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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, mister rhdder here, welcome back to another episode
of Credit Podcast Stories. Our first story we'll be reading today,
Karen demands I buy her a second home. After that?
Am I the jerk for telling my girlfriend I told
you so after her friend tried to get with her?
And after that I labeled all the bottles in my
house since my adult kids are idiots. Now, for every
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thumbs up, this video gits one. Karen does not get
to force anyone to buy them a house. Oh come on,
what about a condo then? So please smash that like
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from Reddit. Every single day, Karen demands I buy her
a second home. My husband and I moved out of
our home state almost five years ago to start our careers.
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We were lucky enough to find affordable living arrangements in
a neighboring state and were able to buy our own
home within a year despite our student loan debts. We
were responsible with our money and didn't have any additional
payments other than our mortgage. We both worked six to
seven days a week to maintain our financial stability and
pay off our loans, and we don't have kids yet.
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Because we're trying to pay down our debts. We have
about two hundred and eighty thousand dollars in school debt
plus our mortgage, which is about one hundred and seventy
six thousand dollars. However, recently, my mother in law has
been pushing for us to buy a house in our
home state that she can use for her occasional visits,
which are about four to five times a year. She
wants us to split the mortgage payments between the two
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of us, but we can't afford this additional expense, especially
if we plan to start a family soon. Moreover, we
barely have time to maintain our own home, let alone
a second one, and renting it out when it's not
in use could be an even bigger headache. When my
husband brought up the idea of splitting the mortgage payment
with me, I immediately put the brakes on it. We
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needed to take a good hard look at our finances
before committing to anything. My husband had never seen what
a monthly student loan payment looks like, since our federal
loans have been frozen since he graduated, and I had
been paying mine off even during lockdown. I reminded him
that we both work too much already, and that I
would prefer spending quality time together rather than him working
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more to make payments for an extra house. My mother
in law did not take kindly to my refusal and
has been called towards me ever since. However, my husband
has agreed to seek financial advice to see the bigger picture.
I'm hoping that we can find a solution that works
for all parties involved without jeopardizing our financial stability or
our future plans to start a family long wind? Did
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I know so? Am I the jerk? She only wants
to use it when she comes to visit, which is
about four or five times a year. What a horrible
waste of money they have these things called hotels, motels, airbnbs, etc.
Not the jerk. Mother in law did not appreciate you
not agreeing. Mother in law is a huge narcissist to
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expect you to pay and put her up in a
house of luxury when you are a struggling early career family.
Do not do this. Die on this hill. Not the jerk.
Your husband is a jerk for letting his mom think
even for a second that this would be a possibility
before discussing it with you and the two of you
running the numbers together. You're not the bad guy for
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pointing out the obvious you two cannot afford to take
on additional dit or expenses. He needs to go back
to his mother and make it clear that this is
not financially feasible and that you are not to blame.
The fact that he even considered paying half of the
mortgage for his mom to get his second home while
you two are nowhere near paying off your first or
your student loans is baffling to me. Is he that
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bad with money? Are that much of a mama's boy?
Either way, pump the brakes on having kids until you
two have a very serious talk about finances. Am I
the jerk for telling my girlfriend I told you so
after her friend try to get with her. My girlfriend
and I have been together for about a year now.
My girlfriend has more than a few guy friends, and
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I'm not one of those guys that thinks men and
women can't be friends. However, with two of these guys,
it's very clear that they want more than just friendship
from her, like clear as day, to the point where
I don't get how she doesn't see it. If I
can notice, just by the weird energy they try to
exude when I'm present, she should be able to get
it too right wrong. Anytime I've pointed this out, she
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gets upset with me. She tells me that I am
being jealous and reading into things that aren't there. I
argue back that I'm just letting her know, and as
a guy, I can probably tell much better than she
can realize for herself. So two nights ago, she was
hanging out with her friends and this guy was present.
