The World According To Some (10)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So they are call it conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to some darcolic conspiracy with Brentley and Neil Sanders.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought
someone really should keep a record of this decline, so
that when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of
civilization they might be able to see where it all
went wrong.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
This is the world according to some, or.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
As all the hepcats are calling it twats from now.
On February the thirteenth and to Alsie gathered or to
all see, Gabbard as she's called in Yorkshire was confirmed
as the head of National Intelligence in the United States

(00:58):
of America, despite the fact that in the past she's
held some strange views shall we say, well, not strange views,
but conspiratorial views and pro Russia, pro Syrian views and
other such things. Basically, during this the actual hearing where

(01:20):
she was confirmed, she refused to call Edward Snowden a traitor.
Which is interesting that one, because I don't know, I mean,
obviously technically is a traitor obviously within not just the
conspiratorial world, but within you know, he's thought of to

(01:43):
be quite a hero, isn't he.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, Well, technically yeah, he's a traitor.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
It is interesting. It is interesting that he did go
to Russia and he does. There is an argument that
has been put forward that I don't know enough about
the case that it's like the argument is that basically
he was always a Russian asset asset and yes he's
exposing spying on and there's no doubt that what he's

(02:13):
exposed is true and real, but probably all different countries
do it. And the way that it was framed was
to potentially, you know, make America look bad to Americans
quite rightly.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
So though to be honest, you.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Know, yeah, it's quite funny. I don't think a lot
of people maybe know about this. But in our time,
Edward Snowden wasn't really a hero in our sphere because
like he denied nine to eleven was.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
A job and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's just the thing. It was a bit like all
or nothing, wasn't it. And he worked for the governments
as well, didn't he.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
And it was like he wasn't believed by like the
conspiracy the conspiracy crowd at that time because of the
nine to eleven stuff, because he came out and said,
oh no, I looked into that and there's nothing in it.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, so obviously we all kind of rejected it and thought, well,
this is just some kind of sire.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, didn't he It wasn't it. J trig was one
of the big things that he exposed.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I was joint.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I can't remember what it's the thing it's it's essentially
it was manipulating.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
It was what he was doing with.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
This manipulation of people, astroturfing, like creation of false sort
of grassroots organizations and movements and stuff like that as well.
I think it was there was a few that all
came out around a similar time. But but yeah, so
Edward Snowden. But you know, if you're going to be

(03:46):
the head of national intelligence for the United States of America,
it's probably a good idea to voice the opinion that
Edward Snowden is a traitor, because otherwise you're suggesting that
it's perfect okay to steal classified secrets from the government.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
It's probably important to be intelligent too.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, you know, yeah, this is this is it. But
we can't have anything everything, can we. She She did
partially recount her views that in the past, she said
that Russia was essentially provoked into invading Ukraine. Yeah, using
the whole sort of NATO expansion and blah blah blah.

(04:25):
And she also during the Senate insisted that she had
no love for Bashar Ali sat the former dictator of
Syria currently residing in Moscow. I believe basically her pro
Russian views have been reported by The Independent quite recently.

(04:48):
There was a story where it says, in the summer
of twenty fifteen, three Syrian girls who narrowly survived in
air strikes some weeks earlier, stood before Toulsie gathered with
horrific burns all over their bodies. Gabbard, then a US congresswoman,
on a visit to the Syria Turkey border as part
of her duties for the Foreign Affairs Committee, had a
question for them, how did you know it was Vasha

(05:10):
Ala Sad or Russia that bombed you and not Isis?
She asks, And this is according to MUAs Mustafa, who
was a Syrian activist who was translating her conversation with
the girls. The Independent goes on to say it was
a revealing insight into Gavid's conspiratorial views of the conflict,
and it shocked MUFAs Mustafa to silence. He knew, as

(05:34):
even the young children did, that isis did not have
jets to launch airstrikes. It was such an absurd question
that he chose not to translate it because it didn't
want to upset the girls, the eldest of who of
whom was twelve. From that point on, I'm sorry to
say I was inaccurate in my translations of anything she said.

(05:55):
At Mustafa told The Independent it was more like, how
do I get these girls away from this devil? Yeah?
So that's but that shows two things. One a horrific
sort of coldness around children that have been three children,

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the oldest who was twelve, who've been caught up in
a bombing by air strikes. And she's saying that basically,
yeah she will. I mean it comes across as trying
to protect either Syria or Russia, doesn't it. Essentially she
also was.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Buying Russian propaganda about Syria.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, yeah, I mean that. But what was interesting was
that was the sort of that was the line in
the conspiratorial world as well, wasn't it that like the
white hats, Remember they were going around faking bombings and
there was no chemical attack by by a sad on
his own people. There were no air strikes when Russia

(06:58):
got involved, Apparently they were killing ISIS and all of this,
when actually it looks like a lot of the sort
of ISIS generals just happened to be former Russian former
in inverted comma, Russian generals that defected suddenly found Islam
and decided to lead these these these organizations very strange.

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But also in twenty fifteen, when Russia entered the Syrian
War on the side of the dictator of Sad, gathered
express support for the move, even as the civilian Dholt
told from Moscow's devastating air strikes grew into thousands. She
wrote on Twitter at the time, al Qaeda attacked US
on nine to eleven and must be defeated. Obama won't

(07:46):
bomb them in Syria, Putin did hashtag never forget nine
to eleven. And the other thing is that it was
ISIS in Syria and our Nusra, and there were elements
of al Qaeda. It was primly ISIS and no.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
True, Well, I mean, it's probably they're probably confused because
ISIS came out of al Qaeda in Iraq. Well, yeah,
the group called al Kainda in Iraq, morphed into ISO
or and then that obviously gets referred to as is
so in a in a way, in a way, it
is still connected to al Qaeda. However, the heads of

(08:27):
al Qaeda at the time, I think I'm in also
worry at the time, said yeah, these people taking our
name in Iraq, they're insane. They've got nothing to do
with us.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
This is the point is basically it's it's complicated, and
you know, she's using shorthands and conspiracies and she's getting
it completely completely wrong as well. Basically so in regards
to Futine being some sort of liberating yeah, of course.
Charles Lister, a senior fellow at the Middle East Institute,

(09:03):
to testify twice in Syria to the House Foreign Affairs
Committee when Gavin was a member, spent years debunking her
various conspiracy theories about the war.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
He said he.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Constant, consistent denial of the Syrian regime's crimes is so
wildly fringed that her potential appointment as dn I is
genuinely alarming. Lister said her views appeared to be driven
by a strange fusion of America First isolation and a
belief in the value of autocratic and secular leaders in
confronting extremism. They included a suggestion that the Syrian rebels

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staged a false flag chemical weapons attack against esports as
to provoke Western intervention against a SAD, something the US
intelligence agencies she will soon lead.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Concluded was false.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
She also declined to call Asad a war criminal when pressed,
despite masses of evidence. So she even supported the idea
that not only was the chemical attack either a false
flag i e. Perpetuated by someone else or completely fake,
and that the perpetrators of this, other creators of this

(10:10):
scenario were the American government and the point of this
was to try and drag them into a war with Syria.
And yeah, this should not be she shouldn't really where
near the governments you really? Also, when Russia invaded Ukraine,
Gathered again defended Russian aggression. She said this war and

(10:31):
suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden and NATO
had simply if the Biden admin and NATO had simply
acknowledged Russia's legitimate security concerns, which is nonsense, which is
is basically this concept of NATO expansion, which is a
not a thing, be misses the entire point of what

(10:55):
NATO is for and see nothing to fucking do with Russia.
So it's really as straightforward as that. And we know
what piece is about because he fucking told Tucker Carlson.
He told Tucker Carlson, No, we want to take the
entirety of Ukraine. Did you see Ukraine as a legitimate country?

