Reese On The Radio On NewsTalk 1080 WTIC 2-6pm ET 11/13/25

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Speaker 6 (01:14):
It's Teresa on the radio on wt I SEE News
Talk ten eighty. Happy Thursday to you, and I know
we're about to wrap this puppy up, this whole day up.
We have got a jam pack show for you today
to talk about only a few topics. And I promised

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you yesterday that I would get in depth on it today,
but just a preview today's show. We've got Chris Powell
on the program later on columnists chrispowellcolumn dot com for
all of his writing, So he'll be on a program

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at four o'clock to talk about his latest article on
homeless on the housing crisis as they're calling it, I'm
going to go in another direction today. I think we're
being bamboozled, but we'll talk about that, and we'll talk
about it with Chris.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Chris is going to set us up for.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
My monologue as it comes to affordable house as it
relates to affordable housing.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
In the state.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
And this has been an issue for me because there
are certain things that just didn't add up, and Chris
Powell's article just certified what I was thinking, and so
we'll talk to him.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'll let you know about all of that.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
I've got one topic that will dovetail into another, and
that's the DCF issue as it relates to the Waterbury
case and Mimi Tarez's case, and then how that dovetails
into homeschooling, which is inn our goal that I read

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today from Newsweek, and there's so much too. All of
that so jam packed but very limited on topics, plus
your phone calls at eight six zero five two two
WTIC eight six zero five two two nine to eight,
four to two. I would have thank my wife for

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bailing on me. While I was in the gym today,
she picked up a couple of weights she got in
the elliptical.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
She didn't feel comfortable.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
She was out of it. She said, yeah, I'm just
going after she forced me to work out this morning,
which I did. I did work out this morning. I
broke a sweat and I was telling Roland, I don't
feel myself today. I ate avocado in the morning. I
don't eat avocado anytime, but my.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Wife gave me about half avocado to eat this morning
with some eggs and some bacon.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
I had to have coffee with no sugar. Her we're
part time fasting, so therefore we eat every twelve hours.
This is to bring my weight down a little bit.
I'll admit I've gained a few pounds. But she bailed
on me in the gym this morning. She said, you
know what, I'll come on, I'll be here leader. You

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have fun the objective and I got it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
She didn't have to fool me. She gave me the
impression I want you to come work out with me,
and of course I don't want to disappoint my wife.
I wake up in the morning, I get dressed. She goes,
what are you doing? We're going to the gym. I
thought we're doing a gym thing. Okay, gets up, I
get in the gym. I start getting a rhythm. She
turns around and says, yeah, you know, I'm gonna come later.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I can't quit now because I'm not a quitter.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Well less it's cigarettes and booze, but you know what
I mean, So I gotta look like you know I
can do it.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
So I do it. I work out for a half
an hour and I broke, I mean a good sweat,
watching Fox News, getting my morning on, drinking.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
A hot cup of coffee with no sugar. She tells me,
I'm going to get used to it.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I think ye.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
She she's lying. She's flat out lying. I'm not getting
used to it. Coffee without sugar. It's just muddy water,
That's all it is.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
There's no taste to it, just tastes like dirty water.
What's I'd rather just drink water, which is probably what
I'm going to end up doing from now on. I'm
just gonna have to get up the old natural way.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna inject myself with caffeine.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I'm just gonna drink water.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
Now, there's there's things you can, you know, have a
little energy drink or something like that.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I won't do those things. Those things give me the jitters.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
All right, so then.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
Google some ingredients to make your own okay from you know, yeah,
and then boom, you got it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Okay. Last time I had an energy drink, I was.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
I was a whole a hip hop concert in Boston,
was it Dos Effects chub Rock. I can't remember who
the oh edog from Energy and the Bulldogs was up
there as well.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
He co hosted with me.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Anyway, the only thing that had to drink was diet
red bull I drank so many of those things. By
the end of the day, I felt like somebody dipped
my whole body in a glass of Alca selzer.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I had fuzziness all over it. I felt like I
was jittery.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
You're not supposed to drink that many.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I think I had about twelve.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, not in one day.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
It was the only thing that had to drink.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
Those those energy drinks, don't They don't do anything for me. No, No,
I don't get energized or anything. I just actually I
get tired.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah. They were the diet ones and at first I said,
oh my god, this is awful. By you know, by
the fifth can, I was like nah.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Also though I don't I don't drink alcohol.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
So I used red Bull as like my alcoholics, alcoholics
to like a restaurant. He asked me if I want
to drink, I say yes, do you have Red Bull?
And they said yeah? And I said yeah, can you
mix red Bull with a pineapple juice?

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Please? And that's mine.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'll have a Red Bull on the rocks.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Red Bull on a rock, pineapple juice. Thank you anyway.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
So yeah, Roland keeps telling me I'm gonna feel better.
I doubt it. So I'm just gonna drink water. I'm
gonna come to grips. Look, I don't smoke anymore. I'm
gonna in March it'll be five years since I had
a cigarette. Not bad, right, I should applaud myself.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Why not five years aut a cigarette?

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Next year next June will be seven years without a drink.
So I mean, if I could do all of that,
I'm sure I can give up sugar and fun.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
You know, a clinical psychiatrist told me what I said.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
It was like, you know what, I've been off of
alcohol for about a year.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I said, you know what, I'm gonna try cigarettes. The
woman looked at me, she.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Said, Okay, slow down, don't get ahead of yourself. Next thing,
you know, you're you know you're talking about you can fly?
She goes, cigarettes are harder to get over than heroin.
I was like, what, Having never done heroin, I didn't
know what to gauge it off of. But I tried
it anyway, And here we are, almost five years later, and.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I don't think about it. Roseanne smokes from time to time,
and people I know smoke.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
In fact, my boys, you know, at my moving company,
they smoked all the time. It took me two years
to get over the hankering, like the urge, but I
got through it. Now when people smoke around me, I
don't even get the urge to smoke alcohol.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Same thing.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Walk through the you know, wine aisle because a big
wine guy back in the day, or to beer asle.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
No triggers. It's like, nope, I'm good.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
So maybe I can with sugar if I get myself
a chance. I think it's quite possible. Anyway, everyone is
the uh in the chat room ended.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Up in the e R with drinking energy drinks, goodness
gracious Wendy. Mike says, holy hell is sugar.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Let me smoke two packs a day, a fifth of
jack a day and lived on fried meat and cheese,
live a little.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Look. I know that. Let me did all of those things.
He lived to a ripe old age. Okay, I'm not
let me. It's funny because what was what was that?
That that meme of Charlie Sheen. And there's another meme
of goodness gracious the guitars from from Rolling Stones, Keith

(09:46):
Richards and he uh when Lamar owed him went on
his on his binger, on his bender and uh, there's
a meme that says, Keith Richards goes, he goes smoke crack,
got drunk and hung out with hookers.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
He goes, we call had a Tuesday and Lamar I
owed him, had a heart attack.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, doing those things I have I have an uncle that.

Speaker 8 (10:09):
It's crazy how biology works, because he did a lot
of drugs. Yeah, and he lived a long time, and
his body was just used to him doing a certain
amount of these different drugs. Yeah, and once he finally decided,
you know what, I'm gonna get clean, his body rejected

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it and he passed away.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Isn't that wild?

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, Like his body had actually acclimated and just became
accustomed to the drugs in its system.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
And worked its way out and kept and kept them alive.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
My live and then he cut it off and the
body said, don't recognize this guy, shut her down.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yep, and that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I was like, wow, Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
How that happened. A year A year after he got sober,
a year later he was out of there.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Holy movie. Interesting, that's crazy. Yeah, I can totally understand that. Anyway.
I just wanted to make that clear.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
So if I'm a little irritable today, it might be
because of that. I'm trying something new.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm trying to get used to it. All right. Let
me begin with the opening monologue by saying this, why
is it that social justice is never extended to the children?
Has anyone ever wondered that there is never a social

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justice program for children.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
When we talk about social justice. As of late, children
have even been blamed for the things that people have
complained about in the argument of social justice. You might
remember Coca Cola had these folks come into their corporate

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office telling them about anti racism programs, and in the
anti racism programs, they were suggesting that your infant child
and or toddler were showing signs of racism even at
that young of an age, and that you were responsible

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for it because you were genetically predisposed as a child
that if your parents were white, you are going to
grow up to be racist. It is also the case
when it comes to transgenderism or I don't know, sexuality
in general, they're always seemed to be sacrificing the kids

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and especially their innocence.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
They tell children.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
That they are innocent and they can't make decisions for themselves, unless,
of course, it's what gender they are or whether or
not they should remove their genitalia. They all seem to
be the ones that we take the social justice out on.
We need to invent things that jeopardize children's innocence, putting

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pornographic books in libraries, having drag queens come to classrooms
for story hour. What social justice is applied to children
in any of these cases that benefits them? Nope, it
all benefits the adults. Usually social justice affects the children

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most in.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
A negative way. And we've been in investigating lately, folks,
as it relates to Mimi Torres, that social justice may
have played a huge role in her death and in

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many cases, the death of plenty of children. I am
not suggesting that anyone is setting out to kill kids.
But what I'm saying is.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
For the sake of social justice, they are putting children
in harm's way because they are the last individuals who
are ever considered when talking about social justice.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It's about adults. It just is. The Mimi Torres story
shows me something very interesting. Hear me out.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
What we know in Connecticut, just Connecticut, is that we
have politicians who are actively protecting a group of people
primarily based on their ethnicity.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You see, when they're talking.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
About illegals in the state of Connecticut, they're not talking
about Afghan illegals. They're not even talking about Haitian illegals.
They are predominantly speaking of Hispanic and Latino. Why because
a majority of those who have come across the border
illegally and have ended up in the state and in

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other places. But I'm just talking about Connecticut tend to
be Hispanic or Latino. And when you are trying to
protect that community from scrutiny or bad press, who do
you protect?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Not the children? Because what do we know? How many
times have we seen a story dan Berry, Hamden, Newington,
New Britain, Bristol, Hartford, How many of the individuals who

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have been arrested have been charged for harming children, and
how often are those stories swept under the rug. You
have to find out about them on.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
National news networks or maybe conservative leaning media here in
the state. You never hear the politicians who protect those
groups ever say that it is shameful and it is
horrible that those individuals were doing those things that those
children and those people need to get out of here.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You will never.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
See a press conference with any of these guys. And yes,
I'm talking to you, John Larson, Yes, I'm talking to you,
Rosa Dolori, Yes, I'm talking to you, Dick Blumenthal, Yes,
I'm talking to you, Matt Lesser, Chris Murphy too. There
has never been a press conference of these folks who
were saying.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yes, these guys weren't bad, they were harming kids, but
that doesn't mean that you sweep up everyone.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Because I can get down with that argument. Some of
these people are innocent, these guys who did the crazy
stuff hurting kids. No, no, no, those guys gotta go. In fact,
hold on, give me a minute, I'll drive downtown with you.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
But no, they're ignored.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Why because social justice is social justice the kids be damned.
The social justice is more important than the children, and
Mimi Torres fell right into that trap. When we come back,
I'm going to explain.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It to you how social justice killed Mimi Torres and
plenty of other kids in the state of Connecticut, in
my opinion opinion, through the neglect of DCF protecting social
justice but not the children. And I have their own

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statements in my hand to prove it. We will not
make any speculations. We will use their own platform to
make the case. Go Nowhere more news, more views, and
more on this topic. When we return. It's Resonner Radio
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all right, we're.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Back Reese on the radio. Wt I see News Talk
ten eight quickly. I want to give a shout out
to Peggy.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you, Peggy.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Peggy gave me some alternatives for sugar in some other editors.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I forwarded him to my wife. She is saying thank
you as well. She just said that to me. And
I also want to thank Katherine m.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
For the kind words and thank you comparing me to
my hero in any way whatsoever, forget about.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
It warms my heart. And you're number one in my
book automatically just for making that comparison. So thank you
so much for that. You didn't have to, but thank you.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Catherine said that it took a little time for me
to grow on her, but she loves the show, and
I expect that. You know, I'm not I'm not typical.
It isn't a typical show. And I knew that from
the outset. That's what I think. That's what garnered the
attention of WT I see when they brought me here,
was like, kind of does radio different? Yeah, and I'm

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glad they recognized it. And I'm glad you did too, Catherine,
as many of you have. And she also stated that
at the beginning of the show rolling, when we played
the line from and the Land of the Free and
the Home of the Brave, she stops, stops whatever she's doing,
she puts her hand over her heart at the beginning
of this show. Yeah, that's and again that was the

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reason why I put it there. It's because I it's
my favorite part of the Star Spangled banner, So that's
why I put it there. Anyway, let's get to this
part of the conversation. Her name is Susan Hamilton. She
is the current head of the Department of Children and

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Families here in Connecticut. She serves as the interim Commissioner,
appointed by Governor need Lamont in September of this year.
Hamilton whole to a Master of Social Work degree and
a jurist doctorate. She previously led the department from two

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thousand and seven to twenty eleven and has been its
general counsel since twenty twenty three. This followed the retirement
of former Commissioner Jody hill Lilly in August of this year.
As of November of twenty twenty five, no permanent replacement
has been announced. So now we understand where we are

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and how we got here as far as Miss Hamilton
is concerned. This is what it says about Miss Hamilton's
background at DCF and her background as a child protection
defense attorney. From twenty fourteen to twenty twenty three, Hamilton

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served as a public defender and eventually Director of Delinquency
Defense and Child Protection for Connecticut's Division of Public Defender Services.
In this capacity, she supervised attorneys, social workers, and investigators
representing children, parents, and families in juvenile court matters involving

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DCF investigations. The work inherently involves challenging DCF petitions for
child removal. I'll say it again, This work inherently involves
challenging DCF petitions for child removal, neglect findings or termination

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of parental rights, civil actions that can sometimes escalate to
criminal charges for parents if evidence.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Of abuse emergence. Her focus here was on protecting parental
rights and ensuring fair processes, which aligns with cautious approach
to state intervention but doesn't equate to blanket opposition to
prosecution in several cases. Now, if that doesn't mean that

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she is.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Gung ho in charging families, but she is working as
an advocate to end child removal when DCF recommends it.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Why would anybody do that?

