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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Are you ready to untangle from your past, recover from heartbreak,
and revive your life. This is Soul CPR with your
host and Papa Yode. We've all had soul crushing experiences
and lost ourselves and our pain, but there is a
way out. On this podcast, Amazon best selling author, award
winning life coach and advice columnist and Papa Yode helps
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us navigate the path from heartbreak to healing. So now
please welcome the host of Soul CPR and Papa Yode.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hello, everyone, and thank you for tuning in today. I'm
really excited because not only is it a new month
if you're watching in real time or listening in real time,
but I'm going to learn something new today and maybe
you are too. I'm excited to introduce you to my
guests and also to her wellness practice. Today's guest is
ingrat Power. Her journey to wellness and healing began in
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twenty twelve when she discovered jin shinjitsu, and if I'm
not saying that correctly, she will correct me. It's also
known as JSJ for shore, which makes it a lot
easier for me. It's an ancient Japanese practice that harmonizes
the body's energy, and we're going to actually learn some
today that we can do on ourselves. She was drawn
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to this because of its profound impact on physical and
emotional well being. She immersed herself into learning JSJ to
help manage her own health challenges and support others on
their healing journeys. With a business degree in marketing. In
over thirty years experience both working for corporations and as
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an independent marketing consultant at Eyepower Marketing Ingrid made the
shift to holistic wellness and founded Energy Flow and through
energy Flow first dedicated JSJ sessions aimed at relieving stress,
alleviating pain, and promoting self care among her clients. I
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can't wait to hear more about that. As a certified
massage therapist with advanced training in data healing and two
levels of Reiki, Ingrid integrates a deep knowledge of energy
work into her JSJ practice. When she's not working with
clients or doing JSJ on herself, she enjoys skiing, sailing,
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and spending time with her family and her dog Lucky. Ingrid,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Thank you Anne so much for having me. It's a
real pleasure.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh of course, now as I understand it, Lucky cannot
be in the room with you.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Because no, unfortunately, I brought him to my parents' house
and he wasn't happy about that. But I just couldn't
take the chance to be a squirrel of something that
would catch his attention.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
All right, well, I have to take that risk every day.
My dog Ode is right here with me and I
have to take that risk because of his separation anxiety.
But I try to wear him out first, and he
is snoring on the couch behind us. Hopefully he'll stay
that way. But anyway, before we get started into today's topic,
I like to talk about how my guests and I
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know one another. And you and I share a wonderful,
lovely friend, Pat Tramly, and I was visiting her over
the summer and she is such a proponent of everyone
and what they're doing, and really she's a connector, I
would say, and she said, I had to meet you,
and she made it happen and called you over. And
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Pat is a student empowerment facilitator and coach at Beaconsfield
High School. She's always doing things. She also made a
life transition or career transition. But I was so happy
that she brought us together to meet this summer and
here we are today.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I am too. Yeah, Pat and I both met when
we were working in the pharmaceutical industry, and she's really
helped me on my journey. She introduced me to meditation,
to fed healing, and some light workers. So she's been
a real inspiration for me. So yes, I'm very lucky
to have her as a friend.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Wonder if I am too, I am as well well.
Before we get into JSJ and all that, and I'm
very excited because I want to learn so much about it.
It's something you discovered along the way. And like you said,
you were in pharmaceuticals before you got into this holistic path.
At university, you chose to study business in marketing and
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followed that career path. Did you always know that's what
you wanted to do when you were a little girl.
Did she say I'm going to grow up and be
a marketer? What was it that drove you down that path?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
When I was seventeen, my mom had my youngest sister
and she didn't have enough oxytion when she was born,
and so she had some learning disabilities, and so I
was fascinated with how the brain develops and I was
interested in psychology and then I took a business I
took a marketing class, and I was like, this is
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like the psychology of business. And I loved sort of
the understanding of consumer behavior and the importance of communication.
And my dad was a big influence on me, and
he's had his own business and so probably was a
big influence for me to go into marketing. So I
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started as a product manager, so I would promote different products.
One of my earlier jobs was working promoting perfume, and
I felt like, you know, the communication was, you know,
if you wear this perfume, your life will be perfect.
You know, you'll be beautiful, you'll fall in love, and
it just felt very hollow for me, and so I
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started gravitating towards the healthcare industry because anything you said
about your products had to be backed up by scientific proof.
