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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
So how's everybody been doing? Good? Everything is good over
here on this end, yep, allow for my momentary weather report.
It's hot. How's that? Nothing else that except that's really
been ho Besides that, you know what, for those of
you who are watching, even though it's a little bit staggered,
we had like our first kind of it's not really
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a hurricane scare for Florida, but you know, that Hurricane
Errand like skirting up the coast of the United States.
But of course it went to a category five, so
we had these big announcements, oh, you know, monster storm
or category five or you know, stuff like that. And
all from what I've seen so far, all it's got
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is just you know, like the out in the outer Banks,
they've gotten some flooding, and you know what, it just
where you go. It's great to live on the water,
especially on the coast. But that's the downside. The downside is,
besides probably your humongous insurance bill, is just dealing with
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stuff like this. You know, you just just can't. I mean,
it's in other words, there's always you know how they say,
there's always a downside to everything. Well that's one of them.
So anyway, yeah, that's but that's about the only thing interesting.
And you know, like I'm going to repeat myself, dull
is underrated, especially when it comes to the weather. I'll
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take dull any you know, when you're a kid, I
remember I was growing up with Harry Kane, no school.
You know, the lights will go out, and I was like, great,
because you're not an adult, you didn't have to worry
about those things. But but then you grow up and
you're like, oh my god. Uh so yeah, so yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna hope that all the hurricanes that
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come out they just do exactly that, they just go
off somewhere to the Atlantic somewhere and hopefully they spare.
Let's see Bermuda And that's about it. So anyway, uh
let's see, you know, let me see the I was
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looking at you know, I was looking at some you
know I've been you know lately, I've been bringing you
just like little tidbits, some news of like interesting stuff
that that's going on here. And I try to look
believe it or not, for non UFO stuff. But it's
very little when it comes to like unusual stuff. Most
of it ends up being it goes back to uh, yeah,
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it comes back to utiful. Let's put it this way.
Let me let me silence this because as you know,
I have even adult children that they're telling is impeccable.
But anyway, let me let me get this one on
here that even when I went to a psychology which
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is psychology today, sometimes I look at their articles it
was like, wait a minute, you guys are also talking.
You guys are also talking about UFOs. It's like, way,
so anyway, let me show you this here UFOs and aliens.
Right here we go. Okay, well, basically what this report
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is saying, what is c UFOs, aliens and the problem
of evil? What is a psychological significance of the UFO
or UAP phenomena? Now this is uh basically what they're
saying in is key points. We tend to fear and
project our shadow onto strangers. It should be one of
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life's ultimate concerns, and it is incumbent upon us to recognize, acknowledge,
and constructively address the reality of evil. Okay, and of
course mysterious phenomena of uphosa or ups inevitably touches on
matters of religion, spirituality, morality, and psychology, including our innate
quest for meaning, and especially on the perennial problem of evil.
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We humans possess a primal, perhaps instinctual proclivity to perceive
and deem that which we do not understand as i
either unknown, as negative, destructive, or evil. How's this without
going into death into the rest of the article, It's
almost like, you know, are we making uphos out to
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be evil just because we don't understand it or we
don't know what it is? Says here. Psychological dynamics and
extension ex extential needs like that can foster belief in UFOs.
Extrateruterial visitation or reductions, especially abductions, fervent and far fetch,
unswerving and unlikely reports with absolutely no objective evidence or
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coroboration there we go or coroboration I'm sorry, can in
some cases sound like the stuff of delusions or hallucinations
heard every day in psychiatric words around the world, And
like hallucinations and illusions, these reported experiences can sometimes serve
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as a sort of projective test, revealing hidden conflicts, fears, resentments,
repress memories, traumas and anxieties, and sometimes positive feelings not
only a psyche of individual experiencers, but deeply rooted in
our collective unconscious psyche as well, all right, And basically
what it goes into is like, how much of maybe
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people that report seeing UFOs or an abduction are they
reenacting some type of trauma from their childhood? Okay? Or
it's just a very fact that we don't know that
much about UFO slash UAP extraterrestrials. Does that make us fear?
It says here human beings historically harbor a primal fear
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of the other and the unknown, and superstitiously see them
as threatening harbingers of evil. Whether these are people of
different races, ethnicities, nationalities, or religions, or uninvited, unwelcomed strangers
from outer space, we project our so called shadow, viewing
them as the evil enemy. All right. Consequently, we are
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pronto attacking verbally or physically the unknown object of our fears,
which causes untold interpersonal and international conflict blah blah blah.
If alias, assuming they truly exist, eventually turn not to
be trustworthy, demonstrating hostility, aggression, malice, evil intentions, and pose
a mortal threat to humanity is depicted, for example, in HG.
Well's science fiction novel War of the Worlds, they will
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need to be fought, and despite their superior technology, if
humanity is to survive, that they even possess or represent,
such a potentiality for evils for some people frightening reason
enough to deny their existence entirely, not to mention the
shadowing impact that the reality of alien life would have
on our religious, philosophical and scientific beliefs. Now, part of
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that I kind of agree on a little bit, But
you know what part of me believes that naturally, and
I'm not talking just about aliens. If you have a
good sense of self preservation, whether it's on a personal
level or in a community, you first have to be
a little bit distrustful of something that you don't know
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or you don't understand until it's How is that it's
not that I don't trust you, but I don't trust
you either until something proves itself all right? In other words, Yeah,
we would like, you know, we'd have a Kumbaya moment
with the ets, But what if they're not here for
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a Kumbaya moment? Isn't it better just to wait and see?
Or figure it out before, like say, hey, welcome, I
don't know what do you guys think? You know, what
do you think? Is it or being predisposed to be
frightened of extraterrestrials slash UFOs or is it the right
thing to do just in case? Or in some cases
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are some people that claim to have had experiences with anything,
whether UFOs, mostly with abductions. I would think are basically
reliving some type of trauma, maybe from their childhood, repressed memory,
something else that happened, and they whatever that situation was,
it wasn't how's this, It wasn't had nothing to do
with extraterrestrials. It was something, but they the cope with it.
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They put it in that category. Let me know what
you think. But in the meantime, let me tell you
about our guest today been here before. His name is
John Miler. He's an author of several books with outstanding reviews.
He writes in a number of different genres, to include
his unique brand of Christian uthology. He also writes children's literature, fantasy,
sci fi, comedy, biography, song lyrics, and poetry. He's also
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a radio talk show guest for numerous programs Aside from writing,
Miler served in the military fresh out of high school.
He started with the Active Duty Army Infantry as an
M sixty gunner. He then transitioned to the Air National
Guard and retired as a Chief Master Sergeant E nine,
serving as the Chief of cyber Operations for the United
States Western Air Defense Sector. Twenty twenty one, Miler transition
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from the military to the private sector, who now works
in cybersecurity protecting their critical infrastructure util it is the
United States. He's a family man and has a wide
variety of interests, ranging from high octane outdoor activities such
as sports motorcycles, camping, fishing, conuey, archery, and survival craft,
to playing the drums, ethical hacking, and writing books. He's
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also a member of UFO networker move On, and he's
currently pursuing certification as a UFO Field Investigator. Help me
welcome him. How are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
John?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That MEI on mutube? That would help now, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Ye?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
So how's that everything been for you?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Uh, it's been really good. It's been really good. And
I thought for this show that I would focus on
talking a little bit more about like ghosts.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And we can know wherever you want to go with this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, you mentioned it did seem familiar that i'd been
on the show before you have.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, you told me about some really weird experiences you had.
I think and when you were like in South America
I believe, or Central America.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Uh it was Panama, Panama.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, I knew that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I was like, what, okay, Panamanian conflict.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, yes, yes, I remember, so I haven't forgotten that
that was. Like but I'm not kidding. When I look up,
you know, just not the regular news, but weird news.
Everything is uphos and ets in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It's like, Okay, that's prophecy for you. So Jesus said
that when he returns, it'll be like the days of
Noah and the days of Noah. If you've read Genesis
chapter six, it was about these angels coming down to
Earth in their chariots. I have my opinions of what
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an angelic chariot looks like. Okay, yeah, I mean literally.
Ezekiel's wheel is described as from the side, it's a
transparent dome on top, beryllium heat resistant metal on the bottom,
two sets of wings that are connected in the middle
that don't flap, okay, and then from top down you
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got wheels within wheels, and if there's lights here, they
could be interpreted as eyes in the spokes of the
wheels within wheels. So it's just flying around radically like
this and like this, and he's trying to describe it.
That's why you get such a variety of things in
his explanation Ezekiel chapter one in ten. But when you
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dissect it piece by piece, even talks about landing gears,
coming down and stuff. I mean, it's an angelic chariot.
It's not gonna look like a Roman chariot two thousand
years ago. It's it wouldn't have wheels on the side.
It's flying horses of fire, right propulsion. Horses were the
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only kind of proportion propulsion they knew of. They referred
to angelic chariots as a chariot was a generic word
for vehicle. It's not. I don't believe it was intended
as a this is a no kidding chariot. I think
it was more like, well, the Romans run around and
the Egyptians run around in these things with a horse
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pulling it. That's a vehicle, right.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
In other words, this is not from like the ben
Her movies, you know when you got the races right.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
This is an astounding vehicle surrounded by lightning and fire,
and it's flying and erratic, and its wheels within wheels
one minute, and all kinds of wings and eyes, and.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Ask you do you think because it was only a
couple of months ago that they were now putting out
another report that the Pentagon had also put out stories,
you know, in other words, stories like hey, I'm so
and so and I saw a UFO, just to disguise
the fact that some of these UFOs or ups were
really not et in origin. But we're them testing out
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different types of guess of aircraft that they were producing.
Do you think there's any truth to it that some
of the not all the unifhos are et in origin.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Uh. These days, there's so much going on. It's all
of the above, Letter D. We've had their technology for
quite some time. We've been reverse engineering it for quite
some time. Some of our technology, the computers that we're
talking on, we're inspired from that technology. I don't think
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we invented a lot of things. I think we saw
something and we've been pecking away at it. And we
went from transistors you know, to where we're at now
and with AI in what fifty years. That's an incredible
speed at which we've been developing our technology. And I
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believe that it's because we've been reverse engineering and it
probably had stuff for quite some time. Okay, So some
of it's ours, some of it's theirs, and I especially
believe some of it's from beyond because the Bible talks
about it. I believe in he Tea is more because
of the Bible than what I see in the news.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So, so you think they're friendly, not or just don't care?
I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, So there's all these categories. Right, there's angels and
they're good and bad angels. Right, the Bible's very clear,
so obviously there's good guys, we know the bad ones.
The Bible specifically talks about him getting cast down to Earth.
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So that doesn't mean that there aren't any bad ones
out there still, but a group of them got cast
down to this planet and they're confined here in a
higher dimension. They're still in first Heaven, I would call
it a higher dimension, and that is a larger planet
in a higher dimension, and that's where they rule and rain.
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They're pretty much in charge of what happens here, good
ones and bad ones. It's in Deuteronomy, chapter thirty two.
The boundaries of this world, all the national boundaries are
established by the beings that rule over them in that
higher realm. And that's on Earth, higher dimension, another dimension,
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but still on this planet. But there's other planets, and
I believe that they come from other planets as well.
Big distinction. The word heaven is plural. When you read
the word heaven and the Bible, you're reading the heavens,
and it's synonymous with outer space and multiple dimensions. So
it's a lot to take in and understand. Hence I
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wrote that book, and a lot of it comes from
just questions I would come across something. And the first
part of my life as a kid, I was totally
immersed in paranormal stuff. I was like Fox Moulder, you know,
when I was a teenager, I quote you everything right.
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But then Jesus visited me when I was twenty one
years old, after the Army, after I had that encounter
in the jungle and Panama talking to that glowing ball
of light, and all of this paranormal stuff had happened
in my life, so I knew those things from experience
were real. But then I encountered Jesus in like like
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my great grandmother. I was like, well, he's real too.
I believe he was real before, but now he was
like real real.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, right, I understand.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, he literally visited me and he spoke his name
in my ear, so a one word conversation, but conveyed
a lot to me, and it stuck with me over
thirty years now. And that's when I started reading the
Bible immediately, and I started connecting the dots with all
of this paranormal stuff, and you know, like, wow, there's
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ghosts in the Bible. There's Bigfoot in the Bible. There's demons, angels,
there's entities that are not necessarily angels that might be
out there. The Bible has words for these. It refers
to the host of Heaven. It's used eighteen times in
the Bible, and it's a broader term than angels. It
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could be. My belief is that God had created life
on other planets just like here, that there were versions
of Adam and Eve out there just like us, and
in many of those worlds, Lucifer didn't deceive them, and
they continued to develop became a very advanced technologies, a
natural expression of intelligence in the physical world. And so
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they developed these technologies and they use them. We get confused, though,
because God delegates things to angels, right, so angels might
come here in their spaceships and do things interfering in
our society, and our cultures are apt to call them
gods or a god. And you know, I big chunk
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of my research is to correct that. Let's not demote
the Creator just to you know, elevate these other beings
I believe the Bible. So I pointed out some very
important things that I think Genesis two seven, God made
us in his image. We were not seated here by ets.
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I reject that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I know you hear that all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, hear that.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Or they either seated us or tweaked us or something.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Well, they tweak us. I do believe they tweaked us. Yeah,
Genesis six, they literally documents that they tweaked us. And
what happened the tweaking was horrific. It resulted in the
entire genome being so corrupt with these nepheline, these hybrid
angel humans and hybrid angel animals, of which Bigfoot is
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probably one, and the world became so corrupt with these
they were inherently violent, and God had to wipe out
the planet and the flood of Noah, and then even
after the flood, they came back. So there's all of
this whole paranormal stuff that the Bible talks about. And
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I was really surprised that the people back then, thirty
years ago, that I would talk about these things. They
were be like all these red flags would go off,
you know, they'd hear me talk about ghosts or something,
and they would just want to put this demonic label
on everything. And I want to understand it. I don't
want to just put a label on it. Not every
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ghost is bad. I mean, the Bible even talks about
good ghosts. When Cain killed his brother Abel, the first
ghost was able. When God came, he heard Abel's voice
crying out from the ground. And if there's any confusion,
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I mean, like reiterates in the New Testament Hebrews chapter eleven,
by faith, though he was dead, Abel was spoke out
from beyond the grave. That is a ghost.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, And he's not a he's not a bad guy.
