April 15, 2025 • 57 mins
In this deeply heartfelt episode of Soul CPR, I'm joined by Wholistic Practitioner, Energy Healer, and Transformational Coach Denice Buryn, whose mission is rooted in love, connection, and empowering women to come home to themselves.
Together, we explore what it means to honor both the visible and invisible scars we carry—those etched on the body and those held in the heart. Denice shares her journey of guiding women to reconnect with their intuition, set healthy boundaries, and awaken the radiant truth that lives within them.
We dive into the mind-body-soul-spirit connection as a foundation for true healing and transformation, and how our energy—what we carry and emit—can either keep us stuck or become a force for profound change.
This conversation is a reminder that our scars, both seen and unseen, are not signs of weakness—but sacred evidence of our growth, our survival, and our power to heal. Denice's personal and powerful story of overcoming will inspire and awaken you to what's possible in your own life.
If you've ever struggled to see the beauty in your own journey, this episode will gently guide you back to the light within.
Connect with Denice:
https://facebook.com/happyhandshealing
https://instagram.com/happyhandswholistichealing
https://deniceburyn.com
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Together, we explore what it means to honor both the visible and invisible scars we carry—those etched on the body and those held in the heart. Denice shares her journey of guiding women to reconnect with their intuition, set healthy boundaries, and awaken the radiant truth that lives within them.
We dive into the mind-body-soul-spirit connection as a foundation for true healing and transformation, and how our energy—what we carry and emit—can either keep us stuck or become a force for profound change.
This conversation is a reminder that our scars, both seen and unseen, are not signs of weakness—but sacred evidence of our growth, our survival, and our power to heal. Denice's personal and powerful story of overcoming will inspire and awaken you to what's possible in your own life.
If you've ever struggled to see the beauty in your own journey, this episode will gently guide you back to the light within.
Connect with Denice:
https://facebook.com/happyhandshealing
https://instagram.com/happyhandswholistichealing
https://deniceburyn.com
Register for Event:
https://series.deniceburyn.com/ann
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Are you ready to untangle from your past, recover from heartbreak,
and revive your life. This is Soul CPR with your
host and Papa Yode. We've all had soul crushing experiences
and lost ourselves in our pain, but there is a
way out. On this podcast, Amazon best selling author, award
winning life coach and advice columnist and Papa Yode helps
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us navigate the path from heartbreak to healing. So now
please welcome the host of Soul CPR and Papa Yode.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello everyone, have you ever felt like you lost to
you are, felt broken, even overwhelmed, and just didn't know
where you were on life's path at some point or another.
If so, you are not alone. I've been there myself
and so has my guest, and today I am thrilled
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to introduce you to truly a radiant soul. Denise has
spent the last decade guiding women back home to themselves
who have found themselves lost on life's path at some point.
She's done this through her work as a massage therapist,
as an energy healer, and a holistic practitioner. Now, she
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believes that complete health begins with the sacred connection between
the mind the body, the spirit, and the soul, and
she believes that these four components forms the four cornerstones
a vibrant and joyful living. Now, in the past year,
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Denise has followed, i'd say, a deeper calling from her soul,
and she has now begun a practice of one on
one and group coaching. She helps women connect with their
deeper intuition and understand how their bodies actually speak to
them so that they can then heal themselves. Right, and
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we're going to talk more about this and at the
same time create deeper, meaningful transformations throughout every aspect of
their life and at the same time honor their energy,
learn all about their values and create boundaries in their
lives to enjoy more rewarding relationships throughout the fullness of
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their life. Now, her mission is all about love and
connection and empowerment and reminding women of the radiant power
within and guiding them to discover their purpose, their passion,
and their true bliss. So, without further delay, Denise, Welcome
to Soul CPR. I'm so honored to have you here
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with me today.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Thank you so much. Just tickle think to have this
on her to spend more time chatting with you and
I just want to thank you for this blessing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh absolutely, Denise, and I should reveal to everyone that
we are new friends that we have met working on
a project together that is Denise's brainchild, and she spends
so much effort, time and energy into creating what is
called a roadmap to well a women's roadmap to complete help.
(03:29):
I didn't want to misspeak that, and where she has
gathered a multitude of speakers and I am one of those,
and we're going to tell people more about that at
the end of the show, where they can sign up
for that and be a part of that, and it's
completely free, right Denise, That's right, Yeah, yeah, So I'm
can encourage everyone to take advantage of that and to
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have that as a resource in their back pocket to
help them on their own journeys. So with that, we
have had a lot of fun. But today we're flipping
seats and I get to interview Denise here on SOLTIEPR. So, Denise,
we were talking about people losing their way, losing themselves
in life's journey, and I know a lot about your story,
(04:16):
but our listeners do not. So let's talk a little
bit about your life journey there's always something, a trigger,
a turning point where if we think back on our
journeys when we lost our way, So tell us about
yours when that happened. What were their circumstances and what
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was the trajectory? Where did you go? Sure?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And I'd love to. I truly, when I look back
on my story, it's almost like I can't believe that
this is actually I lived. This, this was my life.
It feels like it was so long ago. But I
grew up in a happy Christian home like many people,
and I learned a lot of things, you know, about
love and forgiveness, and you know, there was really good
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pillar type teachings that I learned. But I was also
told what to think, what to believe, who to become,
you know, And I kind of had this Fairydale, fairy
tale life idea that you know, you go to school
and then you find a man and you get married
and you have kids and you live happily ever after.
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You know, that was just kind of, you know, where
I thought my life was going. And you know, by
the time I hit sixteen and had my first boyfriend,
I also had my first heartbreak, and I realized that
that dream was not actually true, and it left me
very severely depressed, even questioning my existence, which I know
a lot of people can relate to when you go
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through you know, a deep heart break. My next relationships
after that, because I hadn't really healed or done anything,
they were full of trauma. There was you know, emotional abuse,
mental abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse. I was just you know, broken,
I was I felt lost, I felt alone, and I
was ashamed. I you know, I had no support system.
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I'd moved away from any friends that I'd known in
the church, and and I just allowed myself to be
put in these situations where abuse just it just seemed
to take over my life and I was I was
empty inside. I felt very very hollow. At that time,
I also had two very close people pass away, and
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that really put me into a spiral of grief. You know,
I was already feeling lost and ashamed and didn't have
a support team, and through that, I also didn't have
anybody to reach out to, and this grief just it
overtook me, and I didn't know how to reach out
or to even look for getting help, or where to
even look. You know, I just felt like nobody understood
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what I was going through and the pain was just
so bad. I started looking for ways to numb that pain,
which you know, it's a very similar story for a
lot of people. Unfortunately, it let me down a very
dark path. I got into a party scene where drugs
were very prevalent, and I kind of jumped both feet
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into this new experience. And you know, that life is
a very it's a hard life, it's a dark life.
And it didn't leave me feeling any better about myself.
In fact, it left me feeling even worse because I
had even more terrible experiences happened. You know, I experienced
rape through that period of time, and just this overarching
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darkness that I just couldn't seem to get over or
to shake it was. It was really really hard. At
one point, I you know, I ended up. I had
my second drug overdose, I guess, and I was really
left feeling like my only options in life were to
go to jail or end up in jail, to end
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up dead, or you know what was my other option?
You know, if I wanted to live, I had to
do something. I had to change something. So, you know,
the goodness of a friend bought me a bus ticket
and I had forty six cents in my pocket and
a suitcase, and I hopped on that bus and I
moved twelve hours away to this place that seemed amazing
and happy. I moved to Victoria, BC, on the Island,
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and you know, I didn't have any friends, I didn't
have a job. I had, like, guess, an acquaintance that
said I could stay on her couch for you know,
a period of a short time until I found work
and stuff, and so I took that chance. And I still,
you know, I was recovering. I was getting out of
the drugs, but you know, there's a process obviously that
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you have to go through when you're letting go of
any kind of an addiction like that. And just as
I kind of felt like, yeah, maybe life was turning around,
you know, six months later, I end up pregnant. So
now I'm twenty three years old, working at seven eleven
making a minimum wage, you know, living in this crappy apartment,
part my language, and now I have this life growing
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inside me. And it really was the beginning of realizing that,
you know, now now you seriously have to change your
life because some you know, somebody is depending on you,
and so you know, I did move into a period
of trying to better my life, but I was in
a very toxic relationship. There was again emotional abuse, mental abuse,
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and the dark cycle just you know, never seemed to
get better. My finances were hard and it was just
really it was a struggle. I finally ended up, you know,
breaking off that relationship and I moved out, so that
now I was a single parent with an eighteen year
old and much many more struggles come along with being
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a single parent and raising a young child. And I
was doing fairly well, I guess, at a job that
I had, but money just it wasn't working out, and
I found myself in debt, basically with no money, eating
out of the food bank, and with no real end
in sight to things getting better. So I ended up
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shifting my life and I moved a province away to
start over, to start over again, but that meant leaving
the support system that I had built up. You know,
I had built friends in this new job. They were loving,
they were kind, and I was starting to see that
maybe there was hope, but it was tough. It was
hard to start over again without a support system, and
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so once again I fell into alcohol you know, this
colping mechanism that I always seemed to reach for. I
was depressed, you know, I had no friends in this
new place I had. I had just struggle, it just
felt like, and so I started to drink to mask
again that hollowness, and it just it never seemed to stop.