(11:19):
He said it was part of Russian territory. Wants to
take mold over Poland and as far as we're were,
he said all the former Soviet states, which is a lot.
So yeah, it's ridiculous, to be quite honest. Also, she
that was in twenty twenty two that she posted at

(11:41):
so that was really recently that she posted about the
legitimate security concerns, So again she's actively treating Kremlin propaganda.
She's also spoken the past about bio labs, which is
this idea that was put around that very simply it's
that there were labories that were an American run that were

(12:01):
in the Ukraine that were making pathogens that could destroy
the entire planet. Was he was COVID even tied into
at one point, I can't remember, to be quite honest,
But the longest short is that basically there's these sort
of nefarious places where they're making terrible diseases that will
bring down civilization, and that's why Russia went into to

(12:25):
shut these places down. But the problem with this is
is just bollocks.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Completely made up.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's totally one.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Way of putting it.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Now, Gavin's dad, Now, obviously these different ways of looking
at this, like, you know, you're not your parents by
any stretch of imagination, but it is notable that Gabbard's
father founded an organization called the Alliance for Traditional Marriage.

(12:56):
Can you guess what they were opposed to? You're right,
it was quickly Las Vegas marriages. They thought they should
always be in a church. They were even violently opposed
to registry officers, and you know, sent threatening letters to
register officers. Wasn't that it was gay people, wasn't it?

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They basically were trying to help pass the Constitutional Amendment
in nineteen ninety eight, which gave the Hawaii state legislature
how to reserve marriage to opposite sex couples. So essentially
this was trying to stop same sex marriage. Now, she's

(13:40):
expressed similar sorts of views, but to be fair to her,
in January twenty nineteen, apparently she posted a video apologizing
for many of her past views, and she said, in
my past, I've said and believed things that were wrong,
and worse, they were hurtful to people in the LGBTQ
community and their loved ones. However, she also pointed out

(14:04):
in the video that she repeatedly voted in Congress to
protect gay rights and this this was this, this was
a few years ago. But basically she started receiving more
recently criticism from like trans rights organizations because she was

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she joined a Republican representative called Mark Wayne Munnin specifically
going into this title title what was it called the
title one X of Protections for Female Athletes. It might
be called Title nine actually I don't know whether that's
whether they're using those romannums or what, but basically it's

(14:50):
protections for female athletes based on biological sex. So it's
one of these things to stop trans athletes from compeating
in in athletic tournaments or anything. Really, and it's this
is the thing. It's all of the we've talked a
bit more about this at length and our cultural Marxism thing,

(15:12):
but it's really one of these things where it's a
bit of a stormy teat and it's just been used
as a political football. But Untilsie Gabbard was originally a Democrat,
but nobody really believed that. Like I think a lot
of the time people sort of like, oh, I see
what she's doing. She's doing a Dave Rubin? Was it

(15:34):
Dave Rubin?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Who was?

Speaker 3 (15:36):
I was left wing and the left wing left me
and now I realized that there was far more money
in being a dickhead.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Loads of them do this. Why I left the left.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Garevin McGinnis, didn't he do a similar thing?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Claim to do it?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Or was he always right wing? I know he was
involved in vice, but not the prostitute. I mean the magazine.
It might have been involved in prostitution, but I don't
know anything about that. So but yeah, anyway, but after
she switched party, she started saying, well, this was at

(16:17):
the twenty twenty three Conservative Political Action Conference as SEAPAC.
She said that the LGBTQ plus community was trying to
gain acceptance for pedophiles.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Of course, yeah, yeah, Ironically, Matt Gates, who was pretty
recently accused of having sex for paying to have sex
with a seventeen year old, was probably in the building anyway.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
She's also got ties to a bloke called Chris Butler,
and he is the leader of a group called the
Science of Identity Foundation, who has he's he's adopted the
name Sidar's war a Pana, Oh God, Sidar's war a Fanado.

(17:08):
He's a twap like he's a twap. Like we can
just say that sids wore you Panada whatever. Anyway, So
this foundation, it's this like secretive offshoot of the Harry
Christian movement, and it's basically vehemently opposed same sex relationships
and abortion, and it's also deep please suspicious of Islam.

(17:31):
And her closeness to this guy uh was reported by
The New York Times. Basically apparently both of her parents
were deeply emeshed in Butler's movement, and she went to
a boarding school in the Philippines that was operated by

(17:51):
Butler when she was a teenager. It was like a
sort of quasi quasi religious boarding school, and Butler himself
has a long history of espousing anti gay rhetoric. In
twenty seventeen, Gabbard participated in a week long junk in Syria,
which was embroidered a long running civil war at the time.

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According to her she visited refugees, Syrian opposition leaders, widows
and family members of Syrians fighting alongside groups like Al
Kayedir and Syrians alied with the Ache regime. But she
also secretly met with the Syrian dictator A Basha al
as Sad. And this is a time when it was suspected,

(18:37):
I don't know if it was known at the time,
it was suspected that he'd been peoploying chemical weapons. It
was strongly believed that it was him. She also received
hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations from supporters of
sang Parivar, which is a network of religious, political, paramilitary,
and student groups that subscribed to the Hindu supremacist solutionary

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ideology known as Hindu Hindu Hindu Tavar. And that was
reported by the Intercept. Hindu supremacists and known for their
hostility to Islam, particularly in India, where Muslims constitute a
significant and persecuted minority. So we're starting to see a
bit of a pattern here basically, like it's, uh, yeah,

(19:26):
it's it's slightly concerning, isn't it. It makes you wonder
what the hell is going on? Like it's this is
not really a person that should be considered for such
a role. But she was confirmed as the head of
the national of the National Intelligence Bureau or whatever, the
head of National Intelligence. It's, uh, it boggles the mind,

(19:48):
doesn't it. But I'll say you else boggles the mind.
Fucking Julia Hartley Brewer was only bloody right about something.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
No, no, I know, I know, well, like they said,
stuck clucks right twice a day, absolutely, like you.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Know, but like it's but she's usually less used than
a stock club. Like now, to be fair, she was
up against like an even more despicable ship. So it
might be a bit like when they sort of lore
Godzilla into fighting like one of those giant math things

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or whatever, where it's the sort of lesser of two
evils and stuff like that. But fine, you know, as
that that Chap says in the film let Them Fight.
It was Richard Tice, Richard Tye. Yeah, Richard Tyres basically
went on on talk TV and he's been interviewed by

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Juliet and.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
He's back from Dubai as Yeah, he's back.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
You know, he's like he's slimming it that he had
some ideas that about the how to end the Russian
Ukraine war. Well, you know, he's following this concept for

(21:17):
peace that's being flown around and stuff like that, like
essentially said that, you know, the Ukraine should surrender, that
they should see all the territory and just like, you know, negotiate.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
That's pretty much what I thought he was going to say.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, there's a lot of this that's flying around right
basically saying that, well, you could easily end the war
right now by basically just saying giving up, by giving up, right, okay,
which is a little bit like saying, oh, the rape
was ended by her signing a consent form halfway through.

(21:52):
Like it doesn't work. It just doesn't work. And it's
really crazy that a lot of people don't see this.
Oh come on, like, you know, we've got to do that.
And the problem is essentially there's there's no incentive for
Russia to not do it again. Like if you just
basically go, all right, fine, it looks very much like

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he committed war crimes and stuff like that. But what
we'll do is we'll give you this significant territory and
all the natural mineral wealth and gas and et cetera
that's in those regions like and there'll be absolutely you know, consequences,
and it's like, okay, right, fine, what's to stop them
regrouping and doing it again?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's stupid? But next totally precisely.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like, you know, there's there's nothing to do. You know,
it would there would be alarmist but but there's nothing.
There would be nothing to stop that, really would there.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
That's the point.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, that's why like NATO will stick up for them,
and that's why EU will stick up for them hopefully.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah. Well, Tys basically reasoned that, well, most wars end
up with some sorts, some form of negotiation to try
and stop killing the people. And it's perfectly reasonable for
a new president coming in and say we've got to
try to stop killing people and the devastation and the
destruction and to see whether or not some form of
negotiation can work for everybody. But he did qualify this

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by saying it may not, so you know he's thought
it through. He's got a reasoned, broader perion on the subject, right,
And he was basically he was continued his defense of
Donald Trump, who was said similar things essentially, and there

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are form MP said, there's no point trying to pretend
that you can give weapons when we haven't got weapons.
You can't pretend you can give the money if we
haven't got the money. That's the reality, whether people like
it or not. At some point, somebody's got to have
the courage to say, we've got to stop killing people.
And Julia Harley Brewer played a bit for blinder. Actually

(24:03):
she's She asked which part of Britain that he would
be willing to give up during peace negotiations should the
UK be invaded in the future by Russia, and mister
Tys replied none at all, but he did qualify his
position again by explaining it's not us that's giving away.

