Strange Stories from the 70s | Volume 2 | Podcast - Stories of the Supernatural

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, this is Marlene with Miami Ghost Chronicles and I
want to welcome you to another episode of Stories of
the Supernatural. Wherever you find us, whether it's a video
or podcast on your favorite platform, please like and subscribe
to us that you can get notification of when a
new show is released. You can also find us some
major social media platforms. If you go to Miamighostchronicles dot com,

(00:20):
you can find links to the videos or MP three
files which you can download and enjoy without commercial interruptions.
If you're into classic horror, ghost and adventure stories, I
narrate night Shade Diary and you can find links at
Nightshapediary dot com. If scary stories are your bag, and
listening to encounters with cryptids, ghost dog Man and other

(00:41):
weird creatures sends us shure up your spine, then go
to Supernaturalstorytime dot com for links to our weekly podcasts.
Noteworthy news about the paranormal world, true crime, conspiracy stories,
and anything that is just plain weird can be found
at Eerie dot news or visit angel then Fiction Stories

(01:01):
tab at Miami ghost Chronicles dot com. Please subscribe to
my newsletter on substack just go to Mppelliser dot Com
for a link. I want to thank you for being
part of my audience and I think you are all wonderful.
Hi everybody, this is Marlene with Stories of the Supernatural
and this week our episode, we're gonna go back to

(01:22):
the serie Strange Stories from the seventies. This is going
to be volume two and we're gonna throw a mix
of everything in there. It was happened in the seventies.
God knows, there was a lot of weird and unusual
things happening in the seventies. Some that we knew were
weird back in the seventies, and some that's only when
you're fifty years in the future. You look back and

(01:43):
you go, that's weird. You don't see that every day.
But anyway, I've tried to what you think. Back in
the seventies they were having things like sea serpents sightings
and not just bluckness. This is a story out of
gems seg Queens County, and in January nineteen seventy there's

(02:03):
a report of a sea serpent at Grand Lake, Canada.
It was described as having a head as big as
a water pail and great, big green eyes. Now, apparently
this siting went back years, but always in the same
stretch of water. Many had seen it through the years,
and some had taken the secret to the grave, but
still there were the others who would tell about what

(02:24):
they had seen. So in other words, it was like
this little secret now so secret among the people that
lived there. Apparently this was not really a very well
populated area, and everybody at some point at a greed
which is not going to talk about this to anybody else,
like as an outsider. But then somebody went out there
and decided to do a historian. They actually got people

(02:44):
who knew or had actually seen it. One of these
was a young man named Arnie Young, and this is
what he said. Years ago, or they were building their
first cabins at Robinson Point Beach, they heard an awful
splash in the water. They couldn't explain it right then,
But around the same time there were reports of strange

(03:05):
serpents in the lake. There used to be some big
eels too, Some of them were a good six feet long,
and they sometimes make quite a splash in the water.
Another man told of hearing about the large eels and
the monster seen on the jeb Seg side of the lake.
Quote I've heard older folks around here tell about catching

(03:27):
eels up to six feet long or eight feet long,
as big as your fist. About three years ago, I
was with a party swimming about six or seven miles
up from Gemseg. We saw this thing break water about
sixty or seventy feet out and someone shouted, there's a monster.
We kind of got brave and paddled out in a boat.

(03:49):
That's when we got the scare of our lives. Whatever
it was, it was about ten feet long, and when
we approached it, it made a tremendous upheaval and went under.
Said anything about it till now because I thought people
would think I was crazy or something. End quote. There's
another man named John Waterberry, and this was his story. Quote.

(04:11):
I heard it was three big eels. They said one
had a head on it about a foot across. But
years ago in the Saint John River, it was some
kind of serpent that used to circle our canoe. We
called it apadonkin. It would keep its head above the
water and kept glaring at us with these big green eyes.
The head on it was as big as a water pill,

(04:33):
and what we could make out of its body look
something like a giant bass. A few years ago, we
were coming in from duck hunting and off Marshall's Island,
we saw this fish thrashing around. We could see its
tail and only about a foot of its body, so
we went over to get a better look, and we
saw its head down in the water three or four feet.

