June 24, 2025 • 52 mins
As we quickly approach 60 days until the 2025 Ohio State football season, the news continues to flow, because the offseason news never sleeps. We’re back to discuss the headlines since our last podcast, starting off with recruiting news with Cincere Johnson committing to the Buckeyes. We don’t normally dive too deeply into recruiting on this podcast, but it was a noteworthy addition, and how do you ignore a name like that?
We have had a couple of new kickoff times announced for this fall since our last show, and neither of them will start at noon, which should make some folks happy, although these aren’t the marquee matchups of the fall. We now know when the Grambling and Ohio University games will start.
The legendary Lee Corso will don mascot headgear one more time and that will take place at the Horseshoe on Aug. 30. The College Gameday crew will visit Columbus on the day the Buckeyes host the Texas Longhorns, and Corso will call it a career after the broadcast. Here’s to hoping he puts the Brutus Buckeye head on one more time. We talk about Corso’s career a bit and give some statistics about Gameday at Ohio State.
Ohio Stadium will get some renovations that will make wealthy people happy and earn more money for the university, but it will affect the marching band’s location. The new suites will probably be nice, but your hosts will not likely ever see the inside of one.
Some future OSU schedules have been adjusted, and we’ve got the skinny on that, even though everyone will probably forget those changes by the time they roll around.
Finally, we paid tribute to the late, great Jim Marshall, who passed away recently. Marshall may always be remembered for picking up a fumble and running the wrong way, but he had a terrific Ohio State career, and it’s one worth remembering.
We are in our monthly offseason schedule, but we could have more than one show a month depending on how much news there is. We will return to our weekly schedule in August, as camp opens and we get you ready for the 2025 Ohio State football season.We would love to hear from you, so please reach out with your feedback via email at silverbulletspod@gmail.com. Any questions directed toward us will be answered on our next show.
Be sure to subscribe, rate, review, share, and follow the show over on Twitter at @SilvrBulletsPod.
As always, thanks for listening!
0:21 - We discuss the Cincere Johnson commitment and the latest kickoff times announced for the 2025 season.
20:04 - Lee Corso will end his storied Gameday career at Ohio State this August, and the Horseshoe will have some work done.
29:03 - Tweaks to future Ohio State schedules, and we remember OSU great Jim Marshall.
We have had a couple of new kickoff times announced for this fall since our last show, and neither of them will start at noon, which should make some folks happy, although these aren’t the marquee matchups of the fall. We now know when the Grambling and Ohio University games will start.
The legendary Lee Corso will don mascot headgear one more time and that will take place at the Horseshoe on Aug. 30. The College Gameday crew will visit Columbus on the day the Buckeyes host the Texas Longhorns, and Corso will call it a career after the broadcast. Here’s to hoping he puts the Brutus Buckeye head on one more time. We talk about Corso’s career a bit and give some statistics about Gameday at Ohio State.
Ohio Stadium will get some renovations that will make wealthy people happy and earn more money for the university, but it will affect the marching band’s location. The new suites will probably be nice, but your hosts will not likely ever see the inside of one.
Some future OSU schedules have been adjusted, and we’ve got the skinny on that, even though everyone will probably forget those changes by the time they roll around.
Finally, we paid tribute to the late, great Jim Marshall, who passed away recently. Marshall may always be remembered for picking up a fumble and running the wrong way, but he had a terrific Ohio State career, and it’s one worth remembering.
We are in our monthly offseason schedule, but we could have more than one show a month depending on how much news there is. We will return to our weekly schedule in August, as camp opens and we get you ready for the 2025 Ohio State football season.We would love to hear from you, so please reach out with your feedback via email at silverbulletspod@gmail.com. Any questions directed toward us will be answered on our next show.
Be sure to subscribe, rate, review, share, and follow the show over on Twitter at @SilvrBulletsPod.
As always, thanks for listening!
0:21 - We discuss the Cincere Johnson commitment and the latest kickoff times announced for the 2025 season.
20:04 - Lee Corso will end his storied Gameday career at Ohio State this August, and the Horseshoe will have some work done.
29:03 - Tweaks to future Ohio State schedules, and we remember OSU great Jim Marshall.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
O again everybody, it is time once again for the
Silver Bullets podcast. I'm Michael Citrow and I'm chip Minnick.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Chip.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We have made it to June, and that means we've
only got one more month of summer schedule on this
podcast before we return in August to our weekly regular routine.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's Summer's going.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
By, Summer's going by. It's for the month of June
for Ohio State. It's primarily focused around recruiting, but we're
getting closer and closer to big ten media days that'll.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Be in July.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And like you said, Michael, once we get to August
and then we have more practice news and updates that
we can update people on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, Chip, I know you're getting ready to go
on a nice vacation with the family, but before you do,
we wanted to get this podcast recorded a little earlier
in the month and what we've been doing the last
couple of months. But it's fortuitous that you and I
are recording today because a big news today as we
record this on the nineteenth, is that Buck guys have
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landed a Glenville Star Sincere Johnson linebacker and that's it's
pretty good news on the recruiting trail for James Lornidis.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
It is, and it's one of these things where when
it comes to Glenville, you know, historically, ever since Jim Trussell,
I mean, like the Glenville pipeline has been tremendous for
Ohio State. So no reason to believe that Sincere Johnson
will not just add to that tremendous legacy of Glenville
players who have contributed as Buckeyes.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And that first name is sure to know, people are
gonna have a lot of fun with that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Oh certainly, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I was hoping that they would land Luke Waffle because
that would be another name we could have a lot
of fun with.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It would have been, But it's one of these things where,
I mean, we make no bones about it when it
comes to recruiting. I mean, it's more of just kind
of what you read on social media in terms of
who may be verbally committing, who may be interested, those
kind of things. And then when last night there were
(02:36):
reports that supposedly Luke Waffle was reconsidering Ohio State and
then as of today it turned out to be USC
and wish nothing but the best for that young man.
The decision, it sounds to me was primarily motivated by
nil money.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So if that is what he.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
If he prioritized that, like I said a moment ago,
all the best to them.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, well, people sign for different reasons with different schools,
and it just just not going to be great to
uh to have not have that name to banner about.
It would have been a fun one. But waffling, exactly
is what the crystal balls have been doing the last
few days on Luke Waffle. And I don't think that
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anybody should get any credit for a crystal ball prediction
that they make within a few days of the signing
day or whoever commits, because at that point you've just
gotten a hold of the family and you just learned,
so you know, now it's not a crystal ball anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's not a prediction.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's just one of these things where just the different
conversations that are that are had it. I guess I
kind of I don't want to say that, you know,
speaking on just for myself, I'm kind of glad that
my interest in recruiting is just more of like you said,
you know, the announcement, Okay, of the verbal commitments of
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Sincere Johnson. That's that's all great, looking forward to the
fact that he's going to be adding his name to
other Glenville players who have become buck Eyes. I usually
don't get too wrapped up and in terms of like
how many stars and you know all that, because the
(04:31):
reality is, and I'm not trying to I'm not trying
to minimize the work that recruiting analysts do for the
various publications. It's that until the players actually put their
name and officially our buck Eyes, and then we start
hearing about how they're doing in winter conditioning and how
(04:52):
they're doing in spring ball, and then we've talked about
it on previous episodes. The Black Striper Moval, I really don't.
It's just one of these things where like all of
the recruiting analysis goes out the window as soon as
they step on campus, you know what I mean, Like
they have to they have to compete against players just
as good, if not better than them. So that's kind
(05:14):
of why it's it's not that I want to reiterate,
it's not that I don't care, it's just that I
kind of look at it. It's like, once they're officially
buck eyes. That's when I really start to pay closer
attention to the kind of where they may possibly fit
within the within a depth chart.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, you and I have talked many times about the
unsigning day, who who signed their letters and fax the
men they're still faxing, yep. But ultimately, when it comes
down to recruiting, you and I don't follow it closely
for many reasons. But one of the reasons is who
has the time. Another one of those reasons is it
really kind of comes down to, you know, does the
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player go to the go to the right situation where
they're going to be successful? You know, how how open
to the coaching are they? How good are the coaches
at developing of talent? You know, you all the time
see low star or even walk on guys who excel.