Abel was righteous, right, So he's he's an example of
a good ghost. My great grandmother saw my great grandfather,
who was a preacher m hm. The day before she died.
She came in and was having breakfast an the other
day with her daughter, my grandmother Ruth, and my grandma
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Thelma said, well, when I woke up this morning, Rant
was standing at the foot of my bed holding his
hands out to me like this, and he was he
was in glory. He was young, and I felt all
this joy and peace and love, and I could have
left this morning. And she said, I'm gonna go very soon.
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The next day she died.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I was food no right, yeh. Hear that. You
hear that a lot from people that work in either
hospices or you know, the nursing homes or oncology where
they get a lot of people that are soon to
pass away. We'll start talking like that, even if you
know their help might not be the best, but there's
nothing there that that thinks, Okay, any minute now, they're
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going to pass. But when they start having that making
those comments, a lot of people say, yes, not, we
were having conversations, right, We're having conversations with uh or
I saw so and so in the room or things
like that. People have passed on. They kind of know, Okay,
something's going on pretty soon, this person's going to leave you.
And if their health is stable, how's that.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah. The famous comedian Sam Kinnison, he used to be
a preacher when he was younger, and he got Yeah,
he was a pastor, fire and Brimstone. He would scream
a lot. That's where he got a lot of that
screaming from. But then he was hit by a car
and it kind of altered his personality and it made
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him a lot more on edge. This happened when he
was a kid, and then when he got older he
was a pastor for a while and he was just
barely scraping by. But he had a knack for making
people laugh. And that's when he tried out comedy and
discovered my goodness, you know, he was an actually, even
though he was pretty.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
If he had told me any comedian that one time
was a pastor, I would never have thought of him
at all.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well, when he was on his deathbed, my brother walked
in and saw him in a conversation and he was like, yeah, yeah,
I know I took it too far. I'm sorry, you know,
what can I say? You know? And he was just
in this long like wasn't even registering his brother was there.
And his brother's like, I think he's having a conversation,
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a real conversation, working out these things and and maybe
having his life review right here but still one foot
over here. Mm hmm, yeah, that happens. So let me
open up here by by just putting out this question.
So I wrote this question, and I came out with
seven categories. The question is what is a ghost? And
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so this is one of the things that I dealt
with when I I was as a believer and I'm
reading the Bible and I talk to Christians about, you know, ghosts,
and then they would talk about Lazarus and the rich
Man and when you die, you either go to heaven
or hell. There's nothing in between. So if there's a ghost,
you know, it's it's either it's it's probably a demon.
It's it's not going to be your deceased love.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And heard of that, like yeah, like if that's as
really a demon and this guy.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Is right right, And I'm like, yeah, well, maybe that
can explain some but I think you're oversimplifying it. I
I don't. I think Jesus was referring to a specific person.
For starters, Lazarus is the only person mentioned by name
in any of Jesus's parables. It's very likely, and some
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have debated this, that he was talking about somebody that
the people knew, right and maybe the rich person they
might have known him too, but that name was not
what you didn't name drop whoever the rich person was.
He did mention Lazarus, though, and so Lazarus went to
the place of the righteous dead, and then there were
people in the really bad place, and that was in
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the underworld. And I believe those places exist. However, I
do believe that when you die that there's this spectrum
of alternate realities that you pass through. And I've come
to understand this from like people that can astra project
and go to those places. And Robert Monroe, for example,
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talked about Local jan Local two and all of these things.
So there's the aspect of where is hell. You know,
it's not as cut and dry is I think people.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
So it's not like, yeah, the up or down kind
of deal, Like.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
There's there's blessed ground, there's cursed ground, there's Hell's there's heavens,
and so there's a lot of things. So some of
the questions that I would ask people, you know, just
to kind of get it started, is ghost clothing. Can
can you explain ghost clothing? If ghosts are are only
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the spirits of deceased people or demons, can you explain
their clothing? What about Lincoln's ghost train? People have seen
it for years, an entire train. It was never alive. Yeah,
ghost sounds. I've seen shows where they went into a
place and they had their recording stuff and they're hearing
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these weird sounds and it sounded. They were like that
sounds like billiards, like pool balls. Then they did some
research and found out it used to be a pool
haul and the sounds were like impregnated into the matter
in the walls and stuff and still playing back. So
this kind of brings me to psychometry. So here's here's
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a theory. Right when when something happens in an area,
like a brutal murder or something, an enormous amount of
emotion and energy mental cognitive energy is burst out of
a person. It's not just murder murders. Murders probably the
number one on the list that can cause.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It yeah, yes, even extreme joy, extreme love.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
You know, people can leak this emotion, yes, and it
literally comes out of us on a quantum level, and
it's probably a type of matter and it gets stuck
into objects like you know, any whole thing. Right. And
there's a movie called to Catch a Killer and it
was a person who had They to just grab an
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object and talk about the person who was associated with
that object, and they use the psychic who was holding
objects that the person who was murdered had. She described
how he was killed, where he was at, how he felt,
the nature of the wound, where the body was dumped,
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and details about who the killer was and all of
that from just touching objects. So I'm like, well, that's
energy of thought. Yes, And if you look at that,
you go into a place that's just got tons of energy,
like some old castle in England or something, and it's
got all this energy. Maybe it's not even actual spirits
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of the deceased, but it's just this residual.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Energy the fabric of whatever, and especially if a lot
of living has gone on in those walls between those walls.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
And some people have a knack for playing the recording back,
they're only perceiving it and the energy. It's audio, it's visual,
it's tactile. They can taste, they can smell, they can
feel temperatures, textures. They get all of this energy because
it's cognitive. It's from the brain. All of the input
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going into the brain is coming out of a person
for many, many years or whatever. And then they go
in there and they can sense it. And in some
cases they can play back or recording. They could see
something in the past that happened. So is that really
a ghost there or are they just play in a recording.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Which is a lot of times what they consider residual hauntings,
which is there's no intelligence, it's just maybe something that
happened on a loop, kind of like a repetition.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yep, And yeah, so that's a recording haunting. And then
they call sentient hauntings are slightly different because you can
actually interact with them, so there's a difference there. Then
you got this Another category number two is artificial entities. Okay,
from Tibetan mysticism, the beltmunks were supposedly able to create
tulpas I wrote about that in this book kind of
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a sci fi book, and he creates a tulpa of
his deceased wife because he's a quadriplegic just stuck into bed.
And he knew about this from research when he was
a kid, and so he thought, well, I got locked
in syndrome and I'm paralyzed entirely on my body and
I can't even talk. Trap what do I do with
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my time? I'm going to visualize my wife standing at
the foot of my bed. And he does this for
a couple of years, day in, day out, until somebody
else walks into his room and actually sees his wife
standing at the foot of his bed, and that's the
premise of the story. And then eventually it leads to
his real wife coming back and inhabiting the body, possessing
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the body, because disapparently can happen too. If you create
enough energy with your thoughts, it creates like an artificial body.
It's composed of some sort of exotic matter, and real
entities that are centric could come along and possess it.
There is a legend of a tulpa that was created
a Tibetan monastery or you know, a Tibetan place where
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they had their temples, and this tulpa ended up losing
weight and becoming sentient and sort of doing its own thing,
and it would wander around the temple. At first they
created it and actually did chores for them, But then
it got a mind of its own and lost weight.
It changed its apparents and started doing its own thing.
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So it probably got possessed.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
As there was this lady called Alexandra David Neil on
the turn of the century. She was all of these
women that she's snuck you know, one time, Tibet was
a forbidden place. You could not go into that country,
you know, have you're a foreign army. She snuck in
there disguised as a monk. She had like a the
equivalent of a sharpa uh, you know, and they treked
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in there and she kind of sluck in there like
basically just like and she studied. She she went all
over the Orient, and she studied all these different mystical practices.
But she did that thing with a tulpa, and she
says she started to imagine like a little monk. It's
just that eventually got it, like you said, then other
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people started seeing it and it started getting away from her.
In other words, it started to develop and do its
own thing. Yeah, So she got to the point she goes,
I gotta stop it. I gotta like shut it down.
It shut it down, Yeah, and of its own on
its own.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah. It could be that the energy of thought can
actually give sentence if you put enough cognitive energy into it.
But I think it's more likely that something's coming along
and saying, oh, here's a battery, Yes, I'm going to
in Astral projection is another act nation of what a
ghost might be. There might be people ash projecting and
not even knowing it. There's a story about this lady
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who kept having these dreams of this house and she'd
be wandering around this house and she just knew the
floor plan of the house, and she was telling her
husband about it, and they were looking for a house
at the time, and so like they just first at
first assumed that, you know, we've been looking for houses all,
you know, all over the place, and you're just thinking
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about it so much that you got this dream house
in your head, right right. But then they're driving along
one day and she's like, stop the car and they
stopped in front of this house and she's like, that's
the house. I know the floor plan of that house.
I know it's in the backyard. I know it's in
every room of that house. And she's like, I got
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to go. I gotta talk to the people. We have
to buy this house. This is the dream house. And
it was for sale too, right, it was a for
sale sign in front. So get out and go up
to knock on the door. The people were home. Lady
opens the door and she like looks at the woman
standing there and she freaks like why does a sheet
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and slams the door. So it takes a little while,
but they managed to get the lady to talk to them,
to open the door, talk to them, and she said
that this lady had been in their house scaring the
crap out everybody in the middle of the night and
all times of the day and she would just like
vanish in front of people. And that's why they were
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selling the house, because it was scaring.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
The crap out of them.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah, so there's that. Then there's alternate dimensions, parallel realities,
alternate timelines now here. I don't know if I mentioned
this story, but this my sister had an experience that
kind of goes into this category. This could be time
traveler e T Ghost Portal Demand mentioned something we don't
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know what category this falls into. My sister used to
live for a short period of time, I think maybe
six months to a year. She got a job as
a caretaker on an island in the middle of the
Mississippi River. So the Mississippi River is so big that
in this particular place, the island was five miles wide
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and eight miles long. Wow. And the river's pretty wide
on both sides of the island too, And you had
to take a ferry to get there. It was no electricity,
it was completely off grid, no phone, no electricity. And
we got to go visit her once in the wintertime. No, no,
it wasn't winter.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
We went and we rode the ferry there, and then
they had a little tractor with a trailer and we
would sit on the bales of hay and then they
would put the trailer back. And they were in a
shack in the middle of the island down on the
south it was in the center, and then further on
in the northern side of the island, and they were
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next to this hunting lodge and that was you know,
they were caretakers of the lodge. And it wasn't hunting
season most of the year, but they had to take
care of the lodge, make sure everything was good to go.
It wasn't just left fallow, if you know, something happened
to it during the rainy season or snowy. It would
snow there too sometimes. And there was one other guy
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on this entire island, and he was way over on
the north side of the island, over five miles away.
So needless to say, they never got visitors. Extremely isolated
and enough to make you kind of lose your marbles.
I mean, that's why she left, you know. It's like
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she at first she liked it though, you know, it's like, oh,
this is awesome. You know, I get to keep you
here and commune with nature, right her and her husband there.
One night, her husband's on the couch in the living
room cleaning his rifle, and suddenly the front door opens
and a guy walks in, and he's like that we
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don't get visitors right this.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
But I mean, is this a stranger or is this
a guy that's on the other side of the island.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It is not the guy on the other side of
the island.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
This is a young, blondhaired guy wearing some kind of
military looking type uniform. Okay, he didn't want to James,
my brother in law, didn't want to say, like necessarily
it was civil war, for sure. It was military kind
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of sort of military type uniform. And he did notice
his his shoes were spotless. In fact, his entire uniform
not wet. It was flowing very nice, and his shoes
were shiny, like sparkly shiny, like he just did a
spit polish on those suckers.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
And the behavior of the guy is what's interesting. He
was sentient. He walked in and he's like looking around
and like what is this? And he looks at James
and he gets this goofy smile on his face, like
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and then he waves, turns around, walks out and shuts
the door. My sister was in the kitchen when it happened,
and she since something was off, and she poked her
head around the corner just in time to see his
pants leg go through the door and shut the door.
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And she looked at James and he was just in shock,
and she's like, what was that. James leaps off the couch,
gun parts going everywhere. He runs over to the door,
tries to open it. It's locked. His bolt lock. He
undoes the locks and shoves the door open. The dogs
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on the front porch are laying in front of the
door against the door.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
And he has to shove the dogs out of the way.
And he's looking around. It's nighttime, it's snowing. There's mud
on the ground, no footprints, you know, snow you'd have
been able to see. Oh nothing. That guy just gone.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
He disappeared.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
He came back in, and my sister fell on the
ground and started crying. And my sister doesn't cry. She's
seen some really freaky stuff in her life, messing with
weegi board when she was a kid that flew across
the room and different stuff that my sister experienced, but
this totally wigged her out and they had no idea
(40:57):
what it was. The weirdest thing about it, though, was
his behavior. It was almost like a cosmic mistake had
been made, like he meant to go somewhere else. Maybe
a different time could have went to go change the
course of the Civil War. For example, a lot of
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Civil War activity was fought on that island. You can
go in private.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I was gonna ask you since this island, I.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Mean, yeah, it was a highly contested strategic place, and
so there was a lot of fighting there. Another day
that they were there, they heard an explosion and the
ground vibrated and they didn't know what the hell that was.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And let's face it, this is an island.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
It's like, yeah, so this this person could have been
from like another dimension or something like that.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
He looked physical, like a physical flesh and blood.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Dude, right, it wasn't none of that fuzzy.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Right right. Okay, So category number five actual spirits of
the deceased. Okay, the traditional thought of what a ghost is. Okay,
I obviously I think that that's real because the Bible
talks about Abel's blood client crying out from the earth,
and in Leviticus it says the life of the flesh
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is in the blood. So if you take that translation,
you like read the life of Abel's flesh has cried
out from the ground. So that's a ghost in the
traditional sense of what we think a ghost is. As
a kid, I had seen demons before.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Really, how do you know? Let me ask you this,
how did you know there were demons? Did they?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
They were about two and a half feet long or so,
two and a half to three feet long. Semi transparent,
green and semi transparent, and they had these two black
holes for eyes in this frown, black frown of a mouth,
and they were swarming all over the room. And when
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I woke up in the middle of the night, they
saw me and they swooped up into my face and
they projected terror. Were you the only ones? Yes? They
felt extremely hideous evil. They loved to inflict the fear
(43:25):
on me, and all I could do was close my eyes.