(04:55):
It was very big. We tried to catch him by
the tail, but it wouldn't budge. Then we tried to
break its hold on the bottom with a paddle, but
again we had no better luck, and we left completely
dumbfound as to what it was. Some thought that maybe
it was a giant hawk or hake. I don't know
how to pronounce that, but it was too long and
too slim. The hake is chiefly a seafish, similar to cod.

(05:20):
It seemed that those who hadn't directly seen the serpent
had heard stories about it. Another man's was quoted as saying,
I heard a man say it was an animal three
feet through, and someone else said it was a big snake,
and the forestry man had fired at it but didn't
get it. Another man's wife said, I've heard, I've just

(05:43):
heard just about everything about it. Someone said it was
all of four feet across and a good twenty five
or thirty feet long. That's all they're talking about down there, now,
you know. End quote. Another witness said he knew what
a sturgeon looked like, and this was not what was
seen in the local waters. Mars Hudland said, quote about
fifteen years ago they saw a creature of some kind

(06:06):
come out of the woods. They said it was a
good twenty five feet long and quite broad across. By
the time they got to it, the thing had disappeared
into the lake. They did claim to find a great
furrow in the land in the sand where it had
crawled along the shore end quote. More than one was
seen at Alex's pond. It was about ten feet long

(06:28):
and round the foot across. It seemed to have the
head and face of a seal or an otter. It
came within fifteen feet of the shore and traveled along
the shore away from us. The water in this area
the pond would be about twenty feet deep, and it's
rather swampy right there. End quote. Some said it was
strictly a water creature. Others had seen it on land.

(06:49):
What was it they saw? Were these oversized eel sturgeons?
Or what. And I think this is very interesting because
of the fact that their sightings along the shoreline, which
means this thing, whether it had feet or maybe some
type of webbed paw or whatever, I don't know how

(07:09):
to call that was actually leaving the water and going.
It sounded like it didn't go far from the water.
But you know, I've never heard that about, let's say,
for example, a log mess monster. So that's very interesting.
Now let's go. Now we're to Benson, Wisconsin, and it's

(07:31):
the same year, it's nineteen seventy, and there's a strange
creature seen by no less than fifteen persons. It was
described as being seven feet tall, ape like, weighing about
three hundred pounds, with white fur and pink eyes. Afterward,
fifty persons called the area after what was dubbed the
Benton Monster. It seemed this wasn't just assigning a bigfoot,

(07:54):
but an albino one. Now this is the uh, the
story that goes with it as far as eventually it
would go. First, it was known as the Benton Monster,
but then this became known as the Muddy Monster. I
think because the coloring on it. It was either grayish

(08:14):
or whitish, which is why some people thought is dis
an albino or in other words, it was much lighter
coloring than other bigfoot sidings. But anyway, now apparently this thing,
like some of these cryptids or Bigfoot or whatever, they're
seen sporadically through the years. But it's the summer of
seventy three, and this is near the Big Muddy River

(08:37):
on the outskirts of Murphy's Boro, and there's this siding
of a tall, white haired creature. This is seen by
the residents of the town. And until today this remained
an unsolved mystery. They've never found the plausible explanation. After
fifty years, the signing of a white haired mudcake creature
seen by residents of Murphy's Boro stirs the imagination, but

(09:00):
there are still no definitive answers as to what they saw.
The new story went beyond the small Illinois town and
was picked up by media across the country. There were
numerous reports, but the first one came in June twenty fifth.
Just before midnight. A couple who were not married to
each other were parked near the boat dock on the
edge of Riverside Park next to the wood suddenly they

(09:24):
heard a loud screaming and observed a large creature approximately
seven feet tall. Their creature appeared to have light colored
hair matted with mud. The creature appeared to be walking
on two legs and was proceeding toward their car. They
were so frightened they risk exposing their indiscretion and went
to the police station. Police responded and searched the area.