You know, you couldn't just make things up. So and
the products were also designed to help people feel better.
So I think that was sort of that was my start,
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and yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I love that, and I love how you defined marketing
the psychology kind of behind business, and what a what
a great graspman I did not know that part of
your story and what led you into that that by
all measures, you were quite successful in the corporate world,
in business, in marketing. Would you say, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I mean it makes I think if I was a man,
you'd have, you know, be extremely confident to say, yes,
I was very, very successful. But as a woman, I
find it feels very funny to say that. But yes,
I was promoted in several positions. And then when I
was a business consultant up working in global marketing, which
is you know, quite I think considered a big accomplishment.
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So yeah, I worked on large product launches in Canada
for some big companies, international companies. So yeah, it was
I'm proud of what I accomplished. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Good, I like hearing that. So yeah, by all practical measures,
you were successful. With success sometimes comes extra demands, and
with extra demands sometimes comes what we call stresses. Right
when did you first notice that you might be stressed
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or facing overwhelmed or what some people might call burnout
or did you face any of that?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, I considered myself to be a perfectionist. I was
very determined, very passionate about my work. But that came
at a cost, So I had a sort of an
emotional intensity. I think I would describe it as by
putting such pressure to succeed or to get the results,
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I sort of I think I burned the inside out
of myself. So I probably ignored what my body was
telling me for a long time until I was thirty eight,
and it was two thousand and five, and I ended
up getting diagnosed with an inflammatory bowel disease called ulcerative colitis,
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and so I had to take a medical leave from
my job in order to get better. And so that
was a big wake up call.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I think, yeah, yeah, I think that a lot of people,
whether it's the corporate world or stay at home parents
or caregivers, become stressed out and it shows up in
their physiology. Right, there's a there's the body is the
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wake up call in some way in your diagnosis? Was
your wake up call? Perfectionism? We've talked about that on
this show before, and we've talked about how it can
be a benefit in some ways. How did perfectionism show
up as a benefit to you in your work? Could
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you do you have an example of how perfectionism helped
you be quote unquote successful in your career.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Well, I think because I was very driven to get results,
I ended up working really long hours. But at the
same time, like I remember, I started started a new
job and they said, okay, we're the company was more
it was in Toronto and they were sort of moving
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to Montreal, and so I had three months to sort
of do something before a national sales meeting, and so
I sort of buckled down and got the job done
and then the management was very impressed, and so then
they offered me to launch a product. Of course, it
normally would take a year in that company, but I
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had six months to do it, and so they felt like, oh,
she's up for the challenge and she wants to get
it done and don't say no. So you just go
for it and then you know, you kind of pay
for it later.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Okay. So your perfectionism led to this drive, which led to,
like you said, the results. You got it done, and
you got it done well, sometimes earth and sometimes early.
So yeah, you were able to meet these these maybe
unrealistic deadlines, but at a cost, as you said, and
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this led to your diagnosis. So what changed for you
once you had this diagnosis and you're on medical leave.
What changed or what did you change in your life?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, it probably took me quite a while till I think,
because in two thousand and five I was I had
the diagnosis, and then in two thousand and seven, so
it was two years later when a colleague recommended I
try reiki to help manage my stress. So, for me,
stress is my biggest trigger. I you know, this has
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taken years to figure out. I'd probably didn't realize it
right away. Diet and fatigue also affect me, but the
stress is my main trigger. And so you know I was.
I think I started doing things like meditation and yoga
and you know, different types of activities to try and
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help manage my stress and to take things a little
bit differently.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, okay, so you were still working after medical leave.
I take it you went back to work that you
started you started adopting stress management practices? Is really what
ch happened for you? Did you slow down at work
at all? Did you take on fewer projects? Did you
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learn boundaries for you know INGRID can do this INGERD
to make this happen.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I maybe a tiny bit, but probably not. I think
it was only in twenty twelve that like a switch
went off where I decided, I can't do this anymore.
I just I can't work for companies. I used to
get so emotionally involved in the organization succeeding or my
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products succeeding that if there was somebody who was sort
of I felt was you know, it wasn't moving as
fast as I was, it used to frustrate me a lot.