And they also had the ability to paralyze me. I
tried to get out of the bed, I couldn't move.
I tried to yell to my brother on the other
side of the room, and I was.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
About to ask you, did you have any of your
siblings in the room with you?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah? All that came out was I couldn't I couldn't yell.
It just this really light whisper came out. And I
periodically opened my eyes, and every time I did, they'd
see me and swoop down and I'd have to close
my eyes again and keep testing Can I move? Can
I move? I wanted to get up and turn the
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light on right.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I was paralyzed all night, awake, terrified all night until
the first light at dawn came into the room, and
their numbers started to diminish. And then finally, when the
first bit of real light entered the room from the sun,
they were all gone and I was able to finally move.
So I know that I didn't dream it, because I
was awake all night in absolute terror. So those were actual,
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real demons and I saw them. But then there's there's
actual ghosts like Abel. He was not bad. What's the
reason for that? Why would God even allow that? Well,
my theory is that ghosts serve the purpose of being
beacons of injustice. They're known as the ground is cursed.
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Spilt blood killing from murder will curse the ground that
sends the and the underworld can like creates a portal,
and beings from the underworld can come into this realm
through these portals where you have cursed ground.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
So you're basically saying that the violence or whatever that
let's say happen let's say on a piece of land. Yes, basically, oh,
it makes it like a portal, or it's easier for
it to become a portal.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
It's easier. Yes, it's porous and things can come through.
So the purpose of this is first of all, this
shouldn't have been a killing, and it needs to be rectified,
and it shouldn't be concealed. The truth must be revealed,
and so that creates this legal argument for these beings
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who were unjustly murdered to cry out for justice. Right,
And that's what happened with Abel, and I think that's
what happens with other people and their good spirits in
some case and something terrible happened to them. But the
also side effect of that is that because the veils here,
or that the veil is thin there, other things can
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come through as well. I see, So I think that
that might be what's happening there. But then there's also
the good version of that. Like my great grandmother when
Grandpa came to visit her, I think he came from heaven, right,
So there was a portal of a good kind. And
here's another interesting thing that I seem tend to see
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this trend with curses. You look into the past, and
these like these recording phenomenon tend to look at something
that happened in the past to expose it, to reveal
the truth, such as a murder that happened in the past, Right,
so curses look into the past, blessings and holy ground
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looks into the future. And I think that that's why
people who were like the profits of all Holy Man,
we tend to see into the future, or if they
had angelic visitations, a lot of times those would be
accompanied with a prophetic vision ability to see things to come.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
So well, let me let me ask you something, because
I tell people, you know, for all, there's so many
crimes that sometimes never get recognized. You know, even here nowadays,
of serial killers, they have dumping grounds, and some of
them are discovered, but I think there's a lot of
them that never are right. You know, they're desolate and
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finally there's really nothing left to find.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Kind of deal, right, But I guarantee you those dumping
grounds are majorly haunted.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm sure they are, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
Absolutely. You go to places where there's a lot of
killing in bloodshed, they're not good places and you can
even get sick being there.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I mean, ask you, since you were in the military,
what do you think of battlefields?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
They are generally haunted. Some of the best ghost photography
ever conducted was the Battle of Gettysburg where that was fought.
You could still you could see them walking around. Probably
if you went there tonight with a camcorder you could
catch it or your cell phone. These days, i'd seen
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them like walking around a cannon and different things. I
know part of what aids it is that they leave
a lot of the original stuff there with all that
energy associated with it, and I think that energy just
makes it easier for them to manifest. And these are
like mostly recordings. When they were making the movie Gettysburg,
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I believe it was. Yes, there's a famous story that
goes with that movie, and I read it in a book,
so the author probably vetted it out pretty good, i'd
like to think. But some of the actors, they're all
dressed in their Civil War outfit, had blood on him
and stuff, very realistic, right, And they stopped shooting and
they went to take a break and they went over
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to this rock and they had their sandwiches and stuff
on the rock, and this dude comes through the brush
off to the side because they were in this clearing
where the main battle was fought, and they thought he
was one of the actors. And he came stumbling up
to him and they're like, oh, he's he's acting it
out really good. And he looks hurt, you know, and
(49:28):
his leg was shot and okay, and he said, oh, man,
keep keep it up, keep up the fight, you know.
And he reaches into his pocket and he pulled out
a few musket balls and he says, I have a
few despair and he held out his hand and they're
like okay, and one of the actors put his hand out,
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and the guy dropped the musket balls into his hand
and then disappeared right in front of him. They even
smelled the guy's stench right right. They were like, man,
this dude went off. He even made method acting to
a new level. Man, And and then he just vanished
right in front of him. And they took the musket
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balls to town and had him uh looked at by
a museum and they said, yeah, they're genuine. That's an
interesting story. Kind of makes you think.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
That that that that must have been.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Like created some kind of a portal, not necessarily just
a ghost, but actually a portal that had.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
So much solid enough they thought person.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, and maybe that he did wander through a portal
that was created because of that energy and passed some
physical matter through the portal and then vanished. So, uh,
there's a lot of interesting things going on here, and
then like category number six, it's trans dimensional entities. And
I already mentioned Bigfoot probably told I don't know if
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I told my story Bigfoot story of a friend of
mine I lived in our Arkansaw that when he was
a kid, he and some friends were dropped off in
the woods to hunt, and you know, stay overnight in
the woods, and then there one of them's dad came
back to get him. The next day. They were gonna
go hunting for deer, and he shot the deer, and
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it was the brush was so thick. He was like, man,
you guys are gonna try. If we all went together
to the other side of that ridge to get it,
we probably wouldn't find it. The brush is too thick
in here. But I could see where I hit it
from here, So I'll stay here. I'll keep it in
my scope and I'll navigate you guys to it. While
the other guys were making their way to it, they
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heard him screaming up a storm. And when they got back,
they're like, we didn't find nothing, And he said, yeah,
you were like ten foot away from this thing that
grabbed the buck. He said he was looking through the
scope and something stepped into the picture, grabbed the antlers,
flipped that whole seven hundred pound buck over his shoulder
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like it was a rag doll, and stepped into the
brush and disappeared. And he they were like ten fifteen
feet away from it, and they didn't see it. And
he's like, how the hell could you not see that?
It was huge? And they're like, what was it? A bear?
He didn't want to say what it was, right, but
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you know, it grabbed a buck and flung it over
his shoulder and left, so they were like bigfoot. Obviously
they decided to hunt it because he got pissed. He's like,
that was a twelve point buck. Let's split up into
two teams of two and look for our buck. You know,
it couldn't have gone far with that. They're heavy. They
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hunted around, they heard they smelled this horrible skunk smell
on and off. They were hearing footsteps all around him,
and this thing was just messing with him. When they
got back to their camp, they had all their food
hoist it up into a tree and there in a net,
and the net was slashed open. Something had climbed the
tree with these claws and slashed the net. They had
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cans of beans that were ripped open in half wow
and eaten. And they're like, this is the damn just
weirdest looking bear I ever saw. I could do something
like that exactly. And so they decided to stay awake
at night, uh too scared to go to sleep. They
were gonna do They were gonna do shifts right on
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one guy on guard duty around midnight. The one guy
that's on guard duty, you got this big bonfire going.
He's gotta he's got to do number two. He's like, well,
I don't want to do it right here next to
the fire. That'll be uncool, you know, But I don't
want to go too far away either. So he grabbed
his rifle. Everything's ready, he's ready to shoot and everything,
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and he goes over to a tree and around the
corner of the tree and he leans the rifle against
the tree, drops his pants and he's going and right
at the most vulnerable point, suddenly this thing is right
in front of him, Like, let me just how does
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something eight hundred pounds nine pounds.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
I think they're just really good at camouflage and just
being real still, I think that they're masters.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
Of that well. This thing was just suddenly right in
front of him, and it was looking down at him,
and before he could grab the weapon, it lightning fast
reached down, grabbed the rifle, snatched it up, snapped it
in half like a twig, and slammed both pieces of
the rifle down. And guys like, okay, Bigfoot's pissed. This
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thing was was really upset that they came. They killed
the buck, which might have been his friend for all
they knew. Yeah, and and then they had the audacity
to try to hunt him, and he was pissed, and
so he made his presence known. He he could have
just pinched this guy's head and killed him. He could
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have done it with one hand, just grip him and
killed him. This thing was so strong, but it snapped
the rifle kind of like this is my home, and
then it took like one step and then was gone.
And so the way the guy had described it, this
thing was like walking all around him and stuff, and
they could smell it and everything, but it's like it
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was invisible. And so that leads me to believe that
the Bigfoot might have been a kind of nephelm. So,
according to the Book of Jashure and then lightly touched
on in the book of Enoch the nephilem, which were
these angel hybrids, also crossed with animals, and that is
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why when people talk about seeing demons, they talk about
things they described them as looking like chimmeras a lot
of the time, like part human characteristic, part animal character.
You know, this person with bat wings, horns, tails, scales,
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but a human face. You know, all kinds of bizarre
descriptions of what demons look like and their chimmeras. And
that's because these these fallen angels were crossing with all
kinds of animals. They were actually living, physical creatures at
one time, and they died and their ghosts are now demons.
The word the Hebrew word rafaem translates as giant and
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also shades their spirits, same exact word. So you can
look in the Hebrew there and say, oh, where did
demons come from? Did God create them? Nope, fallen angels
created them through reverting to their former reproductive state. You know,
when an angel angels I believe were born like us, reproductive, Okay,
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and then they go through a translation just like we will.
In the future. Those who are saved will be translated
into this higher non reproductive nation, non reproductive state of being,
or we'll be glorified and we'll have abilities, and we'll
be like the angels, as Jesus said in Looke twenty
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thirty six. So if angels, if we're going to be
like the angels, then maybe the angels used to be
like us. They used to be reproductive. That's why these angels,
these fallen angels in Genesis six, they started turning away
from God, they started reverting to a former nature, and
then women started looking attractive to them. Because that was
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another thing that I saw in Genesis six when I
first started reading the Bible. Why would an angel, a
totally non reproductive being, even be attracted to a human.
It doesn't make any sense. There's no biological understanding for that,
and you know, to make sense out of it from
a biological, scientific perspective, used to be reproductive. Jesus didn't
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say they don't ever reproduce. He just said they don't
because they were translated. He didn't say they didn't used to.
And so I think that they were just like us
and that they translated. And so when you get this
this reversion where they revert to a former state of being,
and then they're they're sinning by recrossing with animals and
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humans and creating all of these creatures, and then they're
just naturally bent on evil. Their they're offspring and the
the Bigfoot, though I don't think he's entirely bad. And
I think that there might be some of these these
creatures out there that are like these hybrids, that that
maybe they've they've deluded themselves out recrossing, reproducing with animals
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or something like that at the time that they have
less and less of that, and there might be a
way for them to be saved. I mean, I've even
debated that, like, because the Book of Younot goes into
detail about these fallen angels wanting to get back into
God's good grace and they're all talking to Email, you know,
like hey, you know, put in a good word for us,
and God said, no, no, you blew it. Uh. And
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then the fact that you're you're asking for that while
you're doing all this other stuff and polluting the genetics
of of the world and trying to destroy the planet
and everything I created here. No, so most of them
are bad, but maybe there's some good ones out there.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
I don't know. All right. Well, and you know, and
you know, I've also heard that maybe in some cases,
what let's say with the Bigfoot is like a kind
of like an experiment that didn't go the way they
wanted and they just like whatever.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Yeah, the legends of Bigfoot or ancient though, well beyond it.
You know, before we were messing with genetics.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
Now, well, but I don't mean recent, I mean as
in ets or something. Oh, that they were kind of
fooling around, like an island of Doctor Moro kind of deal.
Speaker 3 (59:59):
Right, So, the nepheline angle is one angle, and the
fact that Bigfoot seems to maybe have supernatural stealth abilities
lens credit to that. However, there's also this other category
of entities. It could be that there's this whole wide
range of transdimensional entities the God created part of God's
natural creation. Now, descriptions that I've heard of these entities
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called elementals, most of those sound like their demons. They don't.
The stories associated with elementals usually doesn't sound like a
benevolent nature spirit. Yeah, but but I don't think that
it's impossible for there to be a good one. What
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I encountered in the jungle of Panama could have killed.
Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Me that they're kind of indifferent to us unless we
start messing around them.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I'll just ignore you because I really don't understand you,
and you know, like alone, I.
Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Think it's like an animal, like a curious animal. The
one that that I encountered kind of struck me as
that although it was pretty intelligent to get into my
head and transmit its location to me let me know
where it was at, even when it was invisible, I
felt it moving around. I'm like that was the communication.
It was telepathically communicating to me. So uh. From my
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Dungeons of Dragons days, I knew I memorized the monstra man.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
It was elemental for that particular area of the jungle.
Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Or I think it might have been a will of
the wisp if you read about the legend of the
Will of the Wisp, but it also could have been
an et like a probe or something like that. I
do believe that what it was was sentient because I
felt its presence and it was like, hey, I'm here
and I'm alive and I'm watching you so and that
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feeling of being watched it projected it and that's how
I knew where it was at. It was projecting its
its awareness of me, uh and made me aware of
it even though it was invisible during those times while
it was moving around. Then it would flash and I knew,
like it would move around and I'm like looking right
where I knew it was gonna flash, and then it
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would flash. So that's how I wanted.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Was it curious about you or did it just want
you to go away? Or was it trying to warn you?
Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Like Leaves, I think it was checking us out. It
went straight to our position from you know, eight hundred
meters out in the jungle, and it came straight to
our position and then it stopped until I went out
and I'm like, you know, doing my wee people of Earth.
You know, we come in peace. I was playing James T.
(01:02:48):
Kirk first Contact, right. I was loving it. You know.
My team leader was freaking out though on me, you know,
and I'm like, hey, you give me a director order
all you want, but who gets a first count on
her first contact experience? You know, I'm not passing this up.
