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September 18, 2025 87 mins
Initiates! We're jumping ahead in the T.W.A.T.S timeline to cover the recent fall out of some odious characters. Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens had a fall out, Tucker Carlson and Milo Yiannopoulos came out to join Candace in attacking Fuentes.. and everyone forgot about their ties with Ali Alexander which shows how none of them have any integrity, let alone an honest bone in their body.

We decided to take this hilarious opportunity to cover the slagging match and give you a profile of these wretched characters.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So they are calling conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to some darcolic conspiracy with Brentlee and Neil Sanders.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought
someone really should keep a record of this decline so
that when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of
civilization they might be able to see where it all
went wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is the world according to some or.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
As all the hepcats are calling it.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Twat So Ken of Owens appears on the talk show
of Tucker Carlson and they immediately start talking about Nick Fuentes.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Now, what happened was.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Carlson asked Sewings about this recent interview that did with Fuentes,
which she said was an highly fraudulent experience. And what
her grite with this is that she says, oh, the
filming went great, he was all brilliant. But then when
she published the video, apparently Flenti started screaming and calling

(01:15):
her a bitch and saying she set it.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Off and blah blah blah, and so she's.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Actually taken the interview down. Carlson had an idea, he
had a theory about this. He said that Flent's is
clearly part of a campaign to discredit non crazy right
wing voices, said man who believes in physical demons took
a Carlson, and he went on to say that the

(01:42):
reason he knows this and this is a bit of
an own goal, right, See if you could just follow
this and track it and see at what point this
all falls to bits. So Tucker Carlson said that he
knows that Fwent's is just out there to discredit people
because in the past he's criticized Toucker by suggesting that

(02:05):
his dad was a CIA operative. And this is what
took her said, So Nick is being judged according to
my experience with him, But like, what is this? Where
does his funding come from? I had I probably shouldn't
even say this, but I had. The only reason I
know who he is is because someone sent me a
video a few years ago of him attacking me and

(02:29):
attacking my dad, and I was like, hmmm, So I'm
looking at this and I'm like, well, first of all,
this kid's really talented, like legit, and I can assess
that that that's just that's just having done the job
for so long. So wow, lots of talent, native talent.
But he's attacking my dad as a CIA agent saying, oh,

(02:52):
his dad's CIA or whatever, and I'm like, well, that's
not true. And then when my father died, I learned
and that actually, yeah, you know, he was involved in
that world.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
And so do you see what?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, so Tucker saying he's outrageously claiming that my father
is CIA. I mean, my father was CIA, obviously, but
I didn't know that at the time that I said that.
And anyway, the interview goes on. Tucker says, he's clearly
part of a campaign to this credit create non crazy

(03:30):
right voices.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
That's obvious. I've been around a long time.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I know when I see it, says the man that
interviewed someone that claimed to smoke crack and.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Have sex with Obama.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Anyway, Kenny Sewings goes on to say, I didn't understand it.
We were very kind to him. We felt like maybe
he was a bit lonely and we should invite him
back for dinner. That's how good of an experience I had.
So either it's been driven from little boy insecurity and
he was just so worried that he went on the
attack because he doesn't know how to have normal relations
being banned everywhere, And Tucker says yeah, I think this

(04:04):
kind of an angry gay kid thing going on there,
and Candice goes or, it's what you're saying, where he's
lying to everybody and pretending things are one way when
they are not. I just love the bitchy shade that
they authority each other. Someone would say that it undermines
them and their message, and I would say, no, no, no,

(04:26):
he can't undermine their message anymore than than it is already.
But this does add an extra layer of cilarity to it.
So anyway, basically what happened was he went and did
this interview with Candace, and he publicized it and said
that he was going to come out, and then she
put it out behind a paywall, and so this is

(04:51):
what caused the argument, or at least began the argument.
And she shares a text message that went said that says,
you just coming across as to psycho at this point,
I think you're either extremely stupid or just a straight
up bitch. Either way, I want nothing to do with
you as a person for now.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
And she then goes on to say that I can
actually say my experience with Nick Fwents is that he's
a terrible person and a terrible human being, because why
would you do that.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
There's no reason to do that. You could have come
back onto the show. And it's like, she's so close. Yes,
he's a terrible person, but not because of the grape.
It's the Nazi stuff, isn't it. That's the bad stuff,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, Tucker then compares him to David Duke, which Nick
would probably like, but he says that he's.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Like David Duke is in what he does is he
stands next to people. David Duke had this habit of
basically turning off and getting photos with people, and then
people would say, oh my god, you're associated with the
klub Kooks, Klan or whatever or that was their story
and that's what they're sticking to. But essentially, what took
a Carson saying is old Nick reputationally damages the right

(06:14):
wing movement, which.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Kind of reminded me of like Elon's excuse what he's
in a picture with Jolene Maxwell.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Hmm, she just photo bombed him and certainly wasn't there
to ask about those karate lessons or whatever, like so, yeah,
this is it.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Like poor old Elon, Like yeah, But so Nick reacts
to all this, and he actually is quite clever about
it because he basically just avoids a lot of the
stuff and sticks.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
To you'll see, but he basically changed. He challenges took
her to a debate, saying, if you have the balls
to gossip about me and make snarky personal attacks, it's
only right that I should be able to reply. And
then he accuses Tucker of being a CIA agent, and
he has a bit of evidence for this. He says

(07:09):
that Tucker claims that he was shocked to discover that
his dad was CIA upon his death in March twenty
twenty five, but here he is in June twenty twenty
four admitting that his father was CIA. So why did
he lie? And then it's essentially an interview that he
did in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
That he says, I've.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Taken a lot of crap, including from Putin, like, oh,
you're from a CIA family. Well, yeah, obviously my father
worked in conjunction with the CIA. I mean, that's what
I mean. I even tried to join the CIA. So
I'm not being false about it, but you know, attacking
my dad as a CIA agent, and then well I'm like,
that's not true.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
And then my father dies and.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I learned actually, yeah, you know, he was involved in that,
and I was completely shocked.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
So no one has to believe me. But that's just
a fact, right, And.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
What's very interesting is that he uses almost exactly the
same words that he uses to justify it with Candice
in twenty twenty five. And so anyway, he apparently knew
in twenty twenty four, and so tooker Carlson's advice, sorry,
took a Carlson's story on when he discovered his father

(08:24):
was a CIA agent has changed, which some people might
seems suspicious. Now, there is one man who claims that
he has the inside track on Tucker because they're so
close friends and he shouldn't have revealed this, but he
did reveal this because he has a punchin for doing

(08:47):
that sort of thing. Do you know who that man
might be absolutely Alex Jones. Now, according to Alex Jones,
and he's mentioned this on Info Wars, is said that
Tucker confided in him, which is a phrase that means
told him a secret on the understanding that he wouldn't
tell anybody else.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Well, Alex says that that Tucker confided in him.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
That he has been a secret CIA agent for years
and even has been involved in actual gun battles and
fighting in the jungle, which jungle is not entirely clear,
but but yeah, Alex Jones has said that, so you know,

(09:33):
we know his track record of accuracy, but it just
adds another sort of layer of white what the bloody
hell anyway, as we know Tucker said in that interview,
that was where he said that basically he was turned
away from the CIA because he done cocaine in the
months prior to applying, so he didn't get into it anyway.