From what she told me, they were all drinking and
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he said some things that implied he'd want to get
with her. She was made uncomfortable by this and the
night ended shortly after. Fast forward to yesterday morning, she
got a series of texts apologizing for what he said,
and then backpedaling and saying he would treat her so
much better than me, and she's wasting her time with me.
She of course said no, and was upset with him
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after she told me I just read the texts and
simply said, wow, who could have seen this coming? A
bit sarcastically. This set her off and she got mad.
She said that I was being such a huge jerk
to her and she had no way of seeing this coming.
She's been upset with me since. Am I the jerk?
You're the jerk? So someone made your girlfriend uncomfortable, overstepped boundaries,
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She did everything right, told him to get lost, and
instead of comforting her and making sure she's okay, you
scold her. Are you insane? She lost a friend and
you tell her she deserved it, huge jerk? Where was
the scolding? He was insensitive? Yes, that's not equal to
a scolding. He didn't accuse her of doing anything wrong.
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He was unsurprised and insensitive to her being surprised. It
wasn't so much as scolding, but an I told you so, which,
in my opinion, is much worse because you can at
least pretend that a scolding comes from a place of concern,
and I told you so is pretty obviously born out
of satisfaction of being right, regardless of how the other
person was affected. Not the jerk, But come on, man,
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there was no need to gloat. She's probably also said
that someone she thought of as a friend disrespected her
relationship and basically only wanted to hang around with her
just to date her. Not the jerk. Most people are saying,
you're the jerk for the wow, who could have seen
this coming? But the fact is, you were right, and
nowhere in your story did she affirm that you had
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been right all along. If she had said, oh, p,
you were right, and I shouldn't have dismissed your perspective
so quickly, you probably wouldn't have felt any need to
say I told you so. What's most important now is
that you both work together so that in the future
you're playing on the same team instead of me versus her,
not the jerk. Actual men in real life will tell
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you that you're one hundred percent correct. Most of these
guys on Reddit their opinions don't really count since most
of them have never had a girlfriend and they all
just compete for karma points on here. But my advice
to you break up with her now. Find someone who's
smart enough to know that all of her would be
guy friends are just hoping and waiting for an opportunity
to hook up. Find someone who understands how guys actually
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operate and who isn't looking for attention from dudes as
a source of validation. That's how I knew my wife
was the one When we met. We both worked at Target.
At the time, and I kept trying to get her
to hang out with me as friends, but she kept
turning me down, saying she never hung out with one
on one guys because they always just tried to get
with her. Well. Once I asked her if we could
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try actually dating each other, since that was what I
really wanted, she agreed and we were official within a
few days. Now we're about to have our third kid,
and we couldn't be happier again. It may not be easy,
but find someone who understands the real motive that men
will always have, you'll both be much better off. I
labeled all of the bottles in the house since my
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adult kids are idiots. I have two of my kids
living here with me. One has graduated from college and
the other is a junior. I have to purchase medicated
shampoo because of a scalp condition. It's by prescription and
it's expensive. It also comes in packaging that's meant to
be stored upright, not on its side, and definitely not
upside down. My daughter has her hair products in the
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shower and I do not touch them. My son also
keeps his axe body wash, shampoo and conditioner, and woman
repellent in the shower. My son also keeps his axe
body wash and shampoo and conditioner in the shower. I
also do not touch it, since I have zero desire
to smell like a high school locker room. I keep
my shampoo in there as well, since it's my house
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and I can keep my crap wherever I want. For
some reason, the two of them cannot understand that not
all packaging is meant to be upside down. They've already
wasted an entire bottle of my shampoo by storing it
upside down. After they touched it for some reason, it
all dripped out of the spout, which is not engineered
for that. I talk to them both about it, and
I explained that they should not touch my stuff and
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if they accidentally tip over my shampoo, it was meant
to be stored with the lid at the top. I
came home last week to find my shampoo leaking out
of the bottle again upside down. I ordered five hundred
stickers that say this side up with an arrow pointing
upward when the words are upright, and I put them
on everything in the house that might leak, with my
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shampoo being literally covered in them. They had friends over
last weekend and they noticed that the relish ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise,
everything else were all labeled. My kids were embarrassed when
they explained why they think I'm a jerk for putting
labels on everything since they only mess with the shampoo
since it is an eighty dollars bottle. I said I
would take off all the labels if they agree to
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pay for my shampoo. Thus far they have declined. Not
the jerk. My kids are the same way. Your kids
can either learn to leave your stuff alone, put it
back the way it was, pay for your medication, or
deal with the labels. There are several reasonable choices there,
not the jerk. You gave them a chance, You told
them why, and they still did it. Sometimes embarrassment is needed,
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and this was only in your house, so it's not
like you forced their friends to see it. Am I
the jerk for making my nephew cry on his birthday
party over some gifts. I'm female, twenty six. My sister
who's twenty nine, has a son, Eric, who's eight years old.