I will disobey at brect order to do that. And
(01:03:09):
he finally hushed up. You're like, okay, don't be surprised
if the thing that kills you. It could have killed
me already, you know. And I had the M sixty on.
I'm like, well, I'd better take that off, you know,
doesn't look good on the optics. Yeah, but sixties seven
hundred and fifty rounds of ammunition ready to unload. So
(01:03:30):
I'm like, I know, I disarmed myself. And he's like,
you dumb ass, you know, And I'm like, if it
wanted to kill me, it would have already. So I
don't think that that was a bad thing. It was.
It just since and it did a whole perimeter sweep,
went around, flashing on and off as it went all
the way around on a three hundred and sixty degrees
(01:03:50):
and then it went down to the jungle and did
the same thing to the two other positions in the
down in the jungle. So it was acting like a
probe or a scout, you know, like checking us out,
Like what are you doing out here? What are you
all about? What's going on? Well? Why are you in
my jungle? People don't stay out here. It's in a
hospitable place. Your nuts being out?
Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Let me ask you something. Was this area? Was it
like far from any village? It was like literally in
the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
It was behind Fort Sherman, a military base. They didn't
bother to put a fence on the base because the
jungle was filled with deadly snakes and spiders and the
ground moved with ants. There was literally this one area
that was like probably a good five hundred square feet
(01:04:41):
where the ground was moving, and I would say it
was a carpet of ants about two inches thick, and
you could not walk through there. If you did, ants
would immediately just swarm up on you and eat you
a lot, like if you if you got paralyzed or
something happened to you got hurt and you fell down
on that. Yeah, that guy from ant Venom. They were
(01:05:05):
big ass red ants. So it was bad.
Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I mean, I know there's a type of ant. My god,
I can't remember what they that they have them in
South and Central America that when they come through, basically
everything flees before it because they'll eat everything.
Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Oh yeah, These were clearing out the portions of the
jungle and and it was mating seasons, so they were
flying on top of it. And I had my body
coated with bug juice, and those things would jump on
my arm and be like you know, they loved it.
They didn't care. You could put all the bug juice
you wanted, they would, you know, drink it like it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Was yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
And then they had spiders as big as my hand,
and they weren't trantulas, that's just the bugs. The plants
it had spikes and thorns, and then there would be
sticky plants that touch you and your skin would start burning.
The plants were inhospitable, the insects were in hospitable. It
was like ninety five percent humidity and hot and raining
(01:06:12):
a good chunk of the time, like at least fifty
percent of the time. And and then there were like
these pits. They had snakes out there. A bush master.
A bush master chased these guys through the jungle like
a couple hundred yards really, or before it finally stopped chasing.
They had panthers. The base had its own zoo.
Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I was gonna say, yeah, I see now why they
didn't need a fence like this, Like all.
Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Right, yeah, it had its own zoo of animals. And
we had our training of like here's what to be
careful for out here in the jungle, all of these
creatures and stuff. And then uh, okay, so have fun tonight.
You know, you're going to sleep out there. And so
we had to sleep out in these positions in the
in the middle of that in hospitable, horrific place. But
(01:06:56):
I found something. I encountered something out there that wasn't
in their zoo. Yeah, and uh that ball of light.
You know, it's a very diverse ecosystem out.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Did you ever ask around to see if anybody had
ever seen that before? Or were you guys the first ones?
Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
No? I didn't ask around because of what happened. So
the next day, nobody's saying anything, okay. And so I
already had a reputation as being a euro My room
had all these paranormal books, you know, dream interpretation. I
had a decateric cards and the crystal ball and all
this stuff. Like I said, I was all into this
(01:07:36):
new age stuff. Book on ash for projection, you know
all this. And and I was my main group of
friends that I hung out with played dungeons and dragons together, right,
And so they knew that my I was like not
at all your typical army grunt. And I was the
(01:07:56):
brunt of many jokes. But on that night, my corporal
was on my turf, and so I got the change,
turn the tables on him and be like, you know, dude,
you know, nope, this is not a laser. This is
not some kind of technology. And you know, lasers require
a straight line of sight. There's no way the aircraft
(01:08:17):
carry out in the gulf. He was speculating, right, well,
maybe it's a laser. You know, laser floating around down
here in the trees is completely invisible. I have a
MPBS seven night vision goggles. You ain't seen nothing with these.
So no, this is a sitch identity, and I am
going to communicate with it. And he was like he
(01:08:38):
was freaking out. So the next day I'm like, okay,
Corporal Stinger, what was that should be reported? He's like,
he didn't say anything, and everybody's just kind of quiet,
and I'm like, well, I know that you guys had
to see it too, And I'm like, William, it went
(01:08:58):
straight towards your position. It was just blowing ball alight
and and it communicated to me. Corporal Singer was right here.
He saw the whole damn thing. Corporal Singer wasn't saying anything.
And and then when he's like, uh, might seem like
a firefly or something like firefly. We've been seeing fireflies
(01:09:20):
the whole time we've been here, you know, the little, tiny,
little green things about the size of my pinky nail.
You know, this was the size of a soccer ball.
It was pure electricity, and it was so bright when
it flashed you could probably see it for a half mile.
It light up the whole And then I'm like, what
(01:09:42):
about you, Romero, and and he's like looking at me,
and he's like, no, might have seen something. That's all
I could get out of him. And then and then
I'm trying to pry it out of him, and I'm like,
come on, you know, what the hell and and my
corporal says, well, I know what it was, and everybody
(01:10:04):
looked at him. It was like a ef Hutton moment,
all quietly, like, all eyes on my corporal and he's like,
Miler summoned it. And then they all started laughing, and
it's like, oh, yeah, you know, you're all casting spells.
Where's his where's his cauldron? You know, where's his spellbook?
Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
And they started making fun of me, and they turned
into a roast desk succession that went on for like
fifteen minutes straight. They just wouldn't shut up, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, So I dropped it because those guys
knew how to tear you down and wear you on.
You know, I couldn't escape them. I mean, they were
depriving us of sleep at the time, and we weren't
(01:10:44):
eating good and we weren't sleeping good.
Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
And You're like, wow.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Was it an all time low? And so I'm already
just like you know what, just seeing that increased my morale.
So I'm just gonna leave it at that and let
these idiots just do their thing and and leave it
alone with that. But I and even to this day,
I made friends with one of the guys on Facebook, right,
and I'm like, dude, you were there that night, what
did you see? He didn't say nothing back, and I'm like, serious, man,
(01:11:13):
even now, you don't want to o man. So it
would be fine to find my corporal. I know his name.
I even have a social security number because we had
orders and they would just hand out social security numbers
like candy back then. But he was a truck driver
that lived in Michigan, and I'd love to be able
(01:11:34):
to track him down one of these days.
Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
But I mean, it's not really admitting it to you,
because if they really started like talking about it, it's like, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
That really was real, right, yeah, yeah, I don't know
how to incorporate that into my sense of reality, so
I would rather just push it aside and pretended yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yes, the that's gonna mess with my world. This is
the world I operate in, and stuff like that doesn't
exist in my world. I talk about it, then guess
what And then the thing is this, Well, if that exists,
then what else does out there?
Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
As if the jungle is not inhospitable enough, sure we
have to encounter something from another world. Yes that, and
I've I've seen shows enough shows about you know, this
whole classification of orbs, right, but this wasn't just some
sort of semi transparent thing. This thing was like extremely powerful.
(01:12:42):
It was pure soccer ball and purely imagine the light
on a camera, you know, as bright as a camera
flash and flashy, because it would blind you if you
were looking at it. You couldn't see for like thirty seconds,
you know, And it was extremely bright, and it gave
(01:13:04):
me the impression that it was made out of electricity.
And it probably could have electrocuted and killed us. But
it wasn't ball lightning because I read about that ball
lightning zips around radically. It doesn't like hover and then
flash on and off intermittently. You know. It's a ball
of light that's consistent and zips around and then hits something.
(01:13:27):
I had a radio next to me, a field radio
with a six foot whip antenna and a battery, you know,
a backpack full of lithium batteries. And then I also
had my sixty, a big chunk of metal. So there's
two lightning attractors right there, and the thing was like
in front of me. It moved straight to my position
(01:13:49):
and stopped instead of grounding out. If it was ball lightning,
it would have grounded out. So yeah, I went, yeah,
it was a lie and it was checking us out.
And that's what I explained to everybody, and then they
were just making fun of me of it. So I'm like, Okay, well,
I guess you know that was just for me.
Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I guess was there any you might not know or
maybe not? Was that location close to any like ancient
like Messo American, you know, so they.
Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Have these It's hard to tell because the tungle grew
in over everything right exactly. There there were areas where
I saw large blocks covered. Yes, however, this was next
to the Panama Canal. Okay. They were batteries when they
(01:14:43):
called them batteries, these big concrete structures that they built
when when they were digging the Panama Canal by hand, okay.
And there were tunnels that that went down to the
Panama Canal in these in these a bandoned batteries and
the Special Forces were actually out there in the jungle
and they had taken over one of these batteries and
(01:15:05):
refurbished it and they lived out there. So you know,
interesting looked like an ancient city in a way because
all these vines and stuff covering these you know, I
have some pictures of it, you know, of some of
them that were abandoned and we went in there. But
there were other areas where there were like large blocks
that could have been concrete, could have been carved stone,
(01:15:27):
and they were like covered with vines and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Because you know, a lot of them. They've discovered them
now with the satellite imagery that they're basically discovering them.
Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Oh yeah, And this was near the Caribbean Sea. There
was a cliff that we actually went to. There was
an obstacle course out there actually that we went on,
really harsh obstacle course and this net that was about
one hundred feet long that went over this cliff, very
dangerous and you could climb down the net, which we did.
And then there was this flat area there was like
(01:15:57):
a couple hundred yards where you could just walk and
the water was maybe a couple of inches deep and
it's the Caribbean Sea and you're looking out over the
Caribbean Sea. And then those batteries. They had these tunnels,
these man made tunnels that went down and I was
curious and I looked at one and I asked my
team there. I'm like, I want to explore that tunnel,
and he's like, you're crazy enough to go in there.
(01:16:18):
You could be a tiger and you know, or a panther.
We knew there were panthers because they had a panther
in the zoo and I think panthers basically just a
mountain lion that's black but.
Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Right like a jaguar.
Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
What do they have?
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Yeah, if you look at them, you can still see
the rosettes on.
Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Them that you know, panther Mountain Lion and they that.
Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Dark thing, yeah, yeah, solid.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I'm like, that's okay, I got an you know, let
me borrow on M sixty or in M sixteen. You know,
I don't want to You went in there. I went
in there. Oh boy, And I going in and then
I pull out my flashlight and I'm going and I
noticed that the roof of this little tunnel looked strange,
like this clumb stuff. And I first thought it was
(01:17:01):
like moss, uh, but it looked more like a dark
colored fur. And I'm looking at it was bats, thousands
of them all Oh my covering the ceiling of this tunnel.
Oh crap, What would happen if I scared these bats
thousands of bass I'd be trying to get out of
(01:17:22):
this tunnel. It'd probably get me all caught up, maybe
bite me or something. And then I can't shoot in him.
Sixteen at a bat thousands It's totally ineffective. This is
not going to work. So I did in about face.
So I only went in like fifteen twenty feet, and
you know, like and I think the tunnel just would
eventually went down until it filled with water because it
(01:17:43):
was going down to the Panama canal. They used these
where like they were taking shovels full of dirt and
then they would take it. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
I was going to ask you, is is this basically
how they were taking the dirt out from.
Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
I think that that's what they used them for. And
they you know, they just abandoned all of that stuff there.
But but the batteries that were there, they were they're
not a battery like you charge, but they call them
batteries that like bunker type things. They were reinforced concrete
bunkers built in there with rooms and stuff. And uh,
(01:18:16):
those were kind of interesting, you know, these abandoned structures.
Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Out there that this place became like a bathhouse.
Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Yeah, that was a bathouse. And I was like, no, no,
thank you. Very interesting. The jungle.
Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
And that, Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that Again
I think, like I said, some of the stuff they're
finding them now because satellite imagery, because everything's overgrown. People.
I tell everybody, my god, even now here I live in,
not the jungle, but vegetation grows exponentially. When you get
fat and rain forget it. It doesn't take long before
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things get covered up.
Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
And then the the last category agoes. I was going
to mention is a phenomenon called retro recognition, which I
could have mentioned it and some of the things that
I was talking about, some of these things bleed over.
Retro recognition is where it's kind of like the veil
gets thin, but rather than like the underworld or you know,
(01:19:18):
the divine realm, it's it's parallel dimensions, alternate realities, or
seeing into the past, seeing into the future. I mean,
there's there's accounts of people like they would walk into
a room and things look different in the room, and
they look outside and they see old stagecoach looking cars
driving by, and you know, horses out on the street,
(01:19:38):
and they're like, what the heck, why are people dressed
like that? And they turn around and they walk out
the room and everything's normal outside of the room. Back
in the room. Yeah, time slit and retro recognition could
be like portals that that somebody can you can maybe
view through into the past. Usually pass into the past,
(01:20:01):
but there have been people that have straight up vanished
Mount Here. Mount Shasta here in California is known for that. Oh,
there was a story of a guy that was with
a friend of his who was just ahead of him
by maybe one hundred feet big slope, flat rocks, no trees,
(01:20:23):
nothing to hide behind, just this flat terrain going up
the side of the mountain. And he stopped, reached over,
took a drink of water, and looked in front, and
his friend was gone. And he never saw him again.
And he's like, I mean, if you fell, it's not
like you're not going to be noticed or not going
(01:20:44):
to be heard. And you know, some people say, well,
maybe he fell and rolled all the way down, and
they're like, well, no, for starters, not steep enough here
for that to even happen. He would just fall. I
would see him right right.
Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
It's not like he's on the cliffs.
Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
And you know what, if he fell, I would have
seen him going. There was over a thousand yards of
space on every way that you can see. How did
the guy manage to disappear so quickly? And he went
up there and searched the area, like, is there a
hole in the ground? Did he fall through it? No,
(01:21:18):
he was just gone, and not just him. There's a
there's a place in New Mexico too where they had
these cave dwellings and this lady and her husband went
there and the husband vanished and he was just you know,
a couple of yards away and just went around a
corner gone. And then people were like, well, no, no,
(01:21:39):
he probably just used that as an excuse and ditched her,
you know, and changed his identity and all this. But
the ladies like, he would not do that. You don't
know him. I know him. He would not do that
to me. And they would take equipment there. They took equipment.
