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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So there call it conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the sum Dear Call It Conspiracy podcast, hosted
by Brentley and Neil Sanders. After nearly twenty years exploring
the world of conspiracy culture, we are taking our guests
and listeners on a guided tour of the rabbit hole,
our mission to discover where the truth lies.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Right. So, I was trolling through social media the other
day and something sort of you know, vomited into my
lap and I thought, oh, look at that, and you
never guess his back brand? Who yee yee is back?
But not the yee that when everyone's thinking of like
(01:03):
it's not kind yet, I'm afraid it's Mike ye Michael
Yedon who nobody calls ye except for me. Just then,
But Michael Ytan's back. Hurrah, Michael Great? Yeah, absolutely. Now
he's got a new film out. We will explain who
Michael Yiden is and his backstory in the second but like,
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the important thing is he's got a new film out
or a new interview, and a lot of these smart
people and conspiracy theories cosimotives are like, we're very, very
excited about this. It seemed to be like quite monumental.
It was called and it's released by Oracle Films to
give them their their doom, and it's called Michael Yedon
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a Final Warning, which could sound ominous or it could
sound like the sort of like you know, like you
failed to pay your gas bill, but but who knows. Anyway,
it's just him talking to the camera for like nearly
two hours basically, and it's not lit particularly well, and
(02:09):
he's got this really sort of crazy look about him recently, yiding,
he's got like a sort of stere eyed thing. So
he comes across a little bit like a cross between
Chiles how Tree from the carry On Films and a
sort of PTSD Riddle Vietnam War veteran. So anyway, if
people don't know you don't have that wide eyed stare
yet totally doesn't he doesn't. He He like, I'm not
(02:31):
even like trying to be horrible. It's just like that's like,
this is it, And it's obviously because you know, he's
got something serious to say. This is his final warning,
so we'll see. But for those that don't know who
Michael Yedion is, he is best known as being an
anti vaccine activist, but he's actually he worked in the
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pharmaceutical industry for a long time. He's a retired pharmacologist,
and for some reason that no one can quite fathohim.
In twenty twenty and twenty twenty one he exploded onto
the scene and started making a lot of pretty false
and unfounded claims about COVID, about the pandemic, about the lockdown,
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about the safety of vaccines, and basically became a bit
of a hero to the conspiracy world, partly because and
this is one of those sort of strange things about conspiracies,
and well, everyone has these biases, but this is particularly
sort of prevalent in the conspiracy world. He's a whistleblower,
(03:36):
you see, or was seen as a whistleblower, seen as
in an insider, because he used to work for PHISA.
Now a lot of you might be saying, but that
makes no sense, Neil, because you know people like Baller,
Afric Baller there was that his name, or he worked
for Phiser as well, and people said, well, you can't
trust him because he worked for Phiser. Well, this is
(03:57):
a different thing, you see, because he used to work
for PFISA and he was saying things that they liked,
so that obviously shifts the Yeah. Now, The Times newspaper
has described Michael Yedion as a hero of COVID conspiracy
theorists and also a key figure in the anti vax movement.
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But as I say, all started pretty sort of normally.
He got his PhD from the University of Surrey and
his thesis was on the respiratory system of rats. And
he's worked at quite prestigious places a place called Welcome
Research Laboratories which laboratory sorry, focusing on the effects of
pollutants and as well as working on creating new drugs.
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And then his sort of big thing that got him
his credibility was that he served as the vice president
of pfisa's Allergy and Respiratory Research Unit. Now, a lot
of people will shorthand that and say that he's the
vice president of PFISA. He wasn't the vice president of
and some people who aren't going to say is the
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ex CEO of fires and stuff like that. A lot
of people have mashed up what his actual qualifications were.
But he was the vice president of Pfizer's Allergy and
Respiratory Research Unit, and apparently he saw oversaw the development
of drugs for asthma and COPD chronic obstructive pull noary disease.
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So again he's working within the mainstream industry. So what
happened was he was working in their Kent facility, but
that got closed down and so he basically decided that
he wanted to found his own company. In him and
three colleagues sounded z rco z iar COO, which is
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a biotechnology company and essentially that he really looked out.
It was bought out by a company called Nova Artists.
Can you guess how much his company was bought for?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
A billion pounds?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Not quite but still not to be sniffed at three
hundred and twenty five million pounds in twenty seventeen, and
he was the CEO. One presumes that was split between
four people. So he did alright, He did all right,
He could probably he could probably lend us a few
quid to be quite honest. Anyway, on Twitter, he said
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that he's married and he's got two daughters who are adults.
But he actually described a bit of a tough childhood.
This is a bit grim. Apparently his mother committed suicide
when he was only eighteen months, which is horrific obviously,
and then apparently his father who's a doctor, abandoned him
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when he was only sixteen. It's yeah, it's grimy. Now.
He said that he was saved by a local social
worker and then was adopted by a Jewish family who's
and this is a quote, who's open handed love turned
my life around. So that's that's that's nice. Obviously would
obviously it's horrible, but it's lovely that he was able
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to find some sort of solace at least. So anyway,
COVID happens, and Jeden's got a blog and he's typing away,
blogging off like you know people do, and he started
to sort of pick up traction because I don't know
whether people remember this or not, but people lost their
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fucking shit during COVID, and all these people that are
basically spent years and years bragging about how they totally
would cope if they were off grid and you know,
would love to go and sort of be isolated from society.
When told to possibly stay inside and you know, not
stand in large groups, went completely fucking tonto. And I remember, like,
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you know, people started pulling all sorts of shit out there,
asks like it's not that dangerous that he doesn't even
exist all of this stuff, that the whole thing is
just an excuse to keep his lockdown, or to pump
us full of chemicals, or to introduce a digital ID
through the vaccine passport. And yeah, people went quite crazy.
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So they were looking for answers, and bizarrely a lot
of people were looking for the answer that yeah, this
is not real, you don't have to worry about it.
And that was essentially where Yedn' sort of fell Like
in as early as October twenty twenty, he was writing
on his blog that the pandemic was essentially over and
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there would be no second wave. Now, needless to say,
he was completely wrong, but that didn't stop his confidence. Right,
So in November of that year, he was invited to
appear on talk radio with the vile and dispicable Julia
Hartley Brewer, and he told her, when you've got a
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very low prevalence of the disease as we had in
July and August, and then you're going to see far
more false positives. The pandemic is fundamentally over in the UK.
These are deaths with COVID, not of COVID. So you
can be in hospital for a whole variety of other reasons.
You could have heart disease, you could have cancer, but
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if you test positive for COVID, you still end upon
these statistics, don't you. We now know that that loads
of people had prior immunity, and I firmly believe that
we are now firmly at community immunity. Viruses don't do waves.
Immunity to viruses is mostly conferred by what's called T
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cell memories. Antibodies are probably not very important. Now, the
eagle eyed Monsieur may have spotted that absolutely everything that
he said there was complete and utter shite. He couldn't
have possibly got it were wrong, that pandemic was not
fundamentally over. He didn't see false positives. The deaths were
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not with COVID, they were of COVID. These are all
sort of very well debunked tropes of of COVID that,
but at the time these were the talking points. These
were the things that were being repeated by by David
Ike and by everybody that essentially didn't want to act
like an adult and accept that, you know, sometimes you
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have to do things that you don't want to do.
The idea that people we've reached herd immunity through prior immunity,
and that viruses don't do waves. These are frighteningly inaccurate things,
not just for COVID, just in general. And it's in
many ways shocking that somebody like who claims to have
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the background that he claims to have, would make such
incredibly false statements with such confidence. The other point is
that basic he's never actually worked with viruses or vaccines
or anything like that is work with in the area
of respiratory diseases. Now, obviously there is some crossover there,
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but that's that's not his expertise. He also claimed to
say so. He claimed that that PCR gave false positives,
we've got herd immunity, that COVID was not on the rise,
that people who supposedly died from it died of other things,
and that viruses don't do waves. And as I said,
I don't think I need to repeat, but every single
thing of those was wrong. Now, just to sort of
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address that quickly, although we've addressed it on numerous other things.
People say, but I know about that motorcyclist that died
blah blah blah blah blah, and he was listed as COVID. Yeah,
here's the thing right. Okay, Initially they were doing that.
They were they were putting they were making a note
of everybody that had COVID. But this wasn't to hype
the figures. This was actually just attract the disease, because basically,
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this is a way of saying, Okay, if all these
people with these death certificates in this area have got
this added to it, that means that the disease is
definitely there. What they did was at a later date
they went back and checked and made sure that the
disease so that the statistic that they were using, so
that in all cases where COVID was listed, that it
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was actually the cause of death and not just something
that happened to be happening at the same time. But Neil,
they were telling us on the news and they said
that anyone with a COVID test within twenty eight days
would be listed as this. Yeah, they did, they did,
And I've just explained to you that that was for tracking.
And a lot of people will basically say, well, that
proves it, doesn't it. That proves it that they're hyping
with the figures as they would do, except for the facts,
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because ironically that figure anyone positive with COVID after twenty
eight days was actually the lowest of three possible figures
that the government could have used, and the actual figure afterwards,
where it was COVID proven to have caused death on
the death certifigure, that was actually the high rate. So
if they were trying to fool people, why would they
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use the lowest possible metric. They wouldn't, would they. You've
just got it wrong anyway. Science Feedback picked up on
this pretty early, because you know already said about antibodies.
Science Feedback says Yieden's dismissal of antibodies as probably not
very important is not in line with the well established
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role of antibodies in anti viral defense. Antibodies can bind
to certain proteins on the surface of the virus to
prevent it from infecting cells. In fact, a key purpose
of most preventative vaccines against infectious diseases, including the COVID
nineteen vaccines that are being developed, is to ultimately enable
the body to produce antibodies that prevent the pathogen from
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causing infection. So again, he's just essentially wildly wrong about
his statements, But you know that's what was going on
at that time basically so. Also in October twenty twenty,
he wrote an article for The Daily Mail and the
title sort of gives away the sort of his position.
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Potentially three facts that number ten's experts got wrong, and
then the sublime is dtor Mike Eden says. Claims that
the majority of the population is susceptible COVID, that only
seven percent are infected so far, and that the virus
death rate is one percent are all false And this
is the Daily Mail, so obviously, you know we have
to take it seriously anyway. In this he said on
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susceptibility to COVID, the reality though, is rather different. Versely,
whilst the COVID nineteen virus is new, other coronaviruses are not.
We have experience of SARS in two thousand and three
and MERS in twenty twelve. While in the UK there
are at least four known strains of coronavirus which caused
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the common cold. Many individuals who've been infected by other
coronaviruses have immunity to closely related ones, such as the
COVID nineteen virus. Multiple research groups in Europe and the
US have shown that around thirty percent of the population
was likely already immune to COVID nineteen even before the
virus arrived, and this is something which SAGE, which was
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the advisory body in the UK, continues to ignore. So
just to clarify what you're saying there, is that COVID
nineteen is a coronavirus, and we've had experiences of stars
and merhs, which are also coronaviruses, and the common cold,
which is also a coronavirus, which means that the COVID nineteen,
because it is inself a coronavirus, can't be any more
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dangerous or effective than those two, which some of you
who dabble in science or common sense might have picked
up his utter bullshit. It's basically like saying that my
one point two liter escort is exactly the same as
that escort Cousworth because they're both escorts. It doesn't work
like that. It really doesn't work like that. COVID nineteen
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was a new illness and a unique virus. Yeah, it
was a close genetic relative of the original SARS calf one,
which is kind of why it's caused SARS calf two. Right,
But it doesn't mean that they're the same, right, It's
and also SARS as well, as was far from a
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harmless illness, right, it was just managed well. By the
end of the original SARS epidemic in June two thousand
and three, it had infected eighty four hundred and twenty
two people. Ten percent of those people died, so it
was actually quite dangerous. It was just it didn't spread
that that well and was essentially stifled, which is great good.
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We want that. MERZ CoV, you know, Middle East and
respiratory syndrome has infected fewer people, but apparently it's even
more deadly than both of the SARS viruses if you
happen to get it. So MERZ. There was two thousand
and five hundred and twenty four confirmed cases of MERZ
since it first began in twenty twelve and eight one
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hundred and sixty six people have died, which is a
fatality rate of thirty four percent. So basically, the number
short of it is that this seven different human coronaviruses,
but they're all unique. Some are far more damaging than others.