I don't visit a lot, we live far away, but
I see them and most of my family at birthdays
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and holidays. When I visit, I usually buy Eric a
toy or some candy, as he's my only nephew. To
be honest, I like to spoil him, and maybe I
am a little bit to blame for what happened too.
It was Eric's birthday this week. I visited them and
I brought him a nice toy car. The car was
quite big and had lights and stuff. When I got
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to the party, I wished him a happy birthday and
handed him the gift. He opened it and loved it.
He said, so far, this is the best one, which
at the time I thought he was just excited, But
with what happened later, I kind when you get the idea,
it was intended to be more malicious. Like an hour
or so after the party started, when everybody had already arrived,
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Eric made an announcement to the table in which the
adults were sitting. He said that I've won and that
I was now the person who he loved the most
because my gift was the one he liked the most.
I thought it was sweet that he liked it. Then
he told my mom that her gift sucked. She brought
him a board game, so he didn't love her anymore.
He also told one of his friends that next year
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he won't be invited because his gift was poor. He
gifted him a set of dinosaur figures. I think this
whole thing of ranking the gifts people got him was
pretty crappy. I expected my sister or her husband to
say something, but they didn't. They just laughed. So I
told Eric that he's not supposed to say that about
his gifts. People get him what they can and he
should be grateful with it. He then said he doesn't
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understand why he has to love people who don't buy
him nice gifts. I genuinely can't believe my sister is
teaching this BS to her son. His dad told him, yeah,
they should give you all the best. So I then
again told him that a person's worth is not about
how expensive or big the gift they got him was,
and that if he thought that way, then I will
not be continuing to buy him gifts. Eric started to cry.
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My sister told me off because I made him cry,
but most of my family and some of her in
laws were on my side and told them it was
bad to teach their kids such things. Our mom was
quite affected, and I wanted to leave two, so we
left after that. My sister texted me later to call
me a jerk for leaving before the candles were blown
out and for telling her kid he won't get any
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more gifts from me. She said, I shouldn't make empty
threats like that. I said that it's not an empty threat,
it's a promise until they teach their kids some manners.
Am I wrong for discussing this when my nephew was present?
Am I being unreasonable to him since he's young? And
would I be wrong in the future if I keep
my promise and do not buy him a gift the
next year we see each other. Not the jerk. What
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he did with it was incredibly rude and hurtful, especially
when he said one of his friends wouldn't be invited again.
I don't care that he's eight. The other kid was
probably around the same age. I'm glad you're not enabling him.
It's great if you buy people gifts. I'm a gift giver,
but it's one way of showing love, and it's not
a reason to be rude if the giver put effort
into it. Not the jerk. That kid is lacking discipline
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and common decency. The fact that the parents are making
excuses for it is just awful. They're raising an entitled brat.
Your nephew has learned a valuable lesson. If he treats
people poorly, then there will be consequences. Good on you
for teaching him this when his parents could not. Am
I the jerk for locking up my snacks and calling
out the thief. I work in an office and share
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it with a couple of people. I like to snack.