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It never seemed to get better. It was just struggle
after struggle, struggle. I ended up working on a farm
where I spent most of my time outside in nature,
and this was probably one of the best things for me,
because I began to feel slightly alive again, you know,
being outside in nature, being outside in the elements. I
just I loved that job.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But the boss and myself had a very toxic relationship,
and without really understanding energy or how I take on
other people's energy, I began to take on a lot
of the stress that he was under as an.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Overachieving, overworking person, and I just I began to really
really suffer with anxiety really bad. I tried to mask
it with alcohol, tried to you know, numb myself so
that I wasn't, you know, so open to this really
strong energy. And I was feeling so much guilt over
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you know, missing out on my daughter's childhood because I
was a single mom and I had to work all
the time, and I was just the over riding guilt
of you know, missing out and having to rely on
my mom to always come and you know watch my
kid during the busy seasons on the farm and stuff.
And it was just, you know, I was just suffering.
Everything was just a struggle, and you know, I had
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no support system or didn't really know how to go
look for one, right. I didn't know where to or
even what I needed to try and help. And so unfortunately,
my drinking led me to getting a DUI. I lost
my driver's license and my job. Both of my jobs
depended on me being able to drive. I lived in
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a rural area. You know, I was fifteen minutes away
from the closest grocery store, So losing my driver's license
was basically the end of the world that I could
see it. Now I can't even go to the grocery store.
Now I can't even drive my kid to school. Now
what am I going to do? My parents come stay
with me to be able to you know, drive us
around and kind of take care of us. And it
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was just like this never ending cycle of of suffering.
I ended up with a sleep disorder. I had to
go on medication because I couldn't sleep, and I was,
you know, getting over exhausted, and it was just a
really really tough time for me that you know, I
didn't I didn't see a way out. I didn't see
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how this was I could ever possibly get better. You
know they say that, you know, time heals all things,
and time when you have, you know, when you lose
your license, all you have is time. You gotta wait
till you can, you know, get your license back. You
gotta wait till you can kind of get back into
life again. And I just felt like an utter failure.
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I was so embarrassed, I was so ashamed, and I
just couldn't believe that this was my life. You know, this,
this is it? Is this all there was? Like you know,
all those years ago when I chose to live and
I moved away, Like for what you know, is this
is this really all there is to life? I just
didn't see.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Let's go back and talk about the things, because I
imagine a lot of people are going been there yes
or feel that now. So thinking back to you know,
growing up in the church and all of that and
kind of having that pillar foundation. And then you mentioned
I never healed from that first heartbreak and then this
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series of events in your life and never healing, always coping,
finding a way to cope, not a healthy way to cope,
And I think that's what people relate to. Same thing
happened to me. If mine wasn't hard drugs, mine was food,
you know, and I got it, became overweight, and mine
was alcohol and I overdrank, which then I became an underachiever.
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I went from the overture to underachiever. So there was
everybody finds a way to cope they think is coping
is unhealthy, right, And some have greater ramifications than others,
but all were isolating, all have gi shame, all these
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things attached. As you're saying, you didn't know who to
ask or how to ask. And I think sometimes those
of us who have that church background may let shame
hold us back from reaching out for help. For sure,
I thank you, and.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I've talked about that before.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But as you move forward, I think the theme here
is these ongoing struggles from never having healed the initial
wound and then just moving into the next thing and
the next thing, and the next thing, but sounds like
when you got to this dui, it's sort of the
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end of the road. Now, all you had was time,
and time can help us heal if we cooperate with time,
and it is time for our first commercial break and
come back. We're gonna find out what you did with
that time, and how some of these wounds started turning
into some wisdom for you, and what happened next.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
So don't go far.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
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Speaker 2 (18:13):
Welcome back everyone. You are listening to Soul cpu are
healing out loud. I'm an Papaotti today with my guests
Denise Spurn and we are talking about Denise's very traumatic
but also inspirational story. And Denise, you were just sharing
before the break about how you had gotten.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
To this place.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Now with the DUI truly into the road, you couldn't
get to either of your jobs and you are left
with time. What did you do with this time?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, I, honestly, I uh. I sat down with a
ball of whiskey and a cantfire one night and I said,
what the l are you doing? What are you doing
with your life? And what do you do now? You
have literally used up all of your options. What are
you going to do? And I decided that maybe it
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was time to go back to school, it was time
to do something different. A friend of mine, actually my
massage therapist, had mentioned it, you know, maybe a couple
times a month earlier, that you know, maybe you should
look at doing massage therapy school, you'd be really good
at it. And so in this moment of you know,
midnight fire and myself, I thought, yeah, well let's try it.
Let's see, I'll get a student loan, I'll make it work.
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I'll go to school. And so I chose to take
a holistic practitioner training as opposed to just massage therapy,
and I'm so glad that I did. Through this massage.
Through the holistic practitioner training, I began to learn about
traditional Chinese medicine. I began to learn about energy for
the first time. I began to learn about how we
hold emotions in the body. I began to learn all
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of these ancient techniques, these ancient wisdoms and medicines that
you know, i'd never heard of even to help. And
so through study, you know, it was a two year program,
so time right over time, I began to learn all
of these these techniques and I began to implement them.
In this time, I began to work on other people.
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I kind of started a you know, a part time
job alongside that very toxic farm job. But I started
to work on people and I started to work with
their energy. I was massaging them we were working on,
you know, the physical body, but also I was getting
into understanding the energy, and I started to see shifts
in my clients, like really amazing things, and it really
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cemented the belief in me that you know, there's something
to this, there's there's something to all of this energy healing,
and you know, if they're having such great results, you know,
maybe I could have such great results. And so I
started to lean into some of the practices and which
was all well and good, but I didn't lean hard
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on and I didn't make enough healthy choices soon enough
to where you know, my physical body still wasn't recovering.
I was starting to clear out some of the energy,
but my physical body began to have reactions and I
started to become very sick, physically sick, to a point
where you know, I couldn't even get out of bed
in the morning without throwing up. It was just literally
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I felt like I was dying on the inside. Looking
back now, I feel as if it was all of
that trauma. It was all of everything that I had
stuffed down for so long. It was coming to the
surface to be healed. But in this process, it was
it was very, very hard and so after you know,
a month or so of just feeling like I was
dying on the inside, I woke up and I one
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morning and I decided that's it, Like it's time. So
I attended a poop seminar. Actually, I learned about gut health.
I would recommend a poop seminar to everybody, just learning
about your gut. Yeah. I learned about food. I learned about,
you know, taking hip hopes, statement of food be thy,
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medicine and medicine be thy food. I really lead into that.
I stopped eating anything that was poisonous, you know, poisonous
to my blood type. I started, you know, drinking a
lot of water. I started meditating every day. I started
learning about energy clearings and how important it was to
clear my energy on a daily basis, especially because I
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was working with other people and I was in a
very toxic job.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I began to all of a sudden understand, Okay, when
I show up to work and he's in a bad mood,
and now I'm in a bad mood, this isn't actually
my mood. This is his bad mood that I've picked up.
And I started to, you know, all the pieces began
to come together because I was opening myself up to
all of these ancient teachings and just trying something right.
If if something didn't work or it didn't resonate, I
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try something else. I got into you know skills. I
absolutely love crystals there. They're such great boosts or you know,
helping to keep your energy clear. And you know, I
just started doing one thing at a time. I took
supplements to help you build my health, and the weight
that I was carrying, you know, it literally just melted
off me. I didn't start a big exercise program. I
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really just started eating to support my body, to give
it good health and just support, I guess. And it
started to reflect through my daily meditation practice. I began
to connect with my soul for the first time ever
ever in my life, and I began to feel good.
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I began to feel like I was coming alive again
in a way that I had never ever experienced in
my life. I began to talk kindly to myself instead
of all the other things that we typically say to
ourselves as women sometimes. And I just began to believe
that I actually have this power to change my life
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situation like I have I can do this right every
little change I made, every little step forward, it just
gave me the belief that I don't have to stay
stuck in this reality that I'm in. And I finally
quit that job. I finally quit that toxic job, and
I went just full time into my healing business. And
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by allowing myself to embrace my spiritual side, it opened
up this whole new realm of possibilities. I dove into,
you know, what are my beliefs?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Growing up in the church, You're told what to believe,
You're told what to think, you're told about how the
world works. And none of that resonated with me at all.