That was one of the places. They took spectrometers and
(01:22:00):
and electromagnetic meters and things like that. And there's spikes
all over the place in that in that area. They're
like something's creating a lot of electromagnetic energy here. This
place is a huge magnet.
Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Yeah, about all these disappearances. And I went to the
National Parks, I like you said, I mean there's some
that are more than others, like Yosemite and like Mount Shasta.
Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Yeah, description four hundred Ligo. It was like that. We
did exercises there four hundred ligg because I was at
Fort Word for two years when it was still around,
and we did we would go up to four hundred liggot,
which is not too far away, used to be the
(01:22:42):
property of First Castle, and they have exotic animals there,
tigers and zebras and stuff back a long time ago.
But now it's a military base and they say that
a meteor uh hit struck there a long time ago.
Because that base is particularly nice to do land navigation,
(01:23:03):
they like to send you there to learn how to
do land navigation because your compasses will just sometimes float around. Okay,
just like now, find where you're at.
Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
You know, how are you gonna get to where you're
going whatever?
Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Exactly. And I've been on many problems where you know,
a five mile march turns into a twenty mile march
because of that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
So, which is supposedly what happens to the Burrita triangle,
but that's another story.
Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Yeah, exactly. And so that that would be another place
where you got these portal things going on. Maybe you
could and with a portal, it's possible you could see
in other dimensions, but maybe also through time for and
in time back in time. In some places the portals
are so strong, which I defined in this book. This
(01:23:50):
is part four the Jimmy Prophet series where he learns
about portals. And there's type one portal, Type two portal,
Type three portal, A type one portal only spiritual energy
like exotic matter can go through it, like ghosts and
stuff like the thinning of a veil when you see
a murder. That's a type one.
Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Let me ask you, do you think that some of
these ets basically they travel, you know, you know how
people think of light years, you know, but yeah, or
intra dimensionally.
Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Yes, they do. Okay, probably most, if not all ET's
that we encounter are transdimensional. Okay, they're not just h
extraterrestrial like some of them are here in a higher
dimension or lower dimension. But I think that the entire
(01:24:43):
cosmos is multi dimensional. Is this planet is multi dimensional
in a lower realm, Earth is smaller in a higher realm,
Earth is a larger planet. And then you got all
these other planets out there, and then they have life
and so the beings that are there, and they have
to create a quantum singularity to fold time space in
(01:25:03):
order to pass through it to travel these great distance.
It's not normal propulsion like you know, stomp on the gas,
you know, let's full throttle. No, they're folding space time
and just passing through this portal. So they're manipulating gravity
to do it. And when they do that, they can
go into different dimensions.
Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Right, And I imagine that part of their technology is
having the ability to say, when you fold it, that's
my destination and that's where you end up at.
Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
How's that exactly the movie Event Horizon horror movie? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Oh man, that's a great movie. It's way out there,
but it's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
It's pretty messed up, but yeah, I mean he basically
they're experimenting with this technology and unfortunately discovered that the
dimension that they opened it up to was Hell. Yes,
and all these bad things were in there and then
mess these people up and then they ended up all dying.
So I'm like, well, for a horror movie, I didn't
(01:26:01):
consider it a B grade. It was really gory, but
I think that there was a slice of reality.
Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I think it was very original considering the you know,
some of these horre very.
Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
And I think what they're doing with cern oh yeah,
you know. I think they might be messing around with
some stuff and possibly tiptoeing into open a portal to Hell.
That's what happens actually in this book.
Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Well, if you look, this is the.
Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Unleashing the prophecy of Revelation nine to one. Uh, It's
just which I think could actually happen in the future.
They could open up.
Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
A portal and there whatever their intent is. If you
go based on their opening ceremonies, there something weird going on.
Oh yeah, okay, this is not like you always think
of all these top scientists.
Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Yeah, you know, Okay. So then there was this other
somewhat related topic of Okay, if we have Bigfoot and
if we had giants in the past and all these
nephlie mareal, how come we don't find their bones blah
blah blah. Oh, we've been finding their bones, and the
Smithsonian dumped them in the ocean, and they've been getting
(01:27:11):
rid of them. And so people were like upset to
hear about that, you know, but I'm like, okay, but
there might be a reason they might want to get
rid of them. If you think about what it is.
It's a demon, right, the physical remains of a demon
of what is now a demon. Something about bones tend
(01:27:32):
to hold residual energy a little bit better than any
other part of the body. The bones tend to stick around.
There's a story in the Bible. A good version of
that is that the prophet Elijah was buried in a
tomb and there was these guys taking somebody to bury
him in the cemetery, and he accidentally dropped the body
and he rolls into the tomb and touched the bones
(01:27:54):
of Elijah and he was resurrected from the dead. So
there was enough residual rual, life force or glory and
power even in his bones after he died to resurrect
somebody from the dead. And that is actually literally in
the Bible. And I took that and I'm like, okay,
(01:28:14):
that makes sense. Now I'm thinking about bones, and my
mind is going through a rolodex of like think of
every scripture I know of about bones and every paranormal
thing I know of about bones. And then it occurred
to me, Okay, why would they want to get rid
of these bones of the nepheline. If they find bones
of giants and they consistently get rid of them, why
(01:28:38):
maybe you wouldn't want to be in a museum at
night they had a demon's body in it, and that
demon and it's my theory too. There's places that are
known as curse ground. If you're watch any of these
Haunts shows, I'll say, yeah, there's a demon here and
it just inhabits this place. We don't know why the
authority here. I think if you were to do an
(01:28:58):
excavation in that area, you might find an ethelne the bones,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
And I've heard the same thing of the Smithsonian, but
I kin't from what I understand, they weren't doing it
for how's this, Oh, because we don't want to house
that artifact of those bones, because God knows, you know,
we would. It was almost like we don't, we just
want to get rid of proof of biblical or something.
Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
You could accuse them that that that they're antagonistic against
the biblical history and that they would want to do that,
but I think that there might also be a natural reason,
like man those bones. So I'll tell you. There's a
museum that was not affiliated with the Smithsonian, Okay, the
Golden Museum in Lima, Peru.
Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
So when I wrote my first book, Aliens in the Bible,
a long time ago, twenty five years ago, I remember
on the internet. The Internet was kind of new back then,
and I was searching for giants and this museum was
had a picture on their website of this human skull
(01:30:10):
that was like this bake, I mean massive, and it
was in a glass case, and I'm like, I got
to go to Lima, Peru. So my pastor had a
friend that was a missionary in Peru, and I'm like, hey,
next time you want to go there, let me know.
I'd like to go there. I want to visit that
museum and see that giant. But of course I was
(01:30:32):
poor back then and I just couldn't find the time
or whatever, and I'd never been there. But years later,
when I was writing the follow up book, I was
researching it and I went to their website and I
didn't see that there anymore. I'm like, what the heck?
Why would you want to get rid of something like that?
If you had that, you could advertise that draw tourism
(01:30:53):
all around the Hey, yeah, we got these bones that
you know that validate what's in the Old Testament, you know, everybody,
come on down. And but it was gone off the website,
so I they had the email addresses there. I emailed
the curator, like what happened to the giant? And the
research I had it originally started as a male and
(01:31:15):
a female giant full skeletons in their archaeological dig documentation.
Archaeologists are very meticulous about I found this I found
this blah blah blah, and you know, the spear wasts
this much. It's made of these kinds of metals. I mean,
they're very detailed in all the notes. So these museums
have been Smithsony museums have been methodically getting rid of
(01:31:37):
their evidence that they ever had things, but they didn't
purge their their notes, their research notes. And there was
a guy that wrote a book and he traveled to
all these museums before they got rid of the notes,
and he documented what they found, and like there was
an Egyptian tomb that was discovered in Arizona, for example,
Egyptian highers. The Egyptians were here, the Vikings were here,
(01:32:01):
the Celts were here, and there's all kinds of evidence.
But the Smithsonian didn't like that. They had their version
of history. And I talked about that in that book.
So they were antagonistic against that, and they wanted America's
history to be a certain way for certain reason. But
(01:32:22):
regarding these bones, I think that there was something else
that was going on. And you know, this place was
not governed by the music.
Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Did they ever tell you what they did with it?
Did he?
Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
I contacted the guy and he said, I don't know
what you're talking about. And I said, I really want
the curator here back in nineteen ninety five. And he
was like, yes, I was, and I don't know what
you're talking about. I mean, completely shut me down. He
didn't want to discuss it, like it disturbed him to
even mention it. And that's when I started thinking, maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
There's you would think of all the artifacts, that's something
he would definitely remember.
Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
I mean, it's like and then there was this other
last thing that I've heard rumor of that there's these
groups like the World Economic Forum that they have these
creepy rituals and stuff and some of these people you
see the outfits, that it's like satanic stuff some of them,
and they have their rituals. Well, I've heard that they
(01:33:18):
have been doing everything they can to get as many
of these bones as they can, really, and what they
do is they involve them in their rituals. And if
you think about it, if the bones really do have
this residual energy in it, yes, probably powerful if you
learned or knew how to harness it. So they might
(01:33:39):
be doing some weird wacky stuff like taking all these
bones and crushing them down into some consolidated medallion or
something and then wear it and then incorporate that into
their rituals, and that they might have hit up the
Smithsonian or you know, paid the Smiths give me everything
(01:34:00):
you got we wanted. Yeah, and the Smithsonians like, be
my guest. You know that's in warehouse thirteen, right, and
you have that whole you know.
Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Or hey, either give us their bones or no more grants. Okay,
RCT more grants for you?
Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Yeah you like that billion dollars we gave you last year.
Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
Well, yeah, no more expeditions. We're not going to fund
the expedition to wherever.
Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
You know, Yeah, we're probably they were the ones that
funded the expeditions that asked for the bones bond.
Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
I think that a lot of these if you look
at some of these trustees, which there were private citizens,
but a lot of times, you know, there were trustees
that they would do the quote unquote vacations and basically
what they were doing was artifact hunting.
Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Yeah, and especially I'm gonna say way back, well a
few years where basically, let's save you in Egypt, you
could take artifacts and mummies and the government, most governments
at that time really didn't give any buddy grief because
you were taking out artifacts. Oh wow, you know now
(01:35:06):
you don't. Now it's tightened up as far as you know,
the the taking out artifacts from another country or you
know or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely so.
Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
But I think these trustees were on the lookout for
certain artifacts while they were just you know, oh, we're
just we're going to tour the Orient, or oh we're
going to go through Europe, or we're going to go
through here.
Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
Yeah, the Indiana Jones Hiller was into that too. He
was trying to find all these artifacts. That's there's a
core of truth to that.
Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
But they wouldn't go on expeditions per se. They would
kind of mask it.
Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
They was a trustee.
Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Like, hey, I'm with my family and we're just going
to take this trip, this extended trip through wherever. But
they were really always what they were.
Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Doing over here for the vacation, and yeah, yes, that's
exactly what they would do.
Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
That's exactly what they were doing.
Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Everybody thinks that these discoveries were these expeditions like where
let's say, when they discovered two commons to them and
stuff like that. A lot of those trustees would ship
back a lot of the things that hey, I just
happened to come across this whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Yeah, and these dudes are they're power hungry. They're weird,
psychopath just they they'll do anything for power and money, sure,
but power. So it really wouldn't surprise me if they're
looking for these things. I would think that neffeline DNA
would be a high commodity too, because these beings have
(01:36:29):
supernatural power. Well, how can I get that supernatural power
for myself? You know, there's these stories you might have
heard of the Giant of Kandahar. Yes, well, I happen
to know a guy and the army sniper who was
in Iraq, So apparently there was a giant in Iraq too.
He was sit there to take out a Taliban target.
(01:36:51):
All right, and I'm still in contact with this guy too,
so it's kind of cool. But he would sit there
to take out a Taliban target. And he when he
showed up at the site and he was observing the village,
he saw at first he thought it was an adult
walking around with some little kids, but the proportion looked
(01:37:12):
a little off, like, okay, isn't that far? You know,
like a half mile. Things should be kind of small, right,
but the proportion seemed like, well, it's this dude and
these little kids, right, And the guy had a dog
under his arm, and but then when he looked through
(01:37:33):
the scope he realized it was a cow. And it
was an adult, like twelve feet tall or something like that,
with a cow under his arm, a full grown cow,
and they were all adults around his knees were adults. Yeah,
And the guy told me the knee caps of this
(01:37:54):
thing was about the top of a humvie and he
shot it with his fifty cow. Could he like even
forgot about his Taliban terrorist target and thought, I'm gonna
shoot that thing obviously. I mean, it was a terrorist
that was there in the camp, so they were all
combatants in his opinion. But this thing was like a
(01:38:17):
weapon of mass destruction. I guess, yeah, that's how he
saw it. And so he shot it and it actually
lived through it and it dropped the cow and ran.
He said that was one of the best shots he
ever made. It was almost a half mile away, but
shot it with a fifty cow and it lived, dropped
(01:38:37):
cal and ran. But he was I tried to get
him to come on one of these shows with me, right,
He's like, hell no, some really bad dudes told me
to keep my mouth shut. And if I have anybody
in my life that I love and I want them
(01:38:59):
to continue to be a part of my life, and
I need to keep my mouth shut.
Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
This guy is kind of people you don't call their
bluff kind of deal.
Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Right. This guy lives out in the middle of nowhere,
off grid. He's got a farm, you know, his own
little ecosystem, chickens and stuff like that. Well, I mean,
he probably has electricity, but he lives out in the
middle of nowhere and he's got his his home set
up kind of like a fortress because he's scared even
(01:39:29):
to this day. And that was like twenty years ago
that that happened. Well it was during the the Iraq invasion.
And he's still scared. And I told him when I
was telling him, trying to say, well, people are talking now,
you know, Gorshets and all those people are all just
laying it out. You know, they got congressional protection now
(01:39:51):
right supposedly, and he's so I finally got him to say, yeah, yeah,
I think I will. But then you know, he still waffles.
You know, last time I emailed him, you didn't want
to reply back, and so you.
Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Know what, and almost you want to think, well, you
know what, have I got to tempt fate?
Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Yeah? I got to track down that that guy, the
Bigfoot guy, too, because he supposedly lives here in Central Valley.