I eat through the day. Instead of having a huge lunch,
I just have a little snack and watch an episode
of my current show. I always bring it from home
on Mondays. This week it was delicious cheese, crackers, apples, cereal,
and oh so wonderful jello. A coworker of mine let's
call her Maddie, from a different office, saw my snacks
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and knows I snack, mentioned how much I brought and
how good it looked. I said thanks and started putting
it away in my drawer and fridge, leaving the jello
out because I was going to smack on that amazing
strawberry jiggle. I left work early on Monday and had
left my jello out. I came in Tuesday and my
office mate said, lock your drawers because people are trying
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to take your stuff. She's the real MVP. I one
hundred percent don't mind sharing when people ask, but to
just take my stuff without permission as an only child,
that's a huge no no for me. My office mates
know this. They also bring in snacks for themselves, and
we often treat it like elementary school lunch, trading snacks.
During our lunch period. A different coworker, Steve, came in
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and tried taking my jello off my desk. Our MVP
said no, no, no, don't take her stuff. Steve said,
she shares, I can take it. MVP. No, no, that
snack is from her home. If you want snacks, bring
it in like she does. Steve left defeated. Maddie comes in.
Can I have a key to your fridge? I want cheese.
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MVP once again guarded the goods. I locked up all
of my snacks. Maddie comes in a couple hours later,
taking thumbs out of my drawer. This time, our hero
cannot stop her. Tuesday, I come back and lock up
all of my snacks. I have to get up and
move around constantly. One of the times I wasn't there.
Once again, Maddie comes creeping. She was not successful. She
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asks me why I have everything locked. I said because
thieves come in and take stuff without permission. She got
really silent and walked away, though my mom said she
might have thought it was okay since I share and
said I was a jerk. Read it, am, I isn't
it basic human knowledge that taking stuff without permission is
stealing even if I share. Also, everyone has my number.
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If they're truly hungry, they can text me and ask edit.
Thank you to everyone that confirmed I was, in fact
not a jerk. To those criticizing my post for bad
english or punctuation, etc. English is my second language and
I typed this out on my phone. Not the jerk
people assuming that they can automatically take what's yours just
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because you share is garbage behavior. They can ask you
if they want something maliciously ironic name change. Around the
turn of the millennium, I left university to a terrible
job market. I ended up working at a big chain
multiplex cinema in the city center. The management were generally terrible,
but the staff were generally awesome people. As part of
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the uniform, we had to weigh our name badge. Head
office had a habit of making typos on these badges
or not sending them at all, so many people would
doctor them with stickers to correct them, especially white stickers
to allow us to write on the name badge. I
was one of those people. I've had two different badges,
both wrong. After a year or so there, it was
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announced in a staff meeting that no stickers would be
permitted on badges going forward. I asked in front of
everyone and it was confirmed that yes, even if it
was misspelled or had the wrong name. At the time,
my partner was also working there in the back office.
She would often forget her badge and just take one
of the spars that had belonged to people who had left,
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which meant she had a small hoarde of these badges
with random female names. Now, I'd been there for over
a year and never had a correct badge of my own,
but the badge doesn't need to be correct, only present
with no stickers. As a result, even though I'm very
obviously male, I started wearing these various female name badges
with no stickers. For the most part, nobody noticed. I
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had a group of students at box office who asked
does your name badge? Say Rachel, and henceforth remembered me
and would always call me Rachel. On one occasion, I
was talking to a manager when this group passed waving
at me and called out hi, Rachel. This manager then
goes OPI, why are those customers calling you Rachel? Looking
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at my badge, this manager realized that it gave my
name as Sarah. I explained my malicious compliance and was
rewarded with laughter and compliments at my building a good
rapport with the customers. Another one of my managers was
making a random audit of the staff to ensure compliance
and noticed my badge was not in my name. They
tried to tell me off for not wearing my own badge,
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and I pointed out that I had never had a
badge with my own right name on it, and we're
no longer allowed to fix this with stickers, so I
was complying with the rules to wear a badge even
if it's not got the right name on it. This
manager brought me a badge order form that day, but
I had scored full points. One day, the head of
the cinema noticed and I told them that I had
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never had a badge with my own right name, and
they wouldn't allow me to correct it myself. If they
got me a right name badge, I'd happily wear it.