(09:56):
Nicholas fun Times then decides that he's apt certainly not
bothered about this took a Carson thing in this slight,
He's completely not bothered at all them. To show that
he's completely not bothered, he does a three hour long
reaction video.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
And at one point he.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Says, I'm accused of being like because somehow, basically the
idea has now got back that maybe Nick is a FED.
Maybe he's either a federal agent or a CIA operative
or somewhere like, you know, an Operation Mockingbird type thing
to discredit the right wing. Maybe maybe that's the angle,

(10:34):
And he says, and I'm being accused of being the
CIA by Peter Thiel's best Boys by Tooker Carlson with
his daddy took a Carson. And you know what, here's
the other thing Tooker took He said, I'm a weird
gay kid in the basement and I'm from Chicago. You're right, well, okay, well,
I mean you're not right about all of that. But

(10:54):
I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth.
Tucker Carlson says, I have so many trust funds I
never I have to work. Tucker went to a forty
five thousand dollars per year private high school, then a
forty five thousand year per year selective Ivy League school
in New England. Tucker Carson's daddy was a Reagan appointee.
And then after years of bragging about being an elite,
bragging about being so out of touch and so rich,

(11:17):
now he's going to be the spokesperson for all the
white people. Now he's going to roll up his sleeves.
And I'd just like to hunt and fish in my
log cabin, and now they want to keep me out
and do this personality attack. And so I'm a bit
of losing my basement in Chicago, and they slipped up
there because they forgot for one second that they're pretending
to be a spokesperson for exactly that kind of person.

(11:40):
Tucker's mass slipped and he forgot for a minute that
for eight years he's been pretending to care about the
plight of weird kids in their parent basements who are
broke and didn't go to an Ivy League school, living
in cities that don't matter, like Chicago, not like Washington
or LA or New York. That's why he had such
disdain and contempt for me in that moment, because the
personality attacks He's lonely, he's weird, he lives in a basement.

(12:03):
I'm sorry, did you guys forget that that is your
target audience that you're trying to pander to. And as
odious as he is, he has got a point there.
He then goes on to say, Candice Owens got married
to British royalty worth two hundred million dollars after meeting
him for two weeks on zoom, what the fuck is

(12:25):
even that about? And this is a reference to George Farmer,
and we'll come on to it in a little bit,
but essentially Candice Owens had met him like twice in
the I think two or three weeks before he proposed

(12:45):
to her, and he proposed to her over zoom. And
there are people, certain people, as we will come on
to later in this wonderful journey, that have shall we say,
doubts about the legitimacy of their marriage, but we'll come
on to that in a bit. Nick goes on to
say took us at Turning Point, USA, extolling the predatory

(13:07):
nature of usury and how it's preventing young white men
from getting homes, and then the week after he says
that you're in your mum's basement.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
So which is it?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Unlike Candice Owns and Tucker, I never got a contract
with Ben Shapiro and Rupert Murdoch. I was on Maker Support,
I was on Patreon, I was on d Live. I
had to fight for everything I have. I didn't get
a million dollar contract from Turning Point. I didn't get
twenty million dollars for Fox News. My daddy didn't get
me a job at Arkansas. Now, you did get seven

(13:36):
hundred thousand dollars for a weird French guy, though, so
you know, come on. He then does a second show saying,
what else are you lying about, Tucker. If you lied
that you didn't know your dad was CIA, are you
lying that you were CIA or the extent of your
cooperation with the CIA?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
That was a natural question.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
But we did more digging over the course of last
week and we found about half a dozen other clips
that took he knew and said publicly that his father
was involved in the CIA.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
So I'll play this compilation for you right now, and
we're going to react to it. This is the first clip.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
It's about two minutes, and I'll play this right now.
All of this has come to light over the course
of the past week, and this is a big reason
why I did this show.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So here it is.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
And then he shows this thing and it's not actually
there's bits in it, but it's not as cotton dry
as he says. But he says, so that's two and
a half minutes. I've took a carson over the course
of twenty years, talking about and getting caught at least
in two, maybe three explicit instances saying my dad was
in the CIA. We lived down the street from the

(14:38):
CIA officer that overthrew Mosa dec in Iran. I went
to Vietnam with John McCain. I traveled to Pakistan with
my father. I traveled to Nico Argua with my friends
at the behaust of my father. All these different clips
paint a very interesting picture. Twenty five years going back
to nineteen ninety nine, took her is saying I was
traveling internationally with my dad, who was in this world

(15:00):
of Voice at America. If you pay attention, he says
in the Sean Ryan interview that he said, my dad
actually ran the Voice of America.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
And what is that? That's the CIA.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
So then something strange happens, like Nick tweets out Tucker
and Candace said, I'm hurting the rights credibility with my
crazy views, and then they promptly continued their conversation about
crypto transgenders into dimensional aliens and the frankest conspiracy, which
is exactly what they did, and we'll.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Come on to that shortly. He then basically Nick tweets out.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
That Candice Owens, Elon Musk, Milo Unopolis and Tucker Carlson
and Andrew Tait are all ganging up on him, and
he has an idea about why this is and who
might be behind this. What he calls a coordinated effort.
Can you guess he thinks might be the behind this Israel.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Close Trump? No, no, it a more sort of broad
for Israel.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Oh Jews, Yes, that's it. Yeah, he says, at the
bink of my popularity, all of a sudden, there is
a coordinated smear campaign by the biggest conservatives who wouldn't
give me the time of day a few months ago.
This is what happens when you start naming names and
talking about the Jews, not neo cons the Jews.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
So he's very, very clear about his views.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
And so this is why it's so reprehensible that people
like Alex Jones would have him on, because if you
have Nick nick Frantis on your show, you are supporting
statements like that.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
There's no way you can't be that is what he's about.
And to be fair, Elon and Milo were ganging up
on him.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Mylo tweeted out, remember when Nick had his money frozen
by the GoJ Ask him how he got them to
unfreeze it. Answer informing, Then ask when it was unfrozen,
ask for proof. He was lying to fans every day,
every day, taking cash off teens, claiming his account was
frozen six months after he got it back, and Elon
Musk responds by saying, it doesn't make sense that the

(17:19):
FBI leaves twentys alone unless he is an asset of
some kind.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Dun't dun't dunh. So it was kind of right. They
certainly were ganging up on him, and I'm not sure
that it was at the instigation of.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Jews.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Candisen is basically like.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
She responds on to it, says, Oh, here we go again, guys,
laugh my ass off. Nick talks trash about literally everyone
claiming their friends, but when they've the very people he
speaks about reply to him, he says, it's some high
level coordinated attack, me coordinating with Elon Musk. Have you
watched even a minute of my content? Owen stated, I

(18:03):
maintain Nick Frents is a sheltered theater kid who cries
and lies pathologically. So friends decidres, fuck this, I'm gonna
get dirty with this, and so he calls out Candice
for not acting against other people, specifically Milo Is and

(18:27):
what Nick Owen says is speaking of George.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Why didn't you just said, Nick Owen, Oh sorry, Nick Owen,
Oh yeah, the BBC guys, Yes, Sorr.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Nick calls out Candice Owens by saying, speaking of George,
which is her husband, George Farmer, why didn't you press
the pedophile jew Milo for publicly calling your husband gay
for years? If you're such a tough bitch like your granddad,

(19:06):
where was that energy with your Jewish fixer? You're such
a fake bitch, it's actually insane and everybody knows it.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
And Dan, what might this be?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
In reference to well for appearing in twenty twenty four, Milo,
who was then friends with Nick but is now friends
with Candace, decided to send out a series of tweets.
One of them said it was responding to someone said
that the more you tack Candace after she's only become
significantly better since leading in the Daily Wire, the more

(19:39):
it just makes me think that you are the Zionist
shill that everyone thinks you are.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
And Milo responds.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
By saying, guess what you can hate what the State
of Israel does, and you can hate this retarded, dark
skinned dyke and her gay husband at the same time,
glad I could help. In a separate tweet, Ian Miles Chong,
who's a born on the Internet, tweets out Candice Owen

(20:11):
says that Jews worship bapher Met and that they've practiced
pedophilia as part of their religion. What's a complete for
aw from Grace? And Milo says in response, because there's
a picture of her, how do you have a gay
husband and still dress like this? In a further tweet,
he says that I want to make something clear, Candace,

(20:33):
when I said your husband was gay.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I wasn't looking at him. I was looking at you.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
In a separate tweet, he says, it's disgraceful that Candice
thinks that she has an f slur pass simply because
her husband is a Nancy boy.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean when I think of the work I had
to put in for that thing.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
In a separate tweet, he said, Candice is a wealthy
woman who could have done anything and had anything. Her
marriage made almost anything possible for her, But she has
a fatal floor that resurfaces every time she's operating without
strong mail oversight.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
She doesn't know that she is completely stupid.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
He then said at the Daily Wire, Candace was waxed, tweezed, plucked,
and together on course to maybe one day be as
big as a network anchor. In her own way, despite
her obvious mental and emotional shortcomings, plus obviously the low
co for Coco puffs Ice bitch vibe from having a
gay husband. He also said, let me tell you something,