Or if I felt somebody was in combat, you know,
it wasn't as it just used to. I'm sure I
used to rant all the time about about my work
and now you think, like, oh my gosh, you know,
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for people to have to listen to me at that
point in my life.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
But.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So so yes, in twenty twelve, I just decided I
need to get out of here, and so I quit
my job and I said, I'm going to do marketing consulting.
And I had no clients lined up, but luckily I
had savings. I didn't have any children as dependents, and
so I have the freedom to be able to do
what I felt I needed to do. So I started
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my own, as you mentioned, my own marketing consulting business.
And it was funny. The twenty twelve was also the
first year I took sorry the first time I took
my jin chinjitsu course, so it was it was quite
and I think I met Pat that year as well.
So twenty twelve was like a really big year for me.
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And yeah, I was just on a whim. I found
out there was a course in Woodstock, New York. I
booked an ABNB and I signed up for the course
and drove down Like it was it was just funny,
like you didn't have to weigh the pros and cons.
You just felt like, this is what I need to do.
Same thing with quitting my job. I'm just going to
go for it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Wow. So twenty twelve was like this big pivot year.
It was really a lot of change happened in that year,
and you had to be open to change for that
to happen. There's a lot of courage because a lot
of people want to quit their job, right they say,
take this job and you know, walk out. And it
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sounds like some of your perfectionist tendencies were led to
your frustration because other people and you know whatever, not
not maybe meeting your expectations or holding you back and
whatever led to some of your I got to get
out of here because that was part of your stress
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and going and taking that chance to open your own
firm and to do and to continue working there, but
at the same time you're building this holistic side. At
the time, did you know that was going to become
a business for you or did you think that was
just to help yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, it started as a hobby, but I always sort
of felt like people would say, oh, well, want you know,
you could rent space as a marketing consultant. You can
do this, And I just felt, no, I'm going to
keep it small and simple because it feels like I'm
not going to do this forever. But it's like a
stepping stone. So it allowed me to have sort of
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a buffer between me and the intensity of working within
the organization. So I was very focused on delivering good result,
you know, the good results still, but I didn't have
to be in the office all the time. I didn't
have to get caught up in the you know, the
cough water cooler talk sort of thing of what was
going on, or the gossip or this or that. It
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just gave me a distance to be able to just
and it gave me a flexibility because I didn't have
to work nine to five or I was working more
than nine to five, but I could then do other
things like if I wanted to go on a course
or do something. It just gave me a lot more
flexibility to start building this other interest of doing the
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health and wellness.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And it's time for our first commercial break that I want.
Do you want to know this and we can talk
about it when we come back. Did you know as
you were pursuing health and wellness that that was going
to take over from your marketing business? Did become your
business or was that really just to help yourself at
the time.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I think I knew something was coming with it, but
I don't know for sure exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, yeah, okay, interesting, Well, it is time for our
first commercial break. Don't go far. We'll be back with
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Everyone, I'm an Papa Yodi and you are tuned into
sol CPR and today my guest is Ingrid Power. She
was a corporate marketing professional who became a holistic healer
and we are learning how she went and quit that
job in the corporate world, opened her own independent marketing
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and now she's pursuing learning these different holistic therapies. I
want to go back to this because you had tried reiki,
you had tried different things to help yourself. When did
you start becoming certified in holistic therapies? Was this back
when you were still working in the corporate world.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
It was yeah, in two thousand and seven. I did
levels one and two of reiki and I have to
tell you. I consider myself still to be a very
practical person, and I still remember the first time I
felt energy moving through my body and it completely freaked
me out, like it was the wildest feeling for me.
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So I think that was probably you know, I don't know.
I guess it just made me feel a real connection
to it, that this was something that I don't know,
kind of like you know, all of a sudden, like
you kind of wake up to a completely different side
of you or or I guess part of you that
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that's sort of asleep. And it was very motivating to
feel that. So that was something.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, and you had worked in the pharmaceutical industry and
I imagine when you first got your diagnosis there were
medications prescribed. Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
And I still take medications, But it was interesting. My
reiki master was she also had an inflammatory bowel disease
and she didn't have to take any medication to manage
her illness, which I was super impressed with. So I
thought like, if she can do it, then this is
I'm still taking medication today, so it's my goal. At
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one day I'll get there. And so, yes, it was
just very motivating. So I did two levels of reiki.