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It's not us giving it away, it's Ukraine, which completely
missed the entire point of the hypothetical question. And also,
it doesn't make it worse. In fact, that makes it. Sorry,
that makes it worse. You're making a decision on their behalf, essentially,
or insisting that they make a decision that you've just

(24:45):
said that you would not do. The man is a prick.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
That's not news.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
No, that's not it. But anyway, Julia Harley Brewer j
she took issue with this response and fired back, you
know what, you don't you know what you don't do
in the negotiation, give the other side everything that they want.
That is literally what they've done. I thought reform cared
about national borders.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Oh damn it.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
But no. But but yeah, this this is this is great.
But this this video went pretty viral and it had
over a million views on Twitter, and basically a lot
of people were saying what.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I was saying.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
One one person wrote, I never thought I would write this,
but watch Julia Hartley Brewer absolutely shred Richard Tice over
the Ukraine. And another said, oh god, I can't believe
that I'm agreeing with one hundred percent here. And it's
so counter to particularly in America, countered to do their

(25:58):
traditional values, you know you stand grounds laws and stuff
like that. Using firearms for self defense and stuff like
that would be the microcosm to so the microcosms of
the macrocosm of a war, essentially, isn't it. And that's
why you can't frame it as a defensive war. And

(26:20):
you've got to skirt around the idea that Russia just
invaded for purely ideological or imperial reasons, that you have
to come up with some reason like the nonsense like
they were killing people. They were killing and shelling their
own own people, and so Russian speaking people were persecuting

(26:41):
Russian speaking Ukrainians and so we had to go in
and save them. It's not true. It's absolutely not true. Like, oh,
the Book of Massacre was like that was done by
the Ukrainians. It fucking wasn't. It's on film, Like I
watched the fabulous documentary by the New York Times the
other day. It's on YouTube for free. They collected all

(27:03):
the CCTV from around the village, and basically you're able
to just watch this war play out like in such
an incredibly affecting and raw way. It's it's fascinating to see.
But like, but this is this is the thing. Thankfully,

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a lot of people on Twitter seem to be quite sensible.
One person also added, if you listen to him twice,
he totally contradicts himself. He says, if it were us,
we wouldn't give anything away, but for the Ukraine it
would be good for them. The man can't even maintain
a coherent argument, which is which is absolutely true. And

(27:49):
you know that seems to be a little bit of
a running theme, particularly for members of Reform you'll never
guess what Rupert Low we know put reput though is.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
The is the very on X Yeah, let's his share
of the ad revenue.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Oh yeah, No, this is him and vying for leadership
of Reform, not officially obviously, but he's got Elon's backing,
and you know, watch this space. But you'll never guess
what he's got on his farm.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Immigrants, Well maybe.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Potentially.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
My answer is always immigrants, but.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
No, he's got something else, something that, given his views
on certain subjects, you wouldn't necessarily expect him to have immigrants. No, no,
it's not immigrants. Like one more guess.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Trans people, immigrants, immigrants.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, no, it's slightly less exotic than that. It's solar panels.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Oh wow, I was going to say winter rhymes, but
well yes, Reform as a party have basically said in
the past that they're a massive can't, that they don't work,
and that climate change is nonsense.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
But he installed these solar panels on his farm to
save money on energy bills.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Don't work?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Well, they his party also basically said that they want
to tax solar energy, and they claim that renewable energy
is actually more expensive than the fossil fuels, which is
strange that that he would have such a such a

(29:53):
set up on his farm basically but so obviously, the
party currently led by Nigel Farah has just been accused
of hypocrisy as Rupert Lowe also runs a company that
installs batteries for renewable projects, which has described solar energy
as a good way to reduce electricity bills. Now. On

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the same day, Reforms deputy leader Richard Tyres had described
renewable energy as a massive can't as the party had
announced plans to tax selar farms and band battery storage systems,
which it claims are dangerous, and Tis promised to scrap
net stupid zero, vied was he fucking three years old?

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Like that?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Net stupid zero? Like that is genuinely the quote.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Very trumpion, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, But again the same sort of same sort of
you know, Toddler esque synaptic response. But they'll only be
able to do that if they win the next general election,
which doesn't look like it likely. But a Labor spokesman
said Reform's energy plans have been exposed as a complete joke.

(31:11):
They want to surrender Britain's energy security, put up people's
energy bills and destroy jobs, whilst their own MPs apparently
continue to profit from Britain's fast growing renewable energy sector.
They want to deny the British people the opportunity to benefit,
and also the Liberal Democrats Environments spokespersus Tim Farron said,
if we could bow the National Grid from reform hypocrisy,

(31:34):
we'd be set for life. So the Order is basically
lining up to give them a bit of a kicking.
Tim Farron continued, this breath taking, this breathtaking nonsense is
a reminder that reform are not serious, not patriotic and
not on the side of British farmers. So yeah, bazing,

(31:57):
it just shows any shows that they lie, then they
have no principles and they don't really care. I mean,
you could make the argument that well, Richard Tye is
a completely different person, put lows and entitles to his views.
It's like fuck off, Like come on, Like the entire
party is on the platform of this anti woke, anti

(32:17):
climate change and as you know, as they say that
the leveraging taxes against these sorts of things, he's got
businesses doing it. You know why He's like do you
know why he knows that he's comfortable doing these businesses
because he knows that reform are never going to get
into power.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, he's never going to be accountable.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
No, that conflict of interest will never happen. Basically, so
he could just like it's more of a conflict of
interest to say for his public image, the public image.
But yeah, it is that this is just again and
again and again expose themselves to be just shifty ships basically,

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but and and in Epps and you know, often wrong,
just wrong and speaking of people who were inept and
often very wrong, and people who were just wrong in
the other sense of the word. Elon Musk, who has

(33:23):
changed his name back from Harry Balls to Elon Musk,
which is obviously much better being named after a character
in a Nazis book. Anyay, let's not got bogged down
with that, He tweeted out, writers, writers, the news organization

(33:46):
was literally paid by the federal government for large scale
social deception. That's literally what it says on the official
government documents and so and this went around a lot
of people were getting absolutely sort of freaked out about
this and like trying to figure out what it was.