A lot of times, you see five star busts. It's
not an exact science. And you know how how these
(06:14):
kids handle being away from home and their first taste
of big time college football.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It can vary wildly.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So you know, I have no problem with anybody who
follows recruiting and enjoys that, but man.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's just not for me.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Right well, I think you hit it right on the
head when you talked about the fact that there are
guys that are lower rated that become stars, guys that
are higher rated that don't necessarily it doesn't necessarily translate
to the field. And I look at it this way,
and it's just one of these things where the NFL
(06:53):
Draft they talk about this ad nauseum. And again I
watch the NFL Draft or a three day pero, but
it's one of these things where the stories of this
guy being a third round draft choice or a fifth
round draft choice or whatever it may be, and eventually
becoming a superstar. My point is is that the NFL
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invests millions of dollars per team in the way that
they evaluate, and they still get it wrong because it
isn't it's inexact science. So you're going to tell me
that at the lower level with high school players who,
let's face it, like you said, you know, when it
comes to you know, eighteen years old, coming out of
(07:36):
different programs, the level of competition is not always the
same around the country. And that's not even to talk
about the strength and conditioning programs or the fact that
these young men have not necessarily had any kind of
detailed nutrition plans at their various schools. Like I said,
(07:57):
I just think it's kind of interesting to see that
Ohio State, all right, Well, like they've got a verbal
commitment from a linebacker, just using since here Johnson as
an example today. That's great, all right, So all right,
so they've got you know, when, like you said, like
when it comes to signing day, we talk about it,
but it's usually like, okay, well, how many linebackers or
how many offensive linemen or whatever it might be. We
(08:19):
kind of, you know, we look at it more from
the big picture rather than okay, well this guy is
definitely the is going to be the superstar because you
and I don't know, and the coaches, they they may
have a belief that they have a pretty good idea
as to who's going to be able to immediately contribute,
but until these guys show up on campus and start competing,
they really don't know either.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you and I would have never probably we would
have thought even if somebody as heralded as Jeremiah Smith,
you and I probably would have had a hard time
believing as a freshman he'd just come in and dominate
like that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh right, I mean the best.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The reason why I was probably excited about Jeremiah Smith
more so last year, And you're right, I had never
anticipated him being able to dominate. Like you just said,
the way he did last season is because I and
then the gentleman's name escapes me. But I remember reading
an article from somebody who had been following Florida high
(09:20):
school football for let's just say, like the last sixty years,
and at one point he said that Jeremiah Smith, in
his humble opinion, was one of the three best players
that he had seen come out of the state of
Florida over the last fifty years. So when you start
thinking about just the cher volume of talent that the
(09:41):
state of Florida produces year in year out, that got
me excited. And then when he did arrive on campus
and the word just kind of started to trickle out
about how he was, how he was performing, and the
drills and the player and he got his black striper mooved,
(10:02):
and even the Big Ten Network the twenty twenty four
spring game, they had a little blurb talking about, Hey,
this guy is legitimately could be like one of the best,
if not the best Ohio state wide receiver to ever
do it that you know, it gets you excited, and
then we just saw we saw the evidence of it
(10:23):
with our own eyes when the games really mattered.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, his black stripe was halfway off when he got here.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well, I mean the fact that the fact that he
started as a true freshman speaks a lot. You know,
It's like there are certain I mean again kind of
showing our age, but it's one of these things where
there are certain times and again you know it kind
of you know, Archie Griffin preceded us, but you know
he didn't start his first game as a true freshman,
and he you know, he came in and contributed as
(10:53):
a freshman and never looked back. And but like the
guys that that you and I kind of when when
you know, just speaking, you know, thinking about like Chris
Spielman or Chris Carter or you know, back in the nineties,
like Orlando Pace as a as a trough freshman to
start at left tackle, that just speaks volumes about this
(11:15):
kind of the sheer physical presence and talent that that
Orlando Pace had to be able to start on the
offensive line. That speaks a lot. So, you know, and
then Maurice Clarette in the two thousand and two National
championship year, So there are guys that come in, but yeah,
Jeremiah Smith is certainly kind of a rare exception to
be that dominant at wide receiver. And again we have
(11:38):
something to look forward to, at least for the next
couple of years before he takes his.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Talents to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Absolutely, all right, Chip, let's turn our attention toward game times,
some game times and since our last show, and this
is good news for those who hate the big nude Saturday.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So the last time we did speak the Texas game
there was it was one of those things where you know,
we did, you know, talk about the the fact that
Ohio State had asked Texas to move the game to
Sunday and Texas said no thanks, and and we were
(12:21):
both of the mindset that, okay, that was not necessarily
a bad thing because college football should be played on Saturday.
So we've known that that Texas is going to be
that that noon game. The other games and and the
Michigan game, you know, has always been has always been
on noon. So that game, even though it's going to
be in ann Arbor, Uh, we know that's going to be.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
A noon game.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
The other two games that that were announced since the
last time we spoke, and I'm going to tell you
that that I kind of a little bit of a surprise,
and I'll explain my rationale here in a moment. The
Grambling game is going to be on the Big ten network.
That's the September six game. It's going to be a
three thirty pm kickoff, and then on September thirteenth, Ohio
(13:07):
University is going to be a seven pm kickoff on Peacock.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So a little bit of surprise. If this is just.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Me, I'm not trying to disparage either of these programs.
If I had been guessing out of the two, I
would have I really thought the Grambling game was going
to be the night game out of the two, simply
because Grambling, with its storied football history, also like a
(13:42):
certain program out of Columbus, Ohio that is very proud
not only its football team but also its marching band, Grambling,
the Grambling marching band.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I really thought that this was going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
An opportunity to kind of showcase both marching bands at
halftime under the lights.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
But that was that was just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, So the Ohio University game being at seven gives
me my first conflict of the fall chip. But at
least I feel pretty good about Ohio States chances in
that one. So I'll watch that one when I get
home from my other engagement. So we don't know yet
when the rest of the times will drop, but we'll
(14:24):
find them out.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But you know, there's been a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Of talk about noon kickoffs to the point where some
yahoo wanted to legislate it. And really, the Big Ten
has got to stop with the legislation stuff because it
came out today that you know, there there were a
faction in Michigan was trying to legislate whether or not
(14:47):
their universities had to disclose nil information and whether or
not they were compliant, and I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's just ridiculous. Just Big Ten knock it off.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, as far as you know the individual you're talking
about within the Ohio you know, a state representative actually
introduced legislation and it's not.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Going to go anywhere. I mean, it's all the formative.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And one of the things that I would hope Ohio
State fans if they didn't get a chance to actually
watch or listen to Ross Bjorke, one of the you
know that he had comments that kind of scoffed for
as politely as I can about the mere idea about okay,
(15:36):
you know the fact that you know, protesting the big
newon kickoffs, ross Byork made it abundantly clear that there
is very little to no wiggle room within the contract
that the Big Ten, all of the members including Ohio State,
very willingly and happily signed, and the idea of being
(15:59):
able to to adjust or ask for other kickoff times
it's not going to happen for the length of the contract.
So I think it's just all wasted energy. It's all,
like I said, it's all just kind of like for
performative performative acts of Okay, let me show you what
I can do as a state representative. But I mean
(16:21):
it's a waste of time. So I just think for
anyone out there who thinks that I'm all in favor
of big noon kickoffs.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I'm not. I just if anything, I just kind of I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
At the stage I recognize the things that I have
control over and the things that I do not, and
I am very happily able to admit that there are
so many things that are beyond my control.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So if I don't I do not put.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
A lot of considerable energy into getting angry over them.
And when Ohio State kicks off is one of those things.
I'm old enough to remember when Ohio State, if they
had a game on at noon, living in the Cleveland area,
that the game would not even be televised until at
(17:17):
least eleven hours after the fact. So I'd have to
wait to see any of the Ohio State games on
until eleven PM that night. I'm not kidding as a
as a you know, as a younger man. So that's
why when people, oh, I can't believe it's going to
be on Peacock or it's going to be it's like, hey,
there was a time when not every Ohio State game
(17:38):
was televised.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I remember it. I remember. I remember listening on
the radio to a game at Purdue where Mike tom
Zach threw the ball out of bounds to kill the
clock and it was fourth down. I remember this just
like like it was yesterday. It was devastating to young
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me that you didn't know what down it was and
they lost to Purdue in a close game, a game
they still had a chance to win.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it was annoying.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And but You're right, that were spoiled. These days, everything's
on TV. Everything is available.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You don't even have to be home.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You can DVR it, oh right, you know, you can
watch it on demand whatever you want to call it.
I guess DVRs all outdated now, but watch on demand
and I'm I'm good with a mixture. You have some
noon games, some three thirty games.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Some night games.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Okay, so this might be a little on the personal side.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So do you have Peacock because that is what the okay,
because that is that is the That is another thing
that again, you know, when I mentioned about like Ohio representatives,
you know, for for performance only, you know, like the
idea of trying to make sure that okay, well high
say games are not going to be on peacock. That
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that never went anywhere either. That was another thing where
it's like, Okay, the Ohio state and the other big
ten member institutions are very happily positing the very lucrative
checks that they're receiving from the networks. So just the
fact that you know, like the joke about okay, well,
you know, sign up for Peacock and don't forget you know,
(19:18):
you can cancel it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
After whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
To me, it's just you know, if there are people
out there that say, oh, I don't want to get peacock,
like you said, Michael, it's like, Okay, you can go
old school and listen to the listen to the dulcet
tones of of Jim Lache on the radio.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You can.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You can listen to it that way and it's not
going to cost you a thing.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
All right, Well, we've got more schedule stuff to talk about,
not for twenty twenty five, but for the future. We've
got other Ohio State news to get to and why
don't we do that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Right after this quick break and Chip, we are back.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And it is a time for us to discuss the
Texas game. I mean, because the Ohio State Texas game
is not only the first game of the season. It's
not only going to be a battle of two top
teams in the country college football championship potential, but it's
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also going to be the day we say goodbye to
the beloved Lee Corso.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, he's stepping down. It's going to be his final
game day show.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Corso.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The very first time that he ever wore a mascot's
headgear was I mean it's scary to think about. This
was almost thirty years ago when Ohio State and Penn
State played, and it's been kind of a his signature
move to you. That's how he would determine his selection
(20:57):
as to who he predicted was going to to win
the win the game, just kind of looking at some
notes that you know, by and large, you know, he's
you know, made four hundred and thirty mascot headgear selections.
He has a winning percentage of six sixty five overall
(21:17):
record two eighty six to one forty four. So I
mean it's it's he's gonna he's going to turn ninety.
God bless him. You know the fact that he has
has been doing something that he's obviously enjoyed and something
that he has popularized. Uh, you know the fact that
you know, college game Day. I realize now like we've
(21:39):
talked about Fox Big Noon and all that, that the
idea of college uh, the college pregame going you know
on the stadium, you know, ESPN College Game Day like
they were the ones who popularized it, and a big
aspect of that popularity is certainly attributed to Lee Corso.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So he'll be the he'll be the one of the
pickers there at in Columbus, and he's probably worn the
Brutus Buckeye had more than any other human that hasn't
been hired to portray Brutus Bluck guy.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's that's not a that's not a bad thing to
be associated with. I mean the fact that, like I said,
you know, he kind of you know it just you
know some of the some of the things that he's done.