(09:45):
They found tracks in the mud that measured three to
four inches deep, ten to twelve inches long, and three
inches wide, and then they heard a loud, shrill scream
from a wooded area about one hundred feet away. The
officers quickly left the area, one of the officers dropping
his gun in the haste. The next night, a call
came in from the Westwood Hills subdivision where two two

(10:08):
majors are sitting on the back porch and they see
a tall, white haired, hairy creature in a field on
the edge of the woods. Officers responded, and while they're
on the scene, a neighbor told him his four year
old son had come in ten minutes earlier, saying he
had seen a large ghost in the backyard. The officers
went to a footpath that led through the bushes and

(10:30):
immediately smelled a stench and a slimy film on the branches.
The dog's tract to a barn on the side of
an abandoned farm, but once there, the animal refused to
go inside. It ran back outside when pushed inside. The
handler said his dog never had backed down from anything.
They didn't find anything inside. Cryptozoologist Lorn Coleman, who studied

(10:53):
their reports during the nineteen seventies, believed the animal was
a bigfoot, corresponded to size of the Northwest. However, the
muddy monster did not have distinguishing facial characteristics. They seemed
to be more aggressive though. By June twenty eighth, nineteen
seventy three, the area of Riverside Park was a bee
hype of cars as hundreds of curiosity seekers drove through

(11:16):
the area at night hoping to see the big muddy monster.
Braver souls even camped out overnight. There was an earlier
report placed on July twenty fifth, nineteen seventy two, by
Leroy Summers, who told Cairo police he saw a hairy,
white bipedal creature that measured about ten feet in height
he spotted by the levee at the Ohio River. In

(11:39):
the following summer days of nineteen seventy three, Murphrey'sboro police
were patrolling Riverside Park, but no reporteds no sightings were reported.
In the following days, large white animals were mistaken for
the Muddy Monster. This included a so called white bear
which was never found, and a cow in the field.
By October, the fishermen had seen a light, grayish bigfoot

(12:00):
that measured ten feet in height on a beach in Vancouver,
making some question if the Muddy Monster had relocated. The
following month, Julius S. Rodman, who once lived in the
area where the sidings took place but had since relocated
since he was an archaeologist of Pacific cultures, wrote the
following commentary quote, it is curious, on what may be

(12:24):
the final phase of Mancin's existence on this ravaged little planet,
that a spate of UFO sidings should occur, along with
sea serpents and gigantic humanoids. I won't pretend to have
any answers, but these phenomenal reports may be related. Most
likely to be related, in my opinion, or the various
giant primates which have been reported from the Himalayas and
northern California, as well as the Midwest and South within

(12:47):
the last century. A few years ago, the San Francisco
Territorial News ran a series of articles with photos of
the creature dubbed Bigfoot, a hairy humanoid from the nine
to from nine to ten feet tall which resides in
the wilds of Trinity County, a few hundred miles from
the city end. He sent three newspaper clippings, one dated

(13:10):
August seventh, eighteen eighty nine, which told of a farmer
who found an Olsi fight huge hand. Another one dated
January twenty eighth, nineteen oh two, told of how young
ice skaters in Idaho set an eight foot hair covered
monster seen while they were skating. Measurements taken showed the

(13:31):
tracks to measure twenty two inches long by seven broad,
with the imprint of only four toes. The stockmen reported
having seen similar tracks along the range west of the
Portneuf River. Another totd of a giant skeleton found in
nineteen oh eight on the outskirts of Los Angeles during
an archaeological drig. It was one inch under eight feet

(13:54):
in length. In June of twenty twenty three, down the
fifty year anniversary, at the corner of vteen and one,
twenty sevenths of Murphysboro, a statue of the Big Muddy
Monster was unveiled. The bronze recreation is true to life
and weighs eight hundred pounds on measures eight feet eight
inches in height. The company that created the statue used
the Murphysboro Police Reports description to come up with its

(14:17):
looks from a brfo side, all right, the Money Monster
was seen on these occasions. They made like a list.
July sixteenth, nineteen seventy two, a jogga reported seeing something
like the Big Muddy Monster near the Ohio River levee
at Cairo or Alexander County. Then a year later June

(14:38):
twenty six. From June twenty six to July of nineteen
seventy three, nine people reported seeing it in four separate
incidents in Murphysboro. Fast forward a year September second, nineteen
seventy four, three and of the youths reported seeing it
in the Beech Grove near the Wolf area near Wolf Lake.

