from NXC Takeover,
(28:04):
Tiberstny Storm and statis one. A was really good from
all in, but how does it compare to Bailey and
Sasha Banks from NXC Takeover. So's it's amazing here we
are ten years later. I think it's top three, maybe
number one, greatest match we've ever covered here in the
history of the show due to the impact and how
great of a match it was, and it really really
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changed the game for women's wrestler. I think at this point,
the only thing that's left standing, and I'm glad that
this is getting some traction and momentum, is that it's
time for an AW pay per view to be headlined
by a women's match. So I feel like that is
another thing that needs to come off the checklist because
as it should. Tim of Tony Storm is one of
your most over and entertaining people on your entire roster
(28:49):
right now, and she's a female, so it doesn't really matter.
Doesn't always have to be a AW Champion of match
or a brutal, violent match Tony all the time. Give
it to telling this Tony Storm. Have a main event
with Mercedes again, maybe even do a trouble threat with Aena,
because I think those three women deserve that right to
be the three that are involved in that an eventual
(29:11):
main event match for an aw pay per view. With
that said, let's transition over to a preview for an
upcoming pay per view which takes place this Sunday, and
I'm going to butcher this, so bear with me. Perrie
la Defense Arena in Natier, France. I feel like I
like put like a little Hispanic spin on that. I'm
(29:32):
a kid that did not take French. I took Spanish
in school. Maybe that's why I sound like I have
broken French. It comes to us this Sunday and it's
w Clash in Paris, the first ever time the WWE
Clash in Paris is taking place. They are in Leon,
France this Friday for SmackDown. The French crowds have been
some of the best crowds that w has ever performed
(29:54):
in front of Leon, France, especially. I am pumped up
for the show. Backlash France was incredible. That crowd was
amazing and I hope the French absolutely bring it on
Friday SmackDown and on Sunday at Clash in Paris, and
I fully expect them to so really look good forward
to it from a crowd standpoint. Now let's get into
(30:17):
the breakdown of the show here, and Doctor Trey did
send in his prediction. So we have Seamus versus Russev
in a gold a good old fashioned Donnie Brook match,
and both of us have Russev in this one. I
am super excited and stoke that these guys are getting
there an opportunity to perform on the pl They've had
some really good solid matches on raw as of lee
and it's nice to see Shamus and Russo some really
(30:37):
good soldiers to we getting some PL exp exposure this
Sunday in Paris, France. Excuse me in France. It's on Paris, France.
Next match here is Becky Lynch defending against Nikki Bella
for the WA Women's Intercomental Championship A. Both Doctor Trey
and I have Becky Lynch in this one, really solid bild.
There is no better character in all of us. And
(30:57):
again here we are again promoting the women's division. Induty.
Then the heel man character big time Becks was all right.
The man as a heel is the best. The man
is a big face it's all right, but the heel
man version of Becky Lynch is the absolute best. And
(31:18):
really looking forward to this one on Sunday Clash in
Pairs between Becky Lynch and Nikki Bella. Next match here
is Roman Reigns taking on Bronson Reid. Super happy and
excited for Bronson Reid to be in the spot. He
is a very enjoyable character and performer in the ring.
Love watching Bronson Reid. But he will fall to the
tribal chief. The tribal thief will fall to the tribal chief.
(31:40):
Roman Reigns in this one and just added some more
context here. I think it's really helped the character of
Bronson Reid doing this whole tribal thief stuff with Roman Reigns.
I think it's been very enjoyable and it's nice to
see this side of Bronson Reid taken effect, because I
felt like he could have been a background player behind
bron Breaker and Seth Rollins with a vision stable and
he's not. He's he's kind of neck and neck with
(32:02):
bron Breaker right now, and you can make a case
over the last month kind of a seven pass bron
Breaker a little bit, which it's I'm pretty sure is
not the intentions of Dooey Right now, I think bron
Breaker is the eventual golden goose for the company. John
Cena takes on Logan Paul. Both Doctor Trey and I
have John sena in this one, and I don't know
if we mentioned this, but both of us have rum
ranges on the last one as well. I was very
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tempted to pick Logan Paul in this one. It would
not surprise me if we decided, let's give Logan Paul
a victory over John Cena help elevate his career in
the final month a couple months of John Cena's run
in Do Douee, we've seen it. I mean they had
him beat aj Styles at WrestleMania, so it's not out
of the question, and he defeats John Cena at Appeale.
(32:44):
But I would prefer that Scena continues to win, and
that's kind of how we build up towards the end
of John Cena. I'd like to see him not retort
back to the John Cena who was like losing all
the time, and we go out with classic John Cena
on his final couple matches here before he bids up
ad to professional wrestling, and then that takes us to
the main event match here seth Ronins of Defense against
(33:05):
Cmpunk jay Uso in La Knight in a fatal four
way match for the World Heavyweight Championship. Both Doctor Trey
and I have seth Rollins in this one, and I
think this is a pretty easy match. It's to pick
because he just won the championship. I don't think any
of us think whatsoever that seth Rons would be dropping
it in less than a month time after you ran
the angle that you did at SummerSlam and the months
leading up to it, or the three weeks leading up
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to it. You're doing this so that like seth Rolls
outsmarts the other three and I actually think that this
is more of a set up match for an eventual
Wargames match. It takes place in just a couple months
in San Diego for Survivor Series. It would not shock
me if the vision with either one or two more
people maybe like Drew Mcatarre and Logan Paul will be
taking on like Punk jay Uso La Knight and two
(33:49):
more people attitude. Maybe they add Randy Orton to that,
Maybe they add Cody Rhodes to that because those are
people who were could be feuding with those folks moving forward.
I actually would have loved Actually, I would love to
see John seen in this one. Can you imagine like
Punk j Uso, l A Knight, Cody Rhodes and John
Scene instead of Randy Orton signed me up to for that.
So seth Ron's leaves Clash in Paris as a worldweight championship,
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and I think this is a match that you start
to see the sprinkling of the build towards Wargames in
late November, because this is kind of around the time
that they started doing that, folks. So there you go.
There is our Clash in Paris preview and predictions. Thanks
to Doctor Trey for submitting his predictions. We will recap
and review it all for you all on next week's
edition OFFSR to you the first show of September. As
(34:36):
the football season is upon us and your boy is
very very happy that Micah Parsons is now a member
of his beloved Kareean Bay Packers. I wanted to open
up with that on this week's to the show. That
was literally going to be my entrance. I just say,
Doctor Trey, can you believe Micah Parsons as a Green
Bay packer my friend, and then that would take it
from there. Touch Tray, a San Francisco forty Niners fan
(34:58):
would have loved to hear his thoughts. But bigger things
are in order than a trade, as Doctor Trey dealing
with some family stuff right now. With that said, let's
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Solo show this week covered a lot of stuff. It
always sucks doing these shows by myself, but you know,
it is what it is. We got to be there
for one another. And our thoughts and prayers continue to
go out to Doctor Trey and his family right now
as they are dealing with the family matter on his
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