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October 7, 2024 • 34 mins
Beginning the show with some analysis from Steve Kornacki of MSNBC on voter registration in the state of Pennsylvania favoring Republicans, Ryan still believes the 2024 Presidential election will come down to the Keystone State - and more specifically, the working class outside of Philadelphia's 'collar counties,' like the Billy Joel song 'Allentown' and Wilkes-Barre/Scranton.

Rob Dawson of KOA News reports live from downtown Denver as pro-Palestine supporters rally on the one-year mark commemorating October 7th and the Hamas attacks which killed almost 1,200 Israelis. Why are they there? Why are they doing this? And why on THIS day?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of the reasons, besides its size, that this is
of such an interest to Trump and the Republicans.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
There's a trend here.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're looking at the Trump era, You're looking at party
registration in Pennsylvania, and look at this.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
When Donald Trump first came on the scene. You know,
back in.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Twenty sixteen, the Democratic advantage in party registration in Pennsylvania
was over nine hundred thousand votes twenty twenty. Look now
in twenty twenty four, that's been cut almost in two
thirds there, down to about three hundred and thirty thousand.
There's been a little bit of a boost for Democrats
since Kamala Harris took over in registration, but the big
picture trend here has been more competitive for Republicans in

(00:35):
party registration. So where are we looking in Pennsylvania. What's
going to decide this state? Well, believe it or not,
in the Trump era, there are only ten counties in
the entire state where Democrats perform better now than they
did before Trump came along. However, some of these counties
are very big. Focus on these four Kyler counties right

(00:55):
outside Philadelphia, Delaware, Chester, Montgomery, Bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
A fifth of the vote statewide is.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Going to come out of there, and then from Trump's standpoint,
there's a lot of rural counties in the state that
have gotten rid, or small rural counties.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
But let's talk about this collection here.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Some people call this the Latino Belt of Pennsylvania. These
are counties that have some small, mid size cities with
rapidly growing Latino populations. And we've been talking about Trump
improving relative to twenty twenty and twenty sixteen among Hispanic voters.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
And that's Steve Kornaki from MSNBC with some analysis from
over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Ryan Schuling live back with you here on.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
This Monday edition, October seventh, one year since the attacks
on Israel by Jamas that ignited a war that is
still ongoing. There are hostages that are unaccounted for, some
of whom may well.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Be deceased, some may still be.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Alive but are being treated horribly in an a war
by Israel that is completely justified.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And Benjamin Netanyahook, who continues to.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Take heat from the far left, and Kamala Harris giving
remarks right now, trying to bifurcate that situation. Let's get
a taste of that and then I'll come back with
some more commentaries.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Amidst the darkness, As the late Rabbi Jonathan Sachs said,
a people that can walk through the valley of the
shadow of death and still rejoice is a people that
cannot be defeated by any force or fear. That is

(02:29):
why today we plant a pomegranate tree, which in Judaism
is a symbol of hope and righteousness. So for years
to come, this pomegranate tree will stand here, spreading its
roots and growing stronger, to remind future Vice Presidents of

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the United States, their families, and all who pass through
these grounds not only of the horror of October, but
the strength and the endurance of the Jewish people. It
will remind us all not to abandon the goal of peace, dignity,

(03:13):
and security for all. And it will remind us all
to always have faith. Thank you, and I will now
turn it over to the second gentleman.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
My husband does well. We'll leave Doug m Hoff out
of this for various reasons. Although Kamala Harris is married
to Doug m Hoff, who pretends to practice the Jewish faith,
and what we heard from Kamala Harris is an extension
of what the Biden administration has tried to do with this,
which is to try to play both sides against the middle.