I mean, and again you know he's he's ninety. I
think he kind of deserves a tremendous amount of latitude.
Some of the some of the things that that I've
(22:38):
enjoyed it, you know, obviously like the interaction between he
and Kirk kurb Street. I know that Kirk kurk Street
is very fond of orse. So the fact that you know,
he had a stroke that he recovered from his his
speech is not at one hundred percent, but the fact
that he's out there, I know Herbstreet takes a special
(23:01):
pride in kind of, you know, looking after him. So
like I said, I think he deserves a lot of latitude.
And sometimes he like one time he dropped an F
bomb on live television. I think he started firing. I
don't know if they were live bullets, but like I
can't remember. It must have been for like an Oklahoma
State game, and Herb Street was just like, oh my gosh,
(23:23):
you know kind of whatever. You know, It's like maybe
maybe I can't remember who it was, but I just
know like some of the some of the things you
can see, of course through the years, I mean you
could see that. I mean just how much affection that
Herb Street and the other people on that on that
team have for a lead course.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
So I think it's it's completely genuine.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean that was appointment viewing back in the day
when you know, there wasn't this glut of talking heads.
I mean ESPN back in the day. ESPN was very
innovative at their coverage, and you know, the original game
day experience was great. It's unwatchable to me now, but
right it used to be fantastic. Maybe I've just gotten
(24:07):
old and jaded.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Maybe it's still good to some people, but I can't
watch pregame shows anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I hope that he puts Brutus's head on one more time,
because if he picks Texas and Columbus. That's going to
be It's going to be a bummer. Do we know
how many times he's put Brutus's head on.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I'm looking at This is actually from the official Ohio
State buck guys dot com website. Lee Corso has selected
and worn Brutus Buckeye headgear a record forty five times.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Alabama is the next on the list with thirty eight.
He's worn sixty nine different school mascots headgear. This is
the sixty seventh time that Ohio State will be playing
at a game day locale, the.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Most among all schools.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They are still even though they are no longer an ESPN.
I don't want to a property, but the kind of
venue that ESPN would select now that ESPN has that
relationship with the SEC. Alabama second with sixty and then
Ohio State has the most game day victories in forty
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six and Ohio State has hosted game day the most.
This represents the twenty six This will be the twenty
six game day broadcast from Columbus. So obviously hoping for
a banner year for Ohio State in twenty twenty five.
The fact that they had the opportunity to host College
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Game Day last year when Tennessee came to town. But
this will be the last time that Ohio State fans
and college football fans will get the opportunity to see
Lee Corso don headgear.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah all right, jib, Let's turn our attention to Ohio Stadium,
the beloved horseshoe place that you and I would probably
want our ashes sprinkled after we, you know, pass into
their great end zone in the sky. Do you care
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that they are going to put nine new suites and
four hundred new chair backs in that end zone and
remove the you know, for premium seating, and that's going
to remove where the band is.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It doesn't bother me as much.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I know that there are a lot of people, you know,
we talked about, you know, people getting upset. I think
it's one of these things where they're just trying to
I say they. I think ross By Work and the
athletic department are trying to think of ways to enhance.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
The revenue. Let's call it what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean, it's a money grab.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So so it doesn't bother me because I freely admit
when I whenever I do go to a game Ohio
Stadium I'm not usually looking for a prestigious type seat environment.
You know, it's just if I can get in, and
you know, the better the seat, the you know, the
better the viewing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So be it.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Most of the time I'm up in see deck though,
you know, so it doesn't really bother me as much
as I know that it bothers others.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I like se deck because I like being able to
watch the routes develop.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And also it's all I can afford these days.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You know, the day, the days when I bought a
thirty dollars student ticket and got all the home games.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Those are long gone.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yes, yeah, that's not even I can tell you from
personal experience that I, my wife and I our son
who will be attending Ohio State, purchased his season tickets,
and it's more than three more than thirty dollars. I
can promise you that he didn't even get He didn't
even get the full He didn't even get the full
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season simply because, uh, you know, we talked earlier about
Grambling ohiou he just basically one of the big ten
games that are on the slate.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't know how they do it now.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I know, back in the day the first game at home,
students weren't back yet, so you had to buy that
ticket separately. But then after that all the other home
games were on a student ticket.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You got a.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Little square piece of cardboard and they physically took a
little hole puncher and played each game. You had to
you had to keep that the whole year. Yep, that
was probably some nice That was probably like on your
phone and you.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Just say it is it is. I can.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I can speak from the perspective of my daughter who
graduated and like I said, my son. So that's kind
of where you know, everything is all digital everything.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So well, I'm just sitting low in the end zone.
Hey have fun paying for those seats because their it's
not great from there.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
All right, let us move on to some tweaks to
the schedule coming up in the future. In the non
conference schedule in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty is
scary to.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Talk about twenty thirty, Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So the non conference schedule in twenty twenty nine is
going to be Navy, Charlotte and Youngstown States.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
There's a slate for you.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Maybe it'll be interesting. And then at twenty thirty there's
a TBD a Nevada and an at Georgia, which is intriguing.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It is, Yeah, the Nevada the news when it came
out was that essentially what you know when it came
to Nevada, that that was that game was originally scheduled
for twenty twenty nine, but they moved it back a
year to twenty thirty. So you know the fact that
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all they're they're going to be playing, you know, they're
going to be playing Nevada September seventh, twenty thirty, and
then right now, and I want to emphasize the words
right now, it's it's at Georgia September fourteenth. If I'm
sounding pessimistic, it's it's not. I'm not trying to be.
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It's just that there are so many reports coming out
about trying to get the college football playoff format established,
and the Big Ten and SEC are not able to
come to any kind of a consensus that there's some
concern that you know, games like the game at Georgia,
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games like even though we're talking about twenty nine and thirty.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Home and home against Bama seven, that those are that
those might be in jeopardy, that you know, like we
might see more of the games like the twenty twenty
nine schedule, you know, with Navy Charlotte and Youngsound State,
which I think is a mistake.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I really hope that's not the case, because what we've
seen this year is you can lose a game, even
two games, and it may not kill your shot at
a title. I mean, it's there's no It was one
thing when if you slipped up once you might not
get a shot at the playoffs. But now you get
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a shot, and I think you should be rewarded for it.
And I think you should schedule aggressively, and I think
you should test your team and see where they're at
early in the season so you know where they need
to go.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
If anything, what I'm hoping is, you know, when it
comes to.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Just the different.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Things that are being bandied about, and again, you know,
there are so many different rumors that you know it
really it would take too long to kind of go
through them. But one of the things that I had
seen in previous social media posts was that the Big
ten in SEC there was talk about kind of creating
a Big ten SEC non conference schedule format, and it
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wasn't as though like anything was you know, set in
stone like that, you know, like that like every team
was going to play, you know, like every top Big
ten was going to play every SEC. I think it
might be just kind of like okay, well, let's you know,
kind of randomize this h and I would presume.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
It would be kind of like a home and home, so.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
There there would be a legitimately good non conference game.
I have nothing against the MAC. I think it is
great to have teams like you know, Ohio, you like
this year, future years, Bowling Green, you know, in previous
years they played Miami, Ohio, et cetera. I have no
problem with helping to subsidize MAC teams.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I have made no.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I have made no bones about the fact that I'm
against any FCS opponent. It has nothing, it's nothing personal.
I just think that, you know, Ohio State goes out
and destroys a team seventy to nothing against an FCS opponent,
it just doesn't look just doesn't look good. So I'm
just kind of hoping that, you know, we're talking about
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twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty, that hopefully cooler heads prevail
and the Big ten and SEC can get this all
kind of sorted out and those games like at Georgia
in twenty thirty are still going to be on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I hope, so because that's my birthday.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Oh there you go, what a birthday president.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
They're good and I live considerably closer to Georgia than
I do Ohio.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Right now, well, I can only imagine, you know, the
fact that it would be you know, September. So I
mean you're talking it should be still beautiful weather, God,
it'll be ungodly.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I've never been I've never been to Athens for a game,
and that would be a fantastic experience.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
That's exactly it is that I just think that when
it comes to these kind of venues, that's what college
football needs. It's not it's not more of the you know,
because when when you talk about the fans being you know,
kind of you know, not involved, like like if anything,
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the on campus game experience that people saw last week
or last week last season when it came to Ohio
State posting Tennessee or you know, yeah, I'm just gonna
throw out there like Penn State hosting s.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
MU or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That that's exactly you know what college football needs more
of because they need better, better opponents and like notre
name hosting Indiana on that Friday night, I mean that
was tremendous. So it's like, I just think that the
Big Ten and SEC, let's let's let cooler heads prevail
and let's come up with that scheduling format and then
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if that means the elimination of the conference championship games,
because that's another thing that's been kind of bandied about
where it's like instead of necessarily you know, like the
you know, like the first and second place team playing
for the conference championship, but like that last weekend would
be like the third place team playing against the six
and the four and five, and whoever would win those
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would get those third and fourth Big Ten slots and
conversely the same kind of a thing in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I just think that right now the SEC doesn't want
to move off of playing only eight conference games.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
The Big Ten wants to play.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Nine, you know, like they all those different things are
being bandied about. So they got until December, but hopefully
they'll get this resolved before December, you know, before you know,
because it kind of you know, the future of the
college football Playoff is completely contingent on what the Big
Ten and SEC decide.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, and don't play mercer the week before your rivalry games.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, it's terrible all right. Oh, by the way, if
you're a wealthy person and you're going to spend big
money on a suite in twenty twenty six, your home
non conference schedule is Ball State and Kent State, So enjoy.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
And and and I and I just I'm not taking
back what I just said. I think, Okay, one one
in state, Max School.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I I that's fine.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
And I would say like there has to be some
kind of an equivalent. We're down in the SEC, that's fine,
you know. And but I just think that the better uh,
you know, matchups, that's what the college football fan deserves
and what they want.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
By the way, if you are going to I agree
with you about FCS.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But if you're going to do that, don't be chicken.