But then when I was introduced to jinin jitsu, I
just it really resonated with me. And people say, okay,
well you drank the kool aid and you you know,
sort of, but I think maybe the differences between the two,
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or maybe I should explain I guess a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So, yeah, familiar. I never heard of gencien jitsu till
I met you. How did you first hear about it?
Was it through your reiki? My master?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, it was actually my Irish cousin. She was living
in Boulder, Colorado, and she was introduced Actually, actually, excuse me,
I'm sorry. Our aunt introduced her. My aunt, who lives
in South Africa, introduced her to it, and then she
she we didn't exchange. I gave her a reiki session
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and she gave me a jingchin jitsu session, and I
just sort of I love the fact that jinin jitsu
really promotes practicing on yourself. So every day my husband
thinks I'm obsessed with it because I just I can't
get enough of doing it. I'm I'm I'm doing it
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right now while I'm like holding my fingers while we're talking.
And I'll explain a little bit more to you, I
think afterwards. But so they're similar, but they're different so.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
To us because some people may not know what reiki
is either, So do please explain both practices to us.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
So they have a lot of they're both alternative healing arts,
they both originate from Japan. They're both of them. Their
aim is to unblock the body's energy and so that
you feel better, both on an emotional as well as
on a physical level. But I'd say the differences are
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like when I study and I have limited experience of
reikia because I just did two levels. But you, I
was taught to do sort of the same thing all
the time to each client, and often your hands just
sort of float above the client's body and you don't
actually touch the client's body. And well, as with jin
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jiu jitsu, you are jumper cabling the body's energy. So
the concept is is that energy is moving through our
body in different circulatory pathways, and because of of stress,
because of getting stuck in a particular attitude like anger
or grief or fear, the energy gets blocked. And then
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it's when it gets blocked you have disease. So I'm
not sort of giving you my energy I'm What I
do is I listen to your energetic pulse and your wrists,
and depending on what I hear, I place my hands
in specific locations on your body. You're fully clothed on
a lying on your back on a massage table, and
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I placed my hands in specific locations in sequences of
we call them flows, and it just I'm like directing
the traffic so that I unblock the energy and you
feel better.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Wow, I actually understood that. I was like, ging, it's
going to be so complicated, but it's really not so.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So if reiki you your hands never touch the client,
they're above the body and the energy field. Is that right?
And in gen j so you're actually touching the body
to help I get the energy flow through the body.
Both are healing practices. Thank you for that, because I
actually get it and I had. Yeah, I have experienced reiki,
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but I've never experienced jinin jitsu. And I'll get you
to show us some things in a little bit. So
when you experienced this with your your cousin whom you
exchanged sessions with, is that what inspired you then to
go take the course that you found in I believe
you said Woodstock, you drove down from Montreal and then
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all what tell us what happened next?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So so with jinin jitsu, it's very customized to the
client's needs. And they really, as I think I mentioned,
they really promote that you're practicing on yourself to sort
of supplement the continuation of harmonizing your body's energy. So
I think that's what I really liked. You know, when
you know, when you try and instead of just giving
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somebody food, you teach them how to fish so they
can feed themselves. That was the principle I think that
I really loved about jin chin jitsu. Yeah, I just
I just kept kind of I have to tell you,
I don't know. Woodstock tends to be sort of a
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hippie sort of area of Vermont excuse me, of New York,
and I didn't feel I felt very out of place
when I went to do a lot of my classes there.
There weren't any that were given in Canada near where
I was living, and you know, they would talk about
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astrology or numerology, or people had experience with traditional Chinese medicine,
and here I was this corporate marketer, and some people,
if they knew what I was what I was still
working at. They would probably think I was from the
dark side, you know. So it was I felt a
little bit like a fish out of wall. But for
some reason, I just kept continuing on my path and
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doing the courses.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's wonderful. So during this time of transition, well, you're
you're you've left the corporate world, You're working on your
own terms. You open yourself to these holistic practices. And
you said before that you kind of knew that you
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might be moving towards this as perhaps maybe a business
for yourself. What were you learning about yourself during this time?