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Policies and statements As a DCF Commissioner from twenty two
thousand and seven to twenty eleven. During her first term
as commissioner, Hamilton helped develop Connecticut's Differential Response System, a
framework that screens hotline reports of abuse or neglect low
risk cases. About forty percent of the reports are diverted

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from formal investigation routes. Which often involve own visits, interviews,
and potential court referrals to voluntary support services like family
counseling or referrals to nonprofits. Families can decline these without penalty,
reducing the likelihood of escalation to prosecutorial or prosecution, sorry

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or removal. This model, later fully implemented by her successor,
emphasizes prevention and family unity over punitive measures. In response
to criticism over a twenty ten neglect case in Torrington,

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Hamilton stated, the safety of children is our paramount concern.
The department works to keep families together whenever that can
be accomplished safety safely. She acknowledged concern about the DCF's
interventions and committed to reviewing them, underscoring a preference for
supportive rather than strict prosecutorial responses. In legislative testimonies, as

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a public defender on bills related to juvenile rights and statements,
Hamilton advocated for stronger protections against coercive police or DCF
questioning of miners, arguing that children need parental or guardian
involvement to ensure voluntary decisions. While this focuses more on

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youth rights than parents, it reflects a systemic push for
due process in child welfare cases, potentially limiting evidence that
could support parental prosecutions. No records found her testifying against prosecutions.

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In general, her comments consistently balanced child protection with family
rights without rejecting accountability for abuse.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
But this is the.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Best part in summary the rumor about Miss Hamilton being
a defender of parents and not children. It's rooted in
her defender background and family centered policies, which could be
seen as anti prosecution in the sense of favoring alternatives

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to court action. However, this is more accurately prescribed as
pro preservation and evidence base intervention, not opposition to holding
parents accountable in high risk situations. If new details emerge,
this could evolve. This is a breakdown of DCF cases

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in the past ten years. Why are they relevant? Well,
we notice the pattern. Let's run through a few. In
the past ten years, reports to DCF are between fifty
thousand and sixty eight thousand in the state. In twenty

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twenty four, the exact number was sixty seven thousand, seven
hundred and ninety five, with forty to fifty percent accepted
for a response. Only half of them were responded to
by DCF.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Removals.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
They peaked in twenty nineteen between fifteen hundred and two
thousand removals. That number currently sits at eight hundred to
one thousand. With a focus on kinship, care and reunification.
That is Mimi Torres's case, children in placement point in

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time at the end of the fiscal year. It declined
in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
At forty two hundred to just twenty eight hundred in
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
This is an incredible drop in children in placement. For
what reason would that drop almost half happen in that time?
We looked into it. In twenty twenty one, the continued
decline in kinship of placements, DCF prioritized those cases for

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people of color.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Why because at the time.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
The percentage of people who were in the system were
thirty two percent white, twenty three percent Black, thirty nine
percent Hispanic, only six percent Asian. I say again, thirty
two percent in twenty twenty one were white, twenty three

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were black, thirty nine were Hispanic. The next year, in
twenty twenty two, they noticed a disproportionate amount of black
cases being sent to DCF. Those numbers declined from twenty

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twenty one.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
But they skyrocketed in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
For Hispanics the number, in fact, from twenty twenty one
to twenty twenty four, the percentage rate went from thirty
nine to forty two percent of all cases in the

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Hispanic community thirty nine forty forty one forty two. What
would have caused that kind of increase a percentage point
every year during twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty

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twenty three, and twenty twenty four. In that same year,
Ladies and gentlemen, the white community, the number was thirty
two percent to thirty one percent, to thirty percent to
twenty nine percent.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
How about the black community.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four, the number was
twenty three percent to twenty two percent to twenty one
percent to twenty percent.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Whites and blacks. As far as DCF intervention was declining,
Hispanics went up one percent year to year. Why why
it's worth the question, isn't it? I think it's better

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than that. I think it's worth an answer. More and more.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
People in every other community going down, only Hispanics going up.
And we had an administration that didn't want police intervention,
but fought for reunification of parents.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
We'll come back. We'll break the rest of this down
when we return. Stand by, it's Reese on the.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Radio, It's Race on the radio on newst I see,
I see now.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
I play all of this stuff for you, folks, if
you're sticking around. We're talking about DCF and its efforts
to keep parents involved with the children who are being
seen by DCF, trying to keep the police out of
the system, trying to keep the police out of it.
They don't want police involvement.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
They want they don't want prosecution of parents for whatever
reason that is. It's only harming the children. This is
nothing more than restorative justice. Why because if a certain
group of people sees an increase in DCF calls in cases,
somebody has decided that this is in some way a

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disenfranchising exercise.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
And that's this is all of their data. I'm reading,
not mine. I didn't find this so I can smear them.
This is their their own data, and they're the ones
who make it clear that they wish to for equity reasons.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Equity reasons, they need to decline the amount of people
who are removed. In one case, in twenty twenty three,
nine hundred equity audits show twenty percent fewer black removals.
They're working on that, keeping the kids from being removed.
What happened in twenty twenty three, Well was it twenty

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twenty two.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Nonetheless, if you have an active participation.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
In protecting the status quo or not ruffling feathers as
it relates to race, you were putting children in jeopardy.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And they know this.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Of course they know this, But it was them. It
was in their own mission statements. Federal audit flags ongoing
black over representation.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
This was their audit in twenty twenty three. This is
their own review.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yes, since twenty nineteen, DCF's Racial Justice Goal one of
seven strategic priorities includes de identifying race and removal decisions,
reducing black removals twenty percent. Who cares whether or not
you're reducing black removals. In order to do that, you

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have to actually neglect the abuse that's happening in the
child's life, don't you.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's the effort.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
So when Len Bestof does this piece on NBC Connecticut,
and who's the chief's name, I'm forgetting his name, Milanson.
Chief Paul Mullanson said this in his piece. It was
a teaser that Len best Off put out on NBC,
but it didn't end up being in the final cut,

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which I was ticked off because I went to NBC
Connecticut's website to go find it. Len had descended to
me personally so that I can have it for the show,
and I thank Len for sending it to me. But
this is an important thing to note again, this is
from the Farmington police chief.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Listen to what he said about the police where they
went to Mimi Torres's house for noise complaint. The chief
said his officers had no way of knowing a child
was missing, or that the Department of Children and.

Speaker 9 (35:25):
Families had a history with Garcia.

Speaker 10 (35:28):
But we work well together when DCF understands that there
was a crime involved. But until that point that they've determined,
you know, that there's a crime or suspect that there's
a crime, really there's not that collaboration, and so that
does become sometimes an issue. So it is it is,
I think something that we will talk about. How can

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we better communicate, you know, now with the issue that
occurred in Waterbury, now with the issue that occurred here
in Farmington.

Speaker 11 (35:59):
How can we better.

Speaker 10 (36:00):
Communicate when uh, you know there's a child that maybe
is will say, unaccounted for.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
And that's all in all the police chief is saying
here is that if there was a coordination, if there
was some way that the two would be involved DCF
and the police, they would have showed up and.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
They would have had it there.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
They've got arrest warrants those individuals, they're looking them up
in the event of a domestic violence issue, if that
person has a warrant, if that person has a restraining order.
By getting those folks names, they run them through the system.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
You know, the police do Hey, I got John Johnson
and Johnny John Johnny, I just check a check him
out for me.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
Yeah, he comes back with two warrants for domestic violence.
Oh yeah, you know what come with us, big guy.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
That's why. So why wouldn't DCF Because the DCF doesn't
want the police involved, and we know that that's coming
from them. They don't want they don't want the police involved.
And if we're talking about Mimi's law, if DCF really
wants to change, if they want any reform, because remember

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we're talking about a DCF complaint that may put lives
in danger. Remember that's the whole point.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
Like DCF is not getting involved for something silly like the.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Kid won't do his homework.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
When DCF is involved, we're talking about child neglect, which
in my view is a crime already, right. I mean,
if you've got DCF involvement and someone is calling about
it in essence a DCF complaint, a DCF complaint is
about the welfare of a child, how is it not
criminally related.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
In any way?

Speaker 6 (37:56):
An investigation must ensue for what For what, whether it's
a misdemeanor or a felony, there has to be at
least for the parent. If they're doing something that is neglectful,
that puts the child in harm's way, you at least

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have to have the parent know, Hey, if I don't
feed my kid, if I don't, you know, properly take
care of my kid, I could possibly be hemmed up
for that. But if DCF is working interference for the
family or the parent for that matter, to make sure
that they don't get in trouble with the law, that's
not benefiting the kid at all. And you can't be

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doing it for stats, not for racial stats. Even that's
reckless that's that's I don't know how else to put it.
We'll take a break, well out.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Some more of this stuff. Let's get to the w
t SEE newsroom. It's recent the radio on Newstock ten
eight wtices.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
On the radio making sense of the news, if even
when it makes no sense at all all Now until
a w t I see news Talk ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I know I heard you say that. It was like
two minutes just flow ignored. I just ignored it because
I got caught up looking at something else. Let's get
to some headlines. I was always sounding low.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
A study by the Texas personal injury law firm known
as Angel Reyes and Associates examined the National Highway Traffic
Safety Administration's Fatality Analysis reporting system to identify which highways
are seen with the highest number of fatal crashes over

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the past three years. The Golden State California outsized present
on the list reflects both its massive population and the
unique dangers posed by its high traffic corridors. But congratulations
goes to Hartford because you made the list. Hartford made

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the list of the top one hundred most dangerous highways
in America.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Do you dare to guess what number Hartford landed on?

Speaker 6 (40:30):
And which highway do you want to go for your
gambling man Roland come on. Which highway do you think
made the top one hundred dangerous highways on this list?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Which highway in Connecticut? And where do you think it
placed on the list?

Speaker 4 (40:46):
I musa say eighty four?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Ding ding ding dinging? You one hundred percent right, it
was I eighty four. And Hartford specifically is where and rank?
Where did it rank?

Speaker 6 (40:57):
Do you think in the top one hundred of most
dangerous highways in essence most fatalities in three years?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Where do you think it?

Speaker 11 (41:07):
Right?

Speaker 4 (41:08):
I must say number seven?

Speaker 6 (41:12):
Oh damn, no prize for this guy. Oddly enough, for
the first time, Hartford has something to celebrate. Hartford landed
at the one hundreds.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
All right, all right, that makes me feel a lot better.
It makes me feel better too. In three years, I
eighty four in.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Hartford has suffered twenty fatalities, ranking itself at number one
in the top one hundred.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I mean number one hundred in the top one hundred.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I mean it's still sad.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
That's still sad, yes.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
But it's not like the radius radius. That's why I
was confused.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Yeah, you would hope that it would be just up
there with the radius, you know, number five for radius,
number seven for most fatalities on a highway.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, that just turned out to be twenty in the
last three years.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
So they got a lotus. But they're they're keeping people
alive on the roads.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
At least, at least at least that you can at
least be thankful for.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
The United States Mint yesterday did its final circulation of
the one cent coin. The Philadelphia of facility yesterday ended
its two hundred and thirty two years of continuous penny production.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
The penny at its roots in the early Republic.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Congress first authorized the copper one in seventeen ninety two
in the Coinage Act, and production at the Mint began
shortly thereafter. Since nineteen oh nine, the coin has borne
the prolific photo of Abraham Lincoln. And they said in

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the God Bless America thing, and they said that they're
going to say fifty six million dollars in order, I mean,
once they've stopped production, which happened yesterday. I do believe
that if I remember this correctly, it takes it costs
three to four cents to produce one penny.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
It costs more to make, which again that baffles my mind.
I just don't understand why they continue to do it.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Hey, Democrats, there go your voting blocks. For the second
straight year, about one in five Americans say that they
would like to leave the US and move permanently to
another country if they could. This heightened desire to migrates
driven primarily by young women. In twenty twenty five, forty

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percent of women aged fifteen to forty four say that
they would move abroad permanently if they had the opportunity.
The current figure is four times higher than the ten
percent who shared this desire back in twenty fourteen, when
it was generally the line with older age and gender.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Groups at the time. So, ladies, if you gotta go,
you gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta go. What
is this stat? I gotta look this up? What is
this stat? For every guy? Them they saved, like for
every guy, there's two women, or for every guy there's
three women. One point five? You actually looked this up.

(44:28):
You know the actual number?

Speaker 9 (44:30):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Right? Is this a field of expertise for you? You
know exactly the number? One point five every guy?

Speaker 4 (44:37):
I think that's what it is in the US, in the.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
US, okay, because I know it's rougher in China.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
Only look that up because uh we we I gotta
hear this story. Me and my friends had a group
discussion about okay, was it polygamy?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (44:58):
Okay, So we were seeing what was the ratio for
women to men and.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So he had that stat at the ready. Hey you
know what, God bless him for the off the clock
research dug by Roland then his homies. Yeah. So yeah,
so if.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
In essence, if these women were to leave, then it
it's it wouldn't really affect men in this country and
ability to find a mate.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
So okay, you know that happens. That happens. Okay, this
one's a long one. I've got to go for this.
The stupidest thing I read today, Yes you do.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
It could well be the person on the leader.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
As I said yesterday, the Epstein files have made its
way to front page news again, and unfortunately for all
you people who are chomping at the bit to talk
about this should be embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
You should be ashamed of yourselves because I get it.
I know it's salacious and many of you think.

Speaker 12 (46:11):
Boy, this is a thorn in Donald Trump's side, and
he's gonna get this is going to really railroad his
campaign and railroad his presidency.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
And I keep telling folks stop embarrassing yourself. Can you
please stop embarrassing yourself, because every time it's brought up,
we get horrible, horrible news on this front.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Now I'm gonna play some audio for you real quick
that you need to listen to. This is audio from
Michael Wolf. This is the guy who is in the
email back and forth with Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
The email that said, as.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
John Silver reported yesterday on this show, that says Donald
Trump knew about the girls end quote. Donald Trump knew
about the girls end quote. This is what that author
who is in a back and forth exchange with Jeffrey
Epstein said last year about Jeffrey Epstein and his exchanges

(47:19):
with him.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Listen.