(21:32):
Candice Owen's husband is getting plunged.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
And so remember that.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I told you this is fascinating and school yard and
so far fro this is this is just glorious anyway,
and it gets worse. It gets so much worse anyway.
So she's replying to Nick Fantez, who basically says, like,
why don't you pull up Milo when you know you're
parent bestie now?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
When he was saying that your husband was.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Gay, and she refined, Oh, I see you're coming undone
and trying to pivot here.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Why don't you ask me about this in a person.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Instead of your usual virtual tough guy acts where you
throw wild allegations and claim everyone's trying to kill you.
And basically she says that, like she she just wants
to set up a debate with Charlie Kirk as the
moderator and debate Nick. And this is what's so transparent

(22:29):
about this is that basically they're all again seeing this
is like, how can I spin this for me, How
can I get more like likes for me and more
views for me and stuff like that. They've got no principles,
no strong ideology, well like nothing that they will stick to.
It's just grotty, and what the hell are they even
going to debate?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
They agree on like almost everything.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I don't know, Yeah, I don't know, basically, Like Nick
responds and says, I that's a real offer.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Have Charlie Kirk confirmed and maybe I'll consider it. Otherwise,
you're just embarrassing yourself. Everyone knows you wouldn't begging me
to come back if your first hit job succeeded. It
was always the loser asking for a rematch. So what
was all this about?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Basically, just prior to this, like a week earlier, a
couple of weeks earlier, Nick had been on Candice's show
and she was just fucking rude to him.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
She's really rude to him.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
It was bizarre, like she invited him on, and they
previously like supported each other and apparently been friendly and
whatnot and said nice things about each other.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
But it was strange, and.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Francis says, basically this is typical of women their gas
like gatekeep and girl Boss, and he says that in
this interview kind of set him up.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
He says, I really didn't like how it went. I
was disappointed, and by that I mean I was disappointed
with how she handled it. I think it was good content.
A lot of people enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
And.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Candice then decides to basically to describe Nick as the
Israel of the right, saying he routinely attacks people for
ostensibly no apparent reason, then plays a victim when people
have a perfectly predictable response to being wronged.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
So Jesus Christ. She's like, so, this is this interview,
and there was.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
There was actually a Candis Owens fan site that had
a sub stack. And even though she's a fan of Candice,
the headline of this review of the interview says Candice
Owens was crabby during her interview with Nick Fuents. So
we've all seen the classic interviewers, you know, We've seen Parkinson,

(24:49):
We've seen like Letterm, and we've seen people being able
to disarm people with charm, like Louis Therou is particularly
good at getting people to reveal thing things, And Candace
decides to try her own particular tactics. Do you want
to have a sort of rough ballpark guess of where

(25:11):
how she opened the interview, I'll be amazed.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You don't hate You don't hate Jews as much as
I do.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
That would have been That would have been the better.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think she decided to open up the show by saying, Nick,
welcome to the Candice Show. You talk a lot of shit.
And this review goes on to say, granted, it was
said with a smile that this oher foreshadowed Candace is
ill tempered, heavy handed, mum's plaining, nickpicking, growdiness that characterized

(25:47):
the whole conversation.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And uh okay.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
So prior to this, Candis has called friends out on
our show some weeks ago for accusing her of misrepresentation
where she verementally does with receipts, and in another episode,
she defended Frentis or at least gave a balanced reaction
to the mini Twitter feud between Frentis, Jordan Peterson, and Peterson's.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Daughter Michayla, because they this is it.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
This entire economy is based on them arguing and bitching
and like going backwards and forwards and going on each
other's shows and stuff like that. To give the impression
that basically there's more people interested in them than they
actually are. So basically, during this interview, she she's usually
like a fairly courteous interview, but she just basically just
interrupted and like went on personal gripes and it got

(26:34):
really sort of like annoyed with with well, define that
word and define this, and she tried to belittle him
and the accused him of being triggered basically, and then
basically what happened was she she finished the interview by
just in the middle of like a sentence to say,

(26:55):
he's saying, right, I've got to stop because the baby's hungry,
and then she just walked off and says off camera,
all right, bring him to me, and the camera sort
of focuses on Nick, and he's just sat there and
goes like, oh, all right, okay, you shouldn't say goodbye,
shouldn't even earn the interview.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Now, there may be a reason for this because.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
What what what happens is they had a fundamental disagreement,
what something that that they weren't really able to get past, and.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
That fundamental disagreement was that.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Nick doesn't believe that there should be any mixed race marriages.
And obviously she is of a mixed race, and she
also basically sort of accused him of being selfish because

(28:02):
he hasn't got a family, and it says that she
keeps sort of needling Nick, but why haven't you got
you know, why.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Haven't you settled down? Why haven't you found a nice girl? Nick?
Is there any reason that you've not found a girl?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And basically saying that you need to be populating the
world with with with white people. And Nick responded by saying,
I don't appreciate the lecture.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
You don't know me.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I don't think you're in a position to give me advice,
especially as a woman. And like so, Candice then accused
him of getting super triggered, like she she just clearly
like pissed off that he said, look, I'm not listening
to you.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
You're a woman, I'm not listening and a woman of
color as well.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
And so Nick basically implies that the only reason that
she's married is because she's a grasping gold digger. And
he says, you know, I could go and start a
family and drag them into a world of mine, which
is pretty chaotic, you know, I mean, this is really
kind of a lifestyle if I'm banned on everything, and
I can't make a living. I'm banned from banking, I'm

(29:11):
banned from credit card processing, I'm getting docked docks, people
showing off at my house, trying to kill me, things
like that, and what's more, I mean, let's also get
you know. I also don't appreciate the lecture you don't
know me. You don't know so you're married, and I
know that you're older than me, but you don't know me.
You don't know my life, you don't know my situation.

(29:31):
I don't think you're in a position to give me advice,
especially as a woman. Obviously, I don't think you know,
this is something in the right wing. We say we're
anti feminists, and then women go around telling men what
to do who are not their husbands, and you know,
I really don't buy into that ideologically. But that's besides
the point. My life has been to mutus from the beginning.
From the time I turned eighteen, people were coming from

(29:51):
my neck and trying to get me, and I was
kicked out of college. And then you know, once you're
branded as an anti.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Semiti before it became cool or popular, you can't get
a job because make a living, you get panned from
PayPal and all this stuff. Do you know that's so difficult?
What do I do? I go out on Tinder.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I go to a bar and say, hey, I'm a
neo Nazi Nick Fentz that the ADL is writing articles
about every day. I'm going to start a dating pipe
profile on Tinder. People are going to streamshot that mess
with me in all kinds of ways. It's been a
very difficult predicament actually for me, because I took on
basically a huge sacrifice at the beginning, and I don't
know that you really appreciate that enough. I think you're

(30:29):
somebody who you know, you had a career in politics
for as long as I was fighting a battle. You're
at the daily wire with a contract, you're at turning point,
you're making good money, you're doing book deals. You're part
of this thing that I'm criticizing and paying a very
heavy price for out a time when no one's saying
those things, when it's unpopular.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
And not to say that I'm that.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know that we've lived different lives, and you know
it's easy I think for you to say you had
a husband, have your kids, that you've got your ducks
in a row, made a bit of money, and then
you discovered the truth and then you went out on
a limb. And it's not to say that you didn't
make sacrifices and it wasn't a risk and it paid off.
But you're doing great now and I congratulate you. But

(31:11):
with me, there was no calculation. I mean I almost
want to say, I was seventeen.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
What's your excuse?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And so he's basically there just accused her of calculating
in her life choices, shall we say, And that was
the reason that basically they fell out. She's essentially needling
him for not having a kid, and there was a
slight undercurrent of her suggesting that he might potentially not