But I also didn't know what I actually believed, right,
I didn't know who I was still yet at this point,
and so I just I went down the rabbit hole
and I, you know, I dove into what are my
beliefs and what do I actually believe? Is this my
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belief or is this the belief that I grew up
being told? Does this resonate with me? Yeah? No, no,
this is not my belief. And I just became very
clear on what my were, what my values were, what
was truly important to me in my life. You know,
my relationship with my daughter teenager by this time, started
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to change, and my reactions started to change. And so
instead of you know, flying off the handle like I
used to when there was a lot of alcohol involved,
I began to have that pause, right, that beautiful pause
of where instead of jumping into reaction, you just take
a step back and you think, Okay, you know, let's
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just breathe here for a minute, Let's just breathe and
think about this. What's a loving way that I can
respond instead of just reacting. And so through all of
this mindfulness and the meditation practice and just coming back
to myself or coming to myself. I can't even say
that to myself because I don't think i'd ever really
been in myself, you know what I mean, Like, really, yeah,
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I do. Just I had never really known myself, and
I put myself really into solitude. I let go of
any toxic relationships, friendships, things, places. I just really leaned
into the acreage, my property that I lived on, and
it was so healing. It was in nature. There was
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trees all around, and I just leaned into this beautiful
place of healing and magic, and I began to finally
feel like I was coming alive, like I knew who
I was and it felt so good for the first
time in my life. Definitually love myself.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
That's innovation right there. Is it fair to say you
replaced your former coping mechanisms which weren't coping, were self
sabotaging behaviors. Is it fair to say your new coping.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Mechanism was just love? Just love, the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Way you would respond to your daughter, the way you
would respond to yourself, the way you approached life. Just
came from a place of understanding and love, understanding your
place in the world, who you are in the world, Yeah,
and everything. It sounds like you came back to what
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does love look like and sound like in this moment
to me, to them, to her, to him? And that
meant that made it easy to assess relationships of people, places,
and things right because people say it's hard to let go.
Not really not When you have such a criteria as
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you've set forth for yourself, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I love that. To check in how does this make
me feel? How does this person make me feel? Do
they make me feel good? Not? Really? Okay? Well, then
how important should they really be in your life? Right?
Does this situation does this place? Does it make me
feel good? Not really? Well, maybe it's time to just
put this aside, right, Yeah, maybe I should lean more
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into things that do make me feel good, that make
me feel energized and joyful, not drained and sad or overwhelmed. Right.
Tapping into the feeling of how things make you feel
is an excellent guide to what is truly right for
you exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And I know you talk a lot about the body
will tell you, so tell us more about that. So
what is when when there's pain in the body, what
is that aligned with emotionally? Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Sure, So everything that you feel in your physical body
has already had happened in your energetic bodies. So the
way that your physical body talks to you through pain,
through inforammation, through illnesses, through disease, this is all a
manifestation of what you've been holding inside of your energetic body,
usually for quite some time. Because your intuition is going
(29:18):
to talk to you, You're gonna have little hints, You're
going to kind of be guided throughout the way when
something comes up, something maybe is stuck, maybe you're holding
on trapped emotions and you haven't quite dealt with something.
It just kind of stuffed it down like I did
for so many years. But when you stuff things down
and you don't deal with it right, eventually it starts
to manifest into something. And so if you don't clear
(29:40):
your energy, and if you're not aware of the emotions
and the experiences you're holding onto your physical body, the
matter of your body will eventually start to relate to
you and talk to you. Because if you can't hear
me energetically, you're gonna hear me physically. You're gonna hear
me when you know your knees are painful. You're gonna
hear me when your hips, You're going to hear me
(30:00):
when your back hurts. Right, So the physical body, it's
hard to talk to you to give you clues as
to what is going on energetically, because above all things,
you are an energetic being before you are ever a
physical being. Right, your soul has existed before you've been
in this physical body. It existed for quite some time.
(30:21):
So you are an energetic body before you're ever a
physical body. And so learning how to talk to the body,
just to say, any body, how are you doing today?
Are you feeling any pain? And then you know, close
your eyes and tap in and just see what hurts
in the body, and then you can go that one
step deeper and ask, okay, I hear you, thank you.
(30:45):
Is there something that I'm holding on to that's causing this? Right?
What can I do for you? What do you need
from me? What do I maybe need to release? What
do I need to clear? Is this even my own
issue or is this somebody else's issue?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's where the practice of daily energy clearings can really
start to help you get a better picture of what
is mine and what is not mine. Because those experiences
I had at the farm, nine times out of ten
that bad mood I was in it was not my
bad mood. I loved that job. I loved it, but
like that it could turn into a bad day and
(31:20):
a bad mood. But it wasn't mine. It was his,
and I didn't realize that time. The body will talk
to you, but you have to be open to listening.
You know, when ls Hey Pioneer right, she wrote the
You Can Heal Your Life book and in there she
has symptoms for so many physical issues inside the body,
(31:42):
and she has the energetic issue of what you're holding
on to what needs to be cleared in order to
heal that physical symptom that you're experiencing. So I always
recommend to all of my clients pick up that book,
get the Little Blue Book, pick your book right, and
just start talking to your.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, and it's always an a right Joe just has
an affirmation to go with it, which is very helpful.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, Yeah, start off love, Yeah exactly exactly that when
you start to love on yourself and you start to
appreciate everything your body does for you and and everything
about your day, you know, even if it's good or bad,
because I've had a lot of bad days. But when
you can just choose, when you choose that today, I'm
(32:35):
going to have a good day and it doesn't matter
what happens. I'm just going to have a good day today,
and I'm just going to let it be right. It
all comes down to how you're choosing to show up
for yourself and your life and inviting that love and
that forgiveness and that compassion in for yourself. Yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It is time for our second break, and we have
so much more to talk about and I could probably
talk to you for definitely, but anyway, Denny Stunt Go
Far Listeners will be back with more sol CPR.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Doctor RC will share extraordinary resources and services that promote
educational success as well as making a difference in the
lives of all social workers as well as the lives
of children, adolescents and teens of today. She will have
open discussions addressing many of the issues that we face
about our youth and how being employed in the uniquely
skilled profession of social work for over eighteen years has
(33:31):
taught invaluable lessons through her personal experiences. She will also
provide real life facts, examples, and personal stories that will
confirm that why serving as a child advocate is extremely
beneficial when addressing the needs of the whole child. Listen
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RC will provide thought provoking information that will empower, encourage
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(34:14):
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with Limitless Growth, published by I Universe, Hawkins reveals strategies
to help readers accomplish more. He believes the book can
coach them to greatness. Hawkins says that the best athletes
(34:38):
get to the top of their sport with the help
of coaches, mentors, and others. He shares guidance that helps
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Speaker 2 (35:11):
Welcome back everyone. This is SELCYPR, I'm Build Brake TV.
I'm and Papayotte today with my guest deneyse Spurn. So, Denise,
you talk about scars, those that are but visible on
the body and those that are invisible. Talk to me
a little bit about scars and your your thoughts around scars.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Absolutely so. Part of my training was learning how to
read the body, learning to see, you know, information, freckles,
marks on the body, birthmarks, scars, and they all tell
a story. And I know there's you know, a stigma
around with a lot of women about you know, say
stretch marks. Right, A lot of people feel ashamed by
(35:54):
these scars on their body. And to me, every scar
on the body tells a story and it it's nothing
to be ashamed of or to ever hate on about yourself. Right.
Our physical body is just this form that we are
(36:15):
moving through this human existence with, and and it is
just it is just a body. It means nothing about
who you are. So for those that carry physical scars
you know that people can see, I think they're just
absolutely beautiful because it just tells the story, you know,
kind of like I was here, right, I lived, I
(36:36):
lived my life, I was here. It's like those a Nuokschuk's,
you know, those rock structures that people will put up
with my goal places. I was here right. Well, your
scars show that you lived and you've experienced this human
this human life that you came here to to experience.
But there's also those unseen scars, those scars that people
(36:58):
don't see on the inside and experienced so many scars
through you know, the trauma, the abuse, the PTSD, the grief,
everything everything. It left such deep scars on the inside
that people couldn't see. I looked, you know, I was
a really good actress. I put on a really happy
face for a lot of people for a lot of years,
(37:20):
and nobody could even begin to guess that I was
hurting so bad on the inside. And I think a
lot of us carry those scars, those unseen scars that
you know, you might feel shame around, you might feel
embarrassed by, you might feel like unlovable because of these scars.
And one of my things, like one of my deepest
(37:43):
messages that I want all the women of the world
to hear, is that you are not your scars. You know,
they simply show you the life that you lived, but
it doesn't mean anything about you. And it doesn't mean
that you have to continue to live a life that
proves those scars right, Like, you can change anything about
(38:05):
your life. I did multiple times, and it's possible. You
just have to want to. You just have to have,
you know, an idea or a goal that is better,
even if it's only this much, that's better than you are, right,
and see learning how to really just embrace your perfect
(38:29):
body as it is, to stop to stop shaming it,
to stop blaming it, right, and just start living every
bit about yourself, the way that you look, the way
that you are. You are unique and you are perfect,
and that is beauty in itself. So I just love
teaching women how to find the in themselves because I
(38:53):
just think there needs to be more of it coming
back to love, right, it's all coming out of I'm
just teaching your body.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It does all come back to love. And I absolutely
love the way you express your philosophy about scars because
if we could just embrace the fact that our bodies
are vehicles right to take us through and that someone
used the and I've adopted this. They use the term
(39:26):
blessing scar, you know, when there's a scar that saved
your life for some for example, my melanoma scar, and
I'm like, yeah, that's a blessing scar.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm not going to cover it.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I proudly show it on my chest, right, So just
looking at these visible scars in that way, and then
all these invisible scars that may have shame and other
I don't know self blame, all these different connotations attached
to them to be able to process those differently and
(40:00):
to recognize that we can change the narrative of our story,
which will change how we feel and then change how
we show up in life for ourselves and others, coming
from that place of love. And we have to start
with self compassion before we can ever show up differently
for anyone else. But if we can start with self compassion,
(40:22):
it's going to really change how we experience life. And
I know you and I've talked before sometimes that wanting
to feel differently, we have to just give our selves
permission to want something different, give your self permission to
(40:43):
want it, and then want it and then take that
one little step, like you said, it can be that far,
just that one little action to go along with it,
whatever it may be. And looking at your life, so
many things were really big steps up. You know, you
cut out anything that was harmful to your bloodstreams, So
(41:06):
you quit alcohol when alcohol was a daily habit, right,
an intense habit, something that was so you were able
to just really make a decision. And I want everybody
listening to understand it starts with the decision. So give
yourself permission to make the decision to take the action,
(41:27):
whatever it may be, however big or small, so that
you can change your life moving on, because there's so
much I.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Want to talk to you about. So that's the scars.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What was the turning point or the decision for you?