And to suggest that one is going to be like
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this because there's another one that's like something else is
just silly. It just doesn't work. So he went on
to talk about the number of infected. When applied to
the total number of COVID deaths in the UK, which
is around forty five thousand, this would imply that approximately
twenty two point five million people have been infected, and
that's thirty three point five percent of our population, which
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is not what Sage said. Sage said seven percent on
death rates early in the epidemic, Sage model immortality rate
of around one percent, and from what I understand, they
may now be working with a number close and nort when,
which is still far too high. After extensive world wide surveys,
preeminent scientists such as John Iron Eis a professor of
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epidemiology at Stanford use at the University in California have
concluded that the mortality rate is closer to zero point
two percent. Then that means that only one in five
hundred people who were infected die. Now, the problem with
both of these things that his figures are wrong. Once
it was all correlated, the actual CFR was between the
case rate. The case fatality rate was between zero point
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seven and twenty percent, depending on how much mitigation was
put into place. So essentially Saint was correct in both
of their figures, and he's wrong because he's presuming that
it's less dangerous than it actually turned out to me.
On reinfection, he said, and see if you can surpart
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the floor in this one, Brent. The fact is people
don't get reinfected with COVID. That's how the immune system works,
and if it did, humanity would not have survived. Oh god,
what was the what was what was it? Yeah? What
was the most time that you know, somebody got COVID?
(19:16):
A friend of mine had it about five or six times.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, I don't know, I've had it twice. But I
was just thinking, like how many times I've had a
cold or a flu in my life? Like you get
them all the time. Yeah, just because you get it
once doesn't mean you your immune systems.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That a forever.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, it just knows how to fight it.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, this is the thing. It's like it's frightening. Yeah,
it's frightening, isn't it that It's like he's spending this
sort of ship basically, so he later claimed.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Sorry, it's not like HIV. You're not going to catch
that twice.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
No, precisely and shake it off like so that you're
more robust for the next time. No, no, it's doesn't
work like that. But he they might want to claim
or not knowing this article but later is all around
the same time you started saying that vaccines were completely unnecessary,
and then here's a classic asymptomatic spread of COVID. In fact,
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atomatic spread of any disease was a myth. So it's
interesting that you've just brought a p HIV there, because
obviously that shows that asymptomatic spread of diseases is not
a myth. It's ridiculous anyway. So this was actually picked
up by the mainstream press and they said A Facebook
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post features a video of Pfizer's former vice president Michael Yedon,
who claims that it defies common sense. People with no
symptoms can spread a virus like the ones that cause
COVID nineteen. The idea, for example, that you can be
ill this is Yeden speaking, even though you have no symptoms,
and you can be a respiracy virus sech as someone else,
even if you have no symptoms. That's also invented in
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twenty There's simply no history of it, and it defies
common sense as well. Yeah, no, that's absolutely accurate because
prior to twenty twenty, I'd never heard of anybody catching
a disease without like asymptomatically. I heard you, I say,
you'd never heard of HIV or anything like that. Like
you'd never heard of typhoid mary? Had you? You've never
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heard of like people catching herpees, like people like Derek
Jetta giving fucking herpes to half of the beautiful women
in Hollywood. Like you never heard of anything like that?
Had you?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
What a ridiculous statement. It's just again, but this highlights
the degree of unreality that people were desperate to sort
of gravitate towards during COVID, which make little sense. Basically.
You then went on to say, most of you don't
need a vaccine at all. Most of you will be
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well advised to stay away from experimental vaccines unfortunately that
do come with a blood clot risk. Why would you
take a risk with your health for something that's not
a threat to you. He then claimed that basically all
the COVID vaccines were completely unsafe, and he decided that
the best course of action was to write a letter
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to the European Medicines Agency alongside a German physician called
Wolfgang wodarg and they in this letter called for all
vaccine trials to be stopped, falsely suggesting that the mRNA
vaccines could target the sin sitting one protein which is
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apparently needed for placenta formation. So what he's saying and
what they were saying in this thing is that basically
these vaccines will make you infertile, because he'd spotted something
about this particular protein which is required for the manufacturer
inside of view of a placenta. But this wasn't his
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only claim about vaccines. There was a telegram account that
was also connected to it had his name on it.
It seems to be his telegram account. Can you guess
what other theory he had about the vaccines, Brent or
go on?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It was a depopulation thing.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, well, yes, obviously, yeah. Yeah, but he had one
very specific claim that was fashionable at a time.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Or it gives you aids.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, no, no, not quite but but but good guess
that they make you magnetic.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
He was one of the people that promoted the idea
that if you take the vaccine you would become magnetic.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Which there's too many stupid claims.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Oh yeah, no, it's yeah, it's very very stupid, very
very stupid. Indeed, So anyway, this thing about the insight
in one protein is that? Is that worrying? Well apparently not.
The BBC debunked him, and I know we can't trust
the BBC, but anyway, they said a widely shared petition
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for Michael Eden, the scientific research is made misleading statements
about COVID claiming that this current coronavirus is spike protein
contained within the phis of Maderna vaccines was similar to
a protein called sincight in one, which is involved in
forming the placenta. He speculated that this might cause antibodies
against the virus to attack a developing pregnancy. Now, some
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experts actually believe that this was the origin that the
official origin of the whole belief that COVID vaccines might
harm fertility, because we saw that throughout. I mean, we
still hear that, oh it turns up in the ovaries
and stupid shit like this, which don't of it's true.
But apparently sincight in one and the coronavirus spike proteins
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they are quite similar, and that was the concern that
Yedin and Wodarg had. But they're only about as similar
as any two random proteins, so there's no real reason
to believe that the body might confuse them at all,
because you know, the body could recognize proteins. It's just
it's just again, it's just junk science. It's just bullshit.
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But apparently evidence has actually been gathered that this proves
his theory. Anyway, a US fertility doctor called Randy Morris, which,
let's be honest, is a pretty damn fine name for
a fertility doctor. He wanted to respond directly to the
concern to what he's heard, and basically so he began
monitoring his patients who were undergoing IVF treatment to see
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whether the vaccination made any difference to their chances of
completing a successful pregnancy. Now, it was only a small study,
but basically, of the one hundred and forty three people
in doctor Morris's study, vaccinated, unvaccinated, and also previously affected,
women were about equally likely to have a successful embrri
implantation and for the pregnancy to continue to turn. And
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the women were similar in most other respects. So basically,
like that was pretty much the only variable. And he
pointed out doctor Randy Morris that although the study was small,
it's not what. It's not the size of it, it's
what you do with it. Essentially. He said that he
adds up to a large volume of other evidence and
if if the claim was true, Michael Yame's claim, you
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would expect to see a spike in the data, even
in such a small sample size. I mean, if it's
killing all of them, which is what he's claiming, you'd
expect to see it happen at least once. And it did.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Just didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It just didn't. It's just bullshit. In twenty twenty one,
he decided, and he's rubbing shoulders with ah big media
figures here. Do you want to have a guess whose podcast?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
He went on, Uh no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Steve Bannon, like human scalp Steve Bannon. Yeah, And he
said in yeah, well yeah, so you know this is
the thing. But this was he was useful for all
these people, wasn't he Because he gives an air ofbleuthority,
and he's going to say what they want to say,
which is going to undermine whoever they want to undermine
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it that pertical moment, basically, but he went on Steve
Bannon's thing and said, and I quote, it's a crazy thing.
To vaccinate children with something that is actually fifty times
more likely to kill them than the virus itself. So
what he's saying there is that the vaccine is fifty
times more likely to kill a child than contracting COVID.
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It's just nonsense. It couldn't possibly be true otherwise you
know how many dead children we'd have seen. It's just nonsense,
absolutely nonsense. And do you know what evidence he's got
to back that up?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Er?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Fuck all? Yeah, absolutely, fuck all. He just decided to
pull it out of his ars. One thing that he
is known for doing is misrepresenting veyers, the vaccine advice,
evidence whatever, blah blah blah reports, and a lot of
people do this. Can you believe that anyone could put
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any old shit on veyers? There was one who was it.
There was charting. It was a fabulous website that there
was charting all these these ridiculous things. One of the
there was all sorts of ones on there. Making your
penis grow very big, making your penis grow very very small,
turning you gay was one. One person said that it
made all their muscles swell up and they went temporarily green,
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like the Incredible Hulk. So the point is that you
can put anything on veyers. Can you believe that people
have a vested interest in following these things up so
they do actually check them afterwards? And it's just nonsense.
He also and the beginning of COVID said that hydroclocks,
chloroquin inhaled steroids, vitamin D and i'm of mexin are
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all effective against the virus. Although that one of those
things where it's like, well, why do you care because
you've already said that the virus may not exist and
doesn't affect people anyway, So why are you promoting all
of these shitty fucking things that don't help people with COVID? Anyway?
That was one of the things that I never understood,
all these people pushing i've e. Mecting with the people
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that were basically saying that it's like it doesn't exist,
then why are you taking this I So anyway, the
mainstream first picked up on Yeden around this time, and
there was a really great exposee by Reuters and he
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reported on Yeden and spoke to a lot of his
ex colleagues and it was called yedon the x sfisor
scientists who became an anti vax hero, and the article
said in recent months, Yeden pronounced Jeden has emerged as
an unlikely hero of the so called anti vaxus. His
adherents questioned the safety of many vaccines, including for the coronavirus.
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The anti vaxxer movement has amplified Yiden's skeptical views about
COVID nineteen vaccines, antests, government mandated lockdown, and the arc
of the pandemic. Yidin has said that he personally doesn't
oppose the use of all vaccines, but many health experts
and government officials worry that opinions like his fuel vaccine hesitancy,
which is a reluctance or a refuser to be vaccinated,
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and that could prolong the pandemic. At this point, COVID
has already killed more than two point six million people worldwide.
These claims that makes a false dangerous and deeply irresponsible,
said a spokesman for Britain's Department of Health and Social
Care when asked about Yeden's views COVID to nineteen vaccines
are the best way to protect people from the coronavirus
and will save thousands of lives. In January, a serving
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by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit organization, found that
thirteen percent of unvaccinated people in the United States has
heard that COVID nineteen vaccines have been shown to cause
in fertility. What gives yied in particular credibility is the
fact that he worked at Pfizer, says Imrand Ahmed, who's
the chief executive for the Center for Countering Digital Hate,
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which is an organization that combats online misinformation. Yeden's background
gives his dangerous and harmful messages false credibility. In a
debate last fall in Britain's House of Commons about the
government's response to the pandemic, Parliamentarian Richard Drax called Yediin
an eminent scientist, and he cited his view that the
virus is both manageable and nearing its end. Drax didn't
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respond to a request for comment on this article, but
more recently, David Curtain that more Run, a member of
the London Assembly, an elected body, tweeted that there is
a real danger that COVID nineteen vaccines could leave women infertile.
The cure must not be worse than the disease, Curtain wrote,
but he too didn't respond to requests for comment in
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this particular article, Why Yeden transformed from mainstream scientists to
COVID nineteen vaccine skeptic remains a mystery. Thousands of tweets
stretching back to the start of the pandemic document a
dramatic shift in his views. Early on, he supported the
vaccine strategy, but they offer few clues to explain why
he had this radical turnaround. Some former colleagues at fires
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US say they no longer recognize than Mike Eden, who
wants who they once knew, and they described him as
a knowledgement and intelligent man who always insisted on seeing
evidence and generally avoided publicity. One of those ex colleagues
is sturgios A Marschus, who holds degrees in molecular biology
and pharmaceutics. In December, Yiden posted on Twitter a spoof
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sign that said ditch the mask. Marschust tweeted back, Mike,
what the hell are you actively trying to kill people?
You do realize that if you are wrong your suggestion
will result in deaths. When the coronavirus pandemic reached the
UK in March twenty twenty, Yi didn't initially expressed support
for developing a vaccine. He tweeted, COVID nineteen is not
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going away until we have a vaccine or herd immunity,
which is natural resistance resulting from prior exposure to the virus.
