The World According To Some (11)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So dear call it conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to some darcolic conspiracy with Brentley and Neil Sanders.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought
someone really should keep a record of this decline, so
that when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of
civilization they might be able to see where it all
went wrong.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
This is the world according to some, or as all the.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hepcats are calling it twat. We're on to February the sixteenth,
in the year of our Lord, the foul year of
our Lord, and if we remember, it's, you know, it's
pretty much normal. Donald Trump has decided that is tweeting

(01:01):
out Napoleon quotes, suggesting that he might be a dictator
above the law. Elon Musk's responding positively by tweeting out
fourteen American flags, which some had seen as a potential
dog whistle, being as much as it invokes the fourteen
words of David Lane, which is a white supersacist phrase

(01:23):
about retaining the white race. So it's not great, is it.
It's you know, it's all a bit a bit this topic.
And do you know who'd spotted it, who'd spotted this dystopia?
Like where others in his ill could failed to do so.

(01:47):
David Ike still got it basically. Obviously. Donald Trump had
tweeted out he who saves his country does not violate
any law, which is really sketchy, to be quite honest,
I don't know. It's the sort of thing that somebody
that might shoot up a building would have tattooed across

(02:09):
their chest.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, like we said in the last episode, that's coming
from a convicted felon.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, that's what that too, and conman and according to
certain courts, a rapist anyway, David I He actually points
out that this post, which calls for outright dictatorship without
checks and balances, has sixty million views and three hundred
and twenty thousand likes. As I post see how easy

(02:37):
dictatorship is when you see his control of human minds
to the extent that they cheer their own enslavement. This
is precisely what they did in Nazi Germany. And he
has a point in all fairness, like, I mean, that.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Is what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
The thing he did at nine to eleven where he
tried to ring in the lefties.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, yeah, of course he is. I mean, like you know,
everything that he does is about promoting his brand, and ultimately,
like you could even go so far as to say,
you know, he's always done that, I'm right about this,
and I'm right about this, and blah blah blah. He's
such a contraying that he'll even be a cond traying
within the conspiracy crowd a lot of the time. And

(03:22):
you know that he's obviously using this to try and
get some sort of attention and I don't know whatever
out of it, but but he does happen to be right.
Like so anyway, that that phrase, we keep saying that
it's a Napoleon phrase, and this basically Snopes pointed out

(03:47):
many people recognize the passage as a quote from Napoleon Bonaparte,
the first Emperor of France. It first appeared in Maxims
Maxims it pencies the Napoleon, which I'm pretty sure I
absolutely nailed the pronunciation of there by the French author
on a de Bullzac de Ballzac language No anyway. The book,

(04:12):
published in eighteen thirty eight, seventeen years after Napoleon's death
in exile, is a compilation of aphorisms Bullzac attributed to
France's former emperor. The author wrote in a letter to
Euilina Hanska, the woman who would become his wife, that
he's spent around seven years writing down in a kitchen
book each new and striking thought said by Napoleon. Indeed,

(04:32):
in his book Maximum ninety seven it is a French
cele cress Saa nivuila aquilis, which again I'm pretty sure
I nailed, which means apparently, he who saves the fatherland
violates note law. And this is one of those things
where it's not entirely clear whether it is actually Napoleon,
but it's one of these things that has attributed to Napoleon.

(04:57):
The context of why he said it is also entirely unclear.
It's basically goes off of balls act, and he did
seem to know what he was talking about. He spent
years researching the Napoleon's life. His sources included Napoleon's niece,
the Jitsy of Bonning Parts. But also the problem is

(05:20):
that Bullsack was an admirer of the emperor, and he
contributed to developing certain myths around the man. The longer
short of it is, though, that is not a sort
of quote that the president of the free world, of
the Free country of the United States should be saying
it has got dictatorial mora or trappings, shall we say,

(05:44):
But yeah, so one didn't see it that way. Alex
Jones strangely, strangely, Alex Jones said, this is weird. He
who saves his country does not violate any law. The
moronic left is trying to spin Trump's perfectly clear statement

(06:05):
as dictator talk. And yeah, like we'll go on a
bit more. We'll explain a little bit more as to
what Alex said just shortly, because he did actually do
a whole video about it. Although I mean spoilers, it's

(06:26):
not really much clearer what he thinks than that fairly
incoherent statement, to be quite honest.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
So what's your take on Trump saying that I'm with
David on this.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, absolutely, Like it's it's it's made me really reconsider
whether the lizards might be real. I mean, it's not.
It's one of these things where again you hope that
he doesn't mean it, and he's just a blustering bullshit artist,
which we know him to be, but he's also insane,
so it is very tricky. We might might be I

(07:00):
been a bit of a pickle with that somebody else
that's in a bit of a pickle, Elon Musk. Have
you ever heard of somebody called Ashley Saint Clair. No, No,
i'd not either. I've got no idea who she is.
Twenty six year old MAGA writer, apparently, and she revealed

(07:20):
on the sixteenth, Well, I'll just read it to you.
Five months ago, I welcomed a new baby into the world.
Elon Musk is the father. I have not previously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Elon's.
Elon's quest to repopulate the planet in his own image

(07:43):
is continuing. Apparently. She goes on to say, I've not
fully disclosed this to protect our child's privacy and safety,
but in recent days it has become clear that tabloid
media intends to do so regardless of the harm it
will cause. I intend to allow our child to grow

(08:03):
in a normal and safe environment, and for that reason
I asked that the media on our child's privacy and
refrain from invasive reporting. Yeah. I mean that's a little suspicious,
isn't it. It's one of those things where that seems
to be a sort of like, ah, it's totally absolutely.
I didn't want to do this, obviously, get all the

(08:24):
attention and stuff like that. But I was absolutely backed
into a corner because the media, we're going to do stuff.
I mean, maybe she has another reason to do who
can say like, But she certainly changed her tune with
the media because she decided to do an interview with

(08:45):
the New York Post and basically, in this she gave
a bit of the background as to how she managed
to meet Elon Musk. Apparently Musk slid into her DMS,
which is youth speak, isn't it for messaging people? And

(09:06):
this was in May twenty twenty three, and she told
The New York Post that she met most for the
first time in San Francisco when she was twenty four,
so that'd be a couple of years ago, and their
romance grew from there. Hang on, how was these kids
with Grimes? Was he still with Grimes? Was he crying
over Amanda Herd at that point? I don't know. Anyway,

(09:28):
it doesn't matter. It's very hard to understate how much
I'm processing right now. I'm sad that my hand was
forced by the media to do this now, but there's
also a sense of relief because I've been forced to
live in secrecy for almost a year of my life.
I cannot explain the kind of primary pain you feel
as a mother and you're talking to people and they

(09:49):
ask you about the one kid, and you have to
lie and carry this burden in a secret, You have
to lie to people you love. So saint clear when
I to say that she hasn't communicated with Musk since
posting the statement, which was not flatted with the community. No,
it's warm viewers of misinformation. So Claire said she notified

(10:09):
his team that she'd be writing about her claims and
X on Friday before she hit scent. So I mean
that that this is the thing. She claims that she
told most that she was going to to do this,
and implying at this point that you know, it's just fine.

(10:30):
We've just got a relationship. She had a kid with
the most richest man on the planet. It's just fine.
It's just what we do nowadays, sliding into d ms,
having kids, billionaires, trying to take over Mars. It's just,
you know, it's it's it's on fleek, isn't it. Absolutely
it's lit. Somebody jumped to anyway, So yolo, someone jumped to.

(11:06):
Someone jumped to Elon Musk's defense, it's not someone that
you entirely want to jump to your defense is potentially
somebody you want to jump into a crevass. But anyway,
somebody jumps to Elon Musk's defense. Do you want to
have a guess? This is a bit of a bit

(11:28):
of a little bit of a.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Sort of.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Was residing in the Where Are They Now file, and
you know, has tried various things, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
After Brian protecting him from playing video games, his mum
coming out and saying, I can't.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Even think it's it's a bit it's a bit left field,
but absolutely more right wing. It's Milo Janapopolis Yanapolis or
what his name is, Yeah, the far right activist, and
he basically came to Elon's defense and basically he claimed

(12:16):
that this girl, Saint Clair, had been in a plot
to ensnare Musk, and it's well, I mean, I don't know,
Like there's some old tweets from twenty twenty basically saying
that this is like, oh I need to go and
get Elon to marry me. Oh I need to get

(12:38):
pregnant by Elon blah blah blah blahs or stuff like that.
But it's one of those things where it's like.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
And that's why he slid into her DMS. It was
like easy, yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
You have you have a need and a want. I
have the opportunity to give it to you.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, this is the thing.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
But children, because he wants just he wants children.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well yeah, well this is the thing. Like I mean,
at least twelve of Elon Musk's children were conceived via
IVF and so they know the right wing try and
per tray is this like top Shagger but it's all
a bit more sort of.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Rand.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Here's a cup of my like chilled love juice. Do
with it what you will like it's it's it's not Yeah,
he's no Russell Brand.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Is he like Shagger of the Year?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah? Two years yunning, two years running in the sun
like at the same time that he was, Yeah, accused divorce.
But so anyway, mine obviously keen to defend Elon Musk,
who I don't know he'd had any interesting to be
quite honest before this. But he decides that the best

(13:53):
way to discredit her is to post a picture of
her when I think he thought that she was sixteen,
but she claims that she was fifteen in the post
and this might give her an explanation as to why

(14:16):
why she decided to post announcing that she was Elon's
the mother of the Elon's latest love child. She posts
to Elon openly on Twitter, Elon, We've been trying to
communicate for the past several days and you've not responded.
When are you going to reply to us instead of
publicly responding to smears from an individual who just posted

(14:39):
photos of me in underwear at fifteen years old. So
potentially it would appear at this point that she might
have put the entire tweet out in the story in
the New York Post in order to get Elon's attention.