(14:59):
This is an Union County, Okay sixth no like. About
four months later, January of nineteen seventy five, four truckers
traveling separately radioed in reports of seeing a bear like
creature along Illinois three near the Illinois one to forty
nine junction west of Murphysboro. Then about six months later,

(15:22):
July of nineteen seventy five, two Murphreysboro men reported something
they thought may have been the Big Muddy Monster near
Pond in the Harrison community north of Murphysboro. Then about
a year later, June of nineteen seventy six, three youths
said they saw something near the Westwood Hills subdivision, the

(15:43):
area of two previous sidings. Between July nineteen seventy two
and June nineteen seventy six, there were seven reports from
the area around Murphysboro, Cairo, and wolf Lake. Randy Creith
and its classumate Cheryl Ray were the teenage couple that
signed the Westwoodhills subdivision in nineteen seventy three. In nineteen

(16:03):
eighty five, Cheryl Ray, who was now Cheryl Wrath, gave
the following interview about the experience. Quote, Randy and I
were sitting in my parents breezeway when we heard something
in the woods. We both went down, but Randy was
walking a little bit ahead. Then he said come here,
and there it was. We stood looking there at it.
The thing I remember was the bulk of it, the shape,

(16:26):
the human form, and the stench of the river slime
it apparently had on it. It was about eight feet
tall and at least a stock is a football player.
We were within fifteen feet of it, close enough to
see the body. The texture of the fur, long and hairy,
like an English sheep dog. Its eyes reflected red from
the glow of a distant street light. It stood more

(16:47):
erect than innate, but didn't have human features. It was
real tall, hairy. I think it was white, but it
was dirty, matted, and had a real bad odor. It
was really rank, smelled anything like it. It seemed like
an eternity. We stood there and then it just turned
around and walked off into the woods. We could hear

(17:07):
it trampling through the woods endote. Not even two weeks later,
four carnival workers at Riverside Park said they twice saw
three hundred pound eight foot talk creature with light colored
hair approach the ponies. It seemed curious and not belligerent.
In August of nineteen eighty nine, there was an incident
reported at Red Lake Campground. Danetta Clayton was staying at

(17:31):
a campsite on the South Markham Campground for two weeks.
She was using a tent nearby to store odds and ends.
Danetta and her daughter Melissa were sleeping in a camping
trailer about thirty feet away from the tent when their
two collies started barking ferociously about three in the morning.
They believed the dogs were barking at other campers. It

(17:51):
was only after they awoke the next morning that they
found the destruction of the site and a cot had
been dragged about thirty feet into the woods. There was
the officiotor around what was left of the large tent,
which had cost three hundred dollars. Jerry Shoot, a ranger
and spokesman for the US Army Corps engineer, took samples
of blood, saliva, and teeth marks found on the canvas.

(18:12):
The samples were sent to a laboratory in Centralia. Shoot
theorized it could have been an injured or hungry animal.
Some wondered if this could be attributed to bears living
in southern Illinois. Bill Wilson, chief deputy of the Franklin
County Sheriff's Department, said the rumors of the Big Muddy
Monster had been around since the nineteen fifties. It was
suspected the creature lived in the bottom area of the

(18:35):
Big Muddy River, the river that feeds the lake. Since
the signing in nineteen seventy three, private groups offered different
amounts up to two point five million dollars for the
capture of the Muddy Monster. Needless to say, no one
has ever claimed the money. So and then you think,
did it move away, did it migrate, did it die?

(18:58):
Like he said, from the nineteen fifties, I have been
these different sidings. Now there's this is a story. This
story predates the one in Wisconsin. Remember this is even
though they said, oh, we've been seeing it since the
nineteen seventies, I mean since the nineteen fifties. Apparently the
slow stories though, came from the nineteen seventies. But this one,

(19:20):
this goes back to the nineteen sixty one and there's
this there's a man that's telling the story all right.
In nineteen sixty I was a fifteen year old summer
school student at Saint John's Military School and Delafield, Wisconsin.
I lived in one of about twenty cabins that were
organized in a semi circle in a forested area in

(19:42):
the twenty cabins lived other boys who were my age.
At the center of the semi circle, there was a
night lamp on a high pole and vision was excellent.
Another the light pole was a water fountain. The pole
and fountain area is where groups meetings took place. One night,
I don't remember the time, and perhaps one two or
three a m I woke to see a very large,