Go after South Dakota.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Okay, go go go get the Dakota schools, because then
you were going to have a fight on your hands.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, you're probably right, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So big news from the non conference schedules in the future. Uh,
chip let us discuss a former Buck Eye sadly passing
away since we last spoke Jim Marshall, who is sadly
probably better known for running the wrong way with the
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football fumble than he is for his outstanding defensive career
with the Vikings and his Pro Bowls and all of
the an insane amount of statistics that he racked up.
And a lot of people forget that he went to
Ohio State because it's been half a century.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, he he was, He played for what he hayes.
He was part of the nineteen fifty seven national championship team,
and like you said, you know, unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
He one of the.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Memorable moments of his NFL careers, you know, running the
wrong way and you know, but it's the fact that
I think the fact that he not only played for
Ohio State, he is one of the guys that.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
In turn of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I don't want to call him an iron man, but
the fact that he played, you know, so many years
with the with the Minnesota Vikings. He ranks fourth in
all time consecutive games in NFL history, you know, So
you know, he had a very lengthy career, you know,
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and you know, it's sad that he passed away, But yeah,
you know, he was definitely a major part of the
national championship team back in nineteen fifty seven, he was
eighty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, he was you know back in those days, not
only did he play so many games in a row,
those guys didn't come off the field.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
There wasn't right realization.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
If you were a starter, you basically played every down.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Right, Yeah, I mean he was part of He was
part of the Purple people eaters, you know, like the
you know, like of the nineteen seventy Minnesota Viking teams.
Now they you know, they never won a Super Bowl,
but you know, they played in four of them, you know,
and Jim Marshall was a big part of that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, notinly part of the fifty seven national championship. Won
Big Ten. He beat Michigan a couple of times. He
was All Big Ten Conference in nineteen fifty eight and
All American nineteen fifty eight. He scored both touchdowns in
a fourteen fourteen tie with number eight Purdue defensive player
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scored both touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
He one of the things that I remember reading about
Jim Marshall. We were talking about, like with Woody Hayes
is that beaucham Beckler, And it's one of the things
that always drives me nuts about Michigan fans that completely
either are ignorant of or they tried to gloss over
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the fact that Boucham Beckler was very open and candid
about the love and respect he had for Woody Hayes
and what Woody Hayes meant to him and his career.
In his autobiography, bo Schambeckler has a little anecdote about
when he first arrived in Columbus and was assigned to
go track down Jim Marshall, who was late for a
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studying session, and Jim Marshall as soon as soon as
said how coach Hayes wanted to see him like Jim Marshall, immediately,
you know, took off and went into whatever room that
Woody Hayes was in, and Bo Schambckler in the autobiography
made it abundantly clear he's like Woody Hayes didn't yell
(40:37):
at me, he said, he began tutoring him. And so
my point being is that, you know, like the the
idea of Jim Marshall being such a tremendous impact had
a tremendous impact, like you said, you know, scoring both touchdowns,
but you know the fact that he was considered one
of the best players in Ohio state history.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Now blocked the punt and returned that return to block
punt and also picked six in that game. You also,
I know this is a sore spot for Vikings fans
because they didn't win any of them, but he he
helped the Vikings reach four Super Bowls. That's not nothing, No,
I mean, that's the thing is.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I realized we're talking about the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
But you know, as we get further and further away
from how the Buffalo Bills, you know, went four years
in a row and didn't win, the fact that, yeah
they didn't win any of those Super Bowls, but they
went four years in a row, and how impressive that is,
you know, getting back to the Minnesota Vikings, the fact that,
yeah they didn't win any of the Super bowl they
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got there. So you know, as a as a lifelong Clevelander,
I'm still waiting, you know. You know, like there were
a couple of times, you know, when I was in
high school that I thought that the Browns were going
to do it and get to the Super Bowl and
very even further than from when I was in high school.
So the fact that Jim Marshall was a vital part
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of four Super Bowl teams with the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Like I said, he had a.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Lengthy NFL career, and he passed at the age of
eighty seven. So I'm sure you know so many tremendous
stories that people that knew him could probably share.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
All right, p Jim Marshall. All right.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I think the only thing we wanted to mention, the
only other thing I had on the docket, was that
Ohio State offered Jeremiah Smith's younger brother.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It's one of these things where you know, he, I
think is is being classified as an athlete.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
You know, his name is Angelo Smith. You know, he's
one of.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
These guys that you know, I put I'm gonna say
this as politely as as possible.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know, we talked earlier about not really.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Following recruiting as intently as other sites or other podcasters do.
But I think you would agree with me when I
say that, Okay, this is not being done just because
he's Jeremiah Smith's brother. I mean, like Angelo Smith, if
he warranted a scholarship offer. It certainly means that the
powers that be that make those determinations see something in
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him that they want him to be suiting up.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
For Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
So we'll just have to see how it all turns out.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, it wasn't nepotism for Nick Bosa to get an offer.
He was great and he was high on their board,
and that is the case in this case as well. Exactly,
all right, Trip, anything else we need to cover before
we get out of here for the month of June
and turn our attention forward to July. Our final once
(43:50):
a month, the show a month of this offseason.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I would just say that, you know, we've been talking
kind of about the recruiting. That's it's not that you know,
we don't have, you know, any interest in it. It's
more of okay, that's pretty much where the bulk of
the news is going to be coming from or Ohio
State is. You know, we talked about the verbal commitment
(44:16):
of Sincere Johnson that Ohio State this coming weekend will
be a very big recruiting weekend. And that's not to
imply that they won't have recruits coming to games, but
because they will. But Ohio State does the bulk of
their recruiting in the summertime. So if there's going to
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be news coming out, pay attention to the different social
media platforms because that's where you may see news of
future buck Eyes, you know, regardless of whether it's for
the like the twenty sixth class or or beyond that
you might be finding out about, you know, some players
that are going to be future buck Eyes.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
What are the percentage chants?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Would you say?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Then? In our next show in July, we will be
discussing NCAA sanctions for the University of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Oh wow, in years.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
It has been two years and they just had their
big meeting at the beginning of June. I would say,
not necessarily talking about sanctions, but I think that we
might be I'd say, less about sanctions and more about
some of the things that some of the news coming
out of those like I think, you know, like some
(45:33):
of the leaks, so to speak, about what was discussed
and what was alleged, some of the allegations of wrongdoing
by the University of Michigan. I think we'll have a
better understanding definitely in July.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Well, I hope that's the case.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
This has been a long drawn out thing, and it's there.
I feel like it's been deliberate, and I'm both NCAA's
part and Michigan's part. I mean, it's doesn't want to
have to discipline a national champion, uh like potentially vacate it.
I don't think that they have the guts to do it,
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even if this is deemed to be a very very
serious like from all you know, from all accounts that
we've heard, this would seem to be you know, lack
of institutional control, failure to monitor both of those things.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Very serious.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Like I think the last I think the last school
that had both of those was SMU.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
It's going to be interesting because, like you said, your
repeat defender, you know, all these kind of different things,
and so I I can't remember all the precise details,
but Wisconsin just recently was was hit with some recruiting
violations and one of the you know, one of the
(46:55):
assistants is I think, like he's not gonna be allowed
to leave campus or you know what. I but it
was like relatively minor in comparison to what has been
alleged to have taken place up at Michigan. And but
again the fact that like you said, you know, it's
pretty serious. I mean, the other Big Ten member institutions
want to see some heavy handed punishment handed down. It
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just remains to be seen if the NCAA is going
to do that.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah, all right, Chip, before you get out of here, what
you remind our listeners where they can find you and
your fine work on the internet.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I can be found on Twitter at Chipminic. Last name
spelled m I N N I c H. And I'm
a contributor to Buckeye Huddle dot com and recently started
also doing some occasional contributing to Saturday Glory dot com,
which kind of more.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Of a focus on the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
But yeah, I do some some writing and podcasting for
both of those, so look for if you follow.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Me on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I've been writing a series of articles for BUCKYE Huddle
focusing in on the twenty twenty five Big Ten teams
that Ohio State will not be facing this year. So,
for example, the article that will be coming out is
an article that looks at the twenty twenty five Oregon Ducks.
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So Ohio State if they do face Oregon would not
be until the Big Ten Championship Game or maybe a
college football playoff game, but we all know that they're
not on the schedule twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
You can find me on Twitter or blue Sky at
Mike thirty six fan, give me a follow, be happy
to have you along. You can also find my work
at Landgrant holy land dot com. And this week we
are looking at our biggest concerns of the for Ohio
State this season. And I wrote this week sorry last
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week as this has dropped a little bit later than
we normally record it.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Last week I wrote about the.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Breaking in another new quarterback. This would be the third
year in a row Hio State has had a first
year well not a first year starter first year started
at Ohio State, but a new quarterback starting for the
for the third consecutive year.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
That's very unusual.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Well, I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
If anything, let's let's hope that Ryan day that's going
to be. It's going to be interesting to see, you
know how it all shake shakes out. I mean right
now that you know Julians saying is the favorite, but
by no means says he have it locked up. But
how Ohio State they begin fall camp July thirty first,
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so hopefully it will not be long into August before
a answer is made at the quarterback position, because I
think it's going to be important that whoever gets the
job that they, you know, kind of feel the full
support of their coaches and teammates.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, and we will be hoping that it's a little
closer to Will Howard than what we had with the
with the one first year of Kyle McCord's career as
a starter. Nothing against Kyle McCord. His season was fine,
but fine at Ohio State doesn't really doesn't really sit
well with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
A lot of people were not.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Unhappy to see Kyle McCord go. I wasn't happy about
it because I knew he was going to be better
his second year.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Obviously he was.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
But obviously you can't you can't criticize what Will Howard
got done. All he did was go out and win
a national championship.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
And the early reports, and again they are early, and
it's it doesn't matter because they're just organized team activities.