(15:00):
Why who can say? I mean, it may be that
we've just gone past Valentine's Day, she's just had a
baby with Elon Musk, and it doesn't sound like he
got in touch I you know, and people frown on
it when you do things like that, like you know,
use them as brood mares and stuff like. It's it's

(15:23):
one of those things where treating treating women as sort
of receptacles to sire the future offspring of your empire.
I don't know, some some people it doesn't sit easy
with them. I I don't know, but so anyway, so

(15:44):
Marilo is back in in in the press and this guy, yeah, absolutely, congratulations.
And so this guy on Twitter, whose name is escaping
you right now, but I will try and reference to it,
was put out this fantastic thread of all the times

(16:05):
that Milo had done controversial shit, and I thought, well,
that's quite entertaining, isn't it. Anyway, So it turns out
that Milado Milo has defended pedophilia quite a few times.
Many of us might remember when he went on Joe
Rogan and he befriend He defended the older priest who

(16:25):
had essentially abused him as a child, and he said
that he was no big thing and he taught him
how to give great head and blah blah blah. And
he also tried to convince Joe Rogan on the shows like, oh,
come on, Joe, have you never seen a really a
fifteen year old girl and thought that she was really hot?
I've seen fifteen year old boys and thought they were

(16:46):
really hot or so words to that effect, And Joe said,
I did, yeah, when I was fifteen. On another podcast,
he said that the age of consent very much depends
on the maturity of the the person and that mature
thirteen year olds could consent, And on numerous other occasions

(17:07):
he's tried to explain that that age of consent is
a lot lower in other countries, and it all starts
to paint a bit of a bit of a sordid picture.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Really.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Also, when he was on Joe Rogan, he said that
he was on boat parties with a Hollywood director, which
was widely regarded to be Brian Singer, where he saw
very young twinks being applied with drugs and having sex
with older men, but he didn't want to say who
these people were because of discussion.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Anyway, So Hollywood director of the Usual Suspects, Brian Singer
has been accused of making young boys get naked of
set on an apt Pupil, which was a film that
he did. There was a lot of rumors flying around.
He was also accused of having sex parties sometimes on
boats with sex offender Mark Collins Rector, and so he

(18:08):
was also mentioned in the twenty fourteen film and Open Secret. Also,
the author of American Psycho Brett Easton Ellis accused Singer
of having sex with an underage boy, and several men
have accused singer of sexual assault and rape. Anyway, back
to Milo. You know Baked Alaska, that prap that used

(18:28):
to wear the sunglasses with the mullet, that is like
a far right influencer. He's that fucking awful song about
Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, I know, the guy, idiot, total total idiot. Wasn't
he yet? Like J six?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm pretty sure he was. I think he was. He
didn't He go into the office and there was that
lad that looked very much like Nick Fents, but but
actually wasn't.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Nick Fent's pretty sure. I was watching his stream. Yeah,
J sex when it was happening fair enough.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Did you know that he used to be Milo? You
know this as manager?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I didn't, basically, but basically he he accused Milo of
plying undraged boys with booz of drugs in a message,
a private message, he said, I don't know if you
guys know about the situation, but during Bino's tour, he
had to in inverted Comma's eighteen year old twinks sleeping

(19:23):
on it in his bed with him. I was in
the hotel and had to switch rooms because they were
literally getting drunk doing coke and falling around under the
covers and the documentary grew quit because that he refused
to stop giving them coke and alcohol, and they said
they couldn't film. That they looked extremely young, and I
suspect that they were actually younger than eighteen, but nonetheless,
they weren't even twenty one, and he was pumping them

(19:45):
up with alcohol and coke before having sex with him.
Six stuff. Also one thing that I didn't know at all.
Apparently Milo was allegedly a federal informant who spoke to
the FBI about his contacts. Well, he demanded three and
a half thousand dollars. Whether this was supplied or whether

(20:05):
he went through with it, but it seems like you
might have ratted on some of the people who attended
the Charlottesville rally. Oh, isn't it more weird? Apparently he
tried to hire someone to kill Baked Alaska's cats.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
What.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Apparently he tried to hire someone to kill Baked Alaska's cats,
presumably in a response to them falling out and Baked
Alaska's spreading rooms about him. He also tried to hire
another person to beat up Nick Fuentes and film it.
He apparently encouraged drug addicts to visit Nick's house and

(20:45):
to assault him and offered favors in return.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Maybe the cat things are a bit more excusable. Well, yeah,
you know, it swings aroundabouts.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well it depends actually know of all of those, I'll
be like, don't hurt the cat.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
No totally, but.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Right. There was a very interesting thing as well where
he recently had an argument on the Tim Poole Show.
He went onto the Tim Poole Show and he was
wearing glasses and I don't know whether he's got a
nerve problem or what. There was something strange about the
way he was talking. He was talking as if his
jaw was going a million miles an hour, and he
was somehow simultaneously had too much spit and not enough

(21:29):
spit in his mouth, if you know. You know. Anyway,
in this particular state, he was chatting with with Nick
wit Timpaule, and just out of nowhere, he decided that
he needed to criticize somebody else that he's decided that
he hates Dave Rubin, and he basically called him really

(21:53):
stupid for taking money from Tenant Media. Now, for people
that don't really know, there was this company called Tenant
Media that was essentially backed by the Kremlin, and he
got into touch with certain right wing media figures and
paid them a huge amount of money to report certain
stories that were pro Russia and anti Ukraine, and many

(22:14):
of these people just took the money without checking who
it was from and and trotted out the essentially propaganda
that that was that they were asked to say. And
one of these people was Dave Rubin, and Milo called
him stupid. He says, it is irresponsible in the extreme,
to the point of ludicrous negligence to not know where

(22:36):
hundreds of thousands of dollars are coming from. And Tim
got very cross, do we know?

Speaker 5 (22:44):
So yes, I was just thinking what the audacity of
you sat there saying that, because because Tim Paul was
on Tenet Media.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Absolutely he also took the money. He also didn't where
it was from. So yeah, brilliant. So yeah, Tim got
very very cross and tried to defend it, and Milo
was put in a position where he was still determined
to just keep having a Dave Rubin and it took
an uncomfortably long time for him to realize that, oh, yeah,
Tim took that money as well. And then he sort

(23:20):
of wound wound it back a bit and said perhaps
I don't know all the details of your situation. It
was just it put it fabulously encapsulated how fake the
entire right wing media is in just one way, very
short sort of like back and forth, and just.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
He forgot where he was.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Ye, Like, there are some people who have looked at
the way he was acting and suggesting he doesn't know
where he is, but okay, that's just opinion and conjecture
from the internet. But you know, well else really thought
that it was great that Elon Musk had had yet

(24:03):
another child with a random woman, Alex Jones. Of course
it was Alex Jones, Alex James. Elon Musk could shit
in his shoe and put it in Alex Jons's face,
and Alex James would would probably like, you know, go straight,
absolutely thank you. Anyway, So he went immediately immediately on Twitter,

(24:28):
and some people have accused him of being like a
sickophan like but he quelled that with this. Fantastic to
see Elon Musk building a prodigious family and rejecting the
childless culture of the death Cult. He's a true pioneer
in every sense, showing that traditional values can thrive in

(24:48):
modern times. Elon has great taste in engineering, politics and women.
A big family is a blessing and I must to
ensure the future of human civilization. I wish them all
the best. And this was too. This was a response
to Afpost, who tweeted out Elon Musk now has thirteen

(25:14):
children with four different women, Ashley Saint Clair being the latest,
and we must go back over that thing about He's
a true pioneer in every sense, showing that traditional values
can thrive in modern times. Now, I don't care how
many parents are involved in a family. It's none of

(25:35):
my business. It's only down to those involved with it.
Alex should not think that Alex is supposed to be
a conservative. And so this is basically another very very
clear example of Alex completely just folding on his principles
publicly in order to just basically tow you up to

(25:57):
Elon Musk.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Well, that's not exactly the traditional nuclear family, is it.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
No, No, this is the thing. And Alex's fans were
not shy in telling him this. So within basically a
very very short time, there were literally hundreds of people
and every single one of them was pissed off. To
give you a sort of a hint, Astronaut Girl said,

(26:25):
a big family with four women, that's not traditional. Dubbs said,
it's hard to believe Elon having a kid with Ashley
Saint Clair because of the way he's acted the last
two days. Emma the Misfit said, so disappointing reading this, Alex,
out of all the conservative commentators, you've been the one
that has been most disappointing. Shameful, So sad and shameful.

(26:48):
Truth Seeker said, man Alex has fell off a cliff.
Diego said, so we're now celebrating single motherhood because he
definitely ain't raising those children. What happened to children needing
both of their parents raising them? Don't this matter no more?
Sean Christopher hollahans to simply put fuck this eland worship Alex.