(20:04):
ape looking creature who was drinking out of the fountain.
The creature had to bend awkwardly to reach the fountain
because it was at his knee level. By observing the
awkward bend, was able to a certain that his or
her height must have been enormous. Instead of drinking, the
creature would spray the water out of his or her
mouth and into the air. Then he or she would

(20:25):
return for another gulp and spray again. Due to the
light out of very clear view. I was amazed, but
not yet frightened. After leaving the fountain, the creature took
long stripes and entered the first cabin. Here she stayed
inside for less than one second. It seemed that as
soon as the cabin doors shut behind him or her,
it instantly opened and left the cabin. I noticed that

(20:47):
the creature had to duck in order to enter the cabin.
Vision was not that great at the first cabin. The
doors were rudimentary cabin doors with a spring and no latch.
After leaving the first cabin, the creature continued to the second, third, fourth, etc. Cabin,
spending one second inside each one. I began to think
that this behavior was consistent with a counselor doing a

(21:09):
bed check, but I was really curious about the huge
size and hairiness. My cabin was about the twelfth cabin
as a creature. When cabin to cabin, my vision was
getting better and better, and I slowly began to feel frightened.
Keep in mind that vision was excellent at the fountain,
but when the creature entered the first cabin, I could
not see it very clearly. By the time the creature

(21:32):
was preparing it into the cabin next to mine, the
student inside the cabin let out a huge shout help. Truthfully,
I was getting ready to scream. Also. Upon hearing the scream,
the creature immediately sprinted with long stripes to the rear
of the cabins and disappeared into the forest. The creature
ran through brambles and briar that would be very difficult

(21:53):
for human to negotiate. As a creature approached the cabin
next to mine, I did get a very good look Bigfoot.
The boy who screamed was traumatized. A couple of days
after the incident, his father came to Delafield to take
him home. There you go, so see even the most
unexpected places. You know, it was an aggressive more than anything.

(22:18):
It sounds like it was curious. But I get this kid,
it's like it. You know, I don't want to find
out if it just wants to be curious or anything else.
Now let's shift gears, and you know, the nineteen seventies
were known for its unusual true crime. Now, this one
takes place not here in the United States, but across

(22:38):
the pond in France. The year is nineteen seventy six,
and there's a maniac stalking women in a town called
no gen Surgas. It's a small town north of Paris,
and his first victim was claimed in nineteen sixty nine.
Even though originally, like a lot of police departments, they

(23:03):
didn't realize that, in other words, that they had first
of all, the serial killer thing wasn't really used back then.
Plus they didn't not till later did they connect that
all these murders were the same perpetrator. So first one
takes place in nineteen sixty nine. Now, during the intervening year,
the killer had claimed eight victims and left them in
run down railway sidings and patches oblique waste ground around Nugee.

(23:28):
The residents of the drect Council flats were panicked. The
press had dubbed the murderer the killer in the Shadows.
Women had stopped walking in the town and children were
kept from the playground. Many people wanted to leave what
they called the cursed place. The popularation noticed the killings
took place when the wind was up and it was
pouring rain. But most noticeably and strange was a fact

(23:53):
they took place only on nights of the full moon.
Detectives from Paris came to the town and interviewed fear
fifteen thousand inhabitants of the town. Inspector Christian Jacob said
he was sure somebody knew who the killer was. He
said the perpetrator was an intelligent man who picked victims
that had no links between them. Their ages were from

(24:15):
twenty to forty nine, and they all came from the
same socioeconomic background. The police believe he was intelligent and meticulous.
He prepared and watched his victims. Because the crimes were
committed very quickly, no fingerprints were found the scene. It
was apparently he wiped off door knobs of the houses
he entered. The suspect that he was ordinary looking, which

(24:37):
is why he was able to blend perfectly into the
setting of the town, which only measured four square miles
and had a population of little over fifteen thousand, So
when they said they interviewed fifteen thousand, they basically interviewed
everybody in the town. Just beyond the railroad tracks, a
chemical plant smothered the town in smoke, leaving a residue

(24:58):
of gray and black eyes the egg box apartment buildings
and some brick houses. The perpetrator seemed to be familiar
with the rhythm of the community, such as when they
left to Paris and when they returned home at nightfall.
During the seven years the crimes were committed, they would
occur as a day's lengthened out of winter, and commuting