Who went on to say that all that can be
done is to slow its spread. A week later, he tweeted,
and this is in March twenty twenty. A vaccine might
be along towards the end of twenty twenty one if
we are really lucky. But then a fellow Twitter user
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responded to him and said that vaccines harm many, many people,
and Yedidn't replied, Okay, please refuse it, but do not
impede its flow to neutrals or those keen to get it.
Thanks ironic. This obviously would change as time went on.
So while Britain, this is going back to the article. Sorry,
while Brittain is still in his first lockdown. Last spring,
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he declared there is nothing especially virulent or frightening about
COVID nineteen. It will all fade away and it's just
a common and garden virus, to which the world overreacted,
and he predicted in a subsequent tweet that it was
unlikely that the death toll in the UK will even
reach forty thousand by September twenty twenty. Yd's statements were
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attracting attention beyond Twitter. At the time, a movement and
immerged in Britain against locke down and other restrictions meant
to curb the disease. He co aorted a lengthy article
on a website called Lockdown Skeptics. It declared that the
pandemic as an event in the UK is essentially complete
and that there is no biological principle that leads us
to a second wave. Written soon entered a much more
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deadly second wave. Great October the sixteenth, he wrote another
lengthy article for the same website in which he said
there is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic.
I've never heard such nonsense talking about vaccines. You do
not vaccinate people who aren't at risk from a disease,
which by the way, is just simply not true. You
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do to mitigate the spread of it anyway. In November,
Union appeared in a thirty two minute video for an
anti lockdown group a title called Unlocked, and no one
picked up on the masonic overtones of that, but they
were there if you had eyes to see anyway. In
this video, he's sitting in a shed with a motorbike
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behind him, and it's titled the Pandemic Is Over. Many
former colleagues say that they're absolutely baffled by his transformation.
Mark Trehearn, who is the chairman of Talisman Therapeutics in Cambridge,
so that it overlapped with the unit fis for about
two years and sometimes has been for a coffee with him.
He always seemed knowledgeable, intelligible, a good scientist. We were
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both trained as pharmacologists, so we had something in common.
I obviously, I obviously disagree with Mike and his recent views,
he said. Trey Hearn's company is researching brain inflammation, which
he said could be triggered by coronaviruses. This does not
sound like the guy I knew twenty years ago. So Mochos,
the ex colleague who took issue with one of his tweets,
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said that he considered him a mental when they work
together aug at the drug maker from two thousand and
eight to twenty eleven. But more recently, Mochos has been
researching whether it's possible to test for COVID nineteen breath samples.
He said, Yiden's views are huge disappointment, and he recounted
hearing yidin in a radio interview last year, oh Police
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after us. There was a tone in his voice that
was nothing like I ever remembered of. Mike Mosho said,
it was very angry, very bitter. Earlier this year, a
group of Yiden's former Piser colleagues expressed their concerning a
private letter. According to a draft reviewed by Rochards, and
this was obviously sent to Michael Yedin, We've become acutely
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aware of your views on COVID nineteen over the last
few months. The single mindness, the lack of scientific rigor,
and the one sided interpretation of often poor quality data
is far removed from the Mike Eden we so respected
and enjoyed working with. Noting that his vast following on
social media and that his claim about infertility has spread globally,
the group wrote, we were really worried, very worried that
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you're putting people's health at risk. And obviously they mentioned
a lot of tweets that Yiden had been sort of
pumping out that obviously charted his shift in his opinion.
In twenty twenty one. Shortly after this article came out,
Zelo Street, which is an excellent political blog, uncovered several
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tweets that could be described as racist and bigoted that
were from Michael Yedion's account on Twitter, and he immediately
went into damage control. He tweeted out a recent a
tweet recently appeared under my ID which was horribly offensive.
As a result, my account was locked. I of course
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deleted it. I want to know, of course, that I
didn't write it, and that was in twenty twenty one,
and that would be more believable, right if in twenty twenty,
almost a year before this tweet, he tweeted, all the
way around, Shariah is in capital letters their legal system.
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That's what we have. Apparently, that's what we will have.
Apparently in a few areas already. It's not only Muslims
who won't go to the police but instead sort things
out according to their beliefs and whatever their extreme nookcase
at the local mosque preaches. He also tweeted there have
been scores of suspicious deaths of young women in the
UK in recent years, none of which have been investigated
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because a first blush, the police decided that they were
honor killings and they aren't going to get into that,
which is absolutely dreadful. He also said he also said
it gets worse. He has said in twenty twenty they're concerned,
will be concerned if it turns out to be true
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that almost every grooming gang in torpedo rape and buggery
are Pakistani Muslims. He also tweeted out in twenty twenty,
remember underaged, unbeliever girls deserve no respect and any part
of their bodies can be used for Muslim pleasure. He
also tweeted out in twenty twenty there was a pseudo
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scientific paper aut recently which claimed that there wasn't a
specific offense of gang grooming of children, so there couldn't
be a report on it. Also that Muslim men of
Pakistani heritage were disproportionately involved. This was fake news. I
told you that they were disproportionally involved was fake news.
I call bullshit. He also said I've heard someone so
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important that I've heard to the Twitter vine that the
grooming gang report has been leaked, and Michael Yedion responded,
currently it's making its way down the inner thigh of
a fourteen year old Rochdale schoolgirl, which is class. He
also tweeted out in the UK, at least I've searched
but cannot find any non islam majority pedophile grooming and
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long term rape gangs. Go and look in the EDL.
Plenty of individuals rape, but this revolting gang phenomenon is
almost exclusively a crime committed by Muslim mostly of Pakistani heritage. Why.
I have no idea. It's just simply not true. Eighty
five percent of sex cases are white male. Just not true,
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absolutely not true.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
When was he breaking holadays twenty twenty, twenty twenty, so
what like around the time of the pandemic?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Then yeah, yeah, it was clearly bored February. In March
twenty twenty, basically someone wrote out, these are legals and Muslims.
Why did they not go near their Muslim neighbors? Do
they see them as a security threat? And he wrote
insufficient numbers of kafir under aged females, which are fair
gained to certain Muslims, those who interpret Muhammad's relationship with
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female children as fat and legitimate. This is disputed by others.
Ash Sarkar wrote the stabbings in New York. This was
in December of twenty nineteen, the stabbings in New York
and the graffiti and Belsize Park and have stood a
part of an international growth and anti Semitic violence and hatred.
Muslims have a response ps ability to stand in solidarity
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with our Jewish brothers and sisters. Our struggles against racism
are sheared, which is a perfectly reasonable stand for solidarity,
and Michael Yedon responded, breathtaking. In multiple countries where Jews
have recently been frightened or attack, Muslims are more often
than any other group identified by the victims of the
originature of the fear attack. My guess is that they'd
rather you maintain a distance rather than you stand near
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to them. So he's clearly got a bit of a
problem with with Muslims. He says, there are zero white
grooming gangs, plenty of white pedos. Get your clients right.
And this was in response to what's wrong with you?
You've never heard of Epstein nor his most famous client,
Prince Andrew. Oh right, that doesn't account because he offered
himself in prison and he said, that's not a greaming
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gang of using the same young teams for years. I
know there are white pedos. But the gang emo is
unique to Muslims mostly pakistanis or are you so hung
up about that that you won't concede that there as
many kinds of abuse and details just simply don't seem
to match it to you. That's also fucking bullshit. Like
there's been newest there was that grooming gang in Whales
(42:06):
that was recently found. You could make the same accusation
about the Catholic Church for Fox's sake, like or Scout
Masters growing When Scouts was the place where you go
and get fogged as a kid, Well, that wasn't the
primary It was more about learning nots and camping and
stuff like that. But in some cases that was that
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was the thing. Now here's an interesting tweet from Michael
yedon Google Muslim and goat rape. There's a disturbing and
quite definitive YouTube video. No grooming involved, but defoe non consensual.
Now that implies, well, it doesn't imply. It states that
he's been watching best Yell of porn online and that
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he's googled it, so.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
He's promoting it. Yeah, people to go watch it.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
He also tweeted to make the advents particularly appealing to
Muslim men of Pakistani heritage. H our telephone number has
been tattooed onto the backsides of all white girls starting
secondary school. I'll probably get banned for this, but I'm
only teasing. I meant fourteen year olds obviously, And he's
such a wit. He goes on a good half pint
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of Muslim come injected into those girls strong chance of serious,
potentially life course changing STIs on top of the sex
abuse and threats to the life traumas they suffered. These
young victims should have received probably priority CAMH care. Did
they get anyone? Does anyone know? So that's Michael Yudion
expressing heartfelt compassion and concern that these girls might have
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too much Muslim come in them. You know, I don't
think anyone could could see that His primary focus there
is the safety of children and not using the abuse
of children as a disgusting tool to spread your racism.
Some might say exploiting those children, which is ironic, seeing
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as that's what the rape gangs did. Holy hey, hey ho.
In twenty twenty one, you just started claiming that basically
the mRNA vaccine would actually release large amounts of spike
proteins into people which would eventually make them ill and
kill them. And this was simply not true, mostly because
it didn't actually have any spike protein in it. That
(44:23):
was one of the major flaws in it. He also
claimed that in the UK you could not refuse the
vaccine and if he did, they would forcibly inject you
or cut you off and imprison you and then forcibly
inject you. Do you remember that happening in the UK, Brent,
I don't, no, no, no, But that was his concern.
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And he started going on sort of more sort of
quacky places like the Delling Pod. If we had air horns,
there'd be air horns there. So imagine that air horns
went off. Yeah it did. There go like, you know,
it put some effort in you. We can't do all
the work, audience, You've got to use your imaginations sometimes. Anyway,
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it went on Delling Pod and he spoke about PCR
tests and MACS masks and the lockdown and this is
what Eden said. But I would just say quickly, you
can't trust this government and its advisors. That's PCR testing
masks and any of anyone of you can do a
quick Google search effective masks on respiratory viral transmission. There's
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loads of studies out there. They definitely do not reduce
respiratory viral transmission, and the government knows that. So why
are they making children wear them at school? Why do
they make you wear them when you wander around shops.
You can't trust this government or its advisors. The reason
you don't need masks is that what they tell you
about you as well, that one in three people are
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carrying the virus and could be spreading it without knowing it.
That's a lie. It's absolutely clear that people without symptoms
don't have enough virus in their body respiratory maneuvers to
get it out of their body. This is just fucking bullshit.
It's just utter bullshit. It's just not even close to
being true. He's just made it up. And the whole
mask thing has always pissed me off as well as
(46:11):
it's like, aside from the fact that you don't wear masks,
it traps the disease in the mask and makes you ill. Well,
I thought you said it wasn't an effective barrier. Like
when you sneeze, why do you put your handkerchief up
to your nose or your hand in front of your face.
Like this is what really annoyed me about the whole
thing is like people started gaslighting themselves and going like
(46:34):
things that we've known for years, just pretending that we
didn't know these things. That coffs and sneeze has spread diseases.
That was a fucking there was a song coffs and
caesars spread diseases. Catch the germs in your handkerchief, like
larger up on my tony handcock fans out there anyway,
Like the point is that these are all things that
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people know. Children fucking know this, and people were so
desperate for an out that they went, maybe that's true.
Maybe all those things that I've known since a child
aren't true. Like it's just crazy, he went on sane
or too Infectionably, you have to be full of virus
and symptomatic. Those two things occurred together, and it's called ill.
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If you've got this virus and you've got enough of
it to be able to cough it on another person,
you're going to feel ill. You're probably saying home, you
might be in bed, and if you're older, you're probably
in hospital. Typhoid Mary, anyone we're going to talk about
typhoid Mary the whole premise that she'd spread typhoid to
people because she didn't know that she had it. It's
a very famous case. Like just honestly, it's bullshit. It's
(47:43):
absolute bullshit. So if you don't have symptoms, it means
you don't have enough virus to spread it on people,
which means that you don't need masks anyway. If you're
feeling if you're feeling well, you can't trust this government
or its advisors. And then maybe the fourth one lockdowns.
Of course, being told lockdowns reducers cases, they don't. They've
been studied in at least two dozen peer review journal
(48:06):
articles by some of the best scientists in the world.