(27:10):
You're a Christian. Fornication and polyamory is not something you
applaud and you know it kiss as much.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
So.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, but you can see the line that Alex is
skating at the minute that basically is in a real
fucking mess because he cannot criticize anything that Trump does,
and he cannot criticize anything that Musk does. The Musk
thing is well, it's twofold, right, one of them is
basically like it's this closeness to power Donald Trump is,

(27:43):
you know, he's the president and he's fucking around with
Joe Rogan and Dana White and fucking kid Rock like
you know, it's it's the cheapest version of like Kennedy
knocking around with the Cavalot crowd, and that isn't it.
It's like Sammy Davis Junior and Peter Lawford and Dean Martin,

(28:08):
Like it's a different caliber. Frank sin Archer, Frank sin
Archer wouldn't chewt up a load of good like as
actually you probably might, but uh but yeah, you see
my point, Like it's tacky. It's it's very tacky, but yeah,

(28:28):
like that was Alex's fan's response. And some people obviously
were praising Elon. You know, it's just happy for him
that he's you know, got another child or whatever, and
other people weren't so happy, and other people just wanted

(28:49):
to spread salacious gossip. And one of those people was
Azalea Banks. Do you know Zalea Banks. Yeah, rapper and
basically strange trouble maker. She did that song three one
three is the only one that I've ever really heard
and Anyway, somebody was chatting to a song called Cloning

(29:10):
Hour was chatting to her about Elon Musk. This whole
thing was shared by Liam Nisson, who simply said, Grimes
told me this too. Liam Nisson is somebody that just
trolls right wingers and Trump fans on Twitter. Anyway, cloning
our has said talking about Elon Musk, I heard he

(29:33):
has a botched penis implant, to which Azalea Banks responded,
Grimes told me this too. So, according to Azalea Banks,
Grimes told her that Elon Musk has had a botched
penis implant, which you know, who knows. Maybe that's why

(29:57):
the insistence on IVF potentially, or maybe it's all complete
bullshit because Azalia Banks she's not the most reliable person
or perhaps the most POI it's a polite way of
saying it. Stable. She's got a past, shall we say.

(30:19):
In twenty sixteen, she posted several posts which would be
described as racist and homophobic. It was essentially a rant
against Zane Malik, who was that kid that was in
one direction and for some reason she decided to just
have a go at him and be racist and homophobic.

(30:40):
Term She later decided to target a young actress called
Sky Jackson and as a result that she was actually
booked by her UK booking agency and kicked off like
hip hop festivals and stuff like that, and her Twitter
was suspended for a bit. Later that particular year, she
decided to file a police report against Russell crow of

(31:01):
all people, claiming that he choked her and he'd spat
on her before proceeding to call her the N word
during a party in his hotel suite. However, the case
was dropped weirdly though somebody actually sort of supported her claims.

(31:22):
He did condemn her as saying basically she's just obnoxious
and erratic and her behavior was crazy, but essentially he
supported the story, or at least aspects of the story,
not necessarily the calling of the N word, but certainly
that she was choked and a man handled by Russell

(31:45):
Crowe that was the Rizza from Wu Tang Clan for
fearing on the breakfast club. He apparently was there in
the room, and so later when asked about it, Russell
Crowe said, look, I removed her from the President from
the Premier assist because she was being she was being
threatening and she had said that she was going to

(32:05):
physically assault other attendees, So it sounds like she was
probably grabbed around the throat and thrown out of the
building by Russell Crow. Also that year, So busy year
for for his early banks, a series of videos and
Instagram detailing her clean up of a closet and her
apartment where she claims to have been practicing witchcraft.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Yeah at this time, and we wrote about this one,
did you.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, she had dead chickens and blood and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I think it is. It's called I think it's South
American voodoo.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, fair enough. There's a band called Brewer Herrea which
is sort of all based on cartel murders and that
sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
U they do the hotels and it's one of these
bodies and stuff. They're like witch doctors and ship man.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Right okay, And it's like a sort of it's one
of these like like Santaia type relies, not Santuria, but
it's got the sort of it's sort of half a
bit of Catholicism, bit of sort of South American stuff
in there and whatnot a bit of West Indian.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I think actually Santa Ria might Stora might be South
American stuff and then might be Karen Karen right, Okay,
I'm not positive.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Actually I should kind of shut up.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
But it's that's that type of thing, like, you know,
isn't it. We're just trying to explain what it is
to listeners, basically apparently. In January twenty twenty one, she
received criticism after posting a video Instagram of her digging
up and cooking her dead pet cat Yep, but she
said later that she didn't eat it, she just exhumed

(33:55):
it for taxidermy purposes, which is I mean, it's still
it's still a little unusual, isn't it. In January twenty nineteen,
she posted xenophobic remarks about Irish people after performing in Ireland,
in which she used ethnic slurs and mock the Great Famine,

(34:16):
and that August she posted xenophobic remarks about Swedish people
after performing in Sweden, adding that she would really love
to see someone bomb the shit out of this place.
So again, there is a bit of a pattern that
she does appear to have a little bit of a temper,
this girl, so you know, potentially not the most reliable. However,

(34:37):
you know, if anybody listening knows anything about Elon Musk's penis,
please get in touch and you know, let us know
about it.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
So the clear up.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Breweria is witchcraft in Latin America and known in Spanish
as Brewuria and in Portuguese as Brewharia. It's a blend
of indigenous African and European beliefs. So it's a mix
of different witch perhaps and.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
His voodoo Haitian. Yes, yeah it is, isn't it fair enough?
Lots of different beliefs. I tell you who's got lots
of different beliefs. David Ike and Alex Jones. And there
their back and forth is continuing. It's just going on,
but it's only going on on Twitter. For some reason.

(35:27):
David isn't going on Alex's show, and.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
So many times he has.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Been invited, and like the thing is it could be
that basically realizes that this, if he does, that will
probably be the end of any relationship that he's got
with Alex, because he's got to sort of be you know, confrontational, hasn't.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
He Yeah, and he makes money from tweets. Oh no,
this is going on to Alex Jones's show.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
And the other thing is if he goes and Ilex
changes is showing Alex falls out with him, he might
block him on Twitter or whatever and stuff like that.
It's still a bit of a sort of safe game
that that might be it. It could it could just
it could just be that Alex is lying and he's like,
I don't know, fucking guy on because I mean, Alex
is in is in a pickle as well, because at

(36:19):
least a degree of Alex's audience will listen to David
and or at least we'll know of him. A lot
of his audience won't be following this on Twitter. And
if David was just come on, they would just go, oh,
that's David, that guy that said the things about the
things before or whatever, and he might have credibility. And
then if he starts like coming out with with reasonable

(36:41):
criticisms of Trump and reasonable criticisms of Elon Musk or
reasonable within that world, then Alex's kind of fucked a bit,
isn't it. I Mean that doesn't always matter, because Alex
will just changed his opinion like halfway through a sentence.
But as we've pointed that, he is walking a bit
of a tightrope.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, I mean, they're both stuck in this weird dichotomy
of audience capture, trying to get each other's audience a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, yeah, So if you remember before, like basically Alex
has had tweeted out the moronic left is trying to
spin Trump's perfectly clear statements as dictator talk just because
he's essentially quoting a dictator. David Ike responded to that
it doesn't need to be spun because it is dictator talk.

(37:30):
And I am not stupid enough to beyond the left
of the right in a one party state. I think
they used to call others sheeple. Oh the irony, but
don't worry, it's okay when we do it, Which is
a reasonable sort of like criticism of critique of Alex
at the minute, because basically Alex is supporting all sorts

(37:50):
of what he would consider police state actions, like executive orders.
Previously he said executive orders are tyrannical, utilizing the military
and militarized police to round people up. Previously he would
have said that that was police state tactics. He used
to say that toll booths were police state tactics. Like
also he used to say that that road that they

(38:12):
were going to build in the middle of America, that
would have made it easier to get from Mexico to Canada,
was a foundation step in the new World Order because
it would turn that entire continent into one region. But
he's basically praising them, suggesting that they should annex Canada
and Greenland and the Panama Canal using military force if possible.

(38:34):
Wells at the same time basically saying, oh wow, China,
it looks like there's going to be nuclear war with
China and stuff. He's just all over the place. He's
a fucking is a prap. But David makes this point.
And what it was that Alex said in the entire speech,

(38:57):
because there was a video posted with that. What is
said in it was the mainstream media tried to say
Trump is Judge Dread of the comic book character from Megacity.
I am the law. Trump didn't say I am the
state like Mussolini. He didn't say I am the law.
He said, who is trying to save his country is

(39:19):
not breaking the law. He who tries to put out
a house on fire is not breaking the law. He
who takes care of his family is not breaking the law.
Democrats have been saying he is breaking the law, that
he is a tyrant with all these executive orders. That
is not saying, for the greater good, I can break

(39:40):
any law I want to. And then he goes on
to say that he's nothing like Hitler or Mussolini because
Trump was elected, which doesn't entirely work, because Mussolini was
elected and although though Hitler wasn't elected to he was
given the chancellorship, but it was per perfectly legal. He

(40:00):
didn't come to power through through uh did did it
through political means? Now, of course there were street thugs
and stuff like that, but if but yeah, it doesn't
really work. Also, he who tries to put out a
house on fire is not breaking the law. Well, it
depends how you do it. If you do it by
running a tank over it, killing all the occupants, yeah,

(40:23):
you very much are breaking the law if you do
it in such a negligent way that it makes it worse.
Like say, if say, if just one room's on fire
and you pour petrol on it because you really genuinely
think that basically the best way to kill a fire
is to feed it until it pops, then yes, you

(40:43):
could could be held liable. You are breaking the law.
He who takes care of his family is not breaking
the law.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
I mean depends what take care of means.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I mean, you did, like.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Take care of Lily.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
But even the sort of stealing bread to feed your
starving child or whatever, it's like, that's still breaking the law.
You might have a moral justification for that.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
The whole plot of Limb.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Is, That's what I was going to say, is you never.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Seen lame is?

