There is no reward for being a traditional women today

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I'm still in the family here.What I got a Black Cold eighty one
on Instagram and Corey Hardy on Facebook. That's all I got. And I'm
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talk some shit on the black lovesituation to disconnect m because we definitely disconnected.

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But show but show GP. Y'allknow what it is. It's your
man feed back again one most timefor y'all. Former Rocky Road production,
Vitamin D podcast host uh, currentspit Talk podcast host, Uh Rocky Road.

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What was the other one to saythis? Snatigans that used to be
a guest host on there a fewtimes. You know what I'm saying.
A long time friend, her brotherin law, Brandy and her husband firing.
We've been Rocket said the teenage yearsyoung niggas doing dumb but now we've
grown me and doing martyr then thendumb shit. But you know, ain't

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exactly all the way correct shit.But y'all know what the fuck I'm going
with this shit though? That Understoreis Understore GP on Instagram, Greg Powers
on Facebook. I got some ofthat other ship, but I don't even
know. I don't even know howto use all that ship though, So
don't Worryboddy m that day you dida hell of a resume on your Tiffany.

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I just want to say this,Tiffany, my best friend. Tiffany
has been on every show since westarted. You hear a voice but can't
see her for whatever reason. There'ssome kind of distance between zoom and YouTube
when it comes to having your pictureup. If your video is not up
whatever reason, it doesn't prioritize onYouTube. But when you look at the

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clips, when I post clips,you will see her picture. So she's
there, So don't get confused ifyou hear her talking like where she at?
That's just something that they got goingon that I can't fix. So
floating around on your day, it'sme. It's very through dry for me.
I don't like it. Oh okay, all right, so I got

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it. I Like I told y'alllast week, I got a few topics
and I got some videos. Butlet's start off with a video here.
I'm gonna play the video, andI'm gonna see what y'all think about it.
This lady is saying there's no rewardin being traditional. So hold on,
let's get this up. Share it. Can y'all see that? Yeah?

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Okay? Can you still see it? Yeah? I see it.
Okay, I'm about to play itnow. There's no sound. You can't
hear the sound. Nope, that'ssomething stuff. He's talking fast, so

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you gotta read fast enough. Mmhmmm mm hmm. All right, let
me try it again. Let's see, let me see some Wait a minute,

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what happened to the damn video?Well? Shit, bullshit, bullshit,
say y'all gotta be patient. Icould have done this on my laptop.
Yes, hey, Rod, huh, why are you looking for the

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video? I had the microphone MUTIby mistakement, thomsaid, I get y'all
didn't know who he wanted. Y'alldidn't want to know who he was.
He No, go ahead, Tom, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to
cut you off. That's and bysorry, you're perfectly fine. It's okay,
it's okay, Hi, how areyou. My name is Tone.
I'm uh one of the guys thatwas also introduced. I actually was brought

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onto Vitamin D as well. Andit's okay. We had had a very
good show. And you know,my Instagram is Joy Road Tone. I
don't know why Instagram made that nameup, but they did. And my
Facebook name is Tony Knight of theTony Knight and hello, oh my good

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man. I'm gonna try this way, y'all. What I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna send it to myself andI'm gonna play it through the blue tooth.
That's what I'm gonna do. Justwhat the lady was trying to say.
She thinks me, I don't liketraditional women. You want to get
made up on the Instagram holes andthat's and that's definitely not trip I love.

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Well, you know when women seethese women getting played it don't translate
that way, you see what I'msaying, But that kind of play hands
with you. But what you wantto go being respecting in women like that?
Okay, So why do I payattention to them, so let them,

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let them, they might get someplay. But if you only thing
you've got going through yourself, you'the ground videos use someone your ass.
But I think it's gonna says that'sit, that's all, okay, tell
me if yaka here it is so. So let I've noticed is that there's

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no reward in being a traditional goodwoman anymore. If you are a traditional
woman who's got no you know,pictures on Instagram, who isn't going out
all day every day, who isn'tsleeping around and isn't getting lots of surgery
and not putting on loads of loadsof makeup, and you know, simple,
just a traditional woman, there's noreward in that. You will never

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find a date, You'll never finda man that says, here, let
me take you out here and letme do this. Whereas if you are
the most promiscuous, provocative, dangerouswoman, your dms are endless and you
are booked every single day of theweek, and you get to choose which
country you want to fly out to. So humans are going to look at
where's the most reward, and they'regoing to lean towards whatever's the easiest,

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most rewarding and profitable. Unfortunately,can I say something what I what I
didn't hear, was any anything thatspoke more to like the end goal.
The end goal. I thought thatall women wanted to get to the point

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where they're married in a long term, stable relationship. But the more that
I'm seeing this kind of conversation popup, it seems like the currency or
the oxygen for most women who thinklike that, it's just attention. So
if she's talking about the reward beingattention, then yeah, absolutely, if

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you're a hermit, you know youcould be with you know, you're gonna
end up having the Aisha Curry syndromewhere you know, you're with this multimillionaire,
you know, arguably one of thebest shooters in basketball history, but
you're dissatisfied because you're not you're notgetting hit on or you're not getting cat

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call. And I think that whenwomen make this kind of you know,
the statement, it confuses men becauseyou know, we're looking for something completely
different. We have two different categories, and you'll fit in either one.
You're either for play or for thefuture, you know, and most women
don't seem to be able to delineatebetween the two. So you know,

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yeah, she's absolutely correct. Youknow, if you're a traditional woman,
you're not gonna you know, beput in the category of the plaything or
the temporary, you know, quickhit. But you know, if you're
if you're somebody who's looking for attention, then yeah, you're gonna have to
you know, put on that outfit. Uh and you know you're gonna have

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to you know, behave that wayin order to get that type of attention.
But it seems like attention is thecurrency and the oxygen that these these
women nowadays it is looking for.Yeah, I mean, I hear you
on that. I don't I alsothink it's it's a generalization that's not it's

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just not accurate really what you seeon social media. I think social media,
for one, there are certain peopleon social media and that have that
kind of presence, right, andso yes, you're going to see that.

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But the every day woman is notan Instagram model, right, And
we're still getting played out here.So I don't, you know, I
mean, I don't wear loads ofmakeup. I don't you know, dress
promiscuously or whatever people call it.I mean, I think none of that

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really speaks to your character necessarily.But whatever. You know, that's how
people see things. I have verylittle social media presence, and I don't
think I mean, I have apersonality right like I date people, people

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are attracted to me, you know, and I don't have any of those
things that she described, So Idon't think it's relevant. And most of
my friends are in the same boatas me. Yeah, it is social

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media. Social media is there forentertainment. A lot of people feed too
much into social media about likes andyou know what I'm saying, commence stuff
like that. I mean, ofcourse, if agot see a girl who
we thinks that's attractive, he gonnahit the like, but not mean because
that's for people to picture up thereport. You know what I'm saying that
her self esteem, her vulnerability isbased uplying those lights nonside of the tea

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and all those women who only postbakidi pictures or you know what I'm saying
that that they have nigga video,they have to have those lights from to
me and out here in the world. And just because of man likes that
video. I mean, we're justdoing what social media people do or whatever
like that mean, personally, Idon't I don't go for all the glitz
and glamorubber of a lot of fakethis. You know what I'm saying.
I don't need you to go outhere and go to doctor Miami two three

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times to get all your stuff inhand. I want. I don't even
like makeup like that for real.I like a natural beauty. Just throwing
some lip bloss and people to hearin the ponytail and let's go plunt some
joggers in your hair, Maxis,and we out and I'm gonna hold to
hand in public and We're gonna havea good time. But that's a lot
of women put a lot of pressureon theirselves that doesn't that's unnecessary, that
they don't have to put on theselips. Yeah, I mean, I

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agree with with both of you guys, and GP and Brandon because it's it
really boils down to what it isthat you want and what are you looking
for and where do you dissatisfied withand why. I really believe every time
when you base reality off of arepresentative platform or social media is really based

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off the representative you put out intothe world. Very rarely are people being
themselves. So if you base reallife off of that, you already jacked
up real And that's why, youknow, That's why anytime people be like
do you see this? Do yousee that? I try not to get

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tied up about in social media becauseit's just And that's another reason I don't
even talk about entertainment news anymore,because it's like, stuff is so ridiculous.
Now, what is what is real? What is real? It's a
bunch of eyes. I also don'twant to like get caught up in this
idea that women who have you know, who are attractive and have nice bodies

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and you know, we're makeup andwhere they're here a certain way or carry
themselves a certain way, there's anythingwrong with that either, right, Well,
I think you know, Tiffany,I think that there's that's a slippery
slope, right to say that youcan do anything without consequence. And I'm

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not saying anything obviously, I'm not, you know, exacerbating what you're saying.
I'm just saying that I'll take,for instance, you know, like
how how you dress. You're verymodest. And I think that you know,
because my background is in sales,and irrespective of whether or not you're
intent is to sell anything, menare the customer and you are selling something,

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and you a woman knows when she'smodest and when and when she's pushed
past modesty. She knows when she'sdressing to get a particular type of response.
We understand that our women are waymore voluptuous naturally than a lot of
other cultures. And you know,there's a way too, there's ways to

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you know, dial it back,and there's ways to situate it. And
I think far too often our womenkind of take a few steps past,
you know, trying accentuating you know, the things are highlighting the things that
they naturally have. And that's wherethe problem comes in because the confusion to
us as men, which is justsimply natural to us, is Okay,