(25:20):
hours were during the daytime. In other words, the longer
the days, if they were if these people were commuting
during the daytime, which was spring summer, when the days
were longer, he stopped. He would only do it when
nightfall was early, so of course, you know, and which
he took advantage of the seasons. The authorities contacted police

(25:43):
departments in Western Europe to see if they had similar
crimes during the three years the crimes had paused, but
there were none that were a match. Police scoured army enlistmentless,
psychiatric hospital records and the movement of road building teams
in the area. Local employers turned over the personnel records
for review. There were so many police and notion that

(26:04):
petty thieves had disappeared in crimeate decreased significantly. In December
nineteen seventy six, Marcel Barbeau, thirty five, father of II,
was arrested in a suspicion of committing the crimes. A
rifle fell in his home which proved to have been
used during the murder of Julia Gonkalvez. He was charged only.
He was charged only with a man who was slaining

(26:26):
well out with his girlfriend. In other words, they and
we'll get into how they came up with him, all right.
They connect him through basically and you'll see. And they found,
in other words, a direct link between a rifle they
found in his home and one that was used on
one of the victims right now. In June of nineteen

(26:50):
eighty one, mit Iran, which is Francis first Socialist president.
He's opposed to capital punishment. So the timing on this
saves Marcel Barbou from a death sent Instead, he's given
a life sentence for murdering four women and a man
who were period of four years. There were other victims,
but I think that they used these four murders. Business

(27:11):
is the one that they had the best evidence on.
He was linked to three other murders, but the prosecution
did not have sufficient evidence. The jury made the decision
after nineteen hours. The death penalty was still in the
statute books, but it seemed that when one of the
jurors suffered an epileptic fit, to jury decided on life imprisonment.
And it seems to me like everybody was ready to

(27:32):
send this guide to I think the guillotine was still used.
I'm not sure in France for capital punishment, but one
of the jurors has an epileptic fit and they just say, Okay,
we'll go with the life imprisonment telling you. Marseille Barbeau
he was the oldest son born to Lucien Barbeau, who
worked as a steam locomotive conductor, and a mother, Micheline,

(27:56):
who worked in a textile factory. He had three brothers
and a sister. He hit school at a young age,
and by the time he was fourteen years old, he
worked as a riveter. He joined the army and was
mobilized in December nineteen sixty for the Algerian War to
work as a stretcher bearer. Upon his return, he went
back to factory work and practiced boxing in judo. He

(28:16):
tried to become a paratrooper or gendarme, but he failed
the test eight times since he suffered from vertigo. He
married Josian in nineteen sixty four and two years later
they had their first son, Patrice, and then Laurent in
nineteen seventy two. In nineteen sixty eight, his mother, Micheline,
who he loved very much, died from a painful bout
with breast cancer. She died in his arms. In nineteen

(28:40):
seventy one, a brother, Jean Louis Jean Louis died in
a road accident, and on February twelfth, nineteen seventy four,
another brother committed suicide by throwing himself under a train
under disturbing circumstances. Prior to his mother's death, he was
a petty thief who would steal an occasion weapons when
he drove his moped to work. The death of his

(29:01):
mother and later his brothers appeared to be the trigger
of his descent into violence. Something ariized that his mother's
double mastectomy before her death was tied into the sexual
way he treated his victim's body. The first victim was
in January of nineteen sixty nine, and her name was
Andre Lecron. She's preparing her husband's dinner. She gets shot

(29:22):
on the shoulder by twenty two caliber bullet comes in
through the window of the kitchen. All right, he didn't
kill her, all right, He just like shot at her,
hid her in the shoulder. But in other words, now,
the first murder was committed on January tenth, nineteen sixty nine.
This is within a couple of weeks. The woman's name

(29:44):
Francois Lecron, all right, and she was the wife of
a Saint Gobain engineer. They find her body in a
garbage strewn yard. Again, they're thinking this is an isolated incident.
Two weeks later, Teresa Adam, a forty nine year old widow,
was shot in the head and stabbed with a knife.