Speaker 13 (47:21):
At that point, Epstein's legal problems began. The police began
to investigate him over allegations that he was that there
were underage women coming to his house. Epstein believed that
it was Trump who first informed the police about what
was going on at Epstein's house, and from that point on,

(47:45):
they were they were nothing but bitter enemies.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
That's right, there were nothing but bitter enemies because, as
I've told you before, many people have reported that Donald
Trump was an FBI informant because he had personal dealings
with Jeffrey Epstein, and Jeffrey Epstein was trying to poach
girls from mar A Lago for his personal stead. Okay,
we all know that. But here's the stupidest thing I

(48:09):
read today. Same guy. Discredited author Michael Wolfe once encouraged
Jeffrey Epstein to blackmail then president candidate Donald Trump back
in twenty fifteen, insisting that the convicted pedophile could generate.

Speaker 6 (48:27):
A debt from him. The Trump obsessed writer. Email exchanges
with Epstein were among a trove of documents released by
the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday. In one email, wolf
floated the possibility of intimidating Trump for his own benefit,
as he warned Epstein that the then GOP candidate could

(48:49):
be asked about their alleged ties while on the campaign trail. Quote,
I hear CNN planning to ask Trump tonight about his
relationship with you, either on or in a scrum afterwards.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I think you should let him hang himself. He added,
if he says he hasn't been on the phone or
at your house, then that gives you a valuable pr
and political currency. You can hang him in a way
that potentially generates positive benefit for you, or if it
really looks like he could win, you could save him

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generating a debt. So what was Michael Wolf trying to
get Jeffrey Epstein to do to leverage Donald Trump in
one way or another? Saying you could get Donald Trump
to give you a favor, perhaps a pardon, or you
can get political cover, if not media cover, because you

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could be the guy who could suggest Donald Trump and
you had a relationship and it would benefit the media's
efforts to take Donald Trump down. That's what my Wolf
is talking about.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Of course, it's possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey
is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal,
or as a victim of political correctness, which is to
be outlawed in the Trump regime. Wolf noted he also
means that Epstein could be the bullet to end Trump's
twenty sixteen campaign if he decided to openly discuss their

(50:22):
past ties, and suggested that Epstein should have a strategy
in place. Quote, the more Trump looks real or perish
the thought inevitable.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
The more reporters are going to.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
Be focused on this, so as you will not be surprised,
you need a strategy, the author noted in a January
twenty sixteen email exchange. In February of twenty sixteen, he
Epstein responded to Wolf noting that he's being approached by
more reporters as Trump's popularity in the polls grow. He said, quote, no, sorry,

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this is what Wolfe said. Yeah, you're the Trump bullet.
New York Times called me about you and Trump. Also
Hillary's campaigns digging deeply.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
That's ironic.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
Again, you should consider preempting right before the election. Wolf
again suggested Epstein could tank Trump's campaign with an email
subject line that read, now could be the time.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
There's an opportunity to come forward with this.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
We can talk about Trump in such a way that
could garner you great sympathy and help finish him interested.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Okay, now do we get it?

Speaker 14 (51:46):
Now?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Do we get it?

Speaker 6 (51:48):
This is Wolf, the guy that everyone's relying on with
all of these talking about and trying to use Jeffrey
Epstein to undermine tru campaign.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
And saying the media would love you Jeffrey Epstein, if
you were to help them destroy him, we get it.
Yet I'm so happy that you do. It's a zero
five two two WT. I C let's go to Lynn. Hello, Lynn, Hi.

Speaker 15 (52:21):
I'm calling because I've listened to WTIC. I listened to
Rush Limbag for years. But today I tried to call
Eric Ericson to talk about what he was saying about
the tariffs, and they literally hung up on me.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Were you gonna hold on? Let me ask you this, Lynn.
I heard Eric eric sins.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
I think he posted an X video today talking about
his criticism of Donald Trump's tariffs, and he used coffee
as his litmus test for why Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Needs to stop the tariffs. Were you going to call
to counter Eric on that?

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (53:01):
Yeah, Well he was referencing like all food because of
all would and all steel. Yes, when they're building uh
what twenty billion dollars steel mill you think in Ohio? Yes,
So That's why I was calling. But like I said,
it really really got me upset. I will never listen
to him again.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Well, look, listen, I said this, Lynn.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
I watched the video myself, and I get Eric Ericson's
sort of newsletter every day and again not this isn't
about bashing him. I disagree with him on a host
of things. And sometimes I just said to Roling yesterday,
It's like, sometimes I wish people would just say that, look,
I just don't support Trump and this be the end
of it. I'm you know, people need these sort of
like uh twisting themselves into pretzels to one minute, you know,

(53:48):
say that all I support him. In the next minute
say it not just like say you're not a Trump fan,
to just do your thing, but you're one hundred percent right.
I saw that thing that he was talking about tariffs,
but that's because he doesn't like.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Tariffs, That's all it is.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Everic Erickson has made that clear for his entire career
he doesn't like tariffs.

Speaker 15 (54:08):
Well, I like them to bring back Tom Shaddock because
I'm definitely not gonna listen to wt I C during
the day. Oh god, I no, oh yeah, I will
always listen to you. But I was also calling about
the DCF issue.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, what do you got?

Speaker 14 (54:27):
Because I grew up in Hartford.

Speaker 15 (54:29):
My whole problem, even when I was you know, ten, twelve,
thirteen years old, is the DCYF DCF people they call
DCF now it used to.

Speaker 14 (54:39):
Be dc wyff.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (54:41):
Yeah, they work from nine to five and they can't
wait to get out of the city to rush home
to their suburbs because they're scared to death to be there.
I know people that work there and they were scared
to death to be there. But they need to be
going to these homes where they're getting welfare, subsidies whatever
you know in these cases, every single home between six

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and nine o'clock at night, and see what's really going
on in those homes. One hundred really checking on these
children because these people know they're leaving at five o'clock.
And Lord have mercy, I've seen what happens after they
leave at five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
They've got listen to this.

Speaker 6 (55:20):
They live there, Lynn, they have literal blood that is
on the on every person's hand in that place. Who
have been neglectful of the children, from falling out of buildings,
to beating deaths to everything they know damn well, and
it is so and again to go over these numbers.

(55:41):
This is again, this was their stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
The fact that they are dealing with children in neglectful
situations and their focuses on racial equity could not put
more kids.

Speaker 14 (55:52):
In danger exactly.

Speaker 15 (55:54):
And like I said, their boyfriends work all day, they
come home between six and nine o'clock at night with
whatever baby's mama they got out of what three or
four or whatever. But they're there. You're paying for everything.
But their boyfriends are working all day coming home, and
the people in Connecticut are paying their rent, lights, groscries,

(56:15):
all this other kind of stuff. Wake up.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. Thank you, Lynn. I appreciate you.

Speaker 14 (56:21):
Okay, you got it.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Temmy, what's going on?

Speaker 14 (56:24):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Temmy?

Speaker 14 (56:27):
You there, let's start.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Oh that's you, buddy.

Speaker 14 (56:31):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
You can?

Speaker 14 (56:33):
Can you turn the heat or if you leave the
heater around?

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Tom? Who are you talking to me?

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Else?

Speaker 14 (56:41):
Sorry? I was talking about my Candon. Not only is
Epstein an evil person. I heard yesterday you know his
island is terrible, but I heard yesterday that a scientist
says Epstein's bar may be responsible for lupus.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
His bar No, like, what do you mean? Like his bar?
Like like a like bar and grill like a tavern
kind of deal.

Speaker 14 (57:14):
No, Epstein's bar, it's a joke. Oh have you ever
heard of Epstein's bar? No, it's it's a mutation in people.
Oh they said yesterday, could be be responsible for my people.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I apologize that joke is lost on me, and I
feel horrible and I stepped all over it.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I lain all day to drop that out.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Sorry about it.

Speaker 14 (57:42):
That's all right. I will with this. Everyone's saying, oh,
Trump was friends with Epstein. He was like a casual acquaintance.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
It was friends with everybody.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
I mean, I'm just saying that Trump was a friend
of his gives the impression that no one was but Trump.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
It's like, if you ever want to get listened, here's
an interesting part, Tom, and this is when I say
to people who keep making it about Trump, if you
ever want to see Trump, take the suck the oxygen
out out of a room. Jeffrey Epstein is a perfect example.
Why because we've known about Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton
for eons.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
But now when it's politically expedient to hang his hat.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
On Donald Trump, everyone's acting like Jeffrey Epstein had no
other friends in Hollywood or in politics. Ever, it ignores
the fact that Epstein loved Clinton so much that he
had a painting, a painting of him in a blue
dress in his house.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
That I'm sure Clinton saw and did not object to.

Speaker 14 (58:45):
So that's what it drives me so crazy. I gotta
get over it. But I wish for once a liberal media,
would you know, would kind of bring up those kind
of points. As far as I know, he's never been
to the island, right.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
No, there were some flights, but they were always to
either mar Lago or to New York. And there's nothing
that suggested he's ever landed on that island at all.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, and everybody knows that.

Speaker 14 (59:14):
But the look, well, no, because the liberal media always say,
you know, he's been to his location, they vaguely reference.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
They don't say, Tom, I'll go this far because I
got I gotta go, I'll go this far. Remember what
the headline was yesterday, Trump knows about the girls. That
sentence alone was the headline yesterday, and that was and.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
That was made to you can to dream up anything
you want based on that line. It was ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
I'm hoping that it's over with and we could just
move on. Thank you, boss, I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Man. Let's take a break. We'll be back. More news,
more views coming up.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
At four five, we got Chris Powell from Chris Powell
Column dot Com and we'll take your phone calls as well.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
It's Reesa on the radio.

Speaker 16 (59:55):
Hi, this is Robert H.

Speaker 14 (59:57):
Steele, one of the sons of w T I C.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Bob Steele.

Speaker 15 (01:00:01):
We're seeing WTIC a very happy anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Absolutely appropriate.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Anyway, I actually saw the I didn't realize it before.
Is that recent Bob Steele way. I just saw that
in the in Hartford a couple of weeks ago. Bob
Steele's street. He has a street named after him downtown. Yeah,
I just saw it recently and I was just like, oh,
that's nice. And I didn't I don't even know when
it was there. Somebody will tell me. Anyway, Dovetailing in

(01:00:32):
the conversation earlier about DCF, there was something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Interesting that I found in the news today. So imagine
we have the Waterbury case, but the mom who's had
the son step son locked up for twenty years, and
then we have Mimi Torres. And even before those cases,
we also had like close to three thousand parents show

(01:00:57):
up railing against any efforts to enter in homeschooling in
the state of Connecticut. And with that, many parents in
the homeschooling space felt threatened because they had had enough
with school curriculums or whatever was going on, and they

(01:01:17):
had decided that they were going to take matage in
their own hands and teach their kids. And that makes sense,
as it should.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
And then these two cases, Waterbury and Farmington, those happened,
and Newsweek puts this article out. And the only reason
why I'm reading it is because I got to be
on Newsweek's the national publication online. But they make mention
of Connecticut in this article, and I think the article

(01:01:51):
is saying what we all know. I thought we were
sticking a fork homeschooling. I thought we were demonizing homeschooling
so effectively people would stop doing it. But no, Newsweek
writes an article that says this why homeschooling is still

(01:02:15):
on the rise, no matter what their efforts, because that's
the new tactic. Now demonize the opposition. You don't want
the state to run the education of your children. The
only way that we can stop this is if we

(01:02:37):
go after you. We call you a bunch of mega kooks.
Conservative Christians, what's the new one? A Christian nationalist? That's
another favorite one of mine. So and said that to me,
actually said, yo, a Christian nationalist. I'm like, dude, that
doesn't exist. That's not a thing. That's a made up
media thing. Like if you ever want to tell me

(01:02:58):
that you watch too much MSNBC, is when you start
repeating the made up phrases that they use like it's
a tell. That's how I know that your thoughts aren't original.
You keep forgetting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You've, you've, you've, you've considered yourself so smart by saying, oh,
that rings guy, he just watches Fox News all day. No,
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
I watch MSNBC, CNN, and what's the other one news nation?
I watch ABC, CBS and NBC. I watch all the
liberal news, all of them, and I pay attention to
what they report and why they're reported, and if they're
reporting the same thing, I actually videotape what they're reporting

(01:03:48):
and the words that they use to find out who
is the person who gave them their marching.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Orders, because it's all pr Those folks do not give
you the news recited, and then you do the same thing.
So when you use the made up phrases like Christian
national you've already exposed yourself. You're not original. You're a puppet.

(01:04:13):
Just so you know, why is homeschooling still on the rise.
It's simple.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
You haven't made a case yet for putting the kids
back in public school. It is attracting more and more families.
Homeschooling is it is, no matter what. Here's some of
the background focusing on US families with examples like Connecticut

(01:04:44):
new Town near Sandy Hook. Of all places, New Fairfield
homeschooling is involved from niche back in twenty nineteen to
a viable alternative accelerated by the COVID nineteen crisis. There's
a broader education landscape. According to most families, public schools
face scrutiny over safety, curriculum, rigidity, culture wars. Now they

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try to say that it was based on Republican led
restrictions and race and sexuality topics. But guess what, that's
not the only thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
It is so far going out.

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
Of the scope of just being Christian or Catholics or conservatives.
Now other families are getting their kids to hell out
of Dodge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Because they want their kids to have a chance. But
here's the interesting part about this data.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
Homeschooling rose from two point eight percent of school age
children from twenty nineteen. In twenty nineteen to five point
eight two percent in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three,
and five point nine two in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four, nearly doubling pre pandemic rates. The pandemic

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sparked the fever pitch surge, but retention is high as
families adapt, They say eighty three percent site school environment.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Safety.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
The school environment comes out at eighty three percent. Safety
is seventy two percent, academic dissatisfaction at fifty percent. Religious
instruction are some of the other things and include They
also contrude non traditional approaches and values misalignment. Even though

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the outcomes are mixed. I want you to think about this.
From nineteen ninety nine to twenty ten, it shows that
twenty three percent lower attendance rates versus public school peers.
Socializations addressed via co ops and programs so kids don't
have a problem socializing with other kids.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Here are some of the motivators. Core drivers are safety.
Like I said Sandy Hook, violence at Sandy Hook played
a role in Connecticut.

Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
Customization for gifted kids because remember they got rid of
those programs. In a lot of these schools, families use
co ops, online tutorials, and hybrid models, single working parents
succeed with community support in a lot of these programs.

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They do say that fifty percent of the kids who
graduate go to college. I'd say that's comparable, if not
better than the public school model without a doubt. But
the article is an essence supposed to trash homeschooling because

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they can't believe that it's actually growing in numbers. Many
people believe that public schools were actually getting a good rap,
but they're not. And when you have the scandals of
like Waterbury, you have the scandal of me, me, and
you have those people constantly putting out over and over again.
Is homeschooling being used for people to abuse their children's

(01:08:23):
homeschooling bad? Do we need more oversight for homeschooling? Connecticut
has no real oversight on homeschooling.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
And then the news.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
Newsweek article comes out and says, why is it still successful?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Why is it still growing? Education is continuing to fail?
How do you not see that? Do you see?

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
I mean, folks, I don't know how what you go
online for. I don't know what is your algorithm? You know
it shows you when you go online. But just watch
one of these videos when the kids are out talking
to their peers, asking them questions about what country is
Hawaii in, who won the Civil War?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
And you have kids say Spain. I mean, I'm serious.
Go watch some of these videos and you ask yourself, boy,
I don't even know if those kids could have survived homeschooling,
if that would have saved them.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Many of you are saying, I don't think their parents
schooling them would have helped. You're probably right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I'd die. I digress. You're probably right. Their only salvation
may be public school. They were screwed from the start.
What am I talking about. I've seen their parents too,
I have. I would never allow those I mean, if

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some of these kids' parents actually did homeschool, I would
absolutely champion Connecticut getting restrictions on homeschooling.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
If those people thought they were qualified, I could teach
my babies. I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no,
I would help Lamont intervene. Now, well no, no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Got your back. Lamont sounds now I got you, Aaron says,
we that is my wife homeschooled all three of our kids.
Best thing we ever did. Connecticut is one of the
best states to homeschool in. Well, you know, what's.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
Interesting about that, Eron, I think that Connecticut may be
the most needed for homeschooling because it's gotten so ridiculous
as a state, if you get my meaning, when it
comes to teaching children, what other choice do you have
when you have these guys like Bob Duff talking about yeah,

(01:10:55):
pornography and the kids. Yeah, absolutely all for it. When
you have that happening, how do you not? Aaron also says,
do it. You get to spend time with them, and
you get to go to all the good museums and
other jactions third.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
School hours when nobody's there, there are berks. I actually
like that. That's a pretty good idea, makes sense.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Yeah, but that's the whole thing Newsweek is trying to ask, how, like,
how's homeschooling surviving?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Haven't we bashed it enough? Haven't we demonized it enough? Nope?

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
Nope, not when it comes to people's children, not at all.
You know what, hold on, let me see if I
can do this real quick. Let's go here, No, sorry,
wrong place, that was my bad. Hold on, Laura, do
me a favor.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Can you hold on until the next break?

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
Yes, sir, okay, hold on for me. Did you want
to chime in about homeschooling.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Yes, sir, you got it. Hold on, I'm going to
put you on hold here real quick. Uh. That's it
right there, and we'll come back with Laura in the
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Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
See. All right, we are back.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Let's get to Laura on the line about homeschooling.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
How are you, Laura him?

Speaker 17 (01:12:13):
Well, I just came to give a kudos to homeschooling.
I homeschooled my children. How many I have six children?

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Holy moly, you have a classroom?

Speaker 17 (01:12:26):
Yes, I think so. Anyway, I homeschooled all of my
children from beginning to end, okay, and they all launched
very successfully. I had four college graduates, wow. And I
have two who are serving in the US military right now.
So it was a very good plan for my kids

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and my family.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
Can I ask when one what year did you begin
homeschooling on the oldest child?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
And uh like what year? What like? What year did
that begin? And and tell me why you chose it.

Speaker 17 (01:13:02):
We started homeschooling in nineteen ninety six. It was still
kind of like weird, and I homeschooled because I wanted
to shape the life of my children. I wanted to
shape their character and their ability to you know, love life,
enjoy life, love their family, develop good Christian values. And

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if I just felt that if you send them off
to public school for hours and hours, you know, the
days at public school have gotten longer and longer. Someone
else was shaping their values. And there's a lot of
deep programming that you got to do. And then and then,
as I had more children at schooling at the same time,

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it became more of a cooperative effort, and you know,
I was learning great things right alongside of them, and
we were flexing all the time time to what was fun,
what was you know, enjoyable to learn? I really wanted
my kids to learn, love learning right, and so we

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loved to learn.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
So you're talking nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
And it's interesting you said that when it was weird,
because I remember the first time I'd ever met anyone
who who had been home schooled and schooled, and it
was like in the early two thousands, and the first
thing that ran through my mind was how did you
learn to socialize? And this was a single child and
I was like, how did you learn to socialize with
other kids?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
And it was like, not socialized. It's like I'm talking to you.
I'm like, yeah, well I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 17 (01:14:36):
But well, what my kids were involved in other activities, right,
And they also were socialized by me. I taught them
how to interact with other people.

Speaker 15 (01:14:47):
They were they were.

Speaker 17 (01:14:48):
Kind, and they were courteous and respectful and engaging. They
were contributors to the environments that they were in. So
that was taught by our family value.

Speaker 7 (01:15:00):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
That's it's so interesting because I will tell you, so,
I had my first child ever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
It was my only child.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
All the rest of my children and step children, but
I have my only son, my only child ever in
nineteen ninety two, and I will admit, if I would
have been in his life, or if I would have
been with his mother for most of his life, I
would have been a whole homeschooler. And I'll tell you why,
because I had my son, or my wife had it
my son, but I had him when the term helicopter

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dad or helicopter mom first began, and I fit that
description to a t from the sixth he.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Was when he first got home from the hospital. I
slept on the floor by his bassinette with a with
a pocket mirror, and I would put it under his
nose every half hour just to make sure he were alive.
And I never changed ever since. So I would have
been perfect for home schooling because I get it sort
of like, you want to shape the life in the
future of that child, and you may not get that

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or a chance to unindoctrinate them in the school system.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Right right, It.

Speaker 17 (01:16:08):
Is a great way to build a great family because
you're all working at growing together, and you know, versus
on the public school system, everyone, every child is segregated,
every child is told they are the most important. And
so I also did activities that we could all do together,

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they could do together, so that I wasn't driving all
over the place with them. My husband worked a lot
of hours and work shift work, so it was really
me on deck most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Well it's look.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Look, I just want to say to you, Lord, thank
you so much for calling into and sharing your experience
with me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Please call back because I'm sure we're going to talk
about this much more in the future and i want
your perspective.

Speaker 17 (01:16:51):
Okay, thank you for lewing me share.

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And by the way, I got the name of the
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on the phone is none other than the incomparable Chris Powell.
How are you, sir?

Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
I'm very good to be with you man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Always a pleasure to have you here.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
You are always my go to because I love your
writing and I love the stuff that you write about.
And this particular article, and I thought I had it
in front of me. I didn't you did this story
about the homeless population being put into some of this
so called affordable housing, and you brought in a contrast

(01:19:33):
of Hurst reporting that was talking about many of the
people who are homeless versus those who should be in
this affordable housing that the governor and others in the
Democrat party are fighting for. But what makes this so
interesting in your report, as you lay out, is some
of the people they wished to be helping would in

(01:19:54):
essence be ineligible for all of this housing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Lay this out for everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:20:00):
Well, I'm afraid that the housing legislation that the legislature
approved yesterday is not going to produce much housing. That
tinkers with zoning requirements, it teaches it, you know, takers
of parking requirements. It leaves the responsibility for increasing housing
construction Connecticut very diffuse, divided among towns and the state

(01:20:24):
and developers and zoning boards. I mean, I'll be very
surprised if this legislation produces even even a thousand housing
units in the first year it's enactment. And housing is
housing supply is it is it urgent problem in Connecticut,
But we we have a far more urgent problem that

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the hearst papers reporting the other day showed us. So
it's the it's the problem of the homeless, the Hearst story,
and they interviewed a score more of homeless people around
the state. They had twenty reporters and photographers working on this.
This is a huge heroic project. But we've got at

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least eight hundred people in the state who are sleeping
outside on any particular night. We've got three thousand people
living in shelters on any particular night. We've got uncounted
people who are bouncing around between their cars and friends couches,
and you know, just pentting under overpasses and things like that.

(01:21:31):
Social workers say one hundred and thirty two homeless people
have died in Connecticut this year, and I'm sure they're
having to live outside or homeless contributed to the decline
and their health. This is a problem even more urgent
than our need for affordable housing, and we're not really

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doing anything about it. The Hearst report said that often
the state's emergency housing line doesn't even pick up, and
even when it does pick up, there's no shelter space,
there's no cots available to put people in. Now, this
is this is a solvable problem. I mean, you know,
during COVID, we briefly remade the Hertford Convention Center into

(01:22:17):
a big COVID ward stacked it with with cots who
were ready to put dozens and dozens of people there
in an emergency. I do not understand why we have
not responded to this homeless problem the same way. We
have enormous property in the state abandoned, you know, shopping

(01:22:40):
centers and office buildings that could be you know, converted
very simply into emergency barracks for for for homeless people.
And I don't understand why, you know, we're not We're
not doing this now. If you if you've read the
first story closely, I think you would realize that many

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of the homeless people in the state, people whoment on
the street, are mentally ill. Many have drug problems that
they're recovering from drug problems. You know, many are are
old and broken down. Many are slackers. I'm sure there's
just you know, not used to supporting themselves.

Speaker 6 (01:23:21):
Many people actually, And it's so funny because this is
sort of like the I guess the story that you're
not supposed to say out loud, but you said the
part about slackers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
There are some people who prefer to.

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
Be homeless and off the grid, making their money through panhandling.
It would not come off the street if given the opportunity.

Speaker 7 (01:23:43):
Yeah, well i'd still you know, risk classifying them is
mentally ill. And many of these people are just generally
incompetence in life. I mean, they belong in a supervised environment. Well,
you know, we should have more of these supervised environments.
I mean, we should have more of what is called
support of housing. You know, studio apartments that have social

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workers and a medical clinic in the building, and these
people get daily attention and they are we try to
bring them back into life. Now, a lot of these people,
I'm sure are just not going to be cured. We
may need more mental hospitals as well. But you know,
even so, you know, there's something in the Bible about
the least of these my brethren, and that is these people,

(01:24:31):
and we're just standing by not doing anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Yeah, that's kind of sad.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
We're on the phone with Chris Powell, the writer. You
can find out all of his columns at chrispowellcolumn dot com.
The thing about this article that I thought was interesting
about the homeless part, and you've already mentioned this is,
as you said, the sort of myriad of different problems
that many of these homeless people. And I guess according

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to the Hearst report, we're looking at probably at best
about three to five thousand homeless people all together.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Is that number looks?

Speaker 7 (01:25:04):
How do you want to count the people who are
in the shelters? Supposedly there's about three thousand people living
in shelters around the state every night, and that it's
not enough for the for the homeless population, because I
didn't mention there's a lot of people in Connecticut around
the verge of being evicted because they can't afford their
rents anyway exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
So when what do you think that the governor is
talking about or the legislature is talking about when they
mean affordable housing, are they talking about low income families?

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Are they talking about these groups?

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Like do they not know who they're talking about or
is that sort of like anonymous at this point.

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
They know they're they're talking about housing that can be
rented by, you know, people of typical average incomes, especially
people you know who are in lesser paid jobs. And
we have thousands of people in Connecticut who are in
what it's called the Alice category. I guess it's, you know,

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a limited income category where people are spending thirty or
fifty percent of their income on their rent. Inflation is
driven up rents, and there's a lot of people are
you know, really at the end of their.

Speaker 6 (01:26:16):
Rope explain something to me that I never seem to
get because no one ever talks about this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
So you have affordable housing, right.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
I always believe that Democrats in this case, and even
the governor for that matter, is looking at the goal,
but forgetting the journey. Because if these folks are paying
what's you know, let's say a limited income to stay
in these homes, the repair cost for these landlords or
these developers always goes up. How is it financially feasible

(01:26:49):
for these developers to have low income housing? Isn't this
sort of hustling backwards? You're bringing in people who cannot
and in no way ever see an increase in their
income so that you can one either raise the rent
as it applies to cola you know, cost a living
expense or whatever. You can never raise the rents on
these folks for any reason, no matter what happens being inflation,

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the cost of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Living, any of that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
They're always going to have to keep these at a
fixed income rate. So what happens when damages need to
be or things need to be fixed or repaired in
these units?

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Does the developer just lose money?

Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
Yeah? Well, Connecticut is certainly discouraging people from becoming landlords.
You know the new house and the bill that they
passed yesterday in the legislature. It has a vast expansion
of a rent control and it requires all towns with
fifteen thousand or more people to have you know, rent

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control boards or fair rent boards, and the towns of
lesser population are supposed to join and having you know,
regional fair rent panels. That's you know, that's that's rent control.
Would you you know, become a landlord in any town
with with the rent control? That's not the solution. That's
that's a that's a hindrance to housing. Uh. What I

(01:28:12):
think we should do Greece is, UH have the state
get directly into the property acquisition uh business for for housing. Look,
we've got we've we've we've got enormous vacant and decrepit
property in our cities. Uh, all you have to do
is drive through or take the train through through Bridgeport

(01:28:33):
and you can see all these decrepit mill buildings. You
go to Waterbury, you go to Hartford, there's lots of them. Yeah,
they're they're vacant, They're they're decrepit. You've got a lot
of rundown tenements. The state could take these properties by
eminent domain, UH lease them to to developers, UH approve
their plans for multi family housing, and uh uh require

(01:28:57):
them to get the housing built by a certain time.
State would take the property back. I think that that
be a lot more productive than you know, expecting all
these suburban towns to argue hassle with developers over smaller,
smaller projects. And I don't think people would be upset
if the state was taking over these decrepit properties.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
I couldn't agree more. It would.