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well, that's the product that you'reselling to me, and that's what I
want to buy. If you looklike something that's temporary, then that that's
then I'm going to treat you thatway. And I have to because that's
that's what you're presenting. So,you know, social media has you know,
essentially level to playing field for everyoneto market themselves. And I think

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that you know, women, youknow, they kind of want the good,
yeah, without the bad, andthat's just unrealistic. So you know,
I get what I get, youknow, the thought process. But
you know, for us it's veryvery simple. If you you know where
the outfit you know of, youknow, like an amber rose or something

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like that, then I mean that'sjust a response you're gonna get from men.
Yeah, I kind of I kindof think, like I agree to
an extent, but I I kindof go with that. It ain't what
you do and how you do it. So we all, in one way
or another, try to make ourselveslook our best. Whether it don't always

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have to be surgery. But somepeople will put a touch of finishing touch
on something that's already nice, andthey might, you know what I'm saying,
They might just want to add alittle finish and trust. But they
don't necessarily have to go run rampantwith it on social media. The issue

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that I had with the social mediamedia is some people work for likes.
They work for attention. If attentionis something that you're already usedful, you
don't have to work for it.It comes. But people make it a
daily job. Let me put thison, let me turn this way,
let me turn sideway. We dohave some women that's respectful, for respect
for women that altered things on theybodylike that. I mean, you gotta

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think about it. The TV showNip Tuck other nationality has been doing this
ship forever. We just getting toit, you know what I'm saying.
But it's kind of like, it'snot what you do, it's how you're
doing. Like you say, somepeople go overboard and they they attitudes change
that if you're doing it the same. The slaying that I always hear is

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I'm doing this for me. Soif you're doing it for you, your
attitude to remain as humble or ascool as it was before you did this.
Don't change the attitude because it lookschanged. That's when you become a
different person. You look at itin a different like. It's kind of
like getting the new button and thenigga and the guy going on there and
talking about how much money he gotreally but he really don't have. You

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know what I'm saying is like allfor social media. That's where my issue
comes in there, right And whenthey say that that's a lot I've never
heard. I've done it for I'lldo it for me, then why can't
I see it? You know whatI mean, like if if that's the

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case, if you're doing it foryourself, then you know you shouldn't and
that you definitely shouldn't want every chanceto get right. I've never I thought
it was always hilarious man with likea beat like a bb right, Like,
first off, you can't even seeit as much as everybody else can.
So it's impossible that you can doit for you because your neck can't

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even turn back that far, youknow what I mean, Like you got
you say, just to see thatwhat the doctor did, you know what
I mean? It's it's it's andit's so I always find it bizarre,
like you know that, especially withwith the with the bbl's own sisters who
already got a body like it.It's just, you know, you get
to the point where you're starting tolook like character, you know, cartoon

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characters. But now I ain't wantto get too far off for that.
But that's that's a goddamn lie talkingabout you doing it for yourself. No
you're not. You're doing it forme, you know, just be honest
about it. So then is itreally does it become the issue of deflection
and not being aware of possibly thevibes that we're sending off that could be

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off putting. We might perceive ourselvesor want to believe us to be a
certain type of person, but thevibe that we're sending out into the world,
it's like, now I'm trying tomess with her, and so then
we put it on all its theseInstagram models, it's because they look like
this and do this, they're theones who get the attention when really we

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don't know what's going on in theirdms. I don't have people showing me
their dms, So how would weknow that that's a that's a large and
assumption, right, So do youthink that's a thing like delusion overall?
Is just playing the part? Andlack of accountability, sure, and I
think that's that's the biggest component.And then not only the lack of accountability,

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but consequences. There's very few consequencesfor women behaving the way that they
do, especially in bad behavior,especially when your currency or your your oxygen
is attention. And we all heardit, you know, you know,
be it good or bad, attentionis good, you know, irrespective of

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you know, whether it's bad,bad or good attention. You know,
I'll even speak to you know,the young lady who's in Travis Rudolph,
you know his girlfriend. You youknow, her social media presence has increased
probably about fiftyfold, you know whatI mean. But and she set up
somebody to get killed, and asa result, another person got killed.

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But you know, I think thatpeople's gonna do or especially is I hate
to welp, everybody does it.They go crazy for this cloud and you
know, you people, you gotpeople literally losing their lives man, you
know, putting you know, theirfriends and family members in danger specifically for
cloud. You know, I can'ttell you how many times I've seen or
watch so many you know, videoson social media. I can't. I

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can't tell whether or not it's true, or whether or not it's a kid
because people are going so far toto, you know, try and get
that shock value. So as aresult, though, there's very little consequence
for bad behavior, you know,and as a result, it kind of

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gives the false the false belief thatwhat you're doing is okay because people get
paid at the end of the dayfor doing the stuff that they do.
So you know, you can't say, on one end, oh that's bad,
but at the end, you geta check, you know, so
it's you know, and that's onlyfans. You know. Think about it.

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You know, you got that younglady, that that white girl,
what was her name? What wasthat that she was? She was real
young and she was a girl,the little girl she was. Yeah,
yeah, twenty million dollars, youknow what I mean? It was more
than that. I think it was. That was like her first month,

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you know what I mean. Andit's crazy when you talk about, Okay,
I want a moral you know,I want to particularly a traditional woman,
right going back to the video.But who gets the reward? She
gets it the cash. Me outsidegirl gets the you know, she gets
a double one times. So shegets the cash, she gets the money,
and she gets the attention, thenotoriety, and the fame. I

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mean what I mean, how howso it's gonna be difficult to compete with
that, you know. So Ithink the days of us seeing moralistic you
know, wholesome girls are are gone, you know, and you know it's
gonna be too much conflation between youknow, the belief of oh what a
traditional woman is and and what youreally should be looking for in the man.

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Women far too often think that justhaving sex means that you're successful with
men, and that's not that's notit at all. You're going you're getting
ran through. You're not on thewinning end. That that that transaction at
all, you know. So Ithink that you know, there's not enough
consequences to the behavior, but thatgoes that's that's on us, that's on

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the on the myth and we're notdoing a good job. I think you
have a point, but I dowant to point out that again, people
get consequences, there's not there's nosuch thing as there are no consequences.
I think the problem is there isn'ta town hall meeting to the consequences where
they're being pointed out, because Imean, think about, uh, this

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is kind of a different think aboutthat person that we know that's always in
trouble and they're getting consequences, butthey keep finding themselves in trouble. That
don't mean they're not getting conselate.It looks like it couldn't be hurting them
because they would do differently at theend of the day, like what does

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this person really want? You know? So I think I think it's a
whole skewed thing when it comes tothe way y'all see us, or it's
the way that women talk about men, like there's no good men. And
I think that's a very skewed perceptionbecause again, a lot of our viewpoints,
whether we want to admit it ornot, they come through the scope

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of social media. But I cannotI say that doesn't translate late in my
life because I know too many goodpeople and otherwise, so it's not adding
up. We're just not interacting inthe way that we used to. And
then like all of us, we'veall been married or we are married,

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so we're not even in that market. Okay, were you to listen,
so you wanted to point that out? Okay, right right? Staying on
that, you know what I'm saying, They're not married, everybody. Let's
make sure we make that clear.No, no, no, no,
I'm just I've never been married.I'm not I'm listening. I'm not putting

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my step out there as a singleman. I'm just I've never been Are
you in a relationship? Huh?You said you're not putting yourself out as
a single man, So I'm tryingto you're you're in the relationship. I
didn't say that. I'm not okay, all right, Well so that was

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a slip. I apologize, allright if I'm moving on, But the
end relationships and formally marry are themajority on this panel at this time,
so I think we off rip withthat. We have a different viewpoint,
you know. I think we haveto get real. People are not getting

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real, and we're doing a lotof talking for likes and clicks. I
mean, the more ridiculous the story, the more views. Right. That's
so it's kind of even hard totake this stuff seriously. But nonetheless,
it's good to talk about, soit makes good. It makes good shit.
I guess I got another video.I'm gonna play. Y'all gonna hear

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it, and I'm gonna take Iforgot really what she's saying. So I'm
gonna have to take kinds of rockWhat is this on on YouTube? Huh?
Do you want me to send youthe link? Yeah? No,
I'm I'm on the zoom. I'mjust saying I can go on YouTube too,
That's what I was trying to see. How you do this, Rocky
Road Productions. What's the name ofit? So I can type it up

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on YouTube? Rocky Road TV.Oh, I don't know. Here me
go. I found you on mylaptop. I'm saying the link you see

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it, well, I sent itto your phone. I don't think that's
cell phone. But anyway, allright, y'u, I'm about to play
this video. This chick was veryinteresting to see and will only do what

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you allow him to do, allright. Saw if women allow men,
which means she submit right and allowhim to lead, she don't have no
control over what he's gonna do.She's steady submitting to him. Women have
to change their minds and realize thatthey ain't supposed to submit to men because

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men just gonna do what you allowthem to do, because they don't have
no governor on their own behavior toknow when to not do something, to
know better. They don't know.They're just gonna keep reckless, being reckless,
and they're not gonna take care ofyour feelings because they're only concerned about
theirs. So the solution is isto change women's mind and stop looking at

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men as leaders and take her naturalposition as leader and govern males. Since
he ain't gonna go withnee himself.I got the end of that. Wow,
how do you feel about that?How? How would? But how

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how how it is say, say, for instance, that all the women
in the world at the same exacttime take her advice. M how are
they going to enforce it without theassistance of men to ensure that what they
that the change is effective? Howhow how are how are they going to

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do that? I mean, that'sit. It's what she's saying. It's
nonsensical, Like I think like thatit just makes no that's that's that's that's
idiotic. What what what she justsaid it actually is is And that's dangerous.
That's dangerous. That puts that putswomen in almost like a defensive slash

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pseudo offensive position. It's very dangerous. This is like saying, you know,
let's because nothing, nothing is given, it's only conceded, So you
have to literally beat in like youwould have to beat them in order to
take their leadership role. That isnot a it's not a game in that

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in that asp like he's like,you're gonna have to beat a man in
order to take that that position away. So yeah, I think that's dangerous
and I think it's it kind ofspeaks to the fact that men did a
good job making it so nice andcushy that a woman could literally say that
like that's that that's dangerous, Buthow would they how how would how would

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that happen? It's like this SaintAmazonia like wonder woman, and they're not
coming out like what's like, howare you going to enforce that? I
don't know anybody else you bring upsome good points. I think whether that

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lady is need to just shut thefuck up talking about like you can see
that's dangerous. Tell nobody else likethat. I mean, I think for
me, like what comes up isagain, what is the goal here?