(31:44):
be interested in women, and then he needles her with that.
With that basically absolutely right, that she's calculated everything in
her life. But what's the wonderful thing to take out
there is that Nick Frantis is clearly, deeply, deeply unhappy,
Like he's very conscious that he can't connect with people

(32:06):
because people will fuck with him. He can't send stuff
to people like a Twitter, a text message or something
trying to hook up with anybody. He's made this reality
where he's isolated. He's completely isolated himself, and he talks
about how hard that was and how you know he
had a rough time of it and was sort of
forced into this position, and you just think, ah, good,

(32:32):
it's one.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Of those things where like you're popular about lonely. Yeah, absolutely,
Like it's if he wasn't, if you didn't have all
those reprehensible views and wasn't such a terrible person. Like
he's so right in many of the things that he's
saying about these people.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, he's cutting and he gets it,
he gets it.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
But this is the point. They're all so close to
each other, they all see the flaws in one another,
and they're not shy to point it out.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's hilarious, but they're all just complete hypocrites.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
He does remind me a bit of like Ike in
that sense of like being the contrarian.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, even within the contrarians, like you know, I don't
need anybody, I want this for myself.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
And like, but also sticking to their core narrative and
not bending on it.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah yeah, well, I mean he's a Nazi and you're
not gonna you're not gonna move him on that or
are you It's just fascinating.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's just fascinating.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I mean, you know, that would be dreadful if, like,
you know, he abandoned those types of principles for money
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Maybe that will.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Come up later, who knows, we can see. But basically,
so Candy s Owns, we need to have a little
bit of a look into who Candy Owns is. And
can you believe that if you deve just even the
most cursory look at her background, it is as as
a fun sized fascist has said. It seems to be

(34:08):
somewhat calculating. She first sort of came to prominence. She's
from New York, but she grew up in Connecticut, and
she first came to prominence in two thousand and seven,
and this is when she was seventeen. She was only
seventeen at the time. Candidethings, who doesn't believe in sort

(34:33):
of black lives matter, has made a prominent point of
saying that racism isn't a thing in America and stuff
like that. Doesn't believe in victim culture obviously, like this
is these are all things that you could you could
say about Candice. She sued the Stanford Board of Education
in federal court, alleging that the city did not protect

(34:54):
her rights, and basically one thirty seven and a half
thousand dollars. Now, in all fairness to her, she was
receiving racist death threats. So this woman who claims that
racism doesn't exist, actually sued the school that she went
to because they didn't protect her from racism, and it
was horrible. Basically, what happened was a group of white

(35:16):
male classmates, which included the son of the mayor who
actually went on to be a Democratic governor, chap called
Daniel Malloy. They left two messages which were about two
minutes long, threatening her, calling her dirty, threatening to burn
her house down and tar and feather her, and said

(35:39):
this is grim.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
But for somebody that now has.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
The opinion that racism isn't really a big deal and
you really shouldn't moan about these things because they don't exist,
she's experienced herself and actually had a positive result from
calling that shit out.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
So she's a dreadful hypocrite.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
In twenty fifteen, she's the CEO of a marketing agency
called Degree one eighty and basically she just set herself
up as like a consultant, and she did a blog
that was written by her and a couple of different
people were mostly her.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Can you guess what one of the prominent blogs that
she wrote was all about, So what this is before
she's a right winger or well this is twenty fifteen. Yeah,
it was Swissteen. It's got to be black lives matter. No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
She was writing about how batshit crazy the Republican Party were,
especially the tea party elements of the Republican Party. Like
she wrote in one of these blogs, the good news
is that they will eventually die off peacefully in their sleep,
we hope, and then we can get right on with
the obvious social change that needs to happen immediately. And
in twenty sixteen, she wrote an entire article mocking the

(36:57):
small size of Donald Trump's peanut.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
She then also that year, in twenty sixteen, she set
up a website which was called social autopsy dot com.
She had an idea. It's not a brilliant idea. In fact,
it's a very stupid idea, but some have said that
potentially her heart was in the right place. You see,
Candice owns the acid tongues. No, she doesn't take any ship.

(37:26):
You know, she doesn't care, fuck your feelings, all of this.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
She decided to set up a website to expose people
bullying people on the internet. She was actively trying to
stop cyber bullying, you know, hurty words as they would
now call that.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
That was what she was doing.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
But she did have, again a very stupid idea of
what was the best way to tackle this particular problem.
She thought that the best way to tackle cyber bullies
was to dox them. So if people don't know what
boxing is, it basically means revealing whether these people live
to encourage sort of personal harassment or not necessarily where

(38:08):
they live, but usually where they live, just basically ways
for people to contact you so that they can they
can pester you. And this led to her interacting with
somebody that if somebody had said, you know who Candy
Senes used to be vaguely involved with, and said this person,

(38:30):
I would be astonished. You won't guess this right if
some people might not even know who she is. But
but off the back of this anti harassment site that
she'd set up, she was targeted or she was contacted
by Zoe Quinn.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Oh okay, yeah, now, yeah, exactly. Now, if people don't
know who's a quinn is, ay Quinn is. It was
the target of a thing called gamergate.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Essentially, what happened was she'd split up with her boyfriend
and then and her boyfriend decided to create this idea
that she'd slept with certain game reviewers in order to
get a positive review of her game. The principal problem
with this theor was that this person never reviewed her
game that she'd designed, so the theory just fell completely flat.

(39:19):
But what happened was a sustained campaign of harassment against
her and numerous other women within the computer gaming industry,
suggesting that that there was that this was. It wasn't
just harassing women and you know, imputent men trying to
make themselves feel scary and dangerous.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Oh no, no, no, it was about.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Integrity within the online gaming reviewing community.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
That was what it was about.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And interestingly, Steve Bannon and Mila Aneapolis were also very
involved in game again, so this is where they basically
got their start into well, not Banner, but there certainly
where he got involved in certain things that would become
prominent in his life followed from that. So Quinn basically
tried to warn Candace that like, mate, I don't know

(40:11):
whether you understand the fucking Internet, but this is not
a thing that you should do.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
And you shouldn't get involved.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
She was starting to get involved with the sort of
Gaminggate people, and they said, look that it's not going
to end well. And lo and behold, Candice became targeting
number one for huge amounts of people. She got completely
just death threats again, like deeds attacks, anything that you
can do, all this hate mail, loads of people writing

(40:42):
shit about her all over the Internet. And what Candice
did was she turned on Zoe Quinn. Now, these debates
as to why this happened, I've seen some people basically
saying that that she just misunderstood that she thought that
Zoe Quinn her warning was like a threat and she
put two and two together and said, oh, it's obviously

(41:02):
her that's behind this coordinated attack. Now, there are other
people that basically said that she did this in order
to ingratiate herself with the people that were attacking her,
Like obviously you couldn't, you couldn't say. But what obviously
what then happened was that the gamer Gate trolls decided

(41:22):
that actually actually Candice Orange would be a better ally
than an enemy, and basically decided that everyone decided to
start supporting her and claiming that they've pilled her, they'd
read pilled her. And this is where she became a conservative,
saying in twenty seventeen, I became a conservative overnight when

(41:43):
I realized that liberals were actually the racists. Liberals were
actually the trolls social autopsy is why I'm conservative. And
that's bullshit, that's absolute bullshit. It wasn't liberals that were
attacking you and being red towards you. It was conservatives
that you then decided to attack yourself to Like it's

(42:08):
almost like trauma bonding or like, you know, people.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Making excuses for a domestic abuser. It's crazy, Like I
hope it's that.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I do hope it's that that it's some sort of
mental imbalance, because if it's not, that it's purely commercial
and that makes her the worst type of person on
the planet.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Also in twenty seventeen, she started knocking about with Charlie
Kirk and she got a job with Turning Point USA.
And I don't want anybody to think that Turning Point
USA is one of those organizations that has clumsy racists
type names for certain things because it's out of touch