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Of course he's never seen lame is, Like God, that's
that's another another musical that we really like christ anyway. Yeah,
some of them are like did you ever like? Yeah?
The one that I didn't like, I would probably never
go to see is that Green Day one that sounded
insufferable and I quite like it sounds genterfle but hey, hey,

(41:42):
what can you do anyway? So so that's again, that's
just utter bullshit scrabbling from from Alex. It doesn't really
make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's just it.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
It doesn't explain why it's not tyrannical, why it's dictatorial.
That doesn't work. His examples don't work, And like, what
are he's saying as well, is that the ends justify
the means, which he basically says that I'm not saying
for the greater good, I could break break any law
I want. You are, That's exactly what you're saying. You're

(42:17):
saying that the ends justify the means, and it's all
to justify Trump basically going outside of the law to
to have tyrannical power. And that'd say the reason that
those checks and balancers that are in there are to
ensure that the leader of the country doesn't have dictorial power,
which is something that Alex has been moaning about since
before anyone knew who fucking was. Bill Cooper'd be spinning

(42:39):
in his grave right now, like saying, I fucking told you,
I fucking told you Alex was a Rogin Better. Yeah.
Sentiment on Twitter was this, Sean Patrick said, in a
few short years, Alex Jones has transformed into a globalist

(42:59):
that fully support anything that our federal government does while
refusing to question their authority. Wild and yeah, it's it's
absolutely true. It's ridiculous. So we're now on to February
the seventeenth, and this ferrare around Donald Trump seeming to

(43:25):
say that he's a dictator. It's not going down well.
And The Guardian have decided to do a story about it,
and they say critics rounded on Donald Trump on Sunday
for likening himself to Napoleon in the dictatorial social media post,
echoing the French emperor's assertion that he who saves his

(43:46):
country does not violate any laws. The post came at
the end of another tumultuous week in Trump's second presidency,
during which acolytes question of the legitimacy of judges making
a secession of rulings of stories administration's aggressive or dismantling
of federal institutions and budgets. He is the most lawless
president in US history, Robert Reich, a former US Secretary

(44:08):
of Labour, wrote on Wednesday in the Garden, this is bonkers.
In our system of government. Is up to the courts
to determine whether the president is using his power legitimately
not the president. According to the Associated Press, the administration
is now facing at least seventy lawsuits nationwide, covering actions
from the attempt and elimination of birthright citizenship to the

(44:30):
freezing of federal grants and funds, and with the accessing
of sensitive computer systems and data by unofficial entities like
he's not even been in for an entire month. This
is the seventeenth, and it's crazy. They're cutting departments, they're firing.
Here's something that struck me as well. Right, okay, one

(44:51):
of the great the things that they always talk about
is jobs and such like that they're making huge numbers
of people unemployed, Like how is that good? I mean,
they're they're sort of rationalizing it on on the Twitter
sphere by saying, well, you know, it's cutting government efficiencies
finding all this fraud and stuff like that. And it's like, well, yeah,

(45:12):
but these people's jobs weren't fraud, but they must have
been doing something like and again we'll reiterate, like every
single thing that they've said thus far has turned out
to be utter fucking bullshit, Like it's it's it's crazy,
like they haven't found anything that they could be considered

(45:34):
fraud or or wrongdoing. It's it is. It's absolutely bizarre.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
To be quite honest, if these people lost their jobs.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
And those claims of fraud, wouldn't those people be actually
just be locked up if they were doing the fraud?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Or you think so will you do? You know what
I mean they're trying to make makes sense, No, don't.
If it makes sense, they're trying to make it out
there that the essential that the civil service is like
this sort of mysterious espionage riddle sort of place where
all of this sort of like everybody's in on the
take and blah blah blah, and like, you know, it's

(46:17):
all a fiddle and literally billions of pounds are being
paid for people to do for all and it's not
it's you know, a lot of the work is laborious.
It's very very worthwhile, and to be quite honest, it's
not sexy. It's it's completely dull and gray. And speaking
of things that are not sexy and completely dune and gray,

(46:40):
a bit of a bit of a throwback. No, no,
but but but but not far off John Major.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
No, don't say those words. Every time you say John Major.
I think between occurring.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Exactly had occured, Like she wrote in her book, she
was a former cabinet minister. She wrote in a book,
a supposedly fictionalized account of a sectional encounter with a
senior politician, including whipped cream and strawberries. And then it
transpired that this has actually happened in real life, which

(47:24):
should be a bit like watching two shellless Galapagos isle
turtles wrestle in a puddle. It wouldn't be the most
erotic thing that you've ever seen. I'll put it that
way anyway, Sir John Major. He came back and accused

(47:44):
Donald Trump of cuddling up to Vladimir Putin, and he
warned that two port dictators around the world would be
emboldened if the US agrees on the deal, on a
deal that would leave Russia in control of Ukrainian territory.
He also suggested if for very aggressive Russia was to
succeed in their adventure in Ukraine, no doubt there would

(48:05):
be elsewhere before too long. A retreat by the US
towards isolation would also leave the door open for China
and Russia. He said, there's no doubt in my mind
that the world is changing and that it's reshaping. That
it may not be reshaping in a way that's congenial
to the West, and it's a very unsettled time. Indeed.
He also hit out at a rant by mister Trump's

(48:25):
deputy jd Vance on Friday, saying it's extremely odd to
lecture Europe on the subject of free species democracy at
the same time that they're could link mister Putin. He warned,
consider what happens. If Russia can claim a win, China
is going to notice that, and so will the world,
and so will every tinpot dictator around the world. If

(48:47):
America is not to stand behind its allies in the
way that the world is previously seen, they were moving
into a wholly different and in my view, rather more
dangerous world. So actually relatively sensible words there from John Major,
the former Prime Minister and apparent top shagga from the

(49:09):
United Kingdom. What he was talking about there with I mean,
what he's saying is is absolutely correct, and Trump is
basically being forward, which does make you wonder whether that
pissed tape was actually real, to be quite honest, to
what other compromise he might have on him when he
was talking about jd Vance. Jd Vance did a speech

(49:33):
and basically he started moaning about retreating Europe, was retreating
from some of its most fundamental values, and he argued
that basically there was no free speech in the UK.

(49:53):
What was it he said, Like he referenced all sort
of bullshit he was basically talking about out recent things
where like people somebody got like sanction for silently praying
outside of abortion center and it's like no, you weren't.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
They were.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
They were trespassing and they had been told not to
go there, like you know, because there's been previously hardassing people. Yeah, exactly,
and stuff like that. But it's it's just vance just
been a dick, and it's all in line essentially with
Twitter what it's really about, aside from sort of red
meat to his base just by you know, oh, you

(50:35):
can't say anything, you get arrested for saying things in
the in the UK and Europe, it's it's disgraceful over there.
What he's trying to say is that it's to do
with Twitter is really what it is about. In Europe,
they're really looking at trying to put the DSA into effect,

(50:55):
which would hold platform owners to account. In America, they're
not so keen on that, they don't give a shit
about it. They're more going down the community notes, which
is ridiculous because it's basically like, well, well, let the
let the people decide what's true. It's like the people
don't know what's fucking true, Like why would they? Why

(51:17):
would they? They weren't there. You've got to get this
information through some sort of con do it, and and
this just opens the door for like gaming of the
system essentially, and so this this free speech bullshit, it's
it's twofold a con one. It's basically I can't say
the end word, and I can't I can't be really

(51:37):
mean to trans people. And then the second point is
that basically, yeah, platforms are going to be held to
account for some of the sort of liveless shit and
like harmful ship that is on their platform and JD.
Vancy's in the pocket of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk
doesn't want that to happen. So yeah, John Major, as

(52:04):
much as he might look like vampire, he actually was
speaking the truth and speaking of vampires. Remember I promised
that there would be vampires.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yes, well you said that in what in reference to
the Social Security thing?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, basically, like all it was really was
that Basically Elon Musk is he's been beavering away trying
to find all this fraud and stuff like that, and
he's got this. Well, his kids are absolutely like the
electronic Fagan, but he's He says that according to the

(52:54):
Social Security Database, there are numbers of people in each
age boocket with the death fields set to maybe twilight
is real, and there are a lot of vampires collecting
social security. And then he did two crying, laughing emoji faces.
My god, this man's in act like like Christ, like

(53:16):
it it's it's it's. I've stared at walls that have
got more social affection skills than this man. Like you know,
I've had splinters that have got more charisma than Elon
fucking Musk. Right, So, anyway, this database, it goes forty
to forty nine, fifty to fifty nine, blah blah blah

(53:38):
numbers in the forty five million, forty six million, into
the sixty to sixty nine, eighty to eighty nine, fifteen million,
then ninety to ninety nine. Is apparently six over six
million people collecting social security. Fair enough, more strange, apparently,
four million, seven hundred and thirty four thousand, four hundred