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Because is the goal to control oneanother? Or like what are we talking
about here? It does seem likethat today. It's like it's like who
can shoot on the other sex themost? It's it's very bizarre because we
should be wanting to get along.There is no there is no benefit to

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this is the way I see it. So has these conversations really become about
for a click bait? Is?I wonder because I this woman popped up
after I gotta know I'm gonna playthe next is anybody else want to speak
on that before I play the nextclip from her? Okay, no,

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all right? Here is the nextclip? Yea men cannot control their emotions.
They can't control it. That's whyyou have people going to schools shooting
them, shooting up the schools.You have domestic virus and you got none

(35:46):
of them. Women just shooting themselves. Right, women have no control emotions.
The only thing that between you andwomen is about women about and because
of this level of ignorance, she'smaking decisions off of the emotions. But

(36:09):
if you put this woman and itwas bone changes, I've missed a bit
of that. Those are little difficultto hear. Women can't control not controlling
emotions, they can't control. That'swhy young people going to schools shooting shoot

(36:32):
up the schools. You want todomestic shooting them stills right, controls between
you and women is I think theaudio is even worse than now. She's

(36:57):
basically as she said that me cannotcontrol their emotions. That's why you had
the school shootings and they're killing themselvesand all of this stuff. Women can
control their emotions far more. Theonly difference is is that men know women
more than we know men, sothey have studied us more and know us
more than we know them. That'sI mean, the numbers don't bear that

(37:25):
out because say, for instance,that that was true, right, and
she went to extreme like normal,which is the school shootings, right,
I wouldn't call it that any emotionalproblem. I would call that a mental
issue, you know, because peoplearen't doing that. But according to the

(37:46):
numbers, there are enough guns inthe United States to arm every American with
two guns. So that's probably aboutnearly just a little bit over half a
billion guns. There's not nearly enoughevidence to show that men are incapable of
controlling their emotions because you don't havea million shootings a year. In fact,

(38:14):
if you just talk about the numbersin total gun violence or violence that
result in death is behind heart disease. So I think that men have shown,
especially in the West, a greatamount of patients and emotional intelligence.

(38:37):
I think what women are looking at, or what she's probably talking about,
is the extreme right, the thethe exception to the rule, because if
you look around, and we canattest to this, we're very peaceful,
you know, when you look especiallyin like you know, places like you

(38:59):
know, Detroit, you know it'sno longer the murder capital because men have,
you know, figured out ways toresolve the issues. And also the
fact that the numbers went down drastically, you know, these brothers started moving
out. But nah, that thatthat doesn't the numbers just doesn't bear it
out. Now, do I thinkthat women in certain circumstances they kind of

(39:22):
had our superior you know, emotionally, certainly? Absolutely, But but that's
that's true as well for men.You know, I don't. I don't
think that in order for I don'tthink it's beneficial to if we want to
have these good these conversations, youknow that, especially like the way that

(39:45):
she kind of phrased it to tokind of put pick one one against the
other. Certainly there's that, Yeah, I mean I think that that's kind
of that's kind of like going backwards. You know. Yeah, it's gonna
be things that you're gonna be naturallybetter at. It's just it's just,
yeah, you're just gonna be naturallybetter at that than I am. But

(40:07):
you know, that doesn't mean thatthere needs to be a change in the
guard when we need to take uparms against their their significant others, you
know that, Yeah, who isthat lady? Yeah, I don't.
I think it's counterproductive to address thingsin that manner. The relationship really should

(40:36):
be a collaborative process, right,and all of this divisiveness, it's just
counterproductive advice. I think we shouldit might be more effective for us to
talk about how we can work togetherinstead of all of this kind of dialogue.

(41:00):
Right. So this isn't precisely whyI played those clips, because this
is what I was saying of whyI started this. This is the type
of foolishness that I see. It'svery divisive, and I'm trying to figure
out what is the endgame here,and like, are people being incentivized?

(41:21):
I know planted might be sound likemore on the conspiracy side, but is
there's some kind of incentives being givenfor these type of shit that's going on.
It's so divisive and it has nopoint other than clickbait. And I
think people get repped up and thenthey believe, like they believe what she's

(41:42):
saying. You're gonna have women thatbelieve what she's saying it's facts, just
like whatever troll and the males aside, You're gonna have men that run with
what the fuck he's saying as facts, you know. And and this is
why I'm encouraging if you want tobe in a relationship You're really gonna have
to engage your brain and disengage fromprogramming, because if you listen to these

(42:05):
fools, you will be in disarray. You will you can't let this ignorance
over talk. You go ahead toyou, I'm sorry, and to think
in terms of all women are likethis and all men are like this.
Yes, it's problematic as well.M yep, because you are your thoughts,

(42:31):
and you will begin to attract thatthose will be the experiences and the
people that come into your life becauseyou truly believe that's what it is,
no matter what. And I'm justspeaking from personal experience. I know my
dating scene wasn't as long as many, but I can tell you I never

(42:52):
all the dumb stuff that I haveexperienced dating. I never thought that black
men wouldn't it, or men wouldn'tshit or none of that. That was
never my mind frame, and Iended up getting married. So you can't
hold that mind frame. I justthink you have to be optimistic. So
I'm sorry I've been talking about I'mpressed the mute, I guess, but

(43:15):
I was saying the same thing,like that's kind of her opinion, but
to an extent, like it's notfor every man or every woman. But
there is a lot of men outhere killing women. We just got a
call about one just happing this weekend. You know what I'm saying, But
that don't put it that don't makeall me in bad, but it is

(43:36):
a lot of it's a lot ofemotional men that be tripping about women.
And I don't make it bad forall of us, but her pain hold
a little value, it just don't. I mean, we do have to
over be bigger than what she's talkingabout, because that's not everybody's life.
But it isn't truth to what you'resaying, and it's on the news daily.

(44:00):
Well sure, And here's the thing, speaking from her experiences, all
of what she's saying might be true. It makes sense for her and what
she's encountered, right, And that'swhat and that's what we have to be
mindful of, is we see thingsoftentimes based on our own experiences, and

(44:30):
so people make generalizations like that isit true based on statistics? Well probably
not, but for her statistically thatmakes sense, right right. Trying to
find this lady on YouTube so Ican find her name. She has some
ridiculous name too, most definitely,And and that's really what I was saying

(44:52):
by using your brain, and itwould be better And it's too much like
right right, but it would beso much better if people will say,
I'm speaking from my experience, I'msharing my story. But because people don't
do that, I think it's importantto put out there. You guys have

(45:13):
to listen to people as this istheir experience in their story. But you're
still in charge of your life andyour perception, you know, and who
you hanging around has a lot todo with this stuff too, So it's
gotta be in a it's not abouteverybody else, It's about you. Everything

(45:37):
at the end of the day boilsdown to you, and if you can't
accept that, you're gonna have ahard way to go. You know,
Black is new to this, sowhen he pops back on the screen,
I do want to ask him it'sexperience, like what is new to say?
Okay Black? Ya he yes,I hear you. In your time

(46:01):
of dating, what is your biggestbone of contention when it comes to women?
Like, what is it that it'sjust like that's been standing in your
way of a selection of successful relationshipthat you think that you can think of,
Uh, honestly, honestly, I'mnot even gonna lie. I think

(46:22):
I'll stand in my all way mreal talk. Can you elaborate on that
places like brothers speak for real,Like I've got I have a like I've
been through a lot, but Igot such a I got a wall up,

(46:43):
and I'm never letting it die.You know what I'm saying, Like
like from me, I guess protectingmyself, protecting my my feelings or whatever,
and properly protecting that person too,because I'm I'm I'm a motherfucker.
I ain't gonna lie. You knowit's gym and I season I'm being rare

(47:06):
for rare form sometimes I understand stoppedto cut off for real bro, Bro,
you said you're never letting your walldown, meaning like ever you know,
I mean, I'm not saying I'mnever letting It's hard to let it
down, It's what I mean.Okay, that's yeah. So if I

(47:28):
got it up, then I ain'tgot to worry about and I and I
don't and I knew I know Ihave mess something that could have been potentially
good up just by you know whatI'm saying, not letting a person in
if you know what I'm saying,Like, like I know, it's a

(47:50):
chick. It's a chick. LikeI met she cool, We cool,
and for some reason she loved myblack ass. And I won't even give
her the time of day because Ijust don't feel I just I'll be trying
to sabotage shit. I don't knowwhy. I just do the shit.
It's fair. It might be fear, it might be fear. It is
it's it's I'm telling you, it'sfear. It's always fear. Fear is