Now you've got this thriving practice, you've learned so much
about the healing arts, and you've got this business built.
You've disconnected from toxicity in your life. You're healing yourself.
But now you've decided to go into one on one
(41:57):
coaching and group coaching. So what led to that transition
in your business?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah? For sure. So I had another really great blessing happen.
Actually I had. I had been single for a very
very very long time, basically since I left my daughter's
father back when she was eighteen months old. So I
had been singled very long time, and I got I
finally healed all of those hurts by me where I
(42:23):
was open to the idea of a relationship. And December
two thousand or twenty twenty one, I guess when we
moved into the age of Aquarius, I performed a sacred
ceremony for myself and I called in my soulmate. I
wrote out this ridiculously detailed two page description of what
(42:45):
my perfect partner would need to be and if this
perfect partner or something better existed out there. I was
open to the idea of stepping into a relationship for
the first time in a very, very long time. Four
months later, I took a different job and I met
my husband, and so I moved away from you know,
(43:10):
this home that I had, you know, created where I
had done all my healing and things, and I moved in.
You know, he was still my boyfriend at the time.
So moved in and I was working out of you know,
two different businesses. I was massaging and doing my energy
healing and all this. But I decided to rent out
my house because I was living here and you know,
my house was empty there. So I had this renter
(43:31):
move in and it was it was not a good experience.
She did not follow through with what she said she
would do in regards to keeping up the yard, keeping
the house clean, and just being mindful of somebody else's space. Right,
We've all had an experience of a poopy renter. I
had a really poopy renter and I didn't realize it.
(43:57):
I didn't realize it, but it was really affecting me. Energetically.
I was devastated that she was taking this beautiful place
that I had created and basically running it into the ground.
And anytime I had to go there for a check
in or you know, to fix the furnace or the
hot water tank, and I would walk into just this
disaster of a home. It was just like another knife
(44:21):
to the back. And I started without putting, you know,
the pieces together at the time, I started having these backspasms,
and you know, as a body worker and someone who
had been you know, a decade into working with the
body and understanding how it talks to you, you know,
I just kind of thought, oh, okay, it's probably time
to go to the chiropractor and massage. Get a massage,
(44:42):
right a massage therapist who you know struggles with going
to get a massage difficult, yes, But so I dove
into self care again because I know self care works,
and I went to massage, and I went to the
chiropractor regularly every two weeks for over three months, and
the axpasm just got worse and worse and worse, to
(45:02):
the point where it was gripping pain that would shoot
from my back, threw my lungs around my ribs and
I couldn't breathe. It was just the most excruciating pain.
So it got to the point where, you know, I
couldn't even work. I literally could not work on people
experiencing this spasm that just kind of started to be
an all day spasm. So I finally caved and I
(45:24):
had to go to the doctor. Like I had tried
all the things that I knew how to do as
a healer and as a practitioner, I'd even reached out
to a mentor of mine who was a healer, and
you know, I tried to get some advice there and
nothing was working. And so I finally had to go
to the doctor, and they sent me for X rays,
and you know, they gave me these really strong drugs
(45:44):
that I didn't want to take but ended up having to.
They you know, sent me up to go to phasotherapy,
like all of these things. And what ended up happening
was I evicted that that renter and I spent the
weekend cleaning up the disaster that she had left in
that house. And the very last thing I had to
do and clean up was the bathroom. And I was there,
(46:06):
I was in pain, like I had tears running down
my face. My body was hurt so bad from this
literal backspasm from morning to night. And I finished up
the bathroom, I took one last look around the house
and I was like, oh, it's over. It's done. Like
she is gone, she is out of my place, she's
(46:29):
out of my energy. And like that, my back spasm stopped.
I'm not joking, and it literally stopped in the moment.
I can honestly say I wasn't aware of it, but
thinking back now, I was like, yeah, actually it stopped.
I drove all the way home. We were heading on
(46:49):
a camping trip that weekend, and I was expecting to
just be in pain and suffering the entire time. I
didn't have a single back spasm and it has never
come back. And that it was like right energy. Before Form,
I had been holding on to this feeling of being
stabbed in the back because she told me she would
(47:10):
take care of my property, my baby, and she didn't.
She was literally stabbing me in the back and until
I went it is done, I forgive I'm over it.
I let it go. I suffered in my physical body.
My physical body was trying to tell me, you are
feeling stabbed in the back, and I didn't put the
pieces together until after. So this was when I realized
(47:33):
I need to I need to move out of just
working the physical body. I need people to understand that
your energy will always talk louder than your physical form,
and if you're not listening, your physical form will begin
to talk to you to let you know that there
is something that needs to be fixed. So that was
when I really just started to talk to my heart
(47:55):
and was like, you know, is this time? Is it
time to move on into something bigger? I just hot
this bigger calling and so that's how I ended up
creating a program, Nay Programs for Healing the mind, the soul,
and the spirit.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
That's amazing and what a great testimony to that you
have with that story. Well, we are up for our
third and final break, and when we come back, we're
going to talk about how you now work with people
and how people can sign up for this amazing.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Speaker series you've created. So don't go far.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
We'll be back with more with Denise and FULCPR.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Doctor RC will share extraordinary resources and services that promote
educational success as well as making a difference in the
lives of all social workers. As well as the lives
of children, adolescents and teens of today. She will have
open discussions addressing many of the issues that we face
about our youth and how being employed in the uniquely
skilled profession of social work for over eighteen years has
(49:02):
taught invaluable lessons through her personal experiences. She will also
provide real life facts, examples, and personal stories that will
confirm that why serving as a child advocate is extremely
beneficial when addressing the needs of the whole child. Listen
Live to Dare to Soar Saturday's ten am Eastern on
the BBM Global Network and tune in radio as Doctor
(49:24):
RC will provide thought provoking information that will empower, encourage
and strengthen students, families and communities across our nation. You
can also visit her at soarwith Katie dot Com. Author,
radio show host and coach John M. Hawkins reveals strategies
(49:45):
to help gain perspective, build confidence, find clarity, achieve goals.
John M. Hawkins' new book Coached to Greatness Unlock Your
Full Potential with Limitless Growth, published by I Universe, Hawkins
reveal strategies to help readers accomplish more. He believes the
book can coach them to greatness. Hawkins says that the
(50:07):
best athletes get to the top of their sport with
the help of coaches, mentors, and others. He shares guidance
that helps readers reflect on what motivates them. We discover
and assess their core values, philosophies and competencies, find settings
that allow them to be the most productive, and track
their progress towards accomplishing goals. Listen to John Hawkins My
(50:30):
Strategy Saturdays one pm Eastern on the BBM Global Network
and tune in radio.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
And we are back and Denise, I am going to
ask you if you had a key message that you
would leave with our audience today for a takeaway, what
would it be.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
That's probably the toughest question you've asked me all day,
because I have so many, but I think the biggest
he would be to start seeing yourself as a beautiful being.
Start recognizing that it doesn't matter what has happened to
you in your past, in your past lives, none of
(51:20):
that matters. All that matters is what you choose for
yourself going forward. Every day that you wake up is
a blessing in disguise, one that you may not even
understand yet, but I promise you that it is a
blessing that you are here. There is a reason you
are here. There's a reason I'm still here. I never
thought that after my second overdose, didn't ever think I'd
still be here. But I'm here, and there's a reason
(51:42):
I'm here. I'm here to share my story to help
other women overcome the difficulties that they have lived in
their lives, and to know that there is hope. There
absolutely is hope. You can heal your life, you can
trust in your ability to heal. You can learn to
love yourself, you can teach yourself to love yourself, you
can accept yourself, and you can find lasting piece in
(52:04):
a spiritual connection.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I love that, and I think my takeaway that I
would add to that would be that there is wisdom
in every wound, for sure, and sometimes you just want
to sit with it time. And sometimes that time is
forced upon you, as yours was, and sometimes you may
have to choose to sit with that time and listen
(52:28):
and connect with your higher consciousness, which is your intuition,
and allow it to come to you. So I thank
you for that, Denise, So tell us about this speaker
series that you've created that all of our audience can
sign up for and benefit from.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Absolutely. So I have created a fourteen day free, free
online series where there's two to three speaker interviews being
released released every day over the fourteen days. And the
overarching message is about healing and bringing balance back to
the mind, the body, the soul, the spirit. So this
is a woman's roadmap to complete health. Yeah, and it's
(53:13):
about trusting your ability to heal, embracing your perfect body
as is, and feeling lasting piece from spiritual connection. So
you can go to https colon Forward Slash Forward Slash
Series which is s E R I E S Dot,
Denise Spurrin, d E n I c E b U
(53:35):
r y N Forward Slash and A and and I
do believe THEYVI and show notes as well. But you
can go there. You can sign up for this free event.