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But nobody could quite figure out exactly what it was.
All they knew was that there was a nine point
one million dollar contract seemingly to Reuters that was to
work on large scale social deception. And so this sounds
very much like your sort of your brainwashing, your mind
controlled stuff like that, large scale social deception. Could it

(34:30):
have been for proper ganda around COVID? Could it have
been for proper ganda around the election trying to convince
people that that Biden was legitimately elected. Could it have
been maybe something around January sixth or something like that.
I mean sort of it was kind of sort of

(34:52):
kind of to do with all of those things, but
not in the way that it was presented, and nothing
to do with the news organization. Okay, you see, the
contract was awarded to Thompson Reuter's Special Services, which is

(35:13):
a company that provides what is known as data driven solutions,
and it does work for federal government, other clients, large businesses.
It works on defenses against social engineering, cyber attacks, and
things like doppelganger accounts and misinformation disinformation which used social

(35:37):
deception tactics to trick humans, phishing operations, the types of things.
So basically two things. One it wasn't Reuter as the
news agency. It was Thompson Reuters, which basically actually has
the same parent company as Router's news agent, but is

(35:59):
a completely different company. It does completely different things. And
the large scale social deception was basically tactics on the
Internet that used to trick and con people, and this
organization was paid to work on defenses against these these
sorts of things.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
So you're telling me they haven't done their research.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
They haven't. But according to Elon, that is literally what
it says on the official documents. Like it doesn't. It
doesn't fill you with a huge amount of confidence that
they know what they're doing, really does it. It's it's
it's frightening, to be quite honest. But you know, hey, ho,

(36:45):
so we now want to Valentine's Day, like you know,
love is in the air, bit romantic, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera, Maybe chocolates, et cetera. You know, a bit
of a cry. Then shout at yourself in the mirror
and explain that crying like that is why you're essentially unlovable.
Or however you want to spend the day, it's entirely

(37:05):
up to you. But one thing that you is not
usually associated with Valentine's Day is Holocaust denial. And yeah,

(37:27):
you see John By, he's very very very interesting on
the on the old Twitter, and he's sort of charting
what idiots are doing. And he's got this thing where
you're saying, today on Conspiracy X, this is what's happening.
And basically today on Conspiracy X, former journalists conspiracy theorist

(37:52):
Jackie Devoy promotes an anti Semite portraying Nazi Germany as
the victims of World War Two and blaming the Jews
for starting it, along with a documentary by a white
supremacist and Jackie bless her. She's first off, she says,
if you're waking seven and a half hours, tune into this.

(38:15):
And what she's promoting is Ken O'Keefe is going to
do a space on Twitter. Ken o'keef says, here's a
promo for my space about Dresden with clips from the
stunning film by Kyle Hunt, Hellstorm, Shocking Truth about World
War Two, which shatters the lies about the war declared

(38:35):
by Judea against Germany maybe because their leader outlawed usury,
which is absolutely not. And then Jackie basically because she
wants to be helpful. She points out the film that
Ken O'Keeffe refers to Health Storm. Of course, Wikipedia says
it's based on a conspiracy theory, so therefore it must

(38:59):
be true then, And so just to unpack a little bit,
Jackie Devoy is this sort of low level conspiracy theorist.
We've got a new name for people like her. We
came up with a Jackie dvoy le Lani, Matthew Letizier,
Calvin Robertson, Lawrence fox Any, John o'looney, all of these

(39:21):
people that are sort of peddling conspiracy shit.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, not all of them, Like I would say, I
take Calvin Robinson out of that, because he's a quasimodo.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Oh no, yeah, you're quite right. He's a quasimodo, which
is people that shift to the right and use the
church's sanctuary. Yes, so fair play, fav. But all the
others we're going to refer to them from here on
in as smart people. And we don't mean smart in
the essence of like intelligence. We mean smart like a
smart meter inasmuch as they're connected to the Internet. So

(39:55):
she's one of these smart people basically, And what does
hell Storm talk about and why is it connected to
and who is Ken O'Keefe. Ken O'Keefe is a former
activist nine to eleven Truth that got in to bother
with Richie Allen of all people wanting. He exposed Richie

(40:17):
basically exposed that he'd ran off with a load of
money that he'd he collected from a cause and basically
spent it all on himself and this suspiciously young lucky
woman in Thailand or one of those places. But he's
a carn man and he's drifted further than further towards

(40:37):
the right and has gone as far as to He
started off was getting involved with Palestine, and I think
he got beaten up trying to take trying to take
supplies to Gaza, and so for a long time he
was thought of was quite a hero until it was
exposed that he was stealing money from the causes that

(41:02):
he was promoting, and then basically started getting this sort
of pro Palestine, became anti Israel, became anti jew became
the dues of the source of all problems, and he's
promoted Holocaust in Ireland and various things like that. Hell

(41:26):
Storm is a film that basically suggests that the bombing
of Dresden was the worst and most brutal act of
World War two, and you've been lied to it about that,
and it is indicative that the Allies were more brutal
and more horrific than the Germans. And if they've lied

(41:49):
to you about that, what else have they lied to
you about? And it is often used as sort of
why I said holocaust did on it at the beginning
is because this is used as a sort of like
an introductory topic that will get people into the concept
that Germany was wronged and that if they that everything

(42:11):
is lies and that basically was Jews that started the war,
Jews that were responsible for the war, and everything has
been a cover up since since then. Now what happened? So, yeah, essentially, well,
I mean yeah, I mean Dresden was bombed. Basically what
happened was was Dresden was bombed and there were civilians,

(42:33):
you know, and it was there was a huge amount
of death that twenty five thousand people died there. But
and what what happened was essentially the only industry that
was that was open at the time was wartime industry.
And there were speeches by prominent members of the German

(42:56):
government at the time explaining this. The problem with Dresden
was is that basically there's a lot of factories in
a civilian area, but because of the because of this situation,
they were considered a legitimate target, they were considered legitimate target.
The premise is, or the concept is that this was

(43:16):
a war crime, and people will say that basically up
to a quarter of a million people died there. People
will say even up to a quarter of a million
civilians died there, and that there was no military targets
at all, and this certainly was a huge amount of
civilian death that that goes without saying. But this has

(43:39):
been twisted via this film and by various other things
in order in order to present the facts in a
way that isn't strictly accurate by any sterest of the imagination. Now, bizarrely,
where so where does this concept come from? This, this
idea that that Dresden was terrible and a war crime, well,

(43:59):
initially came from the Nazis, who obviously wanted to paint
the Allies in a poor life. But then it also
came from the Soviets as well, who basically, when they
wanted to paint themselves as liberating heroes. So they painted
the idea that these these places that were going into
were far more smashed up than they actually were. And

(44:21):
so they took the German propaganda and used it in
their own propaganda to say, well, look how much better
we're goan to be than that? But it also came
from Kurt Vonnegart. Now Kurt Vonnegert is an author, an
author I actually like. He wrote a book called slough
House five and apparently he's also very very left wing

(44:43):
and the fabulous, fabulous author. But in this book they
basically they missed represent the death toll. And ironically in
the book they quote David Irving. David Irving is the
the Holocaust denied that basically he was taken took a

(45:03):
devil livstat to court and was proven in court that
he was a Holocaust dier who wrote who I mean had?
He was a historian. He was involved in debunking the
Hitler diaries, and he's written biographies of Hitler and was
used to be considered a very very good historian, but

(45:25):
has got some deeply deeply racist personal views and started
to lie and omit facts in order to paint a
better picture of Hitler, and he used to say that
he used to deny the Holocaust or say that Hitler
had nothing to do with the Holocaust. The last time

(45:46):
I saw him, he said he admitted that five and
a half million Jews had died, but most of this
was done through Ryan hard Camp's not gasings and shootings.
And I think he still maintains that Hitler had had
little knowledge of it. But anyway, that this is some
of the things. But some of the things that they

(46:07):
say is that the Royal Air Force used white phosphorus,
which they didn't have at the time. It's just not
a thing. They also say that there were low flying
planes that were strafing and killing civilians with machine guns,
which is not true. It's not really that different from
bombing of other German cities during the war, and Dresden wasn't.