But the early reports on Will Howard out of Pittsburgh
are very promising.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
And I knew they would be, and I also think
that they I think I think they definitely got Pittsburgh
Steeler type players with Will Howard and Jack Sawyer.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yes, looking forward to seeing both of them, believe it
or not, even though Line McCleary.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Orchard your Browns for years to come.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Yeah, exactly. Oh.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I did think it was nice of the Steelers too.
I thought it was a smart move. The Steelers went
out and got a veteran quarterback to back up Will Howard. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Well, and Will Howard I think is going to be
one of these guys that I think he's going to
be a Sponge. And you know, a preseason you don't
want to put too much stock into it, but I
am kind of excited to see how he looks when
those games are televised and we'll just see kind of
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where his NFL career goes.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
I have to stay ready because Aaron Rodgers is not
a young man.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
He is not all right.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Chip.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
You can also also tell our listeners on Twitter. You
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gmail dot com. We'd love to hear from you, so
thanks everybody for listening. We'll be back in July and
there's only one thing left for us to do, and
that's what we always do at the end of the show,
and that is to say the thing that all of
you guys say every college football season.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Go Bucks, Go Bucks.
O again everybody, it is time once again for the
Silver Bullets podcast. I'm Michael Citrow and I'm chip Minnick.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Chip.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We have made it to June, and that means we've
only got one more month of summer schedule on this
podcast before we return in August to our weekly regular routine.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's Summer's going.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
By, Summer's going by. It's for the month of June
for Ohio State. It's primarily focused around recruiting, but we're
getting closer and closer to big ten media days that'll.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Be in July.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And like you said, Michael, once we get to August
and then we have more practice news and updates that
we can update people on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, Chip, I know you're getting ready to go
on a nice vacation with the family, but before you do,
we wanted to get this podcast recorded a little earlier
in the month and what we've been doing the last
couple of months. But it's fortuitous that you and I
are recording today because a big news today as we
record this on the nineteenth, is that Buck guys have
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landed a Glenville Star Sincere Johnson linebacker and that's it's
pretty good news on the recruiting trail for James Lornidis.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
It is, and it's one of these things where when
it comes to Glenville, you know, historically, ever since Jim Trussell,
I mean, like the Glenville pipeline has been tremendous for
Ohio State. So no reason to believe that Sincere Johnson
will not just add to that tremendous legacy of Glenville
players who have contributed as Buckeyes.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And that first name is sure to know, people are
gonna have a lot of fun with that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Oh certainly, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I was hoping that they would land Luke Waffle because
that would be another name we could have a lot
of fun with.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It would have been, But it's one of these things where,
I mean, we make no bones about it when it
comes to recruiting. I mean, it's more of just kind
of what you read on social media in terms of
who may be verbally committing, who may be interested, those
kind of things. And then when last night there were
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reports that supposedly Luke Waffle was reconsidering Ohio State and
then as of today it turned out to be USC
and wish nothing but the best for that young man.
The decision, it sounds to me was primarily motivated by
nil money.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
So if that is what he.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
If he prioritized that, like I said a moment ago,
all the best to them.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, well, people sign for different reasons with different schools,
and it just just not going to be great to
uh to have not have that name to banner about.
It would have been a fun one. But waffling, exactly
is what the crystal balls have been doing the last
few days on Luke Waffle. And I don't think that
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anybody should get any credit for a crystal ball prediction
that they make within a few days of the signing
day or whoever commits, because at that point you've just
gotten a hold of the family and you just learned,
so you know, now it's not a crystal ball anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
It's not a prediction.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's just one of these things where just the different
conversations that are that are had it. I guess I
kind of I don't want to say that, you know,
speaking on just for myself, I'm kind of glad that
my interest in recruiting is just more of like you said,
you know, the announcement, Okay, of the verbal commitments of
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Sincere Johnson. That's that's all great, looking forward to the
fact that he's going to be adding his name to
other Glenville players who have become buck Eyes. I usually
don't get too wrapped up and in terms of like
how many stars and you know all that, because the
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reality is, and I'm not trying to I'm not trying
to minimize the work that recruiting analysts do for the
various publications. It's that until the players actually put their
name and officially our buck Eyes, and then we start
hearing about how they're doing in winter conditioning and how
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they're doing in spring ball, and then we've talked about
it on previous episodes. The Black Striper Moval, I really don't.
It's just one of these things where like all of
the recruiting analysis goes out the window as soon as
they step on campus, you know what I mean, Like
they have to they have to compete against players just
as good, if not better than them. So that's kind
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of why it's it's not that I want to reiterate,
it's not that I don't care, it's just that I
kind of look at it. It's like, once they're officially
buck eyes. That's when I really start to pay closer
attention to the kind of where they may possibly fit
within the within a depth chart.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, you and I have talked many times about the
unsigning day, who who signed their letters and fax the
men they're still faxing, yep. But ultimately, when it comes
down to recruiting, you and I don't follow it closely
for many reasons. But one of the reasons is who
has the time. Another one of those reasons is it
really kind of comes down to, you know, does the
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player go to the go to the right situation where
they're going to be successful? You know, how how open
to the coaching are they? How good are the coaches
at developing of talent? You know, you all the time
see low star or even walk on guys who excel.
A lot of times, you see five star busts. It's
not an exact science. And you know how how these
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kids handle being away from home and their first taste
of big time college football.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It can vary wildly.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So you know, I have no problem with anybody who
follows recruiting and enjoys that, but man.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's just not for me.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Right well, I think you hit it right on the
head when you talked about the fact that there are
guys that are lower rated that become stars, guys that
are higher rated that don't necessarily it doesn't necessarily translate
to the field. And I look at it this way,
and it's just one of these things where the NFL
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Draft they talk about this ad nauseum. And again I
watch the NFL Draft or a three day pero, but
it's one of these things where the stories of this
guy being a third round draft choice or a fifth
round draft choice or whatever it may be, and eventually
becoming a superstar. My point is is that the NFL
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invests millions of dollars per team in the way that
they evaluate, and they still get it wrong because it
isn't it's inexact science. So you're going to tell me
that at the lower level with high school players who,
let's face it, like you said, you know, when it
comes to you know, eighteen years old, coming out of
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different programs, the level of competition is not always the
same around the country. And that's not even to talk
about the strength and conditioning programs or the fact that
these young men have not necessarily had any kind of
detailed nutrition plans at their various schools. Like I said,
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I just think it's kind of interesting to see that
Ohio State, all right, Well, like they've got a verbal
commitment from a linebacker, just using since here Johnson as
an example today. That's great, all right, So all right,
so they've got you know, when, like you said, like
when it comes to signing day, we talk about it,
but it's usually like, okay, well, how many linebackers or
how many offensive linemen or whatever it might be. We
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kind of, you know, we look at it more from
the big picture rather than okay, well this guy is
definitely the is going to be the superstar because you
and I don't know, and the coaches, they they may
have a belief that they have a pretty good idea
as to who's going to be able to immediately contribute,
but until these guys show up on campus and start competing,
they really don't know either.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you and I would have never probably we would
have thought even if somebody as heralded as Jeremiah Smith,
you and I probably would have had a hard time
believing as a freshman he'd just come in and dominate
like that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh right, I mean the best.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The reason why I was probably excited about Jeremiah Smith
more so last year, And you're right, I had never
anticipated him being able to dominate. Like you just said,
the way he did last season is because I and
then the gentleman's name escapes me. But I remember reading
an article from somebody who had been following Florida high
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school football for let's just say, like the last sixty years,
and at one point he said that Jeremiah Smith, in
his humble opinion, was one of the three best players
that he had seen come out of the state of
Florida over the last fifty years. So when you start
thinking about just the cher volume of talent that the
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state of Florida produces year in year out, that got
me excited. And then when he did arrive on campus
and the word just kind of started to trickle out
about how he was, how he was performing, and the
drills and the player and he got his black striper mooved,
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and even the Big Ten Network the twenty twenty four
spring game, they had a little blurb talking about, Hey,
this guy is legitimately could be like one of the best,
if not the best Ohio state wide receiver to ever
do it that you know, it gets you excited, and
then we just saw we saw the evidence of it
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with our own eyes when the games really mattered.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, his black stripe was halfway off when he got here.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Well, I mean the fact that the fact that he
started as a true freshman speaks a lot. You know,
It's like there are certain I mean again kind of
showing our age, but it's one of these things where
there are certain times and again you know it kind
of you know, Archie Griffin preceded us, but you know
he didn't start his first game as a true freshman,
and he you know, he came in and contributed as
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a freshman and never looked back. And but like the
guys that that you and I kind of when when
you know, just speaking, you know, thinking about like Chris
Spielman or Chris Carter or you know, back in the nineties,
like Orlando Pace as a as a trough freshman to
start at left tackle, that just speaks volumes about this
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kind of the sheer physical presence and talent that that
Orlando Pace had to be able to start on the
offensive line. That speaks a lot. So, you know, and
then Maurice Clarette in the two thousand and two National
championship year, So there are guys that come in, but yeah,
Jeremiah Smith is certainly kind of a rare exception to
be that dominant at wide receiver. And again we have
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something to look forward to, at least for the next
couple of years before he takes his.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Talents to the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Absolutely, all right, Chip, let's turn our attention toward game times,
some game times and since our last show, and this
is good news for those who hate the big nude Saturday.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So the last time we did speak the Texas game
there was it was one of those things where you know,
we did, you know, talk about the the fact that
Ohio State had asked Texas to move the game to
Sunday and Texas said no thanks, and and we were
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both of the mindset that, okay, that was not necessarily
a bad thing because college football should be played on Saturday.