And I have thirty one amazing speakers, including Ann who
have have graciously gifted them gifted us with their wisdom,
their stories, their tips, their advice, and it's just it's
(53:59):
become this beautiful creation full of high vibracial energy. And
if you are anywhere on your journey or any of
anything that I have said today resonates, then trust me,
you want to be part of this series. It is
definitely going to transform the way you see yourself, the
way you feel about yourself, and it's it's really just
(54:19):
it's been a creation from the deepest part of my heart.
So I hope you guys enjoy it and come check
us out.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Thank you so much, Denise. I know I'm going to
be talking about self love after toxic love, so I
know that will appeal to some and I think a
lot of us have free giveaways as well, like I've
created this whoopsie which way on the camera, No, that's
the way, other way dance helping me out love guide.
(54:51):
That will be a giveaway there on when you sign
up for the event. So Denise, thank you so much,
and I I apologize for mis pronouncing your last name,
Dennise Burn. Thank you for being with me today on
sel CR and for sharing your Wounds to Wisdom.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
Story with my audience. I'm so very grateful.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And as we come to the conclusion of today's episode,
I want to remind all of our listeners that healing
is not a linear journey.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Is at Denise.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
It is a process, right, It's a process of profound
transformation as sky curves and winding roads, and sometimes we
fall off a cliff to get there, but it healings spirals.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's one way to say it. But if today's episode
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her Facebook, her her website and more. All Right, so
thank you for listening, and until next time, may you
find strength in your vulnerability and courage in your journey.
(56:24):
Breathe deeply, love openly, and live soulfully.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
Good to everyone.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
This has been.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello everyone, have you ever felt like you lost to
you are, felt broken, even overwhelmed, and just didn't know
where you were on life's path at some point or another.
If so, you are not alone. I've been there myself
and so has my guest, and today I am thrilled
(01:03):
to introduce you to truly a radiant soul. Denise has
spent the last decade guiding women back home to themselves
who have found themselves lost on life's path at some point.
She's done this through her work as a massage therapist,
as an energy healer, and a holistic practitioner. Now, she
(01:26):
believes that complete health begins with the sacred connection between
the mind the body, the spirit, and the soul, and
she believes that these four components forms the four cornerstones
a vibrant and joyful living. Now, in the past year,
(01:48):
Denise has followed, i'd say, a deeper calling from her soul,
and she has now begun a practice of one on
one and group coaching. She helps women connect with their
deeper intuition and understand how their bodies actually speak to
them so that they can then heal themselves. Right, and
(02:11):
we're going to talk more about this and at the
same time create deeper, meaningful transformations throughout every aspect of
their life and at the same time honor their energy,
learn all about their values and create boundaries in their
lives to enjoy more rewarding relationships throughout the fullness of
(02:36):
their life. Now, her mission is all about love and
connection and empowerment and reminding women of the radiant power
within and guiding them to discover their purpose, their passion,
and their true bliss. So, without further delay, Denise, Welcome
to Soul CPR. I'm so honored to have you here
(02:56):
with me today.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Thank you so much. Just tickle think to have this
on her to spend more time chatting with you and
I just want to thank you for this blessing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh absolutely, Denise, and I should reveal to everyone that
we are new friends that we have met working on
a project together that is Denise's brainchild, and she spends
so much effort, time and energy into creating what is
called a roadmap to well a women's roadmap to complete help.
(03:29):
I didn't want to misspeak that, and where she has
gathered a multitude of speakers and I am one of those,
and we're going to tell people more about that at
the end of the show, where they can sign up
for that and be a part of that, and it's
completely free, right Denise, That's right, Yeah, yeah, So I'm
can encourage everyone to take advantage of that and to
(03:52):
have that as a resource in their back pocket to
help them on their own journeys. So with that, we
have had a lot of fun. But today we're flipping
seats and I get to interview Denise here on SOLTIEPR. So, Denise,
we were talking about people losing their way, losing themselves
in life's journey, and I know a lot about your story,
(04:16):
but our listeners do not. So let's talk a little
bit about your life journey there's always something, a trigger,
a turning point where if we think back on our
journeys when we lost our way, So tell us about
yours when that happened. What were their circumstances and what
(04:37):
was the trajectory? Where did you go? Sure?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And I'd love to. I truly, when I look back
on my story, it's almost like I can't believe that
this is actually I lived. This, this was my life.
It feels like it was so long ago. But I
grew up in a happy Christian home like many people,
and I learned a lot of things, you know, about
love and forgiveness, and you know, there was really good
(05:04):
pillar type teachings that I learned. But I was also
told what to think, what to believe, who to become,
you know, And I kind of had this Fairydale, fairy
tale life idea that you know, you go to school
and then you find a man and you get married
and you have kids and you live happily ever after.
(05:25):
You know, that was just kind of, you know, where
I thought my life was going. And you know, by
the time I hit sixteen and had my first boyfriend,
I also had my first heartbreak, and I realized that
that dream was not actually true, and it left me
very severely depressed, even questioning my existence, which I know
a lot of people can relate to when you go
(05:45):
through you know, a deep heart break. My next relationships
after that, because I hadn't really healed or done anything,
they were full of trauma. There was you know, emotional abuse,
mental abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse. I was just you know, broken,
I was I felt lost, I felt alone, and I
was ashamed. I you know, I had no support system.
(06:06):
I'd moved away from any friends that I'd known in
the church, and and I just allowed myself to be
put in these situations where abuse just it just seemed
to take over my life and I was I was
empty inside. I felt very very hollow. At that time,
I also had two very close people pass away, and
(06:29):
that really put me into a spiral of grief. You know,
I was already feeling lost and ashamed and didn't have
a support team, and through that, I also didn't have
anybody to reach out to, and this grief just it
overtook me, and I didn't know how to reach out
or to even look for getting help, or where to
even look. You know, I just felt like nobody understood
(06:51):
what I was going through and the pain was just
so bad. I started looking for ways to numb that pain,
which you know, it's a very similar story for a
lot of people. Unfortunately, it let me down a very
dark path. I got into a party scene where drugs
were very prevalent, and I kind of jumped both feet
(07:12):
into this new experience. And you know, that life is
a very it's a hard life, it's a dark life.
And it didn't leave me feeling any better about myself.
In fact, it left me feeling even worse because I
had even more terrible experiences happened. You know, I experienced
rape through that period of time, and just this overarching
(07:34):
darkness that I just couldn't seem to get over or
to shake it was. It was really really hard. At
one point, I you know, I ended up. I had
my second drug overdose, I guess, and I was really
left feeling like my only options in life were to
go to jail or end up in jail, to end
(07:55):
up dead, or you know what was my other option?
You know, if I wanted to live, I had to
do something. I had to change something. So, you know,
the goodness of a friend bought me a bus ticket
and I had forty six cents in my pocket and
a suitcase, and I hopped on that bus and I
moved twelve hours away to this place that seemed amazing
and happy. I moved to Victoria, BC, on the Island,
(08:18):
and you know, I didn't have any friends, I didn't
have a job. I had, like, guess, an acquaintance that
said I could stay on her couch for you know,
a period of a short time until I found work
and stuff, and so I took that chance. And I still,
you know, I was recovering. I was getting out of
the drugs, but you know, there's a process obviously that
(08:40):
you have to go through when you're letting go of
any kind of an addiction like that. And just as
I kind of felt like, yeah, maybe life was turning around,
you know, six months later, I end up pregnant. So
now I'm twenty three years old, working at seven eleven
making a minimum wage, you know, living in this crappy apartment,
part my language, and now I have this life growing
(09:04):
inside me. And it really was the beginning of realizing that,
you know, now now you seriously have to change your
life because some you know, somebody is depending on you,
and so you know, I did move into a period
of trying to better my life, but I was in
a very toxic relationship. There was again emotional abuse, mental abuse,
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and the dark cycle just you know, never seemed to
get better. My finances were hard and it was just
really it was a struggle. I finally ended up, you know,
breaking off that relationship and I moved out, so that
now I was a single parent with an eighteen year
old and much many more struggles come along with being
(09:49):
a single parent and raising a young child. And I
was doing fairly well, I guess, at a job that
I had, but money just it wasn't working out, and
I found myself in debt, basically with no money, eating
out of the food bank, and with no real end
in sight to things getting better. So I ended up
(10:12):
shifting my life and I moved a province away to
start over, to start over again, but that meant leaving
the support system that I had built up. You know,
I had built friends in this new job. They were loving,
they were kind, and I was starting to see that
maybe there was hope, but it was tough. It was
hard to start over again without a support system, and
(10:34):
so once again I fell into alcohol you know, this
colping mechanism that I always seemed to reach for. I
was depressed, you know, I had no friends in this
new place I had. I had just struggle, it just
felt like, and so I started to drink to mask
again that hollowness, and it just it never seemed to stop.