(46:31):
It wasn't, to use the vernacular, the term innocent, because
they were legitimate military targets there. Basically, the attack was
not the one with the most victims, which is basically
what some people say, either as a percentage of the population,
a percentage of civilians, or as absolute numbers. The actual

(46:53):
number that died was twenty five thousand, and for example,
the bombings of Hamburg, they killed forty thousand people, so
this there was other bombings that actually killed more people.
Obviously all these things are horrific, but basically the thing
was was used as propaganda. The other people have said

(47:14):
that the bombing took place after the Germans had surrendered,
but it didn't. It took place a couple of months before.
So uh so, yeah, but for some reason Jackie Devoy
decided that that was the thing to post on Valentine's
Day because you know whatever, But yeah, it it basically

(47:40):
is born out of contrarians a lot of it, isn't it.
It's like, well if they say this, I mean, she
literally says it. Wikipedia says this is a conspiracy theory,
so it must be true. I guarantee should never even
think to go and go why does Wikipedia think it's
a conspiracy theory and then and then test this saying
Wikipedia might be wrong, Like but she's just never going

(48:01):
to test it. And that was the thing I was
remembering back okay, when I was into it and I
was telling them about how the Rothschild family owned the
Bank of England, and this guy I was working with,
this went on the Bank of England website, and there's
a bit basically like an faq. One of the faques
is like, is the Bank of England known by the

(48:23):
rothschild No it's not, and explains to it is owned
by and how the Rothschilds have got really nothing to
do with it at all. And I remember vividly going, well,
of course they're going to put that on the website.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Yeah, exactly, that's normally the go to, isn't it. What
of course they're going to say that.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
They're not going to admit it, are they? Like, you know,
but yeah, it's a shame really basically.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
They'll only admit it through signs and symbols.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
And you know, it's yeah kind of but it like
it's uh, it's down to you don't want to test
those things because as I said at the time, the
conspiracy they is probably giving you a degree of identity
and stuff like that, and like, you know, this isn't criticism,

(49:13):
but like this, you're not secure enough to really test
those premises. You think you are, but you're not. And
another thing that is desperately desperately insecure is the Day's website.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Is it still on the you're blocked NOSA it's back up.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Apparently, however, it is based on a database that could
be edited by absolutely anybody that knows knows out of
code essentially.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
So grows for the win.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Apparently. According to report via an outlet called four zero
four Media, it reported that the website is based on
database could be edited by anyone. Is said that two
separate people found of vulnerability. One of the two people
who reported the vulnerability themselves added at least two databased
entries that are visible on the live site. The entries

(50:13):
on the gov site say this is a joke of
a dark goov site and in capital letters, these experts
left their database open. So apparently Dozes's website is built
on something that it's called a cloud fare pages and
it's not currently hosted by government servers. Four or four

(50:36):
media said the database that is pulling form can be
and has been written to by third parties and will
show up on the live website. It feels like it
was completely slapped together. One of the coders who spotted
the vulnerabilities said tons of errors and details leaked in
the web pages in the page source code. Rather than
having a physical server or even something like Amazon Web servers.

(50:59):
They're deploying using cloud fair pages which support custom domains
the second coder. This is was noticed by the second coder, So,
I mean, I know they're trying to be efficient, but
there are certain things that maybe you ought to potentially
put more effort into. It doesn't, it doesn't. It doesn't

(51:24):
really bode well or fill you with confidence that these
tech bro experts who were fucking around with Social Security, medicare,
the Treasury and all sorts of things have made such
a basic error on their website. I mean, you could
make the argument, I'm sure those muskrat geniuses they're not
the people who made the website. No, but but come on,

(51:47):
at some point, somebody's got to have some accountability and responsibility, right,
Who the fuck is it? Because it's it's it's getting
a bit embarrassing, So he've got honest But speaking of
embarrassing reform, this is marvelous. You'll love this. A reformed

(52:15):
counselor posted a picture of himself apparently opening a new supermarket.
You know, they turn up and cut the ribbon and
blah blah bar and open it and they're like a
minor celebrity. He posted himself. He was a guy called
David Thomas, right, post pictures of himself cutting a ribbon

(52:39):
outside the opening of this new store, and he put
on on twitterly that he'd officially opened this new Little
in Cowan brand and he was posing alongside store workers
and two other reform counselors. Book there was there were

(53:00):
was a bit of a well, I mean, it's difficult
to say like because Little they basically said that no
ribbon cutting had taken place, there'd been no formal invitations
and it wasn't a new store. And so Thomas deleted
the post, but he said that that Little's complaint was

(53:23):
absolute nonsense, and he said that they just didn't want
to be associated with his party. And he'd been invited
there by a tour Fine Council official, so he'd posted
on his on his Twitter absolutely thrilled the honor of
officially opening the studying futuristic new Little Store in Gumbran

(53:45):
today And he posted a picture of him holding these
large red scissors and he's there with two other reform counselors, right,
Jason and Connel and Alan Slay, And then there's some
pictures of him walking around the store. But Little said, well,
our store openings are often attended by local officials in

(54:07):
their capacity as elected community representatives. We're non partisan businesses
and they do not affiliate with any political party. On
this occasion, no formal invitations were issued. There was no
official ribbon cutting at a corn Brown store opening. Sorry,
so it was a new store, but the supermarket said
that the podcasts were taken spontaneously after the store had

(54:27):
already opened to customers.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
He just turned up.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
With who's bought the scissors?

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Like he brought the photographers, he brought off it to making.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Themselves look amazing.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
That's what it would appear like. Or at the last minute,
Little of God, Jesus Christ, No, we can't do that.
Who the hell arranged this? Either way, it's absolutely hilarious basically.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
So we're just going to Did it come out that
it was a practical joke.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Maybe, I don't know, I've not heard.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
A YouTuber was pulling a prank.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I'd love it to be that. We'd have to go
back and look now, Oh yeah, no, I'll keep an
eye out for it. But no, So this man was
furious and he did. He ended up taking all the
posts down and stuff like that. So it would appear
that it wasn't an official thing that.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
I loved that. That was good.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
But but yeah, so anyway, elon Musko's website, it post
classified material.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
On it.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
So this this this page that can already be accessed
by third passes if you know how to code well enough.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Accidentally, he did say he was going to make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
He also did say that it was going to be transparent.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
That was.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I think this is taking a pinch too far. Ba.
Apparently the database provides details on the National Reconnaissance Office,
the federal agency that designs, builds, and maintains US intelligence satellites.
Not only are ro's budgets and a headcounts classified, but
the prospect of Musk text team meddling insensitive personal information
is setting off alarms for some in the intelligence community.

(56:24):
This was supported by the Hoffington Post. Those just posted
secret NOFAUN info on their website about intelligency community headcounts.
So currently people are scrambling to check if their info
has been accessed, said one Defense Intelligence Agency employee, who
requested anonymity to avoid retaliation from senior leaders. That's ironic.

(56:46):
He doesn't want his boss to know who he is.
But he's now probably known by fucking Russia. Right well, No,
FAUN stands for not releasable to foreign nationals, meaning information
this category can't be shared with any foreign governments, international organizations,
or foreign nationals without specific authorizations. But they published it

(57:10):
on the DOAGS website. Whether that's probably that might.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Well be a crime, you know, I mean, don't get
me wrong, entertaining for a second the idea that any
consequences will come to Elon like for anything, like except
you know, in his own head and soul like but.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
But but yeah, I was gonna say in his heart.
But I don't think he's got one. I think he
actively tried to get it replaced with something similar to
like like Tony Starr. No, I wouldn't be at all surprised,
but but yeah, so you know, it's fucking shallows. This

(57:50):
is an absolute shit show. They're just more and more
embarrassing and just lies and bluster and bullshit. And speaking
of lies and bluster and bullshit, Donald Trump bans COVID vaccines,
except he doesn't reports. This is amazing because apparently, with

(58:14):
the sweep of a pen with this executive order, COVID
vaccines effectively banned everywhere, absolutely everywhere, which spoilers is remotely
close to being true. Right, So what is true is
that President Donald Trump signed an executive order prohibiting federal

(58:36):
funds from going to K twelve schools and universities that
require COVID nine vaccinations. Right, so from the start, he's
not banning them. He's saying that if you require a
COVID vaccination for this school, we're not going to give
you federal funding. He's not saying that you don't you

(59:01):
can't have them, is saying that if you require them,
we're not going to give you money. So the order
signed by Trump and the Oval Office is structured Department
of Education and Health and Human Services to issue guidelines
to comply with the order and create plans to end
coercive COVID nine vaccine mandates. And that he was televised

(59:21):
when he did this, and it's that solves the problem.
And Alex Jones basically like, was, Ah, you thought it
was astonishing. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. However, the
order will likely have very minimal impact because currently no
states require COVID nineteen vaccinations for students at K twelve

(59:45):
public schools and at least twenty one states have already
passed laws banning vaccine mandates. So there's no states are
banning require this. But what about the schools, because maybe
maybe there are these schools that are doing it, and

(01:00:08):
you know, they don't want their funding to be taken away.
This fifteen fifteen. All colleges all private, so they get
funding from the students. They're all private, and basically they
require COVID vaccination shots and that's it. Fifteen private institutions.