(48:10):
always the boogeyman in the back thatkeeps us from obtaining any goal or any
form of happiness. It will alwaysbe a boogeyman, and we have to
conquer that because, like I wastrying to express earlier, time is gonna
go by regardless, right, Soit really comes about how are we going

(48:31):
to spend this time and what waywe're gonna spend this time. Here's the
thing. If you never bring thewall down, you'll never get anything to
penetrate, right, I mean,because even even light needs a little hole
to peer through. So yes,you could let your wall down and you

(48:52):
could get hurt. But along gettinghurt, you gotta look at these instances
that you are joining yourself in,you have to analyze them and see what
you gained from that or what thatwas, sum it up, come to
an understanding and move forward. Andand that's really how you get going and

(49:13):
get into where you need to go. You can't hold onto things because it's
you'll never get to your destination.You'll be too bogged down with the ship,
you know, the shit. Youknow. So it's I certainly appreciate
your the transparency there too, theblack because oh yeah, you know,

(49:34):
I mean, just tell them thetruth. It is what it is,
you know what I'm saying. Iain't scared of nothing to just me,
Like you said, it's it's thefear of prop of being hurt. I
think one time, I think onetime I said on the podcast, I
think I said I had never beenheart broke, and I was wrong because

(49:54):
I actually have had a heart broke. And that's like a thing with us.
US is well with some men inany way. Me, it's that
emotion and I had to realize,like if I don't let that emotion out,
then let that shit. Got getrid of that shit, I never
be able to move forward, youknow what. Tot of a lot of

(50:21):
people, and a lot of blackmen think about heartbreak in terms of previous
romantic relationships. People have had theirheart broken and lots of different kinds of
relationships, and that impacts an intimatepartner relationship as well. So you know,

(50:45):
it's like what you said in termsof having the walls up, and
you get in your own way,and it's like yeah, and knowing it's
half the battle, right, justknowing, just having that awareness doesn't fix
any problems. Right, So it'slike, Okay, now you're aware of
this, and now what And it'snot enough to say just let that wall

(51:08):
down, because that wall is upfor a reason and it's protecting you,
and and the wall is actually notlike we look at it, it's problematic.
It's actually a solution to a problem, right, I mean it it's
a solution to a problem. It'spreventing certain things, right, it's a

(51:30):
solution. It's a solution because otherproblems you Yeah, And it's it's one
of those things where it's like,Okay, well we'd like you to put
your wall down. You probably wantto get your wall down, but do
you have the skills to even handlewhat might come at you if your wall

(51:51):
is down right, or do Iwant to deal with, like you said,
the skills, Do I want todeal with what's gonna come when ill?
No? I remember everyone remember Black, We did an episode of Viting
Mad about this about do you everreally feel healed from heartbreak? And we
touched on that it ain't just alwaysabout relationship wise and stuff like the stuff

(52:15):
that you go through in a relationship, like on the relationshiphip, it may
be some other things that you wentthrough in life that as a person that
not just that you, but I'mas a person that you need to you
need to heal, you need towork on before you even know how to
be with somebody in a relationship.Like the relationship part might be fixed,
but it's other things going on thata person may be going through they need

(52:36):
to work on within they self beforethey can actually try to become one with
somebody else. A lot of menthink they too something to see something therapist
and shit like that, which isthe dumbest shit in the world. Yeah,
that's why I said, That's that'swhat I said. I remember we
had that episode and I said thatI had never had my heart broke,

(53:00):
and I was like I said Iwas wrong, because I definitely have.
I just didn't probably realize it orI wasn't speaking on it from relationship was
I'm saying, like any other shitlike nah, ain't nobody never hurt me
like that? But no, Iactually have been hurt. And when I
say that shit hurt, that shithurt. And that's why that wall is

(53:21):
up, Like nah, I neverallowed nobody else to get that close to
me and be able to hurt melike that, which is, like I
said, it's kind of like agift fan a curse. Right, you
ain't gonna get nowhere. You letit down, you end up getting hurt.
It's got to be some type ofbalance in there between where you know
whatever, like you like Uti wassaying, am I gonna be able to

(53:43):
deal with whatever come my way whenI do let it down? Right?
And that's when that's where that therapypiece you know, that tone was speaking
about comes into play too, right, is exploring all of that and being
able to process those things and buildthose those skills to be able to handle
life when it hits you. MYep, you're absolutely right, you know

(54:15):
M. I think too just growingup man, and just honstantly reacting to
life and the shenanigans that has beenthrown your way, you know, and
never really just getting a fresh breathof air to just develop some real coping

(54:38):
mechanisms. It'd be something, it'dbe something for real, Like I mean,
I also want to speak on thatbecause I hear people saying that's a
lot like you know, or youneed to work on things before you can
like be in a in a healthyrelationship, and yes, and no,

(55:02):
you can certainly work through things andbe in a relationship. In fact,
I think being in a relationship canoften be the catalyst for you working on
things and healing things. I honestlythink that's what the reason for relationships.

(55:22):
We look at them as you know, we look at all the good in
it. But relationships bring about growth. That's the I believe that's their primary
purpose. It's the growth. Youneed somebody else to be bouncing off of
or to mirror you, to checkthat ship, because you're always gonna think
that you're right. I mean,you know what I'm saying. You're always

(55:45):
your biggest cheerleader a lot of timesin the wrong way. If we would
turn that cheerleading into the right waywe're motivated us to the positive and not
always the negative. You know thatthat has to be balanced as well.
So yeah, yeah, and wehave to be we have to be thoughtful
too about the kind of relationship weget in. Yes, you know,

(56:07):
because you know that to pleasure.Yeah, but that kind of goes back
to like I would like tip liketimple saying that's it's it's a yes and
a no on that. It kindof go back to last week when we
were talking and the young lady wassaying about it, like she got like
her check off list or whatever likethat. So we put you into relationship

(56:30):
with somebody, you know, y'allhad those conversations and getting that getting to
know each other period. So ifsomething that that person is dealing with is
something that you would check off asa no for you, it's not.
I don't think it's healthy for y'allto progress into calling the relationship just as
of yet if that person is becauseif they're still going through issue that you
know, gonna cause a conflict inthe relationship, y'all saying y'all self up

(56:52):
a failure though, that's real,that's real. But you know, with
any relationship. Number One I thinkyou really need to know what you want?
What do I want? One ofmy first and foremost. You have

(57:15):
a lot of biggest questions. Youhave a lot of people that had in
Tennessee still be like, oh knock, did this is my last flationship?
Oh? Nah? Like how canyou work through that? If you judge
me for everything? Y'all exte youknow what I'm saying. We need to
talk. I need to know aboutyour likes and dislikes. Don't just tell
me what James did right. Sonumber two would be patients. Number one

(57:38):
is knowing what you want, andtwo is patience. You can't expect people
to come to you perfect. Hell, you're not perfect. We've got to
work it together. All I knowis I meet a girl, it don't
work out, and all I'm leftwith is the draws. Okay, okay,

(58:05):
so black, let me ask youthis. Okay, so hey,
this is not vitamin D black,It's okay. We you know the comic
relief, So we want to balancethis thing out right because the comedy is
helpful because you don't you don't knowwho's watching, so it doesn't have to

(58:25):
be all ain't or retentive, andit doesn't have to be a big,
you know, ridiculous clown show either, So we got to kind of balance
at the same time. Right,that's right, that's right. Ship,
here we go. You know what, So what were you looking for?

(58:47):
Though? Draws? But that's probablyone of my problems. Yeah, he
looking for the drawers. Get withsomebody else who's also looking for the jobs.
That probably my problem is. Likeyou said, you gotta know what
you won't I don't even think Ireally know what I want right now.

(59:10):
I don't know. If I don'tknow, do you know what you don't
want? I don't know that Ineed. God damn, my brother,
you gotta work meet us halfway.I'm fucked up. Well, you're gonna
get mixed results because your compass isbroke. I know. That's what I'm

(59:30):
saying. I'm screwed up. No, you're not screwed up. You're acting
a damn food. No, I'mbeing serious though, I'm being serious,
like, ain't nothing wrong with you. I've known you for years. You're
acting the food. I am soserious. I really don't know what I
want. Sometimes I don't know.Sometimes I do want to, you know,
relationship. Sometimes I enjoy being seen. But on the on the single

(59:52):
part, shit, they get born, they get long, and then and
then it sh get and then theyget comfortable to where I'm stuck in my
I'm like I said, I'm probablybe in my own way a lot because
I'm so comfortable and with being bymyself. You know what I'm saying,
Like like I'm being I'm being honesty, I'll think I'm fool I'm being ones

(01:00:15):
No, no, no, okay. So then when I do, like
I beat chilling or whatever, Imeet a chick whatever, fuck, I'll
be ready for that motherfucker to goleave it. So maybe that's all like

(01:00:37):
that. Maybe you do well inthe relationship, or you and your significant
other have your own spot space.When you guys come together, you have
a really good time without the arguingin that headache. We enjoy each other,
we vibe out whatever, we wosex up, whatever, and you
go back to your place. Thereare relationships like that. People even may

(01:01:00):
very like that. They live inseparate homes and and they thug it out
like that. I mean, thatmight be a thing. I think it's
also important to know that every relationshipdoes not have to be the same,
and it needs to work for you. Whatever the dynamic is, it needs
to work. That's the point.It doesn't have to look like your friends,
but it does need to work right, and it's important that both people

(01:01:23):
agree to having that kind of relationship. Yes, most definitely. No.
That need to fit his motherfucking asdown and decide what he wanted, what
he don't want. He gotta haveone. He gotta have one or the
other got them? I don't know. And he don't want a challenge at
all. From a challenge. Youwon't take it a challenge? What's your

(01:01:52):
mean? Challenge? What's the challenge? Okay, happen? Yeah, I'm
with that ship, but I gottafinally, it's got to be the right
person to make them move with.How do you know when they're the right
person when you cut them all off? Because they wasn't right from the jump.