As you probably know, the states in the United States
at lockdown did at lockdown or lockdown harder. There's no
connection whatsoever between lockdown and extringencies. That's how much you
were meant to stay at home and away from other
people and the outcome in terms of death. That's demonstrably
not true. And the best example of that is when
Sweden decided to basically start implementing They already had a lockdown,
(48:31):
but it was a sort of voluntary lockdown, and they
closed down schools and bars and anyone and places with
more than I forget when the twenty five or fifty patrons,
and then later and as technol came out, says, yeah,
we should have locked down harder and stronger, and very
very sorry. I killed people essentially and decided to impose small,
stringent views. This again that the data simply doesn't support it.
(48:55):
Now people are still making these fucking bullshit arguments now
and we've got the data to make it. At the time,
you could understand why people were potentially more skeptical. It's
still stupid, but it's more understandable. And Yedin goes on
to say that I can now explain to you and
it's taken me embarrassingly about ten months before I realized it.
And it's back to what I just said. You need
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to be symptomatic before you can infect others, which is
just not true. In twenty twenty one, he started going
on about the vaccines being used as a depopulation tool,
and this statement was shown on the incredibly respectable life
site news Mike Yedon, ex chief scientist at Pfizer, which
is not what he was The stated that it's now
(49:37):
too late to save any person who's been injected with
the COVID nineteen vaccines. So you know, sorry, anyone that's listed,
you're dead. He urges those that have not yet been
injected with the deadly compound to fight for the continuation
of humans and the lives of their children. The world
acclaimed immunologist, which is not, goes on to outline the process,
(49:57):
which he says, we'll kill the vast majority of people
now alive immediately on receipt of the first injection. Around
zero point eight percent of people will die within two
weeks which didn't happen. The survivors have a life expectancy
of two years on average, but this is decreased with
every booster that also didn't happen. Yider states that the
final goal of the currently administrated regime of vaccinations can
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only be a mass depopulation event, which will make the
World Wars combined seem like a Mickey Mouse production. Billions
are already condemned to certain unchangeable and agonizing deaths. Each
person who has received the injection will will certainly die prematurely,
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and three years is a generous estimate for how long
they can expect to remain alive. That was a statement
made by Michael Eden five years ago. In this interview,
you also stated, I believe that they're going to be
used to damage your health and possibly kill you. I
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can see no sensible interpretation other than a serious attempt
at mass depopulation. Or maybe maybe they did what they
said to you were doing. That's the other alternative. But no,
apparently we've all got a limited time. We're all on
borrowed time and or dead. So Yuni goes on to say,
(51:23):
let's we'll provide the tools to do it and plausible
deny it deniability because they'll create another story about some
sort of biological threat, and you'll line up to get
your top up vaccines, and in a few months or
a year or so later, you'll die of some peculiar,
explicable syndrome that they won't be able to associate it,
and they won't be able to able to associate it
with the top up vaccines. Again, I'll point out that
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absolutely none of these things happened, not even close. He
went on to tell of you is that everything your
government has told you about this virus, everything you need
to do to stay safe, is a lie. And they
added that lockdowns and other preventative measures were totalent tearing control.
This system is being put into place using lies, and
it's been put into place for some purpose, and I
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believe that that purpose is complete totalitarian control, and I
think the purpose of that is going to be mass depopulation,
said Yeden. I can't think of a single benign interpretation
for the simple creation of these top up vaccines, let
alone the lies that surround them. Absolutely terrified that the
combination of vaccine passports and top up vaccines is going
(52:29):
to lead to the mass depopulation and the deliberate execution
possibly of billions of people. But luckily none of that happened.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Billions.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
Wow, yeah, fucker duck Yeah. Absolutely, Now there was something
strange that happened. At this point, he started to actually
fall out with some people within the conspiracy world, Like
despite previously saying that he supported the use of this
particular drug, he started saying that iver Metin was dangerous.
(53:03):
And this is an interesting one because he again was
this live event that was hosted by delling Pole. I
don't know which one it was. It might have been
the one where David Light got into a row with
James delling Pole, but I can't remember anyway, he said it,
this iver metin is one of the most violent fertility
toxins that I've ever come across in some of limits
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and studies in humans, it reduces the ability to conceive
and grow babies, which needless to say, is not true.
Like again, I wouldn't recommend taking iver a metin for
COVID because it just simply won't help. And I certainly
wouldn't recommend taking the animal doses because as we know
from the exploits from people like Jay Widner, it will
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give you explosive diarrhea for several days that basically results
in what he described as black oil being ejected violently
from his body for hours on end, although he did
come to the realization that this was maybe not the
lining of his stomach and compacted shit, but actually the arkons,
the arkans, which are sort of demons that live in
(54:08):
your soul, and he wondered whether, basically because these are
essentially parasitic, he was shitting the mouse in himself. Probably not,
but anyway, Also in September twenty twenty one, weirdly Y
didn't met up with this toy MP to discuss the pandemic.
This was reported by The Sunday Times. A group of
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conspiracy theorists who believed that vaccines are a tool for
mass deep population said that they'd met the head of
the Conservative Parties nineteen twenty two committee in Westminster last week.
The group's members, who maintained that ministers may be criminal
are criminally liable for killing people, say that they told
the MP Sir Graham Brady, the vaccination should be stopped immediately.
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Brady had previously endorsed a report by Heart, a separate
organization linked to some of those at the meeting, which
included claims that vaccines have already killed tens of thousand
Britain's He would not confirm whether this meeting took place,
but he said that he backed vaccines and listening to
views does not amount to an endorsement, which basically says
that he did meet with them. But you know, there
(55:12):
you go. It was a cavalcade. It was an absolute razzalstack.
Brent like like the people that were there were Anna
de Brissa, the lawyer who has since died, I believe
of cancer because she refused to take conventional treatment and
decided to go down the quack crew. Mark Sexton, the
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disgraced former policeman who called for the arrest of Nudim's Hawaii.
The former Vaccines Mission spent He spent the last five
years touting this crime number, which he says means that
the dangerous murder campaign of the vaccines was being investigated
by the police, whereas the police will tell you that
(55:54):
that means no such thing and that they think he's
a pratt. Also was Michael yedon so and this week
Segston posted a video on social media saying that the
meter they had a meeting with the senior Tory MP,
which is obviously Graham Brady. John o'looney, the apply named
(56:15):
funeral director who believes that thousands of old people were
secretly euthanized in care homes, later added that the MP
was Brady, so he can't keep his fucking mouth shut.
Simon Clark, the Associate professor in SOLLIU Microbiology at the
University of Reading, said that it's extremely unwise for policymakers
to give credence to opinions they have no basis in
(56:36):
observed fact. Scientific evidence cannot be debated like a popularity contest.
The vaccine programmer has been a great success it's important
for MPs to listen to members of the public, but
clearly that there's not an amount to an endorsement of
their views, and that was actually Brady after the fact,
so to be fair, but they didn't stop there. In
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December twenty twenty, o'loney, who's best known for basically good Yeah,
he's that fucking coroner or whatever, that keeps claiming, yeah,
the undertaker that keeps not a coroner, sorry, like he's
not that qualified. He keeps claiming that he finds fibrous
clots in the bodies of people that have died from
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the COVID vaccine, and people that actually know what they're
talking have pointed out several problems with this thesis of his.
One that he shouldn't be pulling shit out of people's
veins because that goes beyond his brief and he's essentially
tampering with the corpses of customers, which is a crime.
Two that that's what happens to all blood in veins
(57:41):
after death. They turn into these white fibrous clots. It's
not uncommon. And three, and perhaps most damning, that some
of the pictures that he's shown that appeared to be
that he claims to be fibrous clots in in people's
veins have been identified as people that know what they're
talking about, as dandelion stems and weeds from the garden.
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The man is a fraud anyway, him the perpetually disheveled Corbin,
what's his fucking name, Piers Corbin, Mark Sexton and Yeden.
They filed a request to the International Criminal Court, the ICC,
and what they wanted was the ICC to investigate and
(58:28):
prosecute Boris Johnson, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab for war crimes,
crimes against humanity and the genocide of the population of Britain,
which I may remind you didn't happen. But anyway, they
requested that the ICC start investigating this, and curiously, the
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ICC seemed reluctant to listen to a word that these
blithering idiots had to say, which was obviously inter as
them being in on the plot. So anyway, Michael Yedin
has got this new film out called Final Warning, and
in it right he says that he's a lifetime research
(59:14):
scientist and he worked in the farmer industry for thirty
two years. And I immediately went, oh, you shouldn't have
said that, because obviously thirty two years indicates that he's
clearly a freemason. That's the only possible explanation for the
use of that particular number. He goes on to saying,
my most senior positions were at PISA. I was vice
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president and worldwide head of research in allergic and respiratory diseases.
But since twenty twenty, I've been speaking out against the
fraudulent pandemic and the intentionally dangerous injections. And I don't
want to be completely pedantic, but that the injections only
came out in December of twenty twenty. So he's slightly
devastating himself. He then goes on to say that the
(59:57):
pandemic was fake and he's been censored and smeared, and
now he's giving up. This is going to be this
is his Swanson, This is his final thing. Basically, this
is like this is like that Black Sabbath gig that
happened the other day. That's it, forget it. It's not
having to no more. He's fucking done with it all.
(01:00:17):
And the reason that he's done with it all is
because he keeps being censored and no one will let
him say what he wants to say, and he reinforces
this by pointing out that he's done over three hundred interviews,
which somewhat undoes the previous sentence that suggests that he's
been censored, because if it's but anyway 's like he
(01:00:43):
then says that the vaccines are not vaccines, which obviously
they are. I mean, it's again, like you can tell
it's the way that it's spelled is the first clue.
But anyway, he says that there was there just wasn't
a pandemic. That essentially there was never a COVID panel,
and if there was, which there wasn't, it was definitely
(01:01:04):
exaggerated to panic people, but there wasn't one, which is
you know, incoherence at best. But basically regardless, there was
no real health problem and even if there was, which
there wasn't, it wasn't serious, and therefore there was no
need for vaccines. And by that logic one can only
determine that the vaccine must be evil, which makes sense
(01:01:28):
when you pass it out like that. He said, it's
literally not possible for the injections to be helpful to anyone.
And I'd like to point out at this point that
that's just obviously not true, because you know, we saw
far worse outcomes in places with lower rates of vaccination,
(01:01:48):
and we saw a tapering off of the spread of
cases as more people became vaccinated. Also, we have data
to show that the vaccine helps people with long COVID,
even people that weren't previously vackaccinated. Some symptoms of long
COVID are alleviated if they have a belated vaccine. Also,
excess deaths stopped after the mass vaccination, which wouldn't have stopped,
(01:02:13):
it would have continued as and it would have gone
in line with the vaccination, as opposed to what actually happened,
which was excess deaths happened with waves of the disease. Also,
as I say, country with lower rates of vaccination or
far higher death rates. But he's not arrogant, Mike, Heaven
(01:02:35):
forbid he and he wants to remind you, and this
is his own words that he is the most qualified
person in the entire world to say this. But he's
not arrogant. He saw stuff in the vaccines that shouldn't
have been there, and there was no reason for it
(01:02:56):
to be there.
Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Brent.
Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Now he doesn't elaborate what these things were.
Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
I was going to say, what metals?
Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Who fucking knows? And he doesn't know how. He doesn't
explain how. Yeah, probably, he doesn't explain how he identified this,
And he doesn't highlight the fact that he's never ever
worked in the field of vaccines the deluded four, but
he goes on to say that he knows, and I'll
remind you that he is the most qualified person in
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the world to tell you this. That they have been
designed intentionally to injure, to kill, and to reduce fertility.
And that's a bit over the top, isn't it. Why
would you need to reduce fertility if you're killing people.
Why would you need to kill people if you're reducing fertility,
Why are you injuring these poor, dying people who can't
even sire an offspring. It's just over the top. But
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I suppose that just highlights how evil the illuminati are. Also,
if that was the plan, they were shit because it
just didn't happen. But he's got an X for this,
he has got an next vation, so I don't really
think he's not thought this through. I never claimed that
it would do it to a lot of people or
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that it would be quick, except he did specifically, I'm
was saying at the time, I don't think they want
to risk injuring and killing a lot of people early
because people will spot it. Except that's not what he said.