(01:00:31):
You know, I thought this was a free market. Blah
blah blah blah. Let people. You know, businesses can do
what they want. They had the right to do what
they want. That school wants to do that, they can
do it. So yeah, so Trump signed this executive order
which will affect absolutely no schools at all. So you know,

(01:00:51):
I mean he's right in a way that did solve
the problem, but in a way in a very abstract way.
But yeah, it's uh, it's it's it's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. Hey,
how that was Valentine's Day. So we're now on to

(01:01:14):
February the fifteenth, and everyone's favorite romantic Jackie Devoy has
got another message looks like I was right about this too.
A new vaccine for AIDS, well, I never. We already
have a JAB that's causing HIV, though, so why not

(01:01:37):
go the whole hog and have one that gives people
AIDS too? As I keep saying, the depopular the depopulation
agenda is well underway. Another interesting point is they've instantly
jumped from reporting about HIV to shoving AIDS in the headlines,
and there's never been any evidence that the two are

(01:02:02):
oh Christ on a bike, right, Okay, So let's uh,
she seems to imply that a vaccine for AIDS would
give you AIDS, which is not the point of a vaccine. Like, however, right,

(01:02:24):
because that's not in her defense, that's not quite as
stupid as it sounds. It's monumentally stupid, but it's not
quite as stupid as it sounds. Right, Okay, the levels, well,
I mean, I get what what do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
You mean like a flu vaccine gives you the flu? No,
it's because because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
She thinks that the COVID vaccine gives you HIV and
vades like and I'll come on to why she thinks
that in a minute, because it's it's mentioned in the
article that she's actually quite tweeting. But she she and
a lot of the conspiracy people think that the COVID
vaccine gives you vaccine autoimmune disease right or vades. And

(01:03:07):
this is due to a couple of things that will
come on too, But basically she thinks that if that's
what this vaccine does, this other vaccine it's just another
trojan horse to get these depopulation drugs in, because that
was the point. Apparently they're killing people with midaslam in
the hospital and then with vaccines. I mean, the population

(01:03:28):
steadily rising, obviously, but that doesn't that doesn't matter, like
that is apparently what this is supposed to do. And ventilators, yes, exactly.
Another interesting point. They've instantly jumped from reporting about HIV
to shoving age in the headlines. And I'm sure some
of our astute listeners were like, hang on, I know

(01:03:49):
why that is. But Jackie, she's way ahead of you
because she's pointed out that there's never been any evidence
that the two are linked, despite the fact that there's
extensive evidence that the two are linked. So this is
this is where her argument falls down. And we spoke
about this earlier Peter Deisberg and various other people like
at the time Carrie Mullis wanted to deny that HIV

(01:04:14):
caused AIDS for whatever reason, and it's bullshit, like it's
it's it's incredibly well documented. And you know, if you
don't believe that, there are certain experiments that you can
do quite easily to test test your metal on that one.
Shall we say, like there was a guy that actually

(01:04:36):
injected himself seemingly injected himself with HIV and he didn't
develop AIDS, but that was because he died very shortly afterwards,
so that that one is inconclusive at best, shall we say,
like mm hmm. But so she's talking about this tweet,

(01:04:57):
she's quote tweeting UK column You K column is a
daily news thing is by Chapel, Brian Gerrish and sometimes
with the cheer Patrick Henningson. They're big sort of anti vaxxes,
big anti COVID. They were very very against the EU,
they're very.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Pro Russian.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
And they put out HIV is back in the headlines again,
even with the Prime Minister pulling a publicity stunt by
hating it by taking a HIV test for the media,
which UK column News covered on the eleventh of February,
claims of a new variant of HIV, the return of
AIDS and this and of course another new vaccine, And

(01:05:39):
so UK column is actually talking about a story that's
in twenty first century Wyre twenty first century wire is
an online sort of written word, whereas a UK column
is like a news show, and Patrick Henningson is involved
in both of them and in the story it states.
In the past few days the topic of HIV AIDS

(01:06:00):
has been thrust back into the spotlight. On the twenty
seventh of January, it was announced that Maderna is launching
clinical trials of a new HIV vaccine using mRNA technology.
A few days later, on the third of February, Oxford
University researchers published a study in the journal Science claiming
discovery of the VB variant of HIV and describing it

(01:06:24):
as highly virulent. And then they go on to basically
talk about Vades, and they mentioned and this is where
this came from. Basically, Vades was thought up with a
guy called Luke Montagnier who was a former Noble Prize winner,

(01:06:45):
and I think he was religious as well. For whatever reason,
he came up with this mad shit that basically anyone
that takes the COVID vaccine will develop AIDS. But did
he originally say that you'd get AIDS from COVID. I
can't remember, but it's been Basically the idea was put
forward for him that this vaccine, it must be vaccine

(01:07:06):
because it's vaccine AIDS, so it must be the vaccine.
But also it came from this study that people refer to,
which is known as the Indian study that came out
in twenty twenty. And what happened was this study came
out and then was really quickly taken off the market.
It never even got to peer review, okay, and people

(01:07:27):
say that this is an indication that it was smothered
or what's the word I'm looking for, censored or stifle Basically,
so this study is called the Uncanny Similarity of Unique
inserts in the twenty nineteen NKOV spike protein to HIV one,
GP one twenty and GAG and the paper claimed to

(01:07:50):
find similarities between the new coronavirus and HIV, which is
the virus that causes aides and the use of the
words uncanny in the title, with the abstract saying that
this is unlikely to be fortuitous. Led some people to
think that the authors were saying that this has somehow
been engineered by humans. And what it was was basically

(01:08:14):
like they got the sort of I think it's the
gename I don't understand. They got something which is like
the sort of ingredients of this virus and laid it out,
and they noticed that certain is that thing that goes
in numbers like CCTGGG blah blah blah, et cetera, et cetera.

(01:08:34):
And they noticed that some of these inserts matched some
inserts that could be taken directly from HIV, so like
a cctgg or something like that. Wow, it's in this virus,
and it's also in this virus. So they concluded that
that might not be by accident essentially, But in contrast,

(01:08:55):
the reaction for the scientific community was swift. In a
nutshell commentary on yo r x I V and Twitter
basically said that the author's method seemed brushed and the
findings were at most a coincidence, and essentially this never
actually got past the Beer Review. It was always just preprint. Now,
going back to what Oxford University said about this VV

(01:09:19):
variant of HIV and describing it as highly virulent. All
it said was basically, we've been monitoring what strains of
HIV are in this particular town in the Netherlands, and
this variant was spotted. But they went on to say
that he's probably been here since the nineties. It's just
that they've they've just spotted it. And it was really

(01:09:39):
just talking about how different the different strains of HIV
put saying that they're all treatable, and it was just
monitoring of the subject to to you know, to keep
on top of it essentially. So it's just, you know,
it all ties into this this ridiculous concept that they're
trying to deny it. COVID was dangerous trying to explain

(01:10:02):
that the vaccines are dangerous and they're trying to tie
everything in because everything has got to be a conspiracy,
isn't it, Like this is the thing, like nothing is
not connected. So somebody mentions HIV and HIV testing week,
there's got to be a deeper.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Meaning, like you know, and then you find them pure
star earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Well, this is the point. But then it's like, oh,
I'm noticing all these these related stories, like well, of
course you are that's how the media works. But if
you're in a sort of paranoid state of mind, you think, Okay,
I see what they're doing. The media is prescribing this
is that they're they're brainwashing it. And to a degree,
that's right, because they are making you aware of the topic.