When I left the place after two and a half years,
I was still without a correct badge and still in
malicious compliance mode. Am I the jerk for not owning
a coffee machine or knowing how to make coffee? So?
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Growing up and even now, I've never drink coffee, never
got into it. I don't understand how people drink it.
They say you acquire the taste, but I tasted at
one time thought it was gross, never tried it again.
I don't really drink much other than water, and I
don't need the help getting up early for work because
I never built up a dependence to it. My whole
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family drinks coffee, and most of my friends do, but
I've never made it myself. I lived with roommates for
a bit, but recently got my own small rented house.
I'm the only one who lives there, and there is
an extra bedroom. When family comes to visit, they've been
staying with me, which is fine. I enjoy them staying
with me and enjoy having a house with extra room.
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This has happened a few times with people that stayed
with me, but for this post I'll use the most
recent time. I still live in the same area I
grew up in, but my my parents moved down to Florida,
as many parents who no longer have kids to take
care of do. Recently, they stayed with me for four
days and it was great. Besides the fact that I
do not have a coffee machine, and to them that
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is somehow a crime against humanity. They say that even
if I don't drink it, I should have a machine
and buy coffee, which I think is ridiculous. I have
enough things to keep guests comfortable, and if someone wanted coffee,
they could take a short drive and get some from
any drive through. My parents are one of those dead
without coffee type of people in the morning, and they
brought it up every morning. In the past, a cousin
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stayed with me and one morning was like, where's the
coffee and was upset. My parents bought coffee quickly and
kept it on the counter, but one morning asked me
to make them some coffee, which again I have no
idea how to do that. They think this is rude
and that everyone should know how to make coffee. But
I said, this is like wanting smoothies in the morning
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and being mad that I don't have a blender. My parents,
my cousin, and my aunt two separate occasions, stayed with
me and all made coffee comments, but my parents kept
it up as if it was some mark against my character.
I don't drink alcohol, but nobody's ever whined because there's
no beer in my fridge at it. This is off topic,
but darn, how much coffee are you drinking in the morning.
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I heard people say that one cup from Starbucks is
not enough or convenient, and that they go through three
plus cups in the morning. I don't drink that much
of anything in the morning. I get out of bed
and sip a glass and a half of water, No judgment,
Just wow, so much liquid. Right away I saw someone
mention ten cups. Not the jerk. Why would you spend
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the money in storage space on an appliance you're basically
never going to use, Not the jerk. It's your house.
It doesn't need to have coffee in it. They can
pack their own coffee maker or buy coffee from a
drive through. Like you said, it's ridiculous to expect you
to keep these things on hand when you have no
wanter use for them yourself. I also don't drink coffee
and wouldn't make it a habit to keep but coffee
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stock just in case someone decides to visit me. Not
the jerk, but I don't see anybody giving some pretty
normal advice here. It's normal and polite to have items
in your home for guests that are generally expected to
be there. It's also not unusual to shop specifically just
for items that you know your guests like. For example,
we don't drink juice, but we buy orange juice when
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my in laws come to town. Coffee is so universal
that I would personally have a basic French press around
the house and would be buying coffee when guests came
to town. I won't say you're the jerk, but you
are missing some basic hospitality etiquette that nobody else I
see in the comments is telling you. If you're going
to host, be a good host. Yeah, but there's a
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difference between buying and storing supplies that only get used
when guests are over and a five dollar thing of
juice that will be gone by the end of the
week op situation is not missing any basic hospitality etiquette
at all in my opinion, but I would agree with
you in a different situation. It's just that a permanent
thing that won't get used to biop in their own
house is not op's responsibility. Not the jerk. A cheap
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coffee maker is twenty dollars, a cheap French press cost
ten dollars. It's an identical situation to the juice or
the wine ie stock for people, or a dozen other
random things I buy for guests. This is just normal
adult hosting stuff. I feel like everybody commenting here is
either young or doesn't have many guests. Marketing class group project.