(54:00):
people over the age of one hundred and under the
age of one hundred and nine are collecting social security
one hundred to ten two hundred and nineteen over three
and a half million in the one hundred and twenty
two hundred and twenty nine age range, three and a
half million, nearly four million in one hundred and thirty,
two hundred and thirty nine, one hundred and forty two

(54:23):
hundred and forty nine, three and a half million, one
hundred and fifty to one hundred and fifty nine years old,
there's only one million, three hundred and forty five thousand them,
and then obviously tailors down, ending up with four hundred
and forty eight people in the one hundred and ninety
to one hundred and ninety nine years old that are
apparently claiming Social Security. And it's worse than that. Elon

(54:49):
Musk worked out that eighty three percent of Social Security
claims of people who were dead. And he comes to
this conclusion because some random guy on Twitter pointed out that,
hang on, if you add all of those numbers up,
that makes three hundred and ninety four million, nine hundred

(55:11):
and forty three, three hundred and sixty four But the
total population of the United States of America is three
hundred and thirty four million, And Elil Musk goes, yes,
there are far more eligible Social Security numbers than there
are citizens in the United States of America. This might

(55:31):
be the biggest fraud in history. And you say it
might be that. Let's first start like a why is
he making a Twilight reference. That's that's now come on,
come on, that's for girls, say the Lost Boys, say Dracula,

(55:52):
say say anything like this is nos Ferati film that's
just come out, say nos Ferrati like like reference Near Dark.
Most people won't get that because it's a little bit
more obscure. But it has got Bill packed in it
and Lance Hedrickson and the woman who plays that woman
that's both Vasquez and John Connor's stepmom whose name escapes me.

(56:16):
It's good watch it. Anyway, I forget my original point.
But Elon Musk what his fingers hardly on the pulse?

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (56:25):
I know, I want to say with okay, but Jesus
Twilight that is that is outrageous. But anyway, basically he
has uncovered that there's there's millions pet of people claiming
social security checks that just that they're not for them,
And maybe this implies that that a lot of people

(56:47):
aren't alive, although although if they were still alive, have
they been buried, because otherwise that would also be added
onto the population count. So they must have been buried
and they had risen from their graves to go and
collect social security? Can that be done at night? Can

(57:08):
you collect social Security at night? Maybe they're all doing
it in Alaska, Like there's a period of darkness in Alaska,
isn't there? Like who knows? Like this is something that
does this is this is something that Doze really needs
to get onto or maybe not right? Okay, because this
guy called Joshua back, he tweeted in response, I'm a

(57:30):
database engineer here. This just demonstrates how Elon Musk does
not understand how the SQL is undropped in the COBOL.
He has no idea how many specially trained engineers are
needed for the data integrity. Social Security servers will be
fatally crashing in two weeks from now. So just to explain,
there aren't large numbers of elderly people. This is this

(57:55):
is well the daily cost report. Let me just read this.
Reports say that his group is made up of fairly
young people. And what those kids don't realize is that
Social Security uses very old computers. They are programmed with
an old version of program language called COBOL. A bit
of history. On May the twentieth, eighteen seventy five, a

(58:18):
bunch of countries got together to create the International Bureau
of Weights and Measures, which establish uniform standards of mass
and length. Later on, the Bureau established rules for dates
as well. The dates standard used a starting date of
May the twentieth, eighteen seventy five to honor the creation
of this bureau. So old versions of COBOL, which is

(58:38):
this programming program, use that date as a baseline. Social
Security computers use that old version. Dates are stored as
the number of days after May the twentieth, eighteen seventy five.
So what happens if Social Security doesn't know a birth date?

(58:59):
That field is empt in its recordscus that period appears
to have a birthday of May the twentieth, eighteen seventy five,
which is one hundred and fifty years ago. That's why
the cracked team of youngsters you that's why the cracked
team of youngsters must users found one hundred and fifty
year old people in Social Security getting benefits. It's all

(59:19):
really simple and as stupid as that. So we checked
the real figures. This is daily cause, not us. Here's
a table of people within the deaf field set of
false and are recipient sets true. A mere eighty nine
thousand or one hundred and six people are getting benefits
and our age ninety nine plus, So there are eighty

(59:41):
nine thousand people who are above the age of ninety
nine that in America who are actually getting benefits. And
this is out of more than fifty million people. So basically,
those ninety nine and older are getting benefits are two
tenths of one percent of the recipient. It's basically like
a rounding error. But do you know how many people

(01:00:04):
in America are over the age of ninety nine? Have
no idea more than ninety thousand, which means that some
of those who are over ninety nine are not claiming benefits,
which Bag seemly moves that there's no significant fraud, if
any fraud at all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Of course, there's always going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Fraud in these systems, and people like signing on for
dead relatives and stuff like that. But basically this just
shows why this is a really good example of why
you have experts in situations and why you shouldn't have
people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about
are doing going and interfering with the idea of cost
cutting or making money, and when they just obviously just

(01:00:46):
don't really know what they're talking about, and it's again
they're doing it as a publicity stunt, and it's dangerous
because they fuck around and do stupid shit like this.
And and actual engineers, people who are database experts, people
that work in this sort of very specialized field, have
been sounding the alarm and saying they're going to mess

(01:01:08):
around and cause real problems because they obviously don't know
anything about what they're dealing with. And yeah, this is it,
but you know, speaking of people who don't understand things
but want to get attention, David Ike also jumped on this,
but he jumped on it, of course, in completely the

(01:01:28):
wrong way. Note that when he highlights alleged fraud in
social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, that's that he's not doing
it for you, okay. His target is to destroy all
three and he wants you to be okay with that
because of the fraud he claims to have found. It's
all a mind game and it's been long planned. Anyone

(01:01:49):
think that the speed in which it's happening doesn't tell
you something, And so David doesn't actually understand what has
gone wrong. But to be fair, he has spotted that
musque probably hasn't got most people's best interests at heart.
When he's looking to dismantle the social security infrastructure. And

(01:02:12):
you know, this is fucking embarrassing. If you're dealing with
huge amounts of money like this and you're making claims
as outlandish and outrageous as this and continually being shown
to be wrong, At what point do people really get
pissed off with it? Like?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
It's it's stupid, like back the moment you're reading for Yeah, Now,
there was a bit of a twist to this story
because it transpired that there was an occasion where there
were payments made to dead people of over a billion dollars.

(01:02:53):
But those isn't really going to be bothered about this
because it was by the very first Trump administration. What
happened was, well, I was, just as CNBC reported, the
Government Accountability Office, So there is one of those fucking things.
So there's no reason for those to exist, is there?

(01:03:15):
And you know what they did, They actually uncovered some
fucking errors because they found out that one point one
million payments totally almost one point four billion dollars were
mistakenly sent to people who were dead in April the thirtieth,
twenty twenty. So what happened here, So the government actually

(01:03:39):
was rushing to get stimulus checks, and the stimulus checks
were all throwsed by Congress with the two million dollars
Cares Act, about three hundred billion of which went to
the the two trillion dollars Care At about three hundred
billion of which went to the pay program. About one
hundred and sixty million payments. Totally two hundred and sixty

(01:03:59):
nine billion have been sent out. However, these payments are
based on either the twenty eighteen or the twenty nineteen
tax returns, so some individuals who filed they still received
payments even though they passed away. So basically what happened
was there was over a million people who in that

(01:04:20):
two years had died and they all received a check,
and the check was about twelve hundred dollars. Now what
happened was all of those checks cashed, their relatives received
them and probably went, yeah, you know what, I'm cashing this,
and because of the Cares Act, essentially there was no

(01:04:42):
law in place to get that money back. So there
was a huge error there on the part of the
Trump campaign, and it costs the American taxpayer over a
billion dollars. Yeah, you know, so it shows that accidents

(01:05:06):
do happen like and you know, governments are always a
bit shunky. But thus far Elon Musk has failed to
uncover any fraud at all. But he does happen to
sort of know some frauds. You know. Javier Milat, the

(01:05:31):
the president of Argentina. Oh yeah, well he might be
in a bit of hot water because he's basically been
accused of fraud over the promotion of a crypto currency,
which probably means that you could call him a crypto fascist,

(01:05:54):
a crypto fascist friend. Anyway, basically I had to hold that,
according to According to Euronews, lawyers in Argentina have brought
fraud case against the country's president, Javier Malay for promoting
a cryptocurrency whose values soon plummeted. The libertarian leader wrote

(01:06:19):
about the digital currency called dollar sign Libra in a
tweet on Friday. The cryptocurrency was aimed at encouraging economic
growth by funding small businesses and startups, he said, before
deleting his social media posts a few hours later. His
message included a link to a website where the digital
coins could be obtained. The domain name Viva la Libertaire

(01:06:42):
Dad project is a reference to a well known phrase Maleel,
who uses it at the end of his speeches, which
translates to long Live freedom. Shortly after Malay's post on
x the value of dollar sign Libra was, which was
developed by KIP protocol collapse, causing millions of dollars in
last for investors. According to the financial site dex screener,

(01:07:05):
Jonathan Baldavisio, one of the lawyers who filed charges against
Relay on Sunday, alleged that an indetermined number of frauds
have been committed. Milay has said that his political rivals
are trying to take advantage of the episode. I was
not aware of the details of this project, and after
getting informed, I decided not to continue promoting it, which
is why I deleted the tweet, he said. The numbers, though,

(01:07:26):
paint a brutal picture. Eighty six percent of traders who
brought into Libra lost money, with total losses reaching two
hundred and fifty one million dollars. According to blockchain analytics
from Nansen, a looky few pocketed one hundred and eighty million.
So this is another example of what's called a pump
and dump, where essentially somebody Andrew Tait has done it,

(01:07:52):
added twenty two. Did the Hawk to a Girl?