So we've known that that Texas is going to be
that that noon game. The other games and and the
Michigan game, you know, has always been has always been
on noon. So that game, even though it's going to
be in ann Arbor, Uh, we know that's going to be.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
A noon game.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
The other two games that that were announced since the
last time we spoke, and I'm going to tell you
that that I kind of a little bit of a surprise,
and I'll explain my rationale here in a moment. The
Grambling game is going to be on the Big ten network.
That's the September six game. It's going to be a
three thirty pm kickoff, and then on September thirteenth, Ohio
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University is going to be a seven pm kickoff on Peacock.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So a little bit of surprise. If this is just.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Me, I'm not trying to disparage either of these programs.
If I had been guessing out of the two, I
would have I really thought the Grambling game was going
to be the night game out of the two, simply
because Grambling, with its storied football history, also like a
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certain program out of Columbus, Ohio that is very proud
not only its football team but also its marching band, Grambling,
the Grambling marching band.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I really thought that this was going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
An opportunity to kind of showcase both marching bands at
halftime under the lights.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
But that was that was just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, So the Ohio University game being at seven gives
me my first conflict of the fall chip. But at
least I feel pretty good about Ohio States chances in
that one. So I'll watch that one when I get
home from my other engagement. So we don't know yet
when the rest of the times will drop, but we'll
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find them out.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But you know, there's been a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Of talk about noon kickoffs to the point where some
yahoo wanted to legislate it. And really, the Big Ten
has got to stop with the legislation stuff because it
came out today that you know, there there were a
faction in Michigan was trying to legislate whether or not
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their universities had to disclose nil information and whether or
not they were compliant, and I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's just ridiculous. Just Big Ten knock it off.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, as far as you know the individual you're talking
about within the Ohio you know, a state representative actually
introduced legislation and it's not.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Going to go anywhere. I mean, it's all the formative.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And one of the things that I would hope Ohio
State fans if they didn't get a chance to actually
watch or listen to Ross Bjorke, one of the you
know that he had comments that kind of scoffed for
as politely as I can about the mere idea about okay,
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you know the fact that you know, protesting the big
newon kickoffs, ross Byork made it abundantly clear that there
is very little to no wiggle room within the contract
that the Big Ten, all of the members including Ohio State,
very willingly and happily signed, and the idea of being
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able to to adjust or ask for other kickoff times
it's not going to happen for the length of the contract.
So I think it's just all wasted energy. It's all,
like I said, it's all just kind of like for
performative performative acts of Okay, let me show you what
I can do as a state representative. But I mean
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it's a waste of time. So I just think for
anyone out there who thinks that I'm all in favor
of big noon kickoffs.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I'm not. I just if anything, I just kind of I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
At the stage I recognize the things that I have
control over and the things that I do not, and
I am very happily able to admit that there are
so many things that are beyond my control.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
So if I don't I do not put.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
A lot of considerable energy into getting angry over them.
And when Ohio State kicks off is one of those things.
I'm old enough to remember when Ohio State, if they
had a game on at noon, living in the Cleveland area,
that the game would not even be televised until at
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least eleven hours after the fact. So I'd have to
wait to see any of the Ohio State games on
until eleven PM that night. I'm not kidding as a
as a you know, as a younger man. So that's
why when people, oh, I can't believe it's going to
be on Peacock or it's going to be it's like, hey,
there was a time when not every Ohio State game
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was televised.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I remember it. I remember. I remember listening on
the radio to a game at Purdue where Mike tom
Zach threw the ball out of bounds to kill the
clock and it was fourth down. I remember this just
like like it was yesterday. It was devastating to young
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me that you didn't know what down it was and
they lost to Purdue in a close game, a game
they still had a chance to win.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
So it was annoying.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And but You're right, that were spoiled. These days, everything's
on TV. Everything is available.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You don't even have to be home.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You can DVR it, oh right, you know, you can
watch it on demand whatever you want to call it.
I guess DVRs all outdated now, but watch on demand
and I'm I'm good with a mixture. You have some
noon games, some three thirty games.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Some night games.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Okay, so this might be a little on the personal side.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So do you have Peacock because that is what the okay,
because that is that is the That is another thing
that again, you know, when I mentioned about like Ohio representatives,
you know, for for performance only, you know, like the
idea of trying to make sure that okay, well high
say games are not going to be on peacock. That
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that never went anywhere either. That was another thing where
it's like, Okay, the Ohio state and the other big
ten member institutions are very happily positing the very lucrative
checks that they're receiving from the networks. So just the
fact that you know, like the joke about okay, well,
you know, sign up for Peacock and don't forget you know,
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you can cancel it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
After whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
To me, it's just you know, if there are people
out there that say, oh, I don't want to get peacock,
like you said, Michael, it's like, Okay, you can go
old school and listen to the listen to the dulcet
tones of of Jim Lache on the radio.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You can.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
You can listen to it that way and it's not
going to cost you a thing.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
All right, Well, we've got more schedule stuff to talk about,
not for twenty twenty five, but for the future. We've
got other Ohio State news to get to and why
don't we do that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Right after this quick break and Chip, we are back.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And it is a time for us to discuss the
Texas game. I mean, because the Ohio State Texas game
is not only the first game of the season. It's
not only going to be a battle of two top
teams in the country college football championship potential, but it's
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also going to be the day we say goodbye to
the beloved Lee Corso.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, he's stepping down. It's going to be his final
game day show.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Corso.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
The very first time that he ever wore a mascot's
headgear was I mean it's scary to think about. This
was almost thirty years ago when Ohio State and Penn
State played, and it's been kind of a his signature
move to you. That's how he would determine his selection
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as to who he predicted was going to to win
the win the game, just kind of looking at some
notes that you know, by and large, you know, he's
you know, made four hundred and thirty mascot headgear selections.
He has a winning percentage of six sixty five overall
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record two eighty six to one forty four. So I
mean it's it's he's gonna he's going to turn ninety.
God bless him. You know the fact that he has
has been doing something that he's obviously enjoyed and something
that he has popularized. Uh, you know the fact that
you know, college game Day. I realize now like we've
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talked about Fox Big Noon and all that, that the
idea of college uh, the college pregame going you know
on the stadium, you know, ESPN College Game Day like
they were the ones who popularized it, and a big
aspect of that popularity is certainly attributed to Lee Corso.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So he'll be the he'll be the one of the
pickers there at in Columbus, and he's probably worn the
Brutus Buckeye had more than any other human that hasn't
been hired to portray Brutus Bluck guy.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's that's not a that's not a bad thing to
be associated with. I mean the fact that, like I said,
you know, he kind of you know it just you
know some of the some of the things that he's done.
I mean, and again you know he's he's ninety. I
think he kind of deserves a tremendous amount of latitude.
Some of the some of the things that that I've
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enjoyed it, you know, obviously like the interaction between he
and Kirk kurb Street. I know that Kirk kurk Street
is very fond of orse. So the fact that you know,
he had a stroke that he recovered from his his
speech is not at one hundred percent, but the fact
that he's out there, I know Herbstreet takes a special
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pride in kind of, you know, looking after him. So
like I said, I think he deserves a lot of latitude.
And sometimes he like one time he dropped an F
bomb on live television. I think he started firing. I
don't know if they were live bullets, but like I
can't remember. It must have been for like an Oklahoma
State game, and Herb Street was just like, oh my gosh,
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you know kind of whatever. You know, It's like maybe
maybe I can't remember who it was, but I just
know like some of the some of the things you
can see, of course through the years, I mean you
could see that. I mean just how much affection that
Herb Street and the other people on that on that
team have for a lead course.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
So I think it's it's completely genuine.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean that was appointment viewing back in the day
when you know, there wasn't this glut of talking heads.
I mean ESPN back in the day. ESPN was very
innovative at their coverage, and you know, the original game
day experience was great. It's unwatchable to me now, but
right it used to be fantastic. Maybe I've just gotten
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old and jaded.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Maybe it's still good to some people, but I can't
watch pregame shows anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I hope that he puts Brutus's head on one more time,
because if he picks Texas and Columbus. That's going to
be It's going to be a bummer. Do we know
how many times he's put Brutus's head on.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I'm looking at This is actually from the official Ohio
State buck guys dot com website. Lee Corso has selected
and worn Brutus Buckeye headgear a record forty five times.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Alabama is the next on the list with thirty eight.
He's worn sixty nine different school mascots headgear. This is
the sixty seventh time that Ohio State will be playing
at a game day locale, the.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Most among all schools.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They are still even though they are no longer an ESPN.
I don't want to a property, but the kind of
venue that ESPN would select now that ESPN has that
relationship with the SEC. Alabama second with sixty and then
Ohio State has the most game day victories in forty
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six and Ohio State has hosted game day the most.
This represents the twenty six This will be the twenty
six game day broadcast from Columbus. So obviously hoping for
a banner year for Ohio State in twenty twenty five.