(01:02:13):
Okay, that's why you hear onthe show talk about it. When
I'm alone in my room, Hey, hey, that ll here different with
y'all when you buy yourself. ThatLL's different when you when you gotta broke

(01:02:35):
heart, you lonely. When I'malone in my rule, it's right out.
Hey, Hey, I got Igot a challenge for you, bro,
for the rest of this month.I challenge you. I challenge you
to find one woman who you normallywouldn't go for it, like not nothing
you see that the liquors, thoughnot nothing you ran across in the hood

(01:03:00):
somewhere. I challenge you to approachone woman that's audio covering on what you
normally would go for and take heron a real date. Not know fucking
you you're coming over here and cheeringwith me. Let's go to ye anything
that you can say, some stupidshit you like that, like I want
you want to do it off thefirst time you made up. That's not

(01:03:21):
what we're talking about. And Idid that. LOI I challenge you,
my man, I challenge you.He just did it, so I didn't.
So I gotta ask this question inGP you are talking with great sense.

(01:03:42):
Can I ask why this great adviceand insight that you have that I
must commend, Why is it nottranslating? Listen? Let me too,
now, let me let me tellmy fucked up mine. Listen. I
can get a great advice when itcomes to relationship and and and things that

(01:04:03):
my boys should be doing. ButI just I don't I can't follow I'm
fucked up in the head. Idon't know what's going on with me.
No, you're not up in thehead. That bullshit, that's what you're
choosing not to thank you, Thankyou, Tiffany. Well, I will

(01:04:25):
say this, I just recently openedup to someone, a friend of mine,
and I don't will see. Idid just we had a real conversation
that we've never had before. Andwe'll see where that goes. I did

(01:04:45):
that. Believe that friend probably didn'tbelieve me. You know what, I'm
gonna just but we gonna I'm gonnakeep y'all left that and on what's going
on in the will see where yougo. Please please keep, please keep

(01:05:08):
us updated. I really hope itworks out for you so too. I
think so Brandon. Hey, look, I feel like there's an inside joke
that I just don't know. Ohyou know, you know, pool cracking

(01:05:31):
inside jokes though, that's what That'swhat it seemed like. I'm just,
you know, I'm next students inthe class, just looking notes get past.
That's all. Everybody knows what's goingon. Uh No, but no,
I think that, uh I thinkyou know what. I will say

(01:05:53):
this Black, Honestly, that's that'sreally too. But that's how kind of
like how I knew that to quit. You know, my wife was the
one is after I swear, Ipromise you, after we did our think
I was okay with her, remainedin a round, and I think that

(01:06:17):
I think that was the one thatwas the that was the empirical evidence that
I needed in my very very youngmind that damn, she's different, because
I didn't you know, you know, you know the feeling that folks man,
you yeah, no, let meyou know what, Brandon, I

(01:06:42):
appreciate that, and case no,I think that can be the case for
a lot of years. However,However, however, Rakil mentioned the concept
of one's compass being broken. Whatyou said, No, seriously, I

(01:07:04):
believe that. I believe that toan extent. This this is one of
those those components where this is,this is before the compass, because this
this is just normal male like stuffright here. If if you if if
after you bust as a man andyou can't stand hurt like like like he

(01:07:27):
said, he just left with thedraws. That's because he kicked her out
so quickly she couldn't even put themon. So that I mean, that
is a real emotion, that's areal situation. And if you can't stand
that woman after you you released,then there's no reason. And even continuing
on with that now, it's gonnabe difficult to try and find somebody that

(01:07:51):
you know you can make that connectionwith. But you know, I think
that, you know, for me, I'm just saying for me, I
it worked for me. I knowthat when after I was, after we
did our thing, I know,I was Gucci, I'm like, oh,
okay, cool, well let's watchyou know something on TV, or
let's grab something to eat or somethinglike that. I mean, no,

(01:08:13):
you ain't gotta go with blah blah. So I think that's that's important.
I'm sure there was more to itthan that, though, right, it's
not that I can stand the person. It's just sometimes, you know,
sometimes it's just like when you leaveGrandma bad. I'm also black. That

(01:08:40):
could have also been someone you hadno business being around in the first place,
because you already knew you didn't reallywant them to a RP. Maybe
that's too but at that time,in that moment, it was all good.
The the assignment was understood, andbut that's not that's that's not that
that's not necessarily saying every time becauseit has been busy. I didn't want

(01:09:02):
you to leave, right, Shit, I'm saying, come let me,
let me hold on to this motherfuckerlike I let mine go. Like so
I know I know the feelings now, but I'm halfway joking too, you

(01:09:25):
know what I'm saying. But youknow, yeah, I think the compass
component man, uh. You know, being in the right hand space and
being being prepared and ready, youknow, that's that's important, you know,
being on your purpose and align themwith somebody who is going to be
you know, an asset versus aliability to to to you that helps you

(01:09:46):
to see, you know, somethingdeeper and you start looking at this person
more as a you know, anecessity of utility that is going to help
you down you down down the road. So and then only that, you
know, we're at the age whereour needs are different, you know,

(01:10:08):
you know, it's no longer youknow, you know, back in the
day where we can afford to makeerrors and mistakes. Now we have to
be a little bit more pragmatic.And you know we we can, you
know, we can ill ahore toyou know, really try it out.
You know, what I mean.I mean, you almost gotta you know,
be be dead, you know deadon you know, with with your

(01:10:31):
execution. So I mean you,you know, black you in the precarious
situation. Man, I mean Ido not invY you at all. So
this is my question too, Okay. So I was thinking, right,
how often do we go to conventionsand things that are of our interests?

(01:10:55):
Maybe exploring conventions and gatherings that arecentered around your biggest interest. It's also
an avenue to find people that arelike minded that you can form relationships with,
right, I mean, because there'sthere's more to meeting people than the

(01:11:16):
corner store and the club and thegas station. Right. Well, that
was a very that was an overgeneralization, of course, But I'm just

(01:11:38):
saying, like you know, inour everyday movings about we're kind of routine
in the way we do things.We go to work, we go to
and I mean, if you ain'tfound nobody by now in the same four
places you go within the week,yeah, because my whole little route is
worth stopping. The stole created mightput a number and come home, get

(01:12:00):
something to eat. It's the sameroutine that I definitely need to change the
routine, though I do you knowit was an I hate to always bring
up Kevin Samuels, but some thingsare a stand out. It was he
that I got the idea from,Like when my daughter gets baby about sixteen
or a little bit older, tolike maybe get her a membership a ship

(01:12:24):
at a country club and you know, put her environment in environments where a
certain caliber of people would be atso she can run into these people.
And so I think we just haveto be purposeful about our environments and even
how we move to find our spouses. So it's like what a child you

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have to think about when you saythe caliber of the person, what are
those values that are most important toyou? And where would those people be?
Because right, country club, Imean you're talking about money. That's
all you talk about. Definitely money, Yeah, that's it. So you're

(01:13:08):
not gonna necessarily get the person you'relooking for there unless all your concerned with
his money. But if you're lookingfor that, you know that was a
just yes, if you're looking formoney, for sure. But let's say
that you're in where did I lie? No? When you said no,

(01:13:28):
I'm saying when you said all thatshit, I would like because ain't thinking
that I'll just be beating and ship. No. I mean, but let's
say you're in the guns or somethingconvention. Huh what was you saying?

(01:13:49):
I think he was talking about youknow they doing that truck. Oh oh.
I mean it's just it's just somethingto consider what am I interests?
Okay, what is going what eventsare going on with these interests and start
bumping into people. I mean,hell, we should do that stuff anyway
for networking purposes, for the longrelationships. You know, we it's a

(01:14:12):
lot of stuff that we're missing ouron. I was just thinking about that.
We'd be wanting the stuff to pop. But you only go on to
four places, like you know whatI'm saying. You gotta travel, get
out, meet people, and mostimportantly meet people that hold your interests,
and there you can find people thatyou would get I think that's that's a
really good point because I know,like right now the stage in my life,

(01:14:34):
I'm looking for a friend, rightsomeone who like that to me,
that's like an important part of asuccessful relationship as someone who I really see
it's like my friend, like thisis this is a friend of mine,
you know what I mean? Andwhere it's before you know, you look

(01:14:56):
for you know, this person's attractiveor whatever, you know, all these
other things that you might be lookingat. And and the same goes for
the men who approach me. IfI if I get that vibe that you're
only approaching me because I look goodor because you know, if you're coming
at me in a certain way,I'm not really interested. I don't.