(10:58):
It never seemed to get better. It was just struggle
after struggle, struggle. I ended up working on a farm
where I spent most of my time outside in nature,
and this was probably one of the best things for me,
because I began to feel slightly alive again, you know,
being outside in nature, being outside in the elements. I
just I loved that job.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But the boss and myself had a very toxic relationship,
and without really understanding energy or how I take on
other people's energy, I began to take on a lot
of the stress that he was under as an.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Overachieving, overworking person, and I just I began to really
really suffer with anxiety really bad. I tried to mask
it with alcohol, tried to you know, numb myself so
that I wasn't, you know, so open to this really
strong energy. And I was feeling so much guilt over
(11:53):
you know, missing out on my daughter's childhood because I
was a single mom and I had to work all
the time, and I was just the over riding guilt
of you know, missing out and having to rely on
my mom to always come and you know watch my
kid during the busy seasons on the farm and stuff.
And it was just, you know, I was just suffering.
Everything was just a struggle, and you know, I had
(12:15):
no support system or didn't really know how to go
look for one, right. I didn't know where to or
even what I needed to try and help. And so unfortunately,
my drinking led me to getting a DUI. I lost
my driver's license and my job. Both of my jobs
depended on me being able to drive. I lived in
(12:36):
a rural area. You know, I was fifteen minutes away
from the closest grocery store, So losing my driver's license
was basically the end of the world that I could
see it. Now I can't even go to the grocery store.
Now I can't even drive my kid to school. Now
what am I going to do? My parents come stay
with me to be able to you know, drive us
around and kind of take care of us. And it
(12:56):
was just like this never ending cycle of of suffering.
I ended up with a sleep disorder. I had to
go on medication because I couldn't sleep, and I was,
you know, getting over exhausted, and it was just a
really really tough time for me that you know, I
didn't I didn't see a way out. I didn't see
(13:18):
how this was I could ever possibly get better. You
know they say that, you know, time heals all things,
and time when you have, you know, when you lose
your license, all you have is time. You gotta wait
till you can, you know, get your license back. You
gotta wait till you can kind of get back into
life again. And I just felt like an utter failure.
(13:38):
I was so embarrassed, I was so ashamed, and I
just couldn't believe that this was my life. You know, this,
this is it? Is this all there was? Like you know,
all those years ago when I chose to live and
I moved away, Like for what you know, is this
is this really all there is to life? I just
didn't see.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Let's go back and talk about the things, because I
imagine a lot of people are going been there yes
or feel that now. So thinking back to you know,
growing up in the church and all of that and
kind of having that pillar foundation. And then you mentioned
I never healed from that first heartbreak and then this
(14:18):
series of events in your life and never healing, always coping,
finding a way to cope, not a healthy way to cope,
And I think that's what people relate to. Same thing
happened to me. If mine wasn't hard drugs, mine was food,
you know, and I got it, became overweight, and mine
was alcohol and I overdrank, which then I became an underachiever.
(14:40):
I went from the overture to underachiever. So there was
everybody finds a way to cope they think is coping
is unhealthy, right, And some have greater ramifications than others,
but all were isolating, all have gi shame, all these
(15:01):
things attached. As you're saying, you didn't know who to
ask or how to ask. And I think sometimes those
of us who have that church background may let shame
hold us back from reaching out for help. For sure,
I thank you, and.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I've talked about that before.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But as you move forward, I think the theme here
is these ongoing struggles from never having healed the initial
wound and then just moving into the next thing and
the next thing, and the next thing, but sounds like
when you got to this dui, it's sort of the
(15:43):
end of the road. Now, all you had was time,
and time can help us heal if we cooperate with time,
and it is time for our first commercial break and
come back. We're gonna find out what you did with
that time, and how some of these wounds started turning
into some wisdom for you, and what happened next.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
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Speaker 2 (18:13):
Welcome back everyone. You are listening to Soul cpu are
healing out loud. I'm an Papaotti today with my guests
Denise Spurn and we are talking about Denise's very traumatic
but also inspirational story. And Denise, you were just sharing
before the break about how you had gotten.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
To this place.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Now with the DUI truly into the road, you couldn't
get to either of your jobs and you are left
with time. What did you do with this time?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, I, honestly, I uh. I sat down with a
ball of whiskey and a cantfire one night and I said,
what the l are you doing? What are you doing
with your life? And what do you do now? You
have literally used up all of your options. What are
you going to do? And I decided that maybe it
(19:08):
was time to go back to school, it was time
to do something different. A friend of mine, actually my
massage therapist, had mentioned it, you know, maybe a couple
times a month earlier, that you know, maybe you should
look at doing massage therapy school, you'd be really good
at it. And so in this moment of you know,
midnight fire and myself, I thought, yeah, well let's try it.
Let's see, I'll get a student loan, I'll make it work.
(19:30):
I'll go to school. And so I chose to take
a holistic practitioner training as opposed to just massage therapy,
and I'm so glad that I did. Through this massage.
Through the holistic practitioner training, I began to learn about
traditional Chinese medicine. I began to learn about energy for
the first time. I began to learn about how we
hold emotions in the body. I began to learn all
(19:52):
of these ancient techniques, these ancient wisdoms and medicines that
you know, i'd never heard of even to help. And
so through study, you know, it was a two year program,
so time right over time, I began to learn all
of these these techniques and I began to implement them.
In this time, I began to work on other people.
(20:15):
I kind of started a you know, a part time
job alongside that very toxic farm job. But I started
to work on people and I started to work with
their energy. I was massaging them we were working on,
you know, the physical body, but also I was getting
into understanding the energy, and I started to see shifts
in my clients, like really amazing things, and it really
(20:38):
cemented the belief in me that you know, there's something
to this, there's there's something to all of this energy healing,
and you know, if they're having such great results, you know,
maybe I could have such great results. And so I
started to lean into some of the practices and which
was all well and good, but I didn't lean hard
(20:59):
on and I didn't make enough healthy choices soon enough
to where you know, my physical body still wasn't recovering.
I was starting to clear out some of the energy,
but my physical body began to have reactions and I
started to become very sick, physically sick, to a point
where you know, I couldn't even get out of bed
in the morning without throwing up. It was just literally
(21:22):
I felt like I was dying on the inside. Looking
back now, I feel as if it was all of
that trauma. It was all of everything that I had
stuffed down for so long. It was coming to the
surface to be healed. But in this process, it was
it was very, very hard and so after you know,
a month or so of just feeling like I was
dying on the inside, I woke up and I one
(21:46):
morning and I decided that's it, Like it's time. So
I attended a poop seminar. Actually, I learned about gut health.
I would recommend a poop seminar to everybody, just learning
about your gut. Yeah. I learned about food. I learned about,
you know, taking hip hopes, statement of food be thy,
(22:06):
medicine and medicine be thy food. I really lead into that.
I stopped eating anything that was poisonous, you know, poisonous
to my blood type. I started, you know, drinking a
lot of water. I started meditating every day. I started
learning about energy clearings and how important it was to
clear my energy on a daily basis, especially because I
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was working with other people and I was in a
very toxic job.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I began to all of a sudden understand, Okay, when
I show up to work and he's in a bad mood,
and now I'm in a bad mood, this isn't actually
my mood. This is his bad mood that I've picked up.
And I started to, you know, all the pieces began
to come together because I was opening myself up to
all of these ancient teachings and just trying something right.
If if something didn't work or it didn't resonate, I
(22:55):
try something else. I got into you know skills. I
absolutely love crystals there. They're such great boosts or you know,
helping to keep your energy clear. And you know, I
just started doing one thing at a time. I took
supplements to help you build my health, and the weight
that I was carrying, you know, it literally just melted
off me. I didn't start a big exercise program. I
(23:18):
really just started eating to support my body, to give
it good health and just support, I guess. And it
started to reflect through my daily meditation practice. I began
to connect with my soul for the first time ever
ever in my life, and I began to feel good.
(23:40):
I began to feel like I was coming alive again
in a way that I had never ever experienced in
my life. I began to talk kindly to myself instead
of all the other things that we typically say to
ourselves as women sometimes. And I just began to believe
that I actually have this power to change my life
(24:02):
situation like I have I can do this right every
little change I made, every little step forward, it just
gave me the belief that I don't have to stay
stuck in this reality that I'm in. And I finally
quit that job. I finally quit that toxic job, and
I went just full time into my healing business. And
(24:25):
by allowing myself to embrace my spiritual side, it opened
up this whole new realm of possibilities. I dove into,
you know, what are my beliefs?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Growing up in the church, You're told what to believe,
You're told what to think, you're told about how the
world works. And none of that resonated with me at all.