Speaker 6 (01:29:22):
It's beautification, if anything, right of some of our major cities.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
If there were Bridgeport in Hartford and things like that.
What do you think can this before you go? Because
I talked.

Speaker 6 (01:29:31):
About this if I think it was yesterday, and there's
this really really strong push by the legislature to get
this bill to these towns that have been pushing it back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
But tooth and nail, and people have called them nimbi's.

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
Or whatever that reason. I don't think they're nimbi's. I
think they're right to stop this. But why do you
think there's such an effort to get this kind of
low income housing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
In these areas?

Speaker 6 (01:29:57):
Is it to teach suburbanites a lesson that to teach
them humility? Is it in, you know, for them to
see what the other half lives like, or to give
them an opportunity to live in plush neighborhoods like these
folks have earned the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Right to do.

Speaker 7 (01:30:13):
I'm sure there's some punitive attitude to it. But in fairness, look,
I've been around a lot of the time, and I've
seen towns that just have outlawed multi family housing. Right.
I think we need all sorts of integration in Connectic
We need racial integration, we need economic class integration, and

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that requires a variety of housing and a variety of towns.

Speaker 6 (01:30:40):
However, well hold on, Chris, but for what reason do
we need those things?

Speaker 7 (01:30:44):
We need those things for societal cohesion. I mean, I
think we need, you know, the races to get along
and appreciate each other. We need the ethnic groups to
get along. We need the economic groups together.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
I don't think that works, Chris. I don't think that
works by forcing them to live with one another. I
don't think that.

Speaker 7 (01:31:02):
It's not forcing, but you know, giving people an opportunity,
you know, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Hey, that's how I moved to the suburbs.

Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
How I moved to the suburbs was I got a
good job. I got a good paying job, and I
moved to the suburbs. No one ever stopped me.

Speaker 7 (01:31:15):
No, And you know a lot of us moved to
the suburbs because we wanted to get away from the underclass,
which is you know, anti social in toll of crime,
and it runs the schools down. And that I think
is a far greater reason, Yes, why people are suspicious
of so called affordable housing, right than racism or anything else.
Is you know, we manufacture poverty in our cities in

(01:31:38):
a number of ways, welfare policy, education policy, and anybody
who wants to middle class wants to get away from it,
and they don't want the cities following them into the
into the suburbs.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
And no, they have a I mean, but with all
due respect, I mean, listen, and I even say that
for the kids who used to live in the inner
cities whose parents worked really hard, got good paying jobs
and moved to the suburbs. Look, I believe as a
society we must have that sort of you know, that difference, right,
we need to have this long I just had a

(01:32:08):
discussion with somebody in Buffalo when I was filling in there,
and the guy said, look, all of us need our
struggles to build character. I don't think that we should
eliminate people's struggles and just start putting them in affluent
neighborhoods because we need racial cohesion.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
That's nonsense to me.

Speaker 7 (01:32:22):
Well, yes, and that's welfare. And welfare is very demoralizing. Indeed,
you know, you find all these people, you know, single
women with five or six kids, no job skills, no husbands,
and they're expecting to live off the state you know,
food stamps, rett subsidies, you know, medicaid, who gave them
the idea that you know, you're not supposed to support

(01:32:43):
your own kids. Exactly, Welfare is demoralized.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
And that's the.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
Whole reason why I'm saying that with all of that,
and with the people who are Ino's position, I don't
want to reward them with nice neighborhoods. With all due respect,
I'm just saying we've already given them all the tax
dollars in the world. Now we're going to give them
nice neighborhoods to do and haven't earned it. One of
the biggest problems we have in our society is there
isn't enough sweat equity in our country and even in

(01:33:07):
this state, is that people who've moved to those communities.
As much as people try to say, oh, those.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
People you know were bought into or or uh what
I mean, were raised into that kind of wealth, that's
not true for a lot of families. A lot of
people earn their right to live in those peaceful communities
because they worked hard and bought a home and moved there.
I don't think that anybody should skip the line and
get there for free or.

Speaker 7 (01:33:30):
I respect them too, But we got to keep in
mind that inflation is just destroying the lower class in
the middle class in this country. We need to bring
down the cost of living, not everybody you know who
can't afford his apartment as a welfare slob.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
Fair and again I don't I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
I don't blanket any one of them, but I just
say I agree with the communities that say, look, man,
I've worked hard to move into this community, and just
because you you know, people want either cohesion or as
you put it, punitive, wish to put people in those
communities so that they can understand what the underclass is like.
I think that's a joke, and I think they only
harm themselves with their constituents when they do it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:10):
So I think we understand very well what the underclass
is like, and that's why we don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Yes, exactly, we don't need a refresher.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Who in Connecticut is going to elevate the underclass? Who
is going to examst I'm going.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
To nominate the underclass.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
I'm going to nominate the underclass to get the underclass
out of that position. And the reason why is because
I believe in self reliance. And maybe that's unfair, but
you know, you know, maybe people think that I should
be more more compassionate about that, but I am compassionate.
I'm compassionate in the sense of I think that we
can all do it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
But you know that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:43):
State government is giving poor people a lot of bad incentives.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Absolutely. Chris Powell of Chris Powellcolumn Dot com check them out.

Speaker 9 (01:34:54):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (01:34:55):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
You got it, you got it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
Let's get another check on whether or traffic our Christopher
is in a BPS traffic center.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
Hey, sir, stay locked in locked race on the radio
is on w T.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I see, I'm most almost compelled not to accept a
friend request from this individual. He appears to be a
Miami Dolphins fan. I'm just kidding, Jim, I gotcha. I
took care of it. I did. And anyway, so Chris

(01:35:32):
Pout was great. But you know, it was so interesting
that he said that we needed to help those in
need because of inflation in those inner cities. And I'm like, look,
those some people want to stay in the inner city.
Don't trust me what I tell you. Some of them

(01:35:53):
would not leave if given the opportunity. They love their hood.
It's presenting, you know the deal. Roland. Tell me I'm wrong,
Tell me I'm wrong. Some of these people are representing, representing.
They ain't coming out of the hood. Some people, some
people live and die by the hood, don't they.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Yeah, I don't think you're talking about them though. Like
gangs and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
No, no, not just gangs.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
There are some people who loved the authenticity of the hood.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
They believe that that's.

Speaker 6 (01:36:26):
You know, centric to who they are as individual. I
don't want to throw any race out there, but some
people are just from the hood would never leave.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
Oh yeah, I mean you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
It's like they would almost feel Can I tell you,
I'll tell you a story. I'll tell you a great story.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
I had a lot of fun growing up in the hood,
but I was happy to get up out of there.
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (01:36:49):
My ex wife Irish Irish Catholic, but she grew up
in the hood.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
She grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
She's hood girl, and I mean the hood like Queens.
She lived, you know, South Jamaica, Queens. And she loves
New York like New York and her hood.

Speaker 6 (01:37:08):
She loves it doing dreaming tom. I tried to take
her to nice places. I would take it a nice restaurants.
Remember I told you I went to that restaurant in
Tampa where I bought a porterhouse for two one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
And fifty dollars. Yeah, I took that. Was there with
my ex wife Mary, and I was there with her,
and you know what she told me, I felt she
felt uncomfortable. I went with her. You want to talk
about how uncomfortable this white Irish woman was. I took
her to what can only be described as the whitest
concert ever in Fairfax, Virginia. Who was performing the B

(01:37:42):
fifty twos. Are you familiar with them?

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
I am not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Okay, B fifty twos. You would know their song. It's
called the Love Shack. Oh yeah, yeah, fifty two. Okay.
By the way, Mick so okay, everybody does. McPherson big
crush on her.

Speaker 6 (01:37:56):
Anyway, we're there at that concert, Me six foot three,
black guy, see of white folks having the time of
my life, my white Irish ex wife standing in the back,
arms folded.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
And when we left, she said, don't make me do
that again. I'm like, what are you talking about? She goes,
I don't want to be around that many white people.
It's uncomfortable. I said, no, you're people. She goes, no,
they're not. I said, what if we went to a
rap concert? She goes, Now you're talking. She couldn't be
around them. So she's always been hood she was. I

(01:38:30):
was like, did I look weird out there to you?

Speaker 6 (01:38:32):
Like I'm six foot three towering over every person at
the concert. She goes, no, no, you fit in perfectly.
Like what she just she's just a hood well we
used to call them hood rats.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Yeah that she was. Couldn't do it. And I love
the B fifty two's, but not her, not at all.
Eric ba rock Kim all day. Let's get another checker,
whether a traffic what a guy who I know can
appreciate eight the BET fifty two's Mark Christophers at the
BPS Traffic Center.

Speaker 18 (01:39:03):
Yeah, I can do without love Shack. I've heard that
a few too many times.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Well, who has it? Rock hold on rock Lobster? Okay,
all right, that's definitely no. One of the greatest songs
out I don't care what it says you like, I
love rock Lobster.

Speaker 18 (01:39:17):
That is that is high intensity music. I mean, you've
got to be uh. That's about one hundred and seventy
five beats per minute, but.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
It's still fun. What does this thing?

Speaker 18 (01:39:28):
It's only ninety eight beats per minute, but it feels
like it's one hundred and seventy five beats pren It
feels like you're on the beach exactly, and you've had
you've been.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
A lot, and that's what it feels like. Totally.

Speaker 5 (01:39:40):
The NAACP calls him, WHOA, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
I'm read this. It's Reese on the radio. Let's just
say some people are.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Not fans News Talk to eighty w t I series.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
I want to thank Kevin.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Kevin, you were one hundred percent right, Mark Lee, Van
Camp and Robbins.

Speaker 13 (01:40:00):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:40:00):
They do use that term synchronized media. That is such
a great line. I love it when they when they
say that term. By the way, I say this often
and if I haven't said it lately, please whatever you do,
check out that show immediately after this one, Mark Leek,
Van Camp and Uh and Robins.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
It is a fun show. I wish I could do
their show.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
And I think they're out of San Antonio because that's
how I got hip to them in their show because
it's syndicated and it airs at different times in different.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
You know markets.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
It used to come on at eleven o'clock, so before
I had to be on here on my drive home
from U Haul, I would listen to them for about
a half an hour. And they are always fun. So
when I tell you check out their show, I mean it.
They are hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:40:53):
And they almost as similar to the kind of comedy
that I bring to these stories.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
They do as well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
But it's just three guys and it's it's a hoot.
I enjoy listening to them. You will too, So check
them out that right here on WT I see after
my show, And like I said, I wouldn't steer you wrong.
Let's read some of the comic friends. The cat, what's
going on, big guy? I appreciate you, Polly is and
dog food is ridiculously price average fifty bucks for a

(01:41:23):
twenty five pounds bag. Goodness, gracious, that's a lot of money.
That is a lot of money. I had a story
here that dovetails from my conversation with Chris Powell, and
I want to make sure that I have it here
because I've got so much paperwork here I ended up

(01:41:43):
I probably hold on, ah, there we go. I probably yes. Okay.
So it's this story here and this here though, that's
not it. That's not it. Yes, okay, So there's a
story here that is leading me to believe.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
That the housing crisis is a joke. This so called
affordable housing thing. I think it's a lie because, as
Chris Powell just said, there are a lot of housing
units that you could just Revam. You could spend the
money and just people could live there. But somebody sent
this to me, and I'm forgive me for forgetting who

(01:42:26):
it was. Oh, it was probably steveev who sent this
to me. And this is an article that says that
there's an upscale apartment complex near Yukon that is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Struggling to fill and no one's moving into.

Speaker 6 (01:42:45):
In the complex near Mansfield, Connecticut, near the University of Connecticut.
Despite Connecticut's ongoing ongoing housing affordability crisis, the projects fifty
two affordable and workforce housing units remain over eighty five
percent vacant just months after opening this year in August.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Why can't they fill them? And no one seems to
understand why. So I want to talk about that a little.

Speaker 6 (01:43:16):
Bit before we move on to some other news and
views for the program. But we got to get to
your phone calls. Jo Is called it from Canton. Welcome back, Joe,
How are you?

Speaker 14 (01:43:27):
How are you read?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
I'm great, man, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
I like the conversation that you had with Chris Pal.
I think it was pretty informative and I think I
hit both sides.

Speaker 7 (01:43:39):
What did I want to call it?

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
I know I'm a little late to the subject.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
That's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
I had had the privilege of talk of listening to
the radio like an hour or two ago during work
and uh what Epstein had came up?

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
And I guess my question would be is why is
the current administration protecting Bill Clinton and Obama like or
the people that are Why can't we get those names?

Speaker 6 (01:44:03):
You know what, I'll tell you that Epstein is nothing
more than a political football and a wedge issue in Washington.
And when you have a news media that needs to
sort of be a thorn in the side of this
administration that it doesn't like and actually wants to trip

(01:44:25):
it up, they can selectively go after the story in
the way that they do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
And they have a fawning and very very needy audience
who wants to use those talking points in arguments with
people that they are opposed to. So if they hate
Trump and they have people who support Trump, this is
now an argument they can use to rattle those people.
See this story says that Donald Trump knew about the women,

(01:44:51):
which would then ask the question, yes, what does that mean? Right,
so Bill Clinton knew about the girl? What does that mean?

Speaker 6 (01:44:58):
Like, No one wants to ask that question, and they
only want political points, so and it isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
But and you know what the other argument is. I'll
tell you what the other argument is.

Speaker 6 (01:45:06):
And this was said on CNN on Abby Phillips Show,
Not Abby Yeah, Abby Phillips Show. The argument was when
someone brought up Bill Clinton in the past, the first
thing that came out of their mouth was, well, Bill
Clinton is not the president anymore, which.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Again goes to the exact point.

Speaker 6 (01:45:21):
Why are they not, you know, valuable in this sort
of uh information gathering is because there is no political
end to use against Bill Clinton or Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Okay, well, do you believe that the whole thing, the
hoax is there was there really a pedophile sex trafficking ring.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Let me tell you what I'm finding out.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
And in fact, I've even listened to the journalist, the
guy who's been covering.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
This story extensively.