(01:10:47):
But they're not making you aware of the topic because
there's some sort of big nefarious plot. They're making you
aware of the topic because the National fucking Testing Week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yeah, trying to make you feel a certain way. No,
just like talking about a subject, reporting on an event, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
And just trying to Basically, they're just trying to create
conflict and you know, get people arguing and get them
to believe their worldview.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
To be quite honest, they're pushing it in our face man,
speaking of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
People arguing and wanting people to believe their worldview. David
and Alex are still going at it. Alex posted breaking
MAGA trolling news. Trump forced US leftist press and politicians
to walk past his mug shot as they enter the
Oval Office, an ultimate troll move. And this was the

(01:11:46):
thing that happened, Like Trump has got his mug shark
framed in the Oval Office, and you have to walk
past it if you want to stand in front of
his desk, which is it's all right, it like it's
it's probably yeah, I'd probably do that. It's kind of

(01:12:09):
a cool.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I don't really give a ship to requiress, but you
know who does give a ship? David Ike. David I responded, Oh,
grow up, Alex, How old are you? Your Great Awakening
is the great a sleeping You just can't see it
given the trance that you're in now some people might

(01:12:32):
be thinking that sounds like children are You'd be right,
completely right, But at the same time, in the conspiracy world,
they're really really hard disses, like your Great Awakening is
the greatest sleeping in You just can't see what's going
on given the trance that you're in. That is that

(01:12:54):
is a pretty pretty pretty hardcore shut across the bell,
Isn't it? Like in your forum days, if somebody had
said that to you, that's beef, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
But I'm sorry, I wouldn't be thinking you are not
very creative.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Well, there is that. Well, absolutely it is crap, But
at the same time that's crap while it's getting your
black gloves and balaclava up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
But that is just David. Yeah, terrible and and this
is not going on many in many ways.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Absolutely, but this is not going unnoticed like that. He's
being very, very bitter. And now what's strange is Alex responds,
because and this actually says more more about Alex than
than it doesn't say what it might appear to say.
Alex responds, don't get your behavior, David. You constantly talk
about me but won't respond to public and private invitations

(01:13:55):
to all my show regardless. I think the commentary is
helpful to the largest debate and I will always love you. Now,
on the surface, it kind of like maybe Alex has
been the bigger man here. Maybe maybe he's like, you know,

(01:14:19):
he's just going, I don't understand that we could all
have difference of opinions and stuff like that. The way
I interpreted it, and this might just be me, is
that basically, like Alex realizes that there's not a lot
going on with him for Wars, he's backed himself into
a corner. So like David provides content, and this might

(01:14:40):
be interesting content because nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Is fucking and everything is content to Alex, Everything is
content to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
All these people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Absolutely I mean, one of the things that this highlights
is are basically it's all ego driven. It's it's all
completely ego driven. It's it's about getting attention and getting
people to tell you that you're clever and and that
you're right and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And

(01:15:13):
it's yeah, you know, these these people just want attention.
I mean, you know, the irony is not lost on
me that you know, we used to do that stuff
and we're doing this. If you're doing anything where you're
putting yourself out in the public, you've got to have
a degree of ego, and you've got to have a
degree of wanting to perform and like, you know, be
creative and do stuff like this. But again, it starts

(01:15:37):
to get and look desperate with with some of this,
doesn't it Because it's all that they've got, really, isn't
it so? Or it's it's certainly vitally vitally important to
them and potentially unhealthy ways. Anyway, later that day, Alex
not to be you know, he's in a good rood.

(01:15:59):
Here you tweet out rising up back on the street.
Did my time took my chances? Weren't the distance. Now
I'm back on my feet, just a man and his
will to survive. So many times it happens too fast.
You trade your passion for glory. Don't lose your grip

(01:16:19):
on the dreams of the past. You must fight just
to keep. And then I can't read the rest because
that's where it cuts off. But some of you might
have noticed that's the Eye of the Tiger. Why is
Alex posting the lyrics to Eye of the Tiger?

Speaker 7 (01:16:35):
Because it's in the gym, pumping up man sort of yeah,
kind of like someone called Ziro Foxtrot had tweeted out,
the evolution of Alex Jones is upon us, and it's
three pictures of Alex Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
One of him looking at total Baldwin as a as
an eighteen year old, one of him with his T
shirt over his head, yeah but for roperly flexing, one
with his T shirt over his head looking like a
big fat drunk, and then a more recent photo where
he's got his top off and he's looking kind of
bulky again. Like basically Dave labeled it, Alex won the

(01:17:17):
chiseled warrior of truth to Alex, to the cozy conspiracy theory,
to Alex three, and I think they've put something like
to Alex three, who looks maybe this is just because
he looks a bit like that, but looks a bit
like the fucking thing from Fantastic. I don't know whether
that's on purpose, but that's what he looks like. I

(01:17:39):
what did I put it as? Oh? Yeah, the dangerous
psychopath sad alcoholic, complete sellout. That was my take on
the three photos. But but yeah, So anyway, somebody called
art Candy, who's pretty entertaining on Twitter. She tweeated in response,

(01:17:59):
oh oh, zeen pick. And in case people don't know,
zempick is a weight lass drug that seems to have
incredibly effective responses. People literally just drop. The weight just
drops off of them, to the point with some people
like allegedly Ariana Grande and Kelly and Sharon Osborne, where

(01:18:24):
they've lost too much weight and are struggling to put
it back on. However, like Alex, there's an interesting other
side effect of a zem pick as well. It makes
you not want to drink, because when you do drink
on it, it really makes your hangovers ridiculous. But it

(01:18:44):
also seems to have some sort of effect where you
don't crave alcohol. Well, if we've not seen Alex doing
on screen for a good few weeks being been drunk,
he's not. He's not been pissed out of his mind
like interesting it is now our candy postulates the idea

(01:19:06):
that he might be on a zempie. Now, Alex, he's
not bothered by this, but he does respond to this
complete stranger on twit, and you know, he just calmly explains,
I don't know how many times I have to tell
ignorant people like you that zempic eats your muscles, and

(01:19:27):
by the way, your heart is the most important muscle.
I'm working out seven days a week, intermittent fasting and
taking a lot of great supplements. Again, in case your
feeble mind doesn't understand how biology works. My muscles have
got bigger, so I lost sixty pounds in the last
six months. Olympic doesn't do that, And I think he

(01:19:49):
means a zempi. But and that's classic Alex, because I
love the way that he's got like lost in his
own thoughts and forgotten what he's talking that halfway through
eats your muscle, by the way, your heart is your
most important muscle. Just the fuck is that going to
do with Nithan? Is he implying that a zepick would

(01:20:11):
eat his heart? Or is he just remembered in a
moment of clarity be nice to one another. Is that
what he's saying? Like? And anyway, it's like he says
his muscles have got bigger once he's lost sixty pounds
in the last six months, and I, if you remember,
like I was a bitch to him. Basically he was

(01:20:32):
showing himself working out and I've said, we've been skipping
leg day Alex because weirdly, though his sort of top
seems to be getting slimmer but sort of more defined,
his legs don't appear to be growing. And say that
could be because he's skipping leg day, or it could
be because he's not really working out, he's taking drugs.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Who can say?

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Anyway, he pointed out that a zempick you can't you
can't grow muscles you on a pick. It's impossible. So
I went to a source that we know that Alex trusts.
I asked the robot, No, I don't know what that means.