The fact that they had the opportunity to host College
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Game Day last year when Tennessee came to town. But
this will be the last time that Ohio State fans
and college football fans will get the opportunity to see
Lee Corso don headgear.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah all right, jib, Let's turn our attention to Ohio Stadium,
the beloved horseshoe place that you and I would probably
want our ashes sprinkled after we, you know, pass into
their great end zone in the sky. Do you care
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that they are going to put nine new suites and
four hundred new chair backs in that end zone and
remove the you know, for premium seating, and that's going
to remove where the band is.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It doesn't bother me as much.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I know that there are a lot of people, you know,
we talked about, you know, people getting upset. I think
it's one of these things where they're just trying to
I say they. I think ross By Work and the
athletic department are trying to think of ways to enhance.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
The revenue. Let's call it what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean, it's a money grab.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So so it doesn't bother me because I freely admit
when I whenever I do go to a game Ohio
Stadium I'm not usually looking for a prestigious type seat environment.
You know, it's just if I can get in, and
you know, the better the seat, the you know, the
better the viewing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So be it.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Most of the time I'm up in see deck though,
you know, so it doesn't really bother me as much
as I know that it bothers others.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I like se deck because I like being able to
watch the routes develop.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And also it's all I can afford these days.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You know, the day, the days when I bought a
thirty dollars student ticket and got all the home games.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Those are long gone.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yes, yeah, that's not even I can tell you from
personal experience that I, my wife and I our son
who will be attending Ohio State, purchased his season tickets,
and it's more than three more than thirty dollars. I
can promise you that he didn't even get He didn't
even get the full He didn't even get the full
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season simply because, uh, you know, we talked earlier about
Grambling ohiou he just basically one of the big ten
games that are on the slate.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, I don't know how they do it now.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I know, back in the day the first game at home,
students weren't back yet, so you had to buy that
ticket separately. But then after that all the other home
games were on a student ticket.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You got a.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Little square piece of cardboard and they physically took a
little hole puncher and played each game. You had to
you had to keep that the whole year. Yep, that
was probably some nice That was probably like on your
phone and you.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Just say it is it is. I can.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I can speak from the perspective of my daughter who
graduated and like I said, my son. So that's kind
of where you know, everything is all digital everything.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So well, I'm just sitting low in the end zone.
Hey have fun paying for those seats because their it's
not great from there.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
All right, let us move on to some tweaks to
the schedule coming up in the future. In the non
conference schedule in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty is
scary to.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Talk about twenty thirty, Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So the non conference schedule in twenty twenty nine is
going to be Navy, Charlotte and Youngstown States.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
There's a slate for you.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Maybe it'll be interesting. And then at twenty thirty there's
a TBD a Nevada and an at Georgia, which is intriguing.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It is, Yeah, the Nevada the news when it came
out was that essentially what you know when it came
to Nevada, that that was that game was originally scheduled
for twenty twenty nine, but they moved it back a
year to twenty thirty. So you know the fact that
(29:58):
all they're they're going to be playing, you know, they're
going to be playing Nevada September seventh, twenty thirty, and
then right now, and I want to emphasize the words
right now, it's it's at Georgia September fourteenth. If I'm
sounding pessimistic, it's it's not. I'm not trying to be.
(30:19):
It's just that there are so many reports coming out
about trying to get the college football playoff format established,
and the Big Ten and SEC are not able to
come to any kind of a consensus that there's some
concern that you know, games like the game at Georgia,
(30:41):
games like even though we're talking about twenty nine and thirty.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Home and home against Bama seven, that those are that
those might be in jeopardy, that you know, like we
might see more of the games like the twenty twenty
nine schedule, you know, with Navy Charlotte and Youngsound State,
which I think is a mistake.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I do.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I really hope that's not the case, because what we've
seen this year is you can lose a game, even
two games, and it may not kill your shot at
a title. I mean, it's there's no It was one
thing when if you slipped up once you might not
get a shot at the playoffs. But now you get
(31:21):
a shot, and I think you should be rewarded for it.
And I think you should schedule aggressively, and I think
you should test your team and see where they're at
early in the season so you know where they need
to go.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
If anything, what I'm hoping is, you know, when it
comes to.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Just the different.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Things that are being bandied about, and again, you know,
there are so many different rumors that you know it
really it would take too long to kind of go
through them. But one of the things that I had
seen in previous social media posts was that the Big
ten in SEC there was talk about kind of creating
a Big ten SEC non conference schedule format, and it
(32:08):
wasn't as though like anything was you know, set in
stone like that, you know, like that like every team
was going to play, you know, like every top Big
ten was going to play every SEC. I think it
might be just kind of like okay, well, let's you know,
kind of randomize this h and I would presume.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
It would be kind of like a home and home, so.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
There there would be a legitimately good non conference game.
I have nothing against the MAC. I think it is
great to have teams like you know, Ohio, you like
this year, future years, Bowling Green, you know, in previous
years they played Miami, Ohio, et cetera. I have no
problem with helping to subsidize MAC teams.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I have made no.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I have made no bones about the fact that I'm
against any FCS opponent. It has nothing, it's nothing personal.
I just think that, you know, Ohio State goes out
and destroys a team seventy to nothing against an FCS opponent,
it just doesn't look just doesn't look good. So I'm
just kind of hoping that, you know, we're talking about
(33:13):
twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty, that hopefully cooler heads prevail
and the Big ten and SEC can get this all
kind of sorted out and those games like at Georgia
in twenty thirty are still going to be on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I hope, so because that's my birthday.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Oh there you go, what a birthday president.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
They're good and I live considerably closer to Georgia than
I do Ohio.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Right now, well, I can only imagine, you know, the
fact that it would be you know, September. So I
mean you're talking it should be still beautiful weather, God,
it'll be ungodly.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I've never been I've never been to Athens for a game,
and that would be a fantastic experience.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
That's exactly it is that I just think that when
it comes to these kind of venues, that's what college
football needs. It's not it's not more of the you know,
because when when you talk about the fans being you know,
kind of you know, not involved, like like if anything,
(34:14):
the on campus game experience that people saw last week
or last week last season when it came to Ohio
State posting Tennessee or you know, yeah, I'm just gonna
throw out there like Penn State hosting s.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
MU or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
That that's exactly you know what college football needs more
of because they need better, better opponents and like notre
name hosting Indiana on that Friday night, I mean that
was tremendous. So it's like, I just think that the
Big Ten and SEC, let's let's let cooler heads prevail
and let's come up with that scheduling format and then
(34:54):
if that means the elimination of the conference championship games,
because that's another thing that's been kind of bandied about
where it's like instead of necessarily you know, like the
you know, like the first and second place team playing
for the conference championship, but like that last weekend would
be like the third place team playing against the six
and the four and five, and whoever would win those
(35:15):
would get those third and fourth Big Ten slots and
conversely the same kind of a thing in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I just think that right now the SEC doesn't want
to move off of playing only eight conference games.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
The Big Ten wants to play.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Nine, you know, like they all those different things are
being bandied about. So they got until December, but hopefully
they'll get this resolved before December, you know, before you know,
because it kind of you know, the future of the
college football Playoff is completely contingent on what the Big
Ten and SEC decide.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, and don't play mercer the week before your rivalry games.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, it's terrible all right. Oh, by the way, if
you're a wealthy person and you're going to spend big
money on a suite in twenty twenty six, your home
non conference schedule is Ball State and Kent State, So enjoy.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
And and and I and I just I'm not taking
back what I just said. I think, Okay, one one
in state, Max School.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
I I that's fine.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
And I would say like there has to be some
kind of an equivalent. We're down in the SEC, that's fine,
you know. And but I just think that the better uh,
you know, matchups, that's what the college football fan deserves
and what they want.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
By the way, if you are going to I agree
with you about FCS.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But if you're going to do that, don't be chicken.
Go after South Dakota.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Okay, go go go get the Dakota schools, because then
you were going to have a fight on your hands.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, you're probably right, all right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So big news from the non conference schedules in the future. Uh,
chip let us discuss a former Buck Eye sadly passing
away since we last spoke Jim Marshall, who is sadly
probably better known for running the wrong way with the
(37:13):
football fumble than he is for his outstanding defensive career
with the Vikings and his Pro Bowls and all of
the an insane amount of statistics that he racked up.
And a lot of people forget that he went to
Ohio State because it's been half a century.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, he he was, He played for what he hayes.
He was part of the nineteen fifty seven national championship team,
and like you said, you know, unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
He one of the.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Memorable moments of his NFL careers, you know, running the
wrong way and you know, but it's the fact that
I think the fact that he not only played for
Ohio State, he is one of the guys that.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
In turn of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I don't want to call him an iron man, but
the fact that he played, you know, so many years
with the with the Minnesota Vikings. He ranks fourth in
all time consecutive games in NFL history, you know, So
you know, he had a very lengthy career, you know,
(38:23):
and you know, it's sad that he passed away, But yeah,
you know, he was definitely a major part of the
national championship team back in nineteen fifty seven, he was
eighty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, he was you know back in those days, not
only did he play so many games in a row,
those guys didn't come off the field.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
There wasn't right realization.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
If you were a starter, you basically played every down.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Right, Yeah, I mean he was part of He was
part of the Purple people eaters, you know, like the
you know, like of the nineteen seventy Minnesota Viking teams.