Speaker 6 (01:45:50):
But no one will give time to why because it
completely dispels the narrative according to the witnesses who are
outside of the capital. Remember they were giving that big
press conference with all the women who were there who
said they were victims. Okay, so if you listen to
the lawyer there and I'll even grab the audio sound
by it if I can find, and I'm sure I do.

(01:46:12):
Outside he said something that was absolutely interesting, and as
a lawyer, you know, it's his job to say things
accurately or else face what's called liability.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Right, yeah, repercussion. So here's what he said.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
He said that these women at a certain point were
then farmed out to other people. Now everybody heard that
and said what did he mean by?

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
At some point? Nobody disputed it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:46):
So here's what we found out, and I believe this
to be true because I've gone over it extensively. Was
there trafficking in women from Epstein?

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Yes? But were they underage? According to this report?

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
No, why because they believed that when Epstein had no
use for them quote unquote underage, he was then farming
them out when they.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Were of age to other individuals, that is according to
the reporting. But no woman there in essence, when you
ask them, they says, was this person engaged in some
criminal activity when you were under age? No woman would
come on the record and say yes.

Speaker 6 (01:47:27):
They never suggested, And when asked a thousand times, one
of the young ladies, the black woman, was asked, we're
gonna come up with a list of ours on our own.
They were like, well, okay, you're gonna come up with
a list of your own and what And they were like,
and we're gonna keep it to ourselves. We're like, wait
a minute, why would you keep that to yourselves? If
there was criminality, you would make that list public so
that the prosecutors DJ for that matter could go after them.

(01:47:50):
But there was a reason why, and it was selectively
chosen to use that language.

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
Okay, I mean I guess that they weren't underage, it's
sex traffics.

Speaker 6 (01:48:02):
Oh that's again I agree with you, because that's what
I said. You You have all of these people who
are saying that they were trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein to
all of these powerful people, and in my view, regardless
of whether or not they were under age or of age,
if they were trafficked and forced to do that, the
crime was committed.

Speaker 7 (01:48:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:48:21):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
So I guess I guess why why I bring it up?
Not for like a political point to win in a
in a debate.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
No, No, totally understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
That's more so, like you know, Caspitel had had a
podcast before getting into the FBI. Yeah, and a lot
of this stuff was about releasing the Epstein files. Yeah,
and now now we're saying that it's a hoax and
that there's specific reasons why we can't release it. I
think even like when I was listening to Eric Erickson,
he feel I feel like he flipped the switch when
he was bringing it up.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
I'm to be honest with you. I'm with you on
this one gel for this reason and this reason alone.

Speaker 6 (01:48:56):
Right, Okay, release the Epstein files. But then I've gotta
ask this question. Right, let's say the Epstein files have
a list of names on it. My question to you
is this, what do you believe the Epstein files? And
I'm gonna phrase this the right way because I've got

(01:49:17):
I'm gonna screw it up if I don't, So let.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Me ask you this.

Speaker 6 (01:49:19):
Do you believe that the Epstein files in question have
a list of names of individuals and what crimes they committed?

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
I want to say it's more so a list we
could say we can use like the bombshow of emails?
For example, there are emails with other other accomplices in
this act.

Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
Right, but the.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
Emails should suggest wrongdoing? Hold on, should the emails suggest wrongdoing?
Or should we suggest wrongdoing because there were email exchanges.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
I suspect wrongdoing because of the email exchanges.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Okay, so in that sense, the details of said exchanges, right, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:49:59):
I mean I would I use them as pieces of evidence, correct, Right.

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
So if you know that the Epstein files are going
to have a list of people that Epstein was because
many people when you ask them, what do you mean
the Epstein list, everybody says, well, the list of people
that were engaged in criminal activity. I'm like, so you
think that Epstein made a list of people that said
John Doe had sex.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
With Jane Doe? Is that what you think that the
list entails? And they go, yes, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
I perform this list. It's not a list curated specifically
by Epstein or maybe his accomplices. Right, But I mean,
I feel like we've been investigating this for a while.
Is this hasn't been released, right, And.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:50:43):
But see, what I think is is that the reason
why the list hasn't been if you know that people
are leaking, like this email thing that came out yesterday,
Donald Trump knew about the girls. It's now being suggested
in the news media that Donald Trump has done something
untoward right, because he knew about the girls, which now

(01:51:03):
means Donald Trump engaged with in criminal activity. If you
know that and you're gonna put out a list, that
means if a name pops up, that turns out to
be a big name all of a sudden, because that
person's on the list, that guy engaged in criminal activity
and you smeared him without any evidence of it, just
because his name is there.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
I mean, if your name is associated with Epstein, that's
a big that's a big red flag that is Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
So in that case, Bill Clinton right now should be arrested.

Speaker 16 (01:51:35):
Yes, No, I totally agree Obama.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
If his name isn't there, get him like.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Only because his name's on it.

Speaker 6 (01:51:42):
Wait wait, wait, but should his name be mcg hold on,
should his name be on the list or should his
name be on a list listing the things that he's done?

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
His name on the list of enough?

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
I think yeah, yes, I think his name shouldn't be
on the list if you want, okay, because if my
name were on the Epstein list, right, would you suspect
that I was not doing something this year?

Speaker 9 (01:52:12):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:52:12):
No, no, no, my suspect listen, my suspicion of you
doing something should be should not be tantamount to you
being hauled off by the DOJ.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
That's all it is.

Speaker 11 (01:52:23):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 14 (01:52:25):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
What I'm saying to you is is that what you're
suggesting here is, if you really think about it, GEO,
what you're suggesting here is if your name is associated
with Jeffrey Epstein, by just association alone, you are associated
with criminal activity, and therefore you should be hauled in
by the DOJ. What I'm saying to you is is
that no one has been able to define the Epstein

(01:52:47):
list with any specificity. What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (01:52:51):
Epstein list a list of what, a list of bribes,
a list of Nobody knows that they just called it
the Epstein list because it's meant to be generalized so
that you can make.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
I means, I mean, you can say that the Abstine
list can include the uh, the bribery amounts that were
used to correct.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
But you see how you're inventing it as you go along.
Do you understand that that's what you're doing right now?

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
Though I used your term, you said the Xtine list
was like a blanket term that people just throw around, right,
But in reality, it holds truth to it, right, because
the Epstein list could refer to the bribery.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Like you had said, never use the word now. You
should know better than that, GEO. Never use the word
truth in absence of you don't know what the truth is.
You just know that there's an alleged list.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
We have we have evidence, though we have we don't
have evidence. This whole thing a hoax.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
No, no, no, we don't have evidence of who is implicated,
and we don't have evidence of them committing any crimes.
All we know is that there's a list. Well, tell
me how there is prove me otherwise I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
I mean, I was using Pam Bondi's words.

Speaker 14 (01:53:56):
I was easing.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
Oh no, I'm so upset about that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:59):
Pam Bondi says, she's saying there are hundreds of videotapes.
But you never ever once heard her say actor so
and so or actress so and so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
You never heard her say that. She just said there
were hundreds of videos. They could all just beat Epstein
and Glaine Black Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
Well, she also had the list waiting on her desk or.

Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
On her again, to her words, I stand by everything
that that woman said, but everything outside of that is speculation.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
And again this is no defense of Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 6 (01:54:26):
It's just the defense of what people are suggesting is
in something having no evidence thereof.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
And I think that people are going to find themselves
with egg in their face.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
So do you think that when people bring up the
Epstein hoax it's more more so for political points in
a debate or.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Yeah, I don't you know. Anybody who calls it a
hoax is calling it that to because they don't know
how to answer it. I mean they if they had
any brains, they would be able to have a discussion
like I just did with you about it. Because I'm
not saying Jeffrey Epstein is innocent, and I'm not saying
that well, first of all, we all know the Gypsey
Epstein is given is guilty. But I'm not suggesting anybody

(01:55:04):
else is.

Speaker 6 (01:55:05):
Innocent or guilty because I don't know who's on the list,
and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
What that list is supposed to pertain. But I gotta
go to a break. I appreciate you, big guy, thank
you so much. You got it, You got it. Let's
take another break. Let's get to the weather in traffic.
Mark Christopher he's in the BPS traffic center. The hour

(01:55:41):
that backs out.

Speaker 5 (01:55:43):
Punch Punch, It's Reese on the radio on wt I
see News Talk ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
All right, we're back.

Speaker 6 (01:55:51):
I just want to say this before to Hollywood News. Everybody, Seriously,
you should have listened to me. I warned you you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Want to listen.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
Fine, waiting until after we do Hollywood News we get
into weather in traffic. I'm gonna show you exactly why
I keep telling people stop talking. You don't know what
you're talking about. You don't, And I'll break that down
in a second. We gotta do a Hollywood News. It's
Hollywood News with your correspondent. He's on a radio.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
All the glitz and all the glamor. It's Hollywood News.
But now, normally I would be talking about movies and
all that other stuff about this, but I'm not. This time.
I have to talk about apparently some sort of Hollywood
rift between two individuals, one Sydney Sweeney, the other Zendia.

Speaker 6 (01:56:46):
Now apparently Zendia has come out and said because Sidney
Sweeney did her little American jeens ad that she can't
stand next to her at photo ops and things like that,
and so now there's created a rift between the Zendia
crowd and the Sydney Swing any crowd. Look, with all
due respect, I know people think this and Die is
some sort of beautiful flower, beautiful you know, individual, But folks,

(01:57:08):
let's be honest. Okay, this is Penelope pitstop versus olive oil. Okay,
I've chilled chosen my side, and yes every time, I'm
going with the white, blonde woman just because I can. Okay,
the skinny girl with the body of a boy, never

(01:57:29):
gonna happen. Okay, never gonna happen. But you pick your sides,
you pick your side, you'll be fine. I'm just gonna
stick with the blonde, beautiful woman. That's okay, all right,
all right, that's fine. That's Hollywood nudess for today. When
we come back, I already told you what the definition
of Epstein list is, and you guys are in the

(01:57:49):
chat room trying to explain.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
To me what it is. You don't know what the
Epstein list is, but I'll explain it to you in
a heartbeat. It's not a real thing. That's the whole
I'll break it down. We'll be back. Mark Christopher, he's
in the BPS traffic center. He's getting your home.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Hey, Mark, it's on the radiot.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
I see, Hey, we are back and look. I tried
to explain this thing to you, but you know, in
all of your arrogance and smart alegy.

Speaker 6 (01:58:23):
Sort of responses, I knew you didn't know what you
were talking about. That was the reason why I addressed uh, what's.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
His name, Geo the way that I did. And again,
it is a desire for things to be in it
that you want it to be. There is no such
thing as the Epstein list in the fashion in which
Geo was trying to describe it, never has been. So

(01:58:51):
I did again real quick. It's just as simple. It's
not even a Google search. It's just a search. All
you have to do is now I'm gonna break it
down for you. Oh you understand. We can get off this.

Speaker 6 (01:59:02):
The Epstein List, often called the Epstein client list, is
a term popularized in the media and online discussions to
describe a rumored, hypothesized document purportedly containing the names of
high profile individuals who were clients of Jeffrey Epstein, specifically

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those of whom he alleged trafficked in underage girls for
sexual purposes. Potentially a part of a blackmail scheme. However,
this list does not exist as real or a real
official document. A July twenty twenty five memo from the
US Department of Justice, the DOJ explicitly stated that there

(01:59:48):
was no client list and is found a list that
was found having reviewed Epstein's related files, and there's no
credible evidence of Epstein blackmailing prominent INDU visuals on the
grounds of investigating uncharged third parties. Instead, the term is
frequently conflated with actual publicly released materials from Epstein's cases,

(02:00:13):
which include unsealed court documents, flight logs, contact books, eg.
In other words, Epstein's Black Book, which was seized in
two thousand and five, which are essentially phone directories with
hundreds of entries ranging from high profile figures to everyday

(02:00:34):
contact like service providers. These have been partially released in
redacted form but contain no trafficking details. So the names
that you would get, you would then surmise, because their
names are on it, they immediately participated in crimes that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
You would then make up for them. That's what I
was trying to explain to GEO. Okay, this is not
giving Epstein a pass. This is telling you exactly where
the term comes from.

Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Recent twenty twenty five releases, such as over thirty three
thousands of pages of DJ records and emails from epstein
Estate provided the House Oversight Committee in September of twenty
twenty five. This was Yesterday, which reference figures like Trump, Clinton,
Elon Musk, and others passing Epstein's emailing about Trump's interactions
with an alleged victim.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
These documents focus.

Speaker 6 (02:01:29):
On Epstein's network and finances, but reveal no verified client
list or new criminal charges against third parties.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
In short, it is not a list of people who
have committed crimes. Okay, not a list. Never has been
a list. You all know this, so does the news media.

Speaker 6 (02:01:55):
They've always known this, but it is nice to get
people all ginned up about it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Listen, release the list. Release the list for what reason
other than you to see a name in there.

Speaker 6 (02:02:10):
Oh there's a person I don't like, Yeah, he committed crimes.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
What about the people you do like? Well, maybe he's
just friends with him. That's all.

Speaker 6 (02:02:20):
That's exactly what you're gonna use it for, because it's
exactly what the media used it for.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
That's always been the case.

Speaker 6 (02:02:29):
And again, why I'll go one step further because I
played it earlier and obviously a lot of you are late.
The guy who they are referencing in yesterday's emails, Michael
what's his name?

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
Goodwin? Now, Michael Wolfe, I apologize. He was on the
Patrick bet David podcast and he said this.

Speaker 13 (02:02:49):
At that point, Upstain's legal problems began. The police began
to investigate him over allegations that he was that there
were underage women coming to his house. Epstein believed that
it was Trump who first informed the police about what
was going on at Epstein's house, and from that point

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on they were nothing but bitter enemies.

Speaker 6 (02:03:16):
Now with that and the email that says Trump knew
about the girls, does it bring a different context now,
because again that line trump knew about the girls could
mean anything Trump knew about the girls and he didn't
have a problem with it, or Trump knew about the
girls and.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
He informed the FBI. Because the email just says Trump
knew about the girls, nothing else. There's nothing to spin here,
see the fact is that, And again accusing me of
spinning is exactly what you're doing. Spin it the other way,
then spin it the other way.