If anything, One of.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
The first things I learned was that opportunities started opening
up to me, which one of them was as as
a marketing consultant. I was offered to go work in
global marketing in Switzerland, so I ended up living there
for years. I had the time of my life traveling
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all over Europe. And it had been my ambition to
work in global marketing years before, when I was still
working for the companies, before i'd made the transition to
work for myself, and then I realized that when I
got the opportunity, They're like, oh, well, could you work
for us? Full time and we would love and I realized, no,
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this is this is not my dream anymore, this is
not what I want to do. And so it felt
that when you're in your like I think I was
in my head so much of the time as a marketer,
and then when you when I made this transition to
being more about following my heart and doing what's right here,
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life seemed a lot easier. So I should have probably
mentioned I meant to mention that during the time of
my you know, burnout sort of diagnosis, is that my
personal life wasn't going very well either. So I was
thirty eight years old and I was desperate to have
a baby of my own, and I was dating someone
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who had two children already and didn't want to have
any other children. And I felt like I had this
deadline of forty years old to have a baby because
the clock is taking so both on a professional side
as I'm working too much, not listening to my body,
and then on a personal side of not being happy.
That probably was a big combination to my burnout or
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sort of you know what happened with my body. So
going back to being things falling into place and life
being easier in twenty nineteen, I met the man that's
now my husband, and I'm happily married. We got married
last year, So so things just felt feels life is
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easier when you follow your heart and not do what
you think you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Actually, yeah, yeah, those are some big stressors that you
mentioned that you just added into your story. We're going
to tell you, yeah that your your body, our body
will get us the message, right. It will definitely give
us the message and the wake up college you mentioned before.
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There was so much more going on in your life,
your personal life. Obviously, people talk about work life balance
psycholl itist life balance because work's just part of it.
You know, we're we're one life. But opportunities open. They
certainly did. And I love that you didn't let the
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them seduce you back in to work full time, because
it's very flattering to know that that that they admire
your work and they want you, but to not be
seduced back into what was not your dream away from
what was so I love that. But do you believe
that with the transition that you've made now that you
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still have a role in the corporate world.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I think I think because of my background and how
I can relate to stressed out corporate people because I
understand they're under a lot of pressure that I would
like to Next year, I'm planning to do lunch and learn,
sort of do some demonstrations and start bringing because I
think a lot of companies are interested in providing that
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wellness education to help prevention for their employees, and so
I'm I'm planning on doing that to try and and
I think because I'm pretty down to earth practical approach,
I think that people can you know, will relate to
me explaining it, try and explain it in an easy
way that's not kind of woohoo and way out there.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You know, absolutely, And I think you've got the personal
story that also makes you very relatable, so I know
that you have a role in the corporate world just
as you just describe. It is time for our second break.
So we're going to come back and we're going to
talk some more, and I'm going to get you to
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actually give us some takeaways, some JSJ that we can
do ourselves. You said you were doing some when we
couldn't see your hands, So I can't wait to learn
what to do and how to do it. So don't
go far and we will be back with ingrid and
more sol CPR.
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Speaker 2 (34:36):
Welcome back. I'm Anne Papaoti today with my guests Ingrid Power,
and we're talking about some holistic therapies. But before we
get there, something that came up for me, Ingrid, is
that I have clients who that around forty, they want
to quit their jobs, they want to do something different,
(34:56):
They leave relationships, and they call it midlife crisis. Sometimes
we call it midlife Sometimes maybe it's midlife awakening. So
talk to me a little bit about that. What comes
up for you when I say that.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Well, I sort of don't consider myself to be a
very patient person. And I was speaking to somebody, I
guess who's very an intuitive person. And I was saying
to her, like, why did it take me so long
to like find my way? Why why didn't I you know,
why didn't this happen sooner? Why did I have to
(35:32):
be almost you know, late forties to figure this out?
And she said to me, everything happens for a reason.
And then I wrote my first blog, and I realized
that I've chosen a very healing art that's not well known,
and yet here I have all this marketing experience, this
(35:55):
this marketing, these marketing skills. So now I feel that
I'm to bring jin chin jitsu to the masses to
be able to teach people how to help themselves. And
so everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
There you go, and jing chin jitsu, I imagine, has
proven benefits, like you were saying was important to you
when you went into the pharmaceuticals and away from the perfume. Right,
So you've and you've seen it work, You've had it
work on you I imagine. So I'm excited now for
(36:31):
you to share with our audience because if I understand
it right when I was reading some of your information
on your website, that it's something that can easily be
done on our selves. It can be done on animals,
it can be done on babies. It does. It can
be done in spite of or in combination with any
kind of medication. It's safe, right, What else can you
(36:53):
tell us about it?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yes, it's safe for any age group. It's safe no
matter what your physical our situation is. It's very adaptable.