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A few years ago, when I was doing my undergrad
I was in a three hundred level marketing class. In
the beginning of this class, we were assigned groups that
we were supposed to work together throughout the semester. We
were to put together a marketing proposal for a local
professional sports team and pitch it to them as part
of our final grade. Every topic we were learning in
class was to be directly applied to our marketing strategy
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and the whole semester our professor would basically walk us
through from beginning to end on how to put it together.
So early on we divided up roles for each person.
One person does market analysis, another person does the most
applicable marketing strategies, another person does budgeting, etc. There were
about seven people in our group, so plenty of help
to be had for the different parts of the project,
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or there should have been at least We would meet
up weekly, and early on a lot of it was
just kind of roundtable discussion about what direction we wanted
to take it. But as the semester went on, we
started to notice some people were falling behind a bit.
Each person falling behind apologized and assured us they would
have everything done when it was due, but they were
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just swamped with other projects, classes and bs. Come the
final week when we were to put all of our
separate parts together and make it all mesh, guess what.
They hadn't done anything all semester. They might have had
a couple of bullet points on their subject, but it
was far from a completed project and basically something any
middle schooler could have lined out. One they're a professional
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sports team. Two, there are no other professional sports teams
of this sport in the state. Three, they have a
large stadium. I was upset. I and a few others
in the group had spent a lot of time doing
the research and putting it all together in a presentable
form that was sure to impress not only my professor,
but the marketing team of the affiliated sports group. The
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other reliable members of my group and I spent a
lot of late nights working together to cover for the
other teammates laziness. But alas, it was too little, too late,
and we were not going to be able to submit
something presentable by the deadline. And I sure as heck
didn't want a bad grade for the amount of work
I put in for not only my portion, but for
the portions of those who didn't do anything. I met
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with my professor during her office hours and asked for
a deadline extension, to which she replied absolutely not. I
made you away of this project on day one of
the semester, so you have quite literally had all semester
to work on this. Why would you fall short of
the deadline and need an extension. I explained the situation
to the professor, who graciously understood what I had gone through.
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She asked me to provide a list of all memory
of my team exactly what and how much to the
project they had contributed, and gave us an additional twenty
four hours to submit what we could. She said she
would take what I told her into consideration. Come the
day of the presentation, our professor was walking around with
the marketing professionals we were to present to, and I
think she was listening closely to each person's part of
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the presentation to verify what I had told her. Some
of us knocked it out of the park on our portions,
others very quickly glanced over the topics. It was evident
who was a contributor and who was a leech. About
a week later, once final grades were posted, our team
group chat was flooded with what on earth I thought
we had a great marketing proposal, but that jerk gave
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me an f for it type messages from a few
of the members. I got an A in the class.
I always despised group projects almost as much as unaspis
you read it, buy am I the jerk for asking
to be paid. When a family canceled five months ago,
a friend of a friend, Claudia, asked me if I
could watch her son while she and her husband intended
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a wedding out of state. She wanted me to stay
three days, two nights. I babysit a lot to supplement
my income and was interested for overnights. I always charge
my usual rate for all waking hours, and then a
flat rate of one hundred dollars per night while they're asleep.
This covers me still being on call. I can't leave
the house, and if the kids wake up, I'll tend
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to them. Overall, the price for those three days was
going to be eight hundred and forty dollars, which I
know is a lot, but to me, this is a
luxury service. I have ten years of experience. I'm expected
to clean, cook, and drive for kids places as well
as sleep at their house. Unlike other jobs, I'm basically
working three days straight. When I told Claudia, she definitely
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had sticker shock. But when I broke down the price
and she shopped around, she realized I was the cheaper option.
I requested the time off work. I don't get paid
time off, but I figured I was making more doing
this than I would be working three days at my
other job, so I figured it would be worth it.