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Did it? So?

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
You know the President Trump did it as well, absolutely so.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
A few days before he was inaugurated. Yeah, Christmas Day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Yeah, and Millenia did. Milania did as well. Basically they
both did, and they both did pumping dump schemes where
lots of people lost money. I think their coins are
still going, but I think no one's making any money
of them, and I think the reason they're still going
is just to basically hide the obvious fraud. It's never
going to pick up again, but this one basically just

(01:08:25):
everyone lost their money. How it works is you've got
like a certain amount of saleable coins, and then you've
got like the investor's wallet, and the investor's wallet is
a certain percentage of these coins which aren't for sale
to the general public. What happens is when the general
public buy buy their coins, it raises all the price

(01:08:47):
of the coins. But then if all the people in
the wallet suddenly go, well, that's enough money for us,
and they sell theirs, all the money that's been invested,
the rest of the coin loses its value, and so
they sell at the highest value, and that immediately causes
the value of the remaining stock or the stock owned
by the members of the public to drop. And because

(01:09:10):
they tend to do it so quickly, like almost immediately
after launch, that's why so many people get caught caught
up in these things.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Well, was that I pretty much zoned out the minute
you started.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I don't know either, but I've been watching coffee Zilla
recently and that's essentially houtworks. It's a really basic con
in fairness. It could be that Milay didn't make any
money off of it. There's been certain cases like Out
of twenty two as a podcast host, he did one
recently and he claimed that he didn't make any money

(01:09:49):
off it. He just got paid like however much to
promote it. However, you still are promoting it, so you
still have a massive degree responsibility towards people because people
once have bought it without your say so, so you're
completely responsible with the hawk to her girl, it's unclear

(01:10:09):
whether she made any money off of it or whether
she was also sort of essentially kind of tricked. But
this is just the latest sort of scam. It was
NFTs and stuff like that. This is the latest thing.
But the reason that it's so sketchy that such prominent
people are doing. It is because, as I say, it's
completely it's completely unregulated. But I'll tell you one thing

(01:10:34):
that is very very well regulated, perhaps too well regulated
in some areas, at least according to some Germany. Now,
basically MAGA is kind of exploded because there was a
sixty minutes show that was on CBS and it talked

(01:10:57):
about German laws about insulting people on the internet. And
this is somewhat fed into this sort of idea that
you know, you can get arrested just for saying you're
English in this country, and how there's no free speech
and how you're not allowed to say anything. Now, Germany

(01:11:18):
has always had slightly different sort of rules and all,
but also like slightly different sort of standards of what
is considered polite and what is considered not polite and stuff.
I remember you telling me the stories about nudity, for example,
is not considered a big deal like it in Germany.

(01:11:39):
Talking about the Holocaust or denying the Holocaust is considered
a big deal in Germany, and you know, for obvious reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Essentially, are yeah a big deal?

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Yeah, yeah, quite Anyway, I don't know much about this
and I have mixed feelings on this, but CB has
reported that an effort, it says, to protect discourse, German
authorities have started prosecuting online trolls. As we saw, it
often begins with the pre dawn wake up call for
the police. It's six o one on a Tuesday morning,
and we're in the state and we're with the state police.

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As they raided this apartment in northwest Germany. Inside six
armed officers such as suspects home then seized his laptop
and cell phone. Prosecutors say those electronics may have been
used to commit a crime, the crime posting a racist
cartoon online. At the exact same time, across Germany, more
than fifty similar raids played out, part of what the

(01:12:34):
prosecutor say is a coordinated effort to curb online hate
speech in Germany. Now I'll immediately say, CBS there have
done something a bit shunky, which, as they've said armed
police or police are armed in America, I would presume
or assume sorry, that police are all armed in Germany.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Yes, right, So.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
The armed there is just to make it sound like
it's a lot more over the top than it actually is. Also,
this particular person has been he hasn't even been arrested,
but he's had his laptop and electronic devices, sees because

(01:13:17):
he's posted a racist cartoon online that is actually illegal,
like particularly if it's directed as a hate crime. And
we don't know what that cartoon was like. It could
have been something relatively harmless. It could have been an
off color joke. It could have been something really really

(01:13:40):
like grim. We don't know, so they're already kind of
waiting this article. But anyway, Sharon in Fightful, it could
have been we don't know something. Yeah, basically, Sharon, who's
the host, says, what's the typical reaction when people show
up at somebody's door and they say, hey, we believe
you wrote this on the internet. And Dr Mattaiospink said,

(01:14:01):
they say in German, we say dasverd manya wal nok
sagen durfin. So we're here with crimes of talking posting
on the internet. And the people who are surprised that
this is really illegal to post these kinds of words.
And the host says they don't think it was illegal,
and dodr Mateuspink says, no, they don't think it is illegal,
and they say, no, that's my free speech, and we

(01:14:23):
say no, you have free speech as well, but it
also has limits. As prosecutors explain, the German constitution protects
free speech, but not hate speech. And here's where it
gets tricky. German law prohibits any speech that could incite
hatred or his deed insulting. It's illegal to display this
Nazi symbolism, a swastika, or deny the Holocaust. That's clear.

(01:14:46):
But is it also a crime to insult somebody in public?
And Svender Menninghaus said yes. And one question, is it
a crime to insult them online as well? Yes? And
doctor mitais Fink says the fine could be even higher
if you insult someone in the internet. So immediately there
it's it's it's a fine. It's not jail time or

(01:15:09):
anything like that. It's it's a fine. So Sharon that
the host asks why if it's on the internet would
the fine be higher, and he says, because in the
internet it stays there. If we're talking face to face,
you insult me, I insult you, okay, finish. If you're
on the internet, or if I insult you're a politician,
it sticks around forever. And that's that's actually something that

(01:15:30):
I'd not really considered because there are.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
It's quite a fair point, actually.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Yeah, because you know there are arguments about what is
where the line is drawn with free speech, but that
certainly is the thing. And it made me silly actually
think about like for example, like the Manchester case and
such like, do you know what I mean? Like even
though Saint Martin's been to court to have like Richard
take certain stuff down, I saw some someone posting stuff

(01:15:59):
about Richard's Manchester series the other day, like literally the
other day. So so that this is true. The sad
fact is that it does stay on the internet. Now
an insult is a crime. That's again I don't know
about that. Did Were you aware of that when you
lived in Germany? Was that a thing?

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Is it one of these things where it's basically I
suspect it's one of these things where it's basically a
bit like taping stuff off the radio like that people
used to do, or like pirrating the occasional DVD or
something like that, or getting libel. Well, well here's the thing,
that's what I was going to say. It's a bit

(01:16:42):
like sort of like burning CDs off LimeWire or whatever.
Everybody knows you're not supposed to do it, but the
likelihood if you're getting prosecuted for it is very very
slim unless you were doing it on an industrial scale.
And the same with sort of speech. It would have
to cross the threshold before people would bother to to
sort of approach you. The host goes on to say,

(01:17:04):
if someone posts something that's not true and then somebody
else reposts it or likes it, are they also committing
a crime, and Svenja maning House says yeah, in the
case of reposting, it is a crime as well, because
the reader can't distinguish whether you just invented this or
just reposted it. The punishment for breaking hate speech laws
can include jane jail time, but only for repeat offenders.

(01:17:26):
In most cases are judge levies are stiff, fine and
sometimes we keep their electronic devices. The example is that
they show our hate speech that basically led to the
murder of a man called Walter Lubker, a pro immigration
politician in twenty nineteen. They also show people asking for
immigrants to be killed. How However, apparently in Germany it

(01:17:51):
is also illegal to call a politician something as tame
as a jerk. Or a son of a bitch. So
this is the thing. It is a fine line. I'm
not sure that I would agree with that personally, but again,

(01:18:12):
do you know what, I don't think Germany gives a
fuck what I think, particularly the law Germany. I really
don't think that the Chancellor is going to listen to
this and go, well, hang on, neil things. So that's
a bit much. Maybe we should change our mind. Someone
else who disagreed was Jade Vance. Basically he as you remember,
he'd just spoken in Munich last week doing the whole

(01:18:33):
oh Europe's censorship. He did blast this or welly in
German hate speech law, insulting someone is not a crime,
and criminalizing speech is going to put real strain on
the European US relationships. And in that vein, I'd like
to say, jd Vance, your eyeline wearing twat, it's not crime.

(01:18:56):
He goes on to say, this is all Wellyan and
everyone in Europe and the you must reject this lunacy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
The thing is, I just thought, I'm sure every band
that you like probably like they wear eyeliner.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
They certainly wear some some corpse paint. Absolutely, I don't
mind the eyeliner I don't mind Iliner per se. It's
just a way to hurt Jady Vance's feelings. He's no
David Bowie, right, you know, He's no Marilyn Manson, like,
so you can't get away with it, like if he

(01:19:35):
if he could pin a black metal tune as well
as one by One by Immortal, then he could even
This is the thing, like they're so good. They can
carry fucking axes and wear armor, which looks fucking stupid,
but they own it and they get away with it
because they ship are Jady Vans could carry an acts,
Jady Vans could wear armor, but he can't even do

(01:19:57):
a fucking tremolo. Pick the guy ship. I wouldn't listen
to his album anyway. The thing is right, Okay, there
might be a degree of something to this, like okay,
I personally, I mean, for Christ's sake, you're listening to this,
you know, I think you understand my opinion on whether
you should be allowed to insult people, particularly public figures.