So I'd like to explain to you a little bit
about your fingers. I got to make sure my hand
lines uprit of my face. Sorry, So there we go.
(37:16):
That's easier. So the thumb is there's an attitude associated
with each digit. So the thumb is associated with worried.
So when you think about when a baby comes into
the world, they're looking for a sense of security. They
could be worried, so they suck their thumb. So, if
you think about it, we have this innate instinct to
(37:40):
heal our body or heal our you know, to balance
our emotions. But as we grow up, we forget So
if you're feeling worried or a little insecure, then hold
your thumb. It's great for any kind of stomach ailments.
The next finger is your index finger. And sorry, I'm
(38:02):
having a hard time with the camera with the index
If you think about when you're pointing at somebody or
someone's pointing at you, there's there's a sense of fear,
there is accusations. So the index finger represents fear. Okay,
just by just by holding you can just wrap one
hand around the opposite index finger and and feel and
(38:27):
if you feel us a sort of a strong pulsation,
you want to wait until that pulsation subsides and goes away,
and then you can move on to the next finger.
So now, and guess what the middle finger represents, which.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, I would say anger or hate or yeah. Okay,
So there's a lot on today. It is election day
in the United States for presidential elections. We got a
lot of that today.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
So I heard in one of my study groups, which
I love this saying, it's they say, grip it, don't
flip it. So you're feeling angry, hold your real finger
and that's going to help. Now, the ring finger, I
associate I have my wedding rings on my ring finger.
(39:18):
I read online that this finger was chosen for wedding
rings because of they thought there was a vein that
ran to your heart. So if you think of a
broken heart, then it's sadness so or grief, So you'd
want to hold the ring finger if you're feeling any
kind of sadness. And then at the beginning of the show,
(39:42):
I was trying to do a great job, so I
was holding my little finger. So if you think of
someone who's drinking tea and trying to look posh, they're
trying too hard. So you want to hold your middle
fing excuse me your little finger.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You're pinky.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Order if you're feeling you're you could be crying on
the inside but pretending to be happy on the outside,
or just trying too hard. So as a perfectionist working
in my earlier marketing career, it would have been probably
very helpful for me to know this to hold my
little finger. That would have helped me a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, So I gave this this sort of little trip
tips to Pat and she was feeling nauseous in the
car one day and she just held her fingers one
after another and then she told me ingrate it worked.
I'm like, yes, so if you if you can't fall asleep,
you can hold one finger one at a time and
(40:42):
just try and focus on your breathing and feel is
there a particular finger that needs attention. And it's interesting
because now I find the more I've been working on
myself with jin chin jitsu, I'll have a sense that like,
oh I need to hold I need to hold this
finger right now. You know, so without thinking about it,
(41:05):
you can just you have a you have a sense.
So and it was great about it. Yeah, you could
be in a you could be in a meeting, you
can be having a coffee with somebody nobody knows. Your
hands are in your lap and you're holding one finger
at a time. You are harmonizing your body's energy.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
So wow. Yeah, And you said hold until you don't
feel the strong pulse before you move to the next finger.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
You're not really going to feel a strong pulsation for
every finger, but if you do, like when I earlier
I felt my little thing little finger, there was a
strong pulsation because I was like, I want to do
well on this pet podcast, and so I need that
particular finger needed holding.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
So yeah, i'd see that is so interesting. Well, I
love that. So it's good for sleep, it's good apparently
for nausea. You said that Pat was feeling nauseous. Not
just what else is it good for?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It's it's good for everything. The way chin chin jitsu
works is that there are twenty six safety energy locks.