We were in high school together, but I don't remember
his last name, so I'd have to go find a
here book and and then find his picture in there.
I remember his first name and then see if I
can find him. Because there was this other show called
Blurry Creatures, they wanted to talk to him. They liked
(01:40:33):
my Bigfoot story. I'm like, well, I mean I'm second hand.
They're like, no, we want to hear it from the
horse's mouth, you know, right right. So yeah, I'd like
to find him. That's my homework there. I got another
assignment too, Apparently a friend of mine here in Clovis,
Uh there's there's a tunnel that goes under one of
the main roads over here, Herndon, and he took a
(01:40:56):
picture of it, and there's this brass sign that says
a giant human skeleton was found here, that's all it says.
And I'm like, what a weird sign to put. I mean,
it's like solid metal. It costs money to put it
and bolted into this concrete wall. Who the hell put
that there? Where's the giant? Uh So at first I
(01:41:16):
got to find the sign. I went looking for it
this morning actually, and my friend said, well, he will
have to show me where he saw it.
Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Let me tell you, I think sometimes some of these artifacts,
including these bones, sometimes also end up in private collections.
Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Oh yeah, somebody's basement or something.
Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Yeah, somebody that's like, ah, you know what, I don't
need to tell anybody that I've got this. All I
need to know is that I've got it, and I'm you.
Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
Know, the second they tell somebody their house is righted
and it's gone, you.
Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Know, right exactly, It's like, I'll just keep it private.
In that way, nobody knows that I'm the one that's
got the whatever it is fill in the blank. But yeah,
I think a lot of these things do end up
in private collections. Probably probably, Yeah, And that's the only
way sometimes, like you said, to keep it theirs, because
probably never gonna get real burst or you know, nah.
Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
I got the proof. Well, it was that famous sphere
that those people found right. It was a metal sphere
and it would roll around the house by itself, and
the lady she was an actress, so she was well
known in Hollywood. And it was a family that had
this sphere, and it made the news and they talked
(01:42:22):
about it on talk shows and stuff, and well, this
was a while back, like in the seventies or eighties
or something like that. But they found this sphere, this
metal sphere, and it had energy and like it would
move around and do stuff of its own accord. And
eventually some people found in there. It was stolen eventually,
(01:42:42):
but they had pictures of it and stuff, and then
they had been in interviews and everything for enough. There's
another guy too that's down like Mexico. I think that
he supposedly has one of these spheres too, But that
kind of that doesn't seemed to be valid in my
That is more like hoaxy in my opinion. I saw
(01:43:05):
the sphere, it looks like somebody's heart project or something.
It doesn't work. I'm like, interesting story, but it looks like.
Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Yeah, yeah, i'mt me tell you some There's a lot
of stuff I still think, you know, really, in all
things like that, it's the ones that know how to
keep their mouths shut, all right. Yeah, yeah, that like
at all things.
Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
Oh if I if I found it down alien spaceship
or something, I'd be snatching stuff up left and right
and then keeping it.
Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Well you know what. That's that guy that back in
forty seven on Roswell mac Brisel that you know, he
took this thing and thinking he's doing a good thing
and coming forward with what he had found. Later on,
from what I understand, he said he was very very
sorry he had ever like brought it to attention. Not
that he wanted to keep it, but he was very
sorry he had done anything and taking it into you know,
(01:44:01):
to the authorities, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Oh yeah, they gave him, didn't They give him something back?
And it was completely different.
Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Well, he was that from what I understand, after he
took it over there, he was kind of like a
couple of a few days, he was taking him by
the military, and everybody thinks that he got threatened. Yeah,
threatened as in, you're patriotic, but just in case you're
not patriotic enough, we're going to threaten you also to
go with it. Yeah, And they said that before he
(01:44:29):
got picked up, he was talking about it. He was
like excited, and then after he came back it was like,
I'm not talking about this. I don't want to talk
about it. He did that like till he died.
Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
He was like, No, there really is a man in black,
you know, and they're in this book too. You know,
there's a man in white in that book too.
Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
But do you think do you think men in black
are real humans or are.
Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
They probably both? Okay, like might be a couple of
CIA agents with or the I A agent or some
other acronym. Can just imagine no such agency.
Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
If these men in black, let's go with the let's
go with the idea that they're human. You know, you know,
you're basically the the silence. You're the enforcer. You're going
You're gonna go out there and tell whoever's had an
experience or saw something or had some hey shut up.
But at the same time, you know this stuff is
real because otherwise you couldn't be out there, right, Yeah,
(01:45:28):
Can you imagine as you get older, one of two
things is gonna happen. You always gotta be think I'm
gonna get scared because I'm thinking something. Somebody's gonna say
he knows too much, because he seemed too much. Why
because he was a man in black or I'm thinking
(01:45:49):
I imagine he wouldn't even want to tell his family
because I'm always thinking, you know, they can say did
he ever he didn't ever go public per se.
Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Yeah, but I mean there is a guy. I've seen
his video where he came forward. He was really old too. Okay,
Actually there's more than one. Actually one guy was red
into the file, so to speak, and he was spilling
the beans because he had some terminal illness and checking
out within a few months. So he's like, yeah, I'm
(01:46:19):
just gonna tell you everything.
Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
Ok.
Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
And then this other guy might have been in a
similar situation, and he was telling all these stories about
uh huh yeah, even some really bad stuff that he
did to make people shut up, and then he felt
bad about it, so he was trying to clear his
conscience the best he could, very convincing stories. Yeah, it
(01:46:43):
was a guy too who was a contractor. Wish I
knew his name offhand, but you could find him. He
was a Department of Defense contractor built underground facilities, and
during one of their their project, they encountered a hollow
space deep under the ground and I said, oh, okay,
(01:47:05):
we found a we found a what do you call it,
an infestation of these these beings. And they brought seal
team in there to deal with it. And he went
down with them in the punnel, and then before he
even got all the way to the bottom, there was
all this shooting in a firefight down there. Not all
of them got out alive, and something was shooting. He
(01:47:28):
said it was didn't think it was a laser, but
it was similar. It was like this pulse or something,
and came up and hit his hand. And he was
given this presentation the whole time, and he said, yeah,
and it shot my hand and he lifts his hand
and in his hand, like three of his fingers are gone,
and his hand looked weird, like part of it's melted off.
Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
And he said, yeah, did they ever I mean when
they say what was in there?
Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Yeah, that there were these beings, that they were really tall,
like seven foot tall or something like gray type aliens,
but all and very violent, very violent, very evil, and
that they are here in the United States under the ground, underground,
and that they they have facilities all over the place,
(01:48:24):
and when we find them, we go to war with them.
And we've been fighting them for a while. And he
said that his days were numbered and that if he's
ever found, if his body is ever found and they
say that he committed suicide, that it's a lie, right,
(01:48:45):
and just believe that what he's telling, what he's saying
is the truth and that he is not going to
commit suicide in it. And eventually he will end up
most likely leaving evidence behind in the form of predicting
his so called suicide. And he was dead about maybe
(01:49:06):
two weeks later after giving that presentation to those people.
So wow, pretty sad.
Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
And again, you know, you hear about all these dead
men triggers, you know, like, but it's like, who wants
to be the one that the recipient of that? It's like,
I wouldn't want to be that because the next thing,
you know, you're like, you're on the hit list and
maybe nobody understands why is that you were the one
that was going to get the recipient?
Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
Yeah, and then you know things are shaken up though,
I mean with with the Navy coming clean with what
happened with the USS knimics back in twenty fifteen, with
this UAPs and stuff, and then Congressional you know.
Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
I heard once I was reading that even as early
as two thousand. Was it the Limits, I can't remember. No,
I think it was a Ronald Reagan. They had just
been I'd just been built, and they had like an
orb fall get around for two or three days, big
golden orb.
Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Yeah, I believe it. Well, even Christopher Columbus saw Saint
almost fire right. It's a big, bright, glowing ball of
light in the sky and they've been around for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
But you know, the interesting thing to me is that
the d O D had been saying nothing to see
here all these years, and then suddenly, you know, during.
Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
It's like now now you're coming what you know, like
unfortunately now yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
During the pandemic you have this, you know, okay, there's
looting at Walmart and oh, by the way, the Navy
just released this video.
Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
They say they don't know what exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Anybody even notice that this is the Navy that released it.
That's the best evidence you can get. They had people
that's visually seen it from the deck of the ships
giving their eyewitness to testimony mass sighting eyewitnessed, so it
was physically there in the sky. They got it on radar.
(01:51:06):
They got it on sonar, and they had pilots up
in the sky that were getting buzzed and scared out
of their mind because it was a safety violation. And
that's what brought this all out, this guy said. And
now they say that some pilots did actually get killed,
and they're brushing it under the rug. Right. This dude's like,
you can't keep doing this, and so he put his
(01:51:27):
life on the line coming forward. And then they came
out with the Whistleblower Act, so now more guys are
coming forward. But then they're doing what the intel community does, right,
the intel community, when they can't suppress something, then they
dilute it, like exactly right, Wiki League full of all
kinds of fake garbage. Right, So when they do the data,
(01:51:50):
dom oh, Hillary's email servers, you know, all the stuff's
out here, blah blah blah, and then they're like, oh, okay,
well let's let's dilute it with a bunch of other
stuff that's wrong. So they don't know what's.
Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
Really You don't know really what's the truth. And where
everybody's at where it's like, people are very people. I
think overall, so many people I've been black people have
become cynical, Like I don't know whether believe that or not.
Maybe it's the truth, but maybe not.
Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
And now with AI and DE fake videos and stuff,
people could become up another thing. Aliens can come down
and like like land in front of your house and
come out and you know, give you a cake and yeah,
and then go and leave. You get it all on
tape and everything. Everybody be laughing, see you know that
c g I. And it's like, man, the aliens really
(01:52:34):
came and they do have these videos. Now there's just
more and more and it's like, okay, well now that's something.
Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
As a matter of fact, I was reading this was
a couple of this was already a few years ago
that they were saying, uh, you know, usually when you
find DNA, let's say, at a crime scene, that's like
that that that's that seals the doom of the person
being accused. You know what I'm saying, DNA evidence is
like that's it your toast. But they were saying, you know,
if at some point we can reproduce DNA, in other words,
(01:53:03):
that the defense team can say this DNA was found there,
but it could have been planted there. He says that
will be the end of the DNA, no questions, ask
your guilty thing.
Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
It's not your iron clad evidence anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
Na.
Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Eventually it'll be like if you know, because remember, at
the end of the days, you have to have if
there's doubt that a person is guilty, you supposedly you're
not going to convict this person, so you have to
just plant that seed of doubt.
Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
So we got to see TV. Yeah, sure you do.
You know that's that's a deep fake video. You know,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
And I think that that that goes along with even
these things you know that could reproduce your voice.
Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think that. Now now they say if
families should have a code, so when somebody calls and
asks for an ID or a password or a credit
card something, Okay, what's the secret password?
Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
Glup? Glup? Oh okay, you're in you know.
Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
And from what I understand that all they have to
do is hear like a like less than five seconds
of your voys not much, yeah, right, in order to
be able to reproduce it.
Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
I mean another sign too, AI is another sign that
I point out. Revelation Chapter thirteen talks about the image
of the beast, the image of the Beast and revelation
is a man made entity that can talk and speak
and regulate the global economy. Wow, that is that not AI?
Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
How is that not AI? So you know, and that's
kind of where it's going everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Oh, it's going all right in that direction, and whether
we want to or not, but yeah, it's across.
Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Yeah, and all this et phenomenon and stuff. Yeah, the
fake stuff is out there and it's becoming more prominent.
But I do believe we will eventually get disclosure because
Jesus said, as it was in the days of Noah,
so shall it be in the days of the coming
of the Sun of Man and the days of Noah.
We're crazy otherworldly beings coming here in open contact and
(01:55:07):
with our technology, I mean, we're going to other planets,
and eventually we'll go there. I think we AI will
probably develop propulsion that can do what we wanted to
do to be able to travel other worlds and find
life out there, you know. So if it doesn't come here,
we'll go there one way or another, and we'll prove
(01:55:31):
you know, okay, it's here, you know, and h our reality,
our sense of reality will begin to unfold in a
way that a lot of people are going to have
a hard time struggling with. Which why you know, I
wrote the Christian you athologies just so people have a
lens in order which to understand it. Just because ets
are real doesn't mean the Bible is not right. In fact,
(01:55:53):
the Bible predicts it. So, and I made all these predictions.
I do believe that we will find archaeological evidence of
an advanced civilization buried in the earth. We probably already
found it in Antarctica. I heard, yes, my military contacts.
I heard news of that.
Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
So there's something they keep it awfully guarded for nothing
being there supposedly.
Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Yeah, and there is a military presence there, So okay,
why is our military in Antarctica of all places? That's weird.
Not like it's a hotly contested area to go and
want to live there. It's pretty dang inhospitable. Yes, you
need a lot of support just to exist there. Yes,
So why are we there?
Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
Exactly? Why would somebody or not well, not somebody, but
a nation or anybody or any entity go through all
that trouble to be somewhere where Supposedly though, it's all
as ice and wind and snow.
Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Yeah, that's it. See all these things, It's like all
these trains on a bunch of different tracks, all converging
at the same point, all at the same time. AI
global currencies, the pandemic stuff going on, all these wars,
tinkering with genetics, tinkering with dimensional portals, and cern and
(01:57:18):
tribal and then prophecies coming true, the Euphrates river drying up.
You know, the Army of the East being two hundred million,
it's actually the numbers given in the Bible. And China's
army is that big now? Uh. And it's really interesting
to be born in this age and this time to
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see all these things coming to pass. And I'm just
wondering if we'll be the generation to see the big stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
The right we're going at the speed where things are developing,
I think.
Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
So, yeah, I think so. You know, some people are
scared of it, you know that the Antichrist and the
strong delusion and all of that side to that too.
You know, there's there's apparently, like Jesus said, greater works
what we do than He done, And so we're all
been looking for these greater works all this time. How
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does anybody walk on water unless it's some of a
magician or something, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
I think that a lot of people, I think humans
beings by their nature are right kind of resistant to change,
and they everybody knows that what's coming is like it's
not incremental, you know how that's that's like basically we're
like heading down, like you know on the roller coaster, right,
you know, when you're down going down that way, the
change is like it doesn't want it or not. Yeah,
(01:58:39):
it's like it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
It's got a sharp curve and it's heading toward the
end really quick, and you got to know whose side
you're going to be on. Uh. As things really start
to take shape and and reveal, you know, things that
are coming up.
Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
I think a lot of things that people once upon
a time, whether you want to call them science fiction
or conspiracy or distill, you know, like, oh that that's
a great movie script. All of a sudden you're realizing
that wasn't you know, that's not make believe, that's possibly
real what so.
Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well there's people literally talking about you know,
Terminator and stuff, and they're like oh yeah, yeah. Elon
Musk talking about transhumanism and stuff. And yes, I actually
wrote about it twenty years ago that artificial intelligence is
going to drive us toward transhumanism because it'll the people
(01:59:34):
who do augment themselves with computers were going to be
leaps and bounds ahead of people who don't. Right, well, well,
there's way to function in society is to be augmented
with computers.
Speaker 2 (01:59:45):
Well, this is what he's saying. You know, as a
matter of fact, he recently made a comment along those lines.
As far as you know the fear of AI that
basically the way to get around that is to do
exactly what you just describe, which is to integrate or
enhance yourself with some type of robotics. All right, in
other words, the board.
Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
I'm only kidding for that, but you know, I mean
your brain can integrate with the internet.
Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Right then, And you know what I tell everybody, These
things always start out, Oh, we're doing this to help
you know, like in this case, you know, like NEU
a link, like a person that's disabled or has some
type of brain damage, We're going to help them.
Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
Who doesn't want to see a paralyzed person walk again? Right?
Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
So everybody's like, of course, and then the next thing,
you know, it's like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:00:32):
Well where's the line. Let's let's just keep moving it
a little further, a little further, a little and then
that person here, and and then eventually, well that same
technology is already there. You just flip a switch and
now suddenly you can access the Internet with your brain
just by thinking, Yes, how intelligent would you be?
Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
You know, right exactly? You know, like that in other words,
a modern day version of the six million Dollar Man.
You know, for people that show, that was basically a
very early prototype of what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:01:08):
Yeah, which is that that's the physical abilities, but the
cognitive ability oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah with dwarf
all of that, and and in terms of the danger
it poses, it makes nuclear power look relatively tame because
what you can create if you have unlimited intelligence could probably.
Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
Have you ever seen that movie John and youmonic? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're basically he's like a big memory stick for lack
of a oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
And they got multiple versions of that, now, yeah, they
what Johnny Depp was in one another one that was
similar to that, and then the lawnmower Man was the
older one with the Stephen King win all of that
where we integrate our consciousness with computers, and and that's
where it's going.
Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
I mean, what was it the don you remember that
in Johnny Humonic he had like x amount of space
it is capacity of his brain. You know, I basically
had a chip I do, I don't know what in there,
and that basically he got slammed with all this information.
That's why they were trying looking for him to behead him. Yeah,
(02:02:20):
but he was basically back. In other words, it's it's
a dystopian where people are are couriers. Yeah, okay, as
long as you're not downloaded with the wrong well not
the wrong information, but dangerous information kind of deal. But yeah,
what's what we're looking at, you know, like you said,
you know, we're gonna put this in your brain and
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that way, guess what we can download information into you.
Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
Yeah, and I've said it, I said it in the
past that I think the mark of the Beast will
be something like that, something related to transhumanism. It'll be
pitched as a way that like, how can you say
no to this?
Speaker 1 (02:02:58):
M h.
Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
It'll have so many benefits. We're already moving in the
direction of having an AI assistant within the next year
or so. Everybody like have an AI assystant like you've
seen cell phones right this this nsa surveillance device that
we have now that's listening to us all the cataloging
us and profiling us and learning everything there is to
(02:03:22):
know to be able to manipulate us seven ways from
Sunday and now it's being augmented with artificial intelligence built
into the operating system. And then the next step is
to turn this into a chip. And there were a
lot of people pushing for that, Bill Gates. One of
the big reasons was, you know, the the digital passport
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h and also it could be included with that would
be a vaccine passport.
Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
Sure, it'll be like all all all under the same
umbrella currency.
Speaker 3 (02:03:59):
You know, you're money, which the Bible literally says, you
know the mark of the beast, which will be part
of the BET system, and that image of the beast
will be about controlling people and it will use buying
and selling to do it.
Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
Any day it'll be two. As a matter of fact,
today they were talking about I don't know if you've
heard recently that that it's like a gaming system platform
called roadblocks. Okay, and they're in hot water because apparently
a lot of kids or young people use it for gaming,
(02:04:34):
and that a lot of groomers basically had you know,
pretending to be their age. And apparently it's been going
on for a long time by the way, basically room
or develop relationship with kids or you know, teenagers or whatever. Right,
So in Louisiana they're introduced a bill, whether it was
(02:04:55):
yesterday or today that to go on any of these
platforms you have to id yourself. Oh, but the problem
is that the the reasoning behind is, oh, we want
to protect children. But basically you have to idea yourself.
This has nothing to whoever you are to be on
this on this gaming thing.
Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
Right, all right, we can monitor control it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
Thank you, or saying like for everything else, you know,
you want to bank, we need to id you. You
want to do this, We need to id you. You
want to go on this, but of course you have
to protect the children. And it's like, okay, you know
there's other ways to monitor or verify that if it's
let's say, an underage person versus iding everybody that goes
(02:05:41):
on there. Yeah, and they were saying, how this thing
of this the system has already been around for like
twenty years, give or take a little bit. And apparently
these rumors are suspicions that all this grooming and all
this stuff's going on has been going on for years.
In other words, that if they they wanted to do
something about it, they could have done it years ago
(02:06:02):
as far as hey, yeah, we need to crack down
and find out who's on there that's you know, like
an adult or somebody that's inappropriate or something whatever. But
the timing on it is suspicious that now of a sudden,
all right, they want to ida now everybody that goes,
and you know, if they do it for that system,
they're going to do it for everything else.
Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Yeah. And security, I mean, the doyn't have solid reasons.
Oh yeah already safety. You know, hey, you know, we
don't want to be in the wild West over here.
We're civilized, you know, country, and you got all this
nefarious stuff going on. You have to travel.
Speaker 2 (02:06:39):
You all you need to do is say that by
the way, the children, everybody's like, of course.
Speaker 3 (02:06:44):
That's like yeah, yeah, even though most of those people
will probably be all in favor of abortion.
Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
Really well exactly and this is no no, no, believe
it or not.
Speaker 3 (02:06:54):
It's like, yeah, they they.
Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
I'm not at house this you can I unders stand
where which, by the way, parents do have a responsibility
in this.
Speaker 3 (02:07:03):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
You know, as far as protecting kids, absolutely, I'm one
hundred percent in favor of that. But at the same time,
it's kind of like, I think you're using that to
make everybody so you can just track everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
Oh yeah, before you know it. Well, this pandemic is
probably the biggest case in point that. Let you know,
for I never ever would have believed in twenty twenty
or twenty nineteen that the government would actually be behind
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something that would want to instill fear in people intentionally
and cause mass public Like, No, the government doesn't want
to cause mass public. That would be chaos in it, right, No,
they actually want they want chaos what we said, I mean,
they were burning down police stations right now.
Speaker 2 (02:07:55):
Some of this I remember, and the reason why I
remember it is because my mom asked the way in
December of twenty nineteen. You know how sometimes certain events
in your life you remember specifically what was going on.
That's why I remember very much. Sometimes you get caught
up and living in everything becomes a blur. That's why
I remember specifically what I was doing right going into
(02:08:17):
twenty twenty, and it was like that to me is
the cut off point where I you know, before that,
if somebody would told me, Hey, this is what's gonna
happen the next five years, I would said, no, way,
that's a great story.
Speaker 3 (02:08:32):
Sure right there one of the four. Yeah, And that
was another one. So I saw so much stuff. At first,
my like, my pastors like, what do you think of
all of this? I'm like, all, it'll blow over in
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
Right right, That's what everybody's the beginning.
Speaker 3 (02:08:50):
Boy did I miss that one? And then when I
saw the stuff and then the people wearing the mask,
I'm like, I have biology, A mask ain't doing anything,
and that that mask is the equivalent of putting a
chain link fence around your house and thinking you're going
to keep the mosquitoes out. A virus is so small
it just goes right through it.
Speaker 2 (02:09:12):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
My biology teacher used to laugh and to talk about condoms,
You're like the latex condom. Really, you've seen the latex
condom through through Uh, it's not keeping a disease out.
It's designed to keep the woman from getting pregnant. It's
not designed to keep the woman from getting AIDS will
not work for that period, and you know, and just
(02:09:36):
knowing those things, and I was like, Okay, the mask
is bunk, but don't say anything about it. Like good grief,
you say something about it.
Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
People freak out today of all things, today, was it
today or yesterday? I'm right now the street and I'm
telling you out here, it's in the nineties. It's hot, humid,
and I see this lady walking down the street. I
guess she was walking to one. She has a mask on,
and I was looking at her and I was like,
(02:10:06):
what's wrong with this lady? Imagine you might be passing
out any minute. There's nobody around her, she's outside, She's
not like. It's like, lady, what are you doing? I'm hot,
I'm hot looking at you. I'm sweating just looking at
you with this mask on your face.
Speaker 3 (02:10:22):
We want to think, we want to believe that she
has a pallen analergy or something. But yeah, I've seen
people driving in their car alone with the windows it
was like a mask on. And I.
Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
Want to say John that I think that in the
last five years a lot of people that said people
won't fall for that. You found out that a lot
of people do fall for that, you know, like people
have said, oh man, and then all of a sudden,
you see O these people like.
Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
Yeah, and the same people even insinuating that you're stupid
for not believing it.
Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
I did get out of the military sooner than than
later because of that a good reason. And well, there
were several things that converged. You know, they were going
to force me to retire even though there was nobody
groom to take my place. And so I'm like, well,
that doesn't make sense. You know, you work really hard
(02:11:17):
to make it up to chaf and then force me
out because you want the slot to keep revolving. You
don't want a person at the top hole. I get that,
But if there's nobody there, you're gonna pull kick me
out just to pull some outsider from off the street
to take that position. I'm not holding anybody back, right.
(02:11:38):
So that was that, and but but the whole atmosphere
of the base, I mean, I've been there for twenty
five years, and yet people were treating me like I
was a weirdo because I didn't want to get the shot.
And I'm like, well, no, I did some research, and
this was never fully tested. It's experimental and it's only
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being released on an emergency authorization. But if I mentioned
to say any of that on LinkedIn, my accounts deleted.
And that happened to me. My account got deleted because
I was posting something from doctor Malone, one of the
inventors of mRNA. He posts like, I don't recommend this
widely used all over the place and especially on kids,
(02:12:21):
and boom he was, you know, had tons of doctors
jumping up trying to destroy his credibility, you know, And
I'm like, wait a second, and I mentioned him, and
my account's nuked, right, And I had to go and
rebuild my account and all this stuff and and be
careful about what I said. But had they not done
so much censoring, I probably would have got shot. Because
(02:12:44):
I was in the military. I've been getting shot everything
you shoot me up. I've been taking anthrax and stuff, right,
But this was this was mRNA. It was gene therapy,
completely radically different technologies. So that's why I read into it.
And yet I was the only chief at my base
who didn't get the shot, and they were hazing me. Right,
(02:13:07):
I would show up at the meeting, and they had
these hazing policies. If one person shows up that hasn't
had the shot, then everybody has to mask up. But
if everybody in the room has the shot, they don't
have to wear that stupid mask.
Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
And so you.
Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
And I'm like, well, wait, what about hippa. So if
I'm walking around with a mask, I'm basically announcing to
everybody I haven't had the shot. I have no privacy.
So that's a hip of violation right away. Now I'm
just getting pissed off, right, And I show up to
a meeting and one of the chiefs like, oh, Miler's here,
mask up And I was like, okay, that's the last
(02:13:45):
meeting I'm coming to, right, And then after that, I
was like just kind of hold up in my office
most of the time, and I'm like, well, let me
start doing a job hunt. You know, see what's out there.
Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
What most places, the last thing they want is they
want to see their brain power walk out the door.
You know, years of experience and everything they want to lose.
That they do not want to lose it.
Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
You would think, yes, you would think, but they were
pressuring me to get out. And they did have the
religious exemption, and I'm like, well, what if it's not
a religious exemption? What if it's a scientistic what if
it's Yeah, what if it's I did my research and
I think there's so many red flags here that I
(02:14:29):
don't want to do this. And it doesn't even have
anything to do with being a Christian, yeah, you know.
But the only thing that they had available was you
have to sign this religious exemption. I'm like, all right,
I believe this is BS. How about that. That's part
of my religion, right, it's my belief set. So I
(02:14:50):
could have stayed in.
Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
But no, you know what, And I think a lot
well it turned out, but I think a lot of
the beginning, a lot of people they were not They
were not they were like, hey, they were just like,
I want to find out more about this. I'm not sure,
and they were like.
Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
That's how I started. That's how I started, you know,
and I.
Speaker 2 (02:15:08):
Think it's snowballed out of control, and they were like,
wait a minute, what is this? What just because I'm
like saying, hold on, you know, yeah, And I think
that's what a lot of people in black pilled them
about what's going on here, because they didn't feel like
this should not be such a big deal, in other words,
and it turned into a huge deal.
Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
And then you know, trying to ground people at home.
No you're not allowed to travel. No, you're not allowed
to go to church anymore. Oh, well you can go
to the bar.
Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
You know. Oh yeah, the liquor stores are open, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
You can go, you know, and at first you can
go to some restaurants, you know, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
What, yeah, exactly, because yeah, the germs, the germs don't
work that way.
Speaker 3 (02:15:49):
All the stuff that I saw. The one guy he
had this mask on his face and then he cut
this kind of line in the mask so he could
eat with a mask on. And this whole mask is opening.
Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
Oh that's great, that's a great.
Speaker 3 (02:16:03):
Funny.
Speaker 2 (02:16:04):
Like okay, you know, it's like, all right, your common senses,
you know, your buddies, you get the common sense of
a turn up.
Speaker 3 (02:16:09):
It's like, okay, yeah, a lot of it was funny.