He said that everyone will be dead within three years,
So he's not even internally consistent. But also there were
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loads of deaths that people spotted so much that the
conspiracy crowd had to start blaming it on nurses and
doctors murdering people. So why not just if this is
the plan, if it's a depopulation thing, why don't you
kill people with the virus and tell people it's the virus.
Why do you need this fucking convoluted, over complicated bond
villain thing where it's like, ah, there's a thing that's
supposed to save you. Is the thing that kills you
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from the thing that doesn't actually kill hi, which is
the thing that we tell you that kills you, Which
is why you'll go and rush to get the thing
that kills you even though you think it saves you.
That's that's fucking stupid. This a real fucking Goldstein machine
of a plot. It's ridiculous. Also, again he said that
he said on Steve Banner Show that the virus was
sorry that the vaccine was fifty times more likely to
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kill a child than the vaccine. So he's just lying,
even within within his own ship. His end starts being
because he seems to be pivoting to a sort of
more broader, generalized ground conspiracy arc, and he's worried about
the use of digital old cash and digital IDs, and
he foresees a scenario where your digital ID will not
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be valid if you don't have all your vaccines. Don't
dunt dunn. And you know he shows this because he's
found this company called You've Becker eu V A B
E c A, and he's found that they're proposing a
digitized source for all vaccine statuses to ease travel. And
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what he says is that this has proved that the
EU envisions of future were everyone has a digital ID,
and this digital ID will only be valid if you
have the latest, up to date vaccinations, which he seems
to say is inherently bad. But he surmises that this
means that they plan regular new injections for everybody every
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year for the rest of their lives until they're dead.
And again that made me think I thought they were
to kill you. Why do we need lots of them?
But anyway, so anyway he shows this you Rebecker thing
and can you believe Brent, it doesn't say what he
thinks it is, like what he's saying is that this
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is essentially like a vaccine passport. Of course, yeah, this
is what he's saying. And then it's an EU plot
And basically this is going to be for everyone because
we are all going to be constantly given up new vaccines, right,
But what's actually about is about consolidating records for easier
access to the user, not for other agencies for the user. Also,
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and this is an important part. We are in the
fucking EU, so that somewhat undermines his fears. Also, this
is from the website that she puts. Is the European
Vaccination Card voluntary for citizens? Yes, both have pilot projects,
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and the European Vaccination Card have been designed to be
entirely voluntary for citizens. The EVC is a digital version
of paper based vaccination cards, which allow individuals to own
and manage their own vaccination data. It doesn't use the
centralized data storage system and for other people to be
able to access the citizens' data. The citizen must intentionally
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send their data or show their EVC to someone else,
so it's voluntary, and it's there basically so that somebody
can say I've got it all in one handy file,
rather than how to go to different places. And they
don't even share the data with other people. But what
about this idea about you won't be able to travel.
I'll be traveling to the EU soon. Do I need
(01:08:05):
to apply for a European Vaccination Card? No? You do
not need to apply for a European Vaccination Cards traveling
in the EU. The EVC is not a certificate or
a passport. It is still in the planning stages, with
pilot projects set to take place in only five countries
during twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, and these
pilots are completely voluntary. But does the European Vaccine Card
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mean that I will be refused entry if I haven't
had certeen vaccines? There's a big one, Brent, which you
think it says? No, the EVC is a person record
and not a regulatory document. It's designed to help individuals
keep track of their own vaccinations for their own health
and continuity of care. Entry requirements of countries are determined
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by those countries. The EVC does not impose any restrictions
or requirements for entry, so it's just made up. That's
one of the classic tactics CT make it look like
something similar and hope that people don't check. And then
he starts ranting on about how this is all bullshit,
and now he knows that it's totalitarianism because basically being
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vaccinated doesn't protect anyone who gainst fucking anything which is bullshit,
like rabies. He does, he really does malaria, like, if
you're vaccinated, it lessens the chances you can catch it.
If lesson's chance he can catch it, lesson's a chance
he could spread it. It's very straightforward. He also goes
on to say that he personally and he must remember
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that he is the most qualified person in the entire
world to say this would recommend that no one has
any vaccines at all. And at this point Polio enters
the chat and beats him to death with ian Jury's
walking stick, like the man's a fucking idiot anyway. He
then goes on to say when of governments ever cared
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about people's health, Therefore, any health measures that have ever
been rolled out ever? Are just an excuse, And it's like, oh,
fuck off, what are you a fourteen year old he's
about to form a punk band, like, grow the fuck up.
I'll tell you when governments start to care about people's health,
when it starts to cost them money, when people can yeah,
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the bottom line, when the fucking economies start to collapse
because people can't go to work, or this is the
possibility of chaos. And it's like that any health measures
are just an excuse. What like the AIDS education that's
just an excuse? Is it for? What that that was
in the eighties? What was the italitarian like plan of
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the illuminati to force people to use condoms? That take
away on the fillin is that it is that seriously
it twap like honestly, what an idiot? Anyway, He then says,
people who want to kill it always do things. They
give you an excuse, in this case that the vaccine
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will protect you from viruses, but the real reason is
that they want to make you ill and kill you.
And then he never gives second thy so it's like,
what the fuck are you on about, you weird old man?
Like anyway, he then says that all institutions, literally all
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institutions are basically the same. They're all ran by the
Illuminati globalists, and that these same group of people have
been running all of these institutions for hundreds of years,
and that the end goal is complete control of every
person on the planet. And at that point I was
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I thought they wanted as dead. And if they've been
doing this for one hundreds and hundreds of years, why
haven't they achieved it. It's probably because they keep doing
this fucking convolution plots where it's like, no, let's not
just kill them off with a disease. Let's pretend that
we're killing disease and I'm wanted to do some virus
which was there to save them. But the irony of
that is that that kills them. Like, if they've been
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doing this for hundreds of years, why don't they just
like create a religions. Ah, it's that you've all got
to do this. You've all going to jump off the cliff.
You're all going to do that. Like there's a numera
things that if you were in charge of literally every
institution on the planet and have been trying to coerce
the world into control for hundreds of hundreds of years
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that you could do. It would be less complicated than
pretending there was a disease in order to kill people
with a vaccine. But that's not the way that Mike
sees it anyway. So you know, he then says that
they and he doesn't stipulate who they are. He sees
us all as useless eaters. And then he asks us, knowingly,
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leaning towards the camera, where have you heard that phrase before?
And if I'm rually, well, if I don't, We've heard
it in loads of places, like is he talking about
the Nazis? Is he talking about the Committee of three hundred?
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Like is he talking about is he talking about like
anti Semitic things? Like you know, people say that in
the Talimurder first, which it doesn't, but like, you know,
is he talking about that? I don't think he's well, yeah,
but he grew up with the Jewish family, he praises.
Now that doesn't necessarily Now this is potentially truly the thing,
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because you know, there is that irony within the conspiracy
world if like we're not antient Semitic, we're actually like,
you know, we, like all people, we are bore racism
and stuff like that. I mean, obviously it's the Rothschilds,
but but that's not what I was going to say,
is like, think about like Christian militias m, Like those
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people are there, they're Christian, but they're anti Semitic. Yeah,
and a lot of the time they don't know potentially, Yeah, yeah,
I think that's it. He says that the digital ID
will be the end of humanity, and then he goes
on to say that countries already owe so much debt
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that essentially, at some point there will be a financial crisis,
which is obviously engineered, and at that point the banks
will seize everybody's assets. And at this point I was like,
who's fucking assets? I thought they were wanted as dead.
Why don't they just like why do they need this
second elaborate debt based thing to seize everyone's assets? Why
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can't they just wait until we're dead from this other
fucking plot and then take our assets? What are they
going to do with all our assets? Who are they
going to sell them to everyone's debt? No one's got
any fucking money, no one. But what are you going
to do with my coffee? What does the illuminaty want
with my coffee table. Seriously, Brandon, where in the nefarious
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plans does my fucking coffee table fall? I want to
know anyway I want is what is your coffee table?
You got some weird shit in your living room. It's
just a coffee table. It's it's not it's like it's perfect.
He's got a drawer in it. But it didn't belong
to like Yorkshirepper or something like that. No, no, no, no,
it's Dr Crippen's old a pocket three table or something
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like that. No, there's nothing as exciting as that. I
think I got it from. I did get it from Wayfair,
though I was very disappointed that no child was included
with it. But you can't have everything. Maybe you need
to like build up a bit of a membership first.
Maybe it's like club card points. Anyway. He then starts
promoting the work of this guy called David Rogers web
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and he's got this idea from a book called The
Great Taking. And he says that that this guy is
a fucking genius, that he takes all his financial advice
essentially from this guy, and he wrote a book about
it called a Great Taking. Well, anyway, I don't know
forgot about that so I went and found a review
of this book from a website called wealth learning dot com.
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Now the Great Taking, which is a book about finance,
and it's purposed to be a sensible book. The opening
line is, if you prefer consider this a work of
fiction or the ravings of a madman, which is exactly
the sort of thing that I want to hear from
my financial advisor when I'm thinking about investing in something. Anyway,
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the review basically says that this book is fucking ridiculous,
scare wondering, and he goes over its main premises, and
these are things that Yeden brings up in his interview
and says that he believes in this because he's reading
this book. A great depression is on the horizon, and
the velocity of money has begun collapsing. And the review
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says this isn't true. This is exaggerated. Money velocities tends
to fall when interest rates are low, as they've been
for a decade up until now. Low interest rates tend
to keep the opportunity cost of holding cash down. Today,
with higher interest rates, velocity appears to be increasing again.
A temporary lower velocity of money is not indicative of
a great depression anytime soon. No one can really predict
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crises black swan events that lead to financial crises as
seldom predictable. There is a further argument in the book
based on the problems which derivatives and self asset backed
securities during the GFC, but the issues with these instruments
are separate from company stocks, so essentially saying that he's
got this wrong, This isn't indicative of a great depression
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on the horizon, which sat undercuts the concept because you know,
that's his thrust. Second point that the review disagrees with
de materialation of share certificates could pave the way to
confiscation of collateral. According to the book, there are no
property rights to securities held in book entry form in
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any jurisdiction globally, so what they're saying is that basically
can tell your shares off you and stuff like that.
The book. The review says this is completely incorrect. Here
in New Zealand and Australia, many investors buy local shares
directly on the register in their own names, without the
use of the nomineeds, though brokerage can be expensive. De
materialization is the process by which payper certificates for share
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transactions are converted to electronic records. It labels nomine accounts
to be used globally where a broker custodian holds your
shares for you. I completely reject the idea that dem
materialization with some sort of plots paved the way to
confiscate collateral because that makes no sense. So what Y
didn't say, and this book is saying is that basically,
when it's digital, they could take everything off of you.
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And what this real view says is that no, that's
not true at all, because it's still all backed up
by security. In the old days, it was come withsome
and expensive dealing with physical share certificates. Trading directs on
registers was also expensive and slow. The materialization and broker
custodian held shares are simpler, cheaper, and opens a wider
range of trading facility including margin stop lasses are smart ordering.
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It means that on registers you will list large banks
or brokers holding the book of shares for individual clients
as nominees for example HSBC nominees. These nominees are called
street names. That's the main way through which global shares
have bought, held and sold today. The book seems to
suggest that the materialized shares held by banks or brokers
as nominees could be at risk of debt claims against
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pulled assets, but segregated accounts which such brokers dealers may
not actually and segregated accounts which such brokers dealers may
not actually be fully segregated failures segregate accounts would be
a serious breach of rules, and financial firms are regularly audited.
Brokers are tightly regulated and seldom carry much debt. Clients
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have a real owner interest in their shares, which can
be proven by trained confirmations, statement and movements of fund
So what they're saying is they can't steal it off
of you because a that would be against the law,
and B you've got proof of ownership and ce s
simply not how it works. SIPC or other backstop mechanisms
are not well covered in the book. SIPC, for example,
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provided protection in the event of failure of a registered
US member broker up to half a million US dollars,
regardless of the client's country of residents. Many brokers also
carry further insurance. Much of the discussion that de materialized
shares are up for taking seem specious. Neither these brokers
nor the financial system has any desire or incentive to
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destroy the very customers they depend on. I also get
the impressures from reading that broker's clients of Layman Brothers
LBI lost money or had their assets subverted during the GFC.