(42:54):
and doesn't understand terms and stuff like that, but they
did higher Owens the organization's director of urban engagement, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Yes, so.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
She also was trotted out after the Unite the Right
rally in Charlottesville, which is where you must remember Nick
Fuentes first burst onto the scene. And obviously this was
a white nationalist march who was shouting blood and on
her Jews were not replaces and stuff like that. But
it's all right because Candiss Owens said that any concern

(43:37):
over rising white nationalism was stupid. So George Farmer, who
is her husband, he proposed a marriage to Candis Owens
via FaceTime call on the twenty ninth of December twenty eighteen,
which was only eighteen days after he'd met her for

(43:57):
the first time, when she was on holiday in London, right,
so she would have been home for Christmas. So that
leaves a very very short amount of time for them
to have physically interacted with one another before they got married.
Who is George Farmer. George Farmer is the chairman of
Turning Point UK. He's the former CEO of Parlor, which

(44:22):
was the communication thing like Twitter that was also Rebecca
Mercer was involved with. And he's also the CEO of
Parliament Technologies. He went to Oxford where he earned a degree.
This is fascinating if the rumors about George Farmer are true.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Do you know what his degree was? In all Right's theology?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Oh, Melada was discussing religion and religious doctrines and maybe
trying to figure out what was I mean, you see
we're speculating here with spitballing and stuff like that. But
if the rumors are true, I know you were writing
this as like a sitcom, sorry, as a drama. The
man that potentially was struggling with his sexuality being interested

(45:10):
in theology.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
And the religious arguments for and against this state of
being that he finds himself in. Well, that would be salacious,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
He's also really close friends with Andrew Tate George Farmer.
They were friends before Andrew Tate was famous. And this
is why Candie Owens has Andrew Tate and his brother
on and constantly defends them and lies about their ongoing
court cases.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah, isn't it so? In twenty eighteen she promoted blexit.
Can you remember what blecks it was?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
No, it was the Black exit from the Democrats, where
she and Kanye West were encouraging black people to and
I quote, get off the plantation. Because it's really Democrats
that racist. It's not right wingers, it's not conservatives. It's

(46:11):
somehow the people on the left wing that are racist.
And you know, this idea that they're just being nice
to you is for nefarious ends apparently didn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
That doesn't make sense now.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
So anyway, she was out Turning Point UK's launch in
December twenty eighteen and she decided that, you know, people
asked us some questions and she decided to make some
comments about a certain historical figure that in retrospect some
people have said, I wouldn't have spoken about him at

(46:49):
the launch of Turning Point UK because it has connotations
and connections. Do you know which this is quite famous?
Do you know which historical figures she decided to Some
would say Champion and some would say you know, sugar coat.
She she would say, otherwise not saying not no, not right, that.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Would be awkward.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Only she she spoke in positive terms about someone who's nefarious,
as Bill Cosby. That'd be awfuln't it. No, it was
it was Hitler.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I knew it was, she said. She basically right. She
was asked.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
For a long term prognosis about globalism and nationalism by
an audience member, and she said, I don't have any
problems with it at all. The word nationalism. I think
that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism.
Globalism is what I don't want. Whenever we say nationalism,

(47:58):
the first people think about, at least in America is Hitler.
You know, Hitler was a national socialist. But if Hitler
just wanted to make Germany great and have things run, well, okay, fine.
The problem is that he wanted he had dreams outside
of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to

(48:19):
be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look
a different way. That's not to me, that's not nationalism.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
This fucked my life. Like, I know, my brain sometimes
goes on tangents and stuff like that. But when you
were like trying to say positive things about nationalism, like,
what the.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Fucking hell were you thinking? Going this is probably a
good time to bring up Hitler.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
You know what I mean, it's like and also she's
all over the fucking place.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Nationalism is a definition that gets poisoned by elitists that
actually want globalism.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Is that even me.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I suppose what she's saying is that he's demonized by
people who actually want sort of globalism, And by globalism
she means a sort of cooperative sort of state of
being as opposed to isolation and isolated nations. And then
the positive idea that she says to bring propose to
her fucking ideas, you know, like Nazi Germany like that

(49:22):
until it went a bit too wrong, until he went
wrong and started expanding outside of its borders, and then
it changed to globalism, Like what a fucking more on.
This woman is absolutely stupid. She basically she tried to
clarify in a tweet.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
She said.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
There was a homicidal, psychopathic maniac that killed his own people,
and Hitler was not a nationalist. He murdered his own people,
and nationalists would not kill their own people. She said
that the point of her comments was to say that
there is no excuse or defense ever for everything that
Hitler did, which is bullshit because she didn't she extol
him as a as an example of nationalism before he

(50:03):
went mental and tried to take over the planet.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Mm.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, anyway, in May twenty nineteen, she started a show
of her own, the Candice Own Show on Prager You.
Prague You is owned by the Wilkes brothers, who are
fracking and oil magnates who also finance The Daily Wire, and.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Ben Shapiro in a big way.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I think this is where I started to see Candice
Owens on Prager University videos.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Did you used to watch Praguer you?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Did you?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
I'd seen her on the Blexit thing.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Not because I liked it, but because it was like ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Fair enough, didn't she call herself black pill or black something,
black pilled or something at one point as well? I'm
sure she called herself that, and that's where I first
saw her.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
But anyway, soon.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Those things again kind of like the New Culture Forum,
where I started watching these right wing figures who were like,
they were using our shit. Man, who are these people?
Why are they talking about these things that we used
to believe in pushing? And that's where I started to

(51:22):
come across these figures.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Well, I'd love to criticize, but that's exactly how I
find out about all the shit that we're talking about
right now.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Watching that shit, because it's like, this is incredible, What
the fuck is going on? Yeah, basically, so for some reason,
in April twenty nine, she gave testimony before the US
House Judiciary come in Hey on the rise of hate
crimes and white supremacists in the United States, and she
made the claim that the Southern strategy employed by the
Republican Party to increase political support among white voters in

(51:53):
the South by appealing to racism was a myth that
never happened. So basically what happened was the Southern strategy
was was the Republican Party. It's essentially that they used
racist tactics. They said, if you vote for Democrats, the
likelihood is that you will see more black people. And

(52:18):
it was not dissimilar to the Conservatives. If you want
an N word for a neighbor, vote liberal law labor.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I just thought the exact same thing.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Yeah, it's it's a thing that they do, like they
put it out there and then these people will say, well,
of course I vote a Democrat, but because it's appealed
to their racism, they go and vote conservative and then ah,
nightmare but she was basically shot down by several well

(52:47):
versed historians on the subject, who said that the existence
of the Southern strategy was a well documented and dated
back to the Civil rights area.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Historian Kevin Cruz.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Who writes christal about modern conservatism, called owen statements what
to nonsense. Also later in that year, for no apparent reason,
Owen said that African Americans had it better in the
first hundred years after the abolition of slavery in the
United States than they have ever since in America, and
that socialism was at fault and there's several things wrong

(53:22):
with that. It's like, you don't actually have any fucking socialism.
And also that's bollocks, absolute fucking bollocks. But again, this
is why it was important to include that thing at
the beginning about her basically so where she was like
she was a victim of racism, pretending that all this
shit never happened like is outrageous. She then went on

(53:43):
to start doing the Daily Wire. She left Peggie You
and went onto the Daily Wire, which is essentially owned
by the same people anyway, and she started to up
the ante claiming that George Sauros was behind all the
protests of the murder of George Floyd. Now, George Floyd
was the man that was murdered by a police officer

(54:04):
by kneeling on his throat for nearly nine minutes.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
And obviously people this.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Was where this sort of wasn't was it the origin
or was it where they just sort of rose to prominence.
Black Lives Matter They became prominent off the back of this,
and obviously she was completely opposed to this, and then
there was all the rumors that basically that was all
funded by Sauros and it was to riot and cause
a civil war and all that shit.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, it's probably when it became prominent in like mainstream media,
but they had been around for a little while before that,
I think, right sometime around twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
That makes sense, Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
But she basically she claimed that the trial of the
police officer Derek Chauvin was a mob justice and not
a fair trial, and she contended that nobody could claim
that it.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Was a fair trial.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Correction, they were founded in two thousand.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Oh fabulous fair pe.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
So in March twenty twenty one, she decides that she
wants to start a beef but not just any old beef,
a beef with a rapper.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Do you know which rapper she decided to decide to
have a go atack?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
No, he wasn't a snack that would have been interesting.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
It was it was Cardi B.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
So yeah, I remember this.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
She she basically got all up in her shit about
the performance of WAP. And that's interesting because Ben Shapiro
was also very very annoyed by WAP. So she she's
having to go at Cardi B and basically calling her
a disgusting horror and all this sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
So Cardi B tweeted something out. She tweeted.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
She tweeted out a screenshot of a tweet supposedly sent
by Candice Owens.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Did you see this tweet? Can you remember what it said? No?