Where I was sort of mentioning that where we the
practitioner places their hand on your body, and so there
are twenty six safety energy locks on each side. And
then we have five fingers, so there are five safety
(42:27):
energy locks associated with each finger, and then the twenty
sixth one, so five times five is twenty five. The
last one is in the palm of your hand, so
you can also put your palms together if that particular
safety energyock. So you know, so if you have a
problem with your knee, you could hold your index finger
(42:49):
like because you know, there's it gets a little more
technical now, but so that's why it actually helps everything.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Wow, that's amazing. Obviously gets more complicated than what you're
able to demonstrate for us today, but what a great
having each digit associated with a particular emotion. And I
think everybody can remember grip it don't flip it were
the middle thing er. I love that. I think I
(43:20):
read that reminds you. I think you shared this with Pat.
She shared it with her students who really latched onto
that one. So and I can understand why. So because
it's hands on, I imagine that this is a practice
that is in person only. So this is not something
(43:42):
you could offer virtually. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (43:45):
So I typically do hands on in person sessions, but
it is possible to do treatments from a distance. So yeah,
I haven't started doing that yet. I've just been talking
to a study group about and how to do that.
So it is possible, just as it is with reiki. Yeah,
(44:10):
I think it might be a little more effective or
powerful if you're doing it in person, but it still
works from a distance.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay. So, because I know a lot of energy healing
can be done online and so that people because I've
not heard of this, so I don't know that there's
a lot of JSJ practitioners available, and I want our
listeners to be able to reach out to you if
they can have a session online. It sounds like you're
working towards that availability for yourself, but definitely our local
(44:42):
montrealers can reach out to you for a session, and
we'll talk more about how to get in touch with
you soon. So when we're thinking of other types of
JSJ that we could do on ourselves, does anything else
come to mind that you have a quick tip for
us other than using our hands.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Sure, So if you're feeling anxious, you can place both
hands under you sort of cross your arms and put
one hand under each armpit and I sort of stick
your thumbs out, and that is really great for anxiety.
It's also great for cleaning out your lymphatic system. So
(45:25):
you can just sort of like giving yourself a hug.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, So if you just sort of cozy and so
that that can really that helps that. If you let's
say you bang, you bang your knee, you could put
your right hand on where it hurts and then your
(45:53):
left hand you make a cross, so right makes it right.
And so let's say I banged my thigh, I could
I could stand up.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I guess let's see if you can see me. So
let's say my hand parts right here.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I would put my right hand and then I would
put my left hand over on top to make a cross,
and then that would help with that area. Wherever there's
there's pain and sometimes like it's not a magic bullet,
so it's not going to be like thirty seconds and
it's going to be you know, right as rain. But
I've twisted my ankle and I've done that hold it
(46:29):
for fifteen minutes or so twenty minutes and there was
no bruising, there was no swelling. People are like, oh,
do you need ice. I'm like, no, I don't need ice.
I'm just going to work on myself and so that
can help.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Love.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I love the simplicity and I love the little rinds
the thing and right makes it right. It's easy to
remember and hold on to. And I think that we
forget that we are energy. That everything is energy, and
it's about balance. It's in life, in everything, and that
getting our energy right and getting it flowing and unstuck.
(47:09):
So whether it's a mindset that's stuck or an energy
flow in our body that's stuck, everything is connected in
that way. So I love that you can recognize there's
pain and to touch to which is actually shifting energy.
You're shifting energy, right, So amazing. I love all of this.
(47:30):
It is time for our final break and we're going
to come back. We're gonna talk about key takeaways that
you have for the audience, how people can get in
touch with you and learn more about gin hint soup,
don't go far. We'll be back with more sl CPR.
Set it right right, Okay, good because I'm holding my pinky.
(47:51):
All right, We'll be back in just a moment.
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Speaker 2 (49:56):
Welcome back everyone. We are in the final segment of
today's show, and Ingrid, I wanted to ask you because
I remember reading that self care is a big component
that you have clients practice when they are experiencing jin
chin jitsu sessions with you, and I preach self care,
(50:18):
So tell me about how this is a part of
jin chinjitsu.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
So, I guess for self care, I was thinking about
sort of you know, obviously you have to it's important
for you to eat well and and to sleep well,
exercise that type of that type of thing. But I
guess I was specifically thinking about, you know, doing jin
hinjitsu as self care, so on yourself. So I volunteer
(50:45):
at a local cancer wellness center, and you know, there's
there's information that I give clients to do, like before
radiation or chemotherapy treatments that can help for them to
still sort of absorb the medicaid but for for its
for their benefit, but to let go of all the
side effects, you know. So I'm not sure if I
(51:07):
answered your question. Absolutely you did, right. J J can
now be part of people's toolkits self care toolkits, they
can add it to other things that they do. So
I love that and and I admire you for volunteering
there and helping people with their cancer treatments in this way.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
That's a beautiful thing. So how can people get in
touch with you? What are your what are your contacts?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
So if if they go to my website at www.