(01:20:21):
So I wouldn't agree with that there is It depends
on how this law is in force, to be quite honest,
do you know what I mean? It's one of those
things where you could see perfectly sensible iterations of it,
and you could see t iterations where it's completely over
the top. It's Yeah, it's one of those things that

(01:20:48):
requires nuance, I think, and intelligence to talk about it,
and I don't think you're going to get that. I
don't think that's why the stories are being put out.
I think these stories have been put out as as
red meat and they're being hyped.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Yeah, I mean on the surface, it seems like overreach,
that's for suretely. Like you said, we don't know the
context of who these people are who were arrested.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Maybe there was even more to the story there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Hadn't been, like I hadn't been told to the press,
because you do hold stuff back at the end of
the day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
The story, I mean, the story very much implies that
if you went on Twitter when Angela Merkle is a
jerk or something like that, then you would get a
knock at your door at six in the morning by
armed police.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
Yeah, but that doesn't but the.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Story doesn't actually show that. The story shows that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
So it's something completely different that somebody that posted racist
cartoons got a knock on the door and had the
device taken off of him to to check to see
if it was him that actually sent that and the
story even actual. He has to clarify that basically most
people will just get stiff fine, and it's only repeat offenders.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
But here's the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Thing, like, you don't know what the constitution of repeat
is within this, it could well constitute harassment. Like if
I was to go, like, you know, if you were
to target a particular politician or whatever and every day
send them a hundred messages calling them a jerk, I
could understand why that might actually constitute a crime. So

(01:22:31):
so do you know what I mean? If it's a
one time deal, that seems a little bit a bit
over the top from my liking. But but yeah, but
as I say, I think this is this is the
problem this this topic. There is a there is a
debate to be had. There is a debate about even

(01:22:53):
even thing. It's like the digital service acts and stuff
like that that that there's problems that could arise on them,
and censorship and directing of voices in political ways that
is just as bad as propaganda's for example, But it
requires nuance and intelligence, and nuance and intelligence is certainly

(01:23:16):
lacking in jd Vance's argument, and another area where nuance
and intelligence is completely lacking is in the ongoing battle
between David Iike and Alex Jones. See Alex puts out
this video whining, and it's it's bizarre, like he's basically

(01:23:38):
he's moaning because everybody's saying that he's sticking up for
Donald Trump and he's sticking up for Elon Musk, and
that he's a complete sellout and he's going against all
these principles, and you know, they're telling the truth about
what he's actually doing. But Alex isn't happy about this,
and so he puts out this video and in it
he says, and he's talking about the trolls that have

(01:24:00):
you go at him, they have no effect on us
other than being mentally ill. They should just come back
for the big win. Oh, Jones is just on Trump
and must constantly just sucking their wienies on air. And
it's just, look, I've almost been put in prison and
my family destroyed and my parents bankrupted because they attacked

(01:24:21):
them to get at me for years, fighting these people
for years. You bet I'm getting the living shit kicked
out of me. And some thousand pound gorilla jumps in
and beats my enemy to a pull. You bet I
like that gorilla. I mean, I mean he paints a
very vivid picture.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
I mean I try to hold it in until you're finished.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
I mean, this is beautiful. These groups were starting nuclear
war and bankrupting everything, and you're surprised that groups got
together and rode in on the popular movement that we
help build together and come and have change. Everything doesn't
have to be pure corruption and evil. Nothing will ever
be perfect. But we don't need a government absolutely out
to get us. We could just not have that. But

(01:25:14):
you've got to demand it, and you've got to be informed,
You've got to have energy, you've got to be involved.
I didn't go out and do PayPal and Tesla and
SpaceX and Starlink and open Ai, and I'm forgetting half
the others, the boring company, all of that. I've just
got one job fighting the globalists, and I'm obsessed with

(01:25:35):
I've definitely on what you would call the spectrum. You bet,
I love after being held under the water holding my breath,
to finally have President Trump and Elon Musk reaching down
and saying have some air, and people are saying Jones
want to punch him. In the nose. What the fuck
is Elon Musk doing? What the fuck Elon Musk pulls

(01:25:57):
me out of the water, and what I just bite
his nose, Just bite his nose clean off. I don't
bite the hand feeding me when the hand feeding me
is one hundred percent aligned with what I want to
do to the globalists. And then he compares Donald Trump
and Elon Musk to sourn from the Lord of the Rings,

(01:26:17):
and he gets all excited because he remembers that bit
at the beginning of in Lord of the Rings where
Sarren kills people with a big mace, and he acts
that out like a kid that's just come out the
cinema would going remember that bet and he's killing him
all He's like yeah, And at no point does anyone
point out to him that sour On's the bad guy.

(01:26:41):
So anyway, few bits to go through in there, Like
first off is like, oh, they have no effect on
us other than being mentally ill, which is a particularly
childish way to sort of start it. It then goes
on to rant for about four minutes proving that they
absolutely have had an effect on him.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Which I'm very tempted to make.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
You go back and do it again in your Alex
Jones impression.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Oh I can't, it's too long, and he gets too
angry with it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
It's too angry.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Yeah, he's too angry.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Prefer the documentary over over, that's better.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
But he then goes like, you know, they tried to
put me in prison, which I don't think is true.
My family destroyed. I mean, if that's true, that's down
to you. Like, you know, you divorced from your first wife.
She said that you, you know, were very unpleasant, and
your second wife, you accused you of cheating on her

(01:27:38):
and employed blackwater mercenaries to spy on her. So you know,
there you go. My parents bankrupted. Well that's probably because
you ended up borrowing money off your parents. But but
that's what you've done throughout your entire career. You wouldn't
have had a career without borrowing money from your dad.
There's nothing necessarily wrong with that, but like you pretend

(01:27:59):
actively that that's not the case anyway. So basically he's
saying that Donald Trumper and that are sticking up for him,
and he sort of says that he's doing that because
they want to do the same as he wants to
do to the globalist. He kind of fucks up though,
because he does say this line, and I don't know

(01:28:22):
if people picked it up, but everything doesn't have to
be pure corruption and evil. Nothing will ever be perfect,
which implies that he wants everything to be corrupt and evil.
That's how it comes across when I've heard him say,
and obviously he's miss misspeaking, but it just shows that
he's proud when he means the boring company, he doesn't

(01:28:45):
mean one that's like really dull. He's got a drilling company.
He made like a sort of like Tesla subway system
for Tesla cars. It's like a tunnel system that goes
under Las Vegas, but it's only for Tesla.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Cars, I think, and maybe Ronnie read out I didn't
think boring.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Well, that's that's how it comes across. And when I
first heard him say that, I was like, that's a bit,
but actually, yeah, he's the insulting Yeah. And then at
the end when he loses it and gets into a
fantasy about trying to bite Elon Musk snows off, but
then remembers that that's not what he does. But it's
the thing. I don't bite the hand that's feeding me

(01:29:24):
when the hand that feeding me is one hundred percent
aligned with what I want to.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
Do to the globalist, which ilies his nose.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
If he doesn't bite the hand, well, it's makes it's
confused at best.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
But what that also implies is that basically absolutely would
bite the hand that feeding him if he felt that
he could get something out of it, because he specifies
that there are one hundred percent aligned with it, and
it's like, it just shows that he's just he's just
got no integrity basically. And somebody that again that calls

(01:29:55):
him out on that is David David Ike who says
you're a propagandist for an unfolding fascist takeover and I
will go on calling out for it. The ex algorithms
love you because you were promoting the script and you
moan about shadow band sites with integrity. Who sees the obvious?
Who sees the obvious? I don't know. It's not well written.

(01:30:16):
You may say you fought the globalist once, and that
may be true once, but not anymore. If you didn't
want to be criticized for kissing the musk slash trump
ass at every turn, you shouldn't have sold out. You
chose to do that fine, you choose to do that,
fine against batherin. Never mind, but then don't moan when

(01:30:39):
people see it and refuse to be silent. And if
you can't see what you're doing, then you are not
even half as bright as you think you are. There's
a lot of use in that sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
I have to have you got a timestat there. Do
you know what time at the day he was writing there?

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Oh no, I don't actually, so it could be any
time of the day. I've seen him tweeting it like
four in the morning and stuff like that before.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Like, yeah, early.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
I was wondering if it was like a really really
late night tweet.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Yeah, potentially. I mean it's an early it's usually an
early morning thing. It's not like a poor Joseph Watson
where for some reason he's up at like six in
the morning frantically tweeting out in all caps letters and
apparently gnashing his teeth. It's it's more sort of you know,
he's an old gentleman, isn't he, So I suppose he
gets up he might just be a morning person, you know.