Speaker 3 (56:01):
The tweet supposedly by Candice Owens, which was screenshotted by
rapper Cardi B said yes, my husband did cheat on
with me, on me with my brother, and he said
no when I asked to join them. Now, Candiss Owens

(56:22):
pushed back and said that this was photoshopped, and Cardi
B basically posted screenshots with several blogs that had reported
on this, tweeted and deleted message. Now it transpires that
this wasn't a real tweet. It wasn't a real tweet,
but people believed it because well you could you say

(56:44):
why people believed it. But it's there's even the funnier story.
You know, know who created this meme? It wasn't Cardi
B like you'll never guess it was fun. No, it
wasn't DJ Ladder, although that would have been nice. It
was it was fans of the One Direction singer Harry Styles.

(57:10):
You see what happened, Candy Sowens.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Yeah, great, this isn't it.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Candy Sowens had criticized Harry Styles because he'd appeared on
the cover of Vogue wearing a dress. Okay, so yeah, yeah,
And so she'd basically said that this was not masculine
and that it was a detriment to society. And she'd
started arguing with fans of Harry Styles and One Direction.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Online and so so they decided to get together.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Someone made this false, false tweet about her husband having
an affair with her brother, and they posted it everywhere
on the internet. Fans of One Direction, Oh.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Isn't isn't that marvelous? Isn't that marvelous?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
But one of the reasons that that sort of stuck
or was believed was because of tweets that had come
out prior to this from Rahemkam. Do you know who
Raheem Cassam.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Is.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
No, he's a he's a He worked for bright Bart.
His title is journalists, but that that's very charitable. He
worked for bright Bart, and he tweeted out a series
of things. The more I know about this world, I sorry,
I know more about this world than I care to.
Mercer tried to get me to tell Bannon to shut

(58:51):
up about populist nationalism. I was the guy who hired
Milo at bright Bart. Farmer George Farmer has set she
assaulted me. Candace blocked me for calling her sham marriage
out I know this from all angles. This was in
November of twenty twenty two. He also tweeted out to

(59:16):
in a discussion about Candace, well, when your husband is
a homosexual, that makes for a difficult marriage. But if
you support that kind of thing, I'm happy to lose you.
And someone responded, why would Candice marry someone who is
pretending that doesn't seem like her? However, I'd trust you
more than her. After she bashed President Trump and stabbed

(59:37):
him in the back, and Raheem Kasam responds, yes, I
wonder why the perennial grift of Candice Owens would want
to marry into the family.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Of a wealthy British lord. This is very difficult to
figure out.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
And then a final tweet by him was, well, me
too years ago when her husband tried to make out
with me, or when she lied about inventing the Blexit thing,
or when she blocked me for telling people how she
behaved on set at Fox. And so that's Raheem Kassam
on a couple of occasions saying that her marriage to

(01:00:08):
George Farmer is a sham and that George Farmer tried
it on with him, which he considers sexual assault. What
a twisted web these people weave.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
I see.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I just want to say, we're not saying anything. This
is all in the public domain. We're not speculating, we're
not trying to be salacious, and you know, we don't
care if people are gay, like more power to you.
What we care about is hypocrites and the projection that
comes out of the more extreme figures of the right

(01:00:46):
wing and far right wing media.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I just want to say one more thing as well,
about Black Lives Matter being started in twenty thirteen. It
was in response to George Zimmerman's acquittal of shooting Trayvon Martin.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Wow, was it off the back of that? I mean
fair play? That makes sense, That's what I was one
most complute sense for. I did not know that. I
did not realize it as far back as that. Yeah,
So anyway, speaking of black Lives Matter.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
In October twenty twenty two, Kendis decided that a very
good idea was to appear in the Paris fashion show
for s Z and nine wearing a T shirt saying
white Lives Matter, standing next to Carne West, who was
wearing a similar T shirt. It's it's just tragic in

(01:01:45):
Joanney twenty twenty four, she in a post on Twitter,
she accused transgender people of mass drugging children and claimed
that the LGBTQ movement brought with it a sexual plague
on our society.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Interesting if the real was true.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
I mean she's she's also basically like, she's really critical
of Israel, Okay, but not.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Not in any sensible way. She ties it in with
because it's populated Jews.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah, that's that's her problem, not Israel's foreign policy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
It's all the fucking Jews that are there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
That's why she doesn't like it. Basically brilliant. But in
Optember twenty twenty three she did she condemned an Australia
strike on a church in Gaza that resulted in the
deaths of Christians. But again I've been disgusted by the
propagandas pretending a Christian church was not bombed, Christians were chilled. No,

(01:02:43):
Christians should stay silent. If you think it's anti semitism
to notice innocent Christians were killed in IDF bombing, then
you need to log off.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
No, it's not. It's not anti semitism for that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Other things that she said are deeply anti Semitic, and
it is grim that basically she doesn't give a fuck
about things until she's got that angle that she can
sell to her audience that it's Christians being killed, like
that was not the first atrocity that had been carried
out in Gaza.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I'm telling you that like it just wasn't. But she
wasn't interested in anything before. As you say, she was
critical of Jews, she was not critical of Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Although she did go on and say that no government
anywhere has a right to commit a genocide ever, and
this basically led to her falling out with Ben Shapiro,
who was the co founder of The Daily Wire, which
is where she worked, and this is so in March
twenty twenty four she left, and then she was accused
of anti semitism and also accused of downplaying the prevalence

(01:03:41):
of anti Semitism, and she one of her famous that
she said, people who are now skimming anti Semitism is
everywhere are actually just racial supremacists, which is one of
those like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
The real racists of the anti racist type shit. It's
just bullshit basically, but here's an interesting thing. At that time,
she also criticized Jordan Peterson. She was cross with him
because he'd called Nick Fuentes or Nicholas fun Times a
psychopathic rat after afents had tweeted that Jews control the

(01:04:14):
Biden administration, and Owen's even supported him by saying that
Frentes could actually be correct based on the number of
Jewish officials in the Biden administration and saying that it
seems a weird tweet for Peterson to be so disturbed
about this. Now She also.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Referred to Nicholas fun Times as having a very long
background of focusing his attention on Israel and Zionism, and
that's what he's reacting to. And fuentis Is also previously
praised Owens, saying that she was waging and I quote,
a full fledged war against the Jews. So they were friends,
or at least when when they felt was mutually beneficial,

(01:04:57):
they you know, fluff each other off essentially. Now, in
August seventeen of this year, I decided that she'd go
down a different route and she posted a roughly one
minute video in which she decided that she discovered who
was behind the assassination of John F.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Can you guess who she decided was behind the assassination
of John F.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Kennedy, Bill Cosby? It was Bill Cosby?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Yes, No, she decided that he was Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Israel had decided to kill jfk damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
I was going to go that way.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
And she warned that anybody that criticizes Israel or the
Jews is in danger of being killed. She says, do
you think it's normal that basically every person who speaks
about Israel has to basically say a statement that you know,
I don't want to get killed, she ranted in the video,
which circulated widely on x Later, she added that Israel