This was not the case at all, revered Layman Brothers.
Where was it Nick what's his name? Fuckton? Basically, but
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this was not the case at all. When Layman went bankrupt,
regulators quickly established that the eighty three thousand brokerage clients
could access their accounts. Then, under the supervision of the
SEC and r A, Layman Brothers customers accounts were transferred
to other brokerage firms for continuation of service, in particular
New Bauger, Burmah and Barker's Caspel. Capital disruption to either
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access or trading systems seems to have been fairly minimalm
for clients, As noted in Liberty Street Economics. The rapid
transfer of customers accounts to rival broker dealers suggests that
opportunity costs to LBI customers were small. So not only
is he misrepresenting how this system works and how the
security works. The example that he uses wasn't accurate for
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real life in this book, and then the big one assets,
even of the wealthy, can be taken when debt exceeds
their value. The review says, yeah, but this has always
been the case. If the market falls and you hit
your argin limits, you'll start getting margin calls. Should you
not be able to meet those calls, your assets may
be sold at a loss. This is why we tend
to use minimal debt when buying equities. Why do discussion rather,
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the global finance complex represents it as a big perpetuity
within the prices of all assets being driven by interest rates.
The FED is blamed for creating the everything bubble when
interest rates were lowered to fight the GFC. These interest
rates have now been increased, threatening the bubble. Actually, devaluations
in asset prices have not been especially severe. In the
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case of many property companies, occupancy of rents have held
up reasonably well. On one hand, this book predicts deflation,
but then note that the FED has not yet lowered
interest rates despite bank failures. If the is right on deflation,
then interest rates would come down again. And then the
review ends by pointing out that the major flaw in
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this theory that Michael Yedion promotes is that the value
of assets that people own has increased a far greater
pace than any of the debt that may be supporting them,
which basically means that people have got more stuff than
the debt that's owed, which means that you can essentially
you've got more than the debt, so even if they
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did start taking stuff, you'd have things left, which completely
disproves the entire theory of the book. Yeah yeah, hey ho. Anyway,
so Ei then then goes on to say that if
you have a digital ID, you don't exist as a person,
and that you can be cut off if you do
anything that the government uses, essentially like you can't use
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any of their facilities. And he says that he's read
this in several documents, and at this point I say, yeah,
which one show us, But he doesn't because he hasn't,
because he's a liar. He also says that basically, like
your idea will become invalid if you don't have injections,
and then you won't be able to buy anything, and
you know, you're fucked. And there's a flaw in this
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basically which means that every single business in the entire
world will have to have some sort of infrastructure built
that supports this, which they're not going to do, are they.
He then starts to go on saying, and so if
you could spot this one, if you go outside of
your fifteen minute zone, you'll be cut off. So he's
doing the widely debunked fifteen minute city nonsense then, And
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I wonder why this was particularly apt to him given
his past. If you say hurty words on the internet,
they will also cut you off, which comes across as
childishly petuant paranoia. But hey, hey, they won't give you
any benefits if you don't have this ID. I thought
they were gonna let people fucking stave to death and
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they wanted to kill us. Why are they giving us
benefits anyway? And also, won't people start to notice that
they're starving people to death, killing everybody? Won't this start
people revolting it?
Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Like?
Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
No, apparently not.
Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Now here's the thing they wouldn't notice because billions of
us are dead.
Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Yeah, so there's no one left to notice. The Other
thing that gets me about this, right, because this cash
the society thing gets on my fucking tits right. It
really gets on my fucking nerves because you don't understand, Neil.
If you're on a digital idea and everything has to
be bought digitally, they can cut you off and stop
me from buying anything, and then you're fult It's like
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they can do that by stopping you getting access to cash.
There's nothing that they could do to you in a
cash to society that they couldn't do to you simply
by stopping you getting money. It's the same thing. Oh
but Neil, you don't understand the black market exists. If
I can't get cash, I could get my friend Chris
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to use his cash to buy me stuff, and then
I could give him something back in exchange for that cash.
He's giving me a very weird I didn't mean that anyway.
You could do that with digital. You could say, buy
me some fucking food on your digital things, and then
I'll build a shed for you or whatever. So everything,
so the black market can still exist with digital. You
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just lie about what it is that you're buying. So
none of these things, it doesn't make any sense. It's
just paranoia. He then says, remember the two things that
they'll do to that. They always say when they do things.
Remember that where he didn't say the second thing, Well,
he says that the second is the real reason that
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they do stuff, which is to kill you. And at
this point I got across because I was like, that's
not what you fucking said. You said they always do
two things, and that's just one thing, right, So what
he's saying is they always do two things. They always
tell you something isn't going to kill you, and then
they kill you with it. And at that point I
was like, can you give me any examples of times
(01:26:55):
in the past when they've said one thing and then killed.
Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
You with it.
Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
How many of the past two stage events where everyone
was killed with the thing that was telling you was
not to kill you? Has? Can he name? Like, when
did they kill everyone in the past? It doesn't, it's
it's it's bollocks, isn't it. He then goes on to
say that he doesn't care because he's ready to die.
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He's a fucking hero, Brennan. He's ready to die for
the cause, And at this point I thought, what a dreamboat. Anyway,
He then goes on to say that you shouldn't listen
to the mainstream media, but you should listen to him
because he's done the research. And then he says that
this is born out because you can check his track
record and see that he was absolutely right about the
(01:27:44):
COVID vaccine being toxic, so you could trust him. But
the major flaw in this is that it wasn't, so
you shouldn't anyway. He then decides to recommend someone else,
a fellow called Ben Rubin. Do you know who Ben
Rubin is?
Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Brent, I don't think I've ever heard of him.
Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
No, I'd not heard of him either. He works for
UK column apparently, and he's.
Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Particularly why I've never heard of him.
Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Yeah, he's particularly concerned with the digital industrial complex and LinkedIn,
which we must remember as an advertisement for potential potential employers.
Says I spent eighteen years at the cutting edge of
corporate consulting, advising clients on complex issues relating to growth,
transformation and the deployment of advanced technologies such as artificial intelligence,
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machine learning, distributed ledger technology, and connected devices. But in
twenty twenty I came to the profound realization the global
corporate system is fundamentally ripped against humanity and needs to
be replaced. I now document corporate and government corruption as
an investigative journalist and news broadcaster, UK column and right
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UK RISEUK dot com. I've recently launched a community of
active citizens called Pattern, which is available at Pattern dot
co dot uk, and we're delivering the ideas of action
required to capitalize a systemic transformation British society for the
benefit of every citizen. Uh And rather annoyingly, Pattern isn't
(01:29:23):
like an acronym. I couldn't find what it men like,
but you know, fucking hell, do the work make it
an acronym? What's wrong with you? Anyway, so we know
what UK columns like. And I wanted to know if
this guy was, like, you know, someone that should be
taken seriously because you didn't. And you know, he's the
most qualified person in the world to tell you all
(01:29:45):
of this. He says that this guy is pretty pretty
fucking sharp cookie, which is actually really bad for a cookie.
Cookies shouldn't be cut sharp, they should be soft and edible. Anyway,
I went on his substack Rise dot UK and I
wanted to see if this guy was somebody who we
(01:30:07):
should listen to. And the first story on there was
is Bob Villain, a Zionist plant and it was this
point that I thought, no, no, this person isn't the
sensible person who should be listened to. Bob Villain recently
caused a stir it Glastonbury by starting a chance of
death death to the IDF. But he thinks that maybe
(01:30:30):
this is too, you know, is a plant from Zionists
to you know, make people not like anti I don't
know what it is. It's bollocks anyway. Then, as an
article called the Death Call, which is about how abortion
is a death call. Yeah, and also basically what you're
(01:30:51):
talking about is and all the fucking smart people got
really up in arms about this. Recently there was a
decriminalization of a really old abortion law which basically said
that if a woman is passed the twenty four weeks
of a legal abortion and does something that to for
whatever is and to end to terminate her pregnancy, then
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she should not be considered a murderer because probably she's
done it because of reasons like not being able to
do it before, not being aware that she was pregnant,
that she was in a situation where if she didn't
have bought the baby, she might die, and because we
had really archaic laws that they could be prosecuted like recently.
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Heidi Stewart, who is from the BPAs, who has been
campaigning for this change in this law for years, said,
this is a landmark moment for women's rights in this
country and the most significant change to our abortion law
since the nineteen sixty seven Abortion Act was passed. There
will be no more women investigated after enjoying a miscarriage,
no more women dragged from their hospital bed to the
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back of a police van, no more women separated from
their children because of our archaic abortion law. So most
people saw this as a good thing, but obviously fucking
idiots on the Internet and conspiracy lot they saw this
as admission that you are now allowed to murder a
baby the day before it was due to be born,
which is obviously not true. There was another article on
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there in which this Ben Rubin guy. Have you ever
heard of the firms Deloitte and KPMG Brent No, They're
what they are is they're basically they do auditing, consulting,
the financial advisory, risk management, taxes and stuff like that.
They do an admin for businesses essentially, But that's not
(01:32:49):
exactly what Ben Rubin has pitted them, as he describes
the ass killers in an article called Claus Schwab's Willing Execution,
and in this article he claims that the firms Dilaway
and KPMG are actively involved in murder because of their
connections to government COVID schemes. And essentially the connections to
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the government's COVID schemes were that they did the auditing,
the financial advisory and the taxes and stuff like that,
because you know, they're fucking adming group. But no, according
to Ben, according to Ben, is this man that Mike
Yeden has recommended wholeheartedly they're killers, which was one of
the indications that I don't think you should take this
boat seriously. Eden then has a bit of a bit
(01:33:37):
of a scoop. He says, and pay attention, right, because
this is important that bird flu and chicken flu is
fake and that birds and chickens don't get flu.
Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
I was hoping you is not going to say that.
Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
He's got evidence for this. It's like, it's not just
like he's not pulling this out his art. He has
like serious science to baut this up.
Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
I have never heard of chicken sneeze.
Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
That's what he says. He says, have you ever heard
of chicken coughing or sneezing? And I thought, you know what,
I haven't, so I googled it and you can watch
videos of them doing it if you google google chicken
sneezing or chicken coffin.
Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
So like the sneezing panda.
Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Yeah, a bit like that. Yeah, yeah, but he doubles
down on it. It says that birds lungs are completely
different to humans lungs, so they can't get flu, And
at no point does he points out that, yeah, that's
why the different fucking diseases. That's quite it's so difficult
for one to pass over to the others zoonotically. But
the lowest shot of it is that basically, yeah, just
google it chicken coffin or chicken sneezing and you'll find
videos of it. He then goes on to say that
(01:34:47):
the PCR test is a fraud, okay, and again this
pisses me right off, because it's one of these things
where it's like, you could easily show that all these
people that said that you can basically find anything with
a peace test, right, good, go and test a fucking
house brick and determine that it's positive. For HIV. Go on,
(01:35:07):
you can do that. If the PCR doesn't work, how
does it detect disease accurately? How does it detect pregnancy accurately?
Even fucking carry Mulliss said that he found viruses with it.
He just didn't believe that HIV, the virus that he
found with his PCR caused aids D, and then goes
on to say that he doesn't think that monkey pox
is real. Do you want to know why? No, because
(01:35:32):
monkey is a hairy and so how do you get
poxas on hairy's skin? And then he goes on to say, well,
if he's brutally honest, he hasn't really looked into this
in any great detail. Okay, the man is a fucking prap.
He then brings out the big guns. He says that
(01:35:53):
viruses don't exist, or if they do exist, they don't
give you illnesses and they don't do what big Farmer
tells you. I thought it was curious that in the
thirty two years he worked in the industry, he never
spotted this, but when some twap puts this out on YouTube,
he spots this. He then says that there's no such
(01:36:14):
thing as contagion and there's never been any scientific evidence
of contagion, which is powerful. Shit like that's just complete nonsense.
You could go back to the earliest experiments with rabies
by Louis Pasteur and people like that, and this is
just nonsense. He believes that, right. You know, if someone
(01:36:39):
had a migraine and you stood next to them, Brent,
could you catch that migraine off of them?
Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
And if someone had angina or heart disease and you
stood next to them, could you catch angina a heart
disease from that person?
Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Well that fucking proves it, doesn't it, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
But what he says, he says, the illness such as
colds and flu, they're not due to you catching viruses, right, Okay,
they're due to and I don't want to blind you
with science here, Brent, but they're due to a loss
of equilibrium inside you.
Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
He says.
Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I know you think you've caught it off your work colleagues, right,
but you haven't. And at this point I thought, well,
isn't that a bit of a coincidence that literally everybody
in the office was experiencing the same time a tape
of equilibrium disruption that caused the same symptoms at the
same time. Wouldn't that be less Yeah, wouldn't that be
(01:37:42):
less like you than than than the idea that basically
you've caught it off your coworker. Now, the other thing
is that basically, like you know, again, you could test this,
go and do tests with rabies or bowler or something
like that. You'd be a hero because you'd save so
many lives because then people would trust vaccines. You'd prove
(01:38:02):
it and people would die. But if you don't do that,
if you don't go and infect yourself with rabies or
a bola to prove this point, you're either coward or
a charlatan or a liar. Also, I'd like to point
out at this point, but what you're saying there sounds
very much like German new medicine. Now, German new medicine
was created by Reicher Gerd Hamer. And now this is
(01:38:25):
somebody that is well thought of within the conspiracy world.
And I have fucking no idea why Because if you
listen to his CV, he had a license to practice
medicine from nineteen sixty three until nineteen eighty six, when
it was revoked from malpractice. Right his system. So he's
already had his license taken off from malpractice, and his
system came to public attention in nineteen ninety five when
(01:38:47):
the parents have a chill of a child suffering from
cancer refused medical treatment like chemotherapy in favor of Hamer's methods.
Hamer was charged with malpractice and was imprisoned in several
European countries. Now the girl was taken out of his
care after getting really really ill, and she was given
(01:39:08):
chemotherapy and she survived, but she very nearly fucking died
because of his quack nonsense. He claimed that his method
was Germanic. Now this is where it starts to get fucked.
Why did he claim it's Germanic. Well, this was an
alternative to mainstream clinical medicine, mainstream Jewish clinical medicine, which
(01:39:33):
Hamer claimed was part of an ongoing Jewish world conspiracy
to kill everyone that wasn't a Jew. So anyway, despite
being sort of struck off by malpractice, Hamer continued to
practice illegally, a being investigated several times over causing the
death of his patients. In nineteen ninety seven, he owned
(01:39:55):
clinics in Germany, Belgium, Italy, Austrian and the Netherlands, and
he was arrested in jaw for twelve months in Germany
in nineteen ninety seven. He also served a prison term
in September twenty, two thousand and four for two years
in France on councer of fraud and unlicensed practice of medicine. Now,
this is a person that lots of people within I've
heard David Ike talk about these ideas. Richard D. Hall
(01:40:19):
and Andrew Johnson promote this heavily, and it sounds like
Yiden's promoting this as well. What Harmer believed was that
there's no such sing as disease, and that shock and
internal conflict causes the brain to create illnesses in people,
and that this was all part of the modern medicine.
Modern clinical medicine was all part of a Jewish conspiracy,
(01:40:43):
and that the only way that you could get cancer
was if a Jew injected it into you. Yeah. He
also asserted that chemotherapy and morphine are used to mass
murder Western civilization and falsely alleged that chemotherapy is never
used on a Jewish patient and is illegal in Israel,
(01:41:04):
which is not true. He also promoted the idea that
most oncologists are actually secretly Jewish, and that hypodermic year
needles that are used during chemotherapy actually are the things
that give you the cancer that kills you. He also
proposed that swinefleu was used to mark people with these
(01:41:25):
chips which would eventually kill everybody who took that vaccine
with cancer, which it didn't happen, and that the denial
of the recognition of his theory that this is what
caused illness and the revocation of his practitioners' license, well
you know who was behind that, Brent, It was the Jews.
In two thousand and eight, Hahna presented a document were
(01:41:48):
a supposed rabbi called Ezra Ivan Goats confirmed the existence
of a conspiracy among Jewish oncologists to use the torture
of chemotherapy and all non Jewish patients to kill all
non use whileas Jewish patients receive correct treatment. Gertz, who
just happens to be a German Holocaust denier who was
(01:42:08):
active in the German reich revioleticism scene, was convicted of
fraud in the German courts for fraud, defamation and pretending
to be a rabbi. So it's safe to say that
that Harmer's full of shit. These all the people that
he gets his stuff are full of shit, and therefore
(01:42:28):
Yeden is full of shit. He then goes on to
say that elderly people don't need to worry about getting
the flu vaccine because elderly people can't catch flu, which, well,
that fox of the anti covid narrative totally because I
thought all these because before the vaccines happened, deaths and
cases were explained as being flu rebadged. He says it, literally,
(01:42:49):
all and every vaccine ever, ever is designed to hurt
people and not protect you from any disease. And that's
not just him saying this. He cites an expert, Sasha
lap Latipover. Do you know Sasha Latipova. She's an expert brand,
She's a fucking expert. She wrote to Prominence by claiming
(01:43:11):
that COVID vaccines didn't have trials because they were rushed
through on emergency use source rization simply isn't true. They
went through three phases of animal and three phases of
human trials. And basically she got this entire thing from
this line in the emergency use guidance, which says from
adequate and well controlled clinical trials if available. That's what
(01:43:35):
it says. It says that basically your data will come
from adequate and well controlled clinical trials, if available. And
she said that that's proof that they didn't have trials,
except that's bollocks, because they did have trials. You can
I can show you the fucking trials. They exist. So
(01:43:56):
and also just because basically you're saying that if they're available,
we were us doesn't mean that basically, if they're not available,
we won't use them like in this case. Well that's
what she's been playing. She's saying that's a get out
clause that means he don't have to be tested. It's
not true. Also, she says that she's an ex CEO
of Big Farmer and that's why she's an expert of this,
(01:44:16):
But that's not true. I look at a c CV
on LinkedIn. She graduated in nineteen ninety nine with an
MBA so business from the top School of Business at Dartmouth.
So she's not a scientist, she's she's got business qualifications.
From March twenty six to October twenty sixteen, she was
(01:44:37):
the co founder and executive VP of I Cardiac Technologies, Inc.
Which is a safety analysis tech for heart drug trials.
And now she left in twenty sixteen. You know what
happened in twenty seventeen. They're only fucking bought out for
an enormous amount of money. So unfortunate for her, she
missed out on a large pay off, but she went
(01:45:00):
work for She's the co founder and executive VP and
director of a company called Claro Vision. Clariovision make contact
lenses to suggest that this woman is like a you know,
an expert of vaccines and farmer pharmaceuticals is stretching the truth,
(01:45:20):
saying it's stretching the truth. He's stretching the tooth. It's
just out a fucking lie. He also goes on to
say that basically when he was younger, absolutely no one
was allergic to anything. And it suggests that basically peanut
allergies might be down to you being injected with tiny
amounts of peanut and that way injections make you allergic
(01:45:40):
to milk, and that beef protein from plasma makes you
allergic to me. And he says, unfortunately all of that
is true. All of those ingredients have been found in
at least one vaccine in the USA, and so I
look this up right, Okay, look I look this thing,
this phrase that he kept repeating on. Do you know
the only sauce for this idea that you basically allergies
(01:46:04):
never existed until people started getting these ingredients in the vaccines.
Do you know the only source for it?
Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
The no German medicine, not quite.
Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Natural news by Mike Adams. That's the only source for
this powerful nonsense. So anyway, this is basically a lie, or,
if we're being charitable, a gross misunderstanding. The Children's Hospital
of Philadelphia, on their website says frequently asked questions, my
daughter has a corn allergy. Do I need to worry
(01:46:35):
about her getting vaccines? I heard the rise in peanutalergies
is because peanut oils are used in vaccines. Is this true?
Both of these questions related to the notions that oils
and vaccines can cause allergic reactions in those that have
food sensitivities. Indeed, if someone has the sensitivity to a
vaccine component, they may be advised not to get it. However,
vaccines do not contain either corn or peanut oils. Oils
(01:46:57):
would be typically be introduced in oil and water emotions
for you as adjuvants. One such preparation, Squalien, is approved
for the use in it as an adjuvant in the US.
Is included in Fluid, which is a flu vaccine for
adults sixty five and older, so it's not for children.
Scadion is taken from fish oil, specifically sharp liver oil.
Squaling is also made in our livers and found in
(01:47:18):
our bloodstreams as part of our cholesterol synthesis. So this
is none of that's true, absolutely untrue. He then goes
on to quote say that viruses don't exist, and he
quotes Stephan Lanka. Now, for people that don't know, Stefan
Lancer was a twat. The claims that he proved that
(01:47:39):
measles doesn't exist. Now, how Stephan Lanka said that he
did this is that he said, I bet, I think
it was ten thousand dollars that nobody could provide me
with a single paper that proves that measles exists. And
this bloke called Dr David Barden's when what twat and
(01:48:00):
provided six A Lanca refused to pay, so he took
him to court. Bardins did and he won. A Lanka
was forced to pay him that the money. Later, lank
appealed and he actually won the case. And he goes
around saying that this basically proves that measles don't exist,
that this man didn't prove it. But that is not
(01:48:22):
what was said. The higher court's ruling, the Jews noted
that in the lower court that he was proven. The
publications submitted by the plaintiff Bardins, in their entire entirety
provided evidence of the existence and causative properties of the
music virus, and the determination of the diameter in the
form were questioned by the defendant was successful and the
result is not objectionable. But the higher courts also noted
(01:48:44):
that one of Lanka's criteria, that the proof contained in
a single scientific paper rather than multiple papers, had not
been met by Bardons. Now did you catch that? Did
you find why lankas essentially got his money back Because
he laid out the the stipulations for the bet and
(01:49:05):
he said, provide me with one paper. The man provided
six papers. All of those papers prove the existence of measles,
all of them, okay. But because that didn't meet the
specific criteria of what Lanka said, the court said, yeah, technically,
like he can refuse to pay.
Speaker 4 (01:49:25):
You what are job's worth?
Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
What a fucking pathetic bastard that's so embarrassed, Like it's ridiculous,
it really is. Then Eden says that he doesn't lie,
and that but you must trust him because he's an expert.
And then he says that you might notice that he
only talks about things that he actually knows about, and
(01:49:51):
that he has restricted his comments only to things about
respiratory illnesses. And at that point I nearly punched the
fucking la because I know you haven't, your fucking liar,
You've mentioned vaccines, ingredients of vaccines, how they work, allergies,
how allergies are formed, viruses, whether they exist, contagion in general,
animal diseases, digital currency, town planning, fifteen minute cities, slave state,
(01:50:16):
digital prisons, the concept of assets, the illuminati, and the
fact that he is willing to die fighting them. He
then goes on to say that a cold isn't caused
by a virus, It's caused by a bit of the
lung drying out, and it's like, that's not true, but
all right, I'll buy what causes it to do that,
And he never explains, but he says that to support this.
(01:50:39):
He says that, you know, in cystic fibrosis, people with
cystic fibrosis get a lot of colds, and that proves it,
doesn't it, because it's to do with regulation of liquid
in the airways. Now, can you see where he's wrong
with that? Cistic fibrosis is where you get a load
of mucus in the lungs. It's not where you get
dry lungs, and the colds are caused by the mucus
(01:51:00):
trapping bacteria in it. He's talking about dry lums. So
if you're doing about dry lums, you couldn't use a
worse example than cystic fibrosis. Like. He then goes on
to say that he believes that all illness is caused
by a lack of equilibrium and that contagion is a myth,
and he says that his version is an I quote,
a better explanation than the official story. Yeah Yenen then
(01:51:24):
says that he knows that there was absolutely no pandemic,
and again he's not just pulling this out of his
stupid ass, He's got reasoning behind this. He says that
Dennis Rancourt, who is an idiot that claims that basically
climate changes are real, and that that COVID simply didn't exist,
said that the pandemic was declared before there was signs
(01:51:46):
of illness. He said that basically there weren't people dying
on mass when they actually declared the pandemic, and then
that proves that the pandemic was a lie. And there's
a simple problem with his reasoning that that's not true.