(01:31:36):
But uh, but yeah, you know, it's this is the thing,
this is the fallout that we're seeing like you know,
and it's it's real consequences of Alex Jones saying out essentially.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
I think, actually, like he's going to be a pensionary.
Do you think he draws his pension? Oh yeah, probably
what a hypocrite, right well.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Probably yeah, But I mean I don't think that's the
the the only thing that that David is hypocritical about, like,
you know, no, but it just made me think, actually
he's a pensioner.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
That's why he gets up early, say.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Because he gives out, well, he gives out the impression
that he lives very humbly, and he may well live
very humble. He's got this little flat on the Isle
of y. But you know, he earns a huge amount
of money for Iconic and from his book sales. Like
we could probably check his company out on the company's

(01:32:36):
house actually see what their their returns are and see
how much money they make. I bet would fucking be
a pull we might do that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
I did look up a few years back and what
was he You must be remember how much it was?
All I remember was the significant thing was that he
signed it all over to Gareth for the pandemic hit.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
Yeah, and then he signed it signed. But this thing
is I think retiring.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
I wonder if Gareth and Jamie are in charge of
Iconic then. But Iconic, I mean they do have outlays
and stuff like that. But I remember when I briefly
worked for them and they were pushing the h it's
a subscription only thing. I remember them hitting a threshold
where I worked out. I was like, fuck, that's half
a million quid that they made like off subscriptions alone.

(01:33:27):
And you know, they weren't the highest paying of organizations.
Certain people complained to me that they had to chase
them up for money and stuff like that. I got paid.
I bought a Crombie coat with it. I love that
coats for your series, Yeah, yeah, I said, I did
a series. I basically woul turned up for like a week,

(01:33:47):
didn't I and like filmed like one or two episodes
a day. Just stood with with Richard Willett and he
filmed it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
And then sounds like Joe Quali.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
He does a little bit. He's sure, and he's blonde,
he's got a beard. He's a nice guy actually, but
he's very very sort of enamored with the things. And obviously,
like the second that I mentioned anything about COVID and
stuff like that. They all blocked me, didn't they? When
I said on COVID is fucking real? What you idiots?
They all blocked me on the most social media. So

(01:34:24):
I've got no idea what's going after them or I
don't really care if I'm brutally honest other than with this.
But you know, but they said, this infighting between Alex
and David is David's I mean, he's really not really
want to speak because he's done so many things that

(01:34:45):
lack integrity as well. But like he's absolutely right in this,
and as we've seen, that's why Alex is complaining because
people are getting pissed off with him pointing out he's
to set out. But you know, if you do certain things,
you have to face certain consequences. I'm afraid somebody else
that was facing consequences is a person that I used

(01:35:09):
to know that we've actually done quite a lot of
stuff about on this particular podcast is Richard D.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Hall.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Now some people may know who Richard D. Hall is,
theorist that has an online show called rich Planet, and
he's looked at all sorts of things UFOs, the Madelin
McCown case, I used to go on there quite a
lot when I was into conspiracy. So Richard was essentially
the personally got to be started in this industry or
in that industry by saying you're good at this, you

(01:35:40):
should do this, and blah blah blah, and got me
doing talks and appearing on his show and stuff like that.
As he sort of went on like he got whack
here and whacky in his release. And one of the
things that I never agreed with him on, which we've
done a series on, is the Manchester bombing. Now I
highly recommend that people go and listen to our two

(01:36:01):
series on that. We've got one that explains his theory
and why we think it's incorrect, and then we've got
another series called The Downfall of Richard D. Haut, and
that covers how Richard came to believe his theory and
what happened with the court case and what the actual
consequences were. Now, the consequences essentially were that he was

(01:36:23):
found guilty of harassment and he was ordered to pay
punitive damages of forty five thousand pounds, but he also
had costs that were approaching three hundred thousand pounds prior
to that. Do you know how much he actually raised? Like,

(01:36:43):
I was surprised by this because he did like put
out a gofundmein say like I'm being stifled the truth,
blah blah blah, I'm taking flat because I'm over the target.
And his fans actually clubbed together and raised.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Quite a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Do you I have a guest at the ballpark area.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
I don't know about twenty grand, maybe one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Hundred and thirty thousand pounds?

Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
However, all of that, barring about four hundred quid, went
on his costs. That's how much it cost him just
to get to trial. That was paying for his solicitors
and whatever he needed to do, so that that one
hundred and thirty thousand pounds was swallowed up. Now, obviously

(01:37:29):
that's good or good for him that he didn't have
to go into his pocket, but my god, that's an
incredible amount of money. He was then found liable and he,
as I say, it was nearly three hundred thousand pounds.
Since then, he's also launched an appeal, which will cost

(01:37:50):
him more money. If I was really really cynical, I
would suggest that he's been conned somewhat there by his lawyer. Yeah,
wellhy not, I think we've got grounds for an appeal.
There's no grounds for appeal. If if you if you
go listen to our downfall of Richard d Haak case,
listen to what the judge said that the problem was

(01:38:13):
that he presented no evidence that passed the threshold of
being actual evidence. It was just all pure speculation on
his part with nothing to support it that would would
be considered evidence at a court of law. So there
is this sort of idea that he wasn't he was
barred from showing his evidence. That's strictly not true. He

(01:38:35):
just the evidence. I mean, I'll put it this way.
He said that the Manchester bombing didn't happen, that it
was a big hoax. So two people that were caught
up in the case, Martin and Eve Hibbert, Eve, who
was a teenager at the time. He actually tried to
film her at her address to prove that she was
faking her injuries. They took him to court and their

(01:38:58):
case was that he'd arrest them and lied about them
through a series of films and this book, and his
defense was going to be, no, I didn't because you're
faking those injuries because you were never at Manchester, and
Manchester never happened, and I don't even believe that you
are father and daughter. And this was shown to be

(01:39:19):
absolute nonsense obviously, and that is why his case failed.
You have to bring new evidence in order to be
able to lodge an appeal. And I suspect that basically
his lawyer's just trying to grift some more money off
of him. Basically anyway, he still owes this over three

(01:39:41):
hundred thousand pounds. I believe it will be by now.
And he sent out an email and I'm still on
his mailing list so from years ago, and it said
I would be attending an online High Court hearing relation
to the legal action I'm involved with. The hearing is
to decide whether a charging order will be placed on

(01:40:02):
my property. I will be representing myself. The hearing is
on Thursday, the twentieth February at three thirty pm. If
you wish to wash to watch the hearing, you will
need to provide a name and an email address, which
I will then send to the court. You will then
be provided with a link which will enable you to
watch the hearing live. Normal court rules apply. Send your name,

(01:40:25):
an email address to blah blah blah blah blah, thank
you Richard. Now what this means is that they really
really want their money. What they're doing is they're setting
they will probably set up a payment plan. But this
really does mean that Richard could lose his home. This
is a charging order is a court order that attaches

(01:40:47):
a debt to a debtor's property. It's a secured debt
that can be used to recover money owed if the
property is sold or remortgaged. And this is from Citizens' Advice.
A court order means that you have to either make
regular payments to your creditor or pay off the whole
debt by a certain date. When your creditor as a

(01:41:08):
court order against you, they can apply for another court
order that secures the debt against your home or other
property you own, and this is called a charging order.
A charging order is very serious. You could lose your
home if you don't pay back what you own. After
your creditor gets a charging order, they can usually apply
to the court for another order to force you to

(01:41:29):
sell your home and this is called an order for sale.
And the long and the short of it is that
basically like because that's an asset that Richard's got that
they might say. The securing the debt, as far as
my understanding goes, means that you can't sell it and
run off. If you sell it, that money has to

(01:41:50):
go towards the debt and if you don't make payments
back on a regular basis. Depending on what the court decides,
they could basically say, well, going to make you have
to sell your house, then you have to sell your
house and pay us some money. How much I honestly
don't know because I've never been in a situation like this.

(01:42:13):
But it's just it's just crazy, isn't it that it's
come to this like that Richard Richard gone out to
make a name for himself. Richard had gone out to
basically this is we've said this before, like, Okay, this
is not to defend Richard, this is to just to
explain Alex Jones with Sandy Cook knew that he was lying.

(01:42:36):
He just knew that he would get clicks and a
certain amount of respect in certain fields for peddling the
idea that no one doubted died at Sandy Hook. Richard
genuinely believes that nobody died at Manchester which is a
fucking stupid belief, but it is a sincere belief. Now,

(01:42:57):
you could also make the argument that you might have
forced himself to believe that because of the persecution that
he is getting from the authorities. But it's very, very silly.
But this is the sad and tragic thing is that
he genuinely thought he was uncovering a crime. He genuinely
thought that he was trying to do some good for

(01:43:17):
the world. Now he hasn't. He's done some terrible, terrible harm,
and since that he has only consistently doubled down and
doubled down and doubled down, And for that he's lost
my sympathy in regards to that aspect of it. I

(01:43:40):
still still it's more complicated than just saying he's he's
a ship, although he has done very, very very shitty things,
but then went back into the corner. You just wouldn't
wouldn't face up to these things and wouldn't admit it,
And he took any criticism of himself as proof proof
that he was being persecuted. And the only reason he's

(01:44:01):
being persecuted because it's correct, and it goes round and
round and round, and it's tragic state of affairs that
people can get themselves into when they get hooked up
on any belief structure too much that you can lose
family members, you can lose friends, you can lose people
not just because of like conspiracy theories, but because of

(01:44:24):
political leanings, because of things like that. The way that
this is bleeding between those two genres, shall we say
millioneres fields at the minute, that's where it's getting really
tragic and despicable. People are taking advantage of people who
are looking for answers, and it's just, you know, it's

(01:44:47):
an absolutely shit state of affairs, basically

Speaker 4 (01:45:01):
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