Speaker 6 (02:03:56):
And if you're so good at it, those of you
in the chat room who would think that I'm spinning,
spin it the other way. Tell me what the line
Trump knew about the girls? Tell me what it means,
and show me the evidence of it. Because I got
my evidence I displayed here. I come with receipts.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
You got none. Tell me what you got. Spin it
your way.

Speaker 4 (02:04:15):
Spin it.

Speaker 6 (02:04:16):
How the line Trump knew about the girls means that
he's implicated in wrongdoing. Tell me how Trump knew about
the girls means that Trump was engaged in sexual activity
with the victims in Epstein's case, Just lay it all out.
Other than that, just shut up, because you know you
can't just say. I am desirous for Trump to be

(02:04:40):
implicated in this because I hate him and I want
him to fail, and I want him to go down
in flames. I hope that he's involved. I want him
to be involved because I'm so sick and tired of
being president and I don't want to cry anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Just say that, that's all.

Speaker 6 (02:05:00):
We'll all do better. Well, and and again, I appreciate you.
I appreciate you, but I know you guys are grasping
this straws.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
It's desperate. You can't win anywhere else. So now you're
making up nonsense.

Speaker 6 (02:05:16):
Spin children, spin, what's oh wrong, person, Sean, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Sir?

Speaker 14 (02:05:25):
I love when you take the fastball is right down
the plate and you hit it out of the plane, try, dude, sir,
and then you and then you see then you go
around the basis like a like a old tana, you
flip the back. But when he hit it like four
hundred and sixty feet just really, what's amazing about the

(02:05:46):
ebscene thing? Is this amazing how he disappeared for forty
three days.

Speaker 4 (02:05:51):
Yes, right, he's gone.

Speaker 14 (02:05:53):
He didn't exist. There was nothing until we actually had
a solution and to the situation. Now we're gonna we're
gonna get up the new problem.

Speaker 6 (02:06:03):
And again, all this was was the fact that they
needed to distract from the fact that Democrats had to,
as they put it, cave, or.

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
At least the media did that. They caved that the
suffering could not last any longer.

Speaker 14 (02:06:16):
Right, and the damage to the Democratic Party did.

Speaker 11 (02:06:20):
To the nation.

Speaker 6 (02:06:22):
That's you're absolutely right, And I love the fact that
the piece that they put out only put them in
a bigger Jeopardy anyway, because as I reported earlier in
this in this story, is that Oh, by the way,
the people who are listening now, who are in my
chat room going nuts, they missed this part. They should

(02:06:43):
have joined the show earlier because I laid out how
Michael Wolf, this guy who.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
I just played, the guy who they showed the email.

Speaker 6 (02:06:52):
Michael Wolf again is in email exchanges.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
By the way, these people are too lazy to look
this up in email ext changes. He was trying to
guide Jeffrey as Epstein to use his relationship with Donald
Trump to curry favor with the news media that was
trying to hemorrhage or hurt Trump's campaign in twenty fifteen
and in twenty sixteen, and we have the emails to
prove it that it was saying Epstein, you want to

(02:07:17):
get in the good graces of the news media, help
them destroy Trump. And we have that on record.

Speaker 14 (02:07:25):
Well, you also have the girl who.

Speaker 6 (02:07:27):
Allegedly Virginia Goufrey or Guthrie is I guess I pronounce
her name poorly.

Speaker 14 (02:07:37):
We wrote in her book. If they don't, I mean, well,
evidently they can't read.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
Oh no, no, no, it gets better.

Speaker 6 (02:07:42):
Did you hear the new details what Donald Trump and
Virginia have actually met one another.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
He counseled her. In fact, she came to him and
they had a long conversation. It turns out she met
Donald Trump and had a conversation with him several.

Speaker 14 (02:08:00):
Well, doesn't you know you know that means then then
he's guilty exactly. And just really one other quick thing
about one one quick thing about the housing is uh
the Lamont has been in charge for the last eight years,
nine years, and he was responsible for leveling uh Stow

(02:08:22):
Village and all the projects and did not replace them.

Speaker 11 (02:08:28):
So you have a.

Speaker 14 (02:08:28):
Housing shortage that they created because they leveled the buildings
and the Snow Village and Snow Village. They did replace
them with two family homes, but the number of two
family homes that they replaced in Stowe Village didn't even
house one building of the eleven buildings they leveled.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (02:08:47):
And and they they knew it because when I talked
to my supervisor when I was working in the inner
city in that area, they said, well, they're nice a building,
they said, but where did all the other people go?
It was planned for them to go to Glastonbury and Weathersfield,
and stuff like that, and then get them in housing.
And once they were in housing, it would be hard

(02:09:08):
to get them out.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Yeah, it's a damn shame that I think Chris was
right though, in sort of restoring the inner city and
those dilapidated abandoned buildings, which we have talked about on
this program. They should have done it a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (02:09:26):
But it's something they can focus on now because the
people that they could be helping, you know, and of
course in this Hearst report, the three thousand homeless people
living in shelters, you could get them in housing as
soon as you rebuild the stuff that's dilapidated in Hartford
and in Bridgeport, you can probably put if not more
than half of those people in housing right now.

Speaker 14 (02:09:49):
Well, I was part of the revitalization of New Britain
and they still have a building sitting on the art
of Little Poland that it took. I was there for
twenty five years, that building defended for twenty five years,
and they just finished redoing it, damn and there's nobody

(02:10:10):
in it.

Speaker 11 (02:10:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:10:12):
And then right where the police station was in New Britain,
they built another multi family built a multi unit building
several stories high. I think it's like fifteen stories high.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
Huh.

Speaker 14 (02:10:23):
And that's not fault.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
It's incredible.

Speaker 6 (02:10:26):
These people we got I just mentioned one that near
Yukon eighty five percent empty.

Speaker 2 (02:10:31):
It's again, it's baffling. I don't I don't get any
of it.

Speaker 11 (02:10:34):
No, well, no.

Speaker 14 (02:10:35):
What it is is and I'll say this, and I'll
and then on this. Yeah, but it is. It's fraud.
It's you're you're taking the money that you're not putting
the money towards where it's supposed to go, and then
you just you kind of like just as long as
no one's holding your accountable, you just go and you
just line the pockets of the people who keep you
in office, and you keep moving along.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
One. That's why I said, I think the whole thing
is a fraud in the first place. Sir, Thanks Sean,
I appreciate it. You got what's up, Danny boy?

Speaker 9 (02:11:01):
How are you doing?

Speaker 7 (02:11:03):
Good?

Speaker 14 (02:11:04):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (02:11:04):
I'm all right? So what's up?

Speaker 11 (02:11:06):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (02:11:07):
This this garbage about you know, let's pass more bills
about affordable housing. We've had solutions for this for a while.
All these empty lots in all the cities, how about
cleaning them up and doing those you know those little
tiny house villages, you know what a lot that'll whole
fifteen of them put them in. You get people that
build a community, they're maintaining. They have to maintain it and

(02:11:29):
keep it up. They can afford to get in there
because half of those tiny houses are fifteen to twenty
five thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:11:36):
You remember when I don't know if you you might
now remember this, but I'm hoping that you remember it.
Do you remember when during the Bloomberg administration in New
York they were thinking about turning those those shipping containers,
the tankers, you know, like the you know, be on
a big cargo ships.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
They were thinking about turning those into apartments. Do you
remember that? Yeah, Yeah, like that's exactly right. Those things.
In fact, those are a little bigger than in small houses,
but they would actually be kind of industrious. You could
put them in a lot of these empty lots.

Speaker 14 (02:12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:12:08):
And the thing is with those those can actually be
stacked yep. You know, they can insulate sound, insulate between them,
they can stack them, they can actually offset them. So
they look kind of unique the way they design these things.
So you're not right above somebody, you know, making noise.
You know, all the thoughts are going to this stuff
instead of going we need five billion dollars to build
another high rise building that's going to be put all

(02:12:31):
these people in. And where are all the people behind doors?

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (02:12:35):
They never go know their neighbors.

Speaker 9 (02:12:36):
They never see their neighbors except to pass them in
the hallway once in a while, if ever.

Speaker 11 (02:12:42):
Yeah, you know, you.

Speaker 9 (02:12:42):
Could put these little, these little tiny villages up all
over the cities, make all these unique little you know,
basically these little tiny neighborhoods on all these lots. There'd
be plenty of places for people to live.

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
Can I let me ask you the goodness, don I
got to take a break. You know what can do
me a favor?

Speaker 3 (02:13:01):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
Can I hold you over for a second. I got
a great question, just just an observation I want you
to take with me on this because as you're talking
about this and we're talking about the crates.

Speaker 6 (02:13:12):
Something came to my mind. But I know some people
might frown on it. But if I'm gonna describe it
a certain way to you, and I want to get
your take on it, So stand by from you. Okay, Sure,
you got hold on. We got more news and more views.
Of course, we got more on this topic when we
come back.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
When we return. Gosh, such a good idea. I'm thinking
about it because I'm thinking if somebody posted this this
meme about the food stamp thing, and they said, if
food stamps only bought people ms, would people get off
food stamps? Which gave me another idea and I'm gonna

(02:13:50):
share with Dan when we returned. Stand by, let's get
to Mark Christopher. He's in a BPS traving cent the
Honesty app.

Speaker 5 (02:13:55):
Let's you jump back to the moments you missed from
wt I see news, talk to Nady. I love the
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Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
Anyway, we'll be back to talk about what had happened.
Was I'm totally about about this sneeze, Like, where the
heck did that come from? I can't believe I'm about
the sneeze er. Anyway, I'll get to Dan in a
quick second. I see a whole lot of people countering
the stuff that I just said, But don't I don't
hear any countering. You're all a bunch of frauds.

Speaker 6 (02:14:25):
I laid out the Epstein thing to you, and I
still haven't heard any encountering inside the chat room. You
got all day you sitting at your computers, go counter
what I just said, which are all a bunch of frauds.

Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
That's why you can't do it.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
You can't come up with it. You can't come up
with any encounter because you're frauds. You're just frauds.

Speaker 14 (02:14:41):
It's all right.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
Let me get back to Dan real quick.

Speaker 14 (02:14:43):
Dan.

Speaker 6 (02:14:44):
So here's my here, here's my idea. Tell me what
you think. Because Chris Powell said something about it too.
It's like, forget about just getting these folks their home.
A lot of these folks are indigen Many of them
wouldn't even know how to take care of themselves if
given the opp oportunity, hence why they ended up in
the situation that they're in. But imagine you put them

(02:15:05):
in sort of a structure that was comparable, not exactly like,
but comparable to our incarceration or prison system. Hear me out,
This sounds crazy, but hear me out, not that the
people wouldn't have the opportunity to go with, you know,

(02:15:26):
whatever the case may be. But they need structure, so
they'd have a curfew where they have to be you know,
inside the house, inside the home, their structural like breakfast, lunch,
and dinner, where they had to be sort of like
an essence, all of their needs being provided for them,
pretty much like a welfare state, but inside of a
structure that is, and those that would be you.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
Know, it would be essence.

Speaker 6 (02:15:48):
It would be different from the shelter system. It would
just be a place where people would live.

Speaker 2 (02:15:53):
And you would feed them under the same conditions that
you do our military, which ironically is the same thing
they do in our prisons. Both food systems are the same.

Speaker 9 (02:16:05):
Yes, kind of reminds me of a place the coach
is calling Mansfield Training Center.

Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
Mansfield Training Center.

Speaker 9 (02:16:13):
Okay, it's actually one of the prisons now out near Yukon.
It was actually where they put a lot of people
with mental issues and mental disability.

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
You go to work with them, exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:16:24):
The problem is is then you become the state of
where we have to lock the people in because they're
danger to themselves and people on the street, and then
the ACLU and everybody else gets involved and it becomes
the big nightmare we have right now all over again.
What we really need, What we really need, though, is

(02:16:44):
someone to step up, and I don't think our governor
can do it because I don't think he's got the
hook spots to actually go out and say it. Yeah,
we need someone that has to say, Okay, all you
people living on the streets, you can't do it anymore.
We're gonna put you in somewhere. And it's not you're
not gonna be locked up, but you're gonna have to
be coming. You know, you're gonna have a place to live, right,

(02:17:07):
and you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:08):
Have right You got to come in during it. You
gotta be there at night at a particular time. You
can't be out roaming.

Speaker 9 (02:17:13):
The street, right because we every year you hear about
how many people froze to death on the cities, one.

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
Hundred and thirty two this year so far.

Speaker 9 (02:17:23):
Yeah, and it's gonna get worse because it's gonna be
a really cold winter. So what do we do. Do
we force them to go? Do We say it's voluntary,
but we're kind of requiring you to go.

Speaker 14 (02:17:35):
How do we do this?

Speaker 9 (02:17:36):
I think it's basically what it is, is anybody on
the street that we can get. We have to open
up some of these vacant buildings and get the heat
running in those places and get people a place to
stay that's warm.

Speaker 11 (02:17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
Thanks, have to be perfect, Yeah, exactly, Thank you, Dan.
I appreciate you staying over.

Speaker 7 (02:17:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:17:53):
Thank you for your intake with it. Thanks man. What's
up everybody? You know who it is?

Speaker 11 (02:17:56):
You know who it is.

Speaker 2 (02:17:57):
You know who's on the radio. Frederick Douglas of the
twenty first century.

Speaker 1 (02:18:03):
It's WTIC news Talk ten.

Speaker 2 (02:18:07):
We are about to get up out of here and
I'll get to the phones in a second. Of meals
ready to eat? Why I'm not supposed to know that.
Craig giving me crap. Craig is furious with me. Goodness gracious.
He's like cursing at me in the chat room because
I didn't know the MRE stood for meals ready to eat.

(02:18:27):
I didn't eat him. I was on welfare, okay, I
wasn't in the military.

Speaker 6 (02:18:34):
I just at least I got the MR right. I
didn't know what they were called. Goodness gracious, Robert B.