Now they you know, they never won a Super Bowl,
but you know, they played in four of them, you know,
and Jim Marshall was a big part of that.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, notinly part of the fifty seven national championship. Won
Big Ten. He beat Michigan a couple of times. He
was All Big Ten Conference in nineteen fifty eight and
All American nineteen fifty eight. He scored both touchdowns in
a fourteen fourteen tie with number eight Purdue defensive player
(39:26):
scored both touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Well.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
He one of the things that I remember reading about
Jim Marshall. We were talking about, like with Woody Hayes
is that beaucham Beckler, And it's one of the things
that always drives me nuts about Michigan fans that completely
either are ignorant of or they tried to gloss over
(39:49):
the fact that Boucham Beckler was very open and candid
about the love and respect he had for Woody Hayes
and what Woody Hayes meant to him and his career.
In his autobiography, bo Schambeckler has a little anecdote about
when he first arrived in Columbus and was assigned to
go track down Jim Marshall, who was late for a
(40:16):
studying session, and Jim Marshall as soon as soon as
said how coach Hayes wanted to see him like Jim Marshall, immediately,
you know, took off and went into whatever room that
Woody Hayes was in, and Bo Schambckler in the autobiography
made it abundantly clear he's like Woody Hayes didn't yell
(40:37):
at me, he said, he began tutoring him. And so
my point being is that, you know, like the the
idea of Jim Marshall being such a tremendous impact had
a tremendous impact, like you said, you know, scoring both touchdowns,
but you know the fact that he was considered one
of the best players in Ohio state history.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Now blocked the punt and returned that return to block
punt and also picked six in that game. You also,
I know this is a sore spot for Vikings fans
because they didn't win any of them, but he he
helped the Vikings reach four Super Bowls. That's not nothing, No,
I mean, that's the thing is.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I realized we're talking about the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
But you know, as we get further and further away
from how the Buffalo Bills, you know, went four years
in a row and didn't win, the fact that, yeah
they didn't win any of those Super Bowls, but they
went four years in a row, and how impressive that is,
you know, getting back to the Minnesota Vikings, the fact that,
yeah they didn't win any of the Super bowl they
(41:39):
got there. So you know, as a as a lifelong Clevelander,
I'm still waiting, you know. You know, like there were
a couple of times, you know, when I was in
high school that I thought that the Browns were going
to do it and get to the Super Bowl and
very even further than from when I was in high school.
So the fact that Jim Marshall was a vital part
(42:02):
of four Super Bowl teams with the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Like I said, he had a.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Lengthy NFL career, and he passed at the age of
eighty seven. So I'm sure you know so many tremendous
stories that people that knew him could probably share.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
All right, p Jim Marshall. All right.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I think the only thing we wanted to mention, the
only other thing I had on the docket, was that
Ohio State offered Jeremiah Smith's younger brother.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
It's one of these things where you know, he, I
think is is being classified as an athlete.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
You know, his name is Angelo Smith. You know, he's
one of.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
These guys that you know, I put I'm gonna say
this as politely as as possible.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know, we talked earlier about not really.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Following recruiting as intently as other sites or other podcasters do.
But I think you would agree with me when I
say that, Okay, this is not being done just because
he's Jeremiah Smith's brother. I mean, like Angelo Smith, if
he warranted a scholarship offer. It certainly means that the
powers that be that make those determinations see something in
(43:20):
him that they want him to be suiting up.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
For Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
So we'll just have to see how it all turns out.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, it wasn't nepotism for Nick Bosa to get an offer.
He was great and he was high on their board,
and that is the case in this case as well. Exactly,
all right, Trip, anything else we need to cover before
we get out of here for the month of June
and turn our attention forward to July. Our final once
(43:50):
a month, the show a month of this offseason.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
I would just say that, you know, we've been talking
kind of about the recruiting. That's it's not that you know,
we don't have, you know, any interest in it. It's
more of okay, that's pretty much where the bulk of
the news is going to be coming from or Ohio
State is. You know, we talked about the verbal commitment
(44:16):
of Sincere Johnson that Ohio State this coming weekend will
be a very big recruiting weekend. And that's not to
imply that they won't have recruits coming to games, but
because they will. But Ohio State does the bulk of
their recruiting in the summertime. So if there's going to
(44:36):
be news coming out, pay attention to the different social
media platforms because that's where you may see news of
future buck Eyes, you know, regardless of whether it's for
the like the twenty sixth class or or beyond that
you might be finding out about, you know, some players
that are going to be future buck Eyes.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
What are the percentage chants?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Would you say?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Then? In our next show in July, we will be
discussing NCAA sanctions for the University of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Oh wow, in years.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
It has been two years and they just had their
big meeting at the beginning of June. I would say,
not necessarily talking about sanctions, but I think that we
might be I'd say, less about sanctions and more about
some of the things that some of the news coming
out of those like I think, you know, like some
(45:33):
of the leaks, so to speak, about what was discussed
and what was alleged, some of the allegations of wrongdoing
by the University of Michigan. I think we'll have a
better understanding definitely in July.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Well, I hope that's the case.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
This has been a long drawn out thing, and it's there.
I feel like it's been deliberate, and I'm both NCAA's
part and Michigan's part. I mean, it's doesn't want to
have to discipline a national champion, uh like potentially vacate it.
I don't think that they have the guts to do it,
(46:09):
even if this is deemed to be a very very
serious like from all you know, from all accounts that
we've heard, this would seem to be you know, lack
of institutional control, failure to monitor both of those things.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Very serious.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Like I think the last I think the last school
that had both of those was SMU.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
It's going to be interesting because, like you said, your
repeat defender, you know, all these kind of different things,
and so I I can't remember all the precise details,
but Wisconsin just recently was was hit with some recruiting
violations and one of the you know, one of the
(46:55):
assistants is I think, like he's not gonna be allowed
to leave campus or you know what. I but it
was like relatively minor in comparison to what has been
alleged to have taken place up at Michigan. And but
again the fact that like you said, you know, it's
pretty serious. I mean, the other Big Ten member institutions
want to see some heavy handed punishment handed down. It
(47:19):
just remains to be seen if the NCAA is going
to do that.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah, all right, Chip, before you get out of here, what
you remind our listeners where they can find you and
your fine work on the internet.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I can be found on Twitter at Chipminic. Last name
spelled m I N N I c H. And I'm
a contributor to Buckeye Huddle dot com and recently started
also doing some occasional contributing to Saturday Glory dot com,
which kind of more.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Of a focus on the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
But yeah, I do some some writing and podcasting for
both of those, so look for if you follow.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Me on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I've been writing a series of articles for BUCKYE Huddle
focusing in on the twenty twenty five Big Ten teams
that Ohio State will not be facing this year. So,
for example, the article that will be coming out is
an article that looks at the twenty twenty five Oregon Ducks.
(48:15):
So Ohio State if they do face Oregon would not
be until the Big Ten Championship Game or maybe a
college football playoff game, but we all know that they're
not on the schedule twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
You can find me on Twitter or blue Sky at
Mike thirty six fan, give me a follow, be happy
to have you along. You can also find my work
at Landgrant holy land dot com. And this week we
are looking at our biggest concerns of the for Ohio
State this season. And I wrote this week sorry last
(48:48):
week as this has dropped a little bit later than
we normally record it.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Last week I wrote about the.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Breaking in another new quarterback. This would be the third
year in a row Hio State has had a first
year well not a first year starter first year started
at Ohio State, but a new quarterback starting for the
for the third consecutive year.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
That's very unusual.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Well, I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
If anything, let's let's hope that Ryan day that's going
to be. It's going to be interesting to see, you
know how it all shake shakes out. I mean right
now that you know Julians saying is the favorite, but
by no means says he have it locked up. But
how Ohio State they begin fall camp July thirty first,
(49:35):
so hopefully it will not be long into August before
a answer is made at the quarterback position, because I
think it's going to be important that whoever gets the
job that they, you know, kind of feel the full
support of their coaches and teammates.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, and we will be hoping that it's a little
closer to Will Howard than what we had with the
with the one first year of Kyle McCord's career as
a starter. Nothing against Kyle McCord. His season was fine,
but fine at Ohio State doesn't really doesn't really sit
well with a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
A lot of people were not.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Unhappy to see Kyle McCord go. I wasn't happy about
it because I knew he was going to be better
his second year.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Obviously he was.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
But obviously you can't you can't criticize what Will Howard
got done. All he did was go out and win
a national championship.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
And the early reports, and again they are early, and
it's it doesn't matter because they're just organized team activities.
But the early reports on Will Howard out of Pittsburgh
are very promising.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
And I knew they would be, and I also think
that they I think I think they definitely got Pittsburgh
Steeler type players with Will Howard and Jack Sawyer.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yes, looking forward to seeing both of them, believe it
or not, even though Line McCleary.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Orchard your Browns for years to come.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Yeah, exactly. Oh.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
I did think it was nice of the Steelers too.
I thought it was a smart move. The Steelers went
out and got a veteran quarterback to back up Will Howard. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Well, and Will Howard I think is going to be
one of these guys that I think he's going to
be a Sponge. And you know, a preseason you don't
want to put too much stock into it, but I
am kind of excited to see how he looks when
those games are televised and we'll just see kind of
(51:26):
where his NFL career goes.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
I have to stay ready because Aaron Rodgers is not
a young man.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
He is not all right.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Chip.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
You can also also tell our listeners on Twitter. You
can follow Silver Bullets Podcast at silver Bullets Pod with
no E in silver because that's one too many characters,
so it's s I l v R Bullets Pod, and
you can write to us at Silver Bullets Pod at
gmail dot com. Spell it all out, Silver bulletspod at
(51:55):
gmail dot com. We'd love to hear from you, so
thanks everybody for listening. We'll be back in July and
there's only one thing left for us to do, and
that's what we always do at the end of the show,
and that is to say the thing that all of
you guys say every college football season.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Go Bucks, Go Bucks.
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