Speaker 2 (02:16:15):
It really was, I know, but you know what, how's
this when you look at it? Sometimes of retrospect, but
sometimes it was like I think a lot of people
got disillusioned with others around them, Like, man, I didn't
know you were that stupid. Like, don't you like you
know that that does it follow everybody else off over
the side of the cliff kind of deal you found?
Oh yeah, But anyway, John, thank you so much. You
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have been absolutely wonderful to talk to. Are you working
right now in any books or in any other project.
Speaker 3 (02:16:45):
I'm actually trying to get published, okay, working with a
guy who's trying to get an editor, and that's where
my focus is right now. I just finished two books
last year. I mean, wow, these two that I pointed out, Okay,
they're part of a series that you know, continuation of
the Jimmy Prophit Library and get into all kinds of
(02:17:07):
paranormal stuff through this fiction, okay, and then the other
stuff I go on podcasts and stuff. I actually went
to this conference, was invited to a UFO conference here
near San Francisco, and I got to speak at that,
so that was cool, okay. And I trying to do
(02:17:30):
what I can without spending myself into oblivion because this
is an author I've lost a lot of money over
the years, nowhere near the profit margin. I'm at very
much a negative losses. But part of it's because I'll
give my books away to anybody who emails me and
(02:17:50):
asks I do ask for a review on Amazon if
you can. But if anybody is interested in any of
my books on my website, my e mail address is
j Miler at yahoo dot com. Uh, first initial, last name, and.
Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
Your website, what's your website address.
Speaker 3 (02:18:08):
Www dot John Myler dot com. But I also have
several other websites the names of my books, and they're
easier to remember. Christianeathology dot net mm hmm, the Strong
Delusion dot net, Aliens Inthebible dot com, and Aliens and
the Antichrist dot com. All of those go to my
(02:18:32):
website my author Okay, yeah, but if you type Christianeuafology
you'll find Yeah, And my website is where I got
all my books at and my email address is on
there also, so you know, I I just don't want
money to get in the way. And if you know
(02:18:54):
people are interested at any of my things that I'm saying,
or my research and you're having a hard time finding
a few bucks to pay for a Kendle or whatever,
I'll email you free pdff of any book, of any book. Yeah,
and no reservation excellent, So there's that. Yeah, I still
(02:19:20):
would like to try to get some of my money
back that I spent on marketing over the years. But
it's okay, you know, I've learned to live with it.
Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Me.
Speaker 3 (02:19:31):
You know, maybe someday I'll get my breakthrough because two
of my books are screenplays.
Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
Too, And okay, all right, that's something.
Speaker 3 (02:19:39):
I got a master degree in screenwriting, you know, just
to be able to learn how to do that. But
being a screenwriter that's actually auctioned a screenplay is probably
even harder than being a traditionally published author.
Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
You know what I'm gonna I'm wanna say this real quick. Also,
the entertainment industry I think is under a big giant
shift right now. Mm hmmm, whether it's Hollywood or other
types of entertainment, I think that right now it's like,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:20:08):
Throw it into a blender for all we know. I mean,
it's okay, so sophisticated, you might be able to just
describe a movie and have it created.
Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Right and forget you know, the hiring. You know, you
have these actors, it's like, forget it, we don't need
you anymore. We'll get we'll invent somebody like you.
Speaker 3 (02:20:25):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's down.
Speaker 2 (02:20:27):
That's that's that's right there. As a matter of.
Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
Fact, I heard James Earl Jones sold his voice.
Speaker 2 (02:20:31):
You know, so we'll see that I can understand your voice.
Speaker 3 (02:20:34):
Now you could sell your voice and stuff. But then
they'll take your likeness too. You know. The worst was
finished Princess Leiah died and they still finished it with
her and uh Ai.
Speaker 2 (02:20:47):
You know, but I think that they'll even like they'll
put like a compositive what are the Let's take these
three main actors that were favorites, and they'll just tell I,
we want you to generate compositive of these three.
Speaker 3 (02:21:01):
Yeah, create a non existent human being exactly, and that's
our new actor, and it AI cast.
Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
Right, and that's it. And we don't have to give
him any type of salary.
Speaker 3 (02:21:16):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
It's our property. And if he's really big, we'll happen
to make another movie because then we'll just develop make
him a character.
Speaker 3 (02:21:22):
Yeah, so yeah, that's that's Ai.
Speaker 2 (02:21:26):
Though.
Speaker 3 (02:21:26):
The only thing that AI has a hard time with
is original content. Oh course, you throw like five books
at it and say make a book using these characters
and this story, and it'll go a little ways and
it'll ask you for more information. What do you want now?
What do you want to do? You know, it can't
create something.
Speaker 2 (02:21:47):
I know, only as good as the information that it's given.
But I don't think it's as good as extrapolating stuff
as people think.
Speaker 3 (02:21:53):
I think. But it's going to get better. It's going
to get a lot better. Uh, and it could certainly
help you well better, yeah, better and worse.
Speaker 2 (02:22:04):
I think that's that. The crux of the matter is like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:22:09):
And unfortunate jobs are going to go out the window.
Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
Oh my god. Yeah, you know, we get and we
get suckered into it because it's gonna help you. You know,
you don't remember that I Robot movie, the last one
that came out, like they give everybody their own personal robot.
But basically it turns into your spy inside your house
at the end of the movie, doesn't let you out
the front door. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (02:22:28):
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
Well, but see it doesn't stand in the in the movie,
and I was looking at that because of course it's
using you know Asimov, you know story where at the end,
because of the download and the evil whatever, when you're
ready to leave, it stands in front of the door
and says you're not allowed to leave.
Speaker 3 (02:22:47):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's probably one of the only things.
It's gonna slow it down a little bit, but then you.
Speaker 2 (02:22:56):
Know, otherwise it'll make dinner for you and do all
drudge work. But that's I think people are going to
get suckered into it.
Speaker 3 (02:23:03):
Yeah, I tell you, I'll prophesy it now. AI assistants
are going to be a thing probably within three or
four years. Everybody's going to have an AI assistant, just
like they all have an AI phone.
Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
Ye ye ye yeah. And if you're not, you'll be
like the dummy.
Speaker 3 (02:23:20):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, it will be the dinosaur yeah of
it because you don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
It's like no, exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:23:28):
And I'm apprehensive enough about my phone now from what
I know in the military and with the NSA does
so they could turn on any phone. Now there's a
reason you can't pull batteries out anymore. They can remotely
turn them on. I had record your conversations, take pictures,
extract your data. All of your pictures have GEO data location,
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so they know where the picture was taken. They know
what you buy, they know what you you're interested in,
they know your likes, your dislikes, every text you've ever said,
every phone conversation you've ever had, they know everything about you.
Speaker 2 (02:24:04):
Yes, because that's why they scrape information. But I remember
because for people that have been around long enough, once
upon a time all phones had removable batteries that you
can replace the batteries on them.
Speaker 3 (02:24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
For example, my iPhone, I had to take it because
it was it gave me the sign where the battery
was only charging up to eighty five percent. But I
had to take it to not even in an iPhone store,
but I had to take it to a tech place
that did iPhones in order to replace the battery. All right,
so it would be fully charged, but none of that.
Speaker 3 (02:24:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Before you know, you could pop out the battery and
just pop in a new one.
Speaker 3 (02:24:38):
Not no more like anymore. And there's a reason. Sorry,
I keep pulling you back into a car.
Speaker 2 (02:24:44):
Now, don't worry about it. I will be contacting you soon, John, Okay, alright,
take care.
Speaker 3 (02:24:49):
Sounds good you too, by bye bye bye.
Speaker 2 (02:24:58):
Okay. So what do you think? Neat?
Speaker 3 (02:25:01):
Huh? You know what?
Speaker 4 (02:25:04):
Hold on, let me put myself back in here somewhere. Wait,
I'm going to mornen. Here we go, Here we go, No,
here we go wow, Okay, well here all right.
Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
Anyway, what he talks about is that what's going on,
what's coming down the pipe for us, like at one
hundred miles an hour, because that's at least that's how
I feel sometimes. Is it part of biblical prophecy or not?
Speaker 4 (02:25:35):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:25:38):
And I think, and I'm not saying one way or
the other, but I think a lot of people want
to put that into the equation because it'll justify what's happening, Like, okay,
this is these things that are happening are very disquieting,
they're alarming, they're like wow, and it's like, okay, well,
(02:25:58):
if if it's coming as part of biblical prophecy, then
I may not be happy with it, but at least
I understand why it's happening, all right. And what if
it's not. What if it's us getting ourselves all into
trouble by ourselves, in other words, not fulfilling a prophecy,
(02:26:21):
you know, just because whether you want to call it
hubris or just stupidity, you know, even very intelligent people.
And this I want to say, like when I say,
whether it's you know, organizations run by people that are
supposedly experts and scientists, they can still be stupid, or
(02:26:45):
they overlook the obvious consequences down the road for humanity.
They don't care that too, or something's like a you know,
there's things that you shouldn't do, even if let's say
we could do it, whether it's technology or science, but
(02:27:05):
there's always a couple in the group that will say, well,
let's do it anyway. In other words, just because you
can doesn't mean you should. There's always some in the
group that'll say, well, let's see how far we can
take this, even if the outcome might be unknown, or
whether it's positive or negative, or chances are that's very negative,
or how's this if we're talking here, experimentation of theories,
(02:27:28):
whatever it might be, whether it's even like you say,
the certain collider, physics, robotics, AI fill in the blind
that up to a certain point, they could say, you
know what, this is a roll of the dice. Let's
say we're experiment because that's usually how science get goes forward.
(02:27:50):
What are the possible outcomes or variables in this? And
sometimes they could say, well, we might have this type
of outcome, as in an negative and we could prepare
that if that happens we'll do this to shut it downstopic,
counter act it, pull back whatever. But sometimes I think
(02:28:13):
that in some of these areas or they're going into
things that you don't really know what you're doing to
begin with, and you really have you might guess a
certain outcome or that you would like that certain outcome
based on a theory, but you really have no fallback plan,
(02:28:36):
either for a possible negative outcome, or it could just
be something that you have no idea that that would
come about out of what you were doing that kind
of deal. And I think that's that's the worrisome part,
because I'm all for progress, But what are the stakes?
What is that risk? Okay? And I think sometimes if
(02:29:01):
you have a certain goal, and you can say, well,
sometimes certain goals, of the risk is to how you
put that on the shelf and say, you know what,
this would be great to learn how to do this
or acquire this technology. That's great and we could do
that and whatever, but sometimes the way to get it
at that point in time would be very risky. And
(02:29:23):
again when I'm saying risky for humanity, for whatever whoever's
involved in this, right, and sometimes you have to put
stuff on the back burner and wait, you know what,
that would be great, But let's wait because maybe down
the road in the future will have a method of
being able to experiment or work on that that will
(02:29:43):
have learned certain ways to minimize the risk. Yeah, maybe
not now now right now.
Speaker 3 (02:29:49):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (02:29:51):
The concern here is that there's people there that the
either the thirst for knowledge and or money or power,
you know, in other words, a knowledge. It's not so
much the knowledge. The knowledge is the stepping stone to
acquire power and money, all right, the knowledge just for
(02:30:15):
the sake of the knowledge, eh, doesn't really matter. It's
just what can I do if I harness that knowledge?
Either I own it, I have it, then I can
have these other two things that that doesn't stop somebody
from saying or when I say somebody, I want to
say a group of people or a company or whoever
(02:30:36):
I'm saying. You know what, that would be great if
we could get that outcome whatever it is the experiment
is or theory or model or whatever. But there's just
too many unknowns in it. There's too many weird outcomes
that maybe we wouldn't know how to handle. Let's let's
put that on the on the shelf for now until
(02:30:57):
maybe later on down the road we have maybe developed
some type of technology or something, or we just we
learned maybe how certain things work. That then then it
won't be as risky. And that's that's what worries me
that there's I want to call them what I think
they are psychopaths that you know that run a lot
(02:31:20):
of powerful companies, agencies, whatever, that they don't care. You
know what if this, if this turns out bad. You know,
so there's a few people, million people, thousands of people
(02:31:41):
dead or maimed or whatever impaired. Well, you know, you
know what's as saying is, you know, a few broken eggs.
I think there was a line Joker had in h
I think in the First Batman gott to break a
few eggs. You know that they it's just like, oh, well,
it comes with that comes with of achieving whatever it
(02:32:01):
is that I want to achieve. And I think there's
a lot of people because let's face it, if you
are a person that thinks like that, but you have
no power or authority or position to do it, it's like, okay, well,
you know, maybe the worst that can happen is you
if you have a family you'll, oh, they wish they
weren't your family. But when you have a person that has,
(02:32:23):
one way or another achieved a position that can do
these things, it's a that's that's what I'm saying. It's not,
let's say, for example, this thing with the AI, it's
not a in and of itself. It's who's manipulating or
using or the AI. That's where the problem comes in.
(02:32:48):
That it's like, how's this if I'm going to use
Hollywood because I think Hollywood's it gives everybody a good
point of reference. Like the Alien movies, the one with
the protagonist was Ellen Ripley. From the very beginning the
first movie that they're miners. You know this ship is
(02:33:13):
there there a mining ship and they're owned by a
company or the company, and then they realize, of course
that they're expendable because they they've discovered a life form
that apparently besides mining, there's there was always a secondary
purpose that that's why they even had a science officer.
I'm talking about the first one that was a robot
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that if they ever discovered a life form like this, everybody,
in other words, humans were expendable. They had to bring
it back. Even though let's say it was it was
something they could barely control. Whoever's followed the alien movies
where it was number two, but especially number three, even
number three, which I know a lot of people don't
(02:33:55):
think it was a good movie. I thought it was
pretty decent. Where supposedly, you know, the the guy that
owns a company or runs the company, he comes out
there is he's wanting to get this life form even
though it's basically it's invasive. You know, it takes over
plus it kills you, I mean, any life form, and
(02:34:16):
they don't care just because they want it, they want
to have it, they got to study it, whatever. And
sometimes I think we have the versions of that possibly
like behind now the advances and AI and robotics, and
we're the the expendable part of it or the collateral damage.
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And I don't know, maybe I'm being pessimistic, even though
I'm not a pessimistic person, but sometimes that's I think
that's what scares me moves. It's not the AI or
the robotics, it's who's running the who's running the show.
What do you guys think? Anyway, Guys, I hope you
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