(01:05:59):
has taken over the USA, and days later she did
an interview with Tristan Tate and who's the brother of
Andrew Tate, the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Pimp and sex trafficker, and in it she started going.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
On about the conspiracy theory that Joseph Stalin was Jewish,
and she also said that Sigmund Freud and all the
Stalinists were part of this Jewish cabal. And she went
on to state that Sigmund Freud studied the Kabbala and
also promoted pedophilia through psychoanalysis. The irony of saying that

(01:06:38):
when she's having a chat with Tristan Tate, who is
alleged to have had anal sex with a fifteen year
old girl that he trafficked, it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Is not lost on me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Also, I've studied a bit of psychoanalysis. I don't record
the bit worried from out to pedophilia.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Maybe it was more towards the end of the book,
like I just yeh didn't find that she also equated
Jews with Marxist and she says that the Jews want
to rewrite history. She implied that these Marxists were Jews
and that they assassinated the Czar in Russia in the
eighteen eighties under the guise of pograms. And she said

(01:07:19):
that the media has also tried to convince people that
Stalin and Lenin were anti Semitic, and then agreed with
Tate that the two Russian leaders were actually part of
a Jewish kabbal Now Stalin and Lenin were hugely anti Semitic, like,
it's just that's just a fact, and Marx wasn't Jewish,
so you know, these are old, debunked conspiracy theories. She

(01:07:45):
also claimed that Judaism was and I quote, a pedophile
centric religion that believes in demons and child sacrifice, and
that she is waking people up to the fact that
pedophiles are in power, which is just crazy. But she
had a big fan off the back of all this,

(01:08:05):
which was Nick Fantis or Nicholas fun Times. He said,
Candie Owens has been on a tear recently. She's in
a full fledged war against the Jews and specifically some
of these Zionist rabbis, and I've been watching her evolution.
It's been remarkable to witness. In July twenty twenty four,

(01:08:28):
Owens released an episode of The Candice Owen Show on YouTube.
And I don't want to suggest that she's trying to
be sort of outrages to gain attention or to cause
of outrage in some sort of edgy way that a
teenager would do, But this particular video was titled and
it's like sorry, the nineties called and wanted your sort

(01:08:49):
of like phrasing back. It was called literally Hitler, Why
can't we talk about him? Yes, if only someone would
talk about Hitler because we know so little about the man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Like the fuck, what are you fucking un about? But anyway, she.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Criticized mainstream narratives regarding Nazi Germany, saying that that what
most people think they know about Nazi Germany is comparable
to Soviet tactics of indoctrination. She also denied that any
medical experiments were carried about by Joseph Mangler on concentration

(01:09:35):
camp inmates, claiming that experiments the idea that these experiments
occurred was bizarre propaganda, The idea that you just cut
up a human and then sew them back together. Why
would you even do that, even if you're the most
evil person in the world, that's a tremendous waste of
time and supplies. Now, in the interest of fairness, there

(01:09:56):
is a degree of accuracy to that, not that no
experiments were done, but this idea that he sewed people together,
or sew twins together.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
With all her the angel of Death VI.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Slayer so together joining heads people don't as wide awake nightmare.
I can't remember it, but the gist of it is
he didn't actually do that. He did some fucked up shit,
but some of the things that he said, like trying
to reverse a girl's urine tract through her through a

(01:10:30):
lower intestine, stuff like that, that didn't happen. I think
there was an idea that he tried to swap heads,
or he was trying to alter people's eyes to make
them blue so that they that they would be more airy,
and that's not strictly true. But they did do lots
of fucked up stuff, and it wasn't a very pleasant time,
and he just would would It was bizarre because he

(01:10:51):
did the kids that he was experimenting on, he actually
treated him with a degree of sort of pleasantness for
a bit and then on the whim or when they
became useless.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
To him, he dejected them into the heart with something
like petrol and so murdered.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah, disgrace, and absolutely think for a second that this
is this is where we like rehabilitate the image of
Joseph Mengler. That's not happening, just the selling people together bit. Anyway,
she also referred to the Holocaust as an ethnic cleansing
that almost took place, whilst actually saying that after the

(01:11:27):
war the Allies actually did an ethnic cleansing on the Germans,
and what she's doing there is referring to sort of
like concentration counts where sort of German and Japanese people
were interned in after the war, which is a grim
thing obviously, but there is that they didn't ethnically cleanse Germans.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
It was just not a thing, not not in the
way that she's described.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
She's also doing the fucking David Iike thing of saying
that Ashkenazi Jews trace their origins to Kazars and that
they aren't related to bill Jews, and so for there
any that therefore, any anti Semitism isn't anti semitism, because
Semitic actually refers to Arabic people, and so if you're
calling Jews shit, that's not anti Semitism.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
And it's like, are you really.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Nippick you're gonna nitpick about it like that? Fine, all right,
call it bigotry or racism or whatever you want to
call it. Then like like, it doesn't excuse the behavior,
like because you've misdescribed it, or because you think someone's
misdescribed it. She says that they were forced to convert
to Judaism by Persians and Russians in the eighth century,

(01:12:36):
but they did not meaningly convert, and they carried on
their corruption and sexual deviancy. And she suggested that their
religious teachings tell them to infiltrate everywhere, and the elites
are disgusting, despicable people, and she implied that the war
in Ukraine is actually linked to Jews, essentially the Kazar's
desire to seek revenge on Russia and Iran. And then

(01:12:59):
she went to on to blame all the instances of
sexual abuse in the Catholic Church on secret Kazarian Jews
that disguised themselves as Catholics and then boggered a load
of children in order to give the Catholic Church a
poor reputation, which is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Big if true. She then went on to say that
Leo frank who is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
The Jewish businessman who was wrongly convicted of the murder
of a child, Mary Fagan, who was then lynched after
he was found to be innocent of the crime. It
said that the murder of Mary Fagan was part of
a ritual murder on Passover in which blood was extracted
from children. And she goes on to say that there

(01:13:48):
is a Frankish cult masquerading behind Jews that engages in pedophilia,
incest and sacramental rights, and there are tens of thousands
of pedophiles who hide from justice Israel. Most people won't
spot that, but if you're nerdy about conspiracies, like like
we are, she's talking about Sabbatian Frankists. She's talking about

(01:14:11):
these secret Jews who aren't really Jews, that pretend to
be Jews and then infiltrate into other things while it's
still being Jewish in order to control the world, which
is basically like anti Semitism with layers of it can't
be anti Semitism because they're not really Jews. Jews that
David Ike has popularized which he actually nicked from a
book that came out in the eighties by a man

(01:14:32):
called Rabbi Antleman, who I don't think was a real
rabbi by any start of the imagination. And that is
the idea of the Sabbatian Frankists as this hidden group.
She's called it a Frankish cult because she thinks it's
named after Leo Frank. Leo Frank was the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Jewish gentleman that was wrongly convicted of a murder and then,
when found innocent, was lynched, and his murder led to
the foundation of the Anti Defamation League.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
So you're telling me she didn't do her research.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Not even fucking close. She's heard two certain things and
she's mashed them together in her brain, and she's got
it totally wrong. Frank Sinatra absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Now, this led to a fallout with her father in law,
Lord Farmer, the father of George Farmer, who has been
accused by several people of being secretly gay, repudiated her
for these repeated anti Semitic remarks, and also off the
back of this, she was disinvited from Trump campaign fundraisers

(01:15:41):
following criticism from from Jewish lobbyists, so.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
She decided to go a different route. Have you seen
what Candice's most recent bullshit's about? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Are we talking.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Macarn Yes? Yes, the pretty mcron, the wife of French president.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
In the manual, Macron is secretly a transgender man, or
is a man in disguise, and it is not in
entirely clear whether she says that she's transitioned or whether
she's pretending or what she said. After looking into this,
I would stake my entire professional reputation that doesn't count

(01:16:20):
for much anyway, After looking into this, I would stake
my entire professional reputation on the fact that Bridget mccran
is in fact a man.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Any journalist of publication that is trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Dismiss this plausibility is immediately identified well as establishment. The
implications here are terrifying, and in twenty twenty five she
released this multi part video mini series titled Becoming Bridgette,
which promoted the conspiracy theory. She also promoted the book
by investigative Julius Xavier Prosered Don Viere Brugette, Becoming Brugette,