(01:15:21):
I don't like that vibe. Iwant somebody I can like chat with,
you know, I do. Ihave small talk when I'm out and about
all the time. And I reallyappreciate that somebody who can just chat with
me, we talk about something thatyou know, we're both interested in,

(01:15:42):
or you know, somebody who justseems to be a kind human being,
right opposed to like, oh there'sthis physical attraction and we just like have
to have each other kind of deal. I didn't have. I didn't have
that. I didn't have to justjust the conversation type of shit, just

(01:16:06):
mingling, just the conversation and andand at the end of it, shit
I walk walk away, she walkaway, or whatever. Theky I didn't
have had that. I didn't havethe I didn't had it all. I
didn't have the damn you find asfuck this is her to me or me
to her, you know, sayingsome English ship to her. I didn't

(01:16:26):
have her say some English shit tome, you know, vice versa or
whatever. I did all that.But the conversation. If you can sit
and have a conversation with somebody overlike you know, what they call a
ship, cocktail or whatever the hell, just a genuine conversation and go their
separate way, that's the ship too. M Yeah. But then, like

(01:16:56):
you said, you just gotta goplaces that you know, places that that
that that that that the door isopen for that. I guess who was
that, Let's say somebody connected tothe audience. I don't know, is

(01:17:19):
that GP maybe? Thank god,that's they probably ending out of service.
So mm hmm. Well let's talkabout and then we're gonna get off of
here shortly. Has everybody got togo to work. We can resume it

(01:17:40):
actually next week. But let's talkabout receiving love through toxicity? What else
going on? I mean, comeon, we must admit. I know
you've all seen it, you knowfor a while, that we're toxic was
trending on the internet. Toxic,toxic, toxic, that some people alive

(01:18:06):
it was trending. Yes, Christianand Blue Face are a very ignorant representation
of that. It's very embarrassing thatit's a very toxic relationship. And you
know, people be thinking that crazinessis cute. Why do we crave?

(01:18:29):
Why do some of us I usewe loosely crave this whole toxic? What
is this thing about this toxicity?I mean because I see it. Even
when I was younger, I noticedthat the girls that was busting out dudes
windows, they was going crazy forthey they love messing with them type of
chicks. I don't know what itis. So what does this toxic mess
about? Well, I think toxicityis just the other side of the coin,

(01:18:58):
especially when it comes to to towomen who's so quick to show their
dislike. Right, that's that's whereyou're most of the toxic stuff come come
from. But on the other sideis passionate, Right, these individuals are
extremely passionate. You know, thefireworks in the bedroom and and you know

(01:19:18):
the all of that that that stuff. So that's the other side to it.
So I think these people these quoteunquote toxic because if you look at
even Krishna and Blue Face they gota part a lot, you know what
I mean. So, but youknow which kind of which kind of speaks
to the fact that, you know, everything that they do involves some some

(01:19:44):
form of fireworks being good or bad. So I think that that's just those
type of individuals. But you know, and then it's kind of like sensationalized.
You know, it's on social media. You know, they don't leave
a lot to be mad nation.It's it's all for us to consume.
But you know, I think theother type of love is more common.

(01:20:09):
This is kind of like, youknow, the sensationalized stuff for us to
you know, be entertained by it. So I don't think toxicity is that
common, you know. I mean, do I see it, sure,
but I do. Well, yeah, but I think that even even if
we examine our own lives, youknow, it's a lot more normal relationships

(01:20:33):
than it is toxic. But youknow, I get, I get what
you're saying in terms of you know, I think it is on a rise
because toxic people aren't quiet. Theyare not quiet at all. They are
very loud, they are very outthere they I mean, it's all in
the streets. I remember when wewere younger, you know, you know,

(01:20:54):
the toxic relationships where you on again, off again. I mean,
these people, it was all outin the public with it. You know,
they was all on the sidewalk.They was all, I don't call
it our name, Mary. Iremember that. Yeah, let's think about

(01:21:26):
it. That just one, youknow what I mean, like if if
you But but you know, they'revery entertaining. I will say that that
they're very entertaining, you know whatI mean. They're definitely definitely somebody's gonna
die, you know what I mean. They're gonna be like like she tripped
me out when she said what shesaid. She said, uh, She's
like, I had three abortions,but I'm gonna keep this one. And

(01:21:47):
it was just in the Cavalier conversation, like just a cavalier. I'm like,
God, damn, you know whati mean, just to just to
cavalierly just say you know what I'msaying, Okay, I had you know,
I didn't bought it three of hiskids, but I'm having this one.
He's just sitting right there like okay, yeah, cool, you know,
and it's in It's bizarre, butyou gotta imagine like relationships like that,

(01:22:09):
there's not a lot that they don'tknow about it, so the order
that they haven't done, you know. And again it's good for entertainment,
but gotta be terrible for the mentalyou know what I mean. So you
don't that's that's absolutely correct. Creationterrible for the menth for mental health.
Toxic relationships, but it's they're harmful, Okay, that's just that's the basis

(01:22:36):
of what a toxic relationship is.Yeah, it's harmful. It's harmful to
the two people involved or however manypeople are involved, and they're harmful to
anybody else who's affected by this relationship, the kids or who you know,
whoever else, right, you know, again, social media puts a whole

(01:23:03):
spin on on these things, andyou know, the term is overused a
lot, but toxic relationships are harmfuland it's not funny. And I grew
up I agree though that if you'rein a relationship and it's children involved,
you're doing more harm to them kidsthat you're doing to each other. And

(01:23:24):
that's just it. That's just sayingincredible that it's no goal for that.
I agree. I grew up withI'm the product of a toxic relationship.
So yeah, yeah, very interesting. Well, you know, I think

(01:23:45):
I think just well, I know, I I know we are too,
you know, but I think thatmost of us especially, it's just because
of our position in this country.You know, we we we have a
very intimate relationship with toxicity. Youknow, look at us and and so
called white people. You know,we've had a very toxic relationship. So

(01:24:08):
we have intimate knowledge of it.I think that's kind of more or less
wild. We're so yeah, toa to an interesting degree, we're kind
of drawn to it a little bitbecause it's it's something familiar in it,
but harmful still definitely damage damaging.Yeah, but yeah, I think that,

(01:24:30):
you know, because it's big.I think fall communities have it,
but for us, ours is justway worse, you know, way worse.
You look at Bobby and Whitney.I mean, we got so many
examples, it's unbelievable, you know. And yeah, yeah, it's it's
for us, it's entertainment, itreally is, you know. For for
us, it's it's it's something toyou know, think about it. You

(01:24:51):
know, we you know, alot of times this is water cooler conversation
at work. You know, thetoxics that we know about this co worker
and that co worker. You know, you know, we this is weak.
You know what is it? Itwas back in the day, the
stories. You know, our momsused to watch it. You know,

(01:25:13):
it was a lot of you know, they call it drama, but that
stuff that was some toxic chick.We were seeing, you know what I
mean, putting out guns and knobson you know what I mean. I
remember watching Days of Our Lives andI'm like, damn, this is crazy.
You know what i mean, thesewp is going nuts. But you
know, our moms was just drawnto it, you know what I mean.
You know, Dynasty in Dallas.I remember all of that stuff.

(01:25:34):
You know, we just have avery intimate, close relationship to toxic stuff
and we keep it steady, dietof it. You know it also dud.
It ain't no fun when the rabbitgot to done seeing it, seeing
somebody else go through it. LikeI said, we're talking about it,

(01:25:54):
were laughing. But then when youget to going to buy yourselve on the
relationships, not how you want tosimp people with somebody. Now you oh
my god, what the full Igot myself into? It was all good.
It's the wicked though. One manall at all exactly. But I
think it's important to note too.I think brand did you bring it up
the passion So to feel that rush, that adrenaline rush that comes through in

(01:26:19):
a toxic dynamic, it's like itprobably gives the same It's probably like a
dopamine hit, just as much aslove is. So man, I'm gonna
tell you, I'm being honest withyou. That toxic shit I find.
I look up and find myself inthis toxic dynamic and listen and all honesty,

(01:26:45):
I burst out laughing. I laughedso hard, like every time he
would say some crazy kit And Iknow it didn't help, but it's one
of those things you laughed at fromcrying because you like, this shit is
really fad like for real, Andso I think that speaks to it,
to what you guys were saying,like it's entertaining, Like you see people

(01:27:10):
you're like, oh my god,he just like you are stuff out.
Ah. It's funny, man,That stuff is really sad. It really
is. It's really unfortunate. Andbecause we have such like like you said,
Brandon, like we get that toxicshit, we get it, we
feel it, we know it,we know it too well yeah, I

(01:27:33):
was laughing. I'm not gonna lie. It was an uncomfortable laugh. It
really wasn't funny. I bust outlaughing, like you cannot be serious,
you cannot be serious right now?Well, y'all know once again I have
I got an issue rock Yello alwaysdon't never lets off forget it. D
like that crazy. I like alot, like a little bit of craziness

(01:27:57):
like Brandon was earlier. It's it'ssomething about that rush, especially the fireworks
in the bedroom part off. Yougot that. The crazy girls got to
exist up for real. They do, they do, they do. It
levels to the craziness though that.Yeah, you don't just like stupid,

(01:28:17):
ignorant crazy. It's it's gotta becute crazy, like like busting on my
windows. It was nothing wrong withthe windows when it was a leading because
now you got me spend the moneyunnecessarily unnecessary money exactly. Yeah, you

(01:28:39):
know, but you don't get tosteer the dysfunction into one area that this
function is not going to only existin your bedroom. M M. This
is true, This is true.I gotta look at it like men think

(01:29:00):
you're talking to you know what I'msaying. But at this level says levels
that I'm gonna deal with when whenI when y'all level meter goes above my
boiling point, you got to goI'm not no, no, no,
no, no, thank you.It was fun, but you didn't went
to the hall other side of thespectrum of where were trying to go?