But I also didn't know what I actually believed, right,
I didn't know who I was still yet at this point,
and so I just I went down the rabbit hole
and I, you know, I dove into what are my
beliefs and what do I actually believe? Is this my
(24:59):
belief or is this the belief that I grew up
being told? Does this resonate with me? Yeah? No, no,
this is not my belief. And I just became very
clear on what my were, what my values were, what
was truly important to me in my life. You know,
my relationship with my daughter teenager by this time, started
(25:21):
to change, and my reactions started to change. And so
instead of you know, flying off the handle like I
used to when there was a lot of alcohol involved,
I began to have that pause, right, that beautiful pause
of where instead of jumping into reaction, you just take
a step back and you think, Okay, you know, let's
(25:42):
just breathe here for a minute, Let's just breathe and
think about this. What's a loving way that I can
respond instead of just reacting. And so through all of
this mindfulness and the meditation practice and just coming back
to myself or coming to myself. I can't even say
that to myself because I don't think i'd ever really
been in myself, you know what I mean, Like, really, yeah,
(26:07):
I do. Just I had never really known myself, and
I put myself really into solitude. I let go of
any toxic relationships, friendships, things, places. I just really leaned
into the acreage, my property that I lived on, and
it was so healing. It was in nature. There was
(26:28):
trees all around, and I just leaned into this beautiful
place of healing and magic, and I began to finally
feel like I was coming alive, like I knew who
I was and it felt so good for the first
time in my life. Definitually love myself.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
That's innovation right there. Is it fair to say you
replaced your former coping mechanisms which weren't coping, were self
sabotaging behaviors. Is it fair to say your new coping.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Mechanism was just love? Just love, the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Way you would respond to your daughter, the way you
would respond to yourself, the way you approached life. Just
came from a place of understanding and love, understanding your
place in the world, who you are in the world, Yeah,
and everything. It sounds like you came back to what
(27:32):
does love look like and sound like in this moment
to me, to them, to her, to him? And that
meant that made it easy to assess relationships of people, places,
and things right because people say it's hard to let go.
Not really not When you have such a criteria as
(27:52):
you've set forth for yourself, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I love that. To check in how does this make
me feel? How does this person make me feel? Do
they make me feel good? Not? Really? Okay? Well, then
how important should they really be in your life? Right?
Does this situation does this place? Does it make me
feel good? Not really? Well, maybe it's time to just
put this aside, right, Yeah, maybe I should lean more
(28:18):
into things that do make me feel good, that make
me feel energized and joyful, not drained and sad or overwhelmed. Right.
Tapping into the feeling of how things make you feel
is an excellent guide to what is truly right for
you exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And I know you talk a lot about the body
will tell you, so tell us more about that. So
what is when when there's pain in the body, what
is that aligned with emotionally? Let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Sure, So everything that you feel in your physical body
has already had happened in your energetic bodies. So the
way that your physical body talks to you through pain,
through inforammation, through illnesses, through disease, this is all a
manifestation of what you've been holding inside of your energetic body,
usually for quite some time. Because your intuition is going
(29:18):
to talk to you, You're gonna have little hints, You're
going to kind of be guided throughout the way when
something comes up, something maybe is stuck, maybe you're holding
on trapped emotions and you haven't quite dealt with something.
It just kind of stuffed it down like I did
for so many years. But when you stuff things down
and you don't deal with it right, eventually it starts
to manifest into something. And so if you don't clear
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your energy, and if you're not aware of the emotions
and the experiences you're holding onto your physical body, the
matter of your body will eventually start to relate to
you and talk to you. Because if you can't hear
me energetically, you're gonna hear me physically. You're gonna hear
me when you know your knees are painful. You're gonna
hear me when your hips, You're going to hear me
(30:00):
when your back hurts. Right, So the physical body, it's
hard to talk to you to give you clues as
to what is going on energetically, because above all things,
you are an energetic being before you are ever a
physical being. Right, your soul has existed before you've been
in this physical body. It existed for quite some time.
(30:21):
So you are an energetic body before you're ever a
physical body. And so learning how to talk to the body,
just to say, any body, how are you doing today?
Are you feeling any pain? And then you know, close
your eyes and tap in and just see what hurts
in the body, and then you can go that one
step deeper and ask, okay, I hear you, thank you.
(30:45):
Is there something that I'm holding on to that's causing this? Right?
What can I do for you? What do you need
from me? What do I maybe need to release? What
do I need to clear? Is this even my own
issue or is this somebody else's issue?
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's where the practice of daily energy clearings can really
start to help you get a better picture of what
is mine and what is not mine. Because those experiences
I had at the farm, nine times out of ten
that bad mood I was in it was not my
bad mood. I loved that job. I loved it, but
like that it could turn into a bad day and
(31:20):
a bad mood. But it wasn't mine. It was his,
and I didn't realize that time. The body will talk
to you, but you have to be open to listening.
You know, when ls Hey Pioneer right, she wrote the
You Can Heal Your Life book and in there she
has symptoms for so many physical issues inside the body,
(31:42):
and she has the energetic issue of what you're holding
on to what needs to be cleared in order to
heal that physical symptom that you're experiencing. So I always
recommend to all of my clients pick up that book,
get the Little Blue Book, pick your book right, and
just start talking to your.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, and it's always an a right Joe just has
an affirmation to go with it, which is very helpful.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Yeah, Yeah, start off love, Yeah exactly exactly that when
you start to love on yourself and you start to
appreciate everything your body does for you and and everything
about your day, you know, even if it's good or bad,
because I've had a lot of bad days. But when
you can just choose, when you choose that today, I'm
(32:35):
going to have a good day and it doesn't matter
what happens. I'm just going to have a good day today,
and I'm just going to let it be right. It
all comes down to how you're choosing to show up
for yourself and your life and inviting that love and
that forgiveness and that compassion in for yourself. Yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It is time for our second break, and we have
so much more to talk about and I could probably
talk to you for definitely, but anyway, Denny Stunt Go
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Speaker 2 (35:11):
Welcome back everyone. This is SELCYPR, I'm Build Brake TV.
I'm and Papayotte today with my guest deneyse Spurn. So, Denise,
you talk about scars, those that are but visible on
the body and those that are invisible. Talk to me
a little bit about scars and your your thoughts around scars.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Absolutely so. Part of my training was learning how to
read the body, learning to see, you know, information, freckles,
marks on the body, birthmarks, scars, and they all tell
a story. And I know there's you know, a stigma
around with a lot of women about you know, say
stretch marks. Right, A lot of people feel ashamed by
(35:54):
these scars on their body. And to me, every scar
on the body tells a story and it it's nothing
to be ashamed of or to ever hate on about yourself. Right.
Our physical body is just this form that we are
(36:15):
moving through this human existence with, and and it is
just it is just a body. It means nothing about
who you are. So for those that carry physical scars
you know that people can see, I think they're just
absolutely beautiful because it just tells the story, you know,
kind of like I was here, right, I lived, I
(36:36):
lived my life, I was here. It's like those a Nuokschuk's,
you know, those rock structures that people will put up
with my goal places. I was here right. Well, your
scars show that you lived and you've experienced this human
this human life that you came here to to experience.
But there's also those unseen scars, those scars that people
(36:58):
don't see on the inside and experienced so many scars
through you know, the trauma, the abuse, the PTSD, the grief,
everything everything. It left such deep scars on the inside
that people couldn't see. I looked, you know, I was
a really good actress. I put on a really happy
face for a lot of people for a lot of years,
(37:20):
and nobody could even begin to guess that I was
hurting so bad on the inside. And I think a
lot of us carry those scars, those unseen scars that
you know, you might feel shame around, you might feel
embarrassed by, you might feel like unlovable because of these scars.
And one of my things, like one of my deepest
(37:43):
messages that I want all the women of the world
to hear, is that you are not your scars. You know,
they simply show you the life that you lived, but
it doesn't mean anything about you. And it doesn't mean
that you have to continue to live a life that
proves those scars right, Like, you can change anything about
(38:05):
your life. I did multiple times, and it's possible. You
just have to want to. You just have to have,
you know, an idea or a goal that is better,
even if it's only this much, that's better than you are, right,
and see learning how to really just embrace your perfect
(38:29):
body as it is, to stop to stop shaming it,
to stop blaming it, right, and just start living every
bit about yourself, the way that you look, the way
that you are. You are unique and you are perfect,
and that is beauty in itself. So I just love
teaching women how to find the in themselves because I
(38:53):
just think there needs to be more of it coming
back to love, right, it's all coming out of I'm
just teaching your body.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It does all come back to love. And I absolutely
love the way you express your philosophy about scars because
if we could just embrace the fact that our bodies
are vehicles right to take us through and that someone
used the and I've adopted this. They use the term
(39:26):
blessing scar, you know, when there's a scar that saved
your life for some for example, my melanoma scar, and
I'm like, yeah, that's a blessing scar.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I'm not going to cover it.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I proudly show it on my chest, right, So just
looking at these visible scars in that way, and then
all these invisible scars that may have shame and other
I don't know self blame, all these different connotations attached
to them to be able to process those differently and
(40:00):
to recognize that we can change the narrative of our story,
which will change how we feel and then change how
we show up in life for ourselves and others, coming
from that place of love. And we have to start
with self compassion before we can ever show up differently
for anyone else. But if we can start with self compassion,
(40:22):
it's going to really change how we experience life. And
I know you and I've talked before sometimes that wanting
to feel differently, we have to just give our selves
permission to want something different, give your self permission to
(40:43):
want it, and then want it and then take that
one little step, like you said, it can be that far,
just that one little action to go along with it,
whatever it may be. And looking at your life, so
many things were really big steps up. You know, you
cut out anything that was harmful to your bloodstreams, So
(41:06):
you quit alcohol when alcohol was a daily habit, right,
an intense habit, something that was so you were able
to just really make a decision. And I want everybody
listening to understand it starts with the decision. So give
yourself permission to make the decision to take the action,
(41:27):
whatever it may be, however big or small, so that
you can change your life moving on, because there's so
much I.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Want to talk to you about. So that's the scars.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What was the turning point or the decision for you?