Energy Flow with an I, so it's E N E
R G I F l O dot com forward slash
free hyphen gift, I have a demonstration of how to
(51:59):
do some more self care. It's a little bit more complicated.
It's called the main Central Vertical Harmonizing Energy. So the
person to developed this really didn't come up with snappy
marketing names for it, but we call it the main
Central for short. And so I have a video demonstrating
how to do the exercise and it's like the foundation
(52:20):
for harmonizing your body's energy. It's recommended you do it
every day and I explain everything. So if you go
to my website, there's a free gift there as well.
You can reach me on Instagram at energyflow dot energy
flow or I'm also on LinkedIn if you look for
ingrid Power, energy Flow and on Facebook as well on
(52:42):
energy flow.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, wonderful, So that will be in the show notes
that everybody that free gift use it. There's your self
care ticket right there right awesome. And then if people
are local and want to work with you versus they're
not local de Montreal, talk to those two options. Sure.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
So if you sign up for my newsletter, I'm going
to be having some jinjitsu self help classes online, so
you don't have to be local to benefit from from that.
And then if you're local, I would love to see
you to give you Yeah, and next time you come
up to Montreal, I'll have to give you a treatment
as well. That would be great. And so there's information
(53:26):
on my website about what to expect and the benefits
that you know, we've already talked about quite a few
of them, but yeah, there's a lot more information there
on my website.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Wonderful. I look forward to experiencing that. I will take
you up on that a wholeheartedly. And then also listeners,
if you work for a company and they promote well
being in some way, then Ingrid is someone that maybe
your HR department could consider bringing in for one of
(53:57):
these type of workshops. I think it's amazing of everyone
some skills and to promote wellness and balance in the workplace. Now, Ingrid,
if you had a key takeaway for our audience today,
what would it be?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
I think it would be to follow your heart and
not get too caught up in your head and that
everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, I love that I had written down the same
thing for my takeaway for all your heart, not you,
but we're in.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I think the body would be another good thing too,
because your body is sending you, you know, messages, and
we just often are just too caught up with life
to pay attention to what our body is telling us.
So I think that would be another good message.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
Absolutely, And I love that when you your story is
such a great example of following your heart and how
opportunities open because the courage to do that then and
I use the word intuition in our show description, which
is really that following your heart and believing in yourself
(55:09):
to take that step to go out and become a consultant,
and how these things opened up for you, and how
everything prepared you for that. So all the work you did,
all the education that you had, and the experience prepared
you to be able to say yes to those things
and to have those offers come your way, and to
recognize love when it was in front of you.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
So I just appreciate your being here today and sharing
your story with my audience. And I know that people
had lots to take away from today. And of course
another great takeaway is to grip it and not flip it.
It's always a great takeaway.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
I just want to add one more thing. If on
my website there's a link to the jin hin jitsu,
I think it's mind body spirit I always get it
mixed up website where you can find local jinjitsu therapists
in the United States and as well so in other area.
(56:12):
So that would be a good reference if you're looking
for a local practitioner. If you be able to find
it there.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
That is wonderful. I appreciate your sharing that. Well, it
is time for us to wrap up for today and
I can just keep talking to you and learn more
and more of it. We will have to do that
off air. So as this episode of SOULCPR comes to
a closed, listeners remember that healing is not a linear journey,
but it's a process, a profound transformation and If today's
(56:40):
message resonated with you, then please share this episode with
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(57:02):
know your thoughts, your stories, and the topics you'd like
to hear more about, and we're gonna bring those to
you in feature episodes. So until next time, may you
find vulnerability and courage in your journey. Now, as I
always like to say, and I'm gonna hold I'm trying
to side which finger I'm gonna hold. I'm gonna hold
(57:24):
my Okay, I'm gonna hold my worry finger. I'm gonna
hold my thumb Until next time, Free, deeply, love openly,
and live sulfilly. Thank you again, Ingrid for being here.
Good day everyone.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
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