There were loads of deaths in China and in Italy
before it was caused a pandemic. By the end of
(01:52:08):
March twenty twenty, COVID nineteen data from the World Health
Organization other sources indicate the following there were approximately six
hundred thousand and nine six hundred ninety two hundred and
twenty four confirmed cases reported worldwide. The figure comes from
the who's data compilation, which transitioned to region's specific dashboards
and directed direct reporting from member states around March twenty second,
(01:52:30):
twenty twenty. At that time, in March twenty twenty twenty,
around thirty one hundred and six deaths were attributed to
COVID nineteen globally, showing the rapid increase in the last
days of the month. These numbers are likely underestimates due
to the limited testing and varying reporting practices. Also due
to date delays in data collection, differences in case definitions
(01:52:51):
and testing strategies across countries also affected the accuracy of
these early figures for contexts. In the United States, specifically,
by the end of March twenty twenty, approximately one hundred
and eighty five thousand and four and sixty nine confirmed
cases and three eight hundred and thirty five deaths. In
the UK at the time, there were twenty two thousand
confirmed cases and one thy four hundred confirmed deaths. So
(01:53:14):
rancours just to twat and again like that has been
just completely debunked. Yenen then goes on to say that
the PCR test gave false positives and that when anyone
died they called it COVID, which we've discussed to sim
reason trade and then he hints that the elderly were
murdered Dune and then he goes into sort of well
known Twatty conspiracy theory realms by saying that the Club
(01:53:38):
of Rome in the Trilateral Commission created the concept of pandemics,
and it's like the Black Death would like would have
something to say about that, Like, I think the concept
of a pandemic was probably well known before the Trilateral
Commission was a thing. But they didn't just create pandemics, Brent.
(01:53:59):
You know what else the Club of Rome and the
Triatle Commission invented simply to scare people. Climate change obviously,
like but also the entire concept of disease, of course,
because well as we know, there's no documented evidence of
anyone contracting any disease prior to what the fifties or
(01:54:21):
sixties when the Club of Rome was formed. It simply
didn't happen. Now also, you didn't, and you've got to
remember the only talks about respiratory things. There's certainly not
things that he has no fucking clue about. But he's
a bit of he's a bit knowledgeable about climate change
as well, and he could accurately tell you that it
doesn't exist. It doesn't exist, Brent. And he knows that, right, Okay,
(01:54:44):
because I don't know whether you notice this, know this right,
But temperatures have changed in the past. We know that,
we know that U City. So yeah, well yeah, but
it's not about the change is it's about the rate
of change. That's what people are concerned about. But he
says they shouldn't worry about that because carbon dioxide doesn't
(01:55:06):
cause any problems. Ever, it's not a greenhouse gas. Do
I know how? He he how he knows this. He
says that changes in temperature always precede a CO two rise,
not the other way. Are up, And he says in
the common sense, if you think about it, he says
that basically all that CO two it just goes into space.
(01:55:30):
And again he's not just pulling this out of his ass.
He has scientific knowledge that can prove this. And it's
simple when you think about it. What happens to a
can of coke when it gets warm, or a glass
of coke when it gets warm? What happened what happens
to fizzy drinks when they get warm? Rent they go yeah,
(01:55:56):
which means that the CO two has left them, Which
means means that the temperature was caused by the CO
two leaving, not by this, not by the CO two
being added. It's like no, no, no, U City sod.
The temperature change was caused by the temperature, right, and
the CO two was released by the can be open.
(01:56:18):
That is a stupid, stupid explanation. Anyway, Is there any
merit to these studies that show that historical cotwo levels
lagged behind temperature and don't lead them. No. Climate scientist
Peter Hildebrand, director of the Earth Science Division at NASA's
Godard Space Flight space Flight Center, says, is marrit to
those studies. In the pre industrial age and the CO
(01:56:39):
two respond to temperature was that the temperature would go
up and CO two would go down. Oh perhaps I'm wrong.
Oh no, wait, well, if the temperature went down, then
the CO two would go down. And the reason for
that when the temperature went up, the whole biosea rest
up and emitted CO two, and we had more CO
two in the atmosphere, So we understand that process. However,
in the post industrial age, the opposite is true. Increasing
(01:57:03):
CO two in the atmosphere is leading to increased temperature.
So two different things happened. One pre industrial where temperature
was driving the CO two, and post industrial where CO
two was driving temperature, which means a completely different physical
biological process is going on and we don't understand what
(01:57:24):
the consequence of that change is. Skeptical science says CO
two did not initiate warming from the past eight ice ages,
but it did amplify the warming. In fact, about ninety
percent of the global warming followed the CO two increase,
but increasing concentration of CO two in the atmosphere increases
global temperature. Increasing globical temperature also increases the concentration of
(01:57:48):
CO two in the atmosphere. Yes, you can have both
Antarctic ice core records of the past. Climate change helps
us understands the Earth climate change system and show that
human cause climate change is fundamentally different from natural glacial
interglacial climate changes. So, you know, for someone who says
that he knows how to read science, it doesn't sound
(01:58:11):
like he's read fucking anything. Literally, every single thing that
he said thus far, every single expert that he's brought forward,
is provably wrong, with a minimal effort in trying to
debunk it. You know, it says the climate change is
a myth, and you know why it's a myth. It's
to stop us from using cars, apparently, And he says
(01:58:36):
and and again. See if you can notice the floor
in this reasoning. Exhaustimes from cars are in fact cleaner
than the air that we breathe due to catalytic converters,
especially in diesel cars. That's not true, is it? Like
it's just not true.
Speaker 4 (01:58:54):
Now, yes, I noticed a plot everywhere there.
Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
Yeah, yeah, like it's just not true. And also, you
know diesel exhaust some of them, some of diesel exhausted
is toxic. He could irritate the eyes, nose, and long
as it can cause respiratory issues, headaches, dizzier nausea, long
term effects, or increase the risk of lung cancer. The
vans are just talking about shite. But he also says
(01:59:20):
that ev cars are also a ploy to get people
out of patrol cars, and he thinks that the car
companies are probably in cahoots with the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
And ass backwards has he's got to hold completely backwards.
Speaker 3 (01:59:35):
But he says that he knows that this is true
because right he's been told by a lawyer friend that
you won't be soon, won't be allowed out of your
fifteen minute zones. And do you want to know how
his lawyer friend found this out? Completely by accident. He
went to a to buy a new car or to
have his car upgraded, and they put loads of stuff
(01:59:59):
into his system, him into his computer system and stuff
like that, and when he went back to the shop
to pick it up, he noticed that the that the
the showroom had added this thing which restricted his driving
from fifteen minutes outside of his home, which I must
remind you isn't a thing anyway. When he was asked
(02:00:24):
why his car had been restricted to this, the lawyer
was told by the people in the thing that, ah,
this is an upgrade that all cars are going to
have in the future. Now, I don't want to call
like you'd in a liar, but I don't believe that story,
do you?
Speaker 4 (02:00:42):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
No, No, it's it's it's obvious.
Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
Let me, shall I sell you a car a car,
but you're not allowed to drive.
Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
I'll give a shit if you can drive it or not.
You've already paid for it. But yeah, it's ridiculous. He
also said that it says that in modern cars that
there are several cameras that are just trained to watch you.
(02:01:14):
And he says that the law says that if you
try and wear a mask to stop these people, these
cameras watching you, then you'll go to prison. And it's like, well,
that's ironic because you're against masks. But also it's like,
what exactly is this doing? This, this camera that's filming you,
(02:01:35):
And I think I forget whether he was saying that
or implying that it's kind of to do with stuff
like they'll, you know, this sort of like where AI
can monish you to see if you like fit for driving.
There might be something that like a kernel of truth
in this where it's like there's a system that basically
says if you start to nod or whatever, that it
basically sets off alarms, has pull over you fallen asleep.
(02:01:56):
That might be a real thing. This sounds like shite.
This sounds like US as shite basically. But anyway, he
says that basically there's been a global cou guitar which
started in twenty twenty that relies on digital ID. Why
do they want to do it? O case, Remember he's
been talking about for an hour, about forty five fucking
minutes at this point, so you've got to come up
(02:02:16):
with the big guns of the explanation. And he said
that there's definitely definitely a cou guitar startingly twenty twenty
relies on digital ID. And so are you ready for
this explanation, Brent? Why do they want to hit me?
Why do they want to do it? I don't know exactly,
but I just think that they are deeply evil people.
They're feel inclined to control the lives of people like
(02:02:38):
you and me, who they regard as profane, useless eaters. Well,
thank Christ, he's not being vague.
Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
I don't know why they're doing it.
Speaker 6 (02:02:47):
It's just because they're Jewish essentially, and they're all like that,
aren't they Like you don't notice, say and at this
point he looks really genuinely cross.
Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
At this point he says, you didn't know the injections
were dangerous, but you do now, So anyone who rolls
up their sleeve for an injection, I have absolutely no
sympathy for you. You think right, I will fuck off then. Anyway,
the end's on a hide. I'm saying to you, we
(02:03:22):
will win if enough of us bottom up simply refuse
to go along with their hair brained plan. And I
don't think he means by grabbing your ankles. I think
he means from the bottom up of society. But anyway,
I digress. So if they want to frighten you with
some mad pandemic that doesn't happen, don't be afraid. If
they want to tell you to stay at home when
it doesn't suit you, go outside. If they insist that
(02:03:45):
you wear masks. Don't wear masks. There's no possible benefit
for you wearing masks. I thought you just said that
you should wear masks and cars, so there is one
possible benefit anyway, I digress. Certainly, if they want you
to roll up your sleeve, do not accept any injection. Certainly,
not of these m RNA technologies. They certainly like their
(02:04:07):
digital control technologies, So do not sign up for digital
ID and many other things. Really, try and stay healthy,
go and talk to real people, give them a hug,
eat good food, exercise, be out in the daylight, and
will be all right as long as if enough of
us do not comply. What was that fucking sunscreen? So
(02:04:31):
that sounds like that the one thing I know is
to wear sunscreen. Bas leermin that that's turned into bas
Leerman at the end. It started off as a very
sort of juvenile sort of treatise on anarchy, but ended
up sounding like a fucking bas Lehman's son. And I'm
afraid I came away from that entire thing by thinking,
(02:04:54):
what a sad juvenile, what an absolutely tragic It's a
bullshit from from top to tail. And this man is
not a stupid man. So something is going on here, right, Okay,
either he's lying or he's willfully lying to himself, and
I honestly don't know which is more dangerous and more sad.
(02:05:17):
What's your thoughts, Brent?
Speaker 5 (02:05:19):
Yeah, I think it's the second one. And I'm just wondering, like, well,
I was wondering why has this man even got an
audience because he's not exactly saying anything new, He's just
kind of rehashing the same ship that people say. And
the reason, obviously he has an audience is because of
this whistleblower status.
Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:05:42):
That's it. He has an appeal to authority. Yeah, which
is a logical fallacy. Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (02:05:49):
Yeah, It's strange, isn't it, Because to say and he
just highlights again the willingness that people are with him,
like say Alfred Baller based He'll say something and people
say you can't trust him he works for Piso. It's like,
well you trust yedn't explicitly because specifically because he worked
for phiso Oh, he's got the inside knows he's a whistleblower.
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So it's so selective when you're see like people like good,
like Raikahama being arrested time and time again for like
causing the death of patience or are being involved being
suspected in the death of patients, and people go, they
do the mental gymnastics and go, oh, he's getting flat,
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he's over the target. Oh, the main stream of discrediting
Eden because he's obviously telling the truth. It's like, wow,
the fuck do you go from there? Where do you
go from there? You can't because it's not it's an
ideological mantra. It's more akin to a religion at that
point that than tooth seeking or fat finding or anything
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like that. And I know people would like to present
themselves as like just asking questions and like, you know,
willing to believed to to to take on board information
that isn't to the mainstream. But that's not what you're doing.
It's just not what you do, certainly not what Michael
Eaton's doing here, Like it's it's just crazy, like but
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hey ho, but that that's Michael Yaton's final warning.
Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
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