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
He wrote to me. He says, I don't know how
old your wife is, but mre's meals ready to eat.
Thank you. Least it didn't make me feel bad. Craig.
I grew up on The freeze dried fruit salad was
my favorite, and the peanut butter was the best. Back
in the nineties, peanut butter was a bit gritty, but

(02:19:03):
you had to massage the oil and peanut butter together
before eating. This was before self heating option that we
have now. Yeah, I don't like stirring my peanut butter.
I think I expressed that earlier. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (02:19:22):
Just peanut butter should be already pre stirred, ready to
go that stuff with the oil on top, and you
gotta mix it.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
It's one extra step. Peanut butter scoop apply. Now I'm
in here mixing like I'm Paul Prudome peanut butter here. No,
if you know Paul Prudom is never mind, it's not important.
Epstein is not that bad. Shut up, Matt. I just

(02:19:53):
read that. That just popped into my head. It was like,
what's wrong with you? People are very said it me.

Speaker 6 (02:20:00):
Because you know, I completely face them on the whole
Epstein thing. It's like, you know, I know what I'm
talking about. You just I told you you want it
to be true, and I get it. I don't care.
It doesn't matter to me. It doesn't I don't care.
You think I'm covering for Trump. No, my objective is
to tell the truth, which I do. You can be

(02:20:24):
mad about the truth, but who cares If you're mad,
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (02:20:27):
So what you want to be pre mad? And everybody
mind you this is the best part. So I have
to do a show.

Speaker 6 (02:20:34):
I have to read copy, I have to go through
the all of the other stuff that I have to
do with my daily you know, show routine. I don't
have time to sit up here and go through the
exhaustive research process. But here we have people who are
on their computers or on their phones, who during the
commercial breaks can completely dispel the stuff that I'm finding

(02:20:56):
in an instant.

Speaker 2 (02:20:57):
Because I'm a I'm a research whiz. I know that
I don't have to brag about it. It's a fact.
You know, you don't have to brag about something that
just is.

Speaker 6 (02:21:06):
Like I am six foot three, I don't need to
brag about it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
It is.

Speaker 6 (02:21:10):
The facts are facts. So I know I'm doing my job.
I know they can't do theirs, so I keep telling them,
don't just.

Speaker 2 (02:21:18):
Argue with me about oh I'm just sticking up for Trump.

Speaker 6 (02:21:21):
Just go refute what my claims are not one of
them is left. Nobody's grabbed a computer, No one's going
to look at him, nobody's posted anything.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
I got plenty of other comments that are coming through here.
Everybody's doing their research, but not these guys. Nope, they
won't even bother why because they know what the truth is.
Making it about me doesn't dispel.

Speaker 6 (02:21:41):
Dispel what the facts are, Teresa writes, your idea with
structured housing for indigen people is spot on, Reese. Unfortunately,
so many homeless are mentally ill and dangerous to themselves,
which yeah, I know and others. We need facilities that
can properly care for them, facilities that are monitored and

(02:22:01):
maybe a three to six month basis to check on
the staff and the facilities. We used to have mental
health institution and they got shut down because people were
abused and uncared for. That's partially true, Terresa, because I'm
gonna find maybe I should. But it was Heraldo Rivera.

(02:22:25):
You might remember this if you are old enough to remember.

Speaker 2 (02:22:28):
HAROLDO. Rivera was one of the people who blew the
whistle on these mental care facilities and affected them so
much that there was these reforms to the point where
they were all shut down because of the stigma that
these places were abusive to the mental patients. And now
people refuse to put them in those institutions because of

(02:22:48):
that stigma. No, you can't put them in a mental institution.

Speaker 6 (02:22:51):
Do you know the abuse that goes on there, and
then that just permeates.

Speaker 2 (02:22:55):
You know, we get where we are.

Speaker 6 (02:22:57):
Through social reconditioning, but one hundred percent right, we do
need to go back to those programs. But you know,
I was thinking this, let me, let me use it
this way, and Brian standby. I promise I'll get to
you in a second. On the phone lines. There's an
important thing here. If you've never experienced it, look into it.

(02:23:18):
So did you understand where I'm coming from here? Maybe
you have a family member's gone through this. So I
was in a group home, I want to say, gosh,
nineteen yeah, eighteen, nineteen years old and I had left
so many of them during my homeless years. So in

(02:23:41):
the group home, which was interesting, they had counselors.

Speaker 2 (02:23:46):
Oh went with Roland. You used to do group homes.
You know this?

Speaker 6 (02:23:49):
You know this better than I do. I mean, well,
maybe we know about it the same. You were a
group home counselor if I'm correct.

Speaker 8 (02:23:54):
Right, technically I was a group home supervisor supervisor.

Speaker 2 (02:24:00):
Apologize, but I must get the distinction, which, in essence,
you oversaw the group home and the faculty and the
group home counselor.

Speaker 4 (02:24:09):
Ten staff under me six kids.

Speaker 2 (02:24:10):
Tense wow, ten staff okay?

Speaker 6 (02:24:12):
So and did you have two shifts or three shifts
of the camp of their group home counselors.

Speaker 8 (02:24:19):
I had three shifts, three overnight eleven to seven okay,
ten six, I'm sorry, ten.

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
To six okay.

Speaker 6 (02:24:26):
Yes, So that's what being in a group home, that's
what you had to deal with. And the kids go
to school, they go to other programs and things like that.
They even go on trips with the camp counselors on
the weekend and during the summer. But this is where
they lived and it's paid for by the state, I believe.

Speaker 4 (02:24:45):
Yeah. The one I worked for was a private was private?

Speaker 2 (02:24:49):
Was an archdiocese? No no, no, no, okay, because the
one I was in it was Archdiocese the the Mother
of Immaculate Mother, Immaculate Version, the Mother m IV, the
Mother of the Immaculate Version out of Tottenville, Staten Island.
And that was again that was that was through you know,
their private fundraising. But that group home was in the

(02:25:11):
Bronx on fourteen oh four Doris Doris Avenue. I'll never
forget it. And it was how I fell in love
with the Smiths and Echo and a Bunnyman.

Speaker 6 (02:25:22):
But that group home was a huge fabric of my life.
I loved that group.

Speaker 2 (02:25:27):
Home and you had a roommate and stuff and you
it was all boys. It wasn't co ed. There are
some grow groups ed and I think that what they
should do is have a structure very similar to that,
because guess what they have that assistant living for mental
institutions as well. In fact, in my moving company, we

(02:25:48):
were hired by the state, but the state of Virginia
actually it is Prince William County. We were hired by
them to move assisted living individuals who had jobs, but
they all lived in a group home life place and
they were adults who could not really function out without
these supervisors that were there. So we should have something

(02:26:08):
like that.

Speaker 4 (02:26:08):
Yeah, I did. I did that on the side.

Speaker 2 (02:26:10):
That was a side job.

Speaker 8 (02:26:12):
No, I did the group home as my full time job.
But what you're talking about assisted living, oh, where there
was adults I had to go there to give him
their meds at the at six pm, at at ten pm.

Speaker 4 (02:26:23):
In their in their house, in their apartment.

Speaker 2 (02:26:26):
Yeah, a lot of them live in actual home.

Speaker 8 (02:26:28):
Yeah, yeah, they had they had he had his own apartment,
and I would stop by at six and I'll stay
there from six to eleven.

Speaker 2 (02:26:36):
Really you would be there that long, yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:26:38):
Because I'll have to give him his meds at six
and eleven. But they needed somebody just to be in
the house with him.

Speaker 2 (02:26:43):
Did you just did you just sit in the house,
like would you communicate with him if they were community.

Speaker 8 (02:26:47):
Yeah, they could watch the game and stuff like that, Yeah,
watch a movie or well most of the time, I
got there at like five point thirty, prep prepp the
uh the medication, gave him his meds. Then I'll cook dinner,
really cook to cook his dinner for him, you know,
and serve his dinner. And then around eight o'clock, No,
normally he would go upstairs to his room and I'll

(02:27:09):
just chill downstairs and watch TV or whatnot until it
was like ten forty five ish. Then I'll go up
there to his room, knock on the door and say
hey time and take your mads Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:27:19):
And then and did you get like a relief for
it and he was just sleeping that Yeah, it was
a third shift. Oh okay, so all right, and then
somebody would come.

Speaker 4 (02:27:25):
Came at eleven.

Speaker 6 (02:27:26):
Wow, that's so what See again, it's not like these
things couldn't be done.

Speaker 4 (02:27:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:27:31):
Yeah, Wow, that's fascinating. I never knew that aspect of
it because I worked with these you know, somebody's in
my moving capacity. I didn't know they stayed like just
like group won't comps.

Speaker 11 (02:27:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:27:41):
That was in Waterbury too.

Speaker 7 (02:27:42):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (02:27:43):
The group home I worked in was in Windsor, and
then that my little side part time was in Waterbury.

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
I love learning something new. Thank you for that. I
appreciate you. Now let me get to Brian. Thank you
so much for holding Brian. How are you good?

Speaker 11 (02:27:56):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (02:27:56):
Maybe I'm a little set up there, but I'm just
I just don't think that this whole housing is about
what people think it is. I'm just suspicious that it's
a way to carry him under the voting districts without
touching the map. If we're moving people who are low
income and you know, welfare, that kind of stuff that
are really beholden to these democratic policies. Who are they gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:28:14):
Hoote for Luke Bronan. Luke Bronan, look no further than
that guy, because he's one of those guys who believes
in that you'll want hundred percent.

Speaker 16 (02:28:24):
Right, So don't be surprised if a study comes out
and says that the Republican stronghold towns need this housing
the most right on.

Speaker 2 (02:28:32):
The nose, my friend.

Speaker 6 (02:28:34):
That is That's why I say I think it's crazy,
because again, it's not like like like Chris Powell said.

Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
They have the means, they have the structure, they have
the infrastructure to improve housing in the city of Hartford,
but they are focusing on these suburbs.

Speaker 16 (02:28:48):
Yes, so why you know you have to ask why. Yeah,
And so maybe I'm being cynical, but I strongly suspect
that it seems like you agree.

Speaker 2 (02:28:56):
Listen to me Arkham's razer, my friend, thank you so much,
Thank you, you got it.

Speaker 6 (02:29:04):
Let's go to my friend Craig in the car, who's
gonna yell at me now instead of just texting it
to me.

Speaker 2 (02:29:09):
In the chat room.

Speaker 11 (02:29:10):
No, I already did that, and you've pressed up Neil
ready to eat man. She's already got the divorce paper style.

Speaker 14 (02:29:18):
You don't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:29:19):
Come on, she doesn't listen to the show when she's
not on it. She's very vain like that.

Speaker 11 (02:29:26):
I'll send her to Facebook link.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
Thank you do me no favors, my friend. What's you
got going on?

Speaker 11 (02:29:34):
If you need housing for the imdagen to low income,
the people that are suffering from all that, just picture
the last empty shopping mall you drove by. Yeah, that's
all you need to know. There's stores that are empty,
and there's plumbing, and there's an empty Macy's, and there's
an empty JC Pennies, which could be entertainment. It could

(02:29:56):
be miniature golf, it could be a Bengal hall, it
could be your go kart, it could be all of that.
And there's a food court. You've got restaurants. Yeah, and
if a private investor would buy that and be funded
by the government to be guaranteed income for putting people
in there, you got a place for people to live,

(02:30:17):
and you have a place for people to recuperate, and
you don't have to build housing in my town.

Speaker 2 (02:30:24):
It's a good point. What do you think?

Speaker 6 (02:30:27):
What do you think of Bryan's take that there is
that sort of the the the political structure, sort of
putting a little wedge between you know, those strongholds that
may be very conservative and sort of like lighten them
up a bit with some Democrat voters.

Speaker 11 (02:30:44):
To me, it's not a political thing. It's a human thing, right,
It's it's what Tunnels to Towers does.

Speaker 2 (02:30:49):
Right.

Speaker 11 (02:30:50):
They're buying abandoned hotels, yes, viable, and they're they're repurposing
them into homes, you know, commune to these for veterans
that can't take care of themselves.

Speaker 2 (02:31:04):
Yeah, and they get.

Speaker 6 (02:31:04):
You know what, aside from their eleven dollars what is it,
eleven dollars a month, I'm sure they get a considerable
amount of donations, but they are growing like tenfold the
amount of locations that they're buying. You know, as far
as the old hotels are concerned, these guys are taking.

Speaker 2 (02:31:20):
I mean, they are really doing real estate or buying
up real estate unimaginably so. And they're doing exactly the
thing that the state could be doing.

Speaker 11 (02:31:32):
Who do you want doing it? Do you want them
doing it? Or do you want Ned will Mont doing it?

Speaker 2 (02:31:37):
Yeah? I would rather have Tonnels for Towers doing.

Speaker 11 (02:31:39):
It, exactly, Yeah, exactly that's my point. There's a lot
of real estate out there. The infrastructure is already there.
It doesn't have to be put in somebody's backyard, and
we can help people. Yep, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
Yep, without a doubt, sir, Thank you Craig as always.
Oh you got it. Craig. By the way, let's get
together as soon as possible. Man, I miss you. I
haven't hung out with you in a while. And plus
I want to you know, I want to go back
to the country club.

Speaker 4 (02:32:04):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
Time to get up out of here. Michael A. Thank
you so much, man, I appreciate you being here. Teresa said.
Her last comment wasn't any get to read it. She says,
we're not helping them by letting them fend for themselves.
That's right.

Speaker 6 (02:32:19):
I mean, it's obvious that they are not equipped to
be able to fend for themselves. They need help, and
they need real help. And it's not just through affordable housing.
They need far more than that. They need structure in
their lives and they don't have any of that. They
don't have any of that. They need more of it.

Speaker 2 (02:32:40):
All right, let's get up out of here. Roseanne joins
us tomorrow. Roland will not, so we'll have Justin in
the house tomorrow again. We had them last week.

Speaker 6 (02:32:51):
As I always say, radio is free, so we thank
you for paying attention.

Speaker 2 (02:32:53):
Remember the game JC in your hearts and in your mind.
Sean Patrick Glove you on me iss you remember that
panic is not planning, so plan your work and work
you're playing me. I'm reaching the radio.

Speaker 6 (02:33:01):
You have a good night, pleasant tomorrow. Mark Christophers getting
your home in the BPS driving Center.

Speaker 2 (02:33:07):
Good night, sir,

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