(03:48):
The problem with that is there is no middle. Hamas
is evil in and of itself. Evil must be defeated,
and that is the only path forward to the peace
the prospecs already the stability that she speaks of, this
war continues as long as Hamas is allowed to exist.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
They must be eradicated.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
And what that means is a war, and a war
in which Israel is victorious. There is no stalemate, there
is no compromise, There is no truce to be drawn
here because Hamas and many of the people in Gaza
who are Palestinians that support Hamas want from the river
to the sea to be fact, to come to a

(04:33):
sort of vindication for the Palestinian people that eradicates Israel
and denies its very existence. When those on the left
try to mask it in terms of oh no, no,
I'm not anti Semitic, I'm just anti Zionist. What they
mean by that, even if they don't know it because
they're ignorant and don't study the situation, is to be

(04:55):
anti Zionist is to be anti Israel, meaning they are
anti the existence of Israel, that the State of Israel
does not have a right to exist, that the Jewish
people who were awarded that state in nineteen forty eight
do not have a right to that homeland, and that
the Palestinian people should have a right from the river
to the sea to eradicate a Jewish presence in that region.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's not acceptable.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
And so only total defeat of Hamas is going to
rectify this situation, something that Biden administration either doesn't understand
or doesn't want to face because they still have votes
in dearborn Michigan to win. And so any statement that
Kamala Harris gives along these lines rings hollow.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
It will also feed into something you'll hear in just.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
A little bit another edition of Deep Thoughts, and I
have two of those for you today from over the weekend.
Back to what Steve Kornaki was saying about Pennsylvania. If
we take the polling at face value, which I don't,
but I do believe that the polling right now shows
a best case scenario, a best case scenario for Kamala
Harris and a worst case scenario for Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So we'll just follow along with that for the time being.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
In the poll of polls Real Clear Politics rolling average,
Harris is up by about two two point one. In
recent polling released today nationally, which is not as important
as the state by state battleground swing state polling, but
I and I Tip has Harris plus three forty nine
forty six. She has not surmounted fifty percent. That's kind

(06:25):
of a magic number in polling, which might be beyond
a threshold of margin of error. That is not where
Harris resides in that poll. And in Yahoo News, which
is not a right leaning poll nationally, it has the
race tied Harris Trump at forty seven. A reminder, if
Trump even comes close to a tie in the national
popular vote, he wins because he won when Hillary Clinton

(06:48):
won the national popular vote by about two and he
narrowly lost when Joe Biden perried the national popular vote
by four and a half, and the polling showed Joe
Biden going into the November elections of twenty twenty with
a lead around eight points in the national polling average.
Simply put, the number that we're seeing right now for
Kamala Harris is not high enough. Trump has narrow polling

(07:12):
margin advantages in Georgia in Arizona, and in North Carolina. Interestingly,
the most precarious of those three appears to be North Carolina,
which is intriguing all the further when you look at
the aftermath of Helene and the absolutely botched response to
it that we're watching unfold in real time. But all
of those are within the margin of era under two

(07:33):
point leads for Trump. All polling that we've seen in
each of the previous two elections twenty sixteen and twenty
twenty have either oversampled Democrats or have come back to
the mean favoring Trump. There are very few polls out
there that overestimated Trump, and therefore the actual finish was
a number that went in either Hillary Clinton's direction or

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Joe Biden's direction. I anticipate more of the same for
Kamala Harris, who has narrow advantages, the most of which,
again surprisingly so, because Trump was doing extremely well in
Nevada state. He has not won either time in twenty
sixteen or twenty twenty, Trump was doing very well against
Biden Nevada. Harris is performing better in the polling in Nevada.

(08:17):
Her lead is just over one. Again, poll of polls
real clear plout to Politics average just over one Nevada,
under one in both Michigan and Wisconsin. And I'm happy
to report that in my home state of Michigan, the
poll trending, ever so slightly, has been moving toward Donald Trump.
I believe Donald Trump will win Michigan. I think it'll

(08:39):
be close. I can't predict it, but I have a
strong belief, much more so than I did in twenty twenty,
that he will win that. Now, if we play that out,
you can do this on your own at two seventy
to win dot com on the electoral college map, if
we lean these three states toward Trump, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina,
and for the sake of this conversation and exercise, we

(09:00):
lean Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan toward Harris, then it all comes
down to Pennsylvania. And even so, under the electoral math
that I just painted out, which is a tie on
the real clear politics rolling average in Pennsylvania, a tie.
Trump just had a very emotional and I thought powerful
appearance in Butler, Pennsylvania, with Elon Musk on site as well.