(01:29:21):
Man, you know what, LikeI said, I'm proud of that toxic
shit, and I do laugh atthat ignorance ship, but I could never
deal with it, uh in mylife. I know one day Virun and
I laugh about it. But mymom was here and she was sitting at
the table. This is just thisis very minute on the scale. But

(01:29:42):
it's just the fact that other peoplewas brought into this ignorance. And so
my dad comes to our side doorand he he walks past all of us
heads straights to my mama's. He'sgoing off on her, just going off
like and virus like, what inthe world it's just happened. And I'm
like, I mean, I don'thave no reaction to it, because it's

(01:30:04):
crazy to Tia tell you which listen, Tia tell you at the Bryants.
Anybody can get it. They don'tcare who they're like, they they could
have killed each other in front ofmy friends, and I wouldn't have flinched.
I'm just being honest, like Ididn't care. I wouldn't like,
y'all can't come over, these niggascrazy. I'd be like, yeah,
they're crazy, and we keep itmoving. I'm used to it. And

(01:30:29):
it's just it's interesting because neither oneof'em look like they would even go
there, you know what I mean. It's just it's just so bizarre,
you know. But I can andI but I can. I can understand,
I think because you know, Ithink for especially for us, that's
where the healing component comes in.You know, they're like all this talk
and this is completely separate, butyou know, I kind of follow the

(01:30:50):
the reparation stuff. And I'm justand I'm just bummed because I'm not hearing
a lot about mental health. AndI think that's probably the number one thing
this community needs the most is mentalhealth. I mean free mental health every
day, lunch, three times aday, you know, for free,

(01:31:13):
you know, whatever services you couldpossibly think of that you need, you
know, psychiatric, you know,therapeutic, you know, whatever whatever you
could possibly and and we don't andand I'm and I'm being serious about this
one. This is probably something thatshould be a part of most relationships in
the black community, is some sortof psychiatric services or or you know,

(01:31:35):
something that happened to do with mentalhealth, because I think a lot of
times we don't prioritize coping the rightway, uh and and as a result,
we kind of bleed on people whodidn't cut us. And you know
that that that you know snowballs intowindows getting bust out, and and you

(01:31:57):
know, people storming in other people'shouses and in them out in front of
france and family members. You knowwhat I mean. I think, you
know, if we would have learnedways to you know, resolve conflict in
a more amicable way as adults,will be more aligned, you know what
I mean. So, you know, especially when it comes to like g

(01:32:19):
GP and and co. You know, if this person whomever, the person
that's gonna be a long term personisn't having conversations, uh, surrounded by
about mental health, then you knowthis is somebody who's not serious about it,
you know, getting to the endof their life, you know,

(01:32:40):
in a good way. Okay,I don't okay when you say mental health,
I kind of got a problem withthat, like not with mental health,
because if anybody's watching, then youreally they have mental health issues.

(01:33:00):
Then I'm praying for you. Ihope you get over whatever whatever. I
just don't feel like everything and everythingand every answer is mental health. I
don't and not every time something happenand people that, oh my brain told
me to shoot them, No,I don't buy that shit. Every everybody

(01:33:21):
run into you know what I'm saying. Do you understand what I'm trying to
say? Sure, I mean that, but then something like that, that
would be schizophrenia. I'm talking aboutmore or less when when a lot of
the issues that we run into,especially for us as in our community,
these are very I wouldn't I wouldn'tsay my new but they're they're kind of

(01:33:43):
small, and our issue is ourconnection to them or our inability to cope
through certain situations, you know whatI mean. And a lot of times
there's a lot of injured people outhere who have been operating injured, and
you know, and because we're usedto it, this is that, you
know, the toxic thing. We'rejust used to it. You know.

(01:34:05):
Whereas other people's barometers, other communitiesbarometers, man a lot of the stuff
that we deal with, they wouldnever be able to handle, you know
what I mean. Like like,for instance, the cop that got jumped,
who had presence of mind not toshoot the dudes who jumped them over
here on Enjoy Road, Like thatstuff doesn't happen to other communities, you
know what I mean. But heprobably used to that. You know,

(01:34:28):
we couldn't blame that on mental health. These two boys. So you don't
think that they're crazy and that tookthe took the cop gun. You don't
think he could do you you don'tthink him boys crazy. I mean,
it's it's a level. It's acertain level of crazy. Or it could
be it could be whatever peels theywas on or whatever drugs they was on

(01:34:53):
at the time. That's all I'msaying. One important factor to think about
is just like any other form ofhealth and wellness, there's a continuum.
Okay, so black you're talking about, you know, we can't blame everything

(01:35:16):
on mental health. And like it'sone thing to think in terms of a
person meeting criteria for a mental healthdiagnosis, a specific diagnosis, okay,
but mental wellness is on a continuum, and some people are struggling a lot.

(01:35:42):
So I think what Brandon was tryingto say too, like Black when
he was talking about like mental healthpeople. Okay, I've said it before.
I've never seen a successful marriage inmy life, including my own parents.
But no, but wiring In andRock Keller Ready and well you know
they they they are never a successfulmarriage. And I'd be like, well,

(01:36:12):
that's why, I mean, that'swhy I'm the way I am with
female. That would be of metrying to say on my mentally, I
was mentally fucked up by never seeingthat in life. But I mean I
can't blame that on that though,because like just like some people didn't grow
up I'm fatherable and they became afather that made them be the best father
that they could beat. You knowwhat I'm saying, right, m Sometimes

(01:36:34):
sometimes you can learn, Yeah,sometimes you can. You can use the
examples that you have and learn hownot to be right. I hear that
a lot people are saying like,oh, you know my parents were doing

(01:36:54):
this, and at Rockyo, forexample, there are certain things about her
parents relationship or even their parenting styleswhere she said I will never do this
thing right. So I mean it'sall I'll be a learning experience for people.

(01:37:15):
But you know, like I sometimeswhen i'm I'm talking with people or
you know, interacting with people thatwork, I'll even mentioned Okay, well
is there an idea of fatherhood thatmaybe you even saw on TV? Is
there anything that you can pull from? Everybody grew up with Bill Cosby.

(01:37:44):
I'm about to say to be youknow, we not we not definitely not
the co but I'm but growing up, we had we had people to We
had Carl Winslow, We did haveany examples. Yeah, we's good.
Yeah, we had we had JamesEvans, we had good example the father.

(01:38:08):
Yeah. To get back that,we don't got that none where it
ain't no positive like male family shows, the show is a strong black father
the lead. No more the one. No. Every every show now is
about the parents. Are the boredand pleading families and all this type of

(01:38:31):
stuff. Where is the original strongblack family shows? That I think the
last one that we did have andI don't know how strong that was Blackish,
wasn't it? Yeah, like ablack family That's exactly what I was
thinking of you. Yeah, yeah, that was it. That was the
last one. And then they hadwhat's that family reunion with tea from sister

(01:38:58):
Sister and a Loretta the Vine seeingher husband and kids moved in with Yeah,
that was on Netflix. I meanthat's over now, but they had
that. I think it'd be likea lot of black shows that we probably
don't even be hipto that come onBounce all the time. Oh no,
that was Anthony Anderson. My bad. Yeah, the black is but I

(01:39:20):
think on Bounced, we are wethere? Yeah? What that was?
That was cute? Everybody hate ChrisOh Terry Crew, Yeah he was.
He was on the TV there yetOh yeah yeah yeah, Oh I ain't

(01:39:41):
see that. I saw the onewith him and the teacher Campbell. That
was my wife and kids. Nonot not Damion dam Wayne, Yeah,
Damian Wayne's and the teacher what whatwhat is the teacher? Arnold? Shea
arnold that everybody? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you

(01:40:03):
know what. To be honest,Tiffany, would you say the way you
do one thing is how you doeverything. I think we also have to
take back in accountability because even withthese shows, right, it's to me
and I'm not counting anybody's pockets,and really as us too, we could
take our our money with whatever ourthe frivolous activities and put it together.

(01:40:27):
But you would think, like DameDash and Tyler Perry and Lee Daniels and
what's the other Byron Allen, likeall these people that have media I excut
they will all get together and reallyput their resources together and make their own
type of Marvel Fields. We situp and we argue about our presence and

(01:40:49):
as as superheroes and various different things. But why are we taking charge of
these things? It's like we've gotto start taking charge of our relations relationships
are media presence. We have totake in charge of how we want to
be represented in the world. Man, I'm about to get like Kanye on

(01:41:09):
this thing. Man, you wantto know the answer to that, We're
gonna have to do a whole nothershow. I mean, because we can
name names. It's a reason,it's a it's a legitimate reason. It's
a reason is fear. I'll it'smore. It's more controlled than that.
This because social media I will probablycall the great equalizer. But the only

(01:41:33):
thing that undermined it is the factthat this algorithm exists, uh that certain
content is promoted over others and thencertain content is monetized, so that that's
where the control aspect comes in.But uh, in terms of content,
content could could be created, andall of it is out there. But

(01:41:56):
in terms of you know, thead dollars in the marketing dollars being put
behind it to you know, putit in front of the eyes that that
is a very well controlled machine.You know, even this platform that we're
on, it's it's controlled by avery small group with the very specific you
know, modus operandi, and itis not to you know, recreate another

(01:42:20):
you know, a society, especiallyin the black community, where after Bill
Cosby, the Cosby Show came out, you had the largest Black enrollment in
college. Well why because college wasyou know, hugely represented at that time,

(01:42:40):
you know, Martin and you knoweverybody had their you know, the
HBCUs shirts and things that nature spelledman Howard, you know all of these
ye yeah, the different world,you know, and you know, and
that was the biggest group or thelargest uh uh influx of college attendees in