(30:07):
This happened that she exited her carn near home. Then
November nineteen sixty nine, almost a year goes by eleven months,
he enters the home of Suzanne Marianne, forty four and
her nineteen year old daughter Micheline. The house is six
hundred feet from Missus Lecron's house. He drives them through

(30:29):
the garden to a muddy ground that bordered the railway.
He separated them, tied up the mother before killing her
with a bullet to the temple. The girl survived and
told police to kill her. Was tall, well built, with
cat eyes. He was a young man wearing a fisherman's
cap and a scarf over his mouth. Then he killed
another woman in nineteen seventy. This was a couple of

(30:50):
months later. Perhaps a fear of having been seen by
witness stayed his hand for three years. It was during
those three years that the French This is afterwards because
at this point, again they don't realize that this is
just one person, but that three years that he doesn't
kill anybody. The French detective state send out notices to

(31:12):
surrounding areas, not only of France, but in other countries
to see if they've had other murders that they could compare,
because they're thinking, these two years, did he stop killing there?
But he was somewhere else killing but nothing ever came
back on that. Now Barbo, they realized, attacked his victims
close to the railways between nine and eleven PM, and

(31:34):
he would hit them with shovel, then stab them in
the heart or shoot them with his twenty two rifle.
The police could not fathom a motive. The woman was shot,
stripped half naked, but never raped. He also stole their handbag.
In February nineteen seventy three, a brunette died at his hands.
On the night of May nineteen seventy three, he murdered

(31:55):
a couple who weere we sat an abandoned cemetery. Van
height twenty three was found with a twenty two caliber
bullet in her head, and her companion, Eugene Stefan, he
was also killed. The location of this crime would eventually
become significant. Nineteen seventy three would be the year he
killed the most, three women and a man, one woman

(32:17):
in nineteen seventy four and then one woman in nineteen
seventy five. They think that Later on they talk about
where this guy, the man that was killed the only
man was because him and this woman are apparently having
some type of romantic twist. In other words, wrong place,
wrong time for the guy. He wasn't leaving any witnesses behind.

(32:38):
In other words, So it's January sixth, nineteen seventy six,
and he kills his ninth victim. Her name is Francois
jak jack Ubowski. She's twenty years old. She's a secretary
commuting to Paris and normally seventy commuters would be standing
on the platform waiting for the morning train to Harris.

(33:00):
He drags her to a garbage strewing yard behind the
railway station. This is between a carpentry shop and a
twelve room hotel, kills her. She's found partly stripped up
to her waist with a twenty two caliber bullet in
her head. She had been stabbed several times in her purse.
Restole okay, so this man seventy commuters are very close

(33:22):
by on the platform. He takes her to I guess
like a little yard or alleyware or what between a
carpentry shop and a twelve room hotel. So he knows
that there's every chance he could be, if not caught seen.
So at this point the police tell the press that
the only man who had been killed they believed was

(33:43):
due to him being a witness. The killer seemed to
follow a ritual of stripping the victims to the waist,
including their underclothing, and stealing one of their possessions, and
only one had been sexually assaulted, and they never say
which one of them was sexually assaulted, and the implications
are because their mood, that it might have been after

(34:06):
she was dead. Then in the middle of this, God knows,
this is lady called Madame Solenne. She's France's best known astrologist,
and she's telling everybody the killer is gonna get caught
after his thirteenth crime, which meant he had to go
through five more women. So everybody's must have been Remember
this town now has wigged out, nobody's going out, and

(34:27):
this very famous astrologist says he's got to go through
five more before he gets caught. They must have been like,
WHOA so fast? On December eleventh, This is before the
one that he kills in nineteen seventy six. December nineteen
seventy five, this is right before Francoisja Gubowska. Julia goes
out gone Calvez. She's twenty five, she shot stamped partially undressed.