(09:23):
One hundred thousand plus showed up for this rally, in
which Trump said on site as I was saying, and
continued his speech and continued his rally there in Butler.
What Steve Kornaky just pointed out, I think this might
come down to a Billy Joel song Allentown when you
look at the urban yet working class surrounding areas around Pittsburgh,

(09:49):
around Philadelphia. When you get outside of the suburban landscape
of those collar counties that Karnaki was talking about, when
you go to the likes of Wilkesbury Scranton would be
another area which Shoe Biden had some strength because he
claims to hail from there, Unlike Delaware originally he claims
to hail from Wilkesbury in Scranton, Pennsylvania. That's kind of

(10:10):
a combined community there in eastern Pennsylvania. Throughout the rural
counties of Pennsylvania, you may have seen Scott Presler, and
I'm trying to get him on the air, but he's
really busy, and I appreciate the work that he's doing
in going through and canvass singing all the counties of Pennsylvania,
flipping lusern County and a couple of others that he's

(10:30):
been working on. In addition, in eastern Pennsylvania, Scott Presler
has been able to flip and I think he's had
a lot to do with this. It's not just him,
but he's spearheaded this effort among the Amish and others
that are in outlining rural areas. Donald Trump, his campaign
in that state, needs to scare up as many of
those hard to find nook and cranny votes in outlying

(10:52):
rural areas that he possibly can, because in my view,
and I've said this for weeks, this race will come
down to Pennsylvania. There's a strong chance Trump might win
that state and not carry Michigan or Wisconsin. I think
Pennsylvania is the domino that falls first. I believe it
is the watershed Bellweather state in this election. And the

(11:16):
research by Nate Silver shows as much that either candidate,
should they claim Pennsylvania, they would likely have in the
percentages of a mid nineties chance of winning the election
outright in the electoral college. So the working class of
Pennsylvania watching this Trump rally, I believe in Butler, I

(11:36):
was inspired. I was moved nearly to tears in the
presentation of this in Trump's presence there to show strength
and then in what we're seeing in the media from.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
You read tea leaves to a degree, but you're also
picking up on cues the media is panicking on behalf
of Kamala Harris. They're trying to kind of play, you know,
bait and switch. Here a little shell game with regard
to eyes on the prize. With the FEMA response to
the wake of Hurricane Helene going through the panhandle of Florida,

(12:08):
southeastern Georgia, clipping South Carolina, western North Carolina Asheville most notably,
and eastern Tennessee, the response has been lackluster. To put
it mildly, Joe Biden was on a beach in Rehoboth,
Delaware for days before he issued any kind of response,
and then he held it in the White House briefing

(12:29):
room for the first time during his presidency, mind you,
and he interrupted a Kambala Harris appearance in Detroit, Michigan.
That's another Deep Thoughts edition that I'll be bringing to
you a little bit later on. But there's a pattern
here that you can observe. The first of this I'm
going to play for you is Dana Bash trying to

(12:49):
carry water in curry favor with the Biden Harris administration
in the Harris campaign making a ridiculous claim here, and
this was not alone and not isolated to her, as
Laura Trump was looking to call her out.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
I'll just say, for one second, you have migrants being
housed in luxury hotels in New York City.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Fact, we have paid so much money.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
From our tax dollars into the crisis.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
That didn't need to happen.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Fact, we could redirect money to help people immediately on
the ground in north of Laura, they are probably going.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
To have that up.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
That's a separate date, that's a separate trans money. That's
a separate trunch of money. I want you to listen to.
I want you to migrant christ I want you to
listen to what every American it is a big problem.
But that has nothing to do with that has nothing
to do with the people in your home state right.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Now, has everything to do with it.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
This is a moronic argument that carries very little water.
Pun intended for Dana Bash or anybody on the left.
This idiotic notion that there's this what she said, a
separate trunch of FEMA money, of FEMA dollars available.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Laura Trump was exactly right what she stated covering her.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Eric Adams of New York City will attest to the
fact they're overrun with migrants and they are being housed
in luxury hotels, getting government incentives at the federal, state
local levels to provide that space for illegals who are
in this country ostensibly seeking asylum. The veracity of those
asylum claims have not been determined. There is no chance