I'd baby sat in the month since so I can
get to know the kids. I don't have a lot
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of communication with Claudia's husband Rick. Last week he was
the one to relieve me and pay. He asked how
much I was charging for the wedding weekend. When I
told him, he was clearly uncomfortable, but he still said,
we'll see you Friday. This Friday, I got a text
from Claudia saying, hey, so Richard's decided he wants to
take the kids to the wedding. After all, we won't
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need you. I checked with my job and they have
no need for me this weekend as they found coverage. Basically,
I'm out three days pay. I texted Claudia and said
that she needed to pay me at minimum what I'd
make at work in those three days, four hundred eighty dollars.
She told me I was being ridiculous, and the whole
point is they don't feel it's worth it to pay
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that much. I explained that I took the time off work.
We didn't have a contract, which in hindsight was stupid.
I know legally they don't have to and i'd have
no case. I didn't say this, just said the right
thing for her to do. Is to pay. I added,
if they had told me earlier and I was able
to get those shifts back, it would be different. My
friend that recommended me to Claudia says, I'm being ridiculous.
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I pointed out that if I had canceled this close,
they'd be reasonably upset and done for. Am I the jerk?
You did have a contract, it just wasn't in writing.
You're not the jerk, and you should try to collect.
Treat this as a learning experience in the future. If
you have to take off work, ask for fifty percent
deposit upfront. Maybe have a receipt that specifies non cancelable.
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Not the jerk that was super late notice to cancel
and cost you three days wages. Also, never babysit for
them again, even if they pay you, but don't tell
them that until they pay you. Also, if you're in
the know with sitters in the area, give them a
heads up. Not the jerk. You were prepared to work
for them for those days and they canceled at the
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last minute. No, you aren't the jerk for asking for
the money. However, without a written contract, I wouldn't expect
to get a dime from them. No, jerks here. You
should have communicated better with them that you were still
going to charge them if they canceled, and given them
a deadline for canceling, like most other businesses do. If
you did not communicate to them that you were going
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to charge them, they have no obligation to pay you anything. Also,
your rates are too high. That's the same amount I
pay for two kids to attend a full service daycare
for a full week for goodness sake, op okay, And
you also pick up your kids at the end of
the day. Right, I'm assuming they're there nine hours at
the most. Used to work in one that's forty five
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hours a week, and mostly on the assumption that they're
there that long, you may not send them the operating hours.
Teachers likely get breaks or come in shifts. I would
have been working eighty four hours on my own own call,
so even at night, I'm still responsible. I was supposed
to watch these kids for three days straight, no breaks,
no time off. Yes, they'd be asleep overnight, but I
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was still expected to be there the entire time, tend
to them when they were sick, et cetera. Honestly, it's
pretty much as steel because I'm not charging them my
regular rate from when the kids fall asleep to when
they wake up again. This is a luxury service. You
want someone to stay with your kids for three days
and do pretty much everything you would do. It's not
going to be cheap. I accept your judgment on calling
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me a jerk, but I won't accept you judging my
prices and comparing it to daycare when it's not similar
at all. What are they getting that's luxury and beyond
just normal expected babysitting duties, OPI Well, one, most babysitters
leave when the day or night is over. This is
for three whole days. I don't know why you keep
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undermining that. I had to cook all three meals again
for three days, drive the kids around, take them to activities.
They're asking me to give up being in my own
home and sleep in theirs, and be on call while
their kids are asleep for three days. I get no breaks. Again.
A regular sitter gets to go home at the end
of the day. The main luxury is you're getting someone
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for more than a night. This isn't just put the
kids to bed, watch TV and raid the fridge. Not
that I do that for normal jobs, but I think
it's what a lot pitcher when they hear the word babysitter.
They're doing everything a parent would do for three days,
no breaks. That's a luxury. I'll always advocate for affordable
childcare while the parents are at work. That's not a luxury.
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That's just getting by. But wanting to go to a
wedding without kids a luxury. Not a bad one to want,
but it's going to come at a hefty priced. When
you're expecting someone to work for three days straight, you're
describing an overnight babysitter. That's not a special luxury service.
That's fairly common. You do you though, Good luck and
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