(01:43:01):
the Black community ever. You know. And now you wonder why, you
know, it's a seventy thirty nowyou know, seventy percent of college attendees
are female where thirty percent of male. But you know, if we wanted
to change that, you know,we would have to fight a very massive
machine and just have to say thatit's insurmountable. It's just that if we're

(01:43:21):
looking to you know, Oprah Winfreyor a Jay Z or a ditty to
you know, get you know,come pull their resources, then we're in
trouble. We spend and that's whatI'm saying, we would do it.
I just said as an example.You know, I used them because people
recognize those names and it's easy totalk in that way. But like even

(01:43:44):
like what's his name, Isaac Caseyhas a platform, I'm a part of
it. I invested in it fanbase, but we have a large We
were very impatient. We want theinstantaneous. So even though you're gonna always
fight this algorithm them, in yourmind, you still think that I have
a better chance on here than tojust be patient and put all my content

(01:44:05):
on fan base and redirect people.It's really us, It's what I'm saying.
It's there's a lot of black peopleout here with platforms with with black
net, like a Netflix type platforms. It's all type of stuff we should
be having our own servers, ourown algorithms, our own especially when we
created that these things, they cameinto a possibility by us. We should

(01:44:29):
not be taking over. It's we'rejust not doing it correct. You know
what I'm saying. I'm not goingto This is not even about a race
thing, to be honest, becauseI'm not just going to relinquish something of
mine to you for what? Whywould I do that? Why? Why
would I do that? This isworking for me. Why would I just

(01:44:51):
hand it over to you? Whywould I do that? For what reason?
Because I like you? How oftendo people just do stuff because they
want to be a good person.Most people do things because they have some
kind of vested interests as to whythey're doing it. So again, if
we don't have a vested interest,it's just like even with relate and this

(01:45:14):
is about relationship, but even withthat, we don't even know what the
fuck we want with relationships. Wedon't know what we want. But we're
mad at so many people and everything. It's it's the men, it's the
women, it's this, it's that, it's everything else but us. And
to go and to go with youwould say, well, both y'all just
said though, basically by having avested interests. Going back to a random

(01:45:35):
with that about the seventy thirty aboutcollege students, there's seventy b and three
men and thirty biing mail. Andit's sad today that the numbers are broke
up like that. And I wouldsay out of the thirty percent, twenty
percent of the mails that are goingto school because when you put a ball
and they hand up some type ofone, they create magic with it.
The other ten percent is those thosethose men who want to go to school

(01:45:56):
to the better they tell education mewhy, But the other they rested they
have a best interest something other thangoing to school, whether it be the
streets, the glamor they feel fromthe street, sports, the fans,
dollars, they feel like they cango out here and make by getting a
job at the Big three somewhere oryou know what I'm saying, or something
like that. And it's like that, but it goes back to also us

(01:46:19):
not having enough role models in placeto teach the US old kids that there's
other options out there. You knowwhat I'm saying, Oh yeah, oh
yeah. So it's you know,I'm thankful to both branded and buyer.
They are building their presence on TikTokshowing what they do for trades, because

(01:46:41):
I think young men really need toinvest time in trades. And if you're
not going to trades, and weneed to be focusing on becoming doctors and
attorneys and stuff that we need.We need to we need these resources as
a people. We need to bebanning together. I mean, think about
it. The idea your friend groupwith one friend would be a doctor,

(01:47:02):
one friend would be a lawyer,one friend would be an engineer, one
friend would be a contractor, aveterinarian, and so and so. Imagine
if you had that type of peopleas your friend group. Imagine how powerful
that is. We always have eachother no matter what issue comes about.
We can rely on one another,and we're not We have to move more

(01:47:25):
intentionally, you know, And Imean be there. That reminds I need
to bring my son over there tohighlight both of y'all two because my own
son, he went away to schoolfor a year and try the college thing,
came back. He end up gettinga job at GM and I knew
it from the gate. I mean, he my son. I think I
thought his mom, he's not goingback to school when he start getting that

(01:47:46):
money. But I've always had apresence in my son life. But sometimes
that these kids need to hear fromother people. Like now that he's in
the planet, and I'm like this, would you decide you're gonna do?
Bro, I'm like, you needto get into sear trade, don't you
know what I'm saying. Don't don'tdon't rely on that line to be making
your money. Get into the skilledtrade stuff. So I so I need
to bring motor. They can talkto y'all and see some other successful black

(01:48:11):
man who took the skilled trade rodeor whatever. It ain't always about school.
I'm not magically by not going backto school, but let's make it
easy. You're a way for youto get this money though. Well that's
an important thing the village too.Yeah, and Jim and Jim has a
good you know, electric journeyman's program, so you know it's it makes no

(01:48:34):
sense for any young man not tobe in there. I'm to be get
getting the skill that that's they canthat that's you know that that's transferable where
they can do it anywhere on anyplace in any continent, you know what
I mean. So you know that. That's why I kind of that's why

(01:48:56):
I made the switch. You know, I saw that you know, telling
communications was shifting into you know,a more concentrated area, so you know,
I went into the age back route. You know. Sure, you
know it was easy because I alwayshad Byron in my ear about it.
But you know, it just makessense. You know, something is always
gonna need to be heated, andsomething's always gonna need to be cool,

(01:49:18):
and you're gonna need experts in thatin that field. So you know,
even for you guys, you know, everybody out here, I believe,
you know, in the infrastructure jobor infrastructure industry in some way of form
or or another that you know,has transferable skills that is above your your
normal you know, running the mealjobs so or skill set. But you

(01:49:43):
know, yeah, man, i'dbe I'd love to talk to him.
I was able to we was ableto get quite a few young men to
go into the skill trade route,you know what I mean. It's only
it doesn't take a lot of time. And you know, I I've always
said this when it came to youknow, especially black men, you know,

(01:50:04):
or black young men, we havea duty as men to maintain the
world that our forefathers built and thatand I feel like that that's a duty,
that that's just something that you knowthat comes with the right of passage
that you know, they in ain a way passed the torch to us.
They may may not have sat usdown and said, hey, this

(01:50:26):
is what's needed, but when youlook at our crumbling roads and you look
at our overtax electrical grid, it'sbecause there's not enough individuals who shifted into
those industries to be able to advancethem. And that's why where we find
ourselves at right now. But wehave to change that conversation and and make

(01:50:47):
it more relatable and digestible to them, to make it so they understand that,
man, now this is just this, This makes dollars and sense,
you know. So yeah, Ibelieve that every irrespective of where you're going,
you need to be you need tohave a skill or some sort of

(01:51:08):
skill, you know, electrician,lumb or something. You need to have
that in your bag. And yeah, you can still become an architect.
Yeah, can you can still youknow, go into you know it,
but you should definitely be able toif something happened, you can pick up
a hammer and help, right,And like I I've never sugarcoated nothing with

(01:51:30):
my kids about my life and myexperiences and stuff like that. Like I
tell us, like I told him, I'm saying, you're nineteen years old
right now in a plant, ina position to make all this money at
an early eight when I was nineteenand your uncles that that are my my
brother's honor. I don't want toknow what we was doing we was nineteen
years old because like for us,when we were growing up, the twins

(01:51:55):
no corries, other courries. Wehad big homies in the that we looked
up to, and then we kindof we kind of raised each other.
We we we through trial and fireof each of doing stupid shit. It's
how we came up, Ain't youknow what I'm saying? Yea, And
by the grace of God and ourgrandmother's prayers and fights some other people's prayers,

(01:52:16):
we made it to where we areto day. But like to say,
I mean, but nah, I'mavailable that my kids have this village
of men that I've grown in respectand different aspects of what they do in
life. They can talk to mykids as well. It's not just hearing
my voice, but you're hearing somebodyelse, like you know what I'm saying,
Like, okay, dad, Andhe ain't just talking because he's my

(01:52:36):
dad. He talking because he carriedhe's been around him. Like I tell
my sons all the time. Ibumped my head enough when I was younger,
so y'all don't have to. Imean, I'm sure I was telling
my daughter like like, uh,if you do it not, you ain't
gotta worry about it later on.Just get it out the way. You

(01:53:00):
don't have to go to college,but you're gonna do something. So she
ends up getting into the nursing programand and and she found out that she'd
like it. She's damn they loveit. And she kicking ass, and
you know we have way through.That's good. I plant an a NiFe,
man. I'm saying she'll be whenshe graduates, she'll be nineteen year

(01:53:23):
old. A nineteen year old LPN. You know what I'm saying. She
gets she get her a job orwhatever. That job is gonna send her
back to school for another year tobecome a ri I'm right. I'm like,
you'd be writing your own ticket.You're gonna be a young girl,
a twenty year old doing whatever thehell you want to do. You know

(01:53:44):
what I'm saying. If you doit not you're gonna party and play in
your twenties. But you already gotyour career. It's already solidified. You
know what you're doing. You goanywhere and do it right. Trap on
Nursing makes good money, well,she said, traveling. Yeah, we
this has been delightful. We can'tgive it all to them in one session.

(01:54:06):
This is session number three. Sessionnumber four will be next Sunday.
Hopefully we can all get on time. Whoever is coming in here. We
can be on time Sunday. Yeah. Things do happen though, so I
do understand that. But we'll beon time. So thanks to everybody watching

(01:54:28):
this. Make sure you tell yourfamily and friends about us. This is
the Black Love Group. Chat withanybody before we sign off with you,
guys like to sign off individually.I see y'all. I'm going to bed,
good night, all right. Thenyou want to say anything Brandon for

(01:54:53):
we out? Oh no, no, thank thanks for inviting me. I
definitely will be back next Sunday.Okay, all right, and we are
out of here.

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