(34:51):
Now of all of these, they start realizing, because I
guess of the women he chooses, But all his victims
were women he killed after watching them for a long
time on his days off, and while he was killing women.
It is after the fact, by the way, after they

(35:11):
identify who he is, he behaves like a good husband
and father. It was this normal behavior which allowed him
to elude police for so many years. An anonymous phone
call finally pointed the police in the right direction. He
was described as quote h thirty five one point eight
centimeters tall, married to a blonde with two children, no

(35:33):
driving license. He served in Algeria, had practiced boxing and
worked at the rivie end quote. I imagine that in
a town of fifteen thousand, he was not hard to find.
So not only was the twenty two caliber rifle connected
to Barbo. Another rifle was discovered in the basement who
was also using the crime, and this one had a silencer.
The key to the puzzle was the cemetery of NuGen

(35:56):
sur Wass, which was the center of the triangle area
where the murders took place. The double homicide of the
couple occurred in the parking lot of Langville Cemetery. Later
was found the murders were committed on Barbaro's days off.
In other words, apparently these people were parked in the cemetery.
And again, whether he had already picked this lady and

(36:20):
didn't expect her to be with somebody, or I think
it was that wrong place, wrong time, And you'll see
what I mean in a minute. Now. It's around this
time his marriage runs into trouble and he was discovered
by the gendarme when he was committing a burglary. He
was sentenced to one month in jail. His wife, Josiane,

(36:40):
she has a nervous breakdown since she tells police her
husband claimed that these items were given to him by
a comrade from the factory. After this release, she wanted divorce,
but for their son, she gave him another chance. So,
in other words, they're thinking this guy's just a burglar. Apparently,
it seems like they come to his house, they find

(37:02):
a bunch of stolen stuff and his wife is saying,
he's telling me he's got friends that are giving him
all his stuff. But again, they still have no idea
who they're dealing with. Now. What led to the discovery
of the rifle was when Barboa was arrested while trying
to steal objects of value from the graves of a
local cemetery. You know what I mean. The police immediately

(37:23):
saw the similarity between Barba and the composite picture of
the Nogen killer. He worked in a local chemical factory
and was a former French marine. In other words, they're
tying up all these clues. A psychological profile was made
of him. Like other French serial killers, he was married,
was a good father and husband, and was well liked
by everyone. It was noted the progression of his crimes,

(37:46):
especially when he stripped his victims and laid out the corpse.
The murder of Josette Routier marked a very clear turning
point in his habits. The more he killed the parent,
the sexual component was the then stab following the sexual manipulation.
What they mean by sexual manipulation is like I guess,
he posed the bodies, probably in a suggestive pose. Now

(38:10):
the experts side as a ritual and simple staging. No
rape ever occurred. By the wounds to the stomach and
chest as while stripping the victims testified a will to
hurt the women, a rape by proxy that was unsuccessful.
He many times he would take items that were valuable
to the victim, like photos. It was a type of
psychic rape since he took items that were intimate to them. However,

(38:33):
after an examination, they never found any serious dysfunction in
its behavior. However, another doctor said, quote, this is a morbid,
sadistic subject experiencing the irresistible need of a brutal and
criminal domination compensatory to its impotence end quote. Marcel Bobo
remains incarcerated in the Central Prison of Saint Moron in

(38:54):
Indrea and is employed as the prison librarian. Yes, as
of twenty twenty five, he's still alive. He's been there
for When they mean life in prison, they really do
mean life in prison, at least for this gentleman. And
again he got spared the death sentence because of Miterran

(39:15):
being elected and one person on the jury pool having
an epileptic seizure. And then what's really strange about this
is when he's examined by these different psychologists, they really
can't find anything wrong. It almost makes you think this

(39:38):
is some type of perfect psychopath. But then again you
see the problem that he has with his mother's death,
and like the death of two of his brothers is
like he goes in other words, he goes from being
a burglar or a thief into actually kill and then,

(40:00):
of course, in reality they never delve into it. We
really don't know he killed anybody before this time, but
basically he's captured or because he's living in his little
town of fifteen thousand outside of Paris, nobody knows. Maybe

(40:22):
when he was Analogius, what was this man doing so
And it's very interesting to see what motivates him apparently,
and by the way, all the time he was just
saying he was innocent, He's being shown all this proof that,
you know, the rifles, the firearms, they correspond to the

(40:45):
wounds that these women had in their head. But again,
it's what can I say. That's why this is title
strange stories from the seventies. I will be back soon
again with more strange stories from the seventies, because God
knows there's plenty of Until next time,

All Episodes

Strange Stories from the 70s | Volume 2 | Podcast

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Dateline NBC

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Strange Stories from the 70s | Volume 2 | Podcast