Now you've got this thriving practice, you've learned so much
about the healing arts, and you've got this business built.
You've disconnected from toxicity in your life. You're healing yourself.
But now you've decided to go into one on one
(41:57):
coaching and group coaching. So what led to that transition
in your business?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah? For sure. So I had another really great blessing happen.
Actually I had. I had been single for a very
very very long time, basically since I left my daughter's
father back when she was eighteen months old. So I
had been singled very long time, and I got I
finally healed all of those hurts by me where I
(42:23):
was open to the idea of a relationship. And December
two thousand or twenty twenty one, I guess when we
moved into the age of Aquarius, I performed a sacred
ceremony for myself and I called in my soulmate. I
wrote out this ridiculously detailed two page description of what
(42:45):
my perfect partner would need to be and if this
perfect partner or something better existed out there. I was
open to the idea of stepping into a relationship for
the first time in a very, very long time. Four
months later, I took a different job and I met
my husband, and so I moved away from you know,
(43:10):
this home that I had, you know, created where I
had done all my healing and things, and I moved in.
You know, he was still my boyfriend at the time.
So moved in and I was working out of you know,
two different businesses. I was massaging and doing my energy
healing and all this. But I decided to rent out
my house because I was living here and you know,
my house was empty there. So I had this renter
(43:31):
move in and it was it was not a good experience.
She did not follow through with what she said she
would do in regards to keeping up the yard, keeping
the house clean, and just being mindful of somebody else's space. Right,
We've all had an experience of a poopy renter. I
had a really poopy renter and I didn't realize it.
(43:57):
I didn't realize it, but it was really affecting me. Energetically.
I was devastated that she was taking this beautiful place
that I had created and basically running it into the ground.
And anytime I had to go there for a check
in or you know, to fix the furnace or the
hot water tank, and I would walk into just this
disaster of a home. It was just like another knife
(44:21):
to the back. And I started without putting, you know,
the pieces together at the time, I started having these backspasms,
and you know, as a body worker and someone who
had been you know, a decade into working with the
body and understanding how it talks to you, you know,
I just kind of thought, oh, okay, it's probably time
to go to the chiropractor and massage. Get a massage,
(44:42):
right a massage therapist who you know struggles with going
to get a massage difficult, yes, But so I dove
into self care again because I know self care works,
and I went to massage, and I went to the
chiropractor regularly every two weeks for over three months, and
the axpasm just got worse and worse and worse, to
(45:02):
the point where it was gripping pain that would shoot
from my back, threw my lungs around my ribs and
I couldn't breathe. It was just the most excruciating pain.
So it got to the point where, you know, I
couldn't even work. I literally could not work on people
experiencing this spasm that just kind of started to be
an all day spasm. So I finally caved and I
(45:24):
had to go to the doctor. Like I had tried
all the things that I knew how to do as
a healer and as a practitioner, I'd even reached out
to a mentor of mine who was a healer, and
you know, I tried to get some advice there and
nothing was working. And so I finally had to go
to the doctor, and they sent me for X rays,
and you know, they gave me these really strong drugs
(45:44):
that I didn't want to take but ended up having to.
They you know, sent me up to go to phasotherapy,
like all of these things. And what ended up happening
was I evicted that that renter and I spent the
weekend cleaning up the disaster that she had left in
that house. And the very last thing I had to
do and clean up was the bathroom. And I was there,
(46:06):
I was in pain, like I had tears running down
my face. My body was hurt so bad from this
literal backspasm from morning to night. And I finished up
the bathroom, I took one last look around the house
and I was like, oh, it's over. It's done. Like
she is gone, she is out of my place, she's
(46:29):
out of my energy. And like that, my back spasm stopped.
I'm not joking, and it literally stopped in the moment.
I can honestly say I wasn't aware of it, but
thinking back now, I was like, yeah, actually it stopped.
I drove all the way home. We were heading on
(46:49):
a camping trip that weekend, and I was expecting to
just be in pain and suffering the entire time. I
didn't have a single back spasm and it has never
come back. And that it was like right energy. Before Form,
I had been holding on to this feeling of being
stabbed in the back because she told me she would
(47:10):
take care of my property, my baby, and she didn't.
She was literally stabbing me in the back and until
I went it is done, I forgive I'm over it.
I let it go. I suffered in my physical body.
My physical body was trying to tell me, you are
feeling stabbed in the back, and I didn't put the
pieces together until after. So this was when I realized
(47:33):
I need to I need to move out of just
working the physical body. I need people to understand that
your energy will always talk louder than your physical form,
and if you're not listening, your physical form will begin
to talk to you to let you know that there
is something that needs to be fixed. So that was
when I really just started to talk to my heart
(47:55):
and was like, you know, is this time? Is it
time to move on into something bigger? I just hot
this bigger calling and so that's how I ended up
creating a program, Nay Programs for Healing the mind, the soul,
and the spirit.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
That's amazing and what a great testimony to that you
have with that story. Well, we are up for our
third and final break, and when we come back, we're
going to talk about how you now work with people
and how people can sign up for this amazing.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Speaker series you've created. So don't go far.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
We'll be back with more with Denise and FULCPR.
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Speaker 2 (50:44):
And we are back and Denise, I am going to
ask you if you had a key message that you
would leave with our audience today for a takeaway, what
would it be.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
That's probably the toughest question you've asked me all day,
because I have so many, but I think the biggest
he would be to start seeing yourself as a beautiful being.
Start recognizing that it doesn't matter what has happened to
you in your past, in your past lives, none of
(51:20):
that matters. All that matters is what you choose for
yourself going forward. Every day that you wake up is
a blessing in disguise, one that you may not even
understand yet, but I promise you that it is a
blessing that you are here. There is a reason you
are here. There's a reason I'm still here. I never
thought that after my second overdose, didn't ever think I'd
still be here. But I'm here, and there's a reason
(51:42):
I'm here. I'm here to share my story to help
other women overcome the difficulties that they have lived in
their lives, and to know that there is hope. There
absolutely is hope. You can heal your life, you can
trust in your ability to heal. You can learn to
love yourself, you can teach yourself to love yourself, you
can accept yourself, and you can find lasting piece in
(52:04):
a spiritual connection.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I love that, and I think my takeaway that I
would add to that would be that there is wisdom
in every wound, for sure, and sometimes you just want
to sit with it time. And sometimes that time is
forced upon you, as yours was, and sometimes you may
have to choose to sit with that time and listen
(52:28):
and connect with your higher consciousness, which is your intuition,
and allow it to come to you. So I thank
you for that, Denise, So tell us about this speaker
series that you've created that all of our audience can
sign up for and benefit from.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Absolutely. So I have created a fourteen day free, free
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overarching message is about healing and bringing balance back to
the mind, the body, the soul, the spirit. So this
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(53:13):
about trusting your ability to heal, embracing your perfect body
as is, and feeling lasting piece from spiritual connection. So
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Series which is s E R I E S Dot,
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can go there. You can sign up for this free event.
And I have thirty one amazing speakers, including Ann who
have have graciously gifted them gifted us with their wisdom,
their stories, their tips, their advice, and it's just it's
(53:59):
become this beautiful creation full of high vibracial energy. And
if you are anywhere on your journey or any of
anything that I have said today resonates, then trust me,
you want to be part of this series. It is
definitely going to transform the way you see yourself, the
way you feel about yourself, and it's it's really just
(54:19):
it's been a creation from the deepest part of my heart.
So I hope you guys enjoy it and come check
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Speaker 2 (54:27):
Thank you so much, Denise. I know I'm going to
be talking about self love after toxic love, so I
know that will appeal to some and I think a
lot of us have free giveaways as well, like I've
created this whoopsie which way on the camera, No, that's
the way, other way dance helping me out love guide.
(54:51):
That will be a giveaway there on when you sign
up for the event. So Denise, thank you so much,
and I I apologize for mis pronouncing your last name,
Dennise Burn. Thank you for being with me today on
sel CR and for sharing your Wounds to Wisdom.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
Story with my audience. I'm so very grateful.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
And as we come to the conclusion of today's episode,
I want to remind all of our listeners that healing
is not a linear journey.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Is at Denise.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
It is a process, right, It's a process of profound
transformation as sky curves and winding roads, and sometimes we
fall off a cliff to get there, but it healings spirals.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's one way to say it. But if today's episode
resonated with you, please share it with someone else who
might need a lifeline of their own. We appreciate that.
Subscribe rate and leave a review to help us reach
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(56:01):
thoughts or story topics you'd like to see or hear
more from on soulf CPR. We'll make on happen. Miss
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contact information will be in the show notes as well,
her Facebook, her her website and more. All Right, so
thank you for listening, and until next time, may you
find strength in your vulnerability and courage in your journey.
(56:24):
Breathe deeply, love openly, and live soulfully.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
Good to everyone.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
This has been.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
Soul CPR with host and Papa Yodi. Breathe life back
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