(01:16:52):
which is apparently sold rather well on Amazon. Now, the
Macron has actually filed a suit against her, and the
twenty two Cork count Court complaint is basically seeking punitive
damages against her and all her customers, sorry, all her companies,
and she's fucked. We might actually do a deep dive

(01:17:13):
into this, but I'm going to spill the tea on
this one now because I've read that investigation and her
retire and the lawsuit and her entire thing is based
on a lie.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
It's a twofold lie.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
She claims that there's never been any pictures of Bridget
Macron's brother, and that's just not true. There's lots and
lots of pictures of him as an adult. She claims
that he died or she died sorry, and he took
over her place by pretending to be a woman before
then pedophilically seducing Immanuel mccraranniy's her theory, and what she

(01:17:53):
said was that nobody's ever been able to provide evidence
and if anyone provides evidence to the contrary, and this
would include pictures of Bridget macran as a woman, pictures
of her sorry as a child, pictures of her pregnant,
pictures of her daughter, and pictures of her brother as

(01:18:13):
an adult. Also, maybe her birth certificate or other documentation
like that. And so do you know what the Macrons did?
Sent her a razzlestack, Not entirely, but they did send
her all the evidence that she asked for. They didn't
just send it to her once. They send it to
her on numerous occasions. Right, But it's even more embarrassing

(01:18:36):
than that, right, Okay, So when she keeps saying that
there's no evidence of this, like the evidence, you can
go and read the lawsuit. In the lawsuit, they show
the evidence that the Macrons had sent to her, proving
her theory wrong. But it's even more embarrassing than that.
She admitted that she first got the idea for this theory.

(01:18:56):
It's not even her own theory. She got the idea
from a Daily Mail article, Okay, which is not a
good place to start, But do you know what this
article was about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
This conspiracy theory was bullshit exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
It was debunking the book amazing, And that's where she
first got the idea. And either she doesn't care, or
she didn't check, or she just thought that, you know,
it was going to be a good idea for her
to do this, because.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Yeah, it's just one of those things where they don't
read the article. They just it's the headline.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
But they know that the following audience doesn't really care.
They just want the selations stuff and that like, and
so she keeps doubling down and doubling down. I think
she's going to come absolute cropper with this one. I
really do think that she's she's she's messed herself up
in a big way. So so basically they that's kind

(01:19:58):
of so she's fallen out with Nick about this, and
Nick's tweeting out in response to her, bitch, shut up
and go make me a sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
So Candice responds by saying, I'm literally.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Shaking right now. How will I ever survive being told
to go make a sandwich? You're really setting up an
example for real men everywhere. I'm trying my best to
calm down and collect myself. But I'm a woman, so
give me time. And Nicholas fun Times responds, Hey, take
all the time you need, turkey, provolone, lettuce, and tomato.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
Please easy on the mayo. Thanks, hon, I'm sorry I
hurt your feelings. Everyone can see that you're totally not
a raging bitch, and he goes on to say, the
thing is, I'm just really not myself when I'm hungry.
That's why I really need a sandwich. So so anyway,

(01:20:57):
she's fucked it, basically because when it comes to this
sort of stuff, Nick is better at it than her. Like,
I mean, they're all crap, and they're all despicable liars,
they're all hypocrites, but like you know, we're.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Here for the bitch fight, and she says, I'm honestly
in all how much Nick Fentz's has publicly lied about
me since he left my house, But rather than cry
about it, as he most.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
Definitely would, I have been said invited him back for
an actual debate where he can bring his alleged receipts.
To avoid this inevitable victim act, I've asked Dan Balzarian
to moderate the discussion so Nick can't put on his

(01:21:44):
favorite I was attacked because I'm just so real and
they're going to kill me. Too many theater boys in politics.
This will be fun because I think it will revealed
to the public. But we should not fear discussion if
we're telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
Dan Balzarian was one of these influencers who pretended to
be like a multi millionaire and had the lifestyle he's
steaded up to fuck, and he praised all these proses
to hang around him, which make it look like he's
successful for the women with the women, and he basically
came to light that he doesn't actually have any money.

(01:22:17):
He was renting all these places and actually someone else
was bankrolling him. And I suppose the idea was to
make money off his influencing, but he himself was not
anything close to the lifestyle that he was projecting. And
obviously when that failed, he did the obvious thing that
people do on Twitter nowadays. He decided to start going

(01:22:39):
against the Jews, figuring out that the Jews was mainly
the big problem. And one of his big sort of
things was he said that the Jews as a collective
perpetrated the Holidomore in the Soviet in Ukraine, assassinated John F. Kennedy,

(01:23:03):
also assassinated Mumarga Daffy and created and I quote, all
this transgender nonsense. Also obviously they did September eleventh. Needless
to say, that's all bollocks. He's also gone on the
record to say that Nazi Germany flourished when Hitler removed

(01:23:25):
Jews from the banking system and that Spain's Golden Age
began because it expelled the Jews at the end of
fourteen ninety two. He also has been interviewed by Piers
Morgan this stupid bastard, and he's argued that Judea is
and promotes supremacy and rape and steals from other people
as long as they're not Jewish, and that most of

(01:23:46):
the problems today are caused by Jewish supremacy. He's also
said that antisemitism, He's done the whole fucking antisemitism is
a misnomer because the Palestinian people are the real Semites,
but Eastern people are Ashcanazi Jews, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
They don't have Hebrew DNA.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
So you know, he's got pretty much the entire bingo
card of twatty anti Semitism, including Holocaust Denihalism. He's gone
on record to say that he would better his entire
net worth that it was less than six million, and
followed up by saying that Jews killed more Christians than

(01:24:24):
Jews were killed and that Jews essentially invented genocide, which
I'm pretty sure is completely fatchally inaccurate. But anyway, she
goes on basically kind of saying, it's talking about how
she's but she's trying to arrange this with either Dan
or Charlie Kirk and whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Nick can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Basically, she says, he's a pathological lie who created the
mythology of the most counceled man alive. If you're a
straight man who fell for this act, you're officially gay now.
Not another word from you little frog boys ever again.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Good night. And it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
It's said, like this is going to be a running theme,
like all of them accusing each other of being secretly
gay like and as if to to sort of like
take that to the next level. The other person that

(01:25:26):
they decided to start stepping into this is Milo Unopolis.
Milo Unopolis, who famously isn't gay anymore because of gay
conversion therapy, decided to start sticking up for candiss orians
Candice Owens, who previously he was not friends with and

(01:25:47):
was publicly outing her husband as being a secret home sexual,
a closeted home sexual, Candice of being her beard and
her marriage of being a sham. They're friends again now, apparently,
and so Milo decided to basically join in the Fray
and start having a go at Nick and she started

(01:26:10):
to repeat his rhetoric about and it was essentially about
Nicholas Fentis. On January the sixth, why wasn't is Nicholas
Fent's a fed Also is Nicholas Fentis secretly gay? And
Candace decided that she would essentially finish this whole thing
off by saying, people are like, why.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Are you arguing? You're all on the same side. You know,
maga yadda, yadda, yadda, all this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Fight the Jews, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and
Candice Owners decided to tweet out the litmus test is pedophilia.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Anybody who is in any way defending or covering for
elite pedophiles is the enemy. Don't care about your race, religion,
or ethnicity. If you are with pedophiles, you're against me.
And so I responded, you know your mate Milo, he
resigned from Breitbart due to defending pedophilia. You know your

(01:27:09):
friends The Taints are charged with anal sex of a
fifteen year old girl that they trafficked. You also interviewed
Jim Jordan, who covered up abuse of school children and
how's about that fucking Catholic church that you like so much?
And then in the next episode we're going to see
what happens when Milo sticks his fucking awe in.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Did you get them?

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
No? No? What's he going to do?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Good points, Neil. Actually, yeah, that's a fair point. I'm
a fucking hypocrite, aren't I
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