(01:21:17):
Knowledge fight did it was an amazing podcast that everyone
should listen to. They shared this interview where Alex was
talking to Owen Shroyer about what was being censored on
on Twitter, and Owen and asked Groc and it had
said that Alex himself might be getting censored from other people,

(01:21:40):
and Alex had sort of childlike and sort of slightly
mournfully and like reverentally gone the robot. So he believes
that he's a robot, and he also believes that Grok
is the Fantom of all knowledge. So anyway, so I
asked the robot and then posted this under as a
response to his his his message. According to Grok, building

(01:22:02):
muscle whilst taking exempic involves strategic approaches to both diet
and exercise. Giving the medications effects on appetite and metabolism
appears to how you can optimize muscle growth. Dietary adjustments
high protein intake en sure you consume enough protein to
support muscle repair and growth, such as like lead meats, fish, eggs,

(01:22:23):
dairy and plant based options like lugumes and tofu. Balance
nutrition despite reduced appetite. It's vital to maintain a balanced diet. Hydration.
Prop Hydration supports function, muscle function and recovery. Aim for
at least eight to ten glasses of water daily supplements.
Consider supplements like wave protein if meals are challenging due

(01:22:44):
to naizero or appetite. Exercise routine resistance training. This is crucial.
Engage in strength training at least two to three times
a week focused on compound movements like squats, deadlifts, bench presses,
and roads which work multiple muscle groups simultaneously. For beginner's
full body, workouts with five to six exercises might be ideal.
Progressive overload, which is gragged in increasing the weight, reps

(01:23:07):
or intensity of your workouts. Limit cardio. Whilst cardio is
great for cardiovascular health, excessive cardio can lead to further
muscle loss due to the calorie deficit created by zempi.
Rest and recovery. Muscles need time to repair and grow,
and sure you get seven to nine hours of quality
sleeping nicely nightly, and listen to your body for science

(01:23:28):
of overtraining. So Alex said that he was doing supplements,
Alex said that he was training all the time. And
Alex said that he's intimately fasting, which means that he
is eating at times and also he doesn't appear to
be doing that much cardio. So according to Greek he
could actually grow muscle whilce reducing his body fat on

(01:23:50):
a zempi. And that looks from an untrained eye, that
looks to me what he appears to be doing. So yeah,
who knows. But it's always just nice to wind Alex up.
But you know what isn't nice nice? Well?

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
Well, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure we just said the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
I think we did. Yeah, you see, Donald Trump tweeted out,
he who saves his country does not violate any law,
which I don't think anyone who's not a fucking idiot
is needs explaining. Is an incredibly dangerous thing to say,
he who saves his country does not violate any law,

(01:24:35):
which is a bit like saying the ends justify the means.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Or hold on, did a convicted felon just say that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
He did.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Like it's not his own words, to be fair, it
is a quote. It's a quote from Napoleon, you know,
the dictator AnyWho. Trump tweeted this out, and this is
in a response to all the sort of lawsuits that
are basically saying you're not a king either fucking president.

(01:25:06):
You have to you know, work within the boundaries of
the law, which we've already discussed Elon's not happy about.
So Elon tweets something that, on the surface might just
be seen as a very enthusiastic support and endorsement of
Donald Trump's message, but to those in the know, this

(01:25:30):
seemed to be something a little bit more sinister, particularly
when talking about a president of the United States essentially
being above the law. He tweeted a series of American flags. Fine,
he tweeted fourteen flags.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
Okay, Now for.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
People that aren't getting that, there's an expression called the
fourteen words.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Yeah, but that's where I was thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Which is by a white supposes called David Lane. It's
something along the lines of we must secure the future
for the white race and children. I don't know it
because I'm not a Nazi, but this is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Just as conspiracists.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Are you reading too much into the number fourteen here
or are you gonna think?

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Well, a lot of well, I mean a.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
Lot of people did read the same thing into it
and pointed out that Elon, if this is just another
coincidence and another example of his awkward, autistic nature, then
it isn't It is half a fucking coincidence that he's
basically dog whistling an internet meme and he knows about that.

(01:26:48):
He knows about Pepe, he knows about uh Peter Sweden,
and he knows about certain Nazi tropes and stuff online.
Like he could have been only clearer if he did
fourteen and then he'd done under second tweet with eighty

(01:27:09):
eight legs on there. It's one of these things where
it's like he's taking the fucking piss. Come on, We've
just had Steve Bannon doing a Nazi salute, him doing
a Nazi salute, Gravid Robinson less successfully doing a Nazi salute,
and it's just yeah, like, even if it is just

(01:27:31):
him cutted out of his tits, his substantial flabby white
tits in the middle of the night, going oh, I
really should do this. That's not appropriate for somebody who
is so high up in the American government. It's not
appropriate for anybody that's the CEO of any company. It's

(01:27:52):
not really appropriate for an adult like, but yet Elon
musk Is is doing this and in a final one
of those things where it's like, Jesus fucking Christ, what

(01:28:12):
timeline are we on? Dom Luca Breaker of narratives gets
invited to the fucking White House. Now. In case people
don't know who dom Luca is, He's a sort of
crazy conspiracy theorists, well into all of the stupid ones.

(01:28:32):
He's basically Pizzagate. Ironically, he's best known for being kicked
off but then allowed back onto Twitter for posting child pornography,
which was left up online for a significant amount of time.
He felt the need to show this child pornography as
proof that child pornography exists, was my understanding of his

(01:28:55):
reasoning behind this. The guys, and he tweets out, I
got invited to the White House. This is so hard
to believe. I'm a loss of words. Many people are.
None of this would be possible without my amazing family.
By family, I mean my audience. You have all brought

(01:29:16):
me so far. I intend to continue to make all
of you proud. There are so many black conservatives that
have helped change the narrative that deserves an invite. I
hope to make their names known. Oh yes, sorry. In
case people don't know, he's a gentleman of color, and
he's one of these people that sort of is he
very He's a very anti black lives matter, isn't he

(01:29:37):
and stuff like, yeah, he's just he's one of these.
It can't be racist if I say it, it's like, well,
yes you can, because you don't dictate race. What is
considered racism like, and that goes to it's a majority
rules one on that one, to be quite honest, and

(01:29:58):
even if like again no, by very definition, it doesn't
matter who's saying it. If you're using somebody's race as
a stereotypical way to define somebody or to assume something
about them, as it doesn't matter who does it. In
the same way, there's no way that he could be
a Nazi because he's gay. Of course they fucking can.

(01:30:19):
Of course they can. Anyway, he's got this fabulous. The
President requests the pleasure of your company as a reception
in honor of National Black History Month, to be held
at the White House on Thursday for every n tith
And so this is the state of affairs that we're

(01:30:42):
in at the minute, where dom Luca is a particularly wacky,
unpleasant conspiracy theorist that promoted ridiculous conspiracy theories and somehow
got his hands on child porn, has been invited to
the White House to celebrate Black History Months, National Black

(01:31:07):
History Months. It's a fucking slap in the face. It's
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
It's yeah, ridiculous is the word that I wanted to use.
I can't think of any other word.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
I mean, you know a bit more about Don Luca
that I did, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Yeah, I used to follow him quite a lot because
of like the what he was kind of pushing, which
was a lot of Pizzagate adjacent stuff, very q and on,
very Pizzagate and very obviously pro Trump because of like
the QAnon sort of stuff. Wayfair shit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
Yeah, all that kind of general.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
Really silly stuff, really absolutely silly stuff. And yeah, somehow
he's forenay good is is his way into the White House,
which is ridiculous because you know, you know, most people
would say, I mean, let's be honest, this makes easy
e turning up look positively like actually he was there

(01:32:14):
as a representative of a charity, not as a representative
of crazed conspiracy theories. Like you know, there are some
people that would say that this was it was a
bad idea. It is a poor representation of everything that
that that that all of these institutions, National Black History Months,
the White House, the presidency. All of these things stand

(01:32:38):
for that it cheapens these things that it encourages, but
bad behavior by bad actors who spread bullshit and lies
in order to make money, which is welcomed in the
environment that we currently fucking find ourselves like it, and

(01:33:01):
it's it's tragic and it's shit. But that's the world
according to some.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Yeah, I one or two, we've upset a few because
the theorists and far right people and yeah yeah, but
also in all serious just thank you. Thank you to
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And you know we'll continue to try and evolve and
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