(14:22):
that all of those asylum claims are legitimate. There's every
chance that we've seen it that many of these people
so called asylum seekers are criminals, are murderers, our rapists
who have come across the border undetected by our border patrol,
which is in and of itself overwhelmed DHS, which is
not doing its job. Alejandro Mayorcus who has been impeached

(14:44):
and should be again and should be removed and will
be if Donald Trump wins, and I'd be curious to
see even if Kamala Harris wins, if she chooses to
quietly replace him, because he's a disaster. But these are
the same people Dana Bash and others making the claim
that just because the Biden administration unfroze assets of the

(15:04):
Islamic Republic of Iran for the Mullas for the Iyatola
there that in no way affects their ability to fund
their nuclear research program, in which they're trying to develop
a nuclear bomb, which is asinine.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Money is fungible. You either have it or you don't,
and when.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
You do, it doesn't matter how it's allocated or the
tranches that you're claiming are separate.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Every FEMA dollar that's spent on an illegal is a
dollar that could have been spent that is not being
spent on somebody recovering from the wake of Hurricane Helene
in western North Carolina. Fact, if a dollar had not
been allocated for that purpose for the migrants in New
York City, in Denver, or anywhere else in the United States,
that money would be available for the disaster relief funds

(15:51):
that are desperately needed in western North Carolina. In eastern Tennessee,
funds that Alejandro Mayorcis himself have claimed are gone.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
They're no longer there. They're not available.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
All these billions of dollars earmarked by Congress for the
war in Ukraine. I mapped out how many dollars per
Ukrainian resident is being spent in that war, only to
battle to a stalemate with no clear plan or path
for victory. Compared to the seven hundred and fifty dollars
being offered to individuals who have lost everything after the

(16:24):
Path of Helene over four thousand dollars a person in Ukraine.
That is absolutely insane. And Dana Bash was not alone.
Here's Senator Tom Cotton doing a fantastic job of pushing
back on Kristen Welker meet the press making the exact
same claim that Dana Bash did. They got their marching orders,

(16:46):
they got their talking points in the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
My broader question to you, I think is about this misinformation.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do you think this is a time to.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Put falsehoods aside, like the idea that FEMA funds are
being redirected to migrants, which.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Is just not true.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
What it is true that FEMA and the Department of
Homeland Security have been spending billions of dollars on migrants.
I understand some people say they're separate funds, but we
just passed the short term spending bill. It's very common
for the administration to come and ask for permission to
move money between funds, especially to prepare for emergencies. And second,
I would note that this administration seems to have no

(17:21):
problem finding money when they want to spend it on
their priorities. When they need hundreds of billions of dollars
to pay off student loans for graduate students and gender
studies programs, they somehow find it. When it's trying to
get helicopters to deliver food and water and cellular service
and life saving medicine into these mountain valleys, they somehow
can't seem to find the money.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Here's the point, and I take this very personally as
a taxpayer myself, and you should too. Our American citizens
are American taxpayers who fund this government. Either come first
or they don't. That is a binary choice. And if
we don't have enough money to help the good people
of rural western North Carolina, who might not be Harris

(18:04):
Biden voters, but we have the funds to help perpetuate
a war in Ukraine, or we have the funds to
give to illegals who come to this country across our border,
breaking our laws, not being taxpayers, not being citizens of
this country, not even offering their loyalty to this country

(18:27):
to become an American citizen, they haven't done that, yet
no matter what, no matter their intention, we have to
take care of our own citizens first.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
That is not cold hearted.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
That is what every other country on this planet should
be doing as well, and the smart ones are. We
cannot let our own citizens languish and suffer at the
expense of funding people who should not be here in
the first place. And that is another reason why Trump
must win. In twenty nine days a time out, there

(18:59):
are protest on this October seventh happening downtown Denver.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Rob Dawson is there. He joins us.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Next Joe Biden did not take a female relief money
to use to use on migrants. FEMA regional administrators have
been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate to
coordinate available federal support from FEMA and other federal agencies.
Funding is also available through FEMA's Emergency Food and Shelter

(19:28):
Program to eligible local governments and not non for profit organizations.
Upon requests to support humanitarian relief for migrant Kareean.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
John Pierre blatantly contradicting herself, which is not unusual, but
in this instance telling FEMA money was redirected for migrants
to assist cities that did not have the budget or
the funding to accommodate these unexpected arrivals.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's the kindest way I could put it. But it's accurate.
And whether you're a government, a agency, or you're running
your economy.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
At home, you're budgeting for what you have at the
end of the month, at the end of the year,
what you have to spend on.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
If you have spent dollar X on case y, that
is a dollar that you no longer have that can
no longer be spent on case Z. This is not
that difficult to grasp.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
But Kristen Welker, Meet the Press, Dana Bash CNN and
others are claiming, no, no, no, no, there's a separate tranch.
There's a tranch of funding that was specifically or marked
and reserved for migrants and have nothing to do with
the FEMA funding over here that was supposed to go
to the North Carolinians who are trying to rebuild their lives.

(20:47):
We've got, you know, seven hundred and fifty dollars for them,
for each individual. This is not a coherent argument that
one can even make. You either have the money or
you don't. It's either been spent or it hasn't. Yeah,
I don't care what trunche it is.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's all FEMA.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And if the Biden administration had decided, you know what,
no vacancy at the end, we have no dollars to
allocate for asylum seekers. We can't take any others. In
every presidential administration, you can go back to Harry Truman
or even before that has at their own discretion, a
decision to make as to whether or not asylum seekers

(21:29):
can come into the country. Many times in our history
Truman included right after World War Two, when our economy
had just spent millions upon millions of dollars funding a
war on the European continent and in the Far East.
We weren't taking on new asylum seekers, not many. There

(21:51):
were some exceptions made, but it was closed down for
the most part. And nobody was claiming that Harry Truman
was a xenophobic president of the time. He was doing
what was best for the United States of America and
for our citizens.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
We were rebuilding from a war.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
So guess what can't be quite as generous as we
might be when times are booming. And where is it
written in the Magna Carta or anywhere else that the
United States it's our responsibility to take on all comers.
No matter where you hail from, no matter where your
allegiances lie, no matter what your culture is, you can

(22:28):
come here to this melting pot.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, there's a bargain, there's a deal to be struck.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I say this as a first generation American on my
mom's side, very proud of that, very lucky because of
that that my grandparents were allowed in this country.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
But they made a deal. They wanted to become Americans.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
They wanted to learn English, they wanted to acclimate to
our society, our culture. They wanted to work and contribute
to the American economy. They wanted to become Americans. That's
a deal. That's a bargain. That's not a gift.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's not a gift that doesn't come without some condition.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
It is very conditional whether or not you from a
foreign nation are allowed into our land to become one
of our citizens.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
It's doable, it's feasible, but you have no right to
expect it. And I think we've gotten away from that.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
And I think a lot of you who might be
legal immigrants yourselves, who followed the rules and did things
the right way, who came here from Mexico or Cuba
or Venezuela residing in Aurora, that you went through the
proper process because you respected American laws.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
And I've got to say it.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I used to think he was an extremist, maybe even
a wacko, but doctor Michael Savage said it best borders, language, culture.
If we don't have boulders borders, If we don't expect newcomers,
as they've been so dubbed by the left, to embrace
our culture and customs, to learn our language, to assimilate

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into our society, to obey our laws starting with how
they get here, then we are lawless. That we are
not a nation, that we are just a land without borders,
which is a lot of what the left wants. In
many instances. They want to live out the song imagined
by John Lennon. Imagine there's no countries.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's easy if you.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Can, well, it's chaos if you can. We are the
United States of America. We are a nation of laws.
And if the first act of a person is to
come into this country to completely disregarding, disrespecting our immigration laws,
what is to make that person.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Obey any other law that's on our books?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Here? It starts with a deal, and it's more than
a handshake. It's an agreement, it's an accord. It's a
contract that every individual makes. And I am the most
pro immigration person that you will ever meet, on the
writer or otherwise. I want people here who want to
be productive citizens, who want to contribute to our society,

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but not those who are here with their hands out
expecting us taxpayers of this country to just support them,
add infinitum, with no end in sight, with no expectation
of any contribution in return. Hell no, I'm not making
that deal, and I'm betting many of you out there
aren't doing it either.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's not xenophobic, that's smart. That's pro America.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
And I want immigrants here who are pro America.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Do you know how much pride.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Both of my grandparents, who were Serbian nationals, had in
this country for all the years that they lived here.
It was significant and it was something to behold. It
was something that if you have experienced this in your
own lives, that you understand. I think Rob Dawson's trying
to call, so we're going to take a break here,

(25:59):
We're going to come back with him and deep thoughts
by Vice President Kamala Harris. You're listening to Ryan Schuling Live,
and this is six thirty KOW and now deep thoughts
by Vice President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Our number is number thirty two today.

Speaker 8 (26:24):
We got thirty two days until the election. So thirty
two days, thirty two days, Okay, we got some business
to do.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
We got some business to do, all right.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
Thirty two days, and we know we will do it.
And and this is going to be a very tight
race until the very end. This is gonna be a
very tight race until the very end.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
We are the underdog, and we know we have some
hard work ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh boy, that prompt went out and if you could
see the.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Look, the look on her face, thirty two she said
many times.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's twenty nine today, though that was from Friday in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Kamala Harris, off script, not great, Ryan Schuling live back
with you, six point thirty k I and a guy
that knows how to go off script.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Koa's Rob Dawson joining us.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
There's a lot going on, Rob reporting live on this
one year since the attacks of October seventh.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Very loud there, Rob, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (27:42):
Okay? So we're here with another gurp of broadtesters. I'd
say probably about two hundred or so.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
We are back to where we started. The something started
at one o'clock and stapers on yet the street, and
there were two stacks all away at market and spare
stopped in the middle of the intersection. Traffic was rerouted,
and now they are in the middle of the street
again wine Coup in seventeenth where they are right now, and.

Speaker 9 (28:11):
They continue to have their familiar chance that we heard
in the springtime. But they are in the middle of
the street right now.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
So Rob, what are we to deduct from the fact
that on this one year since the attacks of October seventh,
in which Thomas went across the border into Israel and
killed nearly twelve hundred Israeli civilians, including peaceful music goers
at a concert, including elderly and children, that were slashed
and burned and raped and murdered and taken hostage. Why

(28:42):
this response, why on this day?

Speaker 9 (28:45):
Well, I think you know, there's an air of celebration
in the terms of the pamphlets that they sent out
or tweets that they sent out at promoting us. But
it was interesting their seam this has come from the springtime. Here,
their theme has been that Jews are on the side

(29:06):
of them. We actually had a protester who is Jewish
got up on the microphone and she talked about how
Palestinians are just like Jews because they both want freedom
from an imperialist think including where she said she did

(29:27):
apologize to the hostages, but she said, I'm sorry that
you have to go through this. I hope you are
at your home. You shouldn't have been through this in
the first place. But she wishes that they would not
be living next to an open air prison. So it
almost made it seem like it's a backhand content that
there might have been some accepting it, and I was

(29:47):
trying to follow that, but she says there are plenty
of Jews that support this cause.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Here Rob Dawson Koe News, he's in downtown Denver joining
us live on this one year since the October seventh,
the ten pro Palestinian protesters gathering. There are a couple
of questions along those lines, Rob, Are there any notable
names like Elizabeth Epps or Tim Hernandez or are there
lawmakers people that you recognize there? And also are there

(30:13):
any counter protests that are like pro Israel?

Speaker 9 (30:17):
So I haven't seen any leaders that I would recognize,
although I did recommend a student leader, Paul Nelton from
the area campus. He was at this one. He is
not in an organizational role. As I've described to you before.
They have a safety team people with a neon green

(30:38):
wristbands that block the street in advance of the protests
coming through it.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
And then.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
What also happens is, you know, so he's there. He
talked to me a little bit and he believes that
the inconvenience that people are suffering from is the practice
of what cal Stinians are going through. That's a familiar
thing too. And your second question, there have been two
counter protesters who are saying that you're celebrating the death
of Jews. Those that's getting of the parade protests rather

(31:05):
in the march, and he has sense left.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Finally, Rob, where does this protest go from here? What
are the organizers and the protesters themselves hoping comes out
of this event today?

Speaker 9 (31:18):
Well, I think you know, they continuing their their mantra
is they want the message to get out. They want
people to be inconvenient so that they can tell their
leaders to stop giving money and aid to Israel. With
the us with all of our vaxed relationships with that country.

(31:41):
But other than that, they I think that they they
embraced to shut it down at astray. You have to
set it down to make it different. And it really
has been an annoyance to a lot of people, especially
the ones that are blocking traffic. A lot of honking
and frustrated honking, laying on the corn at these inner
sections as these protesters stop, kind.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Of one follow up then rob along those lines.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
And to how it's affecting traffic patterns you had mentioned
had been shut down, maybe rerouted. Our Denver police involved.
Do these protesters have a permit? Do they have a
right to shut down these streets or don't they care?

Speaker 9 (32:17):
I haven't laid eyes on any sort of permit that
I've been asking in. Apparently they do, and the Denver
police was prepared for this to happen. The only thing
that I'm wondering is I don't know if the protesters
changed the root, because at times it seemed like the
police were behind in blocking off the roads, and they're
always seemed to be. In the last fifteen minutes, cars
that were trying to turn around to get out of

(32:37):
the way because they were not prepared for what was coming,
especially back in behind Union Station in Wallata streets. So
they they have changed the route. I don't know, no
arrest police have been, you know, Tepper sparing people. This
has been a peaceful in that regard. But I don't
know if the protesters plans changed slightly.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, we'll see if they change from here.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Rob Dawson, Kowa News Are reporter live on the ground
there downtown Denver in this pro Palestinian protest one year
after the Hamas attacks on Israel. Rob, if there are
any updates, please notify Kelly. We'll get you back on
the air and hour number two. All right, all right, Greg,
Rob Dawston. He also sent me a photo here. And
this is part of the same kind of culture of

(33:21):
the hard left and the squad Sinus says, divest from Israel.
This is part of the boycott, divest and sanction Israel
wants to isolate Israel's a nation. But bottom line, these
people don't want Israel to exist.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And there's only one purpose or.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Reason as to why a so called pro Palestinian protester
would be out on this day, on this day, October seventh,
commemorating twenty twenty three, when nearly twelve hundred Jewish civilians
innocence died were murdered on this day. It's disgusting in
my view. And I'm hoping to talk to my good

(33:57):
friend Russ Waldman, who was the one that confronted Tim
hernandez Is one year ago today, hoping to have him
on the program tomorrow. He's at a news conference in
New York City, but I'm sure he'll have plenty to
say your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I want to hear what you.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Have to say on this and anything else we've discussed,
or something I haven't gotten to yet. Five seven seven
three nine, Start those texts, Ryan the Great, Christiantoto, Hollywood
Intoto dot Com.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
We have so much to cover.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
A new movie out depicting